JumpChain CYOA Thread #1390: ZA HANDU Edition

>>52190891

See >>52190461
As for the secret question, we're not working on it quite yet. We're both still working on individual projects at the moment, but were enthusiastic about doing another collaboration and now felt like the right time to announce it.

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>>52190999
I thought this was a no lewd board?

>>52190578 #
I love the books, they are very good. Wizards are cheat powerful if done right because of flexibility of their casting but animages brute force their magic and get similar results. Demons are flat out awesome.

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How do you handle Plot Holes?
This isn't just a "how does your jump deal with blank" (though you can talk about that if you want to). I mean how do you, when thinking about your Jumper's adventure, envision a story's plot hole?

Is there some reality warping event that's causing it?
Or is it something that is just an error found only in our media, and not the actual world itself?

>>52191204
Characters are idiots is usually the best explanation.

>>52191204
>Or is it something that is just an error found only in our media, and not the actual world itself?
This.

In fact, most worlds are different than how they're portrayed in earthly media. Sometimes the difference is minor or cosmetic. The color of someone's hair, their name, or such. Other times, it's a fairly big difference. Like, glaringly obvious differences that make you wonder how our writers fucked up so badly.

>>52191204
Sometimes I can reconcile it with a fan theory, in which case everything works fine. Other times it's just the media that's wrong, and as a real universe it's something different. This can make for some very different worlds for stories where the plot holes were essential to their progression.

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Alright, I am starting on Sacred Gears today. How does the following sound?

1. A generic pre-made/canon Sacred Gear selection. You can choose any canon Gear or Holy Sword for a price (with the exception of the completed Excalibur), and the Longinus will cost 1k. Some of the ones with less outrageous effects may be cheaper, but I plan to put them under an umbrella.
2. Customization table for your own Sacred Gear/Holy Sword. Powerful effects cost the majority of the budget, the rest is aesthetics, utility, or straight boosts.

I'm brainstorming right now, so any suggestions are welcome.

Can anyone post the last MCU Part 2 WIP?

>>52191452
Yes.

Also import item to be a gear and an option to import an item you already own into your gear to take its powers.

Like instead of importing a scabbard that heals as a scabbard you could instead import the Scabbard as a ring if you already bought a gear that is a ring.

>>52191492
Who cares about it?

>>52191204
sometimes, people just do stupid, irrational shit, and things happen devoid of any greater meaning
much like in real life
that being said, I assume jump world have more internal consistency than the media depicting them

>>52191204
you are operating under the pre-assumption thatall universes are consistent and orderly This is not Necessarily so

>>52191452
I'd like to see some pre-made Gears, yes. You're a creative person, I think you'd come up with some neat ideas for them.

>>52191204
Our world is actually home to latent seers whos powets only work on other universes, granting them sight into great events. Sometimrs the visions are blurry and we dont really train people in the use of their powers so things get lost in translation. Still more detail then most seers give you.

>>52191452
Could we get some OC versions of Telos Karma and Innovate Clear? Those haven't appeared in the story yet, so that could be a fun way to have Longinus in the pre-made "original" section.

>>52191544
Well, clearly the guy asking for it, shit-kun.

Whats a good setting to import into generic parenting?

We probably aren't talking about zelda anymore, but whoever makes OoT needs to add some drawbacks based on Take This and Hero of Rhyme.

>>52191452
A sacred gear with the power to make people into animal girls (ears and tail type). It is sapient and completely in love with you.

Call it the deregear.

Demons of Astlan question;

Demon or Wizard?

>>52191642
You joke, but I am entirely certain that Azazel has made that. His things are mad science and being super horny, there is zero chance he hasn't made a kemomimi gun.

>>52191642
>That
No.

>>52191640
The guy's probably still around, I think he was making changes based on how bland the jump was anyways.

>>52191658
Demon.

Wizards are awesome no doubt about that but demons get innate buffs that are also awesome. Most of them are natural animages too and you could learn wizardry in jump since you already have magic as a demon. The only thing is they dont naturally get the wizard perks.

One of the BBEGs in the books is a demon who has been acting like a family of wizards for thousands of years.

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>>52191615
May...be? DxD is still ongoing and on the off chance I'm dead or unavailable when/if those are revealed proper, I kind of want to leave it blank.
>>52191575
The scale of Sacred Gears is a little...inconsistent, putting it nicely. I can totally make some up to list alongside some canon Gear options.

Not sure on the prices, yet. A Longinus has a set cost, but I'm not sure if I want to charge 300 for a go at the table or just grant a free canon/custom gear and needing to buy more. This jump costs a soul and a half already. Suggestions?

>>52191505
Importing items and weapons will be a thing, yes. Not sure about that second thing

>>52191642
While not exactly what you're after, there will be an option for a Gear to be sentient and/or a sealed Dragon/powerful entity of your choosing.

>>52191679
Nah, oot and mm are gonna be separate, remember?

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>>52191642
>>52191708
I read this incorrectly because the coffee hasn't kicked in and I am dumb.

The answer is: I am not against it.

>>52191684
This. Innate magic is always the better option, and wizardry boils down to rituals and knowledge that anyone can learn anyway.

>>52191711
Oh, I thought that was just Blade shitposting and stopped paying attention.

>>52191684
Couldn't you just buy one Animagic discipline and learn the others if you are a wizard?

>>52191670
I think it would be bought in every build.

>>52191666
Satan I am unsure if I can trust you but I guess you would know azazel best.

>52186284

I forgot a couple!

1. Various elemental rings for Capt. planet are very handy.

2. One of my favorite combos is Unity from enter the gungeon http://enterthegungeon.gamepedia.com/Unity

combined with Captchalogue Cards so I can hold as many guns as I want each of which gives a power boost to the gun I'm actually using.

>>52191666
Didn’t he make a Genderbend gun in canon?
Maybe Heavens could put that in the items list, come to think of it.

>>52191733
He wanted them together, but we convinced him otherwise.

>>52191452
Those ideas sound okay. I don't know much about the series, so I can't tell you if that fits the setting or not, but that sounds like it'll work.

Random suggestions:
A "punch things really hard" gear. That's literally the only thing it can do, but it punches REALLY hard. Maybe it even only gives you one punch with both a high cost and long cooldown?

A gear that deals extreme damage to anyone who's "impure" or whose mind contains "impure" thoughts, but is harmless to those who are "pure." Mostly to let you punish the extreme amount of horniness in the setting.

Effect that lets you burn away parts of yourself for powerups. Stuff like losing use of limbs or senses, but also intangible stuff like mana, ki, memories, beauty, emotions, etc. They come back over time.

An effect that grants you control over the immediate area and/or the people within if they're too weak or fulfill some kind of condition.

>>52191760
if You are interested in that kind of thing you can pick one up in kids next door

>>52191736
Well see animagic is weird. It is innate to the animage but they also have schools of the master diciple sort. They can pursue liberal studies and some do but most go all in for one kind of magic and train the fuck out of it because its hard to find animage teachers for some schools.

>>52191760
>Genderbend gun
I might take that jump for this item alone.
especially if there was a futa setting

>>52191708
>This jump costs a soul and a half already. Suggestions?
I'd say make us pay. I've joked about how everyone that matters has one, but there are other paths to power that characters follow, some of them quite substantial. So long as having a Sacred Gear is just one viable option instead of the only viable option, and from what I've seen so far of the jump that is the case, it should be fine for them not to be free. Makes people have to choose what path they're going to pursue, or if they're willing to pay the price to pursue multiple paths.

>>52191760
He did, yes. That's why I would not be surprised about a kemomimi gun, it could be based off of his prior work.

>>52191760
If we're doing shit like that, we might as well toss in OC stuff like a sexy beam or a flat-chest beam.

Actually, consolidating it all down into a "shapeshift other people" power might just be the way to go. You could even just use it as a "disfigure people to the point it inhibits them physically" ability for combat use if you personally dislike the fetish potential.

>>52191842
Transfiguration beam gear sounds rather liw power for this setting too.

>>52191492
Can't we just have NuBee and Val make it instead? Might be better off and we'd get it faster than a snail's pace.

>>52191842
There is nothing wrong with taking turn with your wife about who is the man or woman on thursday night.

>>52191787
So if I, as a Wizard, bought an Animage discipline that would make me an Animage with experience with that one dicipline. Could I or could I not learn the others through effort?

>>52191886
It is, however, hilarious to watch them panic when they think you left without changing them back.

>>52191899
I am not the jump maker but yeah probably. Some people have talents in certain areas but you could probably pearn the others if you had a teacher, a lot of it is just rough mana control forcing it into shape via willpower.

People dont trust a lot of animages since the time warriors or the mind reavers though so watch that.

How are the Demons of Astlan books?

>>52191917
That it is. Especially if they dont have fitting clothes.

>>52191962
I really really like them. The storys are on mainly 2 planes, abyss and astlan but they branch sometimes. Its a universe where a lot of pop culture and myths are real. Like doctor who exists somewhere, cenobytes exists somewhere, 40k may be real, lots of stuff in fluff but the stories are mainly about the demons. Its a fun series.

>>52191452
The ability to reskin your copied canon Gear could be fun. A lot of them don't have functions directly tied to their forms, and it could help make them more distinct by changing Boosted Gear into a crown instead of a gauntlet, or Forbidden Balor View into a tattoo on your hand instead of your eyes, or stuff like that.

Is anyone working on a Xam'd: Lost Memories jump?

I'm thinking about it.

>>52192280
>Xam'd: Lost Memories
I don't know why, but I could never get pass the second episode. And I tried to watch it three times.

But more jumps are always appreciated.

Do you think we could get these threads deleted if someone pulled a bancho and roleplay in the Parliament?

>>52192310
>>52192280
Don't worry, it'll never end up making sense. At all.

However, to answer anon's question, I am making one. I'd say... about 60%done?

>>52192280
Not that I know of. Go for it, anon.

>>52192328
Aw. Okay, good luck anon. Any idea when it'll be finished?

>>52191492
You know Red, shouldn't you be taking the hint and realize that trying to push yourself to take attention from your betters never works?

>>52191004
Hey You is the strongest fighter in history drawback is it possible to hide form the reporters if I have clones of myself running around or will they just ignore them

>>52192357
...Actually pretty soon, I think? I've been working for about a week now, so I'd say another week to finish up?

>>52192509

I'll swing the question by Val when she wakes up.

>>52192009
Seeing that you've actually read the series, how fucked would I be if both sides were out to kill me by taking the 400 CP drawback? I'm a demon with both capstones and every non-elemental animastery.

>>52191708
I guess it really depends on how common sacred gears are. If basically everyone in the main cast has them for most of the story, making them free or giving a surplus of points might be for the best.

>>52192593
Iirc everyone without a sacred gear or some other form of hax is basically useless. But it's like that in every shonen/LN.

So since Jumpchain has escalated past Asia's Wrath at this point anyway, is it okay to say stuff works like it does in canon instead of the arbitrary limits made to make it "kosher" with /jc/ back in the day?

>>52192651
Asura's*

Haha, yes, your jokes about that are going to be oh so hilarious.

>>52192509
You can't just ignore drawbacks like that. It might help a tiny bit, but they'll still find you eventually.

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>>52192593
So here's what I'm going with. A 'normal' Sacred Gear, canon or table-made, is 300. Longinus is 1k.

Humans, both to represent the fact they're born with Sacred Gears and to compensate for their lack of innate strengths, get an item budget of +300 CP to spend on normal Items or Gear. How's this sounding to yall?

>>52192651
Why do you even ask when you already know the answer? /jc/ is like some obnoxious 90 year old man, eternally stuck in the past, and extremly resistant to change. Just look at the answers the anon got in the past thread for trying to improve/build upon the old JoJo jump. Once a ruling has been made, it sticks forever.

What would you name a video game that has a villain play the role of a hero? And I don't mean the role of a protagonist, but a game where the villain is forced to be a hero.

>>52192651
Saying you'll use it how it is in canon would just be screwing yourself over. How it works in canon is that all Mantra relies on Chakravartin, so if you do that, you'd have none at all as soon as you left or he died.

>>52192726
Seems fair.

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>>52191204
I either ignore it, or don't have to worry about it since by the time it would've come up I've already changed the plot.

>>52191492

Damn, why can't other origins buy the Fighting and . . . Fornicating perks in Demons of Astlan? Is there some reason they are exclusive?

>>52192726
>How's this sounding to yall?
I think that, if this is how humans are compensated for being weaklings, then other races shouldn't cost anything unless their innate advantages are better than 300 CP worth of Sacred Gear.

>>52192741

Overlord? Technically speaking, that's what you do, at least in the first game. You save the townspeople and oppressed from the heroes who have been corrupted by their own vices, so you can take revenge and eventually rule what's left.

>>52192548
Well lility is basically in charge of hell and a lot of gods ate demons for reasons. Stick with the mc and you could be fine since that is basically his situation already.

>>52192726
Wats dat image from?

>>52192717
>You can't just ignore drawbacks like that. It might help a tiny bit, but they'll still find you eventually.

That isn't ignoring the drawback that's playing around it, like if a jump says you lose your left arm but doesn't say that you can't grow it back or make a robot one

>>52192651

The limitations were actually fairly reasonable extrapolations of the infrastructure and power requirements involved.

If you reaaaally need to get your Destructor on, with SupCom and Doormaker, you can launch a Von Neumann swarm of Mantra Transmitters through near-infinite Alternate Earths and collect as much Mantra as you desire.

>>52192509
Sounds like a wasted opportunity, desu. You get martial artists with dozens of unique styles who deliver themselves right into your lap.

>>52191204
>>52191289
Seconded. I rule out that the media themselves are merely echoes of the actual worlds. For example, the layout of video game worlds might be bigger and more realistic.

On the other hand, I try to avoid outright contradictions to the source material and prefer to assume there's some clever or esoteric explanation behind most plot holes.

>>52192767
Not sure, post tge doc plz?

But generally demons are adverse to having kids but D'Orcs are not, they actively encourage it. They are basically warrior saints of the orcs who acended (descended?) To be demons.

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>>52192870
>For some strange reason the 100/Free perks for D'Orcs are Free/Exclusive instead.

>>52192852
>The limitations were actually fairly reasonable extrapolations of the infrastructure and power requirements involved.
>Need dozens of planetary populations to reach casual Demigod levels
>only one planet
>the energy from souls fucking evaporate
No, they're not. Not at all.

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Jumpers, have you ever been confused with someone else?

>>52192904
>casual demigod
>casual

Reminder that the Seven Deities had been using the most energy efficient mantra harvesting method for thousands of years. Even back when they were the Eight Guardian Generals the war had gone on for a long, long time.

Reminder that yes, the souls do float off when the collecting demigods or Chakravartin isn't around to push them in the right direction.

>>52192900
Hmm yeah not sure why they locked them. The d'orc line is really good too.

Also wand of orcus and mount doom are fucking amazing items, it is a fortress that supplies near limitless mana.

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>not setting up your microverse battery to output energy in truly staggering amounts and converting that energy to mantra

>>52192992
It's what I do!

>>52192726
Sounds good to me, Heavens. I'm assuming the table will be balanced so that the extra 300CP is roughly equivalent to what the other races get for the investment of purchasing them.

>>52192961
Reminder that at the very least, that mantra was split eight ways. Probably much more considering how there are entire fleets and ships which rely entirely on Mantra. Reminder that Asura contended with Wyzen after being petrified for hundreds of years. Etc., etc.

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>>52192992
>not finding eight or so uninhabited planets
>not placing a single worshipper on each one
>not immediately turning into the Destructor from the almighty power of your 8 planetary populations

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>>52193095
Even I have never tried to twist wording that far

>>52193054
The customization table will be a subsection allaroundmearefamiliarfaces, so the 300 is just to 'unlock' it or buy a canon in its own place, yeah. So Humans get a point waiver on it, and 'only' have to actually spend 700 of their starting/drawback budget if they want a Longinus.

This is to compensate for the fact the Races get a host of innate abilities and free magic systems, while humans are...well, human.

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>>52192731
Better than SJW Tumblrina Teenager.

>>52193093
Reminder that doesn't say much when there's still an asston of mantra to go round. Reminder Asura is explicitly singled out by Chakravartin as an abnormally strong soul. Reminder etc, etc isn't actually an argument.

>>52193170
Really guy? You are getting worse than bancho.

>>52193145
Will Reincarnated Devils or Angels who chose human as their initial race get the 300?

>>52193145
Can we be a human imbued with draconic power like Issei?

>>52193300
Yes. You're likely still fresh off the bus and inexperienced compared to someone 'born' as a Devil or Angel, but you keep the benefits of both.

Most Reincarnated Devils seem to be Sacred Gear users, after all. This does restrict your choice of Faction, mind.

>>52193283
He's been worse than Bancho. Bancho is damaged and can't even really understand. Fist is just willfully retarded.

>>52193171
No, it says that it hardly requires multiple planetary populations. And there's no reason to think "abnormally strong soul" means ludicrously, laughably, hilariously high orders of magnitude above other souls.

>>52192651
Do a jump based on a quest, fanfic or spin-off and skip those limitations.

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>>52193337
>>52193283

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>>52192946
Well, we take canon powers that are usually exclusive to certain characters, so that happens quite a lot.

>>52193095
>Planets are actually just planetoids
>Worshippers are not even human or animal-based lifeforms

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How do you JUSTICE

>>52193538
Like any proper Kamen Rider should. I am the Fangs for the Fangless! I am he who fights the forces of evil, no matter what form they take! And I won't stop fighting until evil has been truly defeated and the innocent can live without fear!

>>52193379
I agree on that part at least, but my point is without a definite date we can't estimate what the prerequisite gathering amount of mantra is they needed to field demigods like that.

>abnormally strong so

There absolutely is. On multiple occasions Asura fights and kills demigods-including the one able to fight to a standstill with the other contender for the assumed strongest mantra user at the time WITHOUT harvesting it from souls directly, and his old rival-with no resources, exertion from defeating waves of gohma, barely any time to rest and long periods of COMING BACK FROM THE DEAD, something NO other character can do. He doesn't even have the advanced mantra reactors they do until near the final act where Yasha implants the karma fortress' into him.

Good grief, the man fought and killed the god who created mantra.

>>52192726
Looks good

>>52193455
There aren't any.

No seriously, I liked Asura's Wrath enough to go check back when it first came out. And there aren't any that've gone on long enough to build an actual setting out of compared to, say, Dragonball Multiverse.

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>>52193538
Like this

>>52193538

The same way I try to do a lot of things. Subtle pushes of influential forces or secret operations with evidence of my activity erased and evidence of someone else's activity planted, pointing attention elsewhere to form a closed loop. The fewer people that know I exist, the better.

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>>52193683
Concluded

>>52191204
We are the storytellers, but we get all kinds of details wrong. The Coordinator can't just make up worlds. They have to sift through the infinite variations to find one with a spot to insert a Jumper based on their background decisions, age, and drawbacks. So it's rare to end up in a universe that's truly canon. Because of this, plot holes tend to get filled in as best they can without snapping logic or local physics in half. So I usually don't encounter them. The only real sign they were there is a deviation from the "plot" of the world from "our" universe. Sometimes it's a sharp left turns, but other times it's small details that aren't really noticed.

It's surprising how close some of the universe's pop culture material matches up with our own. This is the entire basis of my theory of our universe as a Central Nexus point. If it wasn't, other universes would have vastly different versions of shows, books, and televisions shows. Some do, but it's more rare than seeing slight variations on well-known shows. Like Power Rangers in the Hellsing universe, where the main ranger team was Red, Blue, Black, Yellow, and Purple. Other than a few episodes changing slightly because of this character swap, it lines up startlingly well with the "Prime" material.

/theorycrafting

>>52191642
I'm so attaching this property to the Summoning Gun from Fire Emblem Heroes. Nekomimi Heroes sounds just awesome.

>>52192946
I was mistaken for the Commander of Project Valkyrie during my years in Ring of Red. Constantly. It eventually stopped when Major Lina shot a particularly rude Major in the thigh.

>>52193538
Inconsistently, but with the dual powers of Friendship and Desire when I take up the mantle. Kamen Rider Passion and Kamen Rider Grit defend the helpless, protect the innocent, and strike directly at the heart of villainy.

And yes, my belt still has the wacky sound effects and song intro. Mine went jazzy with the fusion.

Fucking internet

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>>52193683
>>52193723

>>52193723
>>52193683
You should know bancho that magneto joined the red skull in bringing back the nazis.

>>52193786
You should get that looked at.

>>52185374
>Calling Nocturnal bad because of legends from Skyrim
>When in Oblivion you interact with her directly and she's a complete wuss about people stealing from her, just sending you to talk them into returning it while restricting you from hurting them.
Methinks the first is simply Nine Divines propaganda, considering it contradicts personal interaction with her.

Skyrim in general gave a vibe of trying to make Daedra unambiguously evil rather than ranging from ambiguously good to unambiguously evil in behavior while being outside of mortal morality. Maybe because they were afraid the later would confuse their new audience.

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>>52193799
I know, but I'm like 80% sure this comic was from before that particular reboot.

and as my daddy always says " don't take funny books So Goddamn seriously"

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>>52192946
Way back when I used a...different avatar, I got mistaken for Edward Cullen of all people while tiptoing through the world of dreams. And before you ask-why would I want ANYTHING to do with Bella's dreams? No, it was Jacob. I was trying to see if I could gaslight him out of town by triggering the wolf instincts with a dream vacuum.

I stopped using that avatar for the rest of Twilight, even though a shadow person drew a lot more attention.

No one must ever know.

>>52193538
Justice is a mass delusion perpetuated by the mortal mind's attempt to reconcile the social contract with axiomatic morality. In other words, it's a useful tool for cohesive social engineering.

To that end, I infiltrate society at all levels with all kinds of metaphorical levels. I write into existence sentient meme-aggregates to watch over the internet, collecting evidence or blackmail material. I /strongly advise/ everyone who's even done business with me on who to blackball and when, and when that fails I put the bad guys in crippling debt with arcane economics. This is actually one of the end goals of my magical girl program: Through the ongoing scholarship program for their "retirement" once they grow older, I gain a network of idealistic, loyal professionals with the best possible PR around from their adventures.

And when I want to wield justice against someone-I use society itself as a weapon, cutting them off from all their resources, smearing their name in the mud, baring their sins for the world to see.

In short, I make judgements.

>>52191642
...wouldn't it have a vested interest in NOT using its' own power, then?

>>52193799
Honestly nothing triggers me so much as modern Marvel.

Captain America has been made into a Nazi twice in as many years.

>>52193786
you probably just like Gore and GDILFs . There are much more objectionable things to be into

>>52193829
Probably. The Aedra are fucking dicks. Not the mortals' fault they fell for Lorkhan's trickery while the Daedra fucked off.

>>52193860
>wouldn't it have a vested interest in NOT using its' own power, then?

I mean it doesnt exactly have a body, and who knows maybe it likes to watch.

>>52193829
>being outside of mortal morality.
So like most late-chain jumpers.

On a related note, I'm curious about some TES lore, being a complete novice at it. Is Akatosh the only one who makes Dragonborn style things or do any of the other gods/daedra stick divine souls in mortal bodies?

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>>52193829
I dunno, Sanguine was pretty cool? Azura just wanted her gem back. Clavicus Vile turned out to sociopathic 'cos a bit of him was split off into a doggo, and seems to be on the road to recovery once you reunify him. Hircine's pretty chill about who gets hunted as long as someone does. Sheogorath actually tries to help a guy get less insane, which is a first.

The rest are all either not present, or not terribly out of character; how d'you make Molag Bal amoral instead of evil without introducing Bueno Excellente to TES?

The only thing that comes to mind is Herma-Mora trying to screw over the Dragonborn mostly because he's being really petty about the Skaals' secrets.

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>>52193994
Uh, if I remember correctly: To make a long story short, the Dragonborn phenomena is unique to Akatosh but similar things have happened.

Basically, TES' cosmology is like some amalgamation of Buddhism and Lovecraft where all the cosmic beings are amalgamations/spawns of cosmic beings that embody vaster concepts. Also, belief and a specific order of conflicts called an "Enantiomorph" can shift around the "role" of these beings to the point where a chap called the Nerevarine became the chosen reincarnated hero of Azura mainly because he did things that fit the bill. Also, Sheogorath's implied to be a mortal hero who fought the PREVIOUS Sheogorath in his true for as Jyggalag, the sealed Daedra of Order-allowing him to walk free from an endless, futile cycle of trying to invade the world and taking Sheogorath's place as a consequence.

>>52194013
Meridea is pretty cool as long as you arent undead. Thats like her number one pet peeve. She also hates molag baal.

>>52194087
Dont forget the spears and maces being made out of dicks.

For instance the mace of molag baal is literally his dick that he wants you to go around beating people to death with.

>>52193906
Well humans are descended from those weak Aedra who decided the opportunities presented by Mundus were ultimately a good thing.

>>52191204
I was gonna respond with my own take on it but >>52193779 was way better at wording it.

Also I approve of nekomimi heroes shenanigans

>>52194110
Everyone hates Molag Baal. None of the other Daedra really associate with him.

>>52194013
Nocturna is fairly out of character during the 'thieves guild' quests.

>>52194185
That's just because up until then there was very little interaction with her. What interaction there was implied that she really didn't like people stealing from her, which I would not consider a defining character trait, more like a thing most people share.

>>52194312
You interact with her in Daggerfall, Redguard, and Oblivion. Skyrim is the only one to make her evil/hostile.

>>52194366
But she isn't evil or hostile in skyrim. She's Tsundere at worst, and maybe annoyed at a guy for stealing from her.

>>52194169
Vivec "liked" Molag Bal.

>>52194403
Vivec "liked" a lot of people, often without their consent.

>>52194312
>she really didn't like people stealing from her
Kind of a hypocritical defining trait for the patron goddess of thieves.

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>>52194421
Not really, see thieves are supposed to steal from other people. Not her.

>>52194421
I'm sure anyone can tell you...you can steal from everyone you like, but you DO NOT steal from your patron deity.

>>52194485
You don't have to deal with staying eternally young while all your friends die of old age if you run away every ten years.

>>52194485

It's usually not an issue in most worlds since you only stay for ten years. Sometimes people just have to go though. I'll cry, I'll feel bad, and then try to move on like always.

>>52194403
Vivic isn't a Daedra and only an Aedra in the loosest sense that applies to all members or former members of a mortal race.

>>52194513
Most of the recent jumps allow you to stay for much more than that.

>>52194529
If you choose to stay in a universe for billions of years, you deserve what you get.

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>>52194485
A shooting star would lose its beauty if it lasted forever.

>>52193860
>In short, I make judgements.
You're the worse kind of scum.

A lawfag

>>52194421
Many of the daedra are hypocrites though. Besides she did let a guy steal her skeleton key, and if he hadn't been such a dick to his fellows she likely would have let that one slide because she didn't do a damned thing about it herself. She's actually nicer to the people that stole from her than say Maven Black-Briar would be.

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>>52194421
>This character is a goddess of thieves, so that means they're okay with you stealing from them

???

>>52194485
That's why I have a million companions who drink my immortality potions so I don't have to make attachments and get hurt! ^O^

In theory. It's probably not gonna work for the Fate Grand Order jump when it comes out since I'm gonna get attached to someone who's gonna die anyway.

>>52194485
There are a surprisingly large amount of worlds with actual afterlives, and most of the ones that allow you to stay for longer than 10 years have them. It's rarely an issue.

>>52194679
Many gods respect someone who can challenge them in their own. A lot of gods of war relish a worthy fight. So you'd think a god of thieves would respect someone crafty enough to steal from them.

>>52194421
She's the Daedric Prince of the night and darkness, both physical and metaphorical. She's the PATRON of thieves.

She has nothing to do with thieves directly. Her blessings are just really useful to them.

>>52194840
The Daedra act like petulant children, anon. See Azura when the Dwemer hid something in a box.

>>52194866
It's her own fault for not realizing what the box was meant to do. The proper answer for the question asked of her was to say the box was full of Fuck you.

>>52194866
What's the deal with Dwemer anyway? They were dwarves that got their souls deleted or something, right?

>>52194898
They turned their souls into a giant robot, but the guy that was supposed to turn the robot on got lost and forgot.

>>52194898
They all did the metaphysical fusion dance and became a super robot with the ability to scream things out of existence through sheer skepticism.

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>>52194911
Wut...

>>52194840
While it is true that many gods respect those that can challenge them, it is also true that many gods do not appreciate such things. Take Athena from Greek Mythology, for example. Despite being one of the more 'chill' gods, she was enraged when the mortal Arachne boasted she was better at weaving then she was, and was further enraged when it turned out that Arachne was telling the truth. True, at least part of her rage also came from Arachne's arrogance and her insulting the gods, but she was pretty salty about losing as well.

>>52194934
TES lore is stupid

>>52194941
Well yeah, but Greek gods are just shitty as a rule.

>>52194485
Easier than I expected, due to circumstances.

Really nobody in my entourage is dying of old age.

So, under both Silver Millenniums, people stopped aging. Or at least, it became so slow as to be irrelevant. And, wouldn't you know it? You get like... Seven instances of the Silver Crystal in one place, and it stops happening to you too.

And to your companions.

And to your Non-Companion Underlings.

And to people you spend time around in Jump.

People have noticed, too! We've had to start dampening the effect, otherwise people wonder why this whole group of kids haven't aged since they were thirteen! They start asking questions! People want to do tests. They rarely find anything, not in modern worlds, but they get invasive all the same. And then after awhile, boring.

This is why I stopped having kids, too. No more till I get my TimeFort set up. One, because some of them are likely to have an instance of the crystal as well, and two, because who wants it to take ten years to go from infant to toddler? Not me, and not the kid, that's for damn sure.

Comes in handy though. Some of those jumps, like the gundam ones where you can be there for 40-200 years of history, it's nice to be a spry young man the whole time.

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Is there a Kamen Rider Heisei pt.3 jump?

>>52191204

I like to envision plot holes as actual errors in a universe.

I took "It's not a glitch it's a feature" from Super Smash Brothers fairly early on in my chain, so my Jumper tends to be a bit more aware of problems with logical issues in a universe.

Most of the time I just ignore it and go with the flow of the world.

But other times there are so many glitches/plot-holes that my Jumper decides to try "debugging" an entire universe. Marvel Comics

>>52194972

It's why Hephaestus is my "favorite." He was shitty too, but most of his shittiness was directed at other gods, so he was kinda like their karma. Hera sees he's born with birth defects and tosses him out of Olympus. Years later she sees all the nice things he made for his adopted mother and wants him back in Olympus so she could have nice things. He gives her a trapped golden throne that she couldn't get out of and she bitches up such a storm that Zeus is basically willing to give him anything to get her out of it so she'll stop. He gets Aphrodite out of it.

Then there's that other time he finds Aphrodite fucking about with Ares, traps them in a net, drags them around Olympus, then dumps her before leaving.

There's probably lots of stories about him being shitty to mortals or whatever, but he makes cool shit and is a dickhead to the other gods, so he's alright in my books. Relative to the others at least.

>>52195068
Faiz will probably be Part 3 whenever it comes out.

>>52194934
The entire Dwemer race were basically flat earth atheists who believed that reality was an illusion. They're right, of course, but they didn't quite understand as much as they thought they did. Motivated by their hilarious misunderstanding, they all concocted the brilliant idea of building a huge robotic god, stuffing all of their souls inside, and then telling reality to go fuck itself as they fly away. Except it all got fucked over and they all wound up stuck inside of their robot. This robot, filled with the collective souls of the Dwemer, all of whom believed that reality was bullshit, possessed the ability to tell things to fuck off so hard that they ceased to exist. But it couldn't do anything by itself. This very same giant robot was later used to conquer all of Tamriel, resulting in the Empire.

>>52195068
Kamen Jumper I believe is working on Part 3, Faiz.

Speaking of TES, post-jump, do you assume used soul gems still send their souls to the Soul Cairn, the setting's equivalent, or just into the void?

>>52195085
I think the only time he fucked with mortals was when he fucked with Aphrodite and Ares' descendants, giving them a cursed necklace that caused them and everyone around them immense suffering before they eventually died. And even that was just to get back at Ares and Aphrodite.

>>52192509

Yeah, she pretty much agrees with what I was thinking. They'd probably take notice of the clones and chase them around too for a while, but would always end up finding the real you even if you cover your tracks, as described in the drawback.

>>52195099
Reminder that the guy in charge of TES lore is literally high off his balls like all the time.

Also there's a canon chart of various Khajiit subspecies dicks drawn by his girlfriend.

>>52195142
I'd say the Soul Cairn, considering Conjuration still works the way it does. Or maybe the setting's equivalent... But probably the Soul Cairn.

Is it possible to have all Companions dump their CP into SP in any of the Fate/ jumps? Or just the one designated as Master?

>>52195166

Still workable thanks famms,

>>52195172
Bullshit I require proof of that spoiler.

>>52195172
Michael Kirkbride is no longer in charge of TES lore.

>>52195142
I would assume that they would work like normal soul gems do rather than black soul gems and basically release the soul when you were done draining it of power, letting the soul go to wherever souls go in setting. Really though the deal with the ideal masters may be in effect across jumps, but honestly shoving the souls of other worlds into TES has weird metaphysical implications.

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>>52195099
And they believed that shit as a RACE?

Nobody went "hey guys maybe..." they all just assumed they were right and Eva'd themselves.

Toppest kek.

>>52195195

No problem dude.

>>52195011

Hey Usagianon.

The Soul Eater revamp has the option to import one companion as a set of twin Demon Weapons like Liz and Patty.

Have you used it to get another Usagi?

>>52195205
So are there people in-setting who "waste" black soul gems on animals? Because I distinctly remember a few of those in there.

>>52195172
Reminder that Moon Khajiit is literally watching you masturbate through the currents of time and space.

>>52195293
Wut

>>52195230
Hey, managed to miss that Soul Eater had been revamped!

Huh... I wonder. if I twin her into soul weapons... and then twin each weapon twin with Twins Basil... then that's a lot of bunny for only one Companion Instance.

>>52191640
>not drawbacks for the light of courage instead
Honestly some people have no taste.

>>52195210
As anon said, they were basically correct, they even had an entire tech/magic system based off of their findings. It's just that they didn't realize that reality being a dream didn't mean it wasn't real, and they had no idea about the godhead. They should have looked more into what the elder scrolls actually are that would have fixed their findings.
>>52195243
They do, but realize that if you soul trap something, it goes into the smallest appropriate gem that you have. If you soul trap something with a grand soul, and all you have that can store it are black soul gems, it doesn't matter if you have common or greater soul gems, likewise if you trap something with a common soul but only have a black soul gem, it's going into that gem. Some people have had to have made the mistake a few times.

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>>52195305

Do it, Usagianon

Embrace your true nature.

Split one Usagi into four Usagis.

>>52195304
There are Khajiit on the moon in TES. They've set themselves up on the moon in order to observe Dragon Breaks, which is basically what happens when Akatosh spills his spaghetti and the flow of time collectively shrugs its shoulders and answers "So what happens now?" with "Yes."

>>52195188
Only the one designated as your Master.

>>52195198
Instead it's a thing, but I can't seem to find it now.

>>52195203
Really? Since when?

>>52195293
That too.

>>52195305
>>52195343
~Eating cakes by daylight~
~Capping evil by moonlight~
~They are ones who end all fights~
~They are Jumper! And Sailors Moon!~

>>52195343
Hm, going to have to read the perk text here. I don't want four girls, 1/4th the girl they were, I want four more whole bunnies. Checking it out though!

>>52191631
Medaka Box.

>>52192946
All the time. It's half the point of all my disguise kits.

>>52194485
I've made peace with death. People die. It's kind of one of our defining traits in a lot of settings.

>>52195394

It's an option in the companion section actually.

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>>52195390

And don't you forget it.

>>52195369
Kirkbride's last game credit was for Oblivion dlc. Though I have heard of him having been consulted for Skyrim, he isn't credited, so even if he was it's unclear what his involvement was.

>>52195355
Sonofa bitch I'm gonna have to figure out how to do this plot differently then.

>>52194485
Very hard So I made Magical maximized life extension Part of my nation's socialized medicine plan.

>>52195442
Oh, I thought he was still writing stuff in the background even if not directly working on the games.

>inb4 "For Honor when?"

>>52195705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8O44ufowa8

>>52195705
Whenever somebody figures out how to correcrtly do a perk that lets you toss people off cliffs no matter where you are.

>>52195394
I don't want four girls, 1/4th the girl they were

Well that's kinda what Twins Basil already does? It splits the original person's personality into two when it turns them into twins.

The twin Demon Weapons import in Soul Eater would just be doing it again.

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>>52194485
Very hard
That's why you become a magical hero who protects smiles!

>>52195820

You can actually choose to just retain the personality of the original in both siblings with the Demon Weapons import if you want. There are multiple ways you can go about doing it. Identical personalities, two new people made from divided personality traits or near identical with a few key differences. I believe Twins Basil also allows you to just retain the original personality across both twins.

>>52195820
Which is why I'm going back to read the exact text. I'm more inclined to do it if it's a duplication rather than a division. Looking like it just divides them though.

I may have a solution though. I'm working on it.

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>>52191452
>the Longinus will cost 1k
This sounds like it'll just cause one true build syndrome, since in-setting the only way to keep up with the plot is with a Longinus.

Jumpers, how do people respond when examining you or your DNA?

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>>52195831
Wait wrong image

http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/14/14930638/the-matrix-reboot-remake-movie

We finally have an excuse to make a replacement jump, guys. Someone call Val.

>>52195894
Laugh. Laugh at them as they go insane.

>>52195490
He is and because he wrote a lot of the neat stuff in Morrowind people mostly just go along with it.

How canon it is though given some of it is just shit he says on Reddit is up for debate.

>>52195894
As of Metroid they break down into fits
People usually don't try again

>>52195896
Shiroe?

>>52195868
>You can actually choose to just retain the personality of the original in both siblings
What do you do when they try to figure out which one of them is the "real" one?

>>52195894
Probably this >>52195913
seeing as I'm pretty sure my dna has turned into some nth dimensional horror by now.

>>52195932
Of course, the only way to do that is through sex of course. Together so we can compare.

>>52195905
You know if you just want an alternative Matrix jump making one for the super bootleg tier Matrix game instead would be a better idea.
It goes so far off the rails it might as well be it's own thing.

>>52195932

Personally I like to think of them as two new people even if they're identical to the original, but that seems like a case by case basis type deal.

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>>52195929
Primsa Shirou
He's pretty cool. Shirou with a little sister that makes him go full protect mode. He also has a randomly dark backstroy in the middle of an otherwise fairly normal magical girl show.

>>52195868
>I believe Twins Basil also allows you to just retain the original personality across both twins.

Wait what
>looks at Austin Powers

Oh yeah, it does. The perk says twins MAY have a personality split, not that it's mandatory. So you can have both twins with the same personality as the original.

I just interpreted it to mean that they always have a personality split. That's what I get for skimming.

>>52194421
Look, there are only two things you should be stealing from Nocturnal:

1. Her panties.

2. I bet you thought something lewd would be here, well you're wrong.

Just kidding, the second thing you should steal is her virginity.

>>52195894
they usually go insane from frustration and confusion ,the last xenobiologist to try found something that looked like a DNA analog in one of the miniature versions of myself that compose my body but when the spectrograph came back with "Error:sample does not contain matter or energy" she Just started laughing and didn't stop..

>>52196011

Yeah man, devil's in the details.

>>52196008
This needs to be a jump.

>>52196028

So it is.

BTW, was it you or Valeria who worked on Seven Deadly Sins? Because I have a question about that jump.

>>52196001
But I want Val to do it, she'll give us what we want and she's good at making replacement jumps. Best case scenario, it'll make Red give up and remake it to compete with the jump just like what happened with Dragonball, so then we get two good jumps instead of being stuck with a shitty one with that arbitrary stability nerf.

>>52196041

That'd be Val's Jump.

>>52196047
Val has never once made a replacement jump.
Honestly I don't know why I even bothered to reply. You've got issues.

>>52195203
And yet the writers frequently consult with him and put in references to things he wrote.

He's no longer in CHARGE of the lore, but the people who are at the very least consider his opinions and ideas to inform their own writings.

>>52196063

Ah. Well alright then. I'll ask her when she posts in the thread again.

>>52196047
>not wanting to live this glorious piece of shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvDeXaiBy3I

>>52195894
Pretty sure my DNA is literally impossible at this point, only held together by the mighty power of fiat. So they laugh at the absurdity that is my "biology".

>>52196006
Does that mean the original is dead?
Unless you decide it works differently in your chain?

>>52196066
To be fair, Val would be the kind of person to do that.

We're looking at DBM and Jorge Joestar on the resumé alone. And we know she doesn't have a good relationship with Red, meaning there's always a reason to do it.

I'm not advocating what the asshole says whatsoever. I'm just saying it has a chance.

>>52196047
Why don't you do it?

>>52195705
Can't you just do Crusader Kings? Or Assassin's Creed?

>>52196080
What's up?

>>52193799
Lol. What? Now the guy that was in a fucking concentration camp helps bring back the Nazis? Man, Marvel is getting dumber and dumber.

>>52195891
It isn't, trust and believe, it is not.

>>52196087

Nah, while they are their own people, they're also the old person as well. Personal views would be like reincarnation without the middle man, times two.
Also these are just my views on it. Of course you guys can fluff it how you like.

>>52195894
It looks perfectly human in every single test. Which is a little weird, since they got the dna from a giant squid-dragon alien.

>>52196035
It's a Nasu thing and I think it might have been claimed already?

>>52196121
Well I heard dragons are good too, but they probably cost about the same.

>>52196035
Batmanon's doing it.

>>52196092
Jorge Joestar isn't canon to the Jojo animes.

>>52196066
They might as well be replacement jumps, anon. Multiverse and now Jorge? You can't tell me that it isn't the intent, and look at >>52196092. I'd rather take Val's jump than Red's, and it's not like Red would say anything about it. Win-win.

>>52196096
Because Val's jumps are high quality which is what we deserve, that's why.

>>52196158
It's not?
That's odd, but good to know.

>>52196168
It's not. This was declared by Araki ages ago.

His bait is entirely toothless, you see, because he doesn't actually know anything at all.

>>52195896
>Herculanon
Hey Herculanon, are you still working on that CD jump?

>>52196106

Yo.

My question is about the Love Drive power in Seven Deadly Sins.

I get the generals of how it works. Make people love the user through intimate gestures, and the more intimate the more love they feel for the user. Willpower can resist but only people stronger than me can outright ignore it.

But how long does it last? Is it one of those things that needs consistent reinforcement to keep someone under your control? Or does it last indefinitely until you release them?

Also, if kissing a normal human on the lips with this power would already make them do whatever you ask... What would sex do?

>>52195894
I occasionally forget that my DNA is encrypted in the form of Glory Girl erotica, which tends to result in some pretty hilarious reactions when I give samples of it to people.

>>52196181
and DBM isn't canon to regular Dragon Ball. Your point?

>>52196186
Yeah but it;s a bit of a grind.
The series is long and has a bunch of shit that needs to be explained for stuff to make sense. I've got like twenty pages written right now.

>>52196192
...how the hell did you do that?

>>52196191
Far as we saw in series, it's a last until broken sort of thing.

Blow their minds I imagine. I'd imagine you're looking at less "devoted lover" and more "Total worship". Effectively the same since they're already doing anything for you but it'd change their attitude.

>>52196207
The point is to tell anon why the bait he replied to was wrong.

>>52196168
>>52196158
The likelihood of Jorge including things that the original Jojo jump didn't include, such as a Stand supplement or Kars-esque biology, is very high. The jump is likely being made with the intent to get things from Jojo the original jump couldn't get, like DBM was made to get things the original DB endjump couldn't get. That sounds like a replacement jump, anon, and like >>52196207 points out it really doesn't matter if they're not canon to each other. The point is the intent behind the jumps.

I wonder what he'd do if he lost power for a week.

>>52196246
Go to the library and keep at it probably.
Autism is a hell of a drug.

Rolled 3 (1d8)

>>52181926
172 Adventure Time
Fire Kingdom
Age 11
Wizard(Magic Arrows)
Wiz Biz, Beautiful Hair -100, Dungeoneering -200, Life Giving Magus -150, Archmage -300,
Card Wars -50, Tree Fort Seed -100, Spider Wand -100, Circlet -300,
Rather Be Dancing With Some Babes +200, Crushes +100,
I keep meaning to go adventuring, but there are so many babes and so many partys and Flame Princess is hot, but she isn't into me, just that Finn dude.
Continue
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3 The Gamer
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>>52196246
He's not a mod. He doesn't have any. Which makes it all the more hilarious.

>>52196135
Just be smart when you're fighting the wielders and make sure you use the powers you have well. Like, really, it isn't rocket science, other wise there would have never been any cases of Longinus Gear users being killed.

Furthermore, there are some sacred gears that can evolve to Longinus level under the right (completely and utterly odd) circumstances.

Racial abilities that would allow you power that could even override any kind of protection a Longinus offers its user due to their nature. See Koneko's Level 2 Touki and Kasha.

There's the natural (or not so natural) evolution of one's nature / power. See Super Devils.

The right combination of abilities giving you cheat-like capabilities. Out of Context tactics and abilities.

Longinus Gears are only top tier because their users have no choice but to be. Stop focusing on the equipment and realize that the warrior who owns it is your true opponent.

>>52196192
Explain how pls.

How can I be part of Gaia's Stepdaughters in Alpha Centauri without relying on disgusting braineating worms?

>>52196259
>Implying they'd let him hang around the library with all his autistic screeching.

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>>52196015
>Nocturnal's panties
Uh, anon...

>>52196266
The Gamer.
I'll need a new 3.

>>52196212
Awesome. I hadn't heard anything about it, for a while, so I thought that stuff with Bramastra had put you off it. Glad that's not the case, because I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

>>52196283
I'm so good I've already stolen them, bro. Step it up.

>>52196222

I see.

In addition, can the power be used to 'increase the settings' on someone it's been used on?

Using the jump as an example, caressing someone on the face just gets them very attracted to you. But then what if I kiss that person on the lips after that? Does the effect strengthen appropriately or does it stay as strong as it was during caressing?

>>52196266
Charles Barkley Shut up and Jam Gaiden.

>>52196298
Oh, definitely. That's what happens in series. The user tries to use it with a cute look and a caress but has to go all the way to kissing to seal the deal. So yeah you can update it later.

>>52196300
queued

>>52196319

Cool. Does that mean it's also possible to tone it down by being less affectionate with someone already under your control?

>>52196266
Infinicon
Dragonball Multiverse
Sburb

>>52196270
What gears can evolve to Longinus levels?

Protection is only one aspect of what they do, isn't it?

How strong does that make one?

Out of context stuff is excluded, you can make any argument with out of context stuff.

>>52196283
To be fair, the Daedra's clothes are probably part of their bodies, like people infected with the Blacklight virus.

>>52196339
Unfortunately no, the only way to lessen it would be to break it entirely and then reapply it.

>>52196246
It's funny because if ManyFist or bancho tried to make a replacement jump for Magi or Naruto by using fanfiction jumps, you'd all be screeching and shitting down their throats. Yet Val can do it and any attempt to point it out gets cried as "the shitposter"

>>52196295
...Now I want a way to make it so Noctural retroactively wore panties, just to steal them.

>>52196350

I see. Good to know.

Thanks for answering.

>>52196366
If Bancho or Many really really wanted to make a jump of naruto fanfiction I'd be down.
It would be wierd as hell, but I'd be down.

Now if they tried to make a straight up replacement then that would be bullshit.

>>52196350
You know, Charms in Exalted are magic, right? And they have to be consciously activated, like spells? That means you can use Infinity on them.

And doesn't that just make you mad? Kind of makes you wish you thought it through a bit better, huh?

>>52196221
>>52196271
Copious amounts of magic and biological know-how.

Not my know-how; I bullied a companion into doing it for me. Fuck biology.

Said companion then refused to undo it after I finished fucking with Panacea and I didn't want to put in the effort to undo it and it was actually fairly effective and funny, so I just left it.

>>52196366
You say that like people don't do that when either of those two make any jumps.

>>52196389
Charms are innate abilities not spells.
Infinity does not work. As has already been stated.

>>52196386
>>52196400
Stop responding to obvious bait.

>>52196391
So basically you just hand-waved it? Too bad.

>>52196366

DBM wasn't a replacement jump though.

Fanfic jumps have been a thing since German Hollow Quest and Magical Girl Noir.

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>>52196319
That looks like a neat power, especially if you are dealing with unhinged moon bunnies.

>>52196191
>What would sex do?
If they're already to the point where they'd willingly have sex with you, they probably love you enough that you wouldn't have to have sex with them for control purposes. Do not rape them.

This whole power has terrifying implications in regards to consent.

>>52196410
No, she said you have to "cast" it. If willing something to happen with a magic system counts as "casting", then activating Charms surely does. Also, kind of hard to argue Charms are innate when it takes millennia to learn a respectable amount.

>>52196427
I will never understand the fascination that some people around here have for this diablos ex machina.
She was a total asspull with nothing going for her.

Just waifu Simurgh or something. At least then you can say you have taste.

>>52196427

>Jumper defeats Kaguya with a surprise kiss on the lips

>>52196426
The only jump we had of DB before was the endjump. Then DBM comes out and the floodgates are opened, and there was a forced revamp to get rid of the endjump. You can claim it wasn't a replacement because "lol fanfiction", but it was a replacement in everything but name.

>>52196389
They're magic, but they aren't spells.

Now, Sorcery is spells, so I suppose you could Infinity up an Invulnerable Skin of Bronze, or a Benediction of Arch-Genesis, or a Rain of Doom, or even a Total Annihilation.

You're probably better off looking at D&D for Infinity stuff though.

>>52196426
It's bait.

>>52196446
Charms are not cast. That's the difference between sorcery and just charm use.
Using a charm is like flexing your arm not firing a magic missle.

>>52196447
Bunny girl goddess.

>>52196415
If you want a half-bullshit technobabble explanation on how I accomplished something involving physics, chemistry, or engineering, I can do that for you.

But Biology or Psychology is just going to result in me saying "Magic!" while doing jazz hands.

>>52196427
>>52196447
I don't understand it either. She has a somewhat neat design and some cool powers, though she doesn't fit with Naruto's artstyle, but barely any personality. Madara is much more interesting and handsome.

>>52196481
Get the one in Touhou then. She at least has a personality.
It's not like either of them actually look like bunnies.

>>52196458
Well she did betray her clan to get it on with a human king, didn't she?

>>52196458
The joke is that it's less ridiculous then Reverse Harem no Jutsu.

As a reminder, despite what the memes would have you believe this didn't actually defeat her. It just distracted her long enough for Naruto get in a single clean punch and was probably inconsequential in regards to the overall fight.

>>52196466
>not infinitying up magma kraken instead
It's like you don't want to be a natural disaster or something.

>>52196447
She's a bunny girl. She's literally one of if not the most powerful being in the world. She's pretty cute. And we have confirmation that bringing enough sexy to the battle can at least distract her.

And let's be honest. The people who are waifuing crazy monsters like her don't care about the fact that she literally has no personality.

>>52196475
How do you think magic in SDS works? It's innate magic that can be learned, and then "cast" with instinctual ease.

Charms are the same. You're manipulating Essence in specific ways to achieve a magical effect. It's just as much "casting" as Demons of Astland-style animagic. Which innately shapes lifeforce to achieve magical effects.

>>52196444
>This whole power has terrifying implications in regards to consent.

Oh no doubt. It's definitely mindrape.

But the thing is, that's my fetish.

Plus, I wouldn't actually RAPE them. It isn't really needed when there are tons of charisma and seduction perks available.

It'd be slightly less evil to seduce your target into bed, then activate the power mid-coitus.

>>52196520
Listen I'm not going to argue about something with you over this anymore since your first post was clearly in bad faith.
If you want to wank your dick off you're going to do that regardless of whatever I say.
I'm done. consider this a win if you must.

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>>52196514
Oh shit, yeah. You're completely correct, anon.

How could I forget Best Spell?

>>52196346
In order:

Any, but the circumstances tend to a unique combination of the user's desire, their situation, and what is powering / trapped inside the gear itself.

The protection they also happens to be pretty top tier and most times the final say in defensive capabilities. See both Dragon Scale Mail and Rex Regulus.(I keep forgetting the latter's name and spelling)

Super Devils are god tier, literally.

Oh no, you haven't seen the Out of Context bullshit that happens within the Setting. Examples include:
> Using the desires of a hormonal teenager to have him achieve the final step to unlocking his true potential.
> Ancient Laws state that these are the conditions for an angel to have procreate? Let's loophole the shit out of that to create a space where the angel is allowed to be as lewd as fuck while fucking.
> Gonna just use this toy to fire this random ancient object I found at this dude. He just cut it in-flight and now he's been sprayed in the face by one of the most deadliest poisons ever.
> Ah fuck, the most powerful being is glaring at and wants to fight. Hey! Want chocolate? (It worked)
> Same thing above, but instead bananas.

You get the idea.

Out of context doesn't always mean "out of this world" though this setting has those kinds of solutions too. It's meant to represent anything that's has absolutely NOTHING to do with the situation at hand.

>>52196135
There's also Sirzechs. I think he's what one of the noble capstones is based on and he's one of the top ten beings in the entire setting. Or at least powerful enough to make one of the top ten crap their pantaloons.

>>52196543
>was clearly in bad faith.
>"Where do you think you are?" - said by Val supporters to justify poor conduct

I invoke the 4-chan dick license.

>>52196447
>>52196496
>I don't understand
She's powerful, is exotic in a way that's still conventionally attractive, and has a princess thing going on.

Plus, she's bland enough that people can project whatever they want onto her. Her backstory and years of isolation leave her especially compatible with the popular "lonely" and "just needs to be dicked back to sanity" archetypes.

>>52196585
>"just needs to be dicked back to sanity"
that's a thing?

>>52196603
There are anons sad enough that they think their dick is all that's needed to fix people, yes.

>>52196585
Is there an actual perk to bang someone's brains back in?

>>52196585
Ah, I guess I can understand that. Though, despite being 'powerful' she never seemed to me at least, to have the sort of 'powerful aura' that other characters in the series did. Probably because she suddenly showed up and kinda jobbed a lot.

For all ya'll using Infinity, try out this perk from Circle of Magic.

>Old Patient Magic [100]: You have learned how to cast charms, wards, and protections over places that grow more and more powerful, stable, and hard to damage with age. A door you reinforced with magic a year ago will be tougher than one you reinforced a day ago, and a scrying mirror you made decades ago will be able to see further than one you made a couple years back. The growth rate may not be much, and it grows slower over time, but it does add up over decades and centuries.

>>52196627
>Using an SJ Chan jump
Kill yourself.

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>>52196427
>>52196458
You know there are far better ancient evil supremely powerful magical waifus available in the chain.

>>52196627
I suppose that would combo well. Although if you've got infinity you're probably better off just using stackable buffs ad nausium instead.

>>52196618
She's more powerful than Madara, but he was a warrior. Kaguya was not. Which is probably why Sause and Naruto were getting obliterated by him, but the tables sort of turned when Kaguya showed up.

>>52196603
If by "dicked back to sanity" you mean "in their mind the crazy girl becomes crazy for anon's dick and is reduced to slavishly devoted arm candy", then yes.

>>52196616
In James Bond, 007, yes.

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I finally found the perfect background music for this silliness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYkxN4_-JuU

The joke is that both of these characters are dumb.

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>>52196648
Good taste.

>>52196603
I assume so. It's closely related to "domesticate a powerful woman," and "he's bad, but I can save him!"

>>52196627
Add that with that garden in xianxia that has something like 1,000 years in a day or something like that? And next thing you know, a thousand year-old enchanted blade thrumming with power in one day.

>>52196663
Oh, for sure. More power and zero skill vs a little less power but more skill then anyone else, it's easy to see who was the more dangerous.

More thinking about like, you look at certain characters like Madara or Hashirama or A or Minato and you can go "That dude is Strong." just from the sight of them. But Kaguya doesn't really have that sort of feeling to her.

>>52196643
>Using any jump
End your existence.

>>52196648
I dislike that jump.

>>52196674
Heavens? Any chance for a weirdness censor perk?

>>52196674

>"KAGUYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!" screams one side
>"WUUUUUUUUUUUYAAAAAAA!!!" screams the other

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>>52196679
>>52196648
As uninteresting as Kaguya is, at least she's not actually ugly. Blegh.

>>52196698
Reborn's active again. Ask him if he has any plans for it.

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>>52196728
I finished perks a while ago, save for the possible capstone booster. All my brainpower is on making Sacred Gears, and my god, I am going to need it.

Just do your best to tune it out.
>>52196731
The true escalation in /jc/.