Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>52159901

>no grey knights in that image

Are they getting squatted?

first for eldarki eldari

>>52159936
>no emperor in that image

Is he getting squatted?

REMOVE ORKS
REMOVE NIDS
REMOVE SISTERS

>>52159936
They just got a new character and a joke formation that's 1880 points, so I highly doubt it.

>>52159901
>no mechanicum in that image
Are they getting squatted?

Chaosfags did nothing wrong.
Tyranidfags won't quit being cancer.

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Is it true Space Marines are getting updated models?

>>52159992
Possibly. GW did have "big announcements" coming soon

>>52160035
Makes me wonder: Does GW release/update stuff based on fan appeal, cynical profit motive, game balance, or something else?

Reminder that chaosfags need to post about their superiority every day or else you'll forget about all the times they're called superior in the fluff.

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What's the best way to run Terminators in an Emperor's Children force? I plan on picking up pic related once the separate kit come out, and I want to sort out what weapons to give them.

Hi all, my 1850 for casual games how does it look? I think it seems fun and fluffy but im hoping my friends orks don't table me

Wolfkin
Fenrisian Wolves x40

Wyrdstorm Brotherhood
Rune Priest [Bike, Mastery Level 2, Relic: Helm of Durfast]
Rune Priest [Mastery Level 1]
Rune Priest [Mastery Level 1]
Rune Priest [Mastery Level 1]

Lion's Blade Strike Force

The Inner Circle [Azrael]

Battle Demi Company
Chaplain

Assault Squad, Flamer, Drop Pod

Devastator Squad, Razorback

Tactical Squad, Razorback

Tactical Squad, Razorback

Tactical Squad Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod


Battle Demi Company
Company Master

Assault Squad, 2x Flamer, Drop Pod

Devastator Squad, Razorback

Tactical Squad, Razorback

Tactical Squad, Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod

Tactical Squad, Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod

10th Company Support
Scout Squad

What's gonna end society first, terrorists, nukes, or powerlevel shitposters?

>>52160085
They've said that part of it is the sculptors choosing what they want to make. Thinks like reviving guilliman were after a group discussion on which primarch to bring back.

Releasing shit that will get you the most money is the only smart business decision, hence more SM shit than DE.

Nth for Carnac :)

>>52160085
>cynical profit motive

This plus whatever the design team/Jes Goodwin wants to do, I imagine the team holds brainstorming meetings and throw ideas around to see what sticks then make it into a model and then write a codex/rules for it.

>>52160148
Tolerance, the price of tolerance is death.

ANIMES, WE NEED ANIMES!

>>52160208
Complete intolerance is also death tho

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>>52160264
You called?

>>52159901
Guilliman has wings now? He's becoming all the primarchs. Truly, he is the one spiritual liege.

>>52160196
Someone needs to write a letter directly to Jes Goodwin, not GW but Jes, asking him to show some mercy to the lesser updated Factions. He's a good man, he might listen.

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So what we learned from the new fluff is that the veil that separated reality and the warp was shattered a long time ago for some reason. The Necrons built pylons and spread them across the galaxy. These pylons separated real space from the Warp and isolated it. However, they were forced to sleep before they could complete their work but their incomplete work assured the continued existence of the galaxy as the pylons are the only things preventing the galaxy from sinking permanently in the Warp. The peace that followed was wrought by Necron cold hands.

However, as the Necrons slept, the pylons got neglected. The passage of time damage the pylons or outright destroyed them. As the galactic pylon network was whittled away by time, the power of the Warp that it kept in check started to get stronger and expand its hold on reality. But the Necrons have foreseen this and programmed the pylon network to reassign the work load of destroyed pylons across the network. It put stress on the remaining pylons but disaster was prevented this way. However, the Necron did not foresee the Eldar's great folly that resulted in the Eye of Terror bursting into reality. This put tremendous stress on the pylon network but the Eye was shackled into its place rather than annihilating the galaxy.

Years later, the HH happens and then the Black Crusades commenced afterwards. Having been told about the pylons, Abaddon seeks out and destroys the pylons across the galaxy increasing the power of Chaos dramatically until it reached the final boiling point in the 999 41M with the destruction of the Cadian Pylons. The remaining pylons in the galaxy are too few to prevent the Eye from growing and consuming the galaxy but their existence is buying time for the races of the galaxy to find a solution.

So what that said....how can you guys call Necrons "Bad Guys" when it is their work that kept the galaxy safe for 60 million years?

>>52160172
>>52160196
I see, do you think this is in part a symptom of the fans having very freewheeling spending habits: IE, they just mindlessly buy up whatever new thing GW makes?

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>See this on your bed

What do

>>52160372
ebay

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>>52160354
why didn't they just make scarabs and tomb spyders to maintain them?

>>52160372
wash my fucking sheets

>>52160372
>Find vacuum
>Give bed the succ

>>52160354
Because they're mindless robots bent on killing or taking over every body in the galaxy?

>>52160388
Because the Eldar would detect them and destroy them?

>>52160394
They aren't mindless though. They have feelings and goals.

>>52160390
This.

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>>52160398
then why didn't the eldar just kill the tombs over millions of years?

>>52160418
since when

>>52159901
If an HQ has a defined warlord trait do they have to take that trait or can you still roll for them?

>>52160418
only a few individuals

>>52160418
The higher-ups surely. The warriors too, but they are supressed by programming.

>>52160139
combimelta and claws are pretty swell.
dual claws on them all if you're a real man

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>find this on bed

What do

>>52160435
Because the Eldar eventually forgot about them, there's only one Craftworld that remembers the Necrons.

>>52160438
Since maybe 7 years ago.

>>52160435
Because the Necrons weren't a threat to the Aledari.

>>52160461
TRASH

>>52160461
The worst tau players are the ones that use GW's mono-pose for their suits

>>52160461
Burn it

>>52160461
ebay

>>52160354
>Chaos literally relies on the materium to feed it
>now for some reason Chaos wants to destroy it
Who writes this shit?

>>52160458
>>52160452
And who leads them? The Nobility and Cryptek caste. So the Necrons are not a mindless army.

>>52160490
Who wrote the Codex imperialis? Yeah, Rick Priestly.

>>52160442
It's locked, if they are your warlord, they have that trait, no ifs or buts

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so I play eldar and dark eldar and with the new ynnari faction has me crossed should I join up or stay stuck in my eldar/dark eldar ways?

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How to make this list fluffy? maybe robo-stormtroopers?

>>52160522
what difference does it have to you

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>>52160514
I feel like half of >>52160490 wasn't present in Priestly's design.

>>52160518
That's annoying, ORLY's is trash for basically anything. Guess he's good against Guilliman though.

>>52160191
Who is Carnac? New hero??

>>52160461
I'd take them to a shooting range

>>52160587
Carnac is the name of the Chaplain in the Warhammer 40k movie Ultramarine.

>>52160372
Use the models for parts, try to kitbash Robby in to Sanguinius

>>52160514
>>52160568
I always feel like people at GW who write Chaos as their villain don't ever actually read any of the existing fluff about Chaos and just make it up as they go along.

>>52160576
Oh wait just kidding he's terrible for that too.

>>52160264
If 40k was going full anime, I think Imperial Knight would be the way to go. You can make the rider a moe girl unlike Space Marines, plus shill that sweet mech. Plus the standard dark end for mecha won't be so off putting.

>>52160461
Remove

>>52160594
Post the shit I'm genuinely curious

>>52160576
Prefered enemy against independent characters, and by proxy, the unit they sit in
=
Trash
>tau players everyone

>>52160482

It's not canon any other way, fuck off, loser.

>>52160628
Or do a Sister of Battle kinda like the Claymore anime, fighting demons n shit.

>>52160671
It specifically does NOT apply to ICs joined to units.

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Because I was asked here is proof of Tyranids being capable of hate and petty vindictiveness. Tyranidfags try to keep your triggered levels to a minimum.

>Yriel plunged his spear deep into the rearing serpent. It keened terribly, and Yriel salivated as his weapon drank. Since the day he had lost his eye due to the spear feasting on the limitless hive mind, he had managed to control its fell power and its obscene appetites, but at this final pass he no longer had the strength, and the spear’s murderous soul overwhelmed him. He could not stop it feeding, drawing upon the infinity of spirit the Great Devourer possessed. Yriel felt the hive mind, heard it howl. It thrashed about, and Yriel was battered by its anger. Its thoughts were utterly, unimaginably alien. But one thing came through strong and loud. Hatred, hatred for this creature that had for the first time in untold aeons wounded it.

-From "Valedor" by Guy Haley

>>52160490

I have to admit 40k went to shit when they started writing about the setting from a non-imperial point of view.

Back then it was all short stories from humans writing about happenings and xenos, and the lore was kept grim and vague, based on speculation.

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>>52160560
im really into the lore and my black heart kabal cant be a part of the ynnari since vect already said he no like them. on the other hand my eldar are good to go. I just feel like the sense of difference in the craftworlds and dark eldar is lost in a mixing pot. Also why are the dark eldar so ok with working with eldar and mon-kiegh I mean the imperials have been a source of souls for them for a while now.

>>52160491
The warriors, who make up the bulk of the necron armies, do pretty much only what they are ordered to do. They have no free will, it was lost in the transition to their new bodies or whatever may be left is supresssed via their programming.
And the nobility usually sees them as just that: robotic slaves waiting to serve their masters wishes. Pretty grim desu

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>>52160696
>Something was wrong. A sensation at the back of her mind. The sensation grew teeth, became pain.

>Her soul was gripped by agony.

>Iyanna screamed, falling from the edge of the couch. The pain abated, then squeezed her anew. She vomited.

>The dead were dismayed. The blow against her raced out across her attack group, leaping from mind to mind. Wraithbomber engines guttered out. The Wraithborne’s sleek cruisers turned viciously, wallowing in psychic swell.

>Bright light burned at Iyanna’s soul. A long tunnel telescoped away, encompassing infinite distance. A tube stabbed through the fabric of the world. She felt its ripples in the warp. She felt its ripples in the webway.

>She had the sense of an eye, slave to a great power. An intellect that dwarfed the Great Wheel of the galaxy. She opened her second sense, to find the Dragon looking at her with terrible regard.

>For aeons it seemed it held her in its gaze. And there was fury in that examination.

>The Dragon was angry, and it was angry with her. Not with the galaxy, or this sector, or her species. But with her personally. The promise of endless torment came from it, her very being enslaved to its ends and used against others, her body rebuilt over and again so that it might suffer the Dragon’s revenge.

>Terror of a kind she could not have conceived of flooded her mind. She screamed again, and this time every eldar in the fleet screamed with her.

-From Wraithflight (short story) by Guy Haley

>>52160354
WTF I'm a Necron Cybermissile now.

>>52160628
>could make it like Tank Police
Sold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7odmUWQKg-8

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>>52160721
Or are they?

>>52159901
>Just finished reading the Rise of the Primarch.
>The ending suggest that Cawl is making new weapons for the Imperium

Is techno-heresy afoot?

>>52160761
Nothing is heresy if it's a revelation from the omnissiah.

>>52160761
New weapons doesn't necessarely mean techno-heresy

>>52160705
I think it's the opposite way around, making chaos want to destroy everything even though according to its own fluff that would destroy itself is more a sign of writers being unfamiliar with non-Imperial fluff.

>>52160711

>Also why are the dark eldar so ok with working with eldar and mon-kiegh

Firstly, when have they not been okay with working with other Eldar? Secondly, having a patron God to save your soul is pretty big motivator. Up until now Deldar have been getting anally raped by Slaanesh post-death. Now, they can buy Ynnead insurance.

>>52160756
As per your own picture: Yes, everyone but the Thokt dynasty (and maybe the Silent Kings forces)

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>>52160722
>For all his early life, Dante had been taught to mistrust the alien. It was true the least offensive xenos harboured a deep perfidy. Lenience towards xenos species bought a bounty of betrayal. But in all his long years, he had never truly hated them, not as some of his brothers did. Non-humans strove only to survive as mankind strove. Dante had gleaned enough of the galaxy’s history to know that more often than not, folly and hubris had undone the great civilisations of the past, humanity’s first stellar empire included, and not external threat.

>>Mankind had more in common with other sentient species than the adepts of Terra would admit. He supposed that was why aliens were so easy to hate. Not for him. Besides the treacheries and atrocities he had witnessed by xenos hand, he had seen nobility, honour and mercy. Twice recently, he had been forced to fight alongside the necrons against the tyranids. On neither occasion had these most arrogant of aliens betrayed the alliance. Flashes of the virtues and the graces were in all living things.

>In the tyranids, he had finally found something to hate, and powerfully. His loathing for them was the strongest emotion outside of the thirst he had felt for centuries. There could be no accommodation with the tyranids, only war. They had no redeeming features. When he had seen them as beasts, he had regarded them as a problem. When he had learned of the existence of the hive mind, he had come to view them as an existential threat. Now that mind was proving to be as vindictive as the cruellest man, he had grown to despise it.

-From "Dante" by Guy Haley

There is more but that is all I care to post now.

>>52160694
False

>>52160461
fuck yeah samurai army

>>52160811
Anything that isn't from guy Haley?

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>>52160811

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>>52160799
true but I love dark eldar for the sadistic society and evil fucked up shit they do.
>I play slaanesh as well
I don't want them to lose that aspect. I like their vampiric and awful selves. without slaanesh eating at their souls I don't want gw to pussyfi them.

>>52160797
Silly anon, don't you know? Chaos has already won and could end the galaxy within a second, and it wouldn't even hurt them in any way because Chaos spans the whole universe and every dimension and is invincible.
Now that you know how truly fucked [your dudes] are, why don't you buy a few books from Black Library© that deal with such interesting topics like "Horus did nothing wrong", "Chaos is best stepdad" and "How to please mighty Abaddon the great orally".

>>52160568
That screencap though is literally word for word what Priestley wrote at the start of 2nd Edition. The only edition it's missing from is 4th, though Codex Chaos Daemons 4th Edition has a similar statement.

>>52160692
You could do that, but the sensibilities of West vs East clash heavily. Especially when it comes to female aesthetic.

>>52160696
>>52160722
>>52160811
The original post last thread about this was about how any books that give nids personality are usually from BL authors who don't understand how the bugs work, Guy Haley clearly is in that party

>>52160842
Probably not, but it's canon unless you want to get into a "not muh canon" argument. Which I have as much interest in as an equally futile religious or political argument.

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>Don't take the bait Edition.
>everyone takes the bait

>>52160910
>Chaos is given backstory that gives them some motivations for fighting a continuous war for 10,000 years other than CAUSE WE EVIL LOL
>this is bad

>>52160956

Guy Haley's books are the only time I've been semi-interested in Nids. They actually came across as intimidating for once, though they still had less depth than a puddle.

>>52160921
Correct. Now find the other half of the problem.

>>52161012
That's fine though, as long as you aren't insistent that your particular tastes are what everyone else should follow.
From my perspective Tyranids are interesting and that's that desu

I don't get why people think it's impossible for chaos to exist after eating the galaxy. It clearly says when they consume the galaxy, only the warp will be left, but the warp doesn't play to natural laws. Any laws the existence of reality imposed on the warp would be rendered null and void when only The Realm of the Impossible is left.

I don't really get the hate for 'nids lack of diversity in their goals.

Imho the fluff is already overloaded with agendas, secret agendas and counter agendas, they added a new race (Tau) and people bitch about their fluff being unnecessary.
Tyranids are more like some back water threat that slowly grows and applies more and more pressure with no obvious means of stopping it without desperate measures.

Tyranids can bring worlds into disarray and revolt, tyranids can create unlikely alliances and bitter betrayals. Tyranids can create unlikely heroes or condemn to legend the settled ones.

They are super easy to fluff and offer good opportunities for history development. Regardless if they are the biggest threat or not. Why not have them around?

Also as a microbiologist I enjoy the pseudoscience behind them (as well as orks)

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must suck being a mon-kiegh eh anon?

>>52161060
Because the warp is essentially a giant sea of emotion and the emotions of people in realspace is what feeds it. By destroying realspace Chaos loses its food source.

>>52160696
>>52161012
Ward's smurf codex had Nids as more intimidating than "An eldar injured the hive mind and now it's angry."

>>52161101
But the warp exists outside of the Milky Way.

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>>52160924
Just replace her body with the armor Sisters have, make her more meaty, and make her do w/e SoB do. There'll be a vague romance between her and a GK. Or make the anime about the GK with a vague romance with a SoB and at the end of the series he uses her blood as a ward against daemons cuz grimdark

>>52161101
Not necessarily, people exist in the warp, and not just the semi-warp like the Eye. And I'm not just talking about Draigo either, like in the not!Draigo story in Codex Chaos Daemons when Not!Draigo passed through all the people who wandered into Slaanesh's palace and was trapped there for eternity.

It happened a lot more in Fantasy sure, but mortals in the warp is not entirely unheard of in 40k.

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Would it be better to give my sergeant an eviscerator and take another normal marine, or keep the squad like this?

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is Ynnead a second slaanesh, or corrupted by slaanesh?

>>52161172

Any sergeant that has an unwieldy weapon will get challenged out and slapped.

Should I mix weapons in Wulfen squads?

>>52161147
But it would still significantly reduce the number of people Chaos has to feed off of.
>>52161169
But it would still significantly reduce the number of people Chaos has to feed off of.

Remember that time Horus was going to take control of the Imperium with the backing of Chaos but then Chaos dicked him over because they gained far more by keeping a status quo of a galaxy constantly at war with itself than by just consuming it?

>>52161211
It's Slaanesh without all the hardcore sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll. That technically makes it good. Or at least, not bad?

>>52161105

There's considerably more to it than that. The Eldar throw everything they have at them and run out of shit to throw, so they need to dig up old shit they didn't even know they had to throw at them, and even then it's not enough until literally every single sub-faction and big name intervenes. It's pretty desperate and makes Nids look strong without making Eldar look stupid. Only Nid story I can think of where they were kinda horrifying.

>>52161213
I hadn't thought of that

>>52161211
You'd imagine it would be more emo seeing how the eldar died their way into a new god.

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>>52161236

>pg slaanesh

>>52160956
>Guy Haley clearly is in that party

Actually, Guy Haley is the Nid guy at BL. He was given the charge of writing their origins in Pharos.

>>52161219
>Remember that time Horus was going to take control of the Imperium with the backing of Chaos but then Chaos dicked him over because they gained far more by keeping a status quo of a galaxy constantly at war with itself than by just consuming it?
No, no I don't. That sounds like a Black Library thing and vaguely inconsistent with how both chaos and the heresy was described beforehand. I do recall the chaos gods being assshittingly scared of Emps though and fleeing Horus, only to take over Luther instead, and he denies them after felling the Lion.

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>>52161272
>He was given the charge of writing their origins in Pharos.

Oh yes, we know.

Has anyone ever come across warhammer books at your local library?

>>52160722

one assumes an Eldar has to sit somewhere but a "couch"?

>>52161219
>Remember that time Horus was going to take control of the Imperium with the backing of Chaos but then Chaos dicked him over because they gained far more by keeping a status quo of a galaxy constantly at war with itself than by just consuming it?
Nah, because I stopped reading Black Library years ago, so all my knowledge of the final fight comes from higher quality sources of fluff; like ones written by 40k's creator.

>>52161270
Y-You do realize they've been trying to make a new God without all the things that makes Slaanesh fucking Slaanesh for real life years, right? Like well over a decade building this up and hinting at it. How can you possibly act disappointed? Hell, all the old lore said Ynnead was going to kill Slaanesh, and that would have been something worth complaining about, yet GW deliberately and explicitly had the birth fail and Ynnead no longer has the power to kill Slaanesh, just so Slaanesh stays in the game.

>>52161011
>could slowly build up a story how Horus comes to mistrust the Emperor, and in time could be deceived by false vision from the Gods that show him a future he would never want, and so he goes on his quest to stop the Emperor from becoming a God, while inadvertedly becoming himself the reason the future Imperium is in such a bad shape, and in the end he dies as a tragic villain aboard the Vengeful Spirit, realising his own folly, but to late, as he plunged the galaxy into eternal war.
Or, you could just have him be stabbed by a Nurglite blade and have a daemon tell him that the Emperor is actually ebil. Trust me, the literal Gods of murder, death, lies and coked up murederfuckery told me so. Time to kill daddy, yay!

>>52160956
I feel like this is what pisses me off he most of heart of the swarm in starcraft 2. They went the cartoony personality direction and it ruined the experience for me. I know it's. It 40k but this reminded me of my salt and anger

>>52161330

>Iyanna sank deeper into her La-Z-boy, buffeted by psychic waves of Eldritch horror

>>52161365
your greentext makes me want to puke

>>52161361
>just so Slaanesh stays in the game.

He's already gone from AoS, why would (s)he stay in 40k?

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>>52161390

>>52161409
Sleeping in AoS, and the fluff with the newest chaos sorcerer model says that they are going out to reawaken her.

>>52161236

Other than being an Eldar God, what does Ynnead have in common with Slaanesh?

>>52161409
they're obviously not going to basically retcon a chaos god

>>52161409
Because they haven't figured out how to neatly get the Great Horned Rat into 40k.

I joke of course, if GW wanted the GHR in 40k, they would hamfistedly shove him in with three dozen or more retcons.

>>52161409
Slaanesh is inhabiting the mortal vessel that Abaddon gave her in exchange for Fulgrim's allegiance in his Black Crusade.

>>52161365
Did you read the first three books of the Horus Heresy? The Nurglitch blade doesn't immediately turn him to Chaos, he has a big pow wow with the Chaos Gods and Magnus, tells all five of them to shut the fuck up and to stop trying to manipulate him because he's Horus for fuck's sake.

The decision to rebel was made with free will, a big part of Horus' ongoing storyline in the Heresy series is him refusing to be Chaos' pawn and ADB's Abaddon novel has him continuing down the same path.

>>52161082
Nice Ultramarines cosplay, alien scum. Good that you recognize and acknowledge who the greatest of them all are.

>>52161425
Well that's just a gipped premise, iddnt?

They are eldar-created gods. Both are birthed exclusively and explicitly from the full spectrum of the powerful eldar psyche - one from wanton excess and self-indulgence, the other discipline and self-control. They are yin to yang and likewise reflections of each other - GW stated this in their design talks about the Avatar and why they made it also hermaphrodite. You can't just say "besides the thing that makes them similar, how are they similar?"

Iron Warriors sure got shafted in Traitor Legions

What are CSM going to get in answer to MegaMarines

>>52160692

Sister of Silence would fit better.

>>52161558
Nothing, just because Loyalists get our toys when we get stuff that's better than their stuff doesn't mean we get theirs.

Numarines confirmed this week, along with a new ork character model and finally a look at 8th edition at adepticon.

>>52161515

Well then all the Eldar Gods are like Slaanesh then are they? Is Khaine like Slaanesh? What about Cegorach? Asuryan? Isha? None of these Gods are similar outside of being Eldar in origin. Ynnead is closer to an opposite if anything. Slaanesh represents life in all it's excesses whereas Ynnead is the cold void of death. Probably why he's the one described as "anathema" to Chaos.

>>52161558
>What are CSM going to get in answer to MegaMarines
I for one, am still holding out hope that GW isn't completely retarded, and we're getting truescale marines with new armor.
Though, GW is completely retarded right now, and hope is the first step on the road to disappointment, so Ultraultramarines who know no fear+1 it is.

>>52161558
Chaos Corrupted Men of Iron

>>52160696
>>52160722
>>52160811
>tfw tyranids are getting personalities now

soon they will finally become a good army

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FRESH FROM MARS!

THE FIRST LEAK OF THE NEW, UPCOMING SPACE MARINE POWER ARMOR MARK THAT CAWL IS FORGING.

>>52161598
No, because the Eldar didn't make their old pantheon. Rather, it was vice versa.

>>52161604
>still holding out hope that GW isn't completely retarded, and we're getting truescale marines with new armor
>GW spends years and years constructing an entirely modular web of space marine parts that all fit together no matter the original faction, no matter the kit
>completely destroy that by making a new standard size for power armour

>>52161627

Actually, index chaotica heavily implies they were created as grand psychic war constructs during the wars against the crons.

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>>52161650
>a 2013 Black Library book doesn't match any of the older lore from the codices.
What a surprise.

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>>52161644
Oh shit you're right. I didn't think about it from a financial standpoint.

Man, I'll miss 40k.

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Holy shit, the new 40k Leman Russ is fucking awesome! awooo/10!.

>>52160459
I was actually considering dual claws for all of them. I think I may just go for that then.

My only concern is delivery. Wouldn't feel right to use a Land raider for such a small squad.

Anything interesting happening here, or am I just gonna be bored

>>52160899
I feel the same way. It does seem like they're trying to curb some of the darker themes of 40k. Imperium might have its awfulness toned down a bit with Guillimans return and who knows what'll happen to Slaanesh.

>>52161675
>not a wolf in sight
Better days...

Let's not forget that back then, the fangs marines had were surgically implanted as part of initiation when someone became a full brother marine. Not a "wolf brother," a brother marine.

So I started hunting around for interviews and found this:
https://trackofwords.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/interview-with-laurie-goulding-part-two/

>Yeah, absolutely. I mean, one of the things that’s been said lots of times is that all of the IP is created equal. All of the background of Warhammer, Warhammer 40,000, the Horus Heresy – everything is cool, and I think the only way that stuff appears not cool is if people either overthink it or if not enough detail of context is given.

Am I reading this wrong? Because isn't Goulding the one who did the 180 backtrack on the statement that all 40k canon was created equal?

>>52161674
I really just hope Squidprorow's big scheme is to just massively expand the Custodes.

>inb4 AoS style models with super mega double marines riding dinosaurs riding dragons

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>>52161731
This guy?

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>>52161731
>>52161791

>BL dudes can't keep their opinions consistent, never mind keep 40k lore consistent

>>52161753
I like most of the AoS models, they look quite neat. Especially liking the Ironjawz, Sylvaneth and Beastclaw Raiders

>>52161791

I wonder what that CM Thrasius and Heart of Sotha business was all about

>>52161842
>beastclaw raiders

those arent new you dunk

>>52161300
Mine has a pile of the Horus Heresy ones, some Ciaphas Cain, Talon of Horus and Gaunt's Ghosts. There's probably others I haven't seen, too.

Sometimes they'll need to ship em in from other libraries, though. All the ones where I live share a catalogue.

>>52161620
Spiky marheeens!

>>52160740
They gonna have 3 drunk poles shouting the lines too?

>>52161869
Well shit. To be fair, I don't know much about WHFB or AoS in general. But they still look nice.

>>52161753

As much as I don't care about AoS, that design stupidity isn't really a thing unique to AoS, and we've already seen it with the Taurox tracks, Logan mobile, Centurians, etc etc

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>>52161731
>>52161791
>>52161798
I can't wait to see how Carnac weasels his way out of this one. And let's be honest, we all know he will.

>>52161864
Maori's. They are apparently very sensitive to other (read: white) people using their myths and names for fiction. MtG had similarly treatment with one of their planeswalkers that was meant to be inclusive for them, but were forced to change her name anyways after sufficient complaints.

>>52161365
That's why I liked Descent of Angels, despite it being rather YA novel-y.

Horus, Fulgrim and whoever else just get McGuffined into ebil, where as it shows reasons for The Fallen to be bitter and jaded.

>>52161925
This also happened with Bionicle.

What the fuck is up with those islandniggers?

>>52161923
As always: Badwrongfluff doesn't count.

>>52161923
Guy who posted >>52161791 here. I actually had to dig pretty deep in the archives to find that screencap. He hasn't posted it since December. When did Larry get booted out of GW again?

>>52161300
Yeah. There's a fuck ton.

>>52161798

I don't know why people keep insisting BL is canon or that "everything is canon even if it's contradictory".

I literally just read a BL novel where it completely changed and did incorrect everything about a space marine chapter, including the FUCKING COLOR OF THE ARMOR.

Sorry, but when your BL novel is COMPLETELY WRONG compared to official codex and rulebook images, it's not canon. It's like if suddenly we had an Ultramarines novel where the Ultramarines were pink.

>>52161300
Yeah, it's really sad, they have no idea what they're are doing, playing immense lending fees for limited lifetime codexes.

>>52162016
What chapter and what book?

>>52161954

He wasn't boooted, he left for a new job in LA

>>52162070
Right, but when was he incentively ejected from the company?

>>52161644
If it's legit, I'm hoping it'll be a new unit you field in small numbers, rather than a complete replacement.
Kind of like terminators in that they fulfil a broadly similar role, but don't replace the existing.

>>52162064

Red Tithe said Carcharodons terminators are bone white like Deathwing.

>>52162124
Great Whites, makes sense.

Theyre going to discontinue boyz and make mega/nobz the basic ork troop. New warboss model about the size of the sigmar one. All resin/metal units discontinued, including deffkoptas

>>52162149
Sounds great.

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Got my stupid bat helmets today as well as my Autocanons. My excuses for not assembling things have just about run dry.

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>>52162149
>All resin/metal units discontinued, including deffkoptas

GRAVKOPTAS WHEN

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>>52162149

>>52162205

Nice fakes.

>>52162149
>your basic troop choice now has the stats of a Meganob
Would this help Orks?

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>tfw waiting for anvil industry to restock

>>52162287
A 2w marine that can't shoot for shit and always goes last.

>>52161448
Source?

>>52162318
His ass.

I wanna make a squad of Fallen to hang with Cypher!

Are they any good?

>>52162354
Yeah.

>>52159943
when will you proclaim your love to agamesi aworkshoppie

>>52162354
Chosen with Plasma cannons instead of marks.

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>>52161731
Good old Laurie "Correctly, Authentically, and Appropriately Re-told" Goulding.

>>52162149
Forgot to mention

Ghazghkull is killed by a bloodthirster while holding armageddon alongside Yarrick against a daemon horde

>>52162397
Yeah. His stance on the canon has just been correctly, authentically and appropriately retold from the forum post.

>>52162438
>Ghazghkull all over the galaxy in GS3
>gets killed on Armageddon for some reason
Sure.

>>52162318
>>52162327
The Black Legion supplement. Abaddon gave Fulgrim a Grey Knight who h is going to use to create an avatar of Slaanesh.

>>52162205
nananananana

my friend who plays night lords won't use the bat helmets and it makes me very sad.

>>52161593
Sauce?

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>>52162144

Except for the fact that they're fucking grey, both the great white shark and the fucking official canon. I guess dumbass faggots like you think BL is canon and BL authors know more than the people who CREATED THE FUCKING CHAPTER

>>52161947
They're tough, bitter motherfuckers that are still (reasonably) angry about getting buttblasted by colonists.

If I were them, I wouldn't want some SJW nerd card printers making money off of my history.

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>>52162274

They are nice, actually. I was surprised. The best part is they're not china.

>>52162563

I'm using them for my Sgts/Champs, but you need to tell your friend to embrace the silliness of the bat helmets.

>>52162590
>fact
Says who?

They aren't real, they're whatever fucking colour the authors say the are at the moment.

BL authors may not know more but they sure as shit have more clout than miffed fanboys.

As for the great whites, Terra's ocean's've been baren for millenia, no living Cacarodons has even seen a live shark, so great whites are of course white.

Go ahead say it, you know you want so, say badwrongfluff.

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>>52162354
>>52162390
For real though, Fallen went up (since the Cypher sup) 2pts, gained a Ld (I guess auto-taking VotLW, despite that not being an option), lost the option for mutations/icons... and that's it? They're just slightly worse Chosen?

Also, plasma cannons aren't an option for new or old Fallen. Only combi and plasma guns.

>>52162590
new fluff > old fluff
Carcharadon terminators are now bone white.

>>52162612
They kind of sound like petty faggots desu. I never hear the Greeks complain whenever Zeus is used.

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>>52160461
sell all and buy more of these.

>>52162719
Hell do a fluff piece on it, say that terminators scrimshaw the paint to reveal white under-material on their armour for each kill.

The great ones have some many marks they look white with grey specs and do they work in layers, really ancients suit histories can only be read by touch as the gouges become layered.

>>52162756
>greeks complaining that westernized Zeus isn't raping a bunch of women and treating them like objects for his amusement
lel. "Don't stick your modernized ideals on our rich and proud heritage! Zeus is a dick god, who does dick things, and you can't take that from us!"

Why did Roboute bully Cypher?

>>52162807
>to reveal white under-material on their armour
But anon, you're only digging the hole deeper because the under material is ceramite, which is explicitly described as grey.

>>52162808

>westernized Zeus

>>52162822
Same reason we bully emo edgelords, it's fun.

How do I run melee Inquisitor bands? Death cult assassin's, crusaders, Arco flagellants and a priest stuffed in a land raider?

>>52162841
Except when it's dull metallic as the IW/Fists Exemplar, silver as the GK, bone-white as with DG or white as when convenient.

>>52162702
>they gave them PCs in art but not in rules

GW strikes again

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>>52162841
>yeah, my oc donutsteel chapter doesn't use colours and goes with bare ceramite armour
Imagine this happening in your LGS

>>52160438
since ward made our codex

>>52159901
>OP's pic

In the next edition, Warhammer 40,000: Age of Heroes™.

>>52162702
>>52162354
They can get two pistols and pretend to be Cypher.

If that's what you like.

>>52162954
err, haha, disregard that, I suck cocks. (and also at reading)

day off, no numarines reveal from gw
no more leaked pics
I bet the guy who made model for false leaked pic is reading this thread and having one hell of a good laugh

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>>52162900
DESU, I always thought making ceramite's natural color the same as unpainted plastic was a deliberate design choice.

>>52162954
>>52162977
The Champion can, at least.

>>52159936
There's also a sister of silence in the image

>>52162590

I don't get why the BL author would just change it for the sake of it. If he gathered up all the info about the space sharks he would have known the correct colour. Its a big fuck you to anyone who was collecting an army. Imagine one day some BL author who has only written 1 book decides to make Deathwing all red

>>52162996
Huh, makes sense. But would still make for an incredibly lame excuse to field a grey tide.

>>52163032

>tfw 'No sisters of silence in 40k'fags are irrevocably btfo

>>52163062

those guys sure didn't show their faces again kek

>>52163004
Just like Chosen already could.

They really are worse Chosen + VotLW, except when Knowing No Fear next to their boss.

>>52162590
>>52162144

Anons great white sharks are also actually grey

>>52163034
>If he gathered up all the info
No GW author ever gather any info at all.

They don't even have a design document.

>>52163062
They were blown out when the end of the Wrath of Magnus revealed that the Sisters were all in the High Lord's rape dungeon for the past 8000 years.

>>52163090
>No GW author ever gather any info at all.

thats bullshit nonsense gav thorpe has talked about gathering books whenever he writes some 40k/aos thing

and he doesn't need a design doc, just open up the fucking imperial armour book

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>>52163086
>completely redesign Fallen to no longer be Chosen, removing their ability to take mutation/icons and now promoting them with veteran Dark Angel model kits instead
>don't take the chance to squeeze in some 30k Dark Angel tactics rule (or whatever they have), instead just reprint Chosen rules
Whatever, fags.

>>52163086
Wait, each fallen essentially has VotLW built in AND has to pay for it in points cost?
Even though Legions get it for free? What the fuck is even the point of fallen then if they're a shitty copy paste of an already overcosted unit?

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>>52162149

>>52163194
>>52163182
>>52163086
Waa waa, you guys have the option to take one unit that uses Chaos rules and have been crying about it ever since. Try taking a full list using chaos rules.

Now that brexit is really happening, when will UK's currency tank so forgeworld will be dirt cheap

>>52163238
Too late, the big dips were in the fall and early spring, now the bullshit is re inflating it.

>>52160372
immediatly tear open box and paint Guilliman so you could use him to pwn Aeldari

>>52163234
No, anon. We have the option to take one unit with Chaos rules minus the only semi-redeeming part of chaos rules, the marks and mutations.

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>>52163238

Speaking of Brexit, has that leaked into any of the new 40k fluff at all?

>>52163234
I play Alpha Legion jackass.

I was hoping for a new unit, not an inferior copy paste of a unit I already use as my troops.

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>>52163265

>http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39262081

no survivors

>>52163278

cadia = usa
trump = rowboat
necrons = russia

>>52163238
>>52163265
I'm still waiting for some massive droo before buying the 300 Pound Custodes box, one or two Dreadnoughts and maybe a grav tank. Gotta use that once-in-a-lifetime chance.

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>mfw I'm an Ork player and haven't gotten around to reading The Gathering Storm nonsense/related GW-fuckery because I'm currently reading about the 32k Orks and their Attack Moons in The Beast Arises novels
If I hear dem GW gits ruin my Boyz' lore I'mma be real pissed off.

>>52163493
Don't worry, you don't appear at all.
Aside of course from an imminent shit-kicking at the hands of Angron on Armageddon.

>>52163273
>mutations
>ever
>marks
>on those overpriced pieces of shit
>>52163334
Then you should have known better than to expect anything good available.

>>52163493
Nah, only minor appearances so far.

Ghazkhull is teleporting around smashing shit all over the place and Badrukk is leading a Waaagh!! after a space whale heading to Catachan.

Is there ever a reason to use burst cannons on your Commander? I'm not lacking in both S5/AP5 nor burst cannons themselves and I want to use my BC bits to built some Airbursting Fag Projectors.

>>52163526
If you like the look

>>52163526

For fun or because you like burst cannons.

>>52161211
>is Ynnead a second slaanesh, or corrupted by slaanesh?

That yet remains to be seen.

At any rate, it's a fragment of an Eldar god (nowhere near the strength of Slaanesh, who is the weakest Chaos God) and will therefore share many, many similarities with Slaanesh, which is also a Chaos God that is very heavily influenced by the Eldar above any other race.

>>52163526
isn't there a wargear option that lets you precision shoot on 5s?

>>52161409
Slaanesh is very, very likely to come back to AoS, as there is a named Sorcerer of Slaanesh who is actively seeking to find and release it and bring it back to the forefront.

Believe it or not, I think they realized that killing off a major player of a setting that had existed since its inception was kind of a bad idea, and one they will almost certainly not be repeating in 40K (if only because it's completely invalidate three separate model lines in that universe - 40K Emperors Children, 30K Emperors Children, and Daemons)

>>52163510
>Not using mark of Khorne with Chosen armed with power swords/axes to get 5 attacks per chosen on the charge.

>>52163549
>>52163533
I love the look and I have a gatling fetish but I have a remora and 8 stealthsuits with them. I just can never see myself using them with CiBs being an option.

I'm just trying to scratchbuild 2 CiBs and 2 AfPs and I can't come up with gun housings for them, but I have 2 burst cannons spare I can use.

>>52159901
how do you pronounce roboute guilliman ?

is it ro bo~u~te gui-lee-man ?

>>52163597
>I love the look but
loving the look should be enough

optimization be damned

>>52163567
That's the Advanced Targeting System, but PS is only on 6s even for characters in 7th.

But I field it on all my 8 stealthsuits and I field a vindicare and sometimes sniper drones so I'm not lacking those either.

>>52163620
row-boot-ay gwilliman

>>52163620
Rumproast Gorkamorka

>>52163620
Just go with Robot Girlyman. It's close enough to count.

>>52163513
Ah, so Ghazzy got bored of smashing the bugs over in the Octarius Sector is basically going Galaxy-wide WAAAAAGH! now?

Honestly, with the "everything's going to hell" vibe I've gotten on what I've heard so far, I would not be surprised if the Ghazzy finds some of the Beast's old Attack Moons floating around in the void. That or his favorite Mekboy Orkimedes is going to figure out how to build some OP-as-fuck gravity-based dakka.

Probably both, knowing GW.

>>52163620

Robert Guileman

>>52163620
It depends on who's saying it. "Officially" there's like a million ways because everyone at GW says it slightly differently.

roh-bute gui-lih-man is how I hear it most often pronounced as, however

>>52163591
>paying 165 points for 5 models with 3+ and no inv save
Dear god why?

>>52163623
Very true, this is why I run so many stealthsuits, I got 12 of the mofos all tooled up. I fucking love those guys. But I prefer having missile racks or grenade launchers on my commander, he just looks badass as a mobile trigger-happy artillery piece.

>Sweet Ethereals, what the fuck happened to the forest, Shas'ui?
>The Commander happened, that's what.

>>52163653
>Ah, so Ghazzy got bored of smashing the bugs over in the Octarius Sector is basically going Galaxy-wide WAAAAAGH! now?

Yeah, there's a bit where they describe Ghazkull attacking all kinds of planets just weeks apart in different segmentums.

I think Orikimedes managed to make something really good.

>>52163683
Because they look badass.

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so is rowboat worth getting?

>>52163680
>>52163680

yeah. similar to how i enunciate it.

anyways, where does this leave the series? seems like after YEARS, progress on the story just happens right after the 13th black crusade?

also, is there a PDF of all the stories leading to roboute's revival ?

>>52163706
>Orikimedes
Literally my favorite piece of lore in all of 40K. The triumvirate of the WAAAGH should be him, Nazdreg and beast Ghazzy.

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>>52163716
Na, he's a fuckin' jobber.

>>52163712
I see we have a total of 1 true 40k player.

>>52163716
If you have a lib conclave he's worth taking. Also I like the model (with helmet)

>>52163712
What are you fucking gay?

>>52163706
>Orkimedes
Was he the one that discover that red goes faster when he saw saim Han Eldar on jetbikes?

I miss third and 4th edition fluff, back when fluff was decent and/or funny.

Let's be honest the fluff was decent, usually mediocre or bad.

Today we are lucky if we get a mediocre lore out of the pile of shit lore we have now.

>>52163716

you are a ultarmarine collector and you have to ask if your own primarch is worth getting??????????????????????

>>52163733
we finally have some hope for the imperium

>>52163639
how often are you sniping off characters and special weapons? i know it's heresy to say but i do like how the tau are spoiled for options and changeability

>>52163817
He invented the tellyportas or at least got them down to a manageable 70% failure rate, and he engineered the acid proof subs used on armageddon as as well as a shitload of other innovations.

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>>52162893
>>52162841

>>52163821
He is a waacfag, asking if something is worth it beside the reason "I like the model/fluff"

>>52163875

>even the paint pots are retconning 40k lore

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>>52163706
Well, Orkimedes is the Mek responsible for those high-end teleportas during the 3rd Armageddon War, so a galaxy-wide version wouldn't be too surprising.

Honestly, I just want to see Ghazzy pull Majora's Mask like the Beast did and park a Triton-size Ork Attack Moon over Terra or some major Imperial World, just to give the Imperium a zoggin' heart attack.

>>52163716
If you like smurfs or sm's...yeah. It's a swag model with lots of detail. He is kinda a army buffer with the ability to stand back up like a necron. Otherwise he's a nice looking ha proxy.

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I am not a rumormonger and my dad does not work for GW, but I think 8th Edition is going to be called

Warhammer 41,000

>>52162841
Achualluy terminator armor is a plasteel and ceramite mix.

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>>52161434
>they're obviously not going to basically retcon a chaos god
Yeah, they would totally not do that.

>>52163924
Akshually, termy armor is adamantium and plasteel overlaying ceramite layers.

>>52163805
Chaos Termies all with capes and lightning claws, mark of khorne in a land raider.

BADASS

>>52163762
I will always stand by my love for the hobby and my dudes being cool as fuck.

>>52163834
Pretty much once a turn with the Vindicare. I use him as a force multiplier of sorts. I use Hellfire rounds and target special/heavy weapons mostly because they literally cannot escape. No armour, cover or invuln, 2+/4+ to hit, 2+ to wound and cannot take LoS! Anything multiwound is a problem for him so the highest I go after are sergeants due to a single wound. Any dangerous gun I don't want levelled at my other dudes, I take out. He's expensive but he's worth his weight in gold in support.

The other dudes like sniper drones and stealthsuits.. not that many times. Apart from being on 6s, I mostly gave them the ATS because it's dirt cheap and makes the most sense for such a large amount of shots. I always assign them to special guns and leaders.

>>52163946
You play tau? Your claims to care about the hobby died before they began.

>>52163935
Adamantium is the exoskeleton, plating is sandwiched plasteel/ceramite.

>>52163930
I thought malal was like the archie echidnas, aka oc trash that was "canon" before their creator excommunicated their self and then threw a hissy fit about "muh ip"

>>52163930
Is not like GW rectons entire armies!

Oh wait they done it before, multiple times. They even axe games.

If I knew what I know today about GW back when I started. I would have not started at all.

They have Zero respecto for their consumers

>>52163946

Different anon, but I can't mark my Termies because NL. Hell, termies don't even really benefit from my Legion rules, but I run them anyway because the Atramentar are cool as shit.

>>52163735
>Ghazzy, Nazdreg and Orkimedes as the WAAAGH! triumvirate

Gork n' Mork approve of this!

Also, how big is Ghazzy now? Orks get bigger as they fight, and he's been WAAAGH!in' all over the zoggin' place lately. How long we got before he reaches 'The Beast'-size?

The Beast kept getting called 'big as a hab-block' in the novels. Wot da zog is a hab-block anyway? A house? 10-story apartment building?

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>toughest personal armor in the galaxy
>ignores lascannons on 9+
>1/36 chance for small arms fail against small arm fire
>devastating weapons like the storm bolter
These days will never return. ;_;

>>52163961
I play Tau, Necrons, Thousand Sons and combined Iron Warriors/World Eaters. I always focus on casual theme play and I put a shitload of thought and effort into my minis, drill barrels, file off mouldlines and paint and base my shit.

Playing a faction does not make you a stupid cunt. Being a stupid cunt makes you a stupid cunt.

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>>52163620
Robert Gulliman.

>>52164018
He was twice the height of Vulcan who was twice the height of a marine.

>>52164024
Keep telling yourself that. ;)

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>>52164009
Fuck yes. Man, so long as you love your dudes and run them in a way that makes sense for your dudes, it's great.

>>52164053
But anon, there were six the Beasts.

>>52164081
And if one was substantially larger he'd beat the others down and be the only one.

>>52164022
Bringing back that save would possibly fix termies honestly.

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>>52164022
>storm shields offered an ADDITIONAL saving throw of 4+ that ignores modifiers
SS+TH termies must have been fucking invincible.

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>>52164112
And here is the banner.

>>52164103
Suddenly I want to see prequel to The Beast Arises written from The Beast's perspective, and there's all kinds of "THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!!" Highlander craziness involved.

Otherwise known as your average Tuesday for an Ork Warboss.

>>52164112
>>52164132

pro-painted/10.

>>52164123
From the front.

>>52164123
Don't forget that Thunder hammers basically just murdered everything they touched.

>>52163620
Robotboy Garbageman

>>52161617
how much of a memeing faggot do you have to be to think any of that equals up to tyranids becoming a good army? The only "emotion" they've shown is rage, which doesn't go against anything established. The hive mind was never mindless, it just operates on a massive, incomprehensible scale and holds all the other races in contempt.

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>>52164168
Well let's see.

-5 saving throw, so anything short of termy or exo armor is immediately shot.

And what's this? "No strength value because..." Wait what? What. Holy shit.

>>52164112
The thickness of the paint is something to stand aghast at, but the model has this primitive, careless, inexplicable, and enduring charm to it.

>>52160354
Necrons haven't been BBEG since the Newcron retcons of 5e. Hell, they haven't even been relevant as a faction since then. Now they're just irrelevant xenos empire of the margins #3, with some token lore "important shit that happened way before the game takes place" and a token meme character popping in for humorous cameos.

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>>52164220
>more bullshit about how a tide of emotionless husks without any personality is interesting

>>52164234
>Damage, D6
Holy shit. I didn't even notice that. Fucking murder hammers.

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Update for you guys:

Over the weekend I emailed GW about getting Honored Imperium as a means to create a memorial urn for my father's ashes.

After a few emails, this was the response I got.

>>52164256
Lightning Claws were S8 Damage D3 and could parry.

You didn't fuck with terminators in those days.

>>52164262
That is either the greatest con of our time or you are more autistic than the Lion.

>>52164262
Everyone knows that the customer service people are the only people at GW actually interested in doing their jobs.

>>52164234
wait a second, that chaos khorne terminator has a thunderhammer and storm shield!

>>52160372
>New Cypher model isn't available on its own.

I'm not paying over 100usd just for one guy. Geedubs, fix this.

>>52164325
Believe it or not, Chaos marines actually used to have Wargear options

>>52164234
Do you have the old Calgar rules?

>>52164262
It's 3:15am and I'm in bed with a cuppa and you just gave me unexpected feels.

You're a good lad, my condolences.

>>52164335
>talk to the local players and split a box two to three ways
>alternatively: wait a week or two then buy him on ebay for 20-30$

>>52164348
I've got everything. What book specifically? Ultramarines 2E?

>>52164252
Reposting from last thread because it didn't get through your thick skull then either.
They aren't a fucking villain. They aren't even CONTENDING to be a villain.
You don't call a tornado villainous because it razes cities, it's just doing what it naturally does and humans just happened to be in the way.
The appeal isn't "oh they're gonna destroy the setting huehue" but that they're a force of nature that can't be culled or reasoned with, you either destroy them or they destroy you.
If you aren't interested by that then that's on you, not everyone else.