Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

GeeDubs will formally bring squats back as soon as they go through all this primarch and super marine and custodes hype

Mark my words. They'll do anything to create hype now. The old stubbornly reactionary GW that refused to change anything died with Kirby

Also first

>>52192043
Meh

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>>52192043
First for Orks!

>>52192091
The Primarch releases are going to carry them through the next 3-4 years, with other stuff for non-Marine factions inbetween, I don't think squats is gonna happen.

>>52192091
When are they going to change the shit tier rules and utter lack of balance or the obvious don't-give-a-fuck-about-the-faction writers? It's fucking retarded to claim that they're just waiting for 8E to make good rules, especially when AoS was such a poorly managed shitshow.

>>52192114
GW doesnt care about rules or balance still, but they found a new weapon with "huge event look who came back/what got destroyed" hype

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>>52192097
Roit, time fer a proppa WAAAGH!!

Seriously though, can we all just agree the Ork diplomat Bezhrak walking into the Senatorum on Terra and smacking the High Lords with his proverbial dick during the Beast Arises is one of the greatest achievements in the 40k universe?

I made this list, how is it? Only problem is needing to order Land Speeder MMs since the LSS sprue doesn't have them. I think the Red Hunters chapter tactics might work better since they can get skyfire, so Missile Launchers could try and take out flyers, but unfortunately they don't have a Scout HQ and the Scout formation doesn't grant ObSec.

Ultramarines 10th Company CAD 1,000 points.

HQ
-Sergeant Telion, 50

Troops
-2xScout Squad, 55
+5 Scouts, 55
+9 Sniper Rifles, 9
+10 Camo Cloaks, 20
+Missile Launcher, 15
+Melta Bombs, 5
Total, 159 (318)

-2xScout Squad, 55
+5 Scouts, 55
+Missile Launcher, 15
+Melta Bombs, 5
Total, 130 (260)

2xScout Squad, 55
+5 Scouts, 55
+Heavy Bolter, 8
+5 CCW, free
+Veteran Scout Sergeant, 10
+Melta Bombs, 5
+Teleport Homer
Total, 133 (266)

Dedicated Transport
2xLand Speeder Storm, 40
+Multi-melta, 10
Total, 50 (100)

Total, 994

>>52192097
Orkz will be shit until they retcon their tard babble away. They sound like a bunch of braind-damaged soccer hooligans trying to read Trump tweets with a mouthful of broken glass.

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Why did Big E call the reconquest of the galaxy "Great Crusade" if he hated religion and a Crusade is, by definition, a war made upon religious beliefs?

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Thoughts? Too many points into melee? Bad idea altogether?

Can infiltrate the entire murdergroup due to Warlord

As well as every other unit for that matter

Does anyone have Gathering Storm companion book?

>>52192170
I mean, technically it was a war on religious beliefs.

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>>52192097
S4 base and fnp for all. Also, gib fearless on mobs of 10+

>>52192163
you have to go ultramarines since sergeant telion is ultra

>>52192188
Yeah well now that you say it, technically is true.

>>52192196
Yeah, that's why I said unfortunately the Red Hunters don't have a Scout HQ.

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>>52192170
Because the Emperor is retarded. The HH series has made it clear that the absolute worst fate that could befall the Imperium would be the return of the Emperor. Motherfucker consistently fucks things up, usually in ways that anyone not a drooling retard could see coming.

>>52192163
>>52192196
> I think the Red Hunters chapter tactics might work
> Ultramarines 10th Company CAD 1,000 points.
Choose one

>>52192209
Screw Telion and go Raven Guard / Raptors?

>>52192209
Or use the 10th Company formation which is 3-5 Scouts or Scout Bikes. No HQ required.

How do I get Forgeworld in with my Chaos Legions stuff? Do I have to take an additional CAD with just standard stuff in order to get any Forgeworld?

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>>52192165
You's tinks you's a cleva git eh? I'z gonna see how cleva you iz wit me choppa in ya skull.

>>52192189
>gib fearless on mobs of 10+
Fucks over aspekt boyz and other elite units, not to mention that Fearless proliferation is bad.

Just make it so that Mob rule grants leadership/stat bonuses based on unit size AND/OR the number of nearby units. That way a 30 man unit of boyz gains benefits, and a small squad of tank bustas hiding in the middle of scores of other orks also gains benefits.

https://youtu.be/mGTJywbFeLk

>>52192237
It's the kind of silly shit that should have been left behind long ago.

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>>52192210
Well the Emperor is a turk after all.

>>52192221
Nah, what I personally want is to go IF or RH. Red Hunters because they can get a nice slew of rules, most notably Skyfure, which means AA Missiles and Multi-Meltas for free, and IF because I like IF.

Also
>might work better, but unfortunately they don't have a scout HQ
Pls lrn 2 read.

>>52192230
True, but ObSec means that you'd have to shoot the Scouts and/or their Land Speeders to get them off the objectives.

I'll admit it's also because Telion's a pretty nice character who also has a really good model.

>>52192239
Ld=7/ Number of orks within 12"

>>52192260
The Orks have plenty of really grim moments man, there's a whole part of one of the books in the Beast series about how they farmed humans on a planetary scale.

>>52192285
Fair enough. End of the day its Obj Ultramarines or Formation other chapters.

There is also another formation with Scouts and LSS where the Scouts get Obj Secured (but not the LSS). Think the other bonus is Scouts can disembark after the transports move 12"

>>52192285
I agree with taking a CAD because otherwise you're going to find it hard to score points with an army of scouts.

You could always ask your opponent to let you use RH rules. I don't think people are likely to be too worried about it with against an army of scouts.

>>52192318
>farmed humans

Farmed them for what?

>>52192153
>Ork diplomat Bezhrak walking into the Senatorum on Terra and smacking the High Lords with his proverbial dick

You mean this?
>‘Useless,’ Bezhrak said. ‘Worse than snotlings.’
>He looked at his fellows. ‘No reasoning with humans. Break ’em, kill ’em, eat ’em. That’s good. Don’t try to make ’em think. Can’t be done.’
>He shrugged. He turned back to the High Lords. >‘Want to die, then? Last chance.’

To hear that sort of thing coming from an Ork of all xenos is just rubbing salt in the wound.

>>52192318
I'm not saying Orks should have been left behind, I'm saying Orks having the linguistic capabilities of a parrot should have been left behind.

Orks can do grim and scary, but the effect is ruined when they open their mouths.

>>52192260
>hurr warhammer ids serious bidness

>>52192043
>It's the year 007.M42
>Abaddon has been slain by the combined efforts of Roboute Guiliman, the Ynnari and the Tau
>but there is one who won't just retreat back into the Eye of Terror
>Perturabo stands fast, ready to take over the forces of the Black Legion and combining them with his Iron Warriors
>ever the avid wargamer, he challenges Guiliman to a game
>after all, he had 10,000 years of time to consider strategies and build an army the likes has never been seen before
>He remembers the power of his armies back then, in the glorious times of the year 003,5M31
>40,000 points of footslogging Iron Warriors, allied Lords of Skulls, Heldrakes and a massive amount of artillery
>Guiliman remains his natural calm, and slowly unpacks his Ultramarines
>"You fool! You think your Marines can beat me? They will be stro...wait. What is that? Are those..."
>"Yup. Grav-Centurions, Grav-Bikes and Skyhammers."
>"You are worse than father, when he fielded his Forgeworld Custodes! I will not play against some kind of WAAC bullshit!"
>"So you give up and never come back? That is fine with me."
>His most trusted Warsmiths and the leaders of the Black Legion whisper behind Perturabos back, surely making plans to overthrow the Primarch
>Perturabo knows he cannot give up, or all this might would melt like snow on a hot summers day
>"Fine then, I'll play you. My list is superior to yours anyways."
>A faint smirk graces Guilimans face, for he knows Perturabo cannot get out of this anymore
>He slowly unpacks a grey mass of models. Something robotic, from the appearence
>"Wait, what are those things brother? I don't remember the Imperium producing anything like that!"
>"Oh, those are my allies. Tau Riptides."
>"B-but how? This is not possible! You can't just ally something in!"
>"Watch me do it. Haven't you read the rules?"
>"I have them right here, I remember all of them!"

>>52192340
food

>>52192340
cocksleeves

>>52192340
>Farmed them for what?
Skin for clothing, client races to serve as cannon fodder that's a little more effective than throwing Grots at the problem. Y'know, that sort of thing.

Mind you, this was done by 32k-era Blood-Axes, and they're a bunch of untrustworthy gits anyway.

>>52192153
That scene was retarded and the idea that you're the kind of subhuman scum that I share this hobby with is sickening.

>>52192360
Seems inefficient. Hell they make Squigs that are probably more effective than humans.

Guess its for the whole Grim/Dark rating.

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>>52192327
The formation requires normal land speeders, so does the speartip strike.

>>52192285
>>52192322
Yeah, Stormbringer Squadron (Angels of Death pg. 60)

1-3 Land Raider Speeders
1-3 Scout Squads
Scouts have to use Land Speeder Storms at dedTrans

Scouts get ObjSec and can disembark after 12" of movement. Storms also get +1 bonus to Jink

So just go like Ultrasmurf CAD and RH Stormbringer Squadrons?

>>52192340
scientists, cannon fodder that's stronger than grots, food, clothing

>>52192349
I don't mind humor, but most people stop finding silly voices hilarious by the time they reach puberty.

>>52192391
woops meant >>52192322

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Veridyan coming back. Celestine coming back. Sisters coming back.

>>52192299
Or lets not be fucking retarded and just make their Nobs LD8 and Warbosses 10.

>>52192395
That makes more sense than just Food.

>>52192394
>mixing Chapter Tactics
Hello cancer, my old friend!

>>52192396
orks stop being orks if they lose the silly voices. It doesn't ruin anything about them. also,
>waaah stop liking things I don't like

Have we ever gotten a canon look into human life inside Necron controlled space?

>>52192358
That's hilarious.

>>52192391
>>52192394
Hmmm... I dunno, I think I'll just keep with the UM CAD until the day comes where there's a generic Scout HQ.

>>52192170
Imperium also has connotations of divinity. It's possible that GW just chose the term imperium because it's Latin, but I'm sure they were aware of the connotations.

>Fabtady grognards are still butthurt over AoS existing

Holy fuck, that's pathetic

>>52192165
aren't orks literally modeled off soccer hooligans

>>52192469
Football you cunt.

>>52192448
Really? The tardspeech is the only distinguishing feature of orks? No wonder GW doesn't lavish support on such a boring army.

Yes, people have opinions. Good job, gold star. Any more statements of the obvious to regale us with?

Do we have Rise of Primarch pdf?

>>52192474
Soccer, short for association football.

Created to distinguish it from Rugby Football, the vastly superior sport.

>>52192486
You can find the books in the third link under 40k supp

>>52192450
>human life in necron space

I believe they call that 'death'

>>52192358
>Perturabo pulls out an ancient tome, the sites brittle and worn from the many times he doublechecked on some of the rules
>"Oh please brother, get with the times. The rules have been updated quite some time ago. Here, have a read."
>Furiously Perturabo reads through the rulebook Guiliman handed him
>"Allies? Imperial Knights? And since when do some of my brothers legions count as something different than your regulkar Space Marines? This makes no sense at all!"
>"So will you play me or not?"
>"I...I have to, I guess."
>"Fine then."
>Guiliman slowly reaches down at his side and pulls out another army bag
>He props up his Warlord Titan, an exclusive work of art made for him by the forges of Mars
>He opens the next bag, and out come reddish Eldar, dozens of Wraithknights, hundreds of Scatterbikes and Warpspiders
>"Wait no, this goes too far! You can't just add even more allies!"
>"Of course I can, read the book"
>"But Eldar are overpowered! This is not fair at all!"
>"You agreed to play me. By the way, have another read. Those aren't just some Eldar, those are Ynnari."
>"..."
>After about two days later, the first gameturn has ended
>"Well Pert, I don't think you can do much anymore. What do you want to do?"
>Perturabo packs his miniatures back into his bag, tears slowly welling up in his eyes
>"W-we'll meet again b-brother! I-i am not done yet! T-the next update will...will make me even with you! Just wait, my time will come!"
>And thus Roboute Guiliman, Lord Commander of the Imperium, saved the day once more.

>>52192438
>Wanting to do a fluffy Red Hunters 10th Company Force.
>Woops! Only 10th Company Captain is a special character and belongs to a different chapter.
>Either mix Tactics or give up on your original idea.

>>52192488

>Rugby football
What.

>>52192467
>>52192467
Do you think that all the old WHFB fans will just phase out of existence at some point? Smegmar wearing the rotting corpse of their old game keeps the wound fresh.

>>52192493
Many thanks anon

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>>52192450
most die but some lords like having living subjects

>>52192488
>Rugby football
Thats not a real thing

>>52192502
Or just talk to your opponents like a reasonable human being. It's not like Telion is a Captain anyways.

Also, the dude stated he was interested in RH for the rules anyways, so fuck off.

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Raynor's Raider has added a Drop Pod to their army.

>>52192496
They don't really have any reason to go full purge mode now.

>>52192508
>>52192535
It's just called Rugby, but it was the other sport referred to as football when they came up with the name association football.

>>52192267

Suddenly, and not unexpectedly,

Turkish people;

>>52192552
>3dprinted SC minis
I'm not sure how I feel about this

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>>52192448
>orks stop being orks if they lose the silly voices
Well, sometimes the boyz have to ditch the voices for boring humie Gothic just to rub it in Looking at you Bezhrak, ya silly git.

>>52192488
>>52192558
>Soccer
>Rugby
Itz Grotball, ya humie gits!

Relatively new player, I've dabbled in Tau, currently considering getting into Genestealers for a faction that isn't 100% about shooting things.

1. General genestealer tips?
2. Do we know anything about genestealers and the coming of 8th ed? Is it safe to get into them now, or should I wait to see what 8th brings?
3. Friends starting with 750pt armies. I'm looking at a Cult Insurrection with Brood Cycle, Broodcoven and Cult Mutants (Aberrants), with the only extra being ML 2 on the Magus. How does that sound for a start?
4. I'm aware that the Overkill box is one of the cheapest ways to get a bunch of the important stuff. Any other tips for cheaply getting neophytes, acolytes and metamorphs? These things are obnoxiously expensive, and I can't seem to find any used on ebay (just in-box a few bucks cheaper than elsewhere).

With the overkill box and the list from part 3 above, I'm looking at: Overkill box, Iconoward, and one box each of purestrains, neophytes, acolytes and metamorphs, looking at about $320.

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>>52192571
Feels good man.

I feel like sharing my dudes.

http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1tUdG_-gtL7yPm9kxh0e7QOMTdW2NDBG4pAJ0MMtpFuI

Tell me what you think about them. FYI it is still a work in progress and English is not my first language so please don't minds the occasional spelling/grammatical error.

>>52192529
Now I'm thinking of a necron lord with ad-mech slave girls talking up how much he appreciates their mechandentrite.

Now with my blessedly good imagination, I require brain bleach.

>>52192552
Where I can get those models? I need to trigger someone

>>52192592
I'm okay with this

>>52192581
>>52192342
>orkfags unironically think "I was only pretended to be retarded" is the height of good writing
Every general brings me a little bit closer to not caring that you guys are getting soft-squatted.

>>52192552
>you want a piece of me boy?

>>52192097
>posting speed at i2

>>52192592
blue/10, would add some colours or paint the whole thing

>>52192592
how well does it take paint?

>>52192592
Tank looks absolutely terrible and bunker is mediocre, but the rest are alright.

>>52192170
Because BL HH is pants on head retarded.

Theres a couple of good books, and the rest is trash. What's sad is many of the problems, like the one you pointed out, could have been easily avoided.
Rather than have emps be a fedora, they should have left that vauge. He's opposed to superstition because it powers the chaos gods and at some point that led to conflict with lorgar. The Emperor wanted to build a new galaxy spanning empire founded on reason and hope, not the ignorance and fear of the age of strife.
That's all we needed to know about the Early Imperium's religious policy.

HH should have been about the major battles, seiges and exchanges and not much else. But BL doesn't seem to understand that a good books or series of books should be like a skirt: long enough to cover the topic, short enough to keep it interesting.

>>52192640
what bunker, that's a supply depot

How is mob rule bad? I saw a game against orks where the guy failed his leadership, rolled a dice used the "boss pole" to think his guys and they just hung out after taking armor and fnp saves. At one point it even gave them stubborn at the cost of like 2 s4 ap- hits

>>52192640
Would want to see one of those marines close up. Can't see enough of their details zoomed in, but they look choppy.

I want to see Games Workshop do a historical World War II game so that they have to bring out "Start Collecting! Nazis"

>>52192682
You valued it enough to mangle out a response with your sausage fingers.

>>52192654
K.

>>52192674
I'm sure they look pretty crappy way up close, but they're perfectly fine from table-top distance.

>>52192613
You sound like an insufferable cunt irl

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So two questions, mostly relating to homebrew and conversions.

The first is that I'm starting up rules for Chaos 'Devastator' terminators, essentially a Terminator squad with no restrictions on heavy weapons. My plan to balance this was to cap the squad at 5 men, and also make it count as a Lord of War option in a CAD. The way I see it, you can already get 6 heavy weapon terminators in a CAD if you take 3 full squads (unlikely, I know), so that would represent a Warband taking the Heavy weapon terminators from those squads and fielding them as one. In also unsure if such a squad should have a champion with a heavy weapon.

The second question relates to the first. Essentially, I had the idea to take the missiles from the Scarab terminator kit, shift them forward to be on the edge of the armor, and use them as 'horns' for Khormate versions of these. I don't have the kit though, so I'm not sure how feasible that is.

>>52192662
>2 S 4 hits

Because boys are strength 3.

>>52192722
>Glorified heavy support squad
>LoW
stop

>>52192713
I meant at first glance for me they looked pretty subpar. As in I didn't recognize them as SC Marines, (but figured it out through the comments)

>Maybe it's the Dark Blue plastic used / lighting?

>>52192722
Or just use Obliterators.

>>52192613
>Every general brings me a little bit closer to not caring that you guys are getting soft-squatted.
>Being this mad because the 'comedy-relief' faction decided to quit "muckin' about" for a few minutes and kicked the shit out of the Imperium in a war where the Imperium was guaranteed to win from the outset
>thinking the greenskins are being squatted at all
Someone's got a stick up their ass.

>>52192662
It would be fine if they had FNP naturally

>>52192733
Nobz are S4 tho
>and I3

>>52192761
Which is why mob rule adjusts itself down to S 3 if there's no nob in the squad, right?

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>>52192608
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1746288

>>52192620
Nids soon.

>>52192632
I haven't bothered yet but I know if you spray primer them they paint exactly like any other plastic mini.

>>52192713
It's true they are no where near detailed as a real mini if they are printed at 0.1mm or 0.2mm, but if you take a lot of time and print them at 0.07mm then they can look great.

>>52192778
One would have hoped. But GW is GW
>Wouldn't that mean that the Warbosses unit would be S5 hits?

>>52192778

It's not the Nob, it's being
> really fired up!

>>52192644
That's fucking true

>>52192538
I actually like the RH fluff wise, I also like their rules because once per game skyfire on Scouts.

Also because it pleases my autism that I can run Red Hunters against any army fluff-wise and justify it as "The =][= wants them dead. Take them out".

>>52192591
Could I get any feedback on this? Or is this the wrong place to post such questions?

>>52192170
The marines themselves insisted on calling it the great crusade. It wasn't big E's idea.

Also BL has its own head stuck way too far up its own arse. When they see older lore that, while a bit vague, works just fine, they can't help but go in dry and fuck shit up.

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Didn't get a response last thread so I thought I would just ask again.

Trying to make a 1k list using up the few models I collected so far, BA is my first army. DC marines without the jump packs and the DC dreadnought will be transported in the Stormraven. Is this too much fluff or does it stand to at least be playable?

>>52192809
That was a spot in our faces when they published that FAQ

>>52192843

I run Iron Hands but I've thought about buying the BA Start Collecting box and just allying in whatever the formation is because I like the Bhaal Predator so much.

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Going to fight Guard in a high point value game for the first time in a looong time. Running Kakophoni. About how loud will things get and do you guys recommend any changes?

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Whatcha workin' on boyz? You ARE working on that backlog, right? You're not a stinky grot muckin' about are you?

Me? I'm finally assembling my HH boxes and magnetizing them, which is a whole new thing for me.

>>52192734
I'm probably only going to run one squad regardless, so it hardly matters

>>52192754
Nah

>>52192841
The Horus Heresy books was a mistake.
Explaining the "creation myth" 40k is pointless. BL can't write gods or Demi-god to save their life, let alone good characters (there are some decent ones, some look good just because the rest are so bad )

>>52192843
Replace a tactical squad with scouts, mount your remaining squad in a rino or razorback and/or spend the remaining points on more rip and tear.

How well do Iron Warriors perform on the tabletop? I'd like to start them.

>>52192879

I'm going to be priming and painting a five man Assault Squad built from MK3 marines from the Burning of Prospero box.

I don't have pictures because I am a shit but it should be fun.

>>52192185
I'm picking up my copy in a few hours.

>>52192879
Waiting for bodies to arrive so i can do some havocs.

>>52192899
Also footslogger d/c is just asking to be kited.

>>52192913

What jump packs are you using?

Also

>reeeee MKIII assmarines

>>52192879
Gonna break out my Tau Breachers and finish them up today (hopefully)

>>52192879
Finishing my metal Lord of Changes (only crotchcloth and stave left)

And continue to work on magnetizing my Rhinos to be built as all Marine based vehicles

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>>52192873
The BA starter set with the Tac squad, Baal Pred, and Termi Cap have their own formation which is neat.

>>52192899
Don't have a Rhino or a Razorback but it's next on my list of things to get, as well as a drop pod. I could swap out the Baal Pred and call it a Rhino and be able to grab more DC marines. But I also haven't had the chance to play my Pred too much yet and am sorta interested in seeing what I can do with it.

>>52192879
baaaah my deathwatch models, who im building and fluffing as alpha legion infiltrators, but they're coming along slow. I fucked up some of the shoulder pads on the sprues because I lived in a world without daily Duncan.

Two thin coats...should have used two thin coats...

>>52192925
It's why I put them in the Stormraven.

>>52192843
but stormraven a ugly

Is the Ad Mech truly a separate empire or is it more a megacorp pumped full of grimdark?

>>52192529
I imagine how a human society would even look like under Necron lords.

So I know Guilliman is a Lord of War, is he just a choice for Ultramarines or for all armies of the Imperium? I know you can take the formation with him, cypher, and voldus...but I am not interested in that. Basically what I am wondering if I can do is use him as a LOW choice in a Dark Angels army. Since I play Dark Angels I cannot run the formation that contains Cypher. Is this possible without running an Ultramarines CAD? I only own Dark Angels...can I run him? If so, how? Thanks in advance

>>52192841
The Horus Heresy books was a mistake.
Explaining the "creation myth" 40k is pointless. BL can't write gods or Demi-god to save their life, let alone good characters (there are some decent ones, some look good just because the rest are so bad )

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I really want to have a Custodes army lead by a Custodes Captain and a Contemptor Dreadnought called Ornstein and Smough

How good are Sicarian Battle Tanks? Was thinking of getting one

>>52193005
It's interesting because the FW books are the same canon as BL, but they delete the retarded bits, keep the mystery and are just plain written better.

>>52192989
We just talking about appearance here? (Cause I agree it's a garbage can) Or we just talking about stats?

>>52193024
appearance, I don't know shit about the stats

>>52193005

It would have been fine if they'd taken a "What really happened!" approach and just made the Primarchs founding chapter master equivalents.

Maybe have them be the emperor's "sons" in the Roman sense: Adopting a full grown man into royalty for political expediency.

>>52192952

>metal bird monster man
Fuck that thing. Holy shit that fucker is a piece of shit. WHO THOUGHT THE ENTIRE NO MODEL SHOULD STAND ON ONE FOOT THAT ISN'T EVEN ONE PIECE??? I wound up resting the staff on the base and running a pin through it.

>>52192991
Bit of column A, bit of column B.
Honestly though, it does really feel like the AdMech doesn't give a damn what happens to the Imperium unless it affects them directly. Bloody two-faced toasterfuckers...

>>52193005
I think it would have worked better if they had done less explaining of things that were meant to be mystery, and set it from the viewpoint of more outside observers. Have books be from the view of normal people, marines, or enemies, rather than Primarchs themselves.

>>52192991
you can think of it as a vassal empire to the imperium, with the fabricator general of Mars as their leader. I would not call them a megacorp because there's no mention of profits or even selling their stuff to anyone in the fluff.

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>>52192929

I'm using some old metal ones I got from a friend. Please excuse my shitty lighting.

I'm using mk3 dudes because they look slightly beefier than normal marines, so I thought the idea of dudes who drop down out of the sky and then slice you in half with chainsword would be cooler if they were big, bulky, intimidating looking dudes as opposed to regular marines.

I've got five more I can assemble after these ones, but it'll have to wait until I can find more of these old style packs, because mk3 suits with modern jump packs would look dumb.

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>>52193027
Not sure if you give a fuck then but take this anyways. It's 200 points.

>>52192879
Preparing myKhorne Lord and his Juggernaut, Cryptek and Slambo for working. Meaning I'm trying to get the resin clean.

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Does anyone know where the most recent rules for a Tau Manta are? Asking for tech-heretical reasons, and also custom Mechanicum toys. Got to love Forge World's editing, so messed up it lets us do even more fun stuff.

>>52193071

You said it. Don't diss the toasterheads, but some of us do prefer attack helicopters.

>>52192097
>This is what Initiative 2 posting looks li- >>52192624
Fuck. Beat me to it.

>>52193022
>>52193005
GW writers in general are rubbish as large scale, cohesive and epic tales.

Small-scale dirty one-offs with or without recurring characters is their golden zone.

>>52192346

Wow this, have you read armageddon and blood and fire? I love how the orks are depicted in those books, ruthless albeit mindless killing machines to a certain degree and the only sentence spoken by an ork is a warboss who presents himself in a challenge as "Emperor killa" in a very rough tounge which reclusiarch Grimaldus can barely understand. Brilliant.

>>52192963

All of the SC boxes have their own formation, which is pretty cool.

The vanilla one lets the captain nominate a unit within 12" of it to fire during the movement phase and then again during the shooting phase if it doesn't move.

If you turn the venerable dreadnought into a rifleman dread and park it and the captain somewhere in a chokepoint or objective than you can be throwing a shitload of dakka at your opponent each turn.

>>52193105
that's pretty fuckin good actually, 12/12/12 flier at bs4 and 3hp? hot damn

>>52193012
That's fine, but only if you take the Galatus Dreadnought forgeworld offers. It is superior in every way, especially the looks. And you don't want to disappoint the Emperor by sticking brother Philus into some old Spehss Muhreen Contemptor, right?

>>52192497

My sides are in orbit

>>52193050
Ya... I'm worried he'll break nearly at any time... not my most favorite model to work with.

>>52193099

I wonder what those thrusters are from because I would love to have a bunch. They look like MKV aka what chaos raptors use, and I could use at least a few for some characters.

Since I'm night lords and my Night Raptors in 30k use MKV, I was probably going to use MKIV for my assmarines. I'm not sure if I'll convert with sang guard packs or just get new models.

Anyway, I like MkIII, too.

>>52193192
Chaos Raptors don't use MK V technically, since MK V jump packs are 'whatever jump pack is available'

Those ones and Raptors seem to be MK II style

>>52193168
Oh yes, that's the one I was thinking about.
Converting the sword into a giant hammer, maybe.

>Bunch of SoS face Magnus with Guilliman
>He throws a warp blast at them, despite both knowing what they are, what nulls are and having millennia to deal with them
>He throws another blasts, despite last one failing to do shit
>He then decides to run in melee while SoS debuff the shit out of him
>Instead of just fucking throwing few thousands tons of ship at them as he did just a page ago
>TWICE

I know that writing is not GW's strong suit, but holy shit, why would introduce the problem for your villain that could be solved by something he did just a minute ago and then have him not do it for literally not reason?

>>52192722
>My plan to balance this was to cap the squad at 5 men, and also make it count as a Lord of War option in a CAD
lol oh no. 5 heavy flamers/reaper autocannons

>>52193228
Then it's fine. Do the Emperors work, anon!

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>>52193192

>I wonder what those thrusters are from because I would love to have a bunch.

They're Rogue Trader era packs. I've been trying to find more because ideally I'd have a full 10 man squad instead of 5, they show up on ebay from time to time.

They offset the balance on plastic models though, I had to glue a nickel into the base of all of them so they'd stop tipping over so easy.

I'll probably just try and scour some bits sites and hope someone has redone them in resin.

>>52193263
>what is primarch vs primarch
>what is honour

>>52192516
Sure. Also his name is Sigmar and it's hilarious how Fantasy players shittalk the dude Karl Franz and the german empire pray to.

>>52193263
Because if Magnus was smart he'd just fly around shooting D strength missiles until Rowboat dies... but that's not very cinematic.

>>52193307
Sentimental nonsense for nailbrains

>>52193362
Inconceivable concept for women and cowards

>>52193307
A video game where Knights, Vikings, and Samurai fight one another.

>>52193369
Sure sure Angron, now go beat down some more walls with your face.

>>52193002
BUMP . . .

Plz help, just getting back into the game after a few years absence. Need all the help I can get.

>>52193364
>Bereserkers have 2A base
>MoK is instead of rolling2d6 for charhes you may automatically get an 8" charge
>Death Throes becomes a special rule that lets you remove casualties at I0

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>>52193263

When have Primarchs ever been smart in fluff? None of their decisions ever make sense.

I wish Orks and Nids were good

>>52193460
At least they're cool.

>>52193353
>>52193447
There is difference in standard dumbness and this, anons. Magnus killed SoS later by burying them under bodies, and he smacked Guilliman earlier with a ship. He also wanted to shoot them at range, which is why he shoot a them.

I mean, why didn't they have Magnus wreck SoS with hailstorm of supersonic rock, and then have their blood paint Guillimans armor, making him resistant to Warp fuckery?

>>52193445

>automatically get an 8" charge
Fuck off.

>>52193513
Gathering Storm 3: Rowboats Rising

>>52193515
8 is Khorne

Also,
>Found the Tauplayer :^)

>>52193515
>waaah melee has to be shit forever because I like autowinning
taufags should go

How bad an idea is it to bring either Cawl or Celestine outside an SoB/AdMech army? I desperately need a tank and their models look fab af

>>52193460
Nids aren't even that bad, I dunno why ppl complain about them so much

>there is a fucking Khorne codex
>world eaters aren't the posterboys
>no kharn
What's the fucking point?

>>52193567
They fit perfectly into any imperial army. I haven't used cawl yet but celestine is 10/10, and greyfax is decent if you know you're facing psykers

>>52193515
>less randomness would be a bad change
Taufag please go

>>52193601
Do you use Celestine with another unit or just let her loose? Pun intended.

>>52193543
Depending on what "their caliber" you're referring to.

With proposed changes
>On Charge, 2A +1 CC + 1A so 4 S5 attacks and with death throes they will get their swings off regardless.

They'd compete well vs Death Company.

Maybe tack on 1 in 5 Zerkers may take a Melee Weapon.

>>52193460
>I wish Orks and Nids were good
I just want GeeDubs to give the Boyz back the ability to actually loot shit, not this standardized 'Deffgun'/'Looted Wagon' nonsense.

There is nothing more satisfying than sitting there with a Looted Basilisk and dropping some dakka on a Tau Hammerhead gunship/Battlesuits and blowing them up so my Boyz could show those Fire Warriors how you're supposed to fight in melee combat.

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>>52193664
>looted Basilisk
You have to go deeper

>>52193565
>>52193530

>Hurr durr, Tau boogeyman!!

MoK on Spawn, bikes and JP infantry gives them 20" threat range that is *guaranteed* to make combat.
Combine that with the World eaters benefits of traitor legions and a turn 1 assault is easy.
Khorne CSM players are just fucking terrible and don't know any other tactic other than bull charging their opponents.

>>52193629
Both works fine. She's tough enough to leave alone and she adds enough power to turn any unit into something deadly. I've run her with vanguard vets, gave the vets a few power weapons, which is normally a terrible idea, but with celestine leading the squad she soaks up most of the basic shooting attacks aand shields the vanguard.

It forces your opponent to either target her with more shooting than they'd like, or use their big guns on her squad. Either way it free up your other stuff to do their thing

>>52193686
8" is on average 1" further than a normal charge.

1" is not going to break fucking anything, it just removes the dice rolling aspect. Random shit for the sake of random (e.g. riptide reactor) doesn't make the game better.

>>52193098
in some books magi go to social events as they are prime points to get new merchant trades and they do sell mods (sanctioned) for ships, equipment and of course enhancements

>>52193687
How cheesy is Celestine + Murderwings? Would people play with me?

>>52193686
>20" effective range
>Most basic infantry guns (besides Hotshot Lasguns, Shuriken Throwers, and Cancerguns being 12"-18") are 24"
>24 > 20

>>52193739
Murder wings are raven guard assault units right? Its far from cheesy but it's definitely good. Celestine alone is enough to trigger people, I have yet to have her fully die in a game. And if ppl refuse to play yo because of her, just taunt them and say they're scared of fighting girls

>>52192876
You need transports, the guard has a lot of shooty tanks and guys.

>>52192239
Make aspect orkz LD stubborn, they're they're too much into their way of war they're less likely to run

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>>52193680
Is that kind of stupid shit why I love them orks

>>52193785
Is it even possible to hate orks?

>>52193761
kek

Imagine Chapter Master statline with Jump Pack, Artificer Armour & 'Swiftstrike and Murder', which are basically Lightning Claws that lets you attack an extra time for each landed hit. IE on a charge you can attack up to 12 times

>>52193734
I now imagine thousands of techpriests chittering in binary like it's some old-timey bazar.
"PLASMA REACTORS! Fresh new PLASMA REACTORS! Buy now, and save yourself 5%, but only if you take tenthousand!"
"Rad weaponry, phosphex bombs, volkite weapons - we have it all!"


"Alright, we got white toasters, black toasters, spanish toasters, yellow toasters. We got hot toasters, cold toasters. We got wet toasters. We got smelly toasters. We got hairy toasters, bloody toasters. We got snapping toasters. We got silk toasters, velvet toasters, naugahyde toasters..."

>>52193761
Celestine like any model will die. It is a bloody d6 system those fail saves will happen.

I had her die against grotz, simply rolled enough ones for her to die.

Best thing about playing SoB is taunting people about being afraid of girls. The amount of stupid decision people make to prove you wrong is just delicious

>they removed the loot system from the Orks

What the fuck? Doesn't GW know that Orks players would give them even more money?

>but converting scares off newcomers
Then sell Looted Leman Russ and teach them how to.

>>52192340
Sex slaves for BOC (big orky cock)

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>>52193680
>>52193785
As some who actually owns a Looted Basilisk and used to field it all the time, the insanity/awesomeness of Lootas and other Ork hilarity is always a joy to see.

As a SM player, how much of your point value are you willing to spend on AA?

I'm looking at the auxiliary anti air force with two stalkers and a hunter, but that is over 200 points.

I've heard flakk devs are garbage, what do you guys think is a good solution?

>>52193822
If they are afraid of converting then they shouldn't be having this hobby.

>>52193686
Mother fucker 8" is an insignificant amount more than average.Go cry to the Ethereal about your problems with melee.

>>52193807
+ celestine with str 5 armour bane sword and a heavy flame. Two orbital strikes with both of them. For roughly 400 points you get two units that can effectively kill every t5 or lower unit + any vehicle in the game aside from LoW

>>52193835
why is macha such a maso slut

>>52193816
is closer to going to an apple store and seeing them talk to you like a kid trying to understand how friction works

with way more oil and incense of course

they are also pretty autistic in regard of talking as the first thing they try is speaking in binaric

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>>52193835
This is the best way to make anything "good" out of the servo-knight

>>52193861
That was the plan. Too cheesy? Maybe I can get away with the ' I'm a newb, won't you let me play like this? Afraid you'll lose? ' tactic

>>52193820
I'm sure she'll die eventually, but I haven't lost her yet. You can't tarpit her and nost units can't catch her if she runs, but two turns of shitty rolls will kill her, as they should. The fact that you can't just wtf lose her in one turn is what I like most

>>52193729

>Remove gets hot
>Remove warp charge, auto-cast powers
>Remove To hit, To wound and saves. Just mathhammer every attack
Great logic.

>>52193749
>"Guns can shoot further than a unit can get into combat!"
Ok?

>>52193900
She die in melee against Grotz, failed all her saves and fail her Not! AoF to revive.

Those grotz pay for themself for the next 10 games.

>>52193896
It's not too cheesy at all, like I said she can't do much agaisnt anything over t5 or with a 2+ save.

But her + murder wing will probably make horde armies cry.

Scale of 1-maximum heresy how bad would it be to use mildly converted Phoenix terminators as grey knights?

In a similar vein any goof alternatives kr conversions to the dreadknight? I hate the baby carrier

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>>52193892
You take that back
But you're right, aside from lots of greenstuff, orkifying it is probably the best one can do with this thing

>>52193937
Ohhh right, she can fail the revive save, so you can wtf lose her in one turn. I guess I'm lucky then lol. Those grots will ascend to the rank of legend for killing her. Just like my chapter master killing a full health wk in one turn with a thunder hammer

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>>52193892

>>52193931
Charge ranges never used to be random and the game is worse now that they are.

Also you're trying to defend the new psychic phase? lmfao

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>>52193892
orks make things fun

>>52193839
honestly, none. we're past the age of everyone being crazy of fliers and i hardly see them. last time i saw a stormraven my freshly summoned exalted flamer blew it up in the sky and killed a bunch of marines as well. really low chance but sometimes the dice are in your favor. i think i rolled a 6 three times in a roll on a single die

>>52193835

Ok so how to make orks good again...put orks on Eldar scatbikes led by a boss carrying a Farseer on a boss pole?

>>52193839
My anti air is usually just some flyer of my own. 2 storm talons with las cannons or a stormraven are better than the ground anti air.

>>52194004
That's extra heretical!

>>52193803
I don't know man, ask the guys that keep shitting on Orks and posting the >I2 meme

>>52193129
Anyone? I assume one of the Apocalypse books?

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>Orks are a melee race!
>I2

>>52194016
I'm inclined to disagree actually. The tanks with sky fire/interceptor have destroyed fliers entering the field before they can even shoot on more than one occasion. Interceptor is a pretty under rated ability

>>52194037
Those guys are just mocking the game itself, and deservedly so. Orks in fluff are impossible to hate

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>>52194032

>>52194037
>>52193803
Only Ork players know orks well enough to hate them, now the meme-spouting armyless "ork players" are easy to hate.

>>52194062
I don't actually know but I'm going to assume grots are just 40k goblins and thus not the same race as orks. So they won't get any bigger in size no

>>52193822
>What the fuck? Doesn't GW know that Orks players would give them even more money?
Honestly, the Looted Basilisk I had isn't even that Orkified (i was a newb when I built it, and pretty much just put some spiky bitz all over the cannon), but yeah, I don't understand why they did it either. Half the fun of Orks is we're supposed to be able to customize ALL THE THINGS you can go the standard route too, but it's more fun to make the army your own in my opinion.

>>52194079
Hating on game rules is one thing, for example I Fucking hate eldar in the game, but eldar fluff is pretty sweet and they do look really cool.

Even chaos in all its angsty teenage edge, is pretty cool. And as for the imperium? How can anyone dislike psychotic medieval space catholics

>>52192876
>No transports

Enjoy getting AP3 blast templated/mass autocannon'd to death as you footslog into their gunline.

>>52192876
>all infantry
>vs guard
You're gonna get tabled by turn 3

>>52193839
Realistically, unless you're facing a really flyer heavy list, you can often ignore a single flyer or two, provided you don't have a stupidly tiny model count. It won't do enough damage to earn back it's points.

>>52194134
warlock 'eadcrasher is a valued member and is well known for bench pressing wraithbone in his spare time. i really need to get around to building a warlock boy, warboy?

>>52193839
Not sure if you're alright with FW but afaik the Deredeo can be used as makeshift AA. Haven't fielded him myself tho.

220 pts =
48" 8 4 Heavy 4, Sunder
60" 6 3 Heavy 3, Pinning, Independent Tracking

Independent Tracking: This weapon may fire at a different target to that of the Deredeo’s other shooting attacks if desired and ignores intervening obstacles to line of sight in open terrain. When firing at vehicles, it attacks their Side Armour value.

It also has Helical Targeting Array: stand still and gain Skyfire + Interceptor.

>>52194194
>not knowing that eldar are actually more viking than space yiffs

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>>52194194
Can't hear you over the noise of my 10pt scatlasers :^)

>>52194010

2d6 charge range is fucked. No-one should fail a charge because they rolled snake eyes while charging through terrain, when they would have otherwise succeeded automatically.
The range of charging should be minimised so units aren't leaping 12" or failing 3". Something like 4+1d6".

>Also you're trying to defend the new psychic phase?
>Irony
>The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

>>52194197

> bench pressing
> s3

>>52194226
Question, why are scat lasers good? They don't have bladestorm correct? Wouldn't you just want shuriken cannons instead?

>>52194237
I...it's strength 4 for the first rep....

>>52194238
>not understanding history
>thinking space yiffs are vikings just because they look like vikings

>>52194197
Well, I was looking for a unique looking blaster archon to throw in small points games...

Cut off the tip of the shoota and put the blaster tip on it, add more spiky bits and a silly mask...should be an easy conversion.

>>52193022
Less is more Always has been.

>>52194011
Is that so? I'm totally ok with just running little anti air until I get consistently wrecked wrecked by it.

>>52194248
36" high strength, high volume of shots.

Doesn't matter that it's AP is shit. It will outrange most enemy guns, drops a bucket of dice AND on a model that can move 48" a turn AND may have Objective Secured.

>You don't hear people bitching about double Scatter Laser Warwalkers.

>>52194248
36 inch range on Eldar jet bikes...s6 ap6 heavy 3.

Now imagine a map spammed with bikes.

>>52194199
I actually have a mortis I'd like to use, but I don't want to get autisticly screeched at

>>52194248
The extra shot counts for a lot. Bladestorm is useful, but in a 5 man unit, you're trading five extra s6 shots for AP2 when you roll 6's.

Also, 36" > 24", even Tau and Skitarii infantry weapons cap out at 30", so with relentless jetbikes, you can stay out of range of most stuff and snipe, whereas the shuriken cannon, you're inside of bolter range.

>>52194228
The warp charges are part of the new psychic phase, I'm happy to go straight back to psychic powers from 5e where it was just a leadership test with perils on double 1 or 6.

>>52194194

>The only faction that has lots of fluff about giving fine ass maidens hot dickings
>Gay

Methinks the warrior monk locked up all alone with his "battle brothers" doth project too much.

>>52194294
It's Heavy 4 actually. And the bikes are Relentless, so it's essentially Assault 4.

>tfw really want to play Ynarri
>know the temptation to cheese will be too great

>>52194210
Ok, I am curious. Explain.

>>52194291
>>52194294
They're hvy 4 not 3, but even with the extra shot isn't it better to just use bladestorm cannons? They both affect armour the same way, both cost around the same, both range 36, but the cannons are better vs high armour infantry. I can see the drowning in shots theory but are you really drowning them in that many more shots? Isn't bladestorm worth losing the 1 shot?

>>52194270
>WAAC

Is that some primitive Mon'keigh slang for 'The Inevitable Result of Superior Eldar Technology and Craftmanship'?

>>52194307

I agree with this. I want to add that psykers should buy powers instead of rolling them, just like in 5th.

>>52194303
Ohhh ok the cannons are only range 24. I understand now

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Nice going you zoggin' gits.

You actually got me to open the cupboard I put most of my greenskins and hadn't opened in... zog I forget the last time I actually opened it.

Looks like I'll have to drop by my local GW store and pick up some of their overpriced plastic glue and super glue again, the glue I have has completely solidified. Probably the same thing for my paint, now that i think about it.

Hmm... Seems I also have quite a few Orks from I've bought from other players/purchased myself that I still need to primer/paint Metal Warboss HQs are a bitch to glue properly for me. Zog I was a lazy/impatient git back when I was active.

Seriously though /40k/, thanks for this.

>>52194294
I'll also add Eldar bikes can move 2d6 if they don't assault. Combined with their normal movement, they can hover right outside the range of your guns, poke in to exactly 36", and 2d6 fall back so you have problems reaching them.

>>52194341
As has been stated, 36" > 24".

Bladestorm doesn't effect things that much, it's only AP2 on a roll of 6, you're not going to delete terminator squads with it, and to get it, you're having to get within stormbolter range.

Scatbikes can hose things in high strength shots, completely free of retaliation from most infantry weapons.

>>52194341
>Isn't bladestorm worth losing the 1 shot?

If you were JUST losing one shot? Maybe, but you're losing 12". An entire foot. 24" puts you in retaliation range of enemy weapons. And Bikes are glass cannons.

>Also your Cannons reduce your AV effectiveness to AV11 max. Where Scatter hurt up to AV12. Minor, but makes a huge difference between killing and invincible.

>>52194337
I don't have the picture saved explaining it, but essentially eldar are an amalgamation of ancient pagan cultures. They have influence from Egypt, Greece, Celt, Norse, and various other mythologies. Space wolves are a sub faction of the imperium, which is a monotheistic Christian like society that worships one man as their god. Vikings didn't worship one god, they were pagan raiders who attacked coastal villages and cities, much like the eldar did in the early days of the imperium, attacking planets and tang wealth/slaves for their own benefit. Space wolves look like vikings but they aren't vikings, that's eldar.

What happened to the black library mega?

>>52194373
>All for just a 10pt upgrade

Whoever decided that was balanced and sent it to print should have melted down Sisters of Battle minis poured down their throat.

It's not like something that could slip under the radar and didn't appear until tournament players started cheesing, it's ridiculously overpowered from even a casual read of the book.

>>52194367
Noice tah see 'nother git 'as quite muckin' about!

I'll ask again, sorry for being annoying, but how good are Iron Warriors?

>>52192613
This guy sounds like a humongous faggot

>>52194428
>Implying it was malicious
>From the company that lets Marines charge out of Rhinos and takes 3+ Armour Saves from AP3 weaponry

Nah, they just don't care. To them if they want to charge out of Rhinos they just DO it because it's cool. So instead of fixing the core rules so everyone can do it they house rule it.

>>52194437
Not as good as Deathguard bikespam, which is the current favourite flavour of Chaos cheese.

They work fine.

Really, as long as you avoid Orks and Nids, there aren't any 40k armies that are utterly uncompetitive.

>>52194437
Blood of Kittens gave them a 9th place out of 9 in the traitor legions book.

>>52194248
3 scatterbikes are 81 points. they're cheap, objective secured, fast, troops, and they're easy to get a lot of due to the start collecting box

>>52194281
if you have to worry about something, i'd worry about the psychic phase since it's very easy to spam powers and get a lot of warp charges turn 1.

>>52194428
i think they did that because the spure comes with all the options, unlike say assault marines or havoc marines.

>>52194265
not a bad idea, but i lack any dark eldar bits.

>>52194428
We're forging a narrative and this works narratively for Space Elves to do.

>>52194458
I'm sure 8th edition will fix everything.

>>52194466
Really? I wouldn't have put them in dead bottom.

>granted Magnus is literally carrying his awful Legion from overpriced to Tournament Winning

>>52194466
Damn. I really like them. They aren't all that bad maybe... 6+ FNP across the board is kinda nice. I think the fact they get tank hunter is the best part. Tank Hunter is very goo honestly. Also, are Autocannons worth using?

>>52194466
Really? Weird. I feel like they'd beat out 1K Sons and Word Bearers at least, so long as you aren't leaning on Magnus or going full Summoning spam.

>>52194514
>are Autocannons worth using?

Yes. Utterly underrated heavy weapon, only appreciated by Guard players usually.

>>52194514
Autocannons are quite worthwhile. Obliterators as troops is also better than it appears, since you can get multiple single man squads to deep strike onto objectives to grab them for rather cheap.

Honestly I think their biggest problem is lack of marks. Being able to get Icons of excess to boost that GBP or Nurgle marks to improve the toughness of those Oblit troops would help a lot.

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Challenge; create a list that could beat mine in a 1500pts game.

>>52194062
Grots, orks and squigs are all related in the same way that nids are related to each other
They all produce through spores and an ork can produce grots and squigs just the same, but they are explicitly different generic offshoots

>>52194226
>Scat lasers
It's no wonder the Eldar fell to Slaanesh with such an all consuming scat fetish.

>>52194557
S7 AP4 Heavy 2 is very appealing. I'm probably going to get a burning at prospero since I love MKIII armour. I should get those legion autocannon sets off forgeworld

Are there any CSM units/lists that make you sigh and label the opponent "that guy", or are CSM too weak for that?

Also
>what units/lists make a guy *this guy*?

>>52194592
What? I don't even play or really care about Iron Warriors.

>>52194592
I play Iron Warriors. I love Iron Warriors. The fuck are you gonna do about it?

>>52194491
>>52194523
>>52194514
That's just it, they aren't "bad" they just have the worst synergy of all the legions.

the only non-situational thing they have is 6+ fnp.

Tank hunter is nice, but normally you brign meltas to bear vs tanks so tank hunter helps little, it's mostly of use with AC havocs shooting at light vehicles.

Obliterator troops is nice on paper, until you relize it's does nothing with their detachment, you still have to buy the costluy cult of destruction to field them, and ob-sec is a small consolation prize.

Everything else is re-rolls with weapons they don't really get in their own dex, bonus vs a faction very few play, stubborn when sitting in paid fortifications.

>>52194613
deathbike spam

>>52194613
Magnus can cause that.

Also Plague Bikers for T6 FNP rerolling 1s...

>>52194580

60 Astropaths.

>>52194638
What's a deathbike?

>>52194580
Dark Reapers in every slot.

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>>52194429
Still muckin' about a bit, Me'm still way behind on da latest rulesets. Especialey dis Lord o' Waa fing...

Yes, that's one of my army cases. I am a goofy git.

>>52194580
CDs + Magnus

>>52194660
Deathguard Biker.

>>52194580
Imperial knights with a bubble wrap of conscripts to prevent you from deep-striking in range with D-scythes.

>>52194142
>liking eldar

>>52194428
Same could be said for most of Codex:Eldar. Too bad GW doesn't do regular balancing cycles.

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>>52194580
I'll cut you some slack and give you a 100pt advantage

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>>52194580

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED

>>52194684
>not liking/disliking every faction for various reasons

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>>52194696
Bring it girlyman.

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/40kg/, I'm starting an army but I suck at making decisions, so far I've bought 10 scions and 10 vanguard, so this could go either way.

Which list will I have more 'Fun' with?

If I have a ton of bodies from HH but no rhinos, am I better off buying chaos rhinos or is the armored assault still better because of how much I'm saving?

>>52194791
Buy the AA kits, loot special weapons, sell of unneeded parts.

>>52194756
Nigga, you'll get blow the fuck up in one round of shooting.

>>52194801
That's actually a new cheetah pic I haven't seem yet, nice

>>52194822
Looks like a meerkat to me.

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>>52194367

>not buying super glue at the dollar store

>>52194755
>defending trap space elves

>>52194821
I can bring 6 more and stil have points left over

>>52194738
He said 1500 not 1850.

>>52194638
>>52194655
Would taking one squad of 5 with a Lord/Sorc make me a waacfag?

Yes, I am autistic enough to care about opinions of strangers on a Mandarin cartoon discussion board

>>52194837
You are wise anon. Very wise indeed.

>transports
Fucking sjws ruin everything

>Finish building squad
>One guy's legs and torso pose don't really match, make the model look derpy as hell
>Now doomed to forever be the first model removed as a casualty

Does anyone else do this? I have 'favourite' models in every unit, and remove them in order.

Dammit I missed all the cheetah posting! Why the fuck do I sleep?

>>52194962
They're not that overpowered. It's just lists that contain loads of them, especially since it's unfluffy as hell.

>>52194962
No, spam means 2-3 squads.

Do you think GW will make these steam dwarves a 40k/AOS faction similar to demons? I feel like the models are just futuristic enough to work in 41st millennium.

>>52195040
You need to include one of these in a Chaos Warband:
- raptors
- warp talons
- bikers

All of the are unfluffy as fuck for DG

>>52195071
God, I fucking hope not.

Steampunk doesn't belong in 40k.

Skitarii with their raygun gothic is as close as I'm happy to get.

>>52193664
so like 3rd ed codex, when orkz actually could loot weapons from other codexes?

>>52195165
>>52195165
>>52195165
new

>>52195122
>unfluffy as fuck
Where did it say "Mortation was a huge autist who hated bikes and jump packs so he said "fuck bikes and jump-pack I fucking hate them and you my sons may never-ever-ever use them at all you must walk everywhere" and then he threw all the things into a sun"

>>52194557
>>52194606
>>52194514
I think Autocannons are severely overrated. Every Guard player swears by them as the best heavy weapon for a Guard platoon, but they have let me down every game. They are wasted on infantry, very okay against vehicles, and while they are good at scoring wounds on MCs and GMCs, it's usually pointless because they all have 2+ and 3+ and a decent chunk have FNP.

Missile Launchers beat them out in terms of a variety weapon. They instantly kill Crisis Suits, Warriors, they pierce a decent chunk of MC and GMC armor, they can actually wound AV14, they can also get ignore cover to pierce through the various Bike unit's armor and cover, but then they can also decimate hoards with ignore cover Frags rockets and in general they can score more wounds against infantry units thanks to blasts.

Give Autocannons a shot, but I personally have been let down by them time and time again.

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>>52194580
fite me!

>>52193364
so fucking tired of people adding fnp to everything to try and balance it...

>>52195317
Can you blame them with how much ignore cover and ignore armor shit is out there? They need some kind of save for the unit to not be total shit.

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I know it's a list of knights, but how does this look for 1750?

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Not sure how best to run a sniper Land Speeder. I want to put Typhoons on it for sure, but I'm not sure about the hull weapon. Heavy Bolter is complete shit statwise, but it's 36" range and free, while the Multi-Melta is S8 AP1, but is 24" range an an extra 10 points. The former would synergize well for hunting infantry, and the latter would synergize well for hunting vehicles (albeit at a closer range than I'd like).

Opinions? Anyone ran anything like this before?

>>52193263
he got smashed in the head by a primarch seconds ago
sister's aura fucked him up so he didn't make a smart decision
tzeentch planned for it to be so
pick one or several

>>52192414
Alarielle