/hhg/ - Horus Heresy General

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First for the First

Second for the Second. Victims of the Rangda, gone and forgotten.

A question. For a Knight, would it be better to retain melee D or go full Crusader and rely on Stomp instead?

>>52204952
Stomp only does something against marines if you roll a 6 on the stomp table. Otherwise it's just some Str 6 ap 4 hits which marines don't care that much about.

>>52200068
>>52200094
>>52203414
Sad part is that if you look at some of the images in Inferno, FW just slapped MkVII SW arms onto some of the models, regardless of the armour they had.

How are Sister of Silence models in ass department?

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>>52205025
they don't have a lot of ways to represent space wolf armouries producing artificer armour.

>>52205122
no ass unfortunately, and it's behind a cape. Not much scope for modelling either since the rear is encased by plates of armour.

>>52205165
How do they represent AA for other legions? SW got the same torsos and pads everyone else gets. They just don't have heads available to them. And how do MkVII arms on a MkII make it AA? Or a MkVII torso and arms on a MkIII make it AA?

Anyone with any skill should be able to just put MkVII hands onto the arms of other marks.

>>52205204
Damn, than i should wait for plastic aspect warriors.

I know it isn't directly comparable since Assassins are 40k only for now, but rulewise, Culexus and Sisters, which one is better anti-Psyker choice?

>>52205222
well the 40k grey hunter armour is explicitly made on fenris, it has gold trim and wolf emblems on it. Other legions either fit perfectly with the marks of armour like death guard and mark III or can use the head crests to look graeco-roman like ultras or they get full conversion kits like thousand sons.

>>52205322
probably the Culexus, since it it has permanent Invisibility.

>RATINGS FOR CUSTODES WITH LEGIONES ASTARTES RULES
Because why the fuck not.

>DA
F. No benefit from swords (nobody takes them on custodes) and small numbers + giving away VPs if outnumbered is awful.

>EC
C. Better sweeping is handy, but custodes already have higher initiative than most stuff they fight.

>IW
B. The enemy has to kill every model to stop the custodes getting into combat, which is useful.

>WS
C. Partial rerolls to wound when you charge is handy I guess.

>SW
B. Makes your dudes run faster.

>IF
D. Does make the bolters on the spears better, but who gives a shit about those?

>NL
D. Custodes are unlikely to outnumber the enemy, even being bulky.

>BA
A. Wounding on a 2+ rather than a 3+ is the shit.

>IH
S. S10 pieplates (vindicators, medusas) no longer instant death custodes. And the sweeping thing is less of a disadvantage given custodes' leadership.

>WE
B. Would be higher if they could get rage easier. Rerolls on the charge still good though.

>UM
C. Interlocking tactics is a nice bonus, but custodes probably won't have enough units on the field to really get the most out of it.

>DG
A. Phosphex becoming 50% less effective is great, especially on high T models.

>TS
A. Raptora custodes have a 4++ on their basic dudes. Nuff said.

>SOH
A. Unlike NL, they need to outnumber at the end of the combat to get the bonus, i.e. after you've whittled the enemy down with your non-unwieldy AP2 weapons.

>WB
E. Don't give them anything especially.

>Sal
E. Flamers aren't a huge problem for custodes, and the sweeping thing is awful for a melee army.

>RG
B. Infiltrate and fleet are pretty great for an army that wants to be in combat.

>AL
B. There's a lot of good options there, made better with some of the toys custodes get.

>>52205448
>(nobody takes swords on custodes)

huh? sentinel guard are one of their best units.

>>52205448
SoH: What non-unwieldy AP2 weapon are you talking about? IIRC their Legion special weapon was shitty wannabe-Rending bullet.

>>52205492
>>52205448
Nevermind. I read it wrong. I need to go to bed I guess.

>>52205463
Maybe, but not because of their swords.

What (conversion) bits would you guys use to represent Abeyant?

>>52205602
better than guardian spears at any rate.

How do i into World Eaters?

>>52205780
CHAINAXES, SON.

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>>52205816

>>52205816
>>52205971
I mean, in the end, the whole thing is about whether or not you pay your chainaxes if you modeled them right?

Unless you play against a WAACfag, why would you not give them chainaxes on their models? It looks great! Sure you have to buy them, but there's plenty of 3rd parties that makes them. I'm thinking about getting the Anvil Industries ones for my Charcharodons for example.

>>52206021
I play WE and pay for chainaxes on tacs as free S6 is still amazing for 2ppm

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Now I understand why the paintings guides don't show how to paint eyes lenses normally, with a white dot and all.

>>52206436
Isn't the "white dot" the reflection of light? If so, keep in mind the direction if the light source when painting. Right now you have it coming from both left and right.

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>>52206471
I don't think so, I mean, pretty much every tutorial about eyes lenses makes you out a dot in each corner of the eye.

Very quick photo cropped photo of another marine I painted. In this one it looks much better imo. The eye lense has an actual corner.

I'm trying to get the pitch black Charcharodons eyes, so I just put some Nuln oil Gloss and a white dot. Pondering wether or not to put some grey highlights, I'll have to try on a test model.

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Daily reminder that Magnus did everything wrong
>be cocky fucking shit
>sell your legions souls to Tzeentch
>fugg up the Golden Throne trying to tattle
>most likely doom Terra and humanity as a whole with that move
>instead of surrendering to Russ, let your planet and legion get destroyed
>reeeeee into the warp to avoid facing justice
>join Chaos instead of just killing yourself

>>52206534
Don't forget
>basically get told by Lorgar that he's going to go find some warp-entities to worship
>for some reason don't tattle on this occasion

>>52206436
well you've got to work up to the colour, and most transparent materials don't produce a perfectly white reflection either. A long lens tends to reflect a horizontal line in the top and corner of the lens.

>>52206587
To be fair that is Lorgar who is kind of iffy. I wouldn't be surprised if Magnus viewed Lorgar as the most stupid of his brothers, only surpassed by Angron.

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>>52206534
>When you see a meme image you created quite a while ago in active use

My life is complete.

>>52206534
>>52206587
>be cocky fucking shit
all the primarchs were, startign with the Emperor himself. He also had enough ability to back it up, and realised that if he openly displayed his doubts (which he had from his pact onwards where he lost an eye) his vision of free psykers and a psychic imperium would be over as his opponents would jump on his insecurity.

>sell your legions souls to Tzeentch
I'd say the Emperor did that, Magnus lost his eye to spare them from bearing the cost of their brief time free of the flesh change. Also we don't know what the escape from Prospero cost him.

>fugg up the golden throne
the Emperor didn't trust him, when trusting Magnus was one of the most sane things he could've done and he would've have had to do so when Magnus took up control of the GT.

>instead of surrendering to Russ
wasn't ever an option and Magnus was smart enough to know it. He also knew it'd be unjust to wipe out the wolves (which is why wrath of magnus is a comic book villain shitfest).

>reeeeee into the warp
Magnus did face justice and knows he is still neccessary to the Emperor's plans and also for screwing over Tzeentch.

>Join Chaos
again, knew that the emp winning was a shitty time for all so backed Horus.

>>52206693
The only thing Magnus did wrong was using the opportunity to forewarn the Emperor of Horus' betrayal to promote the use of sorcery. Which was understandable, but still a bad decision. If you know about a huge plot that will wipe north america off the face of the earth, you're not going to warn the goverment using tin cans and a piece of string to prove that the mobile network is overrated.

>>52206603
Logar should have snuffed Erebus at birth then no one would have 'done wrong' but all this blind Logar/Magnus did not wrong is just......
Heresy

>>52206693
Magnus, pls go

>>52206739
I think it's more of the fact he'd taken on the aspect of a Daemon Prince that confirmed how naughty Magnus had been, that and destroying the Emperor's shit that fucked him off!

>>52206779
Primarchs virtually are daemon princes, and it was only his astral projection fuelled by souls, just the same as the astronomican. You can call these things fancy names doesn't change the fact that it's just emperor sanctioned chaos.

>>52205463

>Rending is better than +1S AP2

???

>>52206938
+1 Str AP 2 is only on the charge. Rending is forever, which makes it better against things with a 2+ save.

>>52206983

Yeah, so if you get charged by terminators it's better and every other time you want the guardian spear.

>>52207001
BS2 overwatch will be good in a lot of stiuations and the shield makes sentinel guard much more survivable for basically no penalty.

>>52207001
Even if you charge, you gotta wipe out the opposing terminators in a single turn or you will be hitting the remaining terminators with a wet noodle for the coming millenia.

I just put together my Leviathan, what a beast!
Got my 'proper' Guilliman and trying to work out whether to fully build him or leave power fist arm, backpack cloak, and leave head off so I can paint it right?

Also any thoughts on here about the Mastodon? Worth getting? How do you get to use it with a Primarch?

Cheers

>>52206515
Thin your paints =]. That way you can get a fine point and not a big dot. But it's meant to represent a reflection, which means you do need to do the reverse highlighting thing (gray to white along the bottom-inside corner). The white dot can be left out if you put gloss coat on the lens.

>>52207170
>mastodon
>worth getting

is it worth putting a deposit down on a house?

>>52207382
Is the house overpriced and fragile while costing to much to keep enough stuff inside it?

>>52207382
I take it you're for it then? Cause a deposit on a house is a good thing

>>52207418
can't fit 20 space marines in a house lad.

>>52207206
>gloss coat

Different anon, but I just had a thought. Would blood for the blood God work for red lenses?

>>52207720
been discussed before, it doesn't really dry on right. Tamiya clear is the better product in any case and works well for lenses, or the gw gemstone paint.

>>52207457
Same as you can't put tea in a chocolate teapot! So you can put 40 in a Mastodon, does this make it a worthwhile exercise or a Spartan better as it means you still get to use a Primarch?

>>52207206

I much prefer a good gloss coat on things like lenses and gems to trying to paint reflections on. It's more realistic, makes the colours richer, and it's just easier.

I suppose you can think of it as being a bit like using metallic paints versus trying to paint NMM. The NMM is difficult to achieve and impressive, but to be honest it looks better in photographs than it does in real life, and the same principles applied to true metallic painting produce a better overall effect.

>>52207827
What if it's cold tea?

>>52206747
> Logar
> LOGAR
Read the fucking fluff or fuck off 40kid

>>52208062

>Lolgar Orlyan

>>52208062
What are you talking about anon? Logar Grimrelian, Wolf Primarch of the Champions of Colchis.

>>52205448
>CUSTODES WITH LEGIONES ASTARTES RULES
how? what? eh?

>>52208062
Oh go fuck yourself, phone posting so finger problems. Yes Lorgar. But then if I was like a cunt like you I'd have to trigger when everyone puts Rowboat Girlyman for my Primarch!
Chill autistic fuck!!

I've probably been gaming longer than you've lived, fucking 40kgay, I've played so many different games I'm a gaymer hobby butterfly so double fuck you

>>52208214
Also dyslexia is a barrier to spelling you cunt

>>52208214
>triggered

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>>52208252
One job, anon.

>>52208062
Haha wow, such autism

>>52208262
I'm at work so, no images.
SAD

>>52208262
Lol love it, would have worked too if it'd been done right

>>52208214
>what the fucking fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little 40gay...

>>52206436
>>52206515

Das thicc my nigga

>>52205360
More like Invisibility-lite, it doesn't force snapshots so you can still be blown the fuck up or burnt to a crisp.

>>52208309
I called you out as an bulling autistic fucking cunt!! And more a 40kid wacc player at that so you fuck off to 40kg or even awg, you mug cunt

>>52208370
>called out
>Bulling
>40kid
Reddit is that way chummer :^)

>>52208378
Hay I'm just defending myself from a twat.

I come here for Horus Heresy chat not flame wars with bellends

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World Eaters Anon, you here/still alive, or did the Nails take over?
No response to last few Emails, making sure everything is still frosty.

>>52208370
You what m8? I'll fooking neck ya, swear on me mum.

>>52208406
>being this triggered
>Not realising where you are
>not knowing when you are a silly billy who needs to let things go
Dont let the door hit you, where the good lord split you :^)

>>52208406
Anon, you're a silly goose.

>>52208419
Blah blah blah. I'll rip you head off and shit down your kneck, I'll rip your arm off and beat you to death with the wet end.

Or better off I'll challenge you to a 3000 point battle and shame you in defeat ha ha

>>52208443
*teleports behind you*
*whispers in ear*
"Sounds fun"

>>52208423
Fuck it I'll go back to lurking and try not to get involved with this community when I'm feeling shit

>>52208465
Erm that sounds oddly arousing so I'm definitely going back to lurking

does anyone have a link to the other horus heresy books on pdf?

How do you paint custard like FW does?

>>52208505
Check the OP m8

>>52208505
Right there in the fucking OP.

>>52208531
all i can see is the seventh and sixth one

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>>52208505
No.

>>52208550
Because they're the only ones that matter now. Number 6 is all the best parts of 1-5 copy and pasted to one book. 7 just came out. Have fun, man.

> Motherfucking 6 CAPTCHAS later

>>52208550
I don't know if OP's link is broken but check VK they have them there.

>>52208505
>"guise, cash you spoon-feed me? My mummy says I'm special "
Read the fucking OP and check the fucking kind before asking you mong.

For fuck's sake this community is devolving further by the day.

>>52208550
40k general's isn't broken IIRC.

>>52208609
calm down you fucking sperg the only reason im asking is because i can only get the sixth and seventh book
go be a fucking faggot some where else

>>52208620
Asking for links is a controversial topic here anon

>>52208508
Get inducted into a legion. Infiltrate FW. Eat employee's brain, learn technique.

Or email them.

https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg!Rt5ViD7S

>>52208620
>go to the OP
>click pastebin link
>check the second fucking link there
>https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ!EVh0GZZS
>navigate to FW section
>all the books are fucking there

I swear you retards are better at starting pointless arguments than at doing a completely trivial cursory search.

>>52208508
I emailed them last night, will post the answer here.

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What are some Imperial face tattoo ideas other than Aquilas? I have about 10 sisters and I need some freehand ideas.

>>52208758
Cats.

>>52208408
With the MkIV Beserkers?
He's around, just not posting here I think because he is dealing with real lift shit
Or he is just tired with the drama. But he is still plugging away.

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>>52208758
My bad

>>52208758
Dicks, one of the sisters fell asleep during a travel.

>>52208346
More than just the white? I had to do several coats for the face and all but fuck me I really tried to thin my paints everyxhere on the model.

>>52208758
The symbol for the Astra Telepathica?

>>52208758
>Eagle heads
>Emperor tramp stamp
>"Property of Big E"
>Feminazi slogans

>>52208508
>>52208739
Got an answer, yet an unsatisfying one. I specifically asked for the Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought and said that the Duncan one is too bright for my taste, here is the reply:
Thanks for contacting us. While we don't have the precise details for how our studio painter did theirs we can provide you with the colour scheme that the Warhammer World studio have used for the models on their displays which we hope can be of use to you.

Gold:

Retributor Armour, gold spray
Reikland Fleshshade Gloss, wash
Pick out some of the eagle details with Liberator Gold
Re-apply the wash where needed
Edge/line highlight with Stormhost Silver

Red:

Base coat of Khorne Red followed by adding Wazdakka red and then Fire Dragon Bright, followed by several thin washes of Carroburg crimson.

Silver:

Base coat of Leadbelcher
Followed by Iron Breaker
Thinned down Nuln Oil wash
Highlight with Runefang steel

>>52206693
>Screwing over Tzeentch

Magnus is a literal daemon of Tzeentch now. Whatever good might have once been inside him is long gone. His latest plan involved throwing his bro into hell and then trying to pop out of the Emperor's webway gate a second time to finish off papa.

>>52208796
Cool. We had been emailing because I want to buy some stuff off him, and he ghosted. Just making sure everything was cool.

>>52208987
>'good'
>in 30-40k

how sentimental of you.

>>52208983
I mean, the answer in itself is good, but i hoped they'd share the exact scheme. Although i understand, artists secret and all that.
Prolly cause they did not use citadel colours

>>52208983
Sigh. But we greatly appreciate your effort.

I think you'll have to look up non-GW golds online. There are plenty of reviews and minis to look at, and only a couple of brands that are especially known for their metallics (I might be getting these all wrong, but Secret Weapon and something 75 come to mind).

Shade with nunl oil and not a fleshshade, as someone said earlier. For highlight, Liberator Gold could actually work well - it's quite desaturated.

>>52209061
They've previously shared plenty of schemes that used Tamiya paints.

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>>52208758
Too bad they're faces are covered.

Some tattoos around their mouth to accentuate they're mute would be cool.

>>52209062
No problem, writing a short email was hardly an effort.
Yeah i guess i'll have to experiment a bit. For the record, how are the gloss shades, Nuln Oil and Agrax? Didn't try them yet.

>>52208674
>>52208677
>Massacre-684mb
>Extermination-971mb
>Retribution-631mb

Might want to pull the smaller ones.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w18xkc6478jtlhx,q9kc9hlf7fw2041,vj9e7eks1a7qbud,1q8qq6rccp0cg4k,qj9hrd33qg460rd,8aqx9j3a8erqv8d,de3l5i29kn69n73/shared

They're half the size with a fraction of the quality loss.

>>52209244
Thanks Jared!

>Imperial Fists army circa Siege of Terra with lots of MK. 7
Yea or nay?

>>52209485
This is bait.

>>52209244
>massacre - 303mb

How about 77 and change?
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6lbhc2ofh9dh2c1/The+Horus+Heresy+2+-+Massacre.pdf

>>52209485
Lots of, I'd say no. Some, why not? As long as you put emphasis on later marks and make them look like they're fighting on Terra.

>>52209522
No searchable text or bookmarks and just a tad too much fuzziness for my liking.

>>52209485
If it's clearly a Terra army (dead BA, WS, Custodian Guard on the bigger bases, stuff like that) and you have only a few veteran units in Mark 7, since there wasn't much of it, then sure. If you've clearly just taken 40k Marine kits and painted them yellow for the entire army, probably not, because that looks lazy when you even get better value out of BaC/BoP and can use those in 40k too.

>>52209485
Only if you glue them lying down on Iron Warrior bases and paint bits red.

>>52209485
Don't know. We'll tell you once there's a black book out for the siege of terra, so we can have a look at the artwork of the loyalist legions and see what they're mostly wearing.

>>52208884
Yeah, the paints are a bit thicc and the highlights a bit sloppy, keep working on it dude.

>>52209485
It's not going to be widely acceptable until a black book says it is. For now you'll just look lazy.

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Nostroman Chain Glaives are fucking weird about how they're held on the model for the ones that come with the hands. However, it could also be that I need to bend one of the arms.

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Now Im a bit sad that HH sergeants cant take a plasma blaster.

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So ... Since Magnus already turned into a daemon primarch after the teleportation to the planet of sorcerers right after the battle of Prospero ... Would people complain if I use the 40k Magnus model rather than the 30k Magnus ? Because buying a primarch model and only being able to use it in games based on the battle of prospero seems like a waste of money.

>>52210496
>volkite in 40k

okay

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>>52210493

Here's from the front with the arms adjusted a little. What should I do here? Bend the right arm (picture right)?

>>52210496
The joke is that it is only the sergant that can have a plasma blaster. You can only take a heavy flamer or reaper autocannon per 5 terminators.

>>52210545
How does it look like when you align the right hand and arm from the front ? Bit hard to judge what needs to bend from just pics

>>52210518
Only if you use the rules for the 40k model, i.e. 3/2 times the price and 1/5 as good.

>>52210518
Just tell them before hand and anyone that has a problem with it are either official GW referees or little cunts.

>>52210518
That could be pre-Prospero Magnus if you wanted.

Mags had no fixed form and could take any shape he wanted. Like the Emperor he was a gestalt mass of psychic energy. Lorgar says that nobody has ever seen what he "really" looks like.

>>52210518
problem is that it's not an equivalent base, but lorewise it's totally fine. Doubt any player would complain.

>>52210496
Well, Sicarius' predecessor had a plasma blaster and it was said to be a rare relic of a bygone era, so it would stand reason that it's no longer a squad weapon but a thing only officers get to use.

>>52210528
Where have you been?

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>>52210584

It really doesn't work. The hands are facing opposite directions.

>>52210614
I wouldn't mind also using the 40k rules.

>tfw most opponents probably wouldn't either

Any reason the Firepikes of the Aquilon Terminators are AP6, like fucking Hand Flamers?

>>52210696
Yes.

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Finished the second boxnaut

>>52210661
Looks like you'll have to dunk both arms in warm water and try to make it work somehow. Real tough one.

>>52210723
Needs more missile launchers/10

>>52210714
Do tell

>>52210723
Absolutely Intractable progress, but as >>52210754 says, needs HK missiles strapped on top/10.

>>52210769
Because they're already S6 torrent.

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>>52210661
Are you sure it's mean to be held up near the shoulder like that? Looking at this pic from the FW website, I wonder if that chainglaive isn't meant to be held lower.

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>>52210779
Yes but I can't have both HK and a havoc launcher

I'm working on my list for my first 1000 points of World Eaters. How am I doing so far, and what should I add?

(1) Legion Champion Consul - 85 points
- Master Crafted Chainaxe

(15) Legion Tactical Squad - 175 points
- Bolt Pistols and Chainaxes

(10) Legion Tactical Squad - 125 points
- Bolt Pistols and Chainaxes

(1) Contemptor Dreadnought Talon- 175 + 15
- Twin-linked volkite culverin

(5) Legion Heavy Support Squad - 135 + 25
- Autocannons

TOTAL 735/1000

>>52210940
One thing, are you planning to promote your champion to a praetor one day (i.e. use the same model)? If so, might be worth giving him something like a power sword that can easily become a paragon blade later.

>>52210813
That makes me angry.

>>52210972
At this point I was going to keep him relatively toned down to function as my Champion/Centurion for Zone Mortalis and smaller games. If I need a preator later on I'll model it from scratch.

>>52210972
Paragon Blade can be any weapon unless you want to use the good part of DA rules, Loken's model has a Paragon Chainsword.

>>52210972
If the Cataphractii 'Power axe upgrade' set is anything to go by, I don't think FW or GW cares if someone uses a Chainaxe as a Power axe.
They're your dudes >>52210940 if you want to model it with a Chainaxe do it. But please share a picture of it

>>52210794
Still does not justify them bouncing off Guardsmen. AP5 would be more reasonable

>>52211028
>that spoiler
>be me
>making DA praetor before they had rules
>on the fence about whether to give them a sword or a halberd
>thought sword would be too generic and wanted to be all special and faggy
>make a custodes style halberd/spear, because 1st from Terra
>tfw rules finally come

Bottom line, never try to be special, kids, it just ends up biting you in the ass.

>>52206436

Googly eyes

>>52210496
>better than chaos terminators
>cheaper than chaos terminators
> can even take reapers and plasma blasters
truly being chaos is suffering

>>52211119
I mean, it's not as if there's a huge number of things with WS6 and you can shoot stasis grenades at the things that do have it.

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>>52210723
>there's no brakes on the phosphex train

>>52211038
>>52210972
Thanks for the advice on the Champion, guys. What should I do with the remaining 265 points in this list? Are there units I should drop or alter?

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>>52210801

There are two of them. The one in your pic isn't the one giving me trouble. Pic related is.

>>52211271
>the inspiration for GW"s suspension-less tanks

>>52211458
For five points more than the H.Support squad you could get a bare bones Sicaran and then have better AA on a more mobile platform.
Then if you gave those five marines standard Melta guns, a rhino with a MM, you could have a suicide squad for armor.

(1) Legion Champion Consul - 85 points
- Master Crafted Chainaxe

(15) Legion Tactical Squad - 175 points
- Bolt Pistols and Chainaxes

(10) Legion Tactical Squad - 125 points
- Bolt Pistols and Chainaxes

(1) Contemptor Dreadnought Talon- 190
- Twin-linked volkite culverin

(5) Legion Support Squad - 225
- Meltaguns, Rhino+MM

(1) Legion Sicaran Battle Tank - 165

TOTAL 965/1000

Now you can spruce up the Sicaran, or play a little (drop the Rhino and reduce the first tactical squad) to add Apothecaries.

What weapons and equipment do you put on your main HQ? Archmagos, Praetor, Force Commander, Lord Marshal, Shield-Captain, Knight-Centura, all those (I think that's all of them).

Personally my Archmagos gets all the damn toys - Cyber-senpai, Abeyant, Machinator, Skein and 4 occularis, Archimandrite, Chainfist and Photon Thruster. 355 points, but so worth it when he grants almost the entire army Interceptor and a cover-screw aura, plus IWND vehicles and a bunch of other shit.

>>52211618
Praetor (aether armor, paragon blade, iron halo, melta bomb) - 175 pts

>>52211618
> Archmagos
>Ordinators
>MC photon thruster
>Familar
>MA
>abyent if i feel fancy

did someone say 2 str 6 armour bane lance shots per turn?

>>52211618
Praetor-Tartaros, psychic mastery 3, litanies,raptora, force axe, volkite charger

>>52211618
Most of the time it's just Iron Halo + Paragon Blade. Boring, but he's only meant to be a captain.
The next guy up the command chain has Cataphractii Armour, Digital Lasers, Chainfist, Combi-Melta.
Above him we meet Godwin Rachus, who's got Tartaros Armour, Storm Shield, master-crafted Thunder Hammer, Lasers and the Indomintan Mantle.

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>>52211917
>tfw your thought this was a chaos marine at first
Why does he have a skull covered fence on his back?

If you can text the Emperor (at right after Ullanor) just a single line, what would you text to hom?

>>52212009
>Plug Magnus into the throne, now.

>>52212009
>to tinker with the fate of one individual could destroy the whole world

>>52211695
So is that for small-mid-high points games, or do they all show up at once occasionally?

>>52211690

No cyber-occularis? They do so much awesome shit they're basically an 85pt "Be awesome" tax.

>>52212093
Never taken Godwin because his model isn't finished, and I never take multiple praetors but I sometimes take mid level guy and the captain as a champion.
Taking all three would mean no consuls.

>>52211618
Jump pack, blade of perdition, powerfist, digi lasers, and iron halo, expensive but it works

>>52212009
>Any tips on dating chicks ? You got a whole army of them ...

>>52212009
>Horus Heresy Book 8: Angelus when?

>>52212009
>lorgar already follows the pantheon
...if I thought he might believe my message. If not:
>you left your glasses on top of the land raider again

>>52211119
>The drop pod and the cruiser are my brothers.
>And all the power weapons are my friends.
>And we are all connected to each other
>In a circuit, in a loop that never ends.
If it helps anything, I'd let you use whatever weapon you want and still let you benefit from your LA rules, being shitty enough as it is you don't need other people shitting yet more in it. Also, i happen to be partial to halberds and poleweapons.
If they tell you something, mention that detail in advance and inform them that SWs get both +1WS on the charge AND Counter Attack AND Hunter's dubstep AND their """downside""" is Sweep Advancing, a process that isn't a choice to begin with, and that many rules seek to improve.
Remove furries. Vikings and hunters are alright, even if they're sort of a meme too

>>52208236

You were doing so well until you played the imaginary disability card and ruined yourself.

>>52212392
>You left your LAND'S GRAV SPARTAN under my glasses again.
Fixed.

>>52212440
>responding to 5 hour old bait
ButWhy.webm

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>>52212466
Maybe there was no way around it for him

Was a shame that inferno didn't go into mroe depth about mkIII armour. The backpacks look retarded but it'd have been interesting to know more about the design motivations.

>>52212137
I keep forgetting that your Warlord can't be a certain guy, since Magi are often compulsory HQ not comp Warlord. I run Archmagos Archimandrite, Magos Reductor and Axiarch, and they're all helpful as hell despite being compulsory HQ or useless non-IC buff dude. Can you take triple Consul and still have a legit list sans RoW?

>>52212448

Still hoping we'll get rules for that thing, epic Mechanicum vehicle Lord of War that throws truly stupid buffs everywhere.

Is 'worshipping the Pantheon' mean that you venerate each gods equally? Or you worship THE (hypothetical) god that 4 gods are only different facets/aspects of it?

>>52212590
He worships a god(s), Anon. He should worship 0 (ZERO) gods

>>52212093
They kinda strike me as meh, the interceptor is nice, but as i only take mech as an allied detachment, the auger sweep is larlgy useless, and i dont need to intercept with my magos prime

they would be good in a larger army i think

>>52212590
>Is 'worshipping the Pantheon' mean that you venerate each gods equally?

Yes, a pantheon is a collection of gods that make-up a particular cosmology which may or may not have a hierarchy but for chaos all 4 gods are equal.

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>>52212590
Depends on who you ask, at this point its a religion, so boo be boo be boo

>>52212590
Pantheon means
>all the gods
so probably the former

>>52208758
If I wanted these girls in helmets which ones would you recommend? I'm doing spaceship-interior themed army so they need pressurized suits

I got a HH 1st edition game in less than a month and I don't know nothing about the setting or HH sistem nor Warhammer/40k's.
Where should I start? What is the "5th edition players handbook" for 1st edition HH?
Is there an easy guide to the lore? Any good (and short) books?

>>52212623
Fair enough, I suppose you have Mortis Dreads for that.Throwing out 6 Intercepting haywire shots from some Vulturax or S10AP2 from arty is really damn helpful, though. Especially against Raven Guard. RIP Darkwings.

>>52212692
>HH 1st edition game
What.
>Is there an easy guide to the lore? Any good (and short) books?
No, to git gud at HH lore is a long and soulgrinding task.

>>52212554
>The backpacks look retarded

I used CSM backpack with vents from the MkIII backpack. Make it closer tot he old style. Big problem with the FW design is that it rides way too high. In art the top of the pack barely clears the top of the Marine's head, but on the model it's almost fully above the head.

>interesting to know more about the design motivations

White Dwarf 129 and Warhammer 40,000: Compilation contains original fluff of the various marks which is pretty much what it is today. Basically they needed a suit for fighting in closed spaces and environments with little to no cover, so they took the MkII and modified it heavily with extra plates (and reduced rear armour to compensate). It was never intended to replace anything and no legion/chapter has all their dudes in it. It's just an option for situations where you need that extra protection. It's noted for being heavy and cumbersome, even uncomfortable, but it's the price you pay for the best protection.

>>52212692
>>52212717
Fuck. I meant 1st edition Dark Heresy

Could someone please post the armor autism chart?

>>52212732
>Big problem with the FW design is that it rides way too high. In art the top of the pack barely clears the top of the Marine's head, but on the model it's almost fully above the head.

Purely as a matter of subjective taste, I love the tall backpack. They look suitably archaic and it tickles the same part of my brain that thinks Shakos and tall Bearskins are awesome.

>>52212009
>Is it okay to use Mk VII for my legion dad?

>>52212708
> 6 Intercepting haywire shot
ooooooooooosh

i mean that sounds fucking nasty for 15 points. but as a mere dabbler in the cult of the machine god, wont be investing.

out of interest how do you model them?

>>52212843
>matter of subjective taste

No, it's a matter of being true to the source material and your own art.

Also, way to not only make yourself more top heavy, you're also making it harder for yourself to get under anything and present your precious power source as an inviting target to get shot at.

>>52212778
Trust me when i say this
download DH2, you will tank me, its a lot better
if you can find the DH2 beta its EVEN BETTER

>>52206603
>I wouldn't be surprised if Magnus viewed Lorgar as the most stupid of his brothers
He was the most stupid of his brothers.

>finds chaos gods
>decide to worship them
>despite them wanting to destroy all life
>because "we have to"

>>52212849
All four kb I see

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>>52212871
Well, the local EC player loves himself some Outflanking Spartans with Termies inside (Somehow) and that was my counter I improvised. Now I have Droplites on the way, they'll do the job more reliably.

Mine are floating squid-things like Tyranid Mucolids, but with some metal tentacles in the bundle and implanted voxes. Base is 32mm, which boosts the radius a little bit, but they're easy to see and pop with a spare Krak missile or something, so it evens out.
Bit like a cyber-Huxley from Leviathan, 'cept no pilot.

>>52212448


We should write some rules for that thing. How was it described in the book, anyone? Do anything cool, or just be his pimp ride while he cruised around picking up Sisters of Silence and hot Knight Scions?

>>52212889
But the GM wants to play 1st and I don't know shit about DH, 40k, HH or anything like that. I have only played 2 DnD campaigns and a VtM one shot

>>52208508
I found this video to be quite helpful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm8J-kaezWM

>>52212962
Read the Dark Heresy book cover to cover.

>>52212962
you are in the wrong general son, >>52173490

>>52212962
ahh kk, thought you were the GM, my mistake.
first things first, do you know if this is a game set during the heresy, or the 41st millennium? this is a VERY important question. if you dont know, go skype your GM now.

if its set during the heresy, then you should read the Lexicarnum section on it.

if its just the normal game (so set in the year 40k ish) then find the core book online, and read the first few pages.

Lorgar/WB and (different setting, but) Cthulhu Mythos cultists confuses me. Why the hell would you want to worship a thing that will drive you crazy and destroy all life at the end?

>>52208758
>>52208805
Mind if I ask how you got that nice shade of purple?

>>52212961
>Somehow
Maru skara ROW, allows up to 3 elites/fast attack to outflank on a given turn.

Incidentally I love the dichotomy of both the emperor's children and the iron hands having an outflanking rite of war, just with each going about it their own way. It's neat given the closeness they had before the heresy, and that they fought each other more than against any other legion on Isstvan, that they kind of mirror each other in this.

>>52213048
Transcendence, power and immortality.

>I murdered thousands for the Emperor and he gave me nothing except his damning silence. Now his lapdogs yap for every life I take, while the gods promise me the galaxy.

>>52213086
That explains that. Termie Dedicated Transport, I suppose. Tore my whole artillery squadron a new one first time it showed up, before I'd made my Occularis.

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>>52213048
Lorgar basically thinks that if gods exist, you should worship them regardless of their plans or morality.

>>52213048
>it already drove you crazy so why not worship it
>you'll totally for real be spared and given sweet powers no tricks I swear
>you get an awesome afterlife for your service
Take your pick.

>>52213239
Wouldn't worshipping the Omnisiah enough for him then? As far I know Cult Mechanicus was the Emperor-sanctioned.

So begining HH. Is there a book with all the standard Legionnaire units ?

>>52213295
That's an excellent point, why didn't Lorgar start worshipping the Machine God?
>>52213360
No, why would you think that?

>>52213360
Yes, the Legiones Astartes Age of Darkness Army List (red book).

Legiones Astartes Age of Darkness Legions (also a red book) contains legion-specific stuff for the legions covered by FW's black books 1-5 (i.e. all but DA, WS, SW, BA, or TS).

"Age of Darkness" means it's the current book. The previous ones had the word "Crusade" in them.

Considering the Rangdan xenocides where enough to wipe destroy one or possibly both of the redacted Legions, it isn't too far of a reach to consider the reason for the missing Legions being redacted was to mitigate the potential blow to the Great Crusades Morale.

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>>52213384
>why didn't Lorgar start worshipping the Machine God?
because lorgar was being manipulated by waldorf and statler

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Do Grey Knights terminator helmets fit Tartaros bodies? I want to give my terminators helmets somewhat similar to pic related and the GK ones look like a good base to start with.

>>52213429
IF they were, and thats a big if, its quite possible that perhaps one or both may have allied with Xenos betraying the Great Crusade and maybe even splitting the legions like a mini-Heresy where only two legions break off and fight against the rest or maybe it was just one legion that broke off and the other died during the inter-legion war/rest of the Rangdan xenocide.

Who knows what happened but simply failing isnt enough to warrant a total purge.

>>52213429
>it isn't too far of a reach to consider the reason for the missing Legions being redacted was to mitigate the potential blow to the Great Crusades Morale
they're space romans

It's not really reaching to assume the "missing" legions are in a similar position to the "missing" roman legions, permanently disbanded for some kind of failure in conquest.

>>52213485
>failing isnt enough to warrant a total purge
Get a load of this heretic

>>52213429
>Horus was the first Primarch to be discovered, of the Luna Wolves, called Lupercal
>Russ, 2nd Primarch discovered not to be outdone, goes for the overwolf
>[REDACTED], Primarch of the [REDACTED] straight up turns himself into a Wolf trying to beat them both
>Purges happen

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>>52213439
Probably not, tartaros helmets are quite slim and rounded and they sit under the hood. I doubt the helmet spike and gas vents would fit.

>>52213513
Yeah, out-wolfing each other got out of hand.

>Luna Wolves
>Space Wolves
>Space-Time Continuum Wolves
>REALSPACE AND THE WARP SO TAKE THAT! WOLVES

Why would you ever use indomitus terminator armor? Tartaros costs the same and is better with no drawbacks. I don't really understand?

Is using a bunch of Anvilus pattern backups on loyalist marines too weird even if I fluff them as ship boarders?

>>52213575
Because you're not a WAACfag?

>>52213575
Indomitus is cooler.

>>52213594
Not at all, I used them for both loyalists and traitors.

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>>52213575
Because you're the best legion.

>>52213575
You can blame FW for that. The change happend when plastic tartaros didn't excist yet and FW probably wanted to shift their tartaros stock.

People deserve respect when they do use indomitus for fluff reasons.

>>52213575
If you want your Fists to be fluffy.

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>>52213562
>remembrancer pict of [REDACTED] primarch of the [REDACTED]
Good job Ferrus was there to slap people into shape.

>>52213607
>>52213618
I find tartaros to look better anyway.

Either way, I use cataphractii or gorgons. But now you can use tartaros in 40k too (inexplicably still with combi-bolters).

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>>52205274
there's always Tauriel-on-a-log and maybe some Mirkwood rangers if you're feeling creative, the whole back of her coat thing is a separate piece

slightly out of scale, but definite possibilities if you feel like messing around for a hero

on the other hand you could just learn to sculpt ass

>>52208884
>just the white

it's like he got gangbanged by the Jem'Hadar

>>52213689
>on the other hand you could just learn to sculpt ass
Shouldn't be too hard, my attempts at sculpting already look like ass.

>>52213647
>likes tartaros
>uses cataphractii and custom indomitus

Never cared for the FW OC donut steel tactical eggnoughts armour. It doesn't fit into the setting.

>>52213723
Yes, I think tartaros looks better but I use the armor that fits my legion better.

I'm not giving my dudes a tartaros command squad when my characters are in cataphractii.

> Two Wolf Legions
> Why not two Dog Legions
> War Hounds
> Diamond Dogs [PURGED]

>>52213746
Two iron legions. Two offspring legions. Two guard legions.

>>52213746
>the XI legion was found
>named his legion after cats
>the II legion were dogs
>they purged each other

>>52213787
Two angel legions.

Anyone know if we have the Kingsblade novel? I looked at the pastabins and nothing.

ANGRON, Daemon King of Khorne
550 WS10 BS10 S8 S8 W7 I10 A8 10 2+/3++

Flying Monstrous Creature (Character)

1 (Unique)

Wargear:
Gorefather Exalted: S+1 AP1 Melee Armourbane, Fleshbane, Instant Death

Special Rules:
Daemon of Khorne
Deepstrike
Folly of the XIIth: All Models with the Legiones Asartes (World Eaters) gain the Fear and Stubborn special rules and must take the blood madness option, in addition all missed attacks made by models must be allocated to friendly units in that combat (attacks may never by assigned by the model to itself)
Hatred (Everything)
Primarch of Khorne: Angron has the Primarch, Feel No Pain (4+), Furious Charge, Rampage and Rage special rules

>>52213857
Angron had two rune-encrusted swords specially made for him when he turned Daemon Prince. Because he lost Gorefather and Gorechild quite a while before that. So no 'Gorefather Exalted'

>In other words, read Betrayer you fucking amature

So who is the tactical genius among the tactical geniuses? Damn they overuse that term far too much.

>>52213939
Interesting.

>>52213954
Lion.
Guilliman was logistic genius.

>>52213954
Curze.
>I never worry about what my enemy plans to do, because I will not allow him to do it.

>>52213954
Creed.

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>>52213989
He's more of a statesman than a general.

>>52213954
The Emperor himself probably, because all the primarchs were specialized into one aspect while he is probably the entire package.

>>52214019
The amount of retardation found in all of them must be massive in the Emperor.

>>52214040
Well his ultimate plan for humanity didn't fail because he was perfect :^)

>>52213857
That's absurd for the cost.

Also, am I stupid or did you forget toughness?

>>52214040
Accurate, considering he didn't step in to guide humanity during their golden age, but instead waiting until humanity had almost killed itself.

>>52214077
Nah, Angron's just so hypermad that he has two strengths.

>>52214077
Nah he has double Strenght 8 by the looks of it.

>>52213939
The Black Blade: Melee S: User AP1. Daemon Weapon, Instant Death.
Also he can take an allied detachment of Khorne Daemons as Sworn Brothers.
>>52214040
Depend who's writing him.
>>52214077
I wrote S8 twice instead of S8 T8.

>>52213857
Where's his 12 bloodthirster command squad?

>>52214124
Given how useless bloodthirsters are, probably getting the shit kicked out of them by some imperial army troopers, remembrancers, and raven guard.

>>52214111
Yeah, that thing needs a massive price increase.

>>52214159
What would you suggest? I just kinda tacked on a number.

>>52214102
He did. At least in the old fluff it says he was several prominent historical figures, guiding humanity. I'm sure if HH didn't happen, he would have "died" and remain in history as just another statesman. Over time he could have acted in the shadows to edit history and make himself seem less godlike, etc.

>>52214040
Isn't the emperor to removed from humanity to understand it anymore, Hence he doesn't see obvious betrayals coming. He also punishes his sons in ways that they don't actually learn from the punishment they just resent him.

>>52214102
>>52214210
Plus, he only had to assume direct control when everything went to shit.

>>52214238
>Hence he doesn't see obvious betrayals coming. He also punishes his sons in ways that they don't actually learn from the punishment they just resent him.

This is due to the story being a hodgepodge written and rewritten over the course of 28 years and counting.

>>52214238
>tfw to removed from humanity too see the backstab

>>52214275
Yeah pretty much this.

>>52214238
>inb4U getting betrayed was the big guy's plan all along

>>52210723
Aw its cute

Land's Graviton Raider, 480 points.

AV14/14/14, 4HP, BS5
Gravitic Flare Shield
Grav-backwash (only a-1 to hit this time, too heavy and big, but only works stationary)
Explorator Adaptation
Reinforced Structure (6++)
IWND (4+) (Land is doing combat repair, but he's a tad occupied driving, so not the full 3+ Battlesmith)
Primogenitor Supernum
Master Explorator Array

Quad-volkite turret with thermo-targeters (S6 AP4 Deflagrate Heavy 8, twin-linked)
Some secondary weapon that I haven't decided on yet.

Thermo-targeters:
A very helpful device for Archaotech scouting, it also finds an excellent use in battle. If a unit has taken wounds from Volkite or Phosphex weapons, including as a result of the Crawling Fire or Deflagrate special rules, the quad-volkite gains AP3 against that unit for the duration of the game.

Primogenitor Supernum:
First and greatest of the Raiders, this vehicle is immune to the Melta and Lance special rules, and reduces the extra D6 granted by Armourbane to a D3.

Gravitic Flare Shield:
Normal Flare, but instead of a-2 to Blasts it can be extended to the side armour if the vehicle is stationary (Inc. pivoting).
Transport cap 10, treats Very Bulky as Bulky.

Master Explorator Array:
Reroll on Reserves, all scoring units now contest or control objectives within 5" instead of 3, and all vehicles gain IWND, like an Archimandrite.
Can select D3 units within 12" after deployment to gain either Twin-linked, Monster Hunter/Tank Hunter or Enhanced Targeting while Land is alive, all must have the same rule.

Taghmata or Reductor LoW.
Counts as an Archmagos, and is automatically Warlord, Primarch style, but has no Warlord Trait as it's included in the package anyway.

What do you think? Big unkillable brick with buffs, but he has to be still to survive best, and doesn't have much firepower on it's own. Doesn't make allies much tougher, either. Probably terribly OP.

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>>52211969
Dark Angels, son

>>52214238
>>52214275
>>52214280
Reminder that Laurie Fanwank set the plan for the rest of the HH novels before he left, and it's going to be canon that the emperor planned the heresy.

I won't post the picture because it upsets people too much.

>>52214300
Pretty convinced Big Es plan was to lead the crusade into the webway to secure it for humanity.

>>52214193
Around 650 at least. I'd feel better at 750.

He can brutally skull fuck whole deathstars by himself. He doesn't need a transport to get around. He's tougher than the toughest primarchs, he's faster than the fastest primarch. And he can outkill all of them. There isn't a single thing that he can't kill with ease.

>>52214324
Buffs are far too good, they're better than what most primarchs hand out.

>>52214360
He dun git u gud, didn't he?

>>52214375
Yeah, that's fair.

>>52214408
>implying our lord and saviour, the Emperor, the master of mankind wasn't constantly looking out for humanity's best interest, as well as job opportunities for his soon to be NEET sons
Traitors get out REEEEE.

>>52214491
Remove Word Bearer.

>>52213939
>Betrayer
>tfw you don't realize what the book's title really means until right at the end
When Erebus kills Argel Tal.

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>>52214554
I feel like this should be an Edict.

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>tfw you wanna post your list for help but people you know from your local shop browse the thread and you gonna get your list tailored against and rekt

>>52214602
Erebus has no honour to flee Kharn's duel.

I've had a bunch of unpainted/a few unassembled WEs made up of a mix of mk IV, mk III and the FW Berzerker conversion kit that I was gonna use as Siege of Terra WEs. I was originally going to paint them red and white, but a couple of friends have been pestering me to play 40k again so I was thinking of painting them full on red and gold. I get really triggered when I see "30k" armies that are literally just regular plastic tac marines but would this be any better?

>>52214672
post it fag

I'll know.

>>52214724
It definitely would be fine. Considering the Horus Heresy predates 40k and the traitors Legions have components that have existed since that time period, it would be perfectly acceptable.

>>52214360
Some fans have a pet theory that the Emperor planned it (loosely) as a way to cull the Astartes. He did it to the Thunder Warriors, but the Astartes were too many in number and too organized for the Custodes to repeat the job. So they had to fight each other. It's not officially supported at this time... the main reasoning behind it is, "Surely he's smart enough to have seen it coming?"

I could see the Emperor keeping some of them around afterward, like the UM as administrators, AL running intelligence networks, SW for handling rebellions, etc., but what's he going to do with World Eaters once there isn't much fighting left to do?

In Master of Mankind He implies that conquering the galaxy could be done or re-done at any time. Just raise new legions, I guess. The webway project though, that has to be done just right.

>>52214724
siege of terra WE would be full brass/red, anyways

all the traitor legions were rocking their traitor schemes by then

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>>52214744
>>52214775
Thanks anons.

>>52214762
I assumed the war in the webway would be an efficient means of reducing marine numbers. Once you kill enough Dark Eldar the gate Khaine is bound to open and flood the place with daemons.

Plus the WE problem can be solved once angron is killed by the nails and it becomes harder for them to recruit in greater numbers.

>>52214762
That's stupid. Literally first HH novel says it.

>‘There are so many worlds still to be brought to compliance,’
Loken agreed. ‘One day, we will rest at last.’
‘No,’ Sigismund replied bluntly. ‘The crusade will never end.
Don’t you know that?’
Loken shook his head, ‘I wouldn’t—’
‘Not ever,’ said Sigismund emphatically. ‘The more we spread,
the more we find. World after world. New worlds to conquer.
Space is limitless, and so is our appetite to master it.’
‘I disagree,’ Loken said. ‘War will end, one day. A rule of peace
will be established. That is the very purpose of our efforts.’
Sigismund grinned. ‘Is it? Perhaps. I believe that we have set
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ourselves an unending task. The nature of mankind makes it so.
There will always be another goal, another prospect.’
‘Surely, brother, you can conceive of a time when all worlds
have been brought into one unity of Imperial rule. Isn’t that the
dream we strive to realise?’
Sigismund stared into Loken’s face. ‘Brother Loken, I have
heard much about you, all of it good. I had not imagined I would
discover such naivety in you. We will spend our lives fighting to
secure this Imperium, and then I fear we will spend the rest of
our days fighting to keep it intact. There is such involving darkness
amongst the stars. Even when the Imperium is complete,
there will be no peace. We will be obliged to fight on to preserve
what we have fought to establish. Peace is a vain wish. Our crusade
may one day adopt another name, but it will never truly
end. In the far future, there will be only war.’

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>>52214797
but anon the blue and white scheme is so much sexier

>>52215018
This is true

>>52215018
I respectfully disagree.

>>52215063
at least you're respectful about it

>>52215018
Please tell me these are only half done.

>>52214934
Also Tyranids, ancient technology left over from the dark ages, and the extra-dimensional invaders mentioned in the newer fluff (could have swore it was in one of the core books) that took like a hundred chapters to finally defeat.

>>52215101
How would you improve them?

>>52215101
>>52215152
they're missing a lot of finer details, that I'll have to go back to eventually. I brought them up to tabletop standard for a game this week and they look pretty good for a game. better than some of the plastishit unprimed players at my store.

>>52215018
Help me, brothers. I am slowly falling and cannot stop myself.

>Magnus sent virtually the entire TS fleet away
>Magnus didn't send away his legion or make any attempt to evacuate Prospero during all that time the Space Wolves crept towards Prospero at a snail's pace

What the fuck was wrong with him?

>>52215181
Yeah to be fair half of my guys are just spray primed, I'm still trying to get an assembly line technique down for mass painting white armour.

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>>52214672

>not posting a false list as a ruse so you can counter tailor

>>52215425
It's like he's not even Alpharius.

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>>52215273
here's an example of me trying to mass paint white armor using Duncan's guide last year. this guy looks like most of the actual 30k community in real life.

https://natfka.blogspot.com/2017/03/space-marine-mk-x-armor-3-pack-boxes.html

Would it be okay to use Mk X armor in horus heresy games

>>52215266
>what the fuck was wrong with Magnus
It could be something as simple as him freezing up. It's the edge of the coin compared to the two sides of fight and flight, and doesn't get as much press as they do.

But yeah, it was monstrously stupid. And if nothing else he deserves what he got just for fucking over the people of Prospero.

>>52215593
it could something as simple as shitty fiction and storytelling. sometimes you guys forget this is just a book series and that the plot points from point A to B are set in stone, that's where the BL or black book authors can shit up the "why"

>>52215562
What do you think?

>>52215536
Not bad, I want to try a metal base coat. Clear coat. Flaking agent. Then a couple of white top coats. Follow this up with a quick scrub with a tooth brush and a bit of water. I hope this will created a sort of scratched white armour effect.

>>52215266
He wanted to die and have all his works cast down. He just told the fleet to fuck off as they'd be more than a speedbump for the Censure Host. Easier to get them to leave.

>>52214797
>>52214775
Not all the WE wore brass and red at the siege, the Kharn book set immediately after features Dreagher and the guys he got off Terra, half of them are still rocking the white and blue.

One of the consistent problems with BLshit is the grim dark part keeps getting played up but ends up becoming grimderp instead. Even though we adhere to Forgeworld being the one and true source of everything HH, what they can write about is still constrained by the shit thats already written in BL.

>>52215726
Generally this is true. But FW often uses the excuse of "imperial bias" to flat out ignore BL.

It works for me.

>>52215719
>He wanted to die and have all his works cast down. He just told the fleet to fuck off as they'd be more than a speedbump for the Censure Host. Easier to get them to leave.

That didn't require the complete extermination of Tizca's human population. He could have very well just used the fleet to evacuate the populace. The only reason why Space Wolves faced as much resistance as they did was because the population was basically forced to react suddenly to a doomsday scenario. If the Space Wolves walked through empty streets up to the big pyramid, Magnus' intended result would have been all the same.

>>52215745

>But FW often uses the excuse of "imperial bias" to flat out ignore BL.

At the same time, they can't retcon events completely. Prospero was meant to be a tragic and massive loss of life, but the constraints were such that the entire thing only came off as ridiculously retarded for both sides.

>>52215719
Then I guess his army is the half that is red and brass, who gives a shit?

>>52215786
I enjoyed Inferno's telling of it. It was tragic enough.

>>52215805

I enjoyed it too. FW made the best out of a grimderp situation and the TS Astartes were all the more sympathetic for it.

>>52215772
No, but he was in a complete state of disarray. The most prideful and self-confident of the primarchs realises not only did he fuck everything up, fucked everything up because some other guy played him into it. He doesn't think clearly and just wants to take his punishment and see his works broken. At that time. Logic didn't apply, clearly. Magnus was broken, and then got broken even more.
>>52215787
It's called conversation.

>>52215726
And BL has its hands tied by old fluff, and is weaving through the best it can.

Or sometimes not that old. One BL author tried writing a Grey Knights novel about the whole Draigo vs. Mortarion thing because he thought it'd be a challenge to write about something so preposterous.

I have GW Magos and Necron Command Barge (for Abeyant conversion). What could I add on to make the Magos look more heretek and the Barge more AdMech?

Oh, I'm intending to remove those 2 necron drivers for sure.

>>52204875
Daily Word Bearers Post #7
Week Minds for Weak Minds Edition

L O R G A R D I D N O T H I N G W R O N G

>>52214003
Is that why the Dark Angels shattered his legion?

Tips to making my iron hands not look like iron warriors?

>>52216636
Paint them black and leave out the hazard stripes?