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Are boob-plates a necessity after all?

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Are boob-plates a necessity after all?
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>>52210694
No, breast plates come in various sizes. Even someone with large breasts can get a larger breast plate made without sword catching.
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>>52210694
Personally, I don't care either way.
You want unrealistic armor? Sure, but don't complain when I put potatoes into medieval and other un-"verisimilar" things.
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Ladyknights wear heavy armor that makes them undistinguishable from men.
Thick amazons don't wear any armor at all.
So basically there's no need in boobplate.
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>>52210694
Sexy Lady Coming Through.
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>>52210861
Sure that's not just a trap?
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>>52210812
>Ladyknights wear heavy armor that makes them undistinguishable from men.
No they don't.
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So is this gonna be a cute girls in armor thread or an *autistic screeching* thread?
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>>52210900

Much better a reverse trap
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>>52210909
No one explained how to make OP-pic tits work in armor yet
Chestlets like in >>52210861 needn't apply, max CHA girls need to wear armor too
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>>52210694
>Fat tits.
>off balance.
>All that waste.
>Restricted breathing.
>Awkward sword swings.
>Fatty mammaries serve no protection.

Remove cows on battlefield.
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>>52210954

High CHA girls can wear bulky armor too. Just make it very, very bulky.
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>>52210694
whatever is most aesthetically pleasing or makes sense. Maybe it could work in a setting where distinguishing a female from a male is for some reason important on the battle field.
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>>52210861
Damn, girl. Shake that cuirass for me.
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>>52210954
>chestlet
>from the dimensions of the chest plate, she could easily be a C.
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>>52210978
Say that to my king and not online and see what happens
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>>52211141
Your tits are shit and any archer worth their salt would have you dead by the time you stepped onto the battlefield.
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I swear somebody made a bingo chart for these sort of threads. Anybody have it?
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>>52211178
>sending archers against a Lancer
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>tfw a ladyknight will never train you to be a proper man until you're tough enough to smite evil alongside her
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>>52211178

You do realize medieval archers weren't fucking snipers, right? That most artillery lines peppered the enemy ranks with numbers not accuracy, yes?

I mean yeah her armor is still shit and an arrow will probably kill her (being Arturia Pendragon and literally invincible nonwithstanding) but y'all need to stop with this "a single archer worth his shit kills everything" meme.
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>>52211353

>tfw ladyknight will never save you from a dragon
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>>52211304
>Underestimating the power of a proper archer.
>Being so arrogant as to think you're not going to get sniped half a town away.
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>>52211398
>Archer
>Never used anything remotely resembling an arrow or bolt
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>>52211428
He literally just used projection to create an arrow in that gif.


It was a sword once, but it became an arrow when he drew the bow back.
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>>52211374
I didn't even realize who she was until the Fateaboo's came out of the woodwork.

I'm just saying, if someone rode into battle looking like that, they'd end up dead or severely injured after the initial volley(s).
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>>52211477

Well yes, but don't backpedal past "any archer worth his salt", because it implies an individual made that kill deliberately, which is a load that 4chan needs to stop. Legloas isn't a thing.
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>>52211519
Are you sure trained rangers didn't just sit in the back line and sniped while the others shot a distracting volley?
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>>52211477
When you've got a magic sheath that'll let you heal from any wound, you get to dress however you like.
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>>52211398
>Archer
>Proper anything
Only thing he could be argued is a proper failure. Mind of Steel is best ending. Kiritsugu was a weak willed manbaby.
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>>52211178
I think you have archers confused with the movie version of Legolas, anon.
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>>52211141
>king
Something something, power is derived from the mandate from the masses, something something, not some farcical aquatic ceremony.
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>>52211549
Yes.

Because that wasn't the position of any ranged forces until the advent of reliable firearms. Muskets, slings, javelins, english longbowmen, everything all were used in formations that let you send a swarm of nearly-unaimed projectiles at the enemy army. The only outliers are either mythology, hunting, or small-scale fights.

Peltasts, who were known for carrying throwing javelins to throw in short range, weren't intended to strike and kill the enemy. They'd stay on the wings of the advancing army, and then retreat, throwing javelins, when the heavy infantry started to get close. They were supposed to make the enemy hoplites' advance more difficult.

Horse archers, to use an RTS term, weren't meant to kill the enemy like snipers- they were harassers. Dangerous enough to not be able to ignore, but fast enough and lightly-armored enough to be a real challenge to kill.

Stop conflating RPGs and movies with reality.
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>>52210861

MOOOOOOOODDDDSSSSS
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>>52211686
What's the matter anon? Can't handle a lady that's properly armored?

What are you, some sorta beta manlet that has to show off his chest and arms to make yourself feel manly?
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>>52211549
The closest thing you're talking about would have been skirmishers. Armed with ranged weapons, they would harass the enemy, drawing attention away from the main attack force. They were typically positioned at the flanks, and were rarely the main force.

As it turns out, hundreds of volleyed arrows is more effective than, say, a few dozen aimed shots. Because it's not a single target you're aiming for. You'd be aiming at a huge mob of people, all of whom are just as likely to kill you as the strange lady in sexy armor.
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Amputation is always an option.
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>>52211750
But how do you perform paizuri then?
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>>52210694
No.
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>>52210812
>Ladyknights wear heavy armor that makes them undistinguishable from men.
But both genders still look fabulous, right?
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>>52210694
Honestly, if you have tits large enough that you can't fit inside a normal breastplate, you have tits large enough to get in the way of every sort of combat that involves using your hands.
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>>52210861
Original.
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>>52212675
Fight with your tits then
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>>52212629
>you will never be this fabulous
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>>52211672
You bloody peasant
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>>52211451
Fuck off, Archer you chuuni. You can't just take a sword and say it's an arrow, that shit doesn't fly.
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>>52212789
Already have enough arcane casters in the party.
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>>52212984
I dunno, it flew pretty far
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>>52210694
>Armored woman
>But don't forget the classical, absolutely medieval, high school skirt

fucking nips
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>>52213037
Cry more, bitchnigga
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>>52212789
For some reason I imagine a battlerager barbarian with torso-sized tits plated in specialized spiked armored plating and swinging them around like oversized flails.
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>>52210694
>Playing in a setting with steel plate
Pre-14th century or bust, kid.
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>>52213129
>playing post 5th century
Plebeians leave this board
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>>52211729
What if I'm a beta who can handle a lady that's properly armored?
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>>52213163
>not playing in Antiquity Greece
Your Roman Empire can fuck right off.
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>>52212984
That's what magic does. He makes arecreation of a powerful sword that has lots of explosive magic/history in it- because its legends say that it can cleave mountains in half, that's what it does when created. This is what a Noble Phantasm is- something that's closer to a crystalized legend than the actual legitimate sword.

Then he overcharges it with magic, turning it into a 'broken phantasm'. Something that's so overcharged that it destroys itself on activation. Normally a broken phantasm is something of last resort, since it literally destroys the NP forever, but since this is a shitty, half-hearted projection of one, it just makes it as good as the real thing for one blow.

But he's not a Saber. He can't really do that.

So what he does instead is uses his magic and quite literally takes the 'this is a sword' property of it, and clumsily scrawls 'this is an arrow' over it, using his own properties as an Archer to get thaumaturgic leverage.

I like Nasuverse's magic system. It's fun.

I disagree that EMIYA should've ever been an archer, but Kyudo- japanese archery- is more of a meditation method that means 'focus on one thing'. The reason he's an archer isn't because he's literally a bow-user, but because he focused on one thing to such an extreme that he 'mastered' kyudo.
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>>52213219
Daily reminder that EMIYA got BLACKED in his latest iteration.
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>>52213205
>wanting to play literal pederasts
>when you could have lots of children with you sister-wifes
Zoroastrian Persia is the only patrician setting
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>>52213248
>Unga bunga graka do
Hunga dra fuku of
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>>52213248
>not running a prehistoric pre-meteor-impact "West of Eden" campaign
Absolutely plebeian.
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>>52213117
>D&D 3.5
>Wanting to prove herself just as capable as her peers, a big breasted woman monk creates a school of fighting that involves using your tits to bludgeon people to death.
>Female monks can take Weapon Focus (Breasts) as a bonus feat at 1st level, Weapon Specialization (Breasts) at 2nd level and the Three Mountains style feat at 6th level without having to meet the prerequisites.
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>>52213270
Does it have sister-wifes? If yes, sign me up.
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>>52213205
>not playing in ancient Mesopotamia

Is Ashurbanipal gonna have to slap some (more) shit today?
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Any fuckers not playing in 15th Century Germany are fucking plebs or degenerates
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>>52213447
>germany setting
>not set during imperialism
The shittest of tastes
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>>52210694

Depends on what you mean. If you mean armor with "cups" no, it's generally a terrible idea for a lot of reasons. If you mean (like some people do now, apparently) armor that has any sort forward slant to compensate for the presence of large or dense breasts than yes, it is sometimes necessary to do so. Not every body shape is suited to a flat-front chestplate and all boobs are not equally compressible.
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>>52210861
10/10, would bang
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>>52211684

We also have access to written standards for period military competency. In almost all cases the written standards dealt in being able to hit an area of ground several feet wide from a very long distance, not striking a target at a closer distance. Military archery and bow hunting were two very different things.
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>>52212629

If there's two things nobles have always loved it's protective gear and bling, so yes.
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>>52211729
>raven hair
>red eyes
Muh dick
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>>52213037
>he doesn't know about Greeks and celts
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>>52212789
>>52213117
Ow. Just ow.
Think of the tits man, don't you want them to get bruised under better circumstances?
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>>52210861
>>52212785
This is actually 10 times more attractive than I thought it would be. I'm impressed.
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>>52211616
Leave Zombie Island Dad out of this, you monster
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>>52210812
Even putting aside large-breasted ladyknights that would need more room for their tits than men would for their pecs, there' still the fact that women have a different bone structure and center of balance than men do, which would need to be accounted for in their armor.

So even without boobplate or armored skirts or high heels for infantry, there should still be some visible difference between a man in armor and a woman in armor.
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>>52211398
>refutes historical fact
>posts anime

Anon...
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>>52213903
Is this bait?
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>>52213903
This is /tg/, not /his/.
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>>52213903
That line of conversation had already taken a turn towards anime. The post he was responding to was already referencing the game mechanics of Fate/Grand Order.
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>>52210694
Maybe for fatties, and they're not likely to be knights anyway.
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>>52213903
>historical fact
Nigguh did you misclick the board?
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>>52210861
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>>52210908
I wouldn't play in a setting where they don't.
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>>52211304
Agincourt went so well for the French knights.
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>>52214188
>tfw your will never have a gf that will dress up as Samus for you
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>>52210954
CHA is not and has never been a measure of physical endowment, you memer you.
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>>52214258
>Agincourt went so well for the French knights.

>Actually thinks the French main attack was carried out by mounted men-at-arms.
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>>52212789
.... I'm pretty sure there's an anime like that....
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>>52214317
>actually thinks french knights weren't btfo so badly that 900 years later we still talk about it
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>>52214345
So you shouldn't send Englishmen after French women because they lost at Orleans and we still talk about it?
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>>52214391
Nope because she got burned alive in the end and lost outright, Napoleon gets mad respect tho
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>>52210861
Why do paladin always make me want to sin?
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If you have women fighters you're already being unrealistic, don't see why people would get hung up on specifics like this
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>>52213612
Considering that Barbarians have very little regard for self preservation for the most part and have enough physical durability to ignore any need for armor in the first place, her knock-arounders aren't going to bruise too easily.
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>>52214421
So we should ignore Agincourt because the English ultimately lost the Hundred Years' War? I'm not following your logic here.
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>>52214258
>thinks longbowmen are the same thing as archers
whewlad.exe
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>>52214446
Only if you're talking about the front lines of war. Women being trained in combat to protect the home is a thing that happened, most notably in Japan.

Granted, they weren't decked out in armor. But I can imagine that in fantasy worlds where the Orcs are knockoff Mongol hordes or where some sort of Demon Lord has rallied all the monsters a la so many fantasy anime, armored women isn't that farfetched.
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>>52214574
>Granted, they weren't decked out in armor. But I can imagine that in fantasy worlds where the Orcs are knockoff Mongol hordes or where some sort of Demon Lord has rallied all the monsters a la so many fantasy anime, armored women isn't that farfetched.

Fine, but only if the Orcs get BTFO by tornadoes both times they try to invade Not!Japan.
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>>52214598
No, this time they try to invade not-America and get decimated by indigenous diseases.
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>>52213201

Then you're a man of excelent taste.
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>>52214188
>Samus
>Without the height or the muscles
I'm sorry honey, but I just can't get turned on if I'm not being pinned down by a woman about a head taller than me who could clearly rip my arms off if she wanted to.
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>>52214793
>Samus
>muscles
wot
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>>52214429
Because the gods know that if even if you're not willing to sully yourself in their name, you'd be willing to do so if the boner is strong enough.
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>>52214842
>Inb4 not canon
IT'S CANON IN MY HEART
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>>52214793
>Implying that's not exactly what I want

>>52214842
educate yourself.
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>>52211398
Although this is likely bait, for lurkers.
Bows had pretty shit range for most of history. Ancient bows had an effective range of a thrown weapon (like a throwing spear). Later bows (particularly the longbow) got most of its power to harm came from its gaining speed as it descended on its arching path. This arching path that gave it its power removed most hopes of accuracy, meaning it was best against groups.
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>>52214882
>>52214895
Even that isn't that ripped.

Super seems to be the only Metroid game that really depicts Samus as particularly muscled at all. By Fusion we were already getting waif-ish Samus.
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>>52214946
That's interesting to know, and I now want a system that represents this.
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>>52214946
I believe that the characters in that series of posts come from the Fate/(catchy tagline here) series. It essentially devolved into a "my servant is better than your servant" argument.
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>>52214960
>We will never have mainstream musclegirl protagonists because it upsets the waifufags
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>>52214446
Or maybe you should find out what is realistic and what is not before talking about that sort of thing.
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>>52214164
>amelia

mah nigga

she's the best girl in FE8
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>>52215030
I'd waifu a musclegirl in a heartbeat.
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>>52215030
What about Korra? Not commenting on the show's quality, but it was certainly mainstream.
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>>52214574
only for self-defense and last resort militias though, never soldiers or adventurers (of course "adventurer" is mostly a fantasy anyway, so w/e)
>>52215301
lmao
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>>52215416
Korra is a shit waifu. Her only good quality is her appearance.
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>>52215030
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>>52214322
It's called "Keijo!!!!!!!!"
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>>52214322
Keijo isn't anime, it's KINO
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>>52215427
We could also extrapolate that what female warriors have existed throughout history would have been far more common if the threat level was high enough or sufficient difference in culture. Not to cheapen the discussion, but it comes down to the age old, "depends on the setting." Play the setting, not real life. This includes settings that actively do not support any female warriors, even as PCs. You can always do homebrew if you don't like it either way.
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>>52215427
Is someone using the internet for something other than shitposting really too much to ask? I mean the info is out there and all you have to do is look. here is a taste https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Hatchet
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>>52210954
>"I think breasts are solid balls which cannot be squished enough to fit in the broad space supplied by a pigeon-chested breastplate."

Stop watching so much anime. I bet you think you can suffocate someone with boobs, too.
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>>52214960
She's always been pretty waifish, man. Metroid II, the one that created the specs nintendo power used, is probably the slimmest samus has ever been.

The stats are for her IN the power suit, not her outside it.
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>>52210694
You've never experienced tits beyond anime or your mother, if you honestly believe that boob plates are a necessity.
They are not rigid objects. They deform. They will fit in sensibly shaped and fitted armour. If they are ridiculously endowed, the chest piece can just be enlarged. No need for cups.
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>>52215790
We can dream
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>>52216096
I love these comics.
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>>52216096
my job is to kill dreams

I bought a print of her space pirate samus dossier at a local con. It's pretty cool. I should get it framed or mounted one of these days.
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>>52215656
Yeah, I agree completely
>>52215689
Do you think there's anything in this article that contradicts what I've said?
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>>52216191
Is there a link to somewhere I can view an online version?
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>>52210760
>You want unrealistic armor?
HOLY FUCK LOOK AT THIS UNREALISTIC ARMOR! ONLY A MISOGYNERD MAN CHILD COULD HAVE POSSIBLY COME UP WITH IT.
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>>52216244
Never said it did, I was replying to the imao bit and I like to back up what I say.
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>>52216263
10/10 would fondle
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>>52216263
LOOK AT HOW UNREALISTIC THIS ARMOR IS! OMFG! I CANT BELIEVE IT. CLEARLY, IT WAS DESIGNED BY PEOPLE COMPLETELY UNCONNECTED TO REALITY
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>>52215432
but she IS a legit musclegirl protagonist
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>>52216245
I don't think it's ever been put online.

so... I'll just tease you instead, I guess?
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>>52216263
>>52216292
Was it used in battle tho?
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>>52216299
>She's underage
>She's over 10 years my junior
>TFW too old for musclegirls
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>>52216292
GOD I HATE MEN SO MUCH! WHY DO THEY HAVE TO SEXUALIZE WOMEN IN EVERYTHING THEY DO. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT REAL LIFE ARMOR IS 100% FUNCTIONAL,
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>>52216308
ty c:
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>>52216330
SEXUALIZED ARMOR IS COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC! STOP MAKING IT IN RPGS MYSOGYNISTS
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>>52216330
>>52216347
>tfw you have to go into battle against Lord Squllefuque
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>>52216347
>>52216330
So was the wearer's dong just that big or something?
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>>52216347
LOOK AT THIS TOTALLY UNREALISTIC ARMOR WITH DECORATED NIPPLES! MISOGYNY! MISOGYNY!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>52216292
I don't necessarily want armor to be 100% functional with no style. But I don't want it to be 100% extravagant fantasy with no practicality either. I think that a balance is superior to either of these extremes. What I want is a happy medium somewhere in between. And, for me, booblate isn't it.
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>>52216358
Probably just a wadded up sock.
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>>52216330
>>52216347
>>52216361
But did any of this shit see battle? For all you know some rich faggot wore it to show off and it never saw any fighting.
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>>52216361
ONE THING IS FOR CERTAIN, SEXUALIZATION OF ARMORS HAS NEVER HAPPENED EVER IN HISTORY. IT JUST DOESNT MAKE LOGICAL SENSE. NO ONE WOULD EVER WASTE TIME ON IT. YOU MANCHILDREN ARE SO STUPID!!!!!!!!!
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>>52216406
OMFG THIS NOBLE FEMALE WARRIOR WAS FORCED TO WEAR A MINISKIRT IN BATTLE BY THE PATRIARCHY!!!!! I HATE MEN!!!!!
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>>52216441
You gonna run out of pictures to yell about soon? This is starting to get boring.
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>>52216406
>>52216441
All of your tantrum is just one big strawman. I'm not saying that stylization of armor has never happened in history. What you're presenting my argument as is nothing like my actual argument. What I'm saying is that I don't like stuff like pic related. I love armor that has some stylization to it while still looking like it could serve its purpose and was designed for use in actual combat.
Are you done behaving like a petulant 14 year old now?
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>>52216406
Did dong armor see battle?
>>52216441
Now you are just being a faggot
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>>52216441
LOOK AT THIS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE ARMOR THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO OPPRESS WOMEN!!!!! PHYSICS SAYS THAT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE BUT YOU STILL DO IT!
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>>52216392
The nipple armor maybe. Higher officers in the roman legions were quite into them. Likewise did the greek fancy them a while, before switching to linthorax.
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>>52216392
Yes, they just wore full plate around the town and to parties. They never left the house without full plate, in fact. Never know when you're gonna have to go to battle in the middle of the day.
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>>52216502
Considering which culture made it - it was more about impressing men
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>>52216392
Most suits of the period had normal codpieces. The showpieces anon's posting were mostly limited to the richer guys, who at that point weren't really taking part in the fighting unless shit really went south.

sperg anon's kind of being ridiculous, though
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>>52216502
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>52216468
>What you're presenting my argument as is nothing like my actual argument.

Ever stop to think it's because you have no argument? Because every point you're making is autistic whining that amounts to nothing more than your own entitlement being blared loudly like it should be taken seriously.
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>>52216535
>ywn look in awe at a brave knight's endowment, cursing the homophobic norms of medieval Christian Europe
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>>52216535
THIS ARMOR IS DESIGNED TO REDUCE WOMEN TO NOTHING BUT A PAIR OF TITS! RPG ARMOR IS A SPEECH ACT OF PATRIARCHAL OPPRESSION!!!!!
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>>52216512
If it was more about showing off, they wore the cool looking shit. Battle wasn't much about showing off.
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Well, this thread had a good run before it went full retard. Thanks for the pics and interesting discussion.
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>>52216332
Oh, huh. I just did some searching for you and they do sell it through the shop link.
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>>52216559
Verily, 'tis not sodomy if thine balls toucheth not those of the brave knight.
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>>52216581
>realism autists and feminists bitching about armor
>good thread

Pick one.
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>>52216330
>>52216347
I'm dead fucking certain these are medieval blacksmith shitposting.


>An acute angle in armor
>IN FUCKING ARMOR
>RIGHT OVER YOUR DICK
>DEFLECTING
>ANYTHING
>INTO YOUR DICK
>Also a fucking literal INCAP ME PLS button for blunt force

>b-b-but it's obviously a sock or something!

CAN YOU SEE THE FUCKING ACUTE ANGLE
DID YOU WANT A METAL CONDOM TO TEAR YOUR DICK OFF BY WAY OF BEING SLAMMED THROUGH YOUR PELVIS
BECAUSE IF YOUR DICK'S NOT INSIDE IT
IT'S GOING TO BE
IN
THE
WAY
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>>52216581
you think its bad because the armor autists were btfo by factual evidence of sperg anon
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>>52216556
God damnit, I'm taking the bait.
Presenting your opponent's argument as something other than what it actually is, and then attacking that caricature of their argument you have created instead of their actual argument, is the literal definition of a strawman. The repeated autistic screeching contained within the posts >>52216570
>>52216502
>>52216441
>>52216406
>>52216347
>>52216330
>>52216292
>>52216263
Doesn't even come close to addressing anything I have actually said. Maybe instead of attacking nonexistent arguments, this poster could address posts like >>52216368.
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>>52216580
>Not showing off in battle
Peasant, swerve.
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>>52216599
>like minded individuals interacting with one another in reasonable discourse
>ROFLOLOLOLLOLOLOL XD ALL CAPS

I fail to see the option to choose here.

>>52216614
A few pictures with zero context is factual evidence?

Hellenic armor has little to do with medieval armor and no, no one was saying a female PC in ancient Rome should be running around in full plate. The full plate armor could have just as easily been for parade or tournaments or just a fucking joke. The owner could easily switch out to a reasonable codpiece when time for proper battle. Regardless, the codpiece doesn't impact personal protection as much as wearing a skirt in the era of full plate or wearing half a breastplate. Nor does it explain why every female character in a setting has cups in their armor and not just a few wealthy noble ladies that want to show off. Even straightlaced female knights/paladins are often depicted wearing armor their male coutnerparts would never wear.
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>>52216657
>Regardless, the codpiece doesn't impact personal protection as much as wearing a skirt in the era of full plate
A skirt doesn't impact personal protection at all either.

>Even straightlaced female knights/paladins are often depicted wearing armor their male coutnerparts would never wear.
Literal nipple armor.
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>>52216512
>>52216527
The thing is dong armor looks like it never saw battle any time, look at the shape it is in. So I have ask is there any proof that kind of armor saw fighting? In games and stuff we see women wearing boob plate do fighting and stuff.
>>52216599
So you have nothing to add to the thread and you are a retard?
>>52216614
Sir yellalot of the fag lands has yet to prove that dong armor has done anything other than being at parties and stuff like that.
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>>52216690
>not wearing armor doesn't impact personal protect at all

Anon, please, please, not like this. If all of your enemies come to battle in full plate then you are only hurting yourself by not doing the same. You can make it work if your character is too poor to afford a full suit and she prefers the freedom of a skirt, but there isn't much else to excuse it.

Also, I wasn't aware every single male paladin had nipples on his chestplate. The more you learn, huh.
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>>52216468
Nobody else was talking about that kind of armor until you brought it up. This thread was about contoured breastplate for women, if anything.
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>>52216770
It was, until autists with lack of reading comprehension came
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>>52216358
It's to keep your clothes from brushing up against your tender syphilis dick.
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>>52216611
Obviously the purpose is to hold cushioning and herbs to reduce the pain caused by your rotting syphilitic dick bouncing around in a saddle
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Well if you want a real life example, this is what women wear for fencing.
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>>52216967

And that's still sexy as fuck.
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>>52215652
This looks fucking whack.
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shame to see your boob bleed ..... or would it be ? ......mmmmmmm......
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>>52216967
you're kind of forgetting about the rest of the outfit there, champ
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>>52216712
>The thing is dong armor looks like it never saw battle any time, look at the shape it is in.
It's not impossible to repair a dong of metal, only one of flesh ;-;
>So I have ask is there any proof that kind of armor saw fighting?
Not that I know of. It wouldn't be unreasonable though.

>>52216747
>Anon, please, please, not like this. If all of your enemies come to battle in full plate then you are only hurting yourself by not doing the same.
You could wear your armor under your skirt.

>Also, I wasn't aware every single male paladin had nipples on his chestplate. The more you learn, huh.
To be precise, space vampire paladins do.

>>52215652
The fuck is Kino?
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>>52217062
>>52216989
>>52216967

It only lets you post one picture at a time dude. Is this your first day?
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>>52217014
Keijo is pretty whack yeah
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>>52217097
I assume guys dont get the similar kind of action?
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>>52215652
*Unsheaths nipple*
Pssh
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>>52217066
All of the armor looks like it never saw combat not just the dong part. Maybe you go right for the cock but most of the time warriors aim for places like chest or the head.
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>>52217170
Repairing it isn't impossible. Besides the people who could afford ornate armor like that usually weren't on the frontline.
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>>52217135

Nope, female only sport.
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>>52217135
Since its a sports anime about the noble sport of butt battling, no they don't. Because like most high school sports its a gender segregated team. Maybe somewhere in that world there's a men's Keijo team but they aren't the focus of the narrative
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>>52217196
>they aren't the focus of the narrative
So it's pushing a certain narrative, yeah?
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>>52217218
its a story, so yes it has a narrative that it expects the audience to follow. I assume that could be construed as "pushing". I don't quite get what you're implying anon
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>>52217245
>its a story, so yes it has a narrative that it expects the audience to follow. I assume that could be construed as "pushing". I don't quite get what you're implying anon
You dense motherfucker.
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>>52217186
>the people who could afford ornate armor like that usually weren't on the frontline
That is my point, those that use this kind of armor at most stayed away from most of the fighting if they were on the battlefield at all as far as I can tell.
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>>52217307
Why are you so put off anon?
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>>52217350
Because you're a shitlord anon, and shitlords cannot be tolerated in a society built on tolerance.
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>>52210694
argument invalid
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>>52217516
>Mage casts clothing into baby oil spell
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>>52217451
Kill this meme.
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Boobs would actually give a bit of extra padding to bludgeoning blows. Sure you got to extend the plate a bit but it shouldnt be more restricting than a sports bra
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>>52215652
>minmaxing initiative in an erp game
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>>52217451

Armor started getting phased out because guns rendered it mostly ineffective.
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>>52210694
You can bind breast, you know....
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>>52217533
Ah, the old "knock"+"grease" combo. Classic.
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>>52217680
Not really, more that it became uneconomical. Early musketeers still used cuirasses and helmets that could reasonably deflect bullets but when armies shifted from fuedal hosts and mercenaries to professional and conscript armies it just wasn't worth armoring so peasant who could barely march in formation when you had a good 100k more to equip. Also the smoke made bright colored uniforms absolutely vital and keeping metal paintes and dry is a pain.

Mind you, I doubt a .70 calibet ball to a angled breastplate would feel good, but it was phased out for more practical reasons.
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>>52216502

If boobplate was bronze you'd have a point.

It isn't.

Bronze crumples to absorb hits to doing stuff like sculpting abs/nipples/boobs in is fine. Swords don't catch and it'll still keep you from suffocating to death in the maniple.

Boobplate tends to be steel, tho, so the argument doesn't work.

Boobplate is also far more egregious than The Codpiece of Doom.
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>>52217451

Logistics, dipshit.
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>>52217749
>Boobplate is also far more egregious than The Codpiece of Doom.
I'd say the codpiece is more egregious.
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>>52217680
>Armor started getting phased out because guns rendered it mostly ineffective.

Firearms not only would render armour ineffective, but actually armour would make firearms MORE effective, as if by chance the projectile had enough force to exit the body, it would just ricochet off the armour and bounce around in the body... causing even more damage.

>more expensive
>heavy, slows you down
>makes your enemies weapons more effective
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>>52216368
Boob plates look pretty awesome, desu. I mean, I get it, it drives blows into the center of the breastplate instead of deflecting them- but so do pecplates and we saw those being used highly. Even a well placed spear thrust will not pierce a plate breastplate, probably wont even dent it.

When it comes to foot mounted infantry, city guards, or other people who aren't armored for war- I definetly can see the boobplate being used, women do like to like to show off their figures and be attractive, and especially for stuff like city guards and bodyguards, hell I could even see a female general having a boobplate made just for the ornate nature and recognizeability of it.

I can't see mounted knights using them though, an enemy lance would be perfectly guided to the boobplate wearers heart most of the time and promptly impale and kill them.
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>>52216311
it was so expensive that we are pretty sure it was used.
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>>52217365
I'm a different anon, anon, I just don't understand what's got your goat.
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>>52217878
Are you a white male? Then you're a shitlord.
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>>52217863
Or it was too expensive to let be damaged in battle.
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>>52217884
DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY LORDSHIP
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>>52217842
which is why modern soldiers don't wear armor... oh wait

full plate was quite effective against muskets at the time, and even against modern small arms it would be still significantly better than having no protection at all. Low caliber/velocity rounds ('it's only 9mm' meme) might not penetrate especially if struck at an angle, and a high velocity large caliber depleted uranium round is going to tear a hole through you large enough to fit a golfball through regardless.

full plate was phased out because armies started getting larger and traveling longer distances. Armor is also really expensive, far more so than a rifle. It was deemed not worth it.
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>>52217571
wait, that pic isn't correct?
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>>52217749
If bronze crumples, then would it make an effective armor, to have a decent layer of steel, backed up by a slim, but not ineffective layer of bronze, & then thin yet durable padding? If so, it should help catch an enemies weapon, further slow down its momentium, & offer easier quick repairs (hammer out the bronze & do a quick patch on the ruptured steel) You'd need less padding & maybe even be lighter/less bulky
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>>52217884
When i was born i was labeled an chinese woman, i identify as a white male. Please dont trigger me further by assuming my gender is inferior to yours & check your Outrage Privilege
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>>52217918
not in the slightest
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>>52217845
>look pretty awesome
i always hear this, it all boils down to "it looks awesum" as an excuse, like some impenetrable defense

so in the end of the day, people will still pic what looks good despite all the arguments and debate about immersion, realism, being practical, etc.

>pic
why do you have to post that?
why do you have to remind me of what fire emblem has become? ;_;
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>>52217195
>Infinite Ass Works

Holy God in Heaven, is this why You created Japan?
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>>52218020
*pick
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>>52218025
thats the gate of assalon, you idiot.
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>>52217916
>which is why modern soldiers don't wear armor... oh wait

Armyfag here.

Most of the protective equipment we wear is NOT to stop bullets, it's to stop random shit like shrapnel, other flying debris.

Yes, we do sometimes put plates into our vests to stop bullets. However, lets say you're wearing a plate on the front and the back of your body, you have to make sure those plates are straight on, at a perpendicular angle to the potential incoming fire (ie, not standing at an angle to reduce the size of your profile/target you're presenting to your enemy), BECAUSE if you do angle your plates, you'll turn a simple bullet passing right through you into a bullet that will ricochet through your body between your plates, which means you're fucked.
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>>52218056
>Most of the protective equipment we wear is NOT to stop bullets, it's to stop random shit like shrapnel, other flying debris.

And also to stop stupid shit. If people weren't wearing helmets, I would have seen so many injuries due to shovels/other people's weapons/not ducking down enough while going under a fallen tree or through a fence/etc lol.

And while ballistic eye wear, as it sounds, protects your eyes from shrapnel (or your fire team partner's casings if they're standing too close to you), they do FAR MORE to protect your eyes from fucking tree branches.

Just a couple fun facts.
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>>52216967

Fencing has a weird risk profile, though. Most fencing gear is either designed to avoid abrasions or to prevent a broken sword from entering an eye socket or lung. That creates some weirdness compared to the risk profile on a battlefield.
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>>52210694
Honestly? I doubt it's a huge deal either way. Certainly not the design flaws that some people love playing it up to be, as if every sword thrust will zip straight to the heart. MAYBE the slope of the breasts might prove beneficial, however the result would depend on angle and force applied. Any deflection or sliding across a surface with friction would weaken any attack. It's as much a crapshoot as anything else. Trying to stab or slice across an armored chest, boob plate or not, is rarely the best kind of attack.

Looking for historical examples is largely an exercise in futility given women combatants, though not unheard of, has never ever been as high as the number of men involved. There's a lot of social pressures against it. Hell, women have only recently been cleared as active combatants in the field. I would hazard in the past women typically did not call attention to themselves (not the same as outright pretending to be men, as that's largely apocryphal about Joan of Arc outside of one known instance when crossdressing was used to travel incognito) and would most likely have relied on equipment available for men. In a fantasy world where men and women have martial equality? Yeah, you'd probably see more stylized gear For Her as we've historically seen For Him.

Yeah, I'm doing a lot of supposition. No sense writing a thesis on this subject which is eternally argued here. Still, just as much "evidence" as that dumbass article on tor.com that people love to throw around proving boob plate will get you killed. There's a lot of shit in war that will get you killed, that's kind of the point. Boob armor doesn't rate high at all in my estimation.
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>>52218197
That's a lot of words to justify fetish armor.
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>>52218197
I myself don't buy entirely into boob plate being a death sentence, but that's not what makes boob plate retarded in a setting that tries to take itself seriously. Armor for a soldier is going to be made for the most common body types and no one is going to waste time measuring every female soldier's cup size to make it work. Likewise, a professional warrior will likely want a professional look and not like a jackass that wondered onto a battlefield by mistake.

Like the codpieces in this thread, if a rich noblewoman wants to stroke her ego then by all means depict her wearing boob plate alongside her husband's giant codpiece. But unless your paladin belongs to a very specific religious order, she should have a proper breastplate.
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>>52218263
If "fetish armor" is all you got from that it's clear you didn't even read half those words. Unless you have a fetish for imagining fetishes, in which case, well, you're on 4chan so you're in the best place to explore your twisted nature and isolate yourself from society.
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>>52218279
There are two issues. First is that you make the assumption about a setting trying to take itself seriously, which honestly isn't a given. Especially when a good 95% of RPGs is rule of cool shit. Second is the assumption of professional soldiers, which honestly is only a subset of adventuring types anyway. PCs are just the type to have custom shit.

If we're talking about the real world, sure, that very much tries to take itself seriously most of the time. We can largely only look at the way history tells us the world was, it's very much open to argument when we imagine how it might have been different under different circumstances. But then fantasy games and reality often don't see eye to eye anyway.
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>>52218037
>Not Gate of Bootylon
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>>52218284
Boobplate has no purpose except for being sexy, and saying that "oh well these dangerous aspects of it aren't that bad" is just avoiding the purpose of armor. If you want to call it ornamental or something, ok sure there's plenty of examples of ornamental armor/aspects of armor that adds nothing but danger for the wearer for the sake of "looking nice", but in this case it's ornamental specifically for sex appeal. It's fetish gear.
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>>52218358
Then what's the point in trying to justify it, if the setting isn't trying to take itself seriously in the first place?
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>>52216308
>Hair: Yes
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>>52218175
>And also to stop stupid shit
I'm pretty sure the average servicemember would find a way to injure himself in an empty padded room.
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>>52218408
Okay, we get it. You think boobs are only sexual and prefer warrior women dress as men. That's your fetish and that's okay. Own it as it own's you. But trying to frame your argument as "oh well these dangerous aspects of it aren't that bad" because that, somehow, defeats the purpose of armor when in reality as long as it protects then armor is working as intended. Maybe if you COULD prove it is a dangerous aspect you'd have a leg to stand on, but claiming historical armor when historically 99.999999% of combatants have been male and thus the implements of war designed for men, well no shit you're not going to find a lot of examples.
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>>52218466
This DESU boob plates make it easier to breastfeed children mid battle especially if they have metal nipples.
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>>52218020
Even if the armor is totally unrealistic, you can't deny how beautiful the new Fire Emblem art style is.

And my argument is that outside of mounted lance cavalry against mounted lance cavalry, the disadvantage of a boobplate is negligble, directed towards your heart or not a sword will never pierce a breastplate.

Also clearly Sumia and Cordelia dont have functional armor, but the boobplate isnt even close to the biggest issue with their sets.
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>>52218466
What makes you think armor designed for women would logically end in boob plates?
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>>52218358
The problem with the idea of "rule of cool" is where does it end? Can I use rule of cool to justify my naked warrior having similar defensive values as someone in full plate?

I didn't assume anything. If my wording wasn't clear I'll spell it out. If the setting you are playing is one giant joke like Paranoia, knock yourself out. It's all good there, but if you are playing a game that takes itself seriously. Where immersion and realism are heavily linked, even in the obviously fantasy elements, then you have to think twice about how you do things.

If your character is the kind to wear boob plate then do it. There is nothing sexist about that (without more details at least). But if your setting is one where women want to do nothing, but show off their tits and ass, even on the battlefield where none of their male counterparts do the equivalent, then it is sexist. You can make it work for individual cases, but not the whole setting without an explanation unless you want the game to just be one joke without limits.

>>52218466
Armor is designed for gender mate. It's designed for war. Most warriors didn't have their armor customized to look good (too expensive), but to maximize protection. Female guards should not have boob plate. Female warriors that put the battle ahead of themselves should not have boob plate. An adventurer that is a giant flirt and a strong fighter can have boob plate if it fits the rest of the character.

It depends, but the default is a generic breastplate and anything else should be justified through setting details or roleplay.
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>>52218433
Two issues again. Why would it need justifying? And given there are degrees of seriousness/silliness there will always be a sliding scale where a setting may fall. Depending on certain groups/GMs how serious or silly a setting is shift during a campaign.

At any rate if you've seen this thread then you're pretty much seen every argument on this subject, a topic that will never be resoled but eternally argued, and thus will never die. In most respects it isn't the setting you need to worry about, it's the players arguing about it just like this.
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What kind of helmet would wear an humanoid with horns like a tiefling?
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>>52218512
What makes you think that was ever a suggestion of where it will "end"? The real problem of boob plate is the massive spergouts that occur over just the topic itself.
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>>52218515
>Armor is designed

Suppose to be isn't, if it wasn't obvious.

>>52218518
>again

Don't assume every reply is from the same person, anon.

>Depending on certain groups/GMs how serious or silly a setting is shift during a campaign.

I agree with you on this. It depends on the group, but that doesn't mean we can't discuss our preferences in the respective threads as appropriate.
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>>52218502
>>52218512
>>52218515
Women like looking pretty and sexy, a powerful woman very well might sexualize her armor even if it made it less effective. Women like their boobs, shocking I know.
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>>52218541
>What makes you think that was ever a suggestion of where it will "end"?
The fact that you're advocating for boob plate in a thread about boob plate, and saying that historical armor is irrelevant to the discussion because it was overwhelmingly made for men?
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>>52218567
Absolutely true. For about 90% of the women I know, it doesn't matter the orientation if it deals with boobs, they love boobs. Theirs and others, provided they don't have a sexually competitive viewpoint.
Then they just love their boobs.
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>>52218557
>Don't assume every reply is from the same person, anon.
That "again" doesn't require you be the same anon, it's part of the topic of a very recent part of this thread's conversation.
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>>52218567
I'm the anon that wrote the third reply.

Don't be a cheeky git. I explicitly state that a woman that is the kind to wear boob plate should if it fits the rest of her character. The assumption that literally every woman would value showing off her tits and not being the best guard/soldier/warrior that she could be is sexist.

Men like their dicks, but they don't tend to show them off in the middle of a battle aside from a very few, rare exceptions.

>>52218603
Lot of assumptions for roughly half of the human population here.

>>52218605
I apologize if it appeared as an argument in bad faith. Other anons are willfully ignoring solid counterpoints because their feel self-conscious about their fetish. You seem fairly reasonable so I appreciate your part of the discussion, but the narrow minded thinking of others is ruining this thread for me.
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>>52218567
This isn't usually what's discussed in these threads though. If you make one specific character wear boob plates for a reason that's different than defaulting to boob plate

Then again, this has never came up in my games. Going off the gritty atmosphere they tend to have I just assume everyone's wearing normal armor
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Boobs are weird quirk of evolution product of humans evolving into a bipeds thus no longer see butts all the time. It is sexual replacement for butts.
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>>52218573
If the threshold for "advocating" is that it probably doesn't matter either way and historical "evidence" is so largely skewed for men and thus won't provide many data points (and not all data points we do have are necessarily reliably accurate) then...I guess?

This is more of a shrug than anything. I mostly find it interesting, and self defeating, when people go on at length about how boob shapes in armor will somehow equal instant fatalities anything a lady is attacked. And as for history, unless the tabletop game you are running is a strict historical recreation format then that probably doesn't matter. Beyond that the choice of whether to embrace boob plates or not is ultimately up to players and their respective GMs.
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I'll take "/tg/ and Boobplate" for 300, Alex.

>A logical point that completely refutes the OP's point and is completely absent from this thread.

What is a gambeson?
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>>52218515
>The problem with the idea of "rule of cool" is where does it end? Can I use rule of cool to justify my naked warrior having similar defensive values as someone in full plate?
If you know the history of D&D and the inspiration for it then brave warriors with little armor and big muscles who still triumph has been the bread and butter of the game. Barbarians aside the basic idea of wizards not being able to use armor (at least alongside their spells) is that they have mystical abilities to compensate. So yes a wizard running buck naked with a stone skill spell is quite legal, if you're thus inclined that is.

>Armor is designed for gender mate. It's designed for war.
Ignoring the obvious typo because it's clear what you meant, armor is intended for protection against violence (war or otherwise) and ultimately is designed for the wearer. The shape of the person the armor is intended for plays an undeniable factor. Women and men are roughly proportional and men's gear can typically fit or be modified for women, and tit binding is certainly an option. Unless a woman is seriously well-endowed it probably wouldn't be a huge problem, so to speak, and padding under the armor can make it more comfortable, etc.

The thing is this isn't a matter of whether boob plate must exist. Even if it could be justified that doesn't mean it must exist. My interest in the topic is more the shrieking insistence from certain people that boob plate must never exist, which I find fascinating. At least enough to engage in the discussion, which I largely find self-defeating. End of the day this is not a topic that can be won because people will never agree one way or the other and each side has its points (some with merit, some suspect) and they will tenaciously cling to them. This is a topic that will always come up over and over again on /tg/. Hell, this week I recall one about bikini armor and another about a BBEG with skimpy armor that invites much of the same arguments.
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>>52218802
This is one of those topics that easily infects other threads if it comes up. I remember a Shadowrun thread where someone flipped his shit because someone posted a pic where a medic's armor had boobs. Goddamn Shadowrun of all things. Dragon businessmen, ninja elves, and all manner of crazy cyborgs but a pair of tits was too much for someone.
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>>52217863
That's some shit logic right there. Some piece of shit wall-hanger can be expensive, doesn't mean it's been used in battle. Pretty sure rich people spending way too much money on decorative shit has been a thing since we've had rich people and decorative shit.
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>>52218802
>If you know the history of D&D...

I acknowledge that and it is true. It depends on the game. What I mean by "take itself seriously" is tone. If the game you are playing focuses on realism, even when it comes to things like magic and dragons, then boob plate should not be the default. If your game is campy or a throwback of some kind, then it's okay. Boob plate is probably the least unrealistic aspect in those games.

>Ignoring the obvious typo...
I agree with your statements here.

>The thing is this isn't a...

I agree that the idea of boob plate never existing doesn't make much sense to me as well. Even if it was proven to be a fatal mistake, there would still be idiots willing to wear it to battle just to stroke their ego. Women can be just as headstrong as men. Female warriors would be especially so. I just find it frustrating when folks try to justify boob plate as if it would be the default in real life. It's okay if you build a setting for it, but sincerely believing real women would care more about showing off their body than surviving the battle is just plain retarded. If your setting is based on real life in regards to armor, then boob plate should not be the default just like how fancy codpieces were not the default for real male warriors.

As I believe it was you who said before, it depends on the game and the group playing it.

>>52218948
Those elements are not the same thing. You can have a dragon businessman and play it perfectly straight without irony. Wearing boob plate in a game without a bit of irony in it is more questionable. Imagine ninja wearing crocs in a very serious game and no one ever thinks to question it.

If you are playing a non-serious or only partly serious game, it's cool, but it's strange in a serious game to have such a campy element.
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I was expecting to find more cheesecake here.
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>>52218515
>The problem with the idea of "rule of cool" is where does it end? Can I use rule of cool to justify my naked warrior having similar defensive values as someone in full plate?
Honestly, as long as it was mechanically the same I'd allow it, like magic bodypaint or something that acted as fullplate for reasons would be perfectly fine for me
Long as the crunch is balanced and the lore's internally consistent I don't give a shit how you fluff things
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>>52213650
>So even without boobplate or armored skirts or high heels for infantry, there should still be some visible difference between a man in armor and a woman in armor

such changes would fall under general fitting. Individual plates aren't going to need to change shape (other than maybe a slightly more bowed breastplate for truely extreme mammeries).
unless youre examinging with a tape measure you're not going to be able to distinguish between a mans and a womans plate harness.
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>>52216311
yeah. though evidence suggests only by officers and the like.
The rank and file plebs got by with plain smooth chestplates.
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>>52217922
Anything going through your steel plate isn't going to give a shit about a layer of bronze either.
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>>52217922
composites work when you combine 2 materials of different properties.
a breastplate of 2 layers one steel the other bronze is going to be both worse performing aswell harder and more expensive to produce than a pure steel breastplate of the same weight.
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>>52216324
>She's underage
IIRC, she's like 16 at the start of the show and somewhere in her early 20s by the end.
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Is it really that important to protect chest area? Didn't japanese armors for peasants focus on protecting abdomens?
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>>52220846
Your heart and lungs are pretty important.
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>>52220846
Generally most armor tries to protect as much of the torso as possible. Both chest and stomach.
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>>52211141
She actually wears armor, though?
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>>52211398

>"I have literally never seen a bow irl" the post
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>>52217749

>Bronze crumples to absorb hits

Nigga what. Bronze is basically as strong as steel. We switched to steel because tin is rare as fuck and iron is everywhere.
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>>52218025
>Infinite Ass Works
Triggered
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>>52216263
>>52216292
>nipples
>on armor
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>>52218056
And that's why actual combat units that are in for the long haul wear side plates as well.
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>>52218390
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>>52217916
The problem is also that penetration power got way up. A modern assault rifle will most likely tear through medieval and renaissance plate armor.
Wich is why bulletproof armors use small thick plates rather than a complete thick bulletproof breastplate wich would be way to heavy.

Though complete armor might make a comeback with exoskeletons. I guess infantrymen will just throw rockets at each other when we get to that point.
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>>52217451
Ahahaha what? Guerilla war, in a state of total war, is only effective if you have a regular army backing it up, at which point it's basically ad-hoc special forces. Otherwise you're a load of guys with rifles fighting an actual army with tanks that's okay with annihilating you.
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>>52221048
It's actually a good example because her huge tits fit just fine in a reasonably sized breastplate.
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>>52218537
Hold on, I think he's trying to communicate.
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>>52210694
Yes. I love them.
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>>52216368
Nah, you are just pissed off that people are uninterested in your armchair logic and bullshit.
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It makes me very happy to see that in a time of Charlotte's and THICCposting, we can still have a shitstorm about the old boobplate. So much has changed since the first time I came to /tg/, in the times prior even to the 4e vs 3.5 edition wars, and the rise of pathfinder. But with all that came and go; Quests, Smut threads (later to become weekend smut threads and then finally banned), magical realm posting and bait threads (which were before just weird sperging about 'muh fetish' before they gained a unified flag to shitpost under), it's very refreshing to see that the good old boobplate can still stir our spirits. It's good to see we have not become too jaded to stop foaming from the mouth as we talk about a topic with understand little of, with people who understand none of it.

I'd like to propose a toast the the good old days and to the fact that in despite of all the changes in the world, somethings will always remain.

Huzzah.
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>>52210694
I'm just going to respond to that question. Boobs are very squishy, and a chestplate is not skintight. Unless they really have gigantic breasts (in which case they are most likely obese and unfit to fight), it should be fine. I know fit women can also have big breasts, but for them to start being incommodating, you'd really need the kind only obesity can give.
I don't even think you'd need to bind them unless they're very big, given that the breastplate's shape should provide a binding of sorts.
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>>52222237
If a woman, even not obese, has such huge breasts that no proper armor fit her, than she's just unfit to fight in armor. it's as simple as that. Like you had a guy with freakishly proportions, i dont expect him to be recruited in the army and have armor custom made. We just assume that huge cow tits on broomstick women is more normal because of how much that's drawn and shown to us. But tits tend to be small. They just do. And fit women with tits tend to have smaller ones still, sometimes none at all, for those with like 8% body fat. So..You know...If you have cow tits, maybe you aren't soldier material.
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>>52221048
Ant-man go away
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>>52213590
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>>52222264
Yeah, I was thinking of "upper normal human range" big breasts, not anime ones. You're not going to find those kinds of physics on a person who hasn't had surgery of some kind, or health problems.
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>>52222524
... of physiques. Not physics. Although weird physics tend to go with them, I guess.
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>>52216473
>Did dong armor see battle?
Yeah all the time, the enlarged codpeice didn't get in the way and was fashion for a while.
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>>52210694
It may help to distract the enemy, if there's some young, horny guys with lots of emotions running through them and they suddenly see breasts then they could be thrown/ falter for a moment which let you take the vital strike.
[Spoiler] Or I might just be talking out my ass here, pick whatever sounds better. [/spoiler]
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>>52210694
No not at all the actually solution is to get women off the battlefield.
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>>52222999
Did you know that you can make spoilered text by selecting the text you've typed and pressing Ctrl+S?
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>>52223181
Thanks, I was (legit) wondering how to do that, I'm on the iPad now but next time I'll do it that way.
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>>52223225
No probs. Also your attempt in >>52222999 was otherwise correct, save for the capital S in the first tag.
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>>52223225
>>52223244
Whoops, didn't mean to spoiler that last bit, was trying to type "[ spoiler ] tag" (without the spaces inside the brackets) and forgot that having the starting tag is enough for spoilering to happen.
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Boobplate armor is less unrealistic than women fighting
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>>52211178
>Archers = death to armored knights
This trope has to go.

>Muh Agincourt
Poor tactics is what lost Agincourt for France. Remember that the English themselves expected to be defeated and King Henry praised God for his victory.
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>>52214421
>and lost outright
So did the english

Napoleon lost aswell

I dont fucking understand any of your logic
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>>52219066
>Imagine ninja wearing crocs in a very serious game and no one ever thinks to question it.
Don't you diss Hero-Crocs. That shit is AMAZING for keeping your footing on bloody flooring.
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>>52221971
>"Daddy, what's Vietnam?"
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>>52222999
They'll probably be angry, not horny.
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>not getting your AC from dex and dodge bonus rather than armor
Boob plate means the woman is confident in her fighting skills
Cowards hide behind metal
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>>52218639
Do you know those medieval "elf shoes" people used to wear? That was people saying "mah dick is THIS long!" Codpieces exist. Banana hammocks exist. Stuffing of banana hammocks exist. I think you underestimate just how much humanity likes their dangly bits.
Strange though it may seem: a lot of people are very interested in sex, and in trying to show off how good they are at it.
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>>52223596
>We'll only talk about it if you tell me what the NVA is son
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>>52210954
boobs are /very/ squishy unless they're fake
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>>52216441
What a huge baby.
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>>52214164
>tfw no probationary flier
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>>52218506
They ride on flying pegasus all day. I say the skirt & long boots are somewhat justifiable.
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>>52224044
but would it be comfortable to fight with squished boobies? Aren't they also tender?
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>>52221407
>Ass techs
>Aztecs
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>>52223630

Boobplate is going to give you like -4 DEX though.
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>>52225900
See, that's why you ditch the boobplate
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>>52214946
>its gaining speed as it descended on its arching path

Thats not how physics works
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>>52213649
This. Kerry had a hard life damn it.
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