Warhammer 40,000 General

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Has this fella been debunked yet?

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Built a Deathwatch Captain with a Xenophase blade, storm shield, and shoulder-backpack mounted Grav Pistol.

Gotta clean heavily and base him and then time to paint. Kind of annoyed at the resin flushing in the top of the hand.

>>52165898
Yes

>>52165898
No.

>>52165898
Maybe.

I don't know

>>52165898
Can you repeat the question?

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>>52165938
DAMN IT TZEENTCH! Stop messing around ya lazy git!

>>52165905
I still don't believe the "Resin on hand" story, anon.

>'Your stance is defensive, yet not indicative of self-preservation,' stated the warsuit. Before he could reply, bolter shells detonated between the giant's jump engines, It's shoulder mounted blaster whirred around, obliterating the Primarch of the Ultramarines Roboutte guilliman running in behind it. It's energy rifle never moved from Antaloch's helm.

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So if I want a slaanesh force, should my primary detachment be EC kakaphoni with a cad of seekers and other shit, or should my primary be a daemonic incursion with a small kakaphoni in back? Also, here's a slaanesh wallpaper that hint get you judged. Great for phones.

>>52165959
>Implying it's not just super glue

>>52165975
Thank you GW

>>52165905
What is the medieval equivalent to tacticool, anyways? :P

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As much as I like 40k, I can't bring myself to spend money on it with all these rumors going around. It's anyone in the same situation?

I wish GW would just come out and tell us what's going on.

>>52166020
Lots of pouches, belts, scrolls, books, vials, daggers, etc.

>>52166020
Sword, shield, shoulder mounted crossbow, tons of pouches, and a dank helmet.

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Repostin' question about 2E storm bolters and termies: gotta kill fast, 6 models fast edition.

When using Rapid Fire + Sustained Fire, do you roll the hits together (so if one hit jams, the other still hits), or one at a time (so if the first jams, you can't fire the second)? If it's the latter, how does that work with unjamming and my second shot? Nothing says anything about interrupting rapid fire if the first one jams, but with GW, that's hardly indicative of anything.

Pic related is the relevant rules.

>>52165975
I can't wait to read about Guilliman bringing the Tau empire to it's knees.

>>52166034
I've been sticking tobjust buying basic Marines and expanding my AdMech force since I figured there's not going to be any spectacular changes tobeither of them.

And suddenly, new Marines.

>>52166034
At this point anon, I'm just collecting and hoarding daemons for no particular reason. Might grab some CSM too

>>52166034
I can pretty much guarantee you that since the very day Rogue Trader was released there were people saying the game was dying. There's always going to be doomsayers anon, just ignore them, the longer you wait to get into the hobby, the closer you are to it ACTUALLY dying.

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>>52165938
>>52165943
>>52165956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Za8HggalY

never change /tg/

>>52166034
Yep, I feel the same, everything has changed too much too fast and with the rumors of nu-marines it kind of leaves me wondering what the future will hold. If Adeptus Titanicus isnt out in April then Im just going to buy a Malcador.

>>52165956
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW!

+++ Grey knights (Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition v2017) (1844pts) +++

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Grey Knights: Codex (2014) v2010) (1844pts) ++

+ HQ (395pts) +

Brother-Captain (150pts) [Nemesis force sword, Storm bolter, Warlord]

Librarian (135pts) [Nemesis warding stave, Psyker [ML 3]]

Librarian (110pts) [Nemesis warding stave, Psyker [ML 2]]

+ Elites (686pts) +

Paladin Squad (346pts)
Apothecary [Nemesis force sword]
Paladin (banner+special) [Brotherhood banner, Psycannon]
Paladin (special weapon) [Nemesis force halberd, Storm bolter]
Paladin (special weapon) [Nemesis force halberd, Storm bolter]
Paladin (special weapon) [Nemesis force halberd, Storm bolter]

Paladin Squad (340pts)
Apothecary [Nemesis force sword]
Paladin (banner+special) [Brotherhood banner, Psycannon]
Paladin (special weapon) [Nemesis force sword, Storm bolter]
Paladin (special weapon) [Nemesis force sword, Storm bolter]
Paladin (special weapon) [Nemesis force sword, Storm bolter]

+ Troops (398pts) +

Terminator Squad (202pts)
3x Terminator (falchions) [6x Nemesis falchion]
Terminator (psycannon) [Nemesis force sword, Psycannon]
Terminator Justicar [Nemesis warding stave]

Terminator Squad (196pts)
3x Terminator (halberd) [3x Nemesis force halberd]
Terminator (psycannon) [Nemesis force sword, Psycannon]
Terminator Justicar [Nemesis warding stave]

+ Heavy Support (365pts) +

Nemesis Dreadknight (235pts) [Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis greatsword and power fist, Personal teleporter]

Purgation Squad (130pts)
4x Purgator (incinerator) [4x Incinerator]
Purgator Justicar [Nemesis force sword]

Decent grey knight list? Meta is super competitive but people certainly want to win

>>52166070
I already have an army, it's just that with rubles of various factions being squatted/changed I'm not sure if I should keep going into it.

I don't want to spend a ton of money if it's referred irrelevant within a year or so.

POST YOUR HOMEBREW CHARACTER RULES, FAGGOTS Because you know this is the only place you'll use them

The Crystal King (165pts)
>The leader of the Glass Host of the Apostate Kings, the minor Chaos Lord who goes by the name of the Crystal King is a brilliant strategist and fearsome warrior on the battlefield, who favors the use of ever-forward momentum, misdirection, and psychological warfare on the foes of the Apostate Kings. Permanently bonded to the Armor of Mosaics, an ancient armor of ever-changing Warp-glass that defracts and blinds foes in close proximity and possesses a Daemonic sentience, he strides forth into battle with his Plasma Pistol and the daemonic mace Mirror-Hand to harvest the foes of Slaanesh and turn their remains into works of Hell-forged glass and sculpture.

WS5 BS5 S4 T4 W3 I6 A3 Ld10 Sv2+

Wargear:
>Master-crafted Plasma Pistol
>Frag and Krak Grenades
>Aura of Dark Glory
>Mark of Slaanesh

Special Rules:
>Independent Character
>Champion of Chaos
>Fear
>Fearless

Relics of the Host:
>Armor of Mosaics: This armor is a twisting, ever-changing tapestry of blasphemous works to the Dark Prince, and embues its bearer with unholy vitality and incredible resilience to damage. This armor provides a 2+ Save and the Eternal Warrior special rule. Its bearer also counts as having Defensive Grenades.

>Mirror-Hand: A shimmering mace of unholy Daemonic power, Mirror-Hand is used by the Crystal King to shatter any and all that surrounds him that does not appeal to his Warp-twisted sense of fractal beauty.

Mirror-Hand is a Power Maul with the following profile:

S+2 AP4 Rules: Melee, Shred, Concussive, Blind, Daemon Weapon

Put him in a Bang-Bus with some Plasma Chosen or Power Maul Chosen and he wrecks face like the demi-god he is...but he has a habit of dying to other Plasma Chosen and massed Executioners.

>>52166061
>Guilliman bringing the Tau empire to it's knees.
>implying Rowboat will get there before Ghazghkull teleports in and wrecks the Tau's shit
Let's be honest: If anyone deserves to curbstomp the Tau, it's probably the greenskins. They've had to put up with being Tau target practice for waaay too long.

>>52165993
Damn Daemonette's a shortstack

>>52166168
How about a grand alliance of everyone fucking up the Tau's shit?

>>52166174
She ain't short, Fulgrim's just tall as fuck.

>>52165858
Played a casual 1500 maelstrom game tonight, Tau vs. Ynnari. Well, it was supposed to be casual. Ynnari player thought melee-focused reaver + jetbike list (no scatlasers) would be goofy. What was goofy is how close I got to getting tabled.

>>52166201
Do you even Waaagh, bro?

>>52166168
>Race that enshrines reason, technology, and progress and views violence as a means to an end get their shit kicked in by a race that lives fer fightan and whose completely illogical faith in their technology is the only thing that allows it to function at all

It's like pottery

>>52166168
>Orks
>wercks someone

>>52166207
then the artist drew Fulgrim wrong, cause that ain't him

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>>52166207
That's not Fulgrim; that's a regular lord.

>>52166207
>Fulgrim
Nigger that ain't Fulgrim.

>>52166273
Wow, Jaffar got an upgrade.

>>52166273
>Fagrim

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>>52166273
>his face when he learns that Eldar and Guilliman teamed up.

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>>52166207
She's just behind him. Angle of view makes her small relative to the lord. Also, thoughts on my slaanesh list problem? Also, I can't seem to find the aspiring champion in the csm codex, so could I just run him as a lord since I gave him a daemon sword (it's a portion of a princes sword) and a curved dagger with a jewel on the pommel?

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>>52166168
I take it back, I want this to happen, make it so GW, I command you!

>>52166331
Her hand is on his belt. She's reaching up for that.

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>>52166354
O shit, I always thought she was waving

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>>52166160
You asked for it, fellow faggerino.
I'm set on getting the model for this guy done and then using him if I ever find a way to transport a dude twice the size of a Kastelan with Mechandrites on his back.

>>52166040
just follow the sustained fire rules, man

>The player nominates the initial target and rolls to hit exactly as normal. If the player makes the to hit roll he can roll one (or more) special sustained fire dice to see how many actual hits are scored by the hail of fire.

A storm bolter rolls one die to hit. A rapid firing storm bolter rolls two dice to hit. For any of its hits you can roll 1 sustained fire die to determine the result of the shooting (since it's a sustained fire-1 weapon). Easy peasy.

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>>52166210
Tau list: CAD + OSC
>O'Ralai
>2 Kroot Units
>Breachers in Fish
>Pathfinders
>Piranha
>4x plasma Crisis in reserve
>Remora in reserve
>OSC
Ynnari list: Thing where he can double-soulburst, 14" for warlord
>Archon + Shadowseer + other guy + dflamer bomb with pinpoint webway
>3x reaver squads
>3x jetbike squads (no scatlasers)
>4x kabalites mostly objective camped

Turn 1: 3 units of bikes turbo boost (Hammer & Anvil) to surround my forces. I manage to kill the reaver and one of the jetbike squads, soulburst leads to 1 stealth suit and 1 kroot squad getting charged and killed

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>>52166243
Damn straight.

>>52166265
Orks are the only Xenos race to ever park their fleet over Terra. They're perfectly capable of wrecking any bunch of zoggin' gits when they decide to go on a proppa WAAAGH!

>>52166381
this is the worst fucking photo I have ever seen in my entire god damn pathetic life.

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So does anyone have PDF of rise of the primarch? I can't seem to find anyone posting it.

>>52165858
Is that fulgrim?

>>52166419
Are you memeing or have you been living under a rock? That's the Yncarne.

>>52166418
It is LITERALLY in the OP. I just double checked strictly so I can call you a blind nigger.

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>>52166387
Turn 2: Bomb warps in. Pathfinders get Psychic Shrieked, Broadsides and half of Kroot die to Dflamer. Soulburst kills remaining kroot. Fortunately due to poor positioning they don't do anything the rest of the game. Devilfish immobilizes itself. Jetbikes charge at broadsides and ghostkeel. Did I mention they have banshee masks? They do. Kill them and consolidate into more combat. 1 locks up with remaining stealth suits, 1 kills piranha drones.

>>52166106
I like it except for the Purgator squad. How are you going to get them in template range?

What effect does the Mark of Khorne have on a person? I don't know what the fuck is 'Rage and Counter Attack' supossed to represent.

>>52166391
>Orks are the only Xenos race to ever park their fleet over Terra. They're perfectly capable of wrecking any bunch of zoggin' gits when they decide to go on a proppa WAAAGH!

We don't talk about The Beast series in polite company

>>52166160
I'm actually about to get to work in Photoshop to make the Grey Knights Brotherhood formation actually usable in games under 3000pts. Not adding any rules, just changing the units required/optional.

>>52166381
Congratulations, you're a shit photographer. I've seen better potatoes and pictures done by potatoes

>>52166381
damn, youre still assembling this same model?

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>>52166441
Turn 3: Jetbikes charge O'Ralai, previously wounded twice by his own gets hot, he dies. Jetbikes multicharge into breachers and piranha, piranha lives, breachers die. Warp bomb kills Devilfish. Forgot about that part, it actually would have tied the game if it held the objective it was on. So would the Remora but it didn't come in. Crisis Suits drop, kill some Kabalites and hold a point.

Close to three hours, three turns. Felt like 5 with all the soulbursting.

Remaining Tau forces: Devilfish drones, immobilized piranha, 3 crisis suits + shield drone, Remora in reserve.
Remaining Ynnari forces: Jetbike squad, 2 kabalite units, warp bomb.

Lost by 1 point. Thanks objectives!

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>>52165898

>>52166464
>implying The Beast series is bad
Love it or hate it, the series is canon ya git, Ork Diplomats, Attack Moons with huge Ork faces and all.

And from the sound of things, it's loads better than the bullshittery GW's pulling with the Gathering Storm. Seriously, warp-fucking Cadia right out of the gate was just uncalled for.

>>52166331
The Aspiring Champion is the name of the CSM Sergeant equivalents.

>>52166460
It turns them into a Berzerker-lite. Blood-thirsty and angry but not enough to turn them into the raging dogs of Khorne, at least not yet. The Mark also appears as a dark red mark weeping blood, a solid brass tattoo, or something invisible to the eye but staining the soul forever in the service of the Blood God.

>>52166530
Whoops, 2 jetbike squads.

Lessons learned:
>shining spears are actually pretty nasty
>melee ynnari are competitively viable and not for casual play
>not being able to overwatch fucking sucks as a Tau player
>A hunter contingent would have been a huge advantage.

>>52166441

What size is that table ?

>>52166034

Honestly, this has been a question for all of 40k's lifetime. Pick a faction/models you like with a play style you enjoy and stick with it. Updates come, metas change. If you follow WACC and cheese you'll just be chasing a train that'll piss you off just to keep up with. As much as people on here complain about the sky falling, I don't see factions being squatted, there will probably be new models and a changing meta.

Soo...if it's the model/paint part you're interested in, go ahead and start whenever. If it's the rules meta that scares you...you will be in a state of perpetual terror from this game.

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>>52166537

>>52166391
>Orks are the only Xenos race to ever park their fleet over Terra.
Yeah and were BTFO on easy-mode, even without Spiritual Liege.

>>52166566
it's not about loving or hating Da Orkz, it's about GW backing shite ideas with shit execution

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>>52166160
Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka, The Real Version (225 pts)

WS6 BS2 S5 T6 W4 I4 A5 Ld10 Sv2+

Wargear
>Cybork Body
>Mega Armor
>Twin-linked Big Shoota
>Power Klaw
>Bosspole
>Stikkbombs

Special Rules
>'Ere We Go
>Eternal Warrior
>Fearless
>Furious Charge
>Independant Character
>Mob Rule
>Rage
>Waaagh
>Prophet of Gork and Mork: If Ghazghkull is your warlord and calls a Waaagh, he gains a 2+ invulnerable save. In addition units within 12' of Ghazghkull's unit equipped with Mega Armor can run and charge on despite having Slow and purposeful. The effects of Ghazghkull's Waaagh last until the end of his next turn

Gifts of Gork and Mork
>Adamantium Skull: Confers a 4+ invuln save and Rage

I still don't think this is as good as Ghazghkull should be

>>52166441
Jesus christ thats one barren table, if thats all the terrain you have then set it in diagonal so the whole table is covered in it and not just your deployment zones.

>>52166592
Ynnari assrape the action economy until it begs for mercy. It was pretty obvious even before people started playing it that they were going to be very competitive. Even a pure Deldar list using Ynnari detachment will be competitive. I honestly have no idea of how to reliably counter a jetbike Ynarri army.

>>52166530
Heyyyy, from the pic - did you try ballast point's red velvet yet?

>>52166441
Close up of that desert fish?

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Wait.

What if we had METAL BAWKSES of our own!?

not mine. I just really like this shade of red and am wondering how this was painted.

>>52166586
But how is this useful at all? Entering a Rage gives the person tunnel vision and makes them less aware of their surroundings, which is death in a firefight.
Imagine not being able to identify all surrounding threats because you can't stop thinking about how much you want to stab the guy shooting at you from the other side of the street. I don't really see any advantage.

>>52166658
the highlights are fucking gorgeous

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>>52166598
>>52166627
Three 4'x2' pieces. The X-Wing players got there first and had all the 4'x6'.

It's not that barren, each section had three terrain pieces each. I was expecting Dawn of War deployment when I set it up but we rolled a Hammer & Anvil mission.

>>52166672
Mark of Khorne makes you better at punchan' shit. Stop thinking

>>52166460
It grants them the blessings of Khorne, greater combat prowess. Khorne's all about that melee combat, man.

>>52166672
Nigga this is 40k stop overthinking it.

>>52166658
I recognize that trim
http://thedarkworks.bigcartel.com/

>>52166437
I didn't buy the Gathering Storm books.

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>>52166265
>>52166268
>tau are starting to get triggered at the insinuation of being roflstomped by orkz
THE BUTTHURT WOULD BE ETERNAL, IT MAKES ME WANT IT MORE!!!

>>52166715
I'm gonna be honest, that site name sounds suspicious.

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>>52166645
I actually haven't had much Ballast Point, those caps were my opponent's. Here's some of what I bring for objectives.
>>52166655
One sec. It's actually the color scheme from the eBay seller...

>>52166658
Looks like a brown flesh tone base gradually highlife do with lighter shades of brown to a edge of white or pink.

>>52166441
>painted fluffy tau vs unpainted cheesedar
Like pottery

>>52166441
aAre we ever going to see a table of fully painted minis with arms attached?

>>52166723
Oi, leave me outta this
>>52166268 (You)

>>52166721
>I didn't buy the Gathering Storm books.

First time here?

Read the OP.

>>52166516
Nah, I've just been busy with uni. Also, sorry for quality, my phone camera is fucked up.

>>52166210
Funny enough, I played a casual 1650 list of GSC vs. Ynnari the other day.

My friend conceded at the end of Turn 1 when I killed both the Visarch and his Incubi squad, as well as Yvraine and her Wyches, and a Wave Serpent, then my friend failing to kill anything but my 1 summoned Aberrant squad, with half of my army still in reserve.

It felt bad.

>>52166733
I think BigCartel is like another Etsy

>>52166696
Then why doesn't it give +1S instead of Rage and Counter Attack?

>>52166705
>greater combat prowess
In which way? Does it make them faster? Stronger? Better reflexes or durability? All that seems to be covered by the other Gods already.

>stop overthinking
But the other Marks make sense from a military standpoint. Why can't this one? How would a soldier benefit from this blessing?

>>52166160
Skaragnaz the flash (150pts)
>Skaragnaz is the warboss of the Razlands, an ork controlled world full of wonder and merriment for the boyz with enough teef to set foot on it. With amusements such as the rollakarts, hitt'emz, and da spinnin' top available boyz from all over travel to 'ave a go, filling Skaragnaz's pockets with lodz of teef, which he often spends doing up his mega armour for utmost speed rather than protectiveness. Some say the suit itself is the most impressive ride on the world.

WS5 BS2 S5 T5 W3 I4 A4 LD10 3+

Wargear:
Power klaw
Stikk bombs
Zoom Suit

Special Rules:
>'Ere We Go!
>Bulky
>Furious Charge
>Independent Character
>Mob Rule
>Waaagh!

>Zoom suit
>Modelled like more form-fitting mega armour with large motor on the back and rokkitz on the legs, free hand holding pull cord for engine
>Provides a 3+ armour save, 4+ invulnerable save and the "let'er rip!" special rule
>Let'er rip!: May be activated in the shooting phase, if done so in the following assault phase if Skaragnaz is not in a unit he may assault 3d6" and his power klaw is not considered unwieldy. Roll a d6 after using this rule, on a 4+ it may not be used again for the rest of the game.

>>52166672
Well it's a Chaos Mark so it also gives the bearer the ability to ignore pain since all they can think about is spilling blood. It makes them stronger and faster and gives them the skill they need to chop the enemy into even more chunks than they could have before. It's also not supposed to be a purely combat boon (although that's all that can really be shown on the tabletop.) Bearing the Mark means that unlike the untold billions that worship Chaos without an answer, Khorne has marked you as his chosen. He's claimed you. Like it or not, the bearer is forever in the service of Khorne, which many see as another step on the path to Daemonic Ascension.

Also Khorne doesn't really think I'm strategy, he thinks like an economist, except with blood. Whatever spills the most blood is the correct path for Khorne, he would rather win with a billion deaths on both sides than a billion on the enemy's and a million on yours.

>>52166624

>Baddest motherfucker in the galaxy
>Has Yarrick BTFO and LETS HIM GO so he can go back and build up
Why?
>So Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka can come and STOMP THE FUCK OUTTA HIS SHIT AGAIN
why?
>It was fun as fuck last time
>LET'S DO IT AGAIN!!!

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>>52166760
My pin vise in in the mail, so hopefully soon.

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>>52166488
Well I'm a cucumber

>>52166756
Eh *highlight*. That's also Vallejo dark flesh tone. I also don't know the citadel paint color but it's the same base used on Eldar and dark Eldar official hair schemes.

>>52166811
*in, goddamnit

>>52166786
At the very least open a new blank window on your screen. Give your camera an object to focus on instead of all that jazz behind the model

>>52166779
I don't frequent the generals.

>>52166769
Sorry I don't know why I linked you

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>>52166655
Here's it with one drone, can't find the other. Lost my sticky tack, so the engines aren't on.
It was an eBay buy. I'll post some of my color scheme in another pic.

>>52166537
FUCKING KEK

>>52166866
Nevermind... it looked better from a distance...
Wow and I thought my camo paintjobs were bad. Please tell me it was listed as "professionally painted"

>>52166811
>Well it's a Chaos Mark so it also gives the bearer the ability to ignore pain since all they can think about is spilling blood
Then why doesn't it givd Feel No Pain? People who go Berserk in real life are able shrug off bullets (until they bleed out).

>It makes them stronger and faster and gives them the skill they need to chop the enemy into even more chunks than they could have before.
Then why doesn't it give +1S/Initiative/Weapon Skill instead of a situationall +1A?

>>52166802
>+1S
The Icon of Wrath grants Furious Charge as well as re-rollable charges.

None of the other gods allow you to make more attacks, only attack faster or be resistant to attacks. Khorne allows you to overwhelm your enemy with attacks, and strengthen you.

Tabletop wise, a squad of 10 CSM with CCWs and Bolt Pistols has 20A. 30A on the charge. Khornate CSM with the same options have 20A. 40A on the charge, and with an Icon of Wrath, 40 S5 attacks on the charge. And for an army who's soldiers are lords of the battlefield, and willing to get into melee, that's a good thing.

Also, never underestimate the intelligence of a Khornate. This has led to the death of many a man.

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>>52166655
>>52166866
>>52166757
Ahhh he's working on it now he's got a color scheme picked out. But here's some of my models.

>>52165905
Outside of the hand that's a pretty fucking cool kitbash.

>>52166693
>It's not that barren, each section had three terrain pieces each.
Tau players actually believe 9 bits of terrain on a board is not barren.

Buddy the terrain is supposed to cover 40-50% of the entire table if you push it all together end to end.

>>52166881
It looks a bit better in person at least, though the stripes are kind of thick and blotchy. No, it wasn't listed that way. Paid like $17 including shipping off AA wargames or somebody.

>>52166885
>then why doesn't it
Because GW hates CSM. They had +1A, and replaced it with Rage and Counter-Attack.

>>52166885
Because it's a game and I'm assuming they didn't want to bloat the rules even further. If the Marks were super lore-friendly then the Mark of Tzeentch would make a model a ML1 Psyker, the rest would give FNP, Slaanesh would get 6' extra movement, Nurgle would get an extra wound, Khorne would get +2A +2S etc etc.

>>52166454
Deep strike or footslog, blobguard and blob tau are pretty heavy at my store, so flushing them out of cover was something I figured they'd be good at.

If I were to drop them I'd probably take a strike squad, since I want to stay greknights

>>52166892
I was asking about the Mark of Khorne, not the Icon of Wrath with is an artifact and not a blessing. I know World Eaters go Berserk which is why they get Furious Charge, but it seems the Mark of Khorne just makes you temporarily more aggressive, which is laughable when you compare to what the other Marks have to offer.

>>52166898
People usually tell me I'm putting down too much terrain. And that's guard, marine, and csm players.

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Word Bearers are cool. Chaos Lords with dual Lightning Claws might not be the best idea, but they look awesome.

Anyone know how this guy was painted?

The helmet definitely doesn't seem like Abaddon Black+Eshin Grey highlight.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turanid_race
Tyranides = Roaches = Turks

Discuss.

>>52166937
Mark of Khorne is also one of the cheaper ones IIRC, and Mark of Tzeentch is arguably the worst when it's one of the costlier ones and does jack shit on anyone that's not a terminator, an HQ, or warp talons.

>>52166907
But +1A still doesn't represent anything of what you said.

>>52166919
Fair enough.

>>52166814
Worth noting that bad motherfucker can also teleport all over the galaxy now thanks to Orkimedes. Or at least from Octarius to Armageddon.

Why?
>Because stomping giant bugs was getting boring and tormenting Yarrick's planet is always good for a laff

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>>52166960

>>52166672
That would imply Khorne cares if it's you or the other guy that ends up dying.

If you see someone alive and with a Mark of Khorne, he's either new and about to get shot in a firefight, or somebody who just stabbed everyone in his last one.

>>52166963
I'm talking from a lore standpoint.

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>>52166986
>lore

Are we really going here again?

>>52166034

I've put power armor orders on hold until I see what the new power armor's all about. I don't give a shit about Age of Emperor or whatever because my army will still be at least playable in that and I don't buy models for their rules.

>>52166981
So basically it's a 'blessing' that forces you to fight in melee to be effective, while letting you surpass your limits if you actually get there. I guess it's not entirely bad, but how do you actually get into melee in the 41st millenium while being shot at with bolters and plasma and flamers and shit is beyond me.

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>>52166160
>>52166470
So, here's what I came up with. Any input is welcome. A second, actually usable formation for Grey Knights. Sure, it ends up being a Nemesis Strike Force +, but so was the original formation, but you had to take a FUCKING ASSLOAD more units and the only added benefit was 3+ harness while the Grand Master is alive. Now you can use the NSF for <1000pt games, and this one for >1000pt games with plenty of opportunity to inflate points the total per unit very well and keep the familiar "Teleports behind you" playstyle.

Old Brotherhood formation: 2305 points base.
New Brotherhood formation: 1120 points base.

>>52166926
Purgators can't deep strike and footslogging GK is suicide unless they're Interceptors.

>>52167002
What?

>>52166986
From a lore standpoint, you should ignore the tabletop stuff then.

Lore-wise, if you have the Mark of Khorne, then you're a dude who's exceptionally good at fightning. It doesn't matter how you do it so ling as it's kot sorcery. Mowing dudes down with a Heavy Bolter as they charge at your bunker? This is fine, and is even part of the Khorne Daemonkin Warband, The Harvest's fluff. They prefer to defend than attack, so they'll steal (read: kill inhabitants) a fortification or Fortress Monastery, and slay the invaders who were coming in the first place. Slicing and dicing with a knife? Yeah, that's fine too. Lying your way out of a bad situation just to turn it around and stab them all in the back, literally? Yeah, that's fine. Just hacking at dudes with an axe? Yeah, they're all good.

Khorne cares not from where the blood flows, so long as it does.

>>52167040
Remember, Power Armor is as effective as the writer says it is. But Space Marines are extremely fast and strong. Try hitting a moving target, much less one that can run as fast as a cheetah and can easily rip your head off with his bare hands.

Speaking of Marks, you get them instantly the moment you pledge yourself to a God, or are you required to make an offering, sacrifice, or other acts of faith to get it?

>>52167048
Did you do this in photoshop or in MS Paint?

>>52167048
I'm fucking smart...It's 2045 points base for the old Brotherhood Formation. I had some extra units left in my total calculation. Still, from 220 points base for the basic Nemesis Strike Force ballooning to 2045 points base only to get 3+ warp charge harnesses seems a bit unreasonable.

>>52167040
Teleportation, jumpacks, land raiders, or just a shitload of similarly blessed dudes to soak fire.

These things work in the lore just not well on the table atm.

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So I've been wondering what to paint my IG army and I've been digging the idea of painting them in the colors of loyalist 39th cadians. How accurate do you think this post is for colors?

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/306351.page

What's your advice /tg/?

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>>52167040
>but how do you actually get into melee in the 41st millenium while being shot at with bolters and plasma and flamers and shit is beyond me.
Melee? Orks get there all the time ya silly git. It ain't dat 'ard.

>>52167080
Photoshop. I just smudge-tooled the old formation out and inserted a text box for the new one. Font is Georgia bold with bold on, I meant to use Georgia reguler with bold, but it somehow changed...

>>52167079
Marks are earned.

I wanted to get a Siege of Vraks style list going with World Eaters, Renegade and Heretics allies and a chaos or renegade knight. Can anyone give me some general tips? I haven't played since 5th and FW stuff is on the table.

>>52166168

Maybe, but whether Orks deserve it or not is irrelevant purely due to them being far too incompetent to ever pull off such a feat.

Who are the 40K equivalents of Americans?

>>52167079
I would assume there's some kind of metaphorical deal with a devil involved where you have to directly commune with either the god or an agent of the god and pledge eternal allegiance.

>>52167072
Ok, but how does a normal human achieve all that? If you don't have power armor to soak of fire the Mark is literally useless unless for maybe going full Allahu Akbar an urban fight.

>>52167090
Berzerkers have none of those things though. Which reminds me of their new rules giving them massive charge ranges and extra movement. Does that mean World Eaters were blessed by Khorne to be faster runners?

>>52167135
Traitors to the empire who live in a shit place, are constantly ready for a war whether with others or themselves and recent generations have focused on quantity over quality? CSM.

>>52165993
take the models you like more. After the kakophoni and small group of demons, If you're interested in only doing slaanesh you have more unique options in Demons but more generic options in CSM. Pretty much if you want to go full dicknipples its mainly demons, only a touch of dicknipples its csm

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Not mine, reposting from another forum

>Boyz discontinued, nobz are now the basic ork troop
>New warboss model, about as large as the sigmar one
>All resin/metal models and units discontinued, including deffkoptas and ghazghkull

>Ghazghkull dies to a bloodthirster on armageddon as he helps hold the planet against a daemonic invasion alongside Yarrick, who also dies when the planet falls and is destroyed

>>52167155

Gr8 b8 m8. The dark gods approve.

>>52167155

CSM don't rule the galaxy, though.

>>52167104
>What's your advice /tg/?
go for it

>>52167173
>Aliens suddenly fighting alongside the Imperium against Chaos

Hmm. Seems kind of reminiscent of the undead and basically everyone else allying with the "good" races to fight Chaos in the End Times.

So it's retarded and hopefully that shit isn't true.

So I'm having sensory overload on how to start warhammer 40K.
Where do I start? Set wise, terrain wise and such?

>>52167079
The Gods mark you when you catch their attention. If every mook who decided Imperium a shit got a mark then Chaos would win harder than even Carnac says it has.

>>52167179
No, they're trying to conquer it. I fail to see the point.

liquidating my entire 40k collection in preparation for the new edition

see you boyz on the other side

>>52167149
>normal human achieve all that
Remember, I said that it doesn't matter if it's melee or not, so long as it's NOT Psyker power. That's the big no-no. A regiment of traitor guard gunning down their ex-brethren or a rioting slave revolt hacking and smashing everyone and thing on a mining world are all things that can be Khornate.

But anyways, Cultists and Renegades are like Imperial Guard in that, against non regular human enemies (Most Xenos, Space Marines, Chaos Space Marines, etc.) they'll quite easily die, even if they have Imperial Guard equipment and training, as they're just normal humans. The same can be said for the Imperial Guard as well. Both sides only win due to sheer numbers. And as in both sides, the truly luckiest and greatest will find the greatest of promotions.

>>52167155

cant be CSM because CSM dont have a galactic hedgemony.

The correct answer is Ultramarines.

>>52167193
Any thoughts on the link?

>>52166160

Honestly, not sure how many points this guy would cost.

Garath Felrados, the Shadow Crowned

WS5 BS5 S4 T4 W3 I5 A4 Ld10 S2+/4++

Special Rules
>Independent Character
>Veteran of the Long War
>Bulky
>Deepstrike
>Fear
>Night Vision
>Stealth
>Champion of Chaos
>Shadow Tactics: Garath and any unit of terminators he has joined will not scatter if they Deepstrike within 6" of friendly Night Lords unit that is within 12" of an enemy unit, and can declare an assault on that unit the turn he arrives. Furthermore, Terminators may Sweeping Advance if Garath has joined their unit.

Relics of Nostromo
>Crown of Shadows: this ancient suit of midnight tartaros armor gets its name from its Iron Halo that seems to absorb the light around it.

Enemy units targeting Garath suffer -1 to hit in close combat.

>Fang and Claw: this pair of ornate lightning claws are a trophy from Garath's victory over Pholnik, the Cunning, a mighty space wolf leader who thought to best the Shadow Crowned.

Fang and Claw are a pair of Master Crafted Lightning claws with rending.

>>52167214
Read 1d4chan and lurk some more. The wiki gives you the flavors of the factions. Pick the one you like. Then start collecting. Make a tiny 500 point army with the list builder tool linked in the OP. Post it for comment. Then buy. Then make. Then play. Then paint. Then get more. etcetc

Also play the Dawn of War games. All are good except Soulstorm. I'd recommend you play the first one but the definitive experince imo is Dark Crusade for the 1st game line up and Retribution for the 2nd games exps.

Read the Ciaphas Cain books and the Horus Heresy books.

You are now a beginner fatguy.

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>>52167126
>irrelevant purely due to them being far too incompetent to ever pull off such a feat.
If there's one thing I've learned about greenskins, its that underestimating them as a bunch of incompetent buffoons tends to end badly, especially over in the Imperium (humies never zoggin' learn).

>>52167173
I swear on me zog, if those GW gits kill off Yarrick AND Ghazzy, they're gonna have a TON of pissed off Ork players.

>>52167212
more like the Imperials are standing at the top of a gentle hill, chaos forces are standing at the bottom and orks are halfway up so they just follow the path of least resistance.

>>52167267
>>52167214
And read gathering storm too

>>52167226
The link's about a different regiment, so I'm not sure it'll help you.

At a glance, with modern paint names... I'd probably do Tallarn sand fatigues with mournfang brown stripes and ushabti bone dots. Armour would be wazdakka red, with the highlight being a mix of said red and a bit of light flesh tone. Whatever the equivalent of elf flesh is these days.

>>52167289
Thanks senpai

>>52167267
Neat. Thanks anon-brotendo

>>52167149
A normal human rarely ever gets Marks. If they do then they have to do some REALLY insane shit, like killing an entire hive city with a mega-nuke or killing a SM captain in single combat.

Berzerkers are just that good, they're the kind of crazy that ignores any and all dangers, pain, or common sense and rush at the enemy with the speed and ferocity of a freight train. They also die in droves and are fine with it because they're crazy and Blood for the Blood God!

As for the extra movement, gameplay-wise it's so they can actually get a charge in. Lore-wise, I'm guessing they're in such a rage they're able to sprint towards the enemy with a speed only a Chaos God could grant. Slaanesh isn't the only one who can give the gift of speed.

>>52167214
So go through the factions, see if any call out to you, download their codex, read their fluff, see if you like it if not start again. Only faggots pick armies based 100% on performance.

Let's establish this once and for all


Celestine or Yvraine

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>>52167155
>still being upset over the colonies being a dying empire
>244 years later

Ya know what? you guys y'all have delicious tea but it was bound to happen at some point.

>>52166898
>Buddy the terrain is supposed to cover 40-50% of the entire table if you push it all together end to end.
miniwargaming pls leave

>>52166672
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RIjh_4XqG4OJksFRirNzpDYykGt5Dj-KuL1Y3fVp4NE/edit?usp=sharing

This is Kharn after Khorne just started taking an interest in him. Prior to this he had been a middling single combatant at best.

>>52167324
Yvraine, the burner of Craftworlds, the chaos bringer of Commoragh, bane of Aeldari.

>>52167149
Think of it this way. Squad sergeants and veterans of pretty much every faction gain extra attacks when you upgrade them, right? Having extra attacks with the same statline is indicative of having more experience, even if that is only reflected by an increase in melee competence on the tabletop.

Thus, a Mark of Khorne that grants extra attacks is essentially jumpstarting that level of higher skill and experience. Khorne isn't outright giving you skill though, he's giving you the frenzied do-or-die attitude to hone your skill or die trying. If you succeed, you're on par with any veteran when it comes to skill, and if you live long enough to become one yourself you'll be a step above your peers. And this skill can be expanded outward to other aspects of warfare that aren't covered by the extra attack, simply because the constant bloodlust will force you to seek more battle.

In short, while the other Marks of Chaos grant power directly, Khorne simply grants opportunity for greatness, which fits quite well into his philosophy on Sorcery and his followers doing their own work.

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>>52167048
Small update. There's a fluff reason why you take 1 Grand Master and 1 Brother-Captain and I had completely forgotten. Changed Librarians from 1-2 to 0-2. Minimum base point cost is now 1160 from 1120.

>>52167107
Yeah, but then what. Orks aren't designed for melee, they have no business there.

>>52166034
They are.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/12/big-news-coming-this-week/

>>52167300
Once you pick a faction on 1d4, read about them on the official wiki too. It's less memey and will let you see a side of your faction you might not have seen through the memes.

>Eight of the loyal primarchs come back
>Finally it's Rogal Dorn's turn
>We've waited a long time for this but finally we... fuck the what?
>It's Sigismund instead.

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>>52165858
Soulburst question here - when overwatching against units charging you during your own shooting phase, do you still get shooting phase - specific benefits? For instance, Wall of Mirrors from an OSC? We ran with the ignores cover part since I needed all the help I could get. The +1 BS from that or coordinated firestorm would be canceled by snapshot though yes?

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>>52167324
Yvraine brought BobbyG back
Celestine failed defending Cadia.
Yvraine >>> Celestine

What's on the rumor front for Tau and Necron?

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>>52167344
>>52167378
>Choosing a filthy Xeno over the will of the Emperor

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>>52167378
>muh shipping
you may as well ship calgar and guilliman instead, since there's something to go on there

>>52166034
inb4 it's just TRUSCALE space marines

>>52167397
Some serious heresy being committed on this thread, I tell ya.

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>>52166907
>They had +1A, and replaced it with Rage and Counter-Attack.
>new edition
>MoS gives acute senses and stubborn
>MoN gives fnp and stealth
>MoT gives adamantium will and and daemon special rule
Calling it now.

>>52167360
>Orks
>Not designed for melee
The Orks and their choppas would like a word with you...

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>>52165858
What does /40kg/ think of making a Monolith S.T.A.L.K.E.R. themed Skitarii Kill Team with these models? Any better choices out there?

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So can I sue games workshop for false advertizing?

>>52167373
wasn't he murdered and raped by abaddon?

>>52167444
Which models are those?

They'd make good Kriegers.

Who's the best living fighter in 40k?

>>52165858
Is it just me, or did that sword look really shitty by the end of the video?

>>52166972
>>52166972
Yes but +1 helps a lot more in the next rounds than +2 on the first round of CC

WHY THE FUCK ISNT THERE A MULTI PART PLASTIC INQUISITOR BOX YET. FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THE MODELS ARE SO GAY AND HES SUPPOSED TO BE THE BIGGEST PIMP IN THE BLOCK.

>>52167458
Pig Iron Miniatures Kolony Militia.

>>52167453
Would Orkz actually be this if you removed cheese like super-heavies, scatbikes, raven wing, decurions, and other shit from the game?

>>52167459
how do you define best fighter? by weapon skill? by how much damage they can do? if by weapon skill bloodthristers and avatars are ws10 while kharn is ws7 but always hits on 2s

>>52167492
no, orks just have a weak book and lack options.

>>52167492
No, because their own codex is still shit

And GW will never remove those things from the game because that is what makes money

>>52167472
>MULTI PART
honestly I'd rather just see a plastic ordo malleus and ordo xenos inquisitor show up at some point in the same way as greyfax did. Give us a nice looking sculpt for all the ordos, with the rest being left to kitbashes/conversions.

Converting your own inquisitors and their retinues is half of the fun, after all.

>>52167403
He quickly ditched old man though, while he explicitly wanted xeno lady to stay with him all time.

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>>52166672
Keep in mind this is just the most common depiction of devotees of Khorne, according to the fluff there's just as many who devote themselves excessively to military drilling etc. and even Berzerkers are given a lot less tactical credit than they deserve. In the recent series about Kharn the Betrayer he even stops for a moment mid battle to think about weapon trajectories and has to run some numbers in his head before charging.

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>>52167472


This guy, >>52167507 isn't wrong. I had a blast trying to figure out how I'd make a Malleus in Terminator Armor with Hammer and Psycannon while not just using a Grey Knights. Sure, it was a simple conversion, but it gets the job done. This was 2 years ago, but if I were to have made him now, I definitely would've put some more =][= style pimpin' bitz on him.

>>52167503
>by weapon skill? by how much damage they can do?
Moreso lore wise. Who would win if all the top named characters were thrown into a giant deathmatch arena together?

>>52167459
The howling bansee queen
logan grimnar
Abbadon when he can keep his arms on
maybe Dante

>>52167492
Nah, my group consistently plays nothing but simple CADs without any LoW or any WAAC lists with any army and the Orks still do fairly poorly.

They only happen to do better than nids, but only slightly from what i've seen.

>>52167377
It functions as a normal sub phase. Eg. If a soul burst leads to a charge during a shoot phase it's treated as it's own sub-phase so if the unit can over watch they can. Once the charge is resolved, the shooting phase is resumed where it left off. Any shots or whatever taken during that charge sub-phase are snap shots and the only actions taken can only be actions for or in response to a charge/assault. If when the shooting phase resumes and a unit that didn't shoot becomes locked in combat, they're sol and can't take a shooting action.

>>52167549
Probably either Abaddon, Kharn or Lelith Hesperax. I wouldn't have put Kharn in this catagory but in a recent book he actually fought Abaddon and was going toe to toe with him until an envoy from Khorne basically told them to knock it off because Khorne had plans for both of them. And Khorne only stops his champions from killing each other if they REALLY matter to him, like bloodthirsters and princes and shit.

>>52167529
Is this some advanced heresy?

>>52167529
>ditched
Being tasked with watching hearth and home is the opposite of "ditched". Remember that Guilliman is only sexually attracted to Ultramar.

>>52167549
in that case it's more about who's the toughest. kharn is a damn good killer but his power armor doesn't count for shit

>>52167393
Tau are forced to flee their empire when their empire falls under Tyranid, ork and daemon infestations, also motherfucking flare storms devours most of the tau third and second sphere worlds in a matter of weeks

>necrons thanks to Trazyn intervention agree to aid the empire to build new monoliths to fend of chaos but fuck eldars because those assholes are shit, also the Marine trapped in trazyn gallery is Sigismund who barely survived Abaddon's duel, apparently Trazyn have followed and attempted to capture Abaddon for millennia, he failed to get him but got Sigismund instead.

>>52167551
Jain Zar is pretty good because of her disarm and "Fuck you, RFG" abilities.

Kharn because he hits on 2+ AP2 and at really high strength. Kharn on a charge has been known to solo kill Super Heavies if he gets the first strike.

Smashfucker gets credit for being nigh-immortal so naturally he just wins fights through attrition and punching shit with a thunder hammer.

Girlyman because he is pretty beast in combat but he'll never get there.

>>52167533
>>52167507
While I've got some Inquisitor guys here. How is the best way to build both shooty and melee Inquisitor bands?

In thinking for shooty, conversion beamer/hellrifle with two monkeys, servitor multi meltas and multi melta acolytes and maybe a psyker

For melee, hammer and terminator armour with death cult assassin's, crusaders and priest/missionaries stuffed in a land raider

Any thoughts?

>>52167575
Abadaboo was toying with Kharn.

>>52167633
Abadaba was about to get rekt by kharn, he was Deus exed by khorne intervention

>>52167633
>>52167649
Fuck you both, they were on even ground.

>>52167628
Well, before the retarded "No battle-brothers in transports" FAQ, I used to put the Malleus Inquisitor with some Paladins in a GK Land Raider and give him the Liber Heresius. Bam, scouting Land Raider. Or. I'd do 2 Nemesis Strike Forces to fit my 2 Dreadknights and a Land Raider as a heavy support so I could turn 1 scout some Purifiers and the Inquisitor.

>>52167568
I should also add since you have a question about the BS modifier - this will only affect a snap shot taken at any time during a turn if the power gear or ability explicitly states it affects snap shots.

>>52167628
Whatever you do, you need at least a few generic and cheap acolytes to take bullets for the actual combat pieces.

Also for melee I prefer the rad/psycho grenade inquisitor. They make sure your dudes can make the most of that all important first round of combat.

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>>52167578
>Remember that Guilliman is only sexually attracted to Ultramar.
No, he closed biggest library on pain of death ending Ultramar's status as state of reason and knowledge making it as grimpderp as other Imperium is. Guilliman fucking hates everything except Yvraine.

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How jewy is this list

>>52167307
>Only winners pick armies based 100% on performance.
Fixed that for you.

>>52167426
>I2

>>52167126
>Implying in lore orks havent made a hobby of curb stomping tau at this point.

From outshooting them to stealing taukilla, orks have been making fools of tau in fluff for awhile.

Too bad they dont have the rules to do shit on table top

>>52167628
wouldn't you want plasma servitors and storm bolters instead of meltas since the monkeys' and inquisitor's weapons are Heavy? Also if monkeys upgrade conversion beamers range it gets wayyy worse.

For melee just crusaders, assassins and a priest, maybe Xenos inquisitor with all the weird grenades.

>>52167653
no, both in the fluff and tabletop abby can easily take kharn. the fact that he tossed kharn around and smacked him with the blunt end of his daemonsword stands out. though there's an odd point that abaddon wasn't that into the fight but he still lost a few black legionaries during the fight

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>>52167661
>Guilliman fucking hates everything except Yvraine.
Did you even read the book. Literally a plot point that he has to recognize he loves Ultramar too much.

>>52167665
Illegal as fuck cause you can't take two gatling cannons on a knight legally.

Unless Renegade Knights can, in which case, the fuck is that shit, why can't not-faggot knights do it

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>>52165858
I mean, I knew The Fallen were underwhelming but no one is talking about how overcosted they are?

>>52167720
Renegades can friend

>>52167720
Welcome to 2016.

>>52167746
>>52167758
That's some serious shit and I will now argue that my loyalist knights can do it cause if gay as heretics get those toys but I don't, that's unfair and bullshit fuck the imbalance I want to literally piss shots into my opponent's face.

>>52167745
It's nothing new. 20 points is how much Chosen cost with VotLW before Traitor Legions. Everyone knew that was overcosted then, but now it's better because it's free.

Fallen at least get ATSKNF out of it, but the lack of options is what hurts them more than anything.

How do quad launchers compare to thunderfire cannons?

>>52167769
What's that? Sorry, I couldn't hear you over my lack of Land Speeders, Grav-weaponry, Storm Shields, and Drop Pods that don't eat their passengers.

>>52167769
Well no ones stopping you from modeling them that way, but it's illegal and people probably will call you out. Also is your name R Kelly?

>>52167790
Oh boi you said it

>>52167809
I mean, it's kind of low-hanging fruit as far as complaints go.

>My loyalist knights can't commit tech heresy like renegades!

If you want to strap extra weapons to models in ways that weren't intended by techpriests, either play Chaos, or get some of those Deathwatch terminators.

>>52167790
Ask Crudface and Ward to fix your book then, nigger. Not my problem.

>>52167826
And your lack of double Gatling knights isn't mine. I'm simply pointing out how stupid you look whining about things being 'unfair'

>>52167665
>3 knights on under 2000p game.
Have fun nobody playing with you.

>>52167826
You seem unreasonably upset about these guns. Man it's just a pretend war game.

>>52167712
Yes, these examples only prove how he became more bitter and spiteful.

>‘We failed, father,’ said Guilliman, his words tired and leaden with sorrow. ‘You failed your sons, and we, in our turn, failed you. And now, to compound our arrogance and vainglory, we have failed all of them, too. Did Horus not say that you sought godhood? He built a rebellion upon that claim. How he would gloat, to see the Imperium now.’

>Anger surged through the Lord of Ultramar, and he clenched his fists with the effort of self-restraint. He imagined destroying this chamber, tearing it apart and hurling its wreckage around like a wild beast. He dared not, lest these strangers in his Chapter’s livery see through his facade. Though he wrestled with despair, the Primarch knew that he could not let his weakness show. Calgar, Tigurius, Agemman, all the others – they looked at him as though he were the Emperor himself. Guilliman was painfully aware of his symbolic quality, and of how desperate and dark the hour had become. He must show nothing but strength to his gene-sons, lest his despair taint their hearts, too.

>>52167853
It's 2000 exactly it's not under :^)

>>52167821
I'm still very disappointed because DW Termie can't take Assault Cannon with Storm Shield.

>>52167873
What a coincidence, my Terminators can take neither of those things even separately!

You have it really rough

>>52167866
>quoting a section that takes BEFORE the one I just posted
m8

>>52167882
>being this much of a whiny cuck cuck

Maybe next time you won't betray the Emperor huh?

>>52167890
>w-whiny chaos fags!

Really? Then why is it the Imperials doing all the complaining?

>>52167769
>>52167873

Think before you bitch, bitch

>>52167700
>Orks are a of goddamn force of nature in the fluff, but they're constantly screwed over time and again by GW on the table top

And CSM thinks they have problems...

>>52167890
I mean the whole galaxy turned their back on his teachings, not wanting to be worshiped. I mean Greyfax or what ever the new inquisitors name is didnt seem happy people were using psychic powers. That's none of my business though.

>>52167708
Fun fact, contrary to popular belief smacking someone with the butt of your sword is a legitimate technique and was used all the time during the middle ages.

>>52167890
Is it National Retard Pride day or what? That's the second time a butthurt loyalist has whined about Chaos responding to their whining.

>>52167585
That sounds a bit absurd

>>52167909
To be fair, orks are the go to cannon fodder as well while CSM is stated again and again to be the big bad of the setting.

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>>52167873
>>52167882
>mfw my wolf guard can do this
Wolves son

>>52167909
Nids would also like to not be fucked constantly. Even just like take it out a few inches. Let orks and nids breath.

>>52167922
>CSM are the big bad
>Not daemons

Lel

Orks and Nids are shit

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>>52167929
13th Black Crusade what?

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>>52167936
You hurt

>>52167920
Have you read gathering storm?, Trazy literally pokeballed a whole Horus heresy ultramarine company with dreadnoughts and all.

>>52167909
>he thinks an NPC comedy relief faction being bad is the same thing as the setting's primary villains and biggest threat being bad

Would anyone complain if I took Guardsmen, gave them capes and =I= bling, painted them black and gave them storm bolters and used them as acolytes?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12526982

Do it.

>>52167945
If anything, Orks are even worse off, since they're not only a lot weaker, but their problems can't simply be fixed by adding spikes to all the loyalist toys and putting them up for grabs.

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>>52167957
>not using Inquisitional stormtroopers

>>52167936
n-no!

orksies da best!

>>52167971
>but their problems can't simply be fixed by adding spikes to all the loyalist toys and putting them up for grabs
>Chaos is a generalist army with elite melee elements
>the melee part of the army is the main problem
Come on now anon.

>>52167974
Which one is the most delicious?, I would go with the king crab, mittens crab gives me the bad vibes.

>>52167984
I read that as come on me now anon

>>52167866
>Even as he said it, Guilliman heard the lie in his words. Amongst his brothers, none had been more idealistic than Roboute Guilliman. None had envisioned a brighter future, not just for Mankind but also for the warriors of the Legiones Astartes. That flame of hope had been a part of him for as long as he had lived. Even now, as it was smothered by darkness and woe, Guilliman realised that his flame endured.

>‘There’s hope still,’ he told himself, turning back to the window and placing one armoured palm against it. He stared out at the work gangs, labouring to repair the damage of war, and the Ultramarines stood proud and determined upon the ramparts. They had been born into this dark millennium, and had known nothing but the hardship, suffering and despair of unending conflict. Yet still they struggled on unbowed, despite the countless enemies ranged against them. Guilliman had seen a better age, one of hope and triumph. What right had he, a superhuman son of the Emperor himself, to show any less strength and courage than his followers born in darkness?
Yeah he's real fuckin' bitter and spiteful. Clearly he just hates humanity and wants to mack on your waifu.

There are really no PDFs for 7th edition codexes that aren't absolute shit?

>>52167988
snow crab

>>52167991
I mean I wouldn't say no.

>>52168004
Really? I assumed to because it is from a cold region it would have less flavor.

>>52167988
The blue crab might not be the most delicious but consuming it will give you its strength.

>>52167945
>Orks are 'comedy relief'
>The only other faction besides Chaos to literally park their fleet above Terra, and probably would've made the Imperium their bitch if Vulkan hadn't come been around to save the day
Comedy relief faction... riiiiight.

>>52166080
>never change /tg/

You're not the boss of me, now.

>>52167173
>Boyz discontinued, nobz are now the basic ork troop

Doubt it, I could see boys getting buffed so GW can keep miking that shitty mold now that its sold some ork specialists.

>>Ghazghkull dies to a bloodthirster on armageddon

If so its just a set up to bring back Ghazghkull Ascended of Gork and Mork or something.
Ghazzy Vs Angron on Armageddon if Tuska doesnt show up ill be deeply hurt.

>>52168005
I'll be over soon bby

>>52167995
>There’s hope still
i thought space marines weren't allowed to use contractions

>>52168042
>Not
>There is still hope

You had one fucking job geedubs

>>52168034
Imagine if bringing a sanctioned psyker within 500 meters of a primarch caused the primarch to blow up and take his entire battle barge with him, and the Emperor by sneaking a psyker into the palace and watching Terra explode.

They're the comedy relief faction.

>>52167988

Maryland blue is best.

>>52168042
>>52168060
Your days as a novice are behind you. Why do you still interpret the codex so narrowly?

>>52167995
Yet Kairos managed to imprison him using his feelings and succeed where all other chaos servants including primarchs failed.

>It had not been easy, for Guilliman’s mind was a pristine fortress of order and rationality, and his mental defences were formidable. Yet slowly, carefully, the deed had been done. Kairos had teased forth Guilliman’s guilt, his anger and disappointment at what remained of the Imperium, his fears for its future. The Daemon had intended to continue his work until the Primarch was quite mad before attempting this ritual, but the intervention of the interfering Eldar had forced Kairos’ hand.

If it was Dorn or Vulkan it would not work.

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>tfw the guard regiment you want to collect is metal.
Im fine with the basic dudes being this way but I do want to make more unique lords.

>>52168078
>If it was Dorn or Vulkan it would not work.
considering their rather extreme complexes and psychological issues in the post-heresy imperium, I doubt that

>>52168092
They were both blindly devoted, Dorn would love total war in M41.

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>>52167945
>Orks are an NPC Faction
>When Nids exist
Okay

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>>52168024

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>>52167924
Doesn't look like it's possible.

>>52168016
why would you assume that?

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>>52168092
>Dorn
>having sentiments or emotions
Wut?

>test-paint a Crimson Fist space marine
>it's so easy it almost feels like cheating
>actually having fun while painting
What is this feeling

>>52168148
>any model may take items from the Terminator Weapons list
Replace fist for SS

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If you include FW stuff (without titans), how do the factions change tier wise?

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>>52168082
>Plastic vostroyans never
>Plastic mordians never
>Plastic steel legion never
>Plastic valhallans never
>Tfw

Do we have a scan of Girlyman's adventures across the stars yet?

Or at least a enumeration of the important new lore shit?

>>52168151
what do you mean "what"? Dude had extreme emotions. Do you even fluff? The scouring is kind of a significant part of the 'Fists history.

>>52168174
Guard jump up a couple levels

everything else stays the same almost

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>>52168149

>>52168182
>tfw first one in the list is what I want.
might buy some dudes from a china recaster so I can try to convert them abit easier.

>>52168201
Is fw guard stuff really that good?

>>52167135
Tau.

Claim it's for the "greater good" whenever they get involved, even if it's purely to improve their own situation.
Win because their shit is better, but deny that fact.
Painful sense of self-importance.

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First time painting in seven years and I'm super happy with how this gold came out.

>>52168224
Looks good, maybe a shade darker on wash and a shade lighter on highlights would look nice though.

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>>52168199

>>52167173
boyz better not get fucking discontinued, I paid a lot of money and spent a lot of fucking time making my army of boyz

I only have like 50 nobz painted, I have easily 200 boyz though

>>52167944
So there really is a Necron poke master and Tau are being squatted to monolith minions?

>>52168224
Mold line in the left arm

>>52168063
>implying comedy-relief =/= dangerous as fuck

>>52168260
Tau will probably become vagabonds

>>52168259
>Tfw 150 models deep in guardsmen

Man I hope they never change that fucking sprue, I am not buying my whole army again at full price because I won't be able to get eBay deals.

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I just want to imagine what dialog between Emperor an Roboute was:
- My sire i heard saint Celestine was brought back to life by your powers, may i ask you why you didn't used that power on me? And instead it was xeno witch who took care of my spirit essence?
- SAY HER WELCOME TO OUR FAMILY SON

>>52166418
Third link under supplements

Those knight heads that forgeworld sells, do they fit standard knights, or only FW knights?

>>52168305
Sangy saw the Emperor in his future corpse form. The Emperor's mind is gone. He is unconscious. He is just ungoverned power with nothing directing it.

Celestine tapping into his power was not done by his will because he has no will.

>>52168305
>My son
>it's because literally everyone hates your faggot ass

>>52168148
RAW: Replace Storm Bolter with Assault Cannon, replace power weapon with Storm Shield.

Specifically possible because says "May take items from the Terminator Weapons list."

What codex do you guys want?

>Exodite Eldar