JumpChain CYOA Thread #1393: How Did My Life Come to This Edition

>Not taking this opportunity to name a thread ChumpChain.

>>52219186

You cannot escape your sins, Umpchain Anon.

Report and ignore, anons.

What are your current projects, Jumpers?

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Jump # 13 Lunar Legend Tsukihime
Age: 15
Gender: Female
Background: Ordinary High School Student (0)
Perks:
*Model Student (0)
*Tohno Gland (150, Discount) to fit the bard theme
*Perfectly ordinary person over here (300, Discount)
*Artificer (600)
*Magic Circuits (0)
*No Sell (400)
Companions
* Student GET x 3 (150)
*Arcueid (after jump) (0)
Drawbacks:
*Tohno-San (+400) the lengths I’ll go to not to break up a canon couple…
*Stabolizer (+200)
*My word is my bond (+100)
*Minor (+100)


Companions

Abraham Van Hellsing
Background: Ordinary High School Student
Perks:
*Model Student
*Instinct
*Magic Circuits
*Keys of Providence (So this seems to work differently that its description in the jump. I’ll just go by the jump description)

Akitsu
Background: Ordinary High School Student
Perks:
*Model Student
*Artificer

Adam Jenson
Background: Ordinary High School Student
Perks:
*model Student
*Instinct
*No Sell
*Magic circuits

Journal Entry # 3645
Wow… I met Arcueid today. Even though the look on her face was so terrifying; it took all my strength not to squee at seeing her. No one likes a fan girl. It’s funny I should have been afraid she was very pissed and likely to murder me if I handled this wrong but I ran because I was afraid I would say something stupid if I didn’t.

Thankfully I had more managed to regain my composure by the time she caught me. Damn she is quick. She was surprised I was more happy than afraid of her. I explained I was happy she was alive. I apologized for killing her. She accepted my apology but then we were attacked by Nero’s beasts and had to run.

(to be continued)

>>52219186
Presumably either migrated from CYOAG, Saw it in the Catalog and thought it looked interesting, or started on another site and came to the source.
>>52219210
Stacking as many iterations and variations of The Mystic Eyes of Death Perception as possible.

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>>52219210
Currently working on a way to mass produce an army of Proto-Amazons. I've got the knowledge to make them via the Inca Science item from Kamen Rider Showa Part 1, so right now I'm trying to find a suitable base, so I can start cloning an army of them. I'm currently thinking Reese from Person of Interest, but I'm looking at other possibilities.

>>52219210
At the moment, becoming as immortal as possible.

>>52219210

Cultivating a weapon from a timid yet frightening seed into a mighty tree, spear, thing. Analogy broke down there, but I'm trying to nourish my Sacred Spear from Seven Deadly Sins.

>>52219210
Currently I'm trying to figure out how to stuff a planet-sized self-expanding dungeon into something like a micro-verse battery.

Got the basic perks i need down but i'm expanding the idea as i come across perks or items that would have good synergy.

>>52219242
Journal Entry # 3647

It probably wasn’t the best Idea but I laid all of my cards on the table. It was a bit harder when I didn’t have access to most of my abilities but she saw my warehouse and some of the items I have collected. She seems even more confused. I was able to use some potions of healing to help mend her body though she is still weakened…. Still she was glad to have the help patching herself up.

I introduced her to my companions. She seems cool with Adam and the professor but there seems to be some tension with Akitsu. The nearer Akitsu is to me the unhappier she seemed.

Sadly I think Akitsu actually likes her but is just being protective of me. After all Arcueid did mention she had intended to use me as a meat shield or kill me. Thankfully we got a plan hammered out somehow amidst the chaos.

Journal Entry # 3649
Wow, the plan worked beautifully; Arcueid served as a distraction for Nero while Adam moved in and protected her. Then Akitsu froze him and his animals then Van Hellsing and I unloaded with Holy magic and Weapons of mass destruction respectively until they were smoldering ash. I think we got all of Nero but I can’t be sure with a creature like him. He splits in to many parts and all of them are him.

Sadly there is still tension between Akitsu and Arcuied; mostly on Arcueid’s part. I don’t think she likes Akitsu for some reason.

Journal entry # 3651

I hurt so bad, so I met SHIKI tonight. The bastard got me good. It cost me an arm… sort of. If it hadn’t been for the timely intervention of Ciel and Adam it would have been more than that. Right now Ciel used something to make my body forget the loss of it’s arm so it will stay attached.
This is the angriest I think I have seen Akitsu, She wanted to obliterate the school. Then arcuied found out he was there. then they both almost went off half-cocked. I convinced them both we weren't certain. Now they are bonding over plans to murder SHIKI.
(cont.)

>>52219293
Journal Entry # 3652
So I think I have officially made Arcueid an otaku. She insisted on staying here while I recovered. Akiha is furious but they let her in on some stuff and she reluctantly agreed if she got to join in on the fun when the time came.

I am still under bed rest orders and get yelled at if I even think about getting up so not much to do but watch TV. Apparently Arc never really saw TV she has a fondness for Sailor moon though she apparently found Fate/Zero very interesting. She has been very interested in my dvd collection after that. I am glad I burned my DVD of a certain anime that doesn’t exist. Still I am glad I think we are actually becoming friends.

Journal Entry # 3654
Well… holy shit… umm Roa is dead, half the school is gone… They went a bit overboard with the whole killing him thing. I kind of feel bad now about blackmailing ceil to be a part of this… she is the one who is going to have to clean up this mess.

Also things almost came to a head between Arcueid and Akitsu. Thankfully it turns out sort of worked out. It turns out Arcueid likes me and whatever she was prepared to do was kind of shot down by Akitsu
Being ok with Polygamy and explaining that’s how her race worked. I like Arcueid I won’t deny that. She seems sincere so I am giving it a chance. She even has been given permission to come along with me on my journey.

>>52219210
The upgrading of my companions into truly bullshit level characters.

They'll need it, because I'm planning on helping the Silver Millennium survive in the far future.

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Alright. So. Good news and bad news.

Bad news: Jump is incredibly huge and is a point-vampire even by my standards. Might not be bothering with an item section, and giving Holy Swords a mini-section after Gears, which will get a discount for the Heaven faction. Both of these are most of the 'items' in-universe, anyhow.

No, the one with the angels, not me.

Good news: This means the jump's completion isn't far off. Next is companions and then there's drawbacks and fluff. Afterwards it will be jumpable, and more OC options will be added at some point.

Then I'll get back to work on Final Fantasy and TIME TRAINS.

>>52219210
Giant robots. That's pretty much always my project, making giant robots.

>>52219315
People who call their own jumps cp vampires come off as incredibly arrogant.

>>52219315
Sounds awesome, Heavens. I look forward to seeing what you do with companions, should be fun. And you say soon after that we'll get to go on a time tripping ride? You spoil me.

>>52219315
Hey Heavens, what's the drawback cap looking like? Because even now, I'm probably going to end up needing 1600 extra cp, at the least. Probably more like 1900.

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Alright lads and ladies, here's the Ben-To jump I've been working on. Please throw constructive criticism at me, as well as questions. It's still a work in progress for now, as I need to iron some things out, but I hope at least some of you like it.

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/jc/, have you ever thought about the possibility of your current self being nothing more than background memories waiting to be drowned into the sea of consciousness and identities that is a jumper as they reincarnate?

Even worse: the jumper is your polar opposite, and your personality and morals are only the result of them taking a cheap 100cp drawback.

>>52219324
...you have read that beast right?

If it's a duck, then call it a duck.

>>52219315
Excellent.

Soon I will have another reason why Rin will want to strangle me.

By the way, what happened to the idea of custom-making your SGs? I mean, I could probably help Azazel make Artificial SGs better...actually, you know what? That's exactly what I will do.

MAGIC!/SCIENCE! Bro-time dead ahead!

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>>52219324
Well, you're not wrong. But counting Faction and Background, perks are 1/1/1/2/2/2/4/4/4/6/6/6, and when factoring companions, Sacred Gear, and the Races, possible capstone booster...yeah, this ended up pretty expensive.
>>52219329
Glad to be of service!
>>52219351
Tentatively planning for a +1000 CP drawback limit.

>>52219388
I'd honestly be fine with that.

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>>52219315

Bro you can always add a cp stipend like what with Red did in warframe

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>>52219402
>+1000 CP drawback limit
Oh, this is going to be painful...

>>52219388
Yes. I'm more worried for what would happen to my family based on some of the shit I hear you people suggest.

>>52219210

Currently attempting to displace/replace SHIELD as the main defenders of mankind or at least support network for such people, main plan is to infiltrate and dig my hooks into promising startup programs for things such as space exploration and providing basic designs from Macross and my gravitytech from Gravity Rush

Once that's a thing, start ensuring Hydra's silly asses aren't involved with an extreme prejudice before going to the moon and starting my work there

After that, it's a lot of using the Hammer Drones as pure labor to establish a fleet. Maybe use my and my waifu's veritechs as the basis for construction of effective anti-crazy alien and inhuman/HYDRA weaponry.

Mostly it's just arming humanity in a way that SHIELD failed to do for a multitude of reasons

>>52219210

1. Fire Emblem Holy Grail War

Planning on accomplishing this by somehow using Second Magic to access possible Fire Emblem worlds (Using Fire Emblem video games to help, somehow. hey. it's currently in beta for this moment) + Magic Filtering Crystal Tech from Hero BBS (I do have an established system for how it works, btw, not pulling it out of my ass) for wish granting until I can get the knockoff Silver Crystal from Sailor Moon + Gamer's Barrier to make sure no innocents get harmed + create some form of the Throne of Heroes for Fire Emblem worlds for the souls to return to in case they get killed

I am pretty sure I cocked something up there or it has some flaws. Also I'm not nearly as powerful enough to do this...yet.

>>52219380
Reading now.

Could someone help me establish some context in regards to Servants? EX Rank is supposed to be 500 times the normal human maximum. The supplement also says that Rin is who we should take as an example of the human maximum in regards to Mana. As someone who's never read, played or watched Fate, how much mana does she have?

>>52219380
Could you bold the categories and perk/item names? It's a lot easier to read that way.

>>52219200
>>52219203
What. How is that even relevant?

>>52219398
The modification table was starting to look more and more like a GURPS book in my head, or a fanfic writer's attempt at emulating Mage. It's not helped by how schizophrenic even the rank-and-file Sacred Gears are in terms of abilities and scope. So I opted for a list of canons with the possibility of later OC options.
>>52219411
Already have. Humans get +300 CP for Gears/Holy Swords to represent the fact they're usually born with Sacred Gears in the first place. This also means they can be Reincarnated Devils or Angels and keep the benefits of both races, though this restricts your choice of Factions.

>>52219445
Knew I forgot something involving that. I'll have a v0.2 here in a bit.

>>52219388
God, I wish. I hate myself, knowing that I'm just a momentary shell designed to give some background to a better being's adventure would be delightful.

>>52219449

Same person made another thread before this one that was missing the "J", quickly deleted it, made one with the right name. We were poking fun.

>>52219443

I believe the Magic Circuits option in the Jump mentions Rin's loadout, 20 High Quality Magic Circuits iirc?

>>52219478
>I believe the Magic Circuits option in the Jump mentions Rin's loadout, 20 High Quality Magic Circuits iirc?
So it does. But that still doesn't give me context. I was more looking for example feats of her spellcasting. What can you do with twenty magic circuits?

>>52219430
2. Project Redemption Evil Village In Vally Eden, or "Project REVIVE" (I needed an acronym for my project somehow, please don't hurt me, I know it's not that good)

Basically, I am going to take the souls of the villains I took and put in the gems and made them sleep forever and then upload them into a virtual simulation of a nice village in a place, probably a tropical island like in SDR2 or a nice calm peaceful forest village using the World Seed from SAO. There, they are going to cooperate with each other to live in the village, until they can behave and calm down. I'm gonna have a few AI buddies infiltrate them and be a part of them, making sure they don't act out or kill anyone.

Now, preventing them from trying to break out, I've got to figure that out.

>>52219508
20 is average for a mage, so you can do everything an average mage can.

>>52219478
Rin has 100, I think?

>>52219530
Okay, what can an average mage do in Fate?

>>52219508
She has 40 main circuits and 30 sub-circuits I'm pretty they don't say what difference that makes with like 30 extra from her Magic Crest.

As for what that actually gets you...

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2iydmp/respect_rin_tohsaka_fatestay_night/

Forgive me for >reddit but it's the best I can do for you.

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Ben-To v0.2 PDF. Hope the general bolding helps.

>>52219508
Hundred circuits actually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5sqNVgGldE

Rin doesn't do much but here's one of her favourite spammable spells, Gandr, in action. For the most part she charges jewels with magic so it's hard to get a read on what she can do on her own with the rest of her fights.

>>52219398
>...you have read that beast right?
>If it's a duck, then call it a duck.
Everything is relative.

>>52219508
Rin can fire curses that hit like bullets. Besides that, she can reinforce herself to massively superhuman levels, enough to tangle with low-tier Servants. Unfortunately, she specializes in a magic system that requires external foci and reagents, so examples of her own capabilties are limited.

>>52219388
Good because I hate living in this world forever and I'm useless anyways, so being a shell for a jumper is something I can look forward to.

But that's not how it works in my chain, so.

>>52219547
No, it's fine, I was looking for her on r/respectthreads myself, couldn't find her. Thank you.

>>52219553
>>52219560
These are also very helpful, thank you anons as well.

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>>52219388
It won't be me that drowns.

They should have checked the wording of that drawback more carefully.

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>>52219423
>reverse!Jumper-you just starts turning everyone you knew into flesh abominations
>He only does this because he can't kill anyone in this jump and tes his memories specifically

>>52219646
>Being so dense that you would resist getting assimilated
Is that you, Timmy?

>>52219388
>Jumper is actually a good person that helps others instead of devouring them

I can live with that

91. Franken Fran
Location: Madaraki Mansion
Age: 21, Origin: Doctor
Perks: Commencing Operation (Cosmetics, Transplant, Trauma, Disease, Mental), Make Me A Better Man, Meatgrinder Medicine, I Can Still Save Him, Biology As A Guideline
Items: The Spare Room, Surgical Tools
Drawbacks: Jumpers Gone Wild

I came here because I was the man who had to clean up every time some weird bullshit comes rolling off this mountain and into town. The amount of these things that clearly used to be human and needed to be put down warranted some investigation. I had heard of the Madarakis and their "miracles", but all I ever saw from them were well-made disasters. Fran invited me into her house just before I awoke as a jumper, and I nearly ran out of the place immediately.

I probably should've with all the bullshit they put me through and Fran's weird inability to grasp actual empathy. Quality of life was never a consideration for her so much as her own interest in doing weird shit. It took all of a few months of me for me to grow bored of the whole monster-making cycle she was on and go back to my old job fixing her mistakes. I have to actively work on recreating and modifying nanite swarms to do it, take advantage of mind-upload/separation using tech from Generic Virtual World, and at the end of the day I still feel like a child competing in a triathalon against a professional. In the end, I have better tools from my time jumping, so it gets done, but to go back to the triathalon analogy it's like having a motorcycle you have to abandon for the swimming portion.

My companions also tracked down every copy of that porno my origin was in, but a couple of my companions put it up for sale in the Archipelago. So, now I have to live with that forever. Why do I trust these people?

>>52219388
If that were the case, then good. However, knowing my luck I'll be the main personality and have to deal with being a jumper from partway through a chain.

>>52219380
Better lunch than a bologna sandwich at least.

>>52219388
I wish.

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Anon who's working on Spore here.

If it's not too much trouble, could you all please post your sort of 'wishlists' for Spore? I'm trying to plan out the overall structure of everything right now, so it would be most helpful to know:

>The specific gameplay components that you want to be rendered as perks/other options (part gathering, complexity, consequence traits, etc).
>Anything related to meta-customization- that is, if there's anything you'd like to have as an import option, etc.

And also anything else you were thinking about that I might've missed. Those are the big two, though.

>>52219974
Something for guiding species down the same evolutionary line as in the game. So raising something from a cellular level to being capable of forming civilisations, or at least getting that ball rolling.

>>52219974
I'd like an option to have all the creatures on your planet look like they could have come from the same biosphere. You know what I mean, right? How in the game they'd be randomly selected from the database, so nothing looked like it evolved on the same planet. No common features, just a thousand acts of whimsical creation. I'd like to be able to avoid that, optionally. Let people who want that have it, let people who want to play this more as a speculative evolution simulator do their thing.

>>52219974
Staff of life either costing a fuckton or as some kind of special reward for a scenario or big drawback. Terraforming stuff in general. Overall the entire space age is what excites me.

>>52219974
I'd like the option to have your species show up in other jumps, like how the Civilization jump does it. Not a huge thing, just there as a background detail that you can seek out if you want to.

>>52219974
I assume that the jump will take longer than 10 years to complete, right?

>>52219993
Do you specifically want it as a perk, or would something like the Monolith uplifter from Space Stage work for you? I'm sure I could find a way to fit an upgraded version of what the Monolith does in as a perk if need be.

>>52220005
That's actually the default in the plan. It's more or less based more on what Spore was promised to be by Maxis instead of what we ended up getting. Been spending a lot of time going over the cut features page recently.

>>52220006
Sure thing, anon.

>>52220028
Perhaps something where they don't appear unless you specifically seek them out? So if you went looking for them, you'd happen upon an island or whatever appropriate environment where a small sample of your original biosphere is living?

>>52220109
>Perhaps something where they don't appear unless you specifically seek them out? So if you went looking for them, you'd happen upon an island or whatever appropriate environment where a small sample of your original biosphere is living?
Yeah, that's along the lines of what I was thinking. Though them being off on another planet rather than an island. Just a single isolated colony that no one in canon has interacted with, that you can go to if you really want.

Ok done some changes and it's still a WIP but here is my Tron System Jump.
Feel free to add suggestions or comments

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rg_ebCDDrdFhHW-y5PtYWRCJMXrF3i1fSl9Mmm8FTn0/edit?usp=sharing

>>52220109
>That's actually the default in the plan. It's more or less based more on what Spore was promised to be by Maxis instead of what we ended up getting.
That's awesome, then. Rock on, Spore Anon.

>>52220109
Something like the Monolith uplifter should be fine, though a perk would be great.

>>52220093
Yeah. My current idea for it is... a bit weird. Have you ever played Dungeon Keeper? I'm thinking of having it work like possession in that. The current thought is to have it play something like regular Spore by default, with you existing as a sort of managing presence/spirit/thing I haven't figured out yet. Individual creatures of your species will do whatever, and you'll have the option to more or less quickly speed up along the timeline.

Once you're at the Creature Stage, however, you'll have the option to take control (maybe choosing to incarnate for a creature's lifetime?) of a individual to interact with the jump like normal. That way, people can have the full experience without having several million years of NOTHING happen.

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>>52219210
Bashing my head against a major update to my jump. Slow going, but I'm getting there. Here's a WIP of the changes.

Hey Val, does time traveling with the Second Magic have the same consequences as the Fifth?

>>52220109
>It's more or less based more on what Spore was promised to be by Maxis instead of what we ended up getting.
How about adding a +100-200 drawback that makes it into how the game was?

>>52220172
Is it wrong that I kind of want to extend the Creature Stage as long as possible? I love SpecEvo stuff, I want to play around guiding evolution for millions of years.

Oh, that actually gives me an idea for something that could be cool: One of my favorite SpecEvo projects is Serina, a series about a world that was seeded with a very limited selection of Earth life and left to speciate and evolve into all sorts of weird things to fill the emptiness. The name comes from the taxonomic name of the common canary, which is the only terrestrial vertebrate included in the terraforming package. Could we have something like that? An option to skip the Cell Stage and start the Creature Stage with an ecosystem based on a set of imported mundane plants and animals of our choosing. Then we could play around evolving them into exotic life forms that bear only a dim resemblance to their ancestors.

>>52220189
Change list?

>>52220273
Bottom of the doc.

>>52220233
Ah, see- that's actually what the Cell Stage /is/. What is there to put in the Cell Stage, reasonably speaking? It's going to serve as an introduction to the jump mechanics, and also helping you build the world you start out in at the Creature Stage.

You build the planet - you can have it farther or closer to the sun, even change the type of star you're orbiting and also choose the foundations of your ecosystem. You can get points for lowering the T-score of the planet, which limits the amount of options you can choose to customize the ecosystem in addition to making life generally harder on the planet.

And if you want to slow down the management time acceleration to 0, you can. Creature Stage doesn't end until you say so, just like in the games.

>>52220212
>drawback that makes it into how the game was
Dear god, anon. I'm not cruel. We'll see.

>>52220309
>all these awesome ecosystem customization options
Fuck yes, Spore Anon, you are the BEST. Oh, this is going to be a fun jump.

>>52219974
Aquatic section to represent the options and gameplay cut from the watered-down release version.

>>52220134
Will we meet Sora here?

>>52220309
>>52219974
>Our own ship for Space Stage.
>The Gravity Wave superweapon.
>Cell alt.form.
>The ability to have the civilization and space stages play out in real time.
>Flora and fauna import?
>Mineral/resource import?

>>52219974
Gimme all the spice colors (mint especially) plus terraforming tech plus a perk that involves singing and dancing when befriending people (from the beast/tribe stages for social playthroughs) and I'll be a happy moth :3

>>52219974
The terraforming stuff, including drawing with them and leaving shapes all over the place. Also that thing you get for getting the center but with a recharge mechanic.

>>52220467
>Flora and fauna import?
>Mineral/resource import?
Both are gonna be in the creature stage import section since that's when you actually see them.

>Cell alt form
...Um. I guess that could be a thing?

>Real time
See >>52220172

>Gravity Wave superweapon
All superweapons are gonna be in there, don't worry.

>>52220451
My thought was to allow it by basically not disallowing it. The options I'm gonna offer are going to be all neutral in terms of land/water, so if you want to stay in the water... then you can just choose to, and it'll change nothing.

Unless people want specific advantages/disadvantages to being in water?

>>52220479
>singing and dancing when befriending people
Perhaps with spontaneous confetti at random, even.

>>52220491
The Staff of Life? Would people prefer it to be a reward for reaching the core in jump, or would it be better to purchase it?

>>52220555
>Staff of Life
I think the canon version should just be there as usual, you don't need to say anything about it, but a purchasable one for those who want a recharging one, or one that they don't need to fight the Gek to reach could be cool.

On the perk front, things to do the sort of things you can in the game could be cool, for instance a cheap perk could let you set large trends in fashion, not necessarily specific pieces of clothing like in the game, but saying 'it's cool to wear leaves' or scarves or that sort of broad spectrum fashion influence.

I second >>52220479 with all the spice, and perhaps selling a spice geyser, or the ability to find them in other settings could be cool too.

Something involving the giants wouldn't go astray. They were always one of my favorite parts of the game and I was sad they were so irrelevant.

Your ideas sound really cool. I look forward to seeing the end result!

>>52215258
Sorry about not answering anon, I was sleeping.

Here's the current version of the EVE Online jump. I was thinking about replacing/complementing the item section with a ship and gear table.
And yes, a Titan for 1000 CP is already tentatively planned.

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>>52220791
And here's the actual PDF because Captcha is being a dick.

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>>52219210
as a jumpmaker PDF related.
i've gotten started on drawbacks, once I get a couple more of those. I just have to convert the ideas into actual descriptions

as the jumper
recent projects include

1.A miniaturized ACU so that I can build on smaller scales

2.A speaker that can match the hellstar guitar in volume. So that it doesn't drown out my singing

3.seeing what the Mutualist Omnium can churn out .

4. Adapting the eight trigrams hexagon staff tyle for use with Dual wielding

5.expanding my Golden Apple of immortality. Orchard into the black Arcology i.e. My disgaia netherworld so that My rapidly expanding population can Enjoy the benefits of Magical maximized life extension.


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>>52220804
Oh goody I have quite a lust for space operas and have already bent infinity and mass effect over my knee ala the emperor.

also, maybe make the titan or indeed any and all ships cheaper but come with nothing on it, or offer various packages with different loadouts from nothing to fully loaded

>>52220804
oh also, all ships are not made equal. The missile titan is generally considered the weakest and the charon has the biggest cargo hold out of all its contemporaries to name two examples.

don't worry so much about the items list being bloated, It's EVE bloated is the name of the game.

>>52221410
Hmm, that's not a bad idea, making all ships come empty and offer equipment packages.

>>52221448
I'm mostly going to offer tiers of ships with a slight surcharge if you take a ship that isn't from your faction.

Also for the items, it's more the fact that I'm having trouble imagining much stuff that couldn't be stuffed inside a ship/equipment table.

>>52221548
Now that I thing about it, making a general item table with no discounts and making a ship customization table with discounts depending on factions/background is how I'm most likely going to do it.

>>52221548
then go with the table, tables are neat and orderly and don't make my brain cry.

>>52221587
Yeah, at least I'm going to try.

>>52221581
I would personally hugely appreciate a cheaper unloaded option for titans. I don't need the weapons, weapons and the ability to produce weapons is something I have in spades. I cannot however establish a shipyard. and then theres the whole thing of 'would a non purchased ship even accompany through jumps' and it just feels more honest to say no. I can field millions of hands and plenty of materials to outfit a basic chassis, and the bigger the better.

It's about time I got a middle ground between the shard and the light of terra anyway.

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Since we are talking space ships what is so amazing about the sajuuk from homeworld that it is priced so high?

Pic unrelated. Mostly.

>>52221609
The unloaded, stripped-bare-of-anything version is going to be the default state (even for Titans though they will have a slight surcharge for their equipment like the Doomsday weapon), with equipment packages being able to be bought for certain amounts of CP.
Also only purchased ships will accompany you through jumps, though they will still keep their loadout, modifications and interior equipment (so if you manage to reasonably stuff a non-CP-purchased ship inside a CP-purchased ship, it will still come with you).

>>52221734
you mean the plans for the city-sized ship massively more advanced than anything else in the setting that comes with a free ship and unlocks the secrets of forerunner technology? Yeah, it's fairly priced.

>>52221744
can't wait

>>52221767
Bancho of all people you should not be sarcastic, I am seriously asking about what makes it so impressive. I dont know the setting and I dont know what this sajuuk can do, and the fact that you are buying plans and not a ship is something that frankly I see as more labor intensive than the other options and I dont know what it has or can do hence why I am asking.

>>52221795
>Bancho of all people you should not be sarcastic, I am seriously asking about what makes it so impressive. I dont know the setting and I dont know what this sajuuk can do, and the fact that you are buying plans and not a ship is something that frankly I see as more labor intensive than the other options and I dont know what it has or can do hence why I am asking.


A.i thought you were being sarcastic since it says so right in the description

B.I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. The Internet does not carry tone here are the reasons

1.plans for Forerunner technology power cores that are not normally able to be reproduced in the setting


2. if I'm reading it right It comes with a dreadnought class to help you build it

3.forerunner weaponry plans which again cannot be reproduced in setting

4.seriously, it unlocksan entirely new tech tree better than anything else in the setting get a LoT ACU before hand and curb stomp everyone

>>52220189

Looking good.

I would say though, that with including the mythic artefacts, that adding a basic un-armoured exoskeleton you can throw over a suit might be warranted - and it gives something for the tech-perk guy to trick out.

Some of the non-augmenting artefacts could be neat - like an Empty (or even... a Full Empty).

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>>52219210
Doing some MCU thinking/writing, what with how my character's going from a not-Black Widow to a not-War Machine.

>>52220189
>price drops
>warehouse add-ons
>bonus missions
>Artifact Field
All of my yes pls, and I don't even know what the Artifact Field does exactly.

>drawback limit reduced
Hm. My build loses out here but oh well.

It's my opinion that a lot of the artifacts are a bit over-priced. I'd drop them to 100cp per tier.

>>52221863
A good suggestion. I'll add it into the next version. The non-augment artifacts were something I was considering, but felt not too many people would want to take. Might come up with something for them, though.

>>52221979
Noted. I figured they were over-priced but didn't want to second guess myself and make them dirt cheap. Also, if it's your budget you're worried about, you might want to look a little closer at the blank areas.

>>52220189
Does the comment about the So-So artifact mean you eventually end up with it reproducing itself like some kind of amoeba?

Anons, question!

When a jump drawback removes your powers, do you also assume it removes the Warehouse?

>>52222160
>leave a So-So in your vehicle during a jump
>forget about it
>next jump decide to go for a drive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbLTiQtRSkQ

>>52222209
I don't.

>>52222160
Under the right conditions, the artifact has the ability to reproduce infinitely, yes. What said conditions are or how fast they divide is unknown, but I would hazard a guess that it's fairly slow and can't be used as a power source while dividing.

>>52222209
i took the portal option so warehouse access is one of my powers.

>>52222226
I approve of this headcanon.

>>52222209
I generally don't assume so, unless it is explicitly stated.

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>>52222054
Goddamnit...no thanks. I'll take the reduced cap, because I lean heavily on Roadside Picnic/Stalker RPG for setting fluff instead of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and riding a death truck into Zone: Canada is a fast way to a bad end even with out of jump knowledge.

>>52222240
Literally the only problem with that option.

>>52222209
Generally, yes. Most 'power removal' options are obviously intended to cut off what you had before the current jump, thus including warehouse and items. Certain specific ones, such as the one in Fate Stay, are specific that it only affects powers in some way, but most of them are explicitly or obviously intended to cut off everything you had prior to the current jump.

TLDR- depends on the drawback's wording

>>52222209
Yeah, it would be kind of odd if even when all your powers are sealed away you grab your ultimate Power Armor +100 and are still the most powerful being around anyway. I pretty sure that that's definite breaking the spirit of the drawback.

>>52222251
True. To be fair, you get a roadside picnic Wishgranter wish if you take the death truck and find the big golden goose egg.

>>52222273
aren't those things Traps? i'm only aware of the game endings but those seem like traps.

>>52222283
The one in the game certainly is, but if the jump says it's a real wish, then a real wish it is.

>>52222283
The video game Wishgranter, sure. That thing is one big bad end no matter how you approach it. The roadside picnic version grants you your deepest, most secretive wish no matter what you actually ask for. The story given is a stalker led his brother to his death so he could make a wish for money. The brother regretted his choice and asked the Wishgranter to bring back his brother. He got a great big pile of money instead and the stalker committed suicide shortly thereafter because of his greed.

Did I mention that stalker was based off a Russian novel?

>>52222306
And you're offering this in jump? Maybe rethink that.

>>52222306
okay, cool i guess? is this going to be one of the wait till post spark things?

>>52220189
Can the Mutation perk be bought more than once?

Does the Dark Road drawback suppress out-of-jump powers/items until you get away from the building / to the stash?

>>52220197
It doesn't.

>>52222316
It's the reward for going through the Zone with no outside powers, gear and as many negatives as you want to stack. Finding and getting to the Wishgranter is near Herculean in itself normally, so the reward should be appropriate. If we wanted to go for accuracy, you'd be required to take The Meat Grinder for no additional points.

As it stands The wish will probably be treated like every other wish you can acquire in JC: redeem after spark.

>>52220197
It would not because with the Second Magic your not actually time traveling your just going to a separate dimension which is higher or lower in whatever Nasuverse has as a time stream.

Jump #273: Showa Kamen Rider, Part 1
>The Lovers: A decision calling for emotional control and faithfulness to spiritual values.
No, we aren't talking Kamen Rider slash, we're talking JUSTICE!
>Age: 21
>Location: Japan, 1971
>Identity: Shocker Rider (-100)
>Badass Biker (800)
I don't want to take any risks
>Olympian (Free, Rider)
While I might already meet the qualifications, I'm not going to say no to a little extra help.
>Could It Be G̶o̶l̶g̶o̶m̶ Shocker? (Free, Rider)
Of course. It's always Shocker.
>I'll Knock Some Sense Into You! (700, Rider)
Literally knocking sense into someone. The only way this could be better is if I could somehow impart knowledge by smacking someone upside the head.
>Even If There Is No God Or Buddha... (500, Rider)
This is a world where it is important to be able to inspire people. It's amazing how much being a hero can help people, too - not even in doing something, but by people knowing that you're out there at all.
>Cross Of Fire (200, Rider)
With all the things that seem to happen, here and in other places... being able to withstand corrupting forces and use them for justice is important.
>Rider Synchro (100)
Well, to be fair, what I have IS a belt as described here, just not a Kamen Rider belt. Still useful, no?
>Kamen Rider Blu-Ray Set (50)
Never hurts to have a hand up on the future. Sadly, no lottery numbers here.
>New Cyclone (0, Rider)
Say. That's a nice bike.

So the answer to the first Kamen Rider, who broke out of the bad guys' brainwashing, was a copy of him. Who broke out of their brainwashing. Apparently I am the answer to them. Except I ALSO broke out of their brainwashing. It doesn't seem very effective. And my form is just distinctive enough, thanks to combining it with Night Driver, to not just be a generic copy of him but actually my own person.

Other than that... we're looking at many years of fighting for JUSTICE, right up to end of the jump where it's time to hang up my belt and go into retirement.

>>52222328
Yes and yes. Will update the wording for the next version.

Jump #274: Showa Kamen Rider, Part 2
>King of Swords, reversed: A mature leader of unyielding ethics and absolute authority. An incorruptible judge.
>Age: 37 (-50: age chosen)
>Location: Japan, 1987
>Identity: Dummy Black (-100)
>Drawbacks: Connected Continuity (0)
Wait a minute. I already WAS a kamen rider. And now these guys kidnapped me to turn me into a kamen rider, again?! Oh, this will not end well for them. Good thing I already have a motorcycle.
>Ride Like The Wind (Free, Rider)
Again, doesn't hurt to get a little extra expertise at riding.
>Fists of Fury (750, Rider)
Adapt my fighting skills to fit whatever superhuman abilities I may have? Don't mind if I do!
>Good Genes (550)
Screwing around with DNA is fun! I don't actually plan on using it very much, but I'm sure that playing scientist before being converted (back) into a rider is of course a possible thing.
>Danger Instinct (350, Rider)
Detecting evil is important. Gut feelings... well, it's close enough, honestly.
>Child of the Sun (50, Rider)
If I'm never going to get the pendultimate power-up that Kamen Rider Black has, I may as well at least go for the RX power up.
>Kamen Rider Black & Kamen Rider Black RX Blu-Ray Set (0)
More stuff to watch on movie night.

Really, it's going to be basically more of the same. Fighting for JUSTICE. For ten years. ...again.

I think if I come back to this universe I don't want to be a kamen rider any more. Thirty years in a row of dealing with the non-stop cheese gets old fast.

>>52222328
>Mutation perk
Anomalous or Mutation perks

>>52221830
Not him but in setting the sajuuk is extremely underwhelming. You can take it down with 3 volleys of missiles and it doesn't seem to be all that powerful of a laser cannon either. Sure it can one shot any ship, one ship at a time.

I guess that having access to hyperspace gates is neat but it doesn't seem to worrh it for somethjng that takes all your cp plus an extra 200 cp.

>>52222328
>>52222358
Oh, yeah, Zombified Stalkers, heh. If you want another +100 drawback, "Vidya" or something: Zone critters suddenly get a looot more durable (like, you better start carrying lots of spare magazines, because what should realistically take one bullet now takes ten).

>>52222446
I knew there was a drawback I was forgetting. "Aimbots and Bullet Sponges"

>>52222366
Both Anomalous and Mutation can be purchased multiple times.

So, in general, do you guys think that Perks that give you a biology-based capability can be found in someone's DNA?

I was thinking of ways to pass my immunity to my companions and I remembered that I could engineer a retrovirus with the necessary gene.

>>52222544
Siren Blood Curse has a perk which lets you pass immunities by giving enough of your blood.

>>52222544
Depends on the perk. A lot of perks 'just work' even when it makes no sense, so they'd obviously have no biological representation becausethere's no need. But a lot of perks are basically just giving you something that exists in series, in which case it likely does have a biological representation.

Basically, what perks are you looking at?

What do you guys think of using the Stand along the Spin and Hamon? For a Joestar in part 4
Stand Name: 「Sexbomb」
Humanoid Stand, Close Range manifestation, Range of the bombs is potentially infinite.
Stand Ability: [This bomb´s for loving]- 「Sexbomb」´s ability allows it to generate small, spherical “bombs” that can be detonated at-will by its user- Instead of the explosion being damaging, however, they can generate a variety of purely benefitial effects for those caught in the blast- from healing their wounds to making them stronger, faster or more durable. These effects work on the user, albeit to a lesser extent- and while the user can make the blast radius bigger, the minimum size of the blast covers an area of two meters.
Awakening ability: [Sexual Healing]- After having awakened, [Sexbomb]´s ability to create bombs can be boosted to tremendous levels- having the benefitial effects become detrimental due to their intensity. While a normal healing bomb would just regenerate lost tissue and leave the target healthy, one boosted this way would make the body regenerate so fast as to cause a rapidly-growing cancer. When a normal bomb could make someone faster, one boosted like this would increase that speed past what the body can take, and make the ones affected tear their muscles and break their bones with that speed.

Power - A

Speed - B

Range - D

Durability - A

Precision - D

Potential - B

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Progress continues on the Old Kingdom jump. Does anybody here know the standard pricing for companions? I'll probably fill out the section for that next.

>>52222419
Thematically the Sajuuk is supposed to be the end all be all in the game, so I guess it's not completely wrong to make it high priced. Just because there are much cheaper alternatives doesn't mean the pricing is wrong.

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>>52219210
Currently I'm in the middle of trying to adapt Gems from Steven Universe for use in Kamen Rider Belts. Which is much harder than it sounds. I initially tried cutting the Gemstones into Cosmic Switches to use the power of Friendship, which worked GREAT. This universe is literally overflowing with the power of Friendship. Unfortunately, I've hit a bit of a snag. The transformation tends to apply some... psychological changes on the person while they are wearing the suit.

Amethyst was the first Gem I tried it with, mostly because it was the cheapest and easiest to obtain in the size needed to form the core of a Switch. The Transformation sequence works, with the suitable amount of Kamen Rider flair and music (punk rock bass) and the suit looks... not bad. Once transformed, enhanced strength was immediately apparent, as was a sudden change in the subject's attitude and demeanor. They started acting... well... a little like Amethyst. It's not a complete override by any means, but noticeable enough to be disorienting for friends and the belt wearer themselves.

So now I've got to find a way to stick a mental filter on the belt. Or something. Maybe they'd work better as Core Medals. That might make single person Fusions easier to maintain.

Jumps in Progress: Katawa Shoujo and Addams Family. I'm also working on a new Jump for Dan Gerous's Horror Chain. Going to dual release it along with my 25th Jump. Eventually. There'll be a short delay because I'm going to Comic Con today and tomorrow.

>>52219388
Considering the way my memories usually get sorted into my mind with little to no impact on my consciousness at large, not really. Whatever the Coordinator is planning for me, he wants me to be the one there at the other end of it.

That is a very interesting idea though. I like the analogy.

>>52222693
You've made 25 jumps?

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>>52222703
I guess I worded that poorly. No, I haven't. I'm not Heavens or Val by any stretch of the imagination. I'm up to six at least. Which isn't too shabby.

What I meant was: I'm going to release Dan Gerous's 5th Jump of his Chain alongside the 25th Jump of my Chain.

>>52222544
No. Not even the "basic" X-men genes make sense in their own setting, so a jumper's DNA packed full with hundreds of powers is running 100% on fiat. At least that's how I interpret it. Really, DNA giving you stuff like wheather control simply doesn't make sense.

>>52222498
>Aimbots and Bullet Sponges
>and

Just remember though, combat is a lot more deadly when you don't run on game mechanics, don't have lots of HP and can't reload from a saved game; unless you're bulletproof* a drawback that makes Zone hostiles into both aimbots _and_ bullet sponges is right up there with the other +300 drawbacks (while if you do happen to be bulletproof*, it's free points).

*and psychic proof and fire proof and radiation proof, this being the Zone after all.

>>52222595
Can you take more than one bloodline?
You might want to include a lore page with more info on free and charter magic, how tech and magic interact, etc.

>>52222796
It's worse than the other +300, because those at least give you a chance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYGlWjIKoY4

>>52222544
>>52222758
After a certain amount of jumps with the final form perk from SAO allowing me to access all my abilities in one form, my dna has apparently become something akin to an eldritch horror. The last person I had look at it immediately stabbed out their eyes and started speaking gibberish.

>>52222801

Yeah, multiple bloodlines can be taken. You have to, in fact, if you want the Remembrancer tree.

A lore page is definitely gonna get added in, at one point or another. There's probably too much relevant info to be included in the opening scrawl.

>>52222743
Not even Heavens or Val have reached twenty five, it's that magic number.

>>52222919
Both Dirge and Cats did, I think.

>>52222974
Cats and Dog are somewhere between 27 and 30. Dirge is 35. If you want that magic number it's at 40 now.

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Val, in SDS, if a companions becomes a pig, do they get the +100 CP?

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>>52223054
That's just... a ton of Jumps.

What's the best place to find magic that would let me summon heroes I've met in the past across time, space, and dimensions?

>>52223118

Fire emblem hereos

>>52223118
Hero BBS

>>52223135
I thought that gun only worked in the local multiverse.

>>52223086
Mhm

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>>52219974
Something for doing Creature Creator stuff? I spend so long just designing new creatures the whole time, instead of progressing through the game...

>>52223154
How goes the KonoSuba Jump?

Anyone know any perks that allow me to take on the properties of a magical item I'm either wearing or have stored away in a personal pocket space? I kinda want to use my telekinesis to build stuff with the boost Bayonetta's "Tools of the Trade" gives me.

>>52223421
the power of holding hands from Senki Zesshou Symphogear lets you do that also charm bag from secret of evermore

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>>52223118
Technically, if you crank a Gate spell from Dungeons and Dragons up a few notches by turning into an Epic Level spell, you should be able to make that work.

You could probably tie it together with that Summoning Gun from Fire Emblem Heroes to work around the limitations placed on it. Might want to pick up the Guru perk from Chrono Trigger for good measure though. Just in case.

>>52223118
Ngnl it can even summon from past jumps.

>>52223500
That's just what I'm looking for. Thank you.

>>52223529
It does have a time limit, so maybe toss some dnd metamagic on there like permanancy.

Does anyone have the WoW WIP with the race section?

hey question about the DXD update does the knowledge that the Sephiroth Graal impart upon its user include knowledge of modifications made to souls in previous jumps?

>>52223545
Infinity solves the time problem doesn't it as a spell?

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If you are a hollow from bleach and somebody looks at you with wizard sight or something to where they can see your soul would they see millions of other Souls Jammed together in a disgusting amalgamation of torment since hollows are built up on nations worth of souls?

>>52223545
>>52223576
Add Summoning from Overlord for enforced loyalty

>>52223545
The way it reads, it seems like 5 minutes is just a starting point. I think I'm going to magpie a lot of the ideas presented and mash them together into an ultimate summoning device. Companion limits are for squares!

>>52223576
Yeah I think.

>>52223618
Oh you'll run into the other problem that large companion chains have before long.

>>52223626
Which one?

>>52223626
Companion build lists are a problrm they will figure out.how anyone keeps more than two after 30 jumps is beyond me.

>>52223618
They are an outdated and dumb idea, yes.

What the hell was Quicksilver thinking. Oh wait, he wasn't.

>>52223640
Companion build lists aren't an issue. Just keep everything in excel, and store a secondary backup on something like Cherrytree or Onenote.

>>52223638
The actual writing of it. Writing stories with massive casts takes a substantial amount of balancing to make sure that everyone gets the level of character development they need. Normally with eight you'd at least be able to split up your focus. If you start to move into the higher end of companion counts, anywhere from 100 to the thousands, it becomes an extreme ordeal to write all of them properly, even if you designate a majority of them as support cast.

>>52223675
Good point. I didn't consider that.

>>52223661

Probably that we weren't going to powercreep nearly this hard.

>>52223711
Even if you're not writing it out completely in novel form, the problem still persists because over time you forget parts of the cast and their backstory. I've built an OC cast list for about roughly eleven or twelve years now, and out of the several hundred people in the cast, I really only know the full backstory and identity of maybe fifty, at most a hundred.

>>52223661
That everyone would use diminishing returns on powerups.

>>52223744
You really are dedicated to the craft. I was just looking for a cool toy to play with. I'm going to have to get more serious about this now. You've inspired me.

>>52223661
Come on man, there's no reason to start shit. Lots of people still use the rule of 8 and it works just fine.

What can magic from innistrad do?

>>52223779
You get attached after working on it for long enough, and starting young makes it easier, as long as you're willing to go back and help your earlier characters develop and mature as your own perspective changes. I use jumpchain more as a tool to play what ifs for my OCverse than anything, it's more fun for me that way. Don't have to give many shits about power levels because I always have the OCverse to fall back on too.

>>52223785
Mostly create zombies, Frankenstein-style mad science, or ward things/do holy stuff against monsters.

Vampires have their life-draining sangromancy and other stuff too.

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>>52223785
Make really good angels.

>>52222595
I'm liking how this is going.

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>>52223882
Only if you're an Oldwalker, or buy the perk.

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Whenever you enter a Jump that only gives low-powered/mundane backgrounds like "highschool student" and such, how long do you keep up the pretense that you're just a normal person?

>>52224177
Always normal, but usually exceptional in many ways unless I have a reason not to be.

>>52222595
How about a perk based on the Abhorsen bloodline that extends the effect to magic in other jumps, letting you learn normally antithetical disciplines?

>>52223618
If you have pods, you can overcome the 5 minute limit from the start.

use NGNL's Summoning to summon a companion. Pod them. When you're done, cycle the pod so it's empty again. Summon someone new, pod them, when they're done, cycle. summon. pod. cycle. summon. pod.

Then, you've got infinite companions, just with, a companion bandwidth of 1-7 depending on how many pods you bought.

>>52223605
I'd think that depends both on the nature of the Sight they're using and the stage of Hollow evolution you're at. It would be most likely to show as a Gillian or Ajucha since they're still fighting for control with all of the souls swarming around inside of them. But then a Vasto Lorde, Fifth Form, or Arrancar has evolved past the Hollow's need to consume souls and digested the ones inside of them fully. But something like the Dresden Files Sight may still show something, considering how absolute its effects tends to be.

>>52224177
Usually just go along with it. You can usually find time for jumper stuff while people think you're sleeping.

It's not like I'm at high school every jump and it is always an excellent opportunity for showing off.

>>52224380
Now I'm imagining a dresden files wizard soulgazing something like Alucard or a Hollow (lots of souls inside) and then accidentally soulgazing a soul while in a soulgaze.

>>52224419
>>52224380
Of course, on second thought, Harry has himself devoured a couple souls (well, not exactly, but ghosts are pretty close) and no one's seemed to comment on that.

>>52224485
I can't really recall anyone commenting on what they've seen in a soul gaze, though. We get access to Harry's POV often enough, but it doesn't come up in conversation, and we don't know how others perceive his soul.

>>52224518
True. Does tend to scare the shit out of people, though.

>>52224485
When did Harry eat souls?

>>52224552
In, uh, the third book. He ate both his own ghost (from when died and got revived) and the ghost of the warlock that was harrading him in his dreams.

>>52224312
This seems like an interesting idea, and will probably make it in, although I've no idea how to price it.

>>52224485
>>52224643
Yeah, but souls and ghosts aren't the same thing is Dresden. Ghosts are sorta just imprints, like magical AI or something, which is why messing with them isn't considered a crime like regular necromancy. Or something.

>>52224177
not very and it's always one of the hardest and usually one of the most dramatic parts of a jump. How do you tell your parents that you to the essence of a hyperdimensional meta-entity and also you are already married? here is your grandson and great-grandson and their wives. it's one of the few things I actually like about drop in origins.

>>52223720
He did that to himself by making psychic Batman a possible build in a CYOA based on Pokemon and giving InFamous some super powers that are still some of the cheapest in the chain. It's like throwing a grenade and then being upset when things blow up.

>>52224685
No, fucking with ghosts is Necromancy. Just, what Mort does toes the line and isn't technically Necromancy for some reason. Wnd they're close enough that Corpsetaker's ghost bodystealing Mort would be effectively the same as her body hopping in life.

>>52224698

He also tried to establish the general level early on by showing you that you were street level and the end game was Dragon Ball Z. You can't really say he shot himself in the foot when it's other people that brought it to this level, where planet busting isn't only a fairly common feat, it's expected once you're around long enough.

>>52224717
>what Mort does toes the line and isn't technically Necromancy for some reason
He's not summoning or binding the dead- just talking with them, iirc.

>>52224177
Really depends on what the background and setting is. I usually just fuck off immediately and ignore everyone since typically before jumping I wasn't the type of person to make friends irl, so I'm fairly certain no one would miss my jumper if they just disappeared. Or fake my jumper's death and then go off.

If I really gotta keep up the pretense that I'm normal I just go do stuff when people think I'm asleep or I become an A+ badass student.

>>52224781
Even before Dragon Ball Z endjump came out it was already pretty clear that everyone else had taken jumpchain out of Quicksilver's hands. If he said something the community liked, the community would cheer him on. Otherwise he was a figurehead at best.

>>52224863
Yeah, but that's not shooting himself in the foot though. The community carrying the baton isn't the same as the guy reaping what he sowed.

>>52224781
>You can't really say he shot himself in the foot

You can given he set the precedent for being relatively powerful for whatever setting you're in.

It took about 5 jumps to be made for people to realize it was getting out of hand as people were already Harry Potter magic wielding jedi. 100 jumps in people were always going to end up being stupidly OP and it was naive to think otherwise given what we already knew 5 jumps in. I was one of the nerfwhores early on who tried to make it so a single jump didn't make all others redundant by offering to much but the whole "muh street level" thing was always laughable.

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Companions, Drawbacks, Fluff, maybe a capstone booster, and it's done. If anyone wants to suggest anything for those, now's the time to do so.

>>52224907
Companion limits early on were stated very clearly to be around to explicitly stop you from carrying around an army, back when an army actually mattered though. Even if you were a magic wielding jedi, the consistent theme and thought was "there's only so much you can do by yourself, so this is a way of limiting how much help you can get at any one time so the focus stays on the small scale". Armies don't mean anything at the upper end though. If a Jumper is building for summons or minions or something, it's absolutely for fluff or taste purposes. If they're looking for power, they can get all the personal power they could ever want.. If something is a threat to a Jumper building that way now after Jumping for a while compared to back then, no amount of underlings or companions will truly gonna make a difference. At the levels we're at now, you either dominate or get fucked at the upper end.
Basically, the companion limit definitely made sense at the time. Numbers meant something at the time. It's only with age and incredible escalation that the limits became pointless. Quicksilver didn't have any way of seeing exactly where this was gonna with the intentions he had and tried to suggest. You can't compare "stupidly OP" of back then and "stupidly OP" of now for this since it's not even in the same ballpark.

>>52224970
I feel like a shitty fanfiction drawback is practically mandatory. Highschool DxD is almost as bad as Naruto when it comes to character bashing, once you adjust for their relative sizes. Worse, in some ways, very few Naruto fanfics bash Naruto himself, but plenty of DxD fanfics bash Issei.

>>52224782
That's what Necromancy originally was.

Is there anywhere with similar enchanting to TES but without the whole "fueled by stolen souls" thing?

>>52225017
The souls are just borrowed.

>>52224970
>no nekomata gear

I am sad.


But yeah lookinh good man! I request an unhealthy obsession drawback.

>>52225017
>>52225023
And it's generally animal souls.

>>52225011
Right there in the name, "-mancy" actually refers to magic used for information gathering. The word's just gotten kind of corrupted over the years.

>>52225011
Yeah, but it's not the illegal bits in Dresden. It's controlling them that's illegal.

>>52225023
It's still an inconvenient and impractical way to do enchanting, setting aside moral issues.

>>52224970
How much more physically and magically powerful is a dragon than the other races?

>>52225047
Use dark wisdom from overlord to translate it to another magic.

Use kamen rider plug in play to pop something equal to a spul in.

Young justice has a perk to use lesser stuff in enchanting like lizard blood in place of dragon blood maybe use bug souls.

>>52225088
>>52225047
Get any perk where your body is a soul and cut a chunk off for use.

>>52224177
Usually the entire jump, given my tendency to pretend to be average outside of a few designated skills.

>>52225100
Oh, I'll just shove Soulfire into them. Should help a lot.

>>52224970
Is it necessary to limit the longinus to one per person? The 2000cp price limit should be more than enough counterbalance to their great power.

>>52223421
Lost odyssey has one for immortals, iirc for 8 items

>>52224970
Is the Independent 100 meant to be discounted?

>>52223262
Supposedly that's going to be my bread and butter for the actual jump. I still have no clue how I'm going to break it up and handle it, though. Do I render it as evolution, or do I do the 'parts' thing? What is a 'part'? Will it only account for what's in the game itself- or can you find parts beyond it?

>>52225156
I think it's to tell people from a certain forum to go fuck themselves.

>>52225156
>>52225253
Creative mode!

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>>52225010
Will consider. I'd probably attach a 'no crossover' rule, mind.
>>52225028
OC options are still something I may be adding in a future update. Do not despair yet, brave anon. And that sounds like a good drawback idea.
>>52225067
I can't really give exact measurements, but considering Angels and Devils get superhuman strength at base, I imagine Dragons are a bit stronger than that. So the difference between lifting a car and lifting a stack of cars. Plus, you can change into a giant dragon, so about as much strength as that'd get you.
>>52225156
Mostly a vain attempt at preventing OTBs. Not because I feel like it's OP but because I SPENT NEARLY AN ENTIRE WEEK BINGING THIS MAD SETTING IF YOU JUST MAX DRAWBACKS TO GET TWO LONGINUS I WILL FUCKING MU-
>Camera cuts to static
I will rethink it a bit, but having two does seem a bit...excessive.
>>52225199
Nope, that is a typo. Should be free. I'll fix it right now.

>>52225017
Samurai Jack lets you learn runic weapon enchantments.

Fable has augmentations.

Dragon Age has enchantment but it's not really that good.

I believe you might be able to learn how to create magical items and weapons in Percy Jackson and Harry Potter.

Settings/jumps based off mythology and legends should also have something that helps with forging or enchanting weapons.

And Marvel and DC have had legendary weapons pop up in a few stories so you might be able to work something out by studying the magic in those settings.

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>>52224970

Those swords looks great bro, But waifu swords where?

>>52225344
oddly enough I don't think there are waifu swords in DxD

>>52225308
Regardless of whether it would lead to One True Build Syndrome, I think it would be funny to allow someone to have two Longinus just so they could buy both Boosted Gear and Divine Dividing. Play nice, Heavenly Dragons. Because you're stuck together for the rest of eternity. Your old hosts might have died someday, I'm living forever.

>>52225156
If you want two you can just buy Boosted Gear and shove a broken piece of Divine Dividing into it. It will be horrifyingly painful and shorten your lifespan but neither of those things are likely to be an issue for a jumper.

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>>52225238
>Supposedly that's going to be my bread and butter for the actual jump
I meant more like, a perk or item or something for a jumper to design creatures like that, even later on in other jumps. Besides it being part of the jump itself to create your own species?

>Do I render it as evolution, or do I do the 'parts' thing? What is a 'part'?
Maybe something like how EVO: Search for Eden handles it? Not sure how to do 'parts' though.

>Will it only account for what's in the game itself- or can you find parts beyond it?
I'd say go beyond what's in the game. Aside from inviting more creativity... You mentioned not-disallowing aquatic stuff, right? Would be hard to do without aquatic adaptations.

>>52225308
1.does the knowledge from Sephiroth Graal cover soul stuff from other settings?
2.what is the companion import going to be like?
3. Earlier there was talk of importing things for sacred gears, did this fall through?

>>52225359
That is something a jumper will need to fix when they get there.

>>52225308
>Mostly a vain attempt at preventing OTBs. Not because I feel like it's OP but because I SPENT NEARLY AN ENTIRE WEEK BINGING THIS MAD SETTING IF YOU JUST MAX DRAWBACKS TO GET TWO LONGINUS I WILL FUCKING MU-
If they want two they'll find a way to get two. All you're doing is flailing about trying to put up as many fences as possible while assuming how people will build for your jump.

>>52224409
Hey man, would eating Lorkhan's heart count as ascending to godhood and force you to stay in the jump?

>>52225391
I don't blame him with all the autistic screeching people do around here because they can't stand not being better than the MC with no effort.

>>52225404
The MC sucks, you are probably better than him by default.

>>52225329
>>52225017
Forgot some.

Sword and Sorcery, Chrono Trigger, Thundercats had some enchanted stuff that was rare and extremely difficult to make, and Star Wars had a few really weird artifacts created by dark side magic.

>>52225370
Though only if you use Divine Dividing's powers directly. If you manage to evolve Boosted Gear into a new form (Issei did it with Evil Pieces, but I'm sure it's possible in other ways) you can manifest Divine Dividing's powers through "Wyvern Fairies", little remote bits of armor that you can summon. The Wyvern Fairies can also manifest Boosted Gear's powers, too, allowing you to Boost things at a range. They can even fuse together on top of a person to give them their own Boosted Gear, though one without the later upgrades.

>>52225421
I mean sure he has some issues but those aren't so bad.

>>52225380
>I meant more like, a perk or item or something for a jumper to design creatures like that, even later on in other jumps. Besides it being part of the jump itself to create your own species?
Ah, that. It's going to be a part of Space Stage, which has an item in it that lets you design your own creature from scratch and gives you some samples of them so you can use them for terraforming.

>>52225308
>Will consider. I'd probably attach a 'no crossover' rule, mind.
>mfw "Go Away, I am Watching Porn"
...Might want to have limits on fanfiction power levels or some such.

Yes, I know how ridiculous that sounds when talking about DxD.

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>>52225359
>oddly enough I don't think there are waifu swords in DxD

That means I was lied too when an anon mentioned waifu swords from DxD yesterday?

>>52225308

is this alarm clock going to be in the item section?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3LrzL5TSQ0

>>52225434
No I mean just obtaining Divine Dividing in this way is horrifyingly painful and shortens your lifespan, though using it without finding a creative solution repeats that problem every time you do so.

>>52225329
Speaking of Samurai Jack, I've got a couple questions about Summoning:

Are the summons intelligent/sapient? Is there a maximum distance they can be from you? Does it directly drain your magical power to power them/keep them active? If you killed someone and there's no way they have access to their power source later on when you summon them (say something like a Worm Parahuman) will their powers still function?

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Who is you favorite digimon jumper?

>>52225404
When has /jc/ not been autistic screeching over something trivial? It doesn't change the fact that what he's doing is essentially limiting builds because he's convinced that without the barrier, the only thing worthwhile in the jump is two Longinus. That's what tossing on barriers like this comes off as.

If he's already going to slap a 1000 CP price cost onto it, he didn't need to gate it by quantity at all. If he wants to make it difficult, put in drawback combinations that'll kill the jumper if they try it.

>>52225513
What in gods name is that?

>>52224970

Tempted to fuse a completed excalibur.

>>52225513
my wife she is a Darkdramon

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>>52225528
That is omekamon. He attacks with markers.

>>52225513
Mine is renamon.

>>52225532
You can go even further, the Excalibur shards can actually be fused to Durandal, too. Makes for the silly sounding but powerful Ex-Durandal.

>>52225513
Seadramon.

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>>52225513

Fucking hell it's hard to nail down a singular favorite. Candlemon pictured here though was one of the first cards I ever got and I really enjoyed picturing it as my partner as a kid.

>>52225515
>implying anyone treats drawbacks as anything other than free points anymore

>>52225515
Or he could, you know, continue using the source material for inspiration and stick a simple note in there instead of dreaming up OC drawback combinations that most Jumpers with lolroll past anyways.

People are going to fanwank whatever way they want anyways.

>>52225550
Not Durandal-EX?

>>52225513
I'm sad that the Applimon Youkai Watch knockoff has killed off the Digimon series.

>>52225497
Oh, I see, just the initial fusion. Yeah, that drains your life, but relatively little compared to actually using Dividing. I'd hold out for the Wyvern Fairies even if it wasn't dangerous to me, though. Those things are awesome. I'm not sure why, but the idea of reflector bits is a really cool one to me.

>>52225561
>Implying you haven't been saying the same shit since single digit threads.
Seriously, this is one of those nostalgic arguments that involve a time that NEVER EXISTED.

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>>52225544
forgot the picture

>>52225606
Man, that's not a wife. That's a humanoid blender.

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>>52225363
That is admittedly hilarious enough to make me reconsider.
>>52225386
1. If you're currently in said setting, maybe?
2. Not sure yet.
3. Ended up falling through in favor of a static list, I'm afraid.
>>52225486
Probably a good idea.
>>52225391
Suppose so.
>>52225488
The item listed is kind of an artifact - I sincerely wasn't sure if I'd be doing an item list since Gears and Holy Swords ARE the items of note in this setting. I'll be going right to Companions and erasing that one item listed.

>>52225561
I don't use drawbacks period. Never had a reason to.

>>52225560

Candlemon was always cool, his design is simple but cool.

at work so cant hit irc, I ended up splirging on that 15th anniversary digivice from tamers

>>52225557
Good taste

>>52225544
I did not expect that.

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>>52225473
Awesome, thank you.

In any case, I'm really looking forward to the jump. Good luck!

>>52225606
It says a lot that this is the least disturbing fetish picture I've seen you post.

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>>52225626
Not bancho but the rookie version is a fucking bro and a half. His attacks are shooting stuff and tossing grenades.

>>52225632

Thanks! Ah, hey dude. I was wondering who had the good sense to throw up cardboard knight. Congrats on the D-Arc purchase!

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>>52225513
This handsome devil right here.

Runner-up is ZeedMillenniummon, but I only like that form of his, while I dig Infermon's line all the way from Kuramon to Armagemon.

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>>52225672
Second pic

>>52225672

Hell yeah! Another one of my all time favorites, constantly fighting for top spot with Candlemon. He's also got predator camouflage and a laser claw!

>>52225513
>tfw I'm a Laylamon/Lilithmon pleb

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>>52225672
>>52225692
I know nothing about Digimon, but at least now I know when one I'm grabbing when I end up there.

>>52225685

I really enjoyed Infermon's whole line too. The only one I'm kinda iffy on is Chrysalimon, and even then it's a pointy tentacle cocoon which is neat.

>>52225703

Hey, favorites are favorites, man. All of'em are welcome Unless your favorite is boner guy in the Gatmon costume. Legit worst Digimon.

>>52225716

Highly recommend it. His baby forms are a bomb and a missile respectively and he later turns into a navy seal dinosaur and a fucking tank dragon!

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>>52225630
1. If you're currently in said setting, maybe?

that's fair,


2. Not sure yet.

I get it. It's a WIP, figured I would ask

3. Ended up falling through in favor of a static list, I'm afraid.

that's reasonable

>The item listed is kind of an artifact - I sincerely wasn't sure if I'd be doing an item list since Gears and Holy Swords ARE the items of note in this setting. I'll be going right to Companions and erasing that one item listed.

Fair enough. I just thought it was a cool clock

>>52225626
I take it as rough as I give it with my girl,Can you say the same?
>>52225632
yeah fusion is the closest digimon get to sex and it's pretty obvious what I was

>>52225570
It's not like we don't already have a DxD jump. If the outcome of this jump isn't what people want, they'll just use the old one to get what they want. What's he going to do, waste money irl to hunt them down and shout at them?

>>52225716
Explain please who this is.

>>52225630
You probably already noticed, but just in case, you might want to rewrite the start of the Sacred Gear section now that regular items won't be on offer.

>>52225764

Slime magician? I'm guessing her stage name is "The Mighty Sploosh."

>>52225630
>That is admittedly hilarious enough to make me reconsider.
If you do maybe it should come with a unique drawback, like an un-balance breaker or something?

>>52225513
That is either the cutest digimon or the worst designed digimon I have ever seen.

>>52225816
it's digimon there isn't really a difference

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>>52225764

It's a OC slime with no name

>>52225749
To be fair here, one of them had to be made of the internets skeevy side. I mean even more so than the laylamon and the angewomon and renamon. The bad skeevy side.

>>52225816

Worst design? . . .I'm gonna need to link Boner Gatomon Man, aren't I

>>52225841
NO

>>52225838

You know, you're not even wrong. We're really lucky Digimon come from a more innocent world than ours. There'd be so many fuckin porn Digimon if they were born from our world's internet.

>>52225841
>Boner Gatomon Man

in fairness, that was a homemade fursuit that became Cannon after the fact, rather than an original design by the artists

>>52225841
Yes.

>>52225841
do not

>>52225846
>>52225857
>>52225865

The nays have it! Today

>>52225841
Considering all the digimon porn out there, that's not that bad at all.

>>52225912
Yeah but that is noncanon, creepy gatoman is.

>>52225892
But I really what to know what you're talking about and Google searches turned up nothing.

>>52225949
his name is Betsumon technically

>>52225990
>Betsumon
>Searches
I.. but that's... I'm... What? Isn't this supposed to be a kid show?

>>52226012
welcome to Japan!

>>52225772
I'm on it.
>>52225798
Eeeeh, that makes it a bit excessive. Honestly, thinking about it, the sort of people who'd do that will do it anyways.

Most I'll note is that using both at the same time is PROBABLY a bad idea, but I'm not going to fiat wall it.

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>>52225983

I'll link it with a spoiler, just to sate the curiosity of the ones curious. (If you don't wanna see it, don't click.) It's not a huge deal, seriously, just mentioning it for those who really don't wanna see.

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>>52226040

>>52226040
...
Fucking japs.

>>52226054
Its a belly button and a bulge.

>>52226089

I think he's referencing the bulge.

>>52226054
>>52226089
yeah he is based on a cosplayer so his Abilities are based on cosplaying as other digimon,he is fully decent. if you look at his head You can see He is wearing a bodysuit.

>>52225749
> boner guy in the Gatmon costume
what

>>52226121

See >>52226040

What would you guys say is a good way to, either selectively or passively no-sell Rogue's mutant power?

How about Tattletale's power(from Worm)?

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>>52226110
>>52226121
>>52226012
He also does a omnimon impression

>>52225630
>Probably a good idea.
Is it really?

Also, fanfiction drawbacks are cancer, anyway.

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http://pastebin.com/TGFTGSHW

A taste of what the Syndrome Power sections for Double Cross are going to look like!

Sorry for the formatting, it looks better as a google doc right now.

>>52226040
>>52226126
This abomination is as bad as Applimon.

>>52226149
drain no from young justice

>>52226179

Applimon?

>>52226194
It's the new 'Digimon'. Basically they're throwing out the entire Digimon series and replacing it with Applimon, which is based on smart phone apps and the Youkai Watch series.

Basically, they've killed Digimon to chase Youkai Watch dollars even as that series deflates.

>>52226211

That's really sad actually. What's the overall plot of the thing? How do the "Applimon" work?

>>52226149
Get a Symbiote from Symbiote, have it synthesize a layer of inorganic material over your body.
Mu from Exalted: Infernals. It blocks all information gathering powers and lets you tailor what they get.

>>52226040
Pretty normal for Japan

>>52226173
Syndrome from the Incredibles?

>>52226219
No English release, but it plays just like Youkai Watch if you've ever seen that.

>>52224970
A drawback to replace Issei? Horniness and stupidity included.

>>52226310

Yikes. Yeah, that's a bummer. Digimon has never really had a consistent style for their games, but that really is away from the norm.

>>52225400
It depends on whether that would let you ascend to godhood and whether you could eat it in the first place.

You likely wouldn't be able to without out of setting perks and it'd kill you to try given Kagrenac's enchantments. If you have perks that give you the powers of the things you eat then obviously yes.

It's quite possible the heart is indestructible, it's also probably not entirely physical as it disappears and reappears in other places after it's tether to Red Tower is broken. It's a pretty fundamental part of the setting's metaphysics so you probably can't eat it and even if you tried to swallow it whole it more than likely wouldn't break down or would disappear again.