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>>52156980
thank you familia
now we can exchange about our favorite chinamen and retards who pays 500$ for a playset of tarmogoyfs

when's preordain

Do I want 1 or 2 Gideon Jura in esper draw-go

>>52157173
Usually Giddy as a one of, same with that 6 mana Elspeth.

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>>52157173
Zero (0)

>>52157190
But I also want to meme an Ashiok and keep 6cmc Elspeth in the board

>>52157199
Go home

>>52157302
go play edh kiddo

>tfw installed Wagic
I can finally test out decks at Uni

>>52157380
Wtf is that shit. Better not be against bots

>>52157368
nty

sup /tg/, I have a question for you.

I'm debating getting into magic as it is the game that most of my LGS plays, but I'm having some metal hudrles that make me not want to play.

The game I normally play the most is X-wing (switched to it after GW made WHFB unplayable) and in that game, it's reasonable to own a complete collection, with which you can make any squadron possible. I had the same thing for my Orc army.

With magic, that's not even remotely feasible. Some cards run at upwards of $50, and despite claims that I hear, I don't think trading cards will retain their value over time, as the market could potentially crash without any warning. I tend to view my entertainment as something that I don't intend to sell in the future/monitor as an investment.

Basically, I want to get into the game, but I would like to do so with a one-time purchase, yet maintain flexibility with what I play. As an example, my Orc army is a display piece at worst, and if FFG HQ explodes tomorrow, I can still play X-wing with my Wife/kids/friends/random people, as I have a nearly complete collection.

Magic doesn't really have that though. The game seems to derive it's replay-ability from playing against different people and decks, and has very little in-game skill, focusing almost entirely on deck construction and luck. And unlike other card games like Netrunner, I can't buy one of everything from the get-go to make it a self contained game, or even one that requires no market watching/constant purchasing to change the deck I play.

I knew from WHFB that I could get anything counterfeit from china, so I figured I could buy a set of the most commonly used expensive cards from a reprinter and play with those (I intend to go to local tournaments), but the last thread seemed to indicate otherwise. it seems like this game is full of constant card-checks to make sure your cards are not proxies, etc.

Should I play MTG, or is it not the game for me?

>>52157774
If you just want to play casually, then fake cards are fine. If you want to play competitive then buy the real cards, as everyone can tell if a card is fake and only poor faggots buy fake cards for real play. Also I can assure you that the majority of mtg cards you purchase will maintain a good value

>>52157774
As someone who's been playing a while, if you intend to stay with the game, your deck will likely grow in price.

>>52157880
Yeah absolutely. I got into the game years ago and my collection is always going up. Shit I had like 30 muddle the mixtures just laying around before that spike. And mtg isn't going anywhere for a long time, as much as people like to complain about them being kikes, they're very good at making money

>>52157866
Unfortunately, I am looking to participate in tournaments though. I also don't highly value the financial advice of an anonymous person on a Mongolian basket-weaving smoke-signal network.

I'm a data analyst at a financial exchange, and MTG's market is effectively a miniature stock exchange with no FTC or government regulation. That seems like a recipe for disaster. I'm looking to make a purchase for entertainment, not an investment.

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http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/gw_company_with_todd_stevens.html

This deck looks like fun, but no idea if it's better than traditional hatebears.

>>52157955
Well if you have a good job then dropping a few thousand on a hobby you enjoy is fine. I'd recommend playing around a bit before you buy a deck though, play a lot of casual, find the play style you like, and then proxy a deck, try it some more, and then find what you like.

>>52157169
How can you spot the differences between fake and real cards?

>>52157980
You're trading higher disruption with Hatebears for better beats and Collected Company

>>52158038
unless you brought a loupe, for some, you can't.

>>52158001
dropping a few thousand on paper is a bit bizarre though. If it would cost this much to get into MTG, I'll just dump that into a college fund. No game is that fun.

Also, my point was the issue with proxy cards, is this game entirely focused with making sure everyone has paid the WOTC/Secondary market entry fee as the last thread seemed to indicate?

Another issue is that I don;t want to buy a deck, I'd like to buy some sort of large collection to be able to make decks on a whim/tune them without making more purchases.

>>52157980
It's not a whacky hatebears variant though, it's a a CoCo value deck. Completely different archetype. It's more comparable to Bant or Abzan CoCo than anything else.

>>52158095
Nah not true at all, unless you're talking about stuff printed before modern like alliances and old shit like that. But as far as fakes go, if I have another card to compare it to I can distinguish 99%, they're never quite perfect. Some are really good, and you do need a loupe, but that's almost never the case, I think only once I needed to

>>52158108
No if you don't want to pay you can play casual, that's the game. And if you're unwilling to drop a few thousand on stuff you enjoy, or if you think a few thousand is going to cover the cost of your kids college, then your kids are either retards going to a community college for English Education or you're stupider than your kids.

>>52158108
You might try looking into EDH, it's 100 card singleton format where you build your deck based around a legendary creature.

Depending on your playgroup it can be anything from casual to cutthroat combo competitive.

It's the type of format where you can just dump $50-$100 on a deck then just steadily upgrade it as you update your collection over time. They even have pre-built commander decks that are a good starting point.

A lot of people will act like EDH is a dirty word, but frankly it sounds like what you're looking for.

>>52158142
>>52158095
Is it worth getting china cards for somene that only plays with friends and dont plan to try to sell them?

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>>52158188
Not to mention most EDH groups don't have a problem with proxies, so long as you're not trying to pass them off as the real thing.

>>52158168
it's a card game that i was potentially interested in getting into as there are a lot of local events for it, but the thousands of dollars pricetag is offputting.

Judging by this thread, MTG is too mixed with it's unregulated stock market to be cost effective.

Also, way to misinterpret the college fund comment, i'm just saying i could probably have similar amounts of fun for less money if I had to pay that much money to get into the game.

>>52158142
Because printing inconsitencies never was a part of all the sets

>>52158108
Yeah, this doesn't seem like the game for you. If you want a "playable collection" you need to drop several thousand dollars and it encompasses most decks in the format. If you don't want to spend that, individual decks are around the 500- 800 dollar mark apiece. Most people buy two or three decks and just play those. Also, there's continual, but small, purchase upkeeping the decks as new cards are printed and released.

You really shouldn't play though. It doesn't sound like your game.

Just saw a guy on twitch double 5-0 with gw taxes. It was pretty sweet.

>>52158248
Maybe you should get a well paying job instead of looking for hobbies and shit posting on 4chan if you can't spend 1000 dollars on something you'd enjoy?

>>52158248
>Wanting his/her hobby to be cost-effective
Go back to whatever you were playing

>>52158226
Nah that's fine

>>52156980
Why is there no strategey in MTG besides deck construction?
Once you have decided your deck, There aren't any real decisions to be made, provided you aren't a retard.
It's all random chance and deck matchups/responses. There's no actual skill once you have your deck made.

>>52158291
So he drew leonin arbiter by turn 2 every time, good for him

>>52157866
>If you want to play competitive then buy the real cards, as everyone can tell if a card is fake

That was true 2 years ago, not now.

>>52158322
Clearly havent played the game before.

>>52158322
t. Burn player

>>52158339
Not how it went but there was a game where he gq an opponent 6 times because of the new gw card. It was fucking glorious. Love it when fair decks win.

>>52157955

Here's the thing anon: in order to justify the cost of the cards, you need to view it as an investment that relies on the health of the game.

Play online or buy fakes. If you want to see your cards as entertainment devices and not physical asset, competitive magic is not for you.

I would not take proxies to a tournament. Consider the main reason the cards are expensive is for tournament play, where you can win product. Winning product value relies on cards being worth something unless you're strictly playing for the competition and want to forfeit your prizes.

Maybe at FNM level it's fine, maybe. But don't try and sneak proxies into a GP. When your cards are making you money, it's an investment and should be treated like one.

Recommend me a budget modern deck that actually might win me some games.

>>52158295
>>52158313
I'm hesitant to spend over a grand on a card game that I *might* enjoy.

Thanks for convincing me that this community is all dickheads that sit in an ivory tower, valuing making sure everyone has paid their fees over game-play.

>>52158477
Which new GW card? I play GW hatebears and I'm not sure what you're referring to

>>52158518
I think he means Renegade Rallier

>>52158500
I'm a budget player and the price of some cards is pretty annoying (looking at you, FETCHES)
But you shouldn't expect to get your money back when buying into a hobby
A hobby is supposed to give you good times, not good investments, unless your hobby is speculation (and even if it was, you're not always earning money from speculating)

>>52158483
Well, this definitely confirms it. Thanks for being less dickinsh.

Also, your statement is pretty much exact- I view things I use for entertainment as purely entertainment devices, and not assets.

>>52158500

>talks to two anonymous gentlemen on a Korean BBQ enthusiast carrier pigeon website
>entire community is dicks

Well I'll be.

>>52158518
Renegade raillier? Revolt bring back a 2 cmc or less card to the battlefield. He was also teching shining shoal but I'm not sure if that card is real but he said it was good.

>>52158500
There's a lot of cool people in the community, but just as many cunts who jerk off over their cardboard. Most of them don't even sell often enough to justify their "investment" - they usually just trade cards after a spike to obtain more cards to sit on, while not realizing the gains of "investing" in magic are fucking miniscule.

The game itself is pretty fun, but high level play is filled with cheaters and drug addicts who get a pass because they're idols to be worshipped and most competitive players are hyper focused on their pulp fantasy game, to the expense of developing any interests or hobbies outside of Magic. Find some cool people to play with and they'll probably let you play with proxies, and go from there.

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>>52158570

>>52158560
I wasn't looking for getting my money back, ore assuming that any money I put into the game is gone forever. as
>>52158483
said, I don't view the cards as assets, as they are just cards.

>>52158595
>I don't view the cards as assets, as they are just cards.
I didn't understand that when you said
>Judging by this thread, MTG is too mixed with it's unregulated stock market to be cost effective.

>>52158500
Spend 30 on a duel deck so that tou can learn to play with someone else.

>>52158564

At the same time anon, there are other arguments as well;

Consider that the ACTUAL cost of entry to a tournament is a tournament fee. That covers the actual cost of the product alone; having a deck is not enough to get you into a tournament.

There are random deck checks but the odds of getting checked are low and you can plead ignorance.

If you just want to build a deck and play some magic, it's not going to hurt anyone. It might jeopardize the value of the cards on a large scale but the "brokers" are the ones who hurt for that, not the players.

If you become a recognized player you might have to spring for real cards, but I've changed my mind and I say proxy up expensive stuff and just go for it.

>>52158570
>>52158535
Holy shit I don't know how I haven't caught on, and my list is pretty malleable, unconventional and experimental.

Any GW hatebears players have some spicy tech? Mine is Kami of False Hope for Deaths Shadow, which plays nicely with Renegade Rallier

>>52158498
8whack or mono green stompy

>>52158635
Order of whiteclay and smuggler's copter. That's some gross shit.

>>52158624
I know how to play, it's not like it's a difficult game to understand.
>>52158631
I get tournament fees, other games I played had those, that's effectively a "Using Space" fee.

>>52157980
>crucible, azusa, ghost quarter
That's a spicy meme. Azusa seems kind of weak in that deck, but I would love to ghost quarter someone three times pr turn.

>>52158631
this

>>52158661
Thanks. Will look into stompy. Can i upgrade those in any way if i want to drop some more $$$?

>Playing
Naya burn
>Hating
Nothing really. Prison decks I guess
>Brewing
Nada.
>Banlist
I'm a little disappointed desu. I've had a playset of bbe for almost a year now that I was hoping to sell to finish off my deck. Was also hoping for probe to be unbanned since I liked that kiln fiend deck

I'm somewhat new to Modern after being a longtime EDHfag. Why is Blazing Shoal banned?

>>52158815
Not really. You could make naya zoo but even that deck isn't too good.

>>52158827
Infect

>>52158733

Yeah, tournament fees are fine. And in other games, that's enough. Magic also has the absurd card barrier of entry. It's like saying you need a $600 shoe grease before youre allowed to competitively play soccer. It's absurd.

I say play the game and see if you have fun before you worry about mtg finances.

Spellweaver Worldfire is best fringe deck

>>52158820
>Was also hoping for probe to be unbanned
Well that's just stupid

>>52158935
Fuck off it is. Deck is awful, easy to disrupt and nobody plays it

>>52159050
Post a better fringe deck

>>52159068
Why? So you can say it isn't fringe or your meme shit is better?
At least bring something to the table instead of lol spellweaver best

>>52158827
Sure is

>>52159104
>So you can say it isn't fringe or your meme shit is better?
No I'm just shopping around for weird decks

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>>52159068
>Post a better fringe deck
I gotchu senpai

>>52158827
turn 2 infect kills

>>52159068
Ad nauseum
Mono-colored green or blue devotion

>>52159173
>Even calls it the shittier name
Are you even trying?

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>>52159190
I made that list a while back, before copycat became the most widely used name for that pile.

>>52158827
Infect pitch progenitus for t2 kills. Look up shoal infect that deck is nuts

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>>52159104

did someone get worldfired :^)

>>52159319
Ebin. Keep up the quality posting

>>52159173
Hey buddy, you got the wrong thread. The standard thread is two blocks down

>>52159338

just seems like salt to me and I didn't even bring it up

>>52159363
Not even him but I can assure nobody is salty at your garbo brew

>>52159010
You're stupid

>>52156980
>Playing?
League of Legends
>Hating?
Myself
>Brewing?
A cup of fine Earl Grey

>>52159567
Hurrr I hope they unban this card they just banned a month ago

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>>52156980
Could some one please identify this card? It it's in my collection but I've only played since 2012.

>>52159010
But unbanning Probe would bring the Death's Shadow deck down in power.

>>52159609
What? What the fuck am I reading?

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>>52159602
Wrong thread for this type of thing, but here you go.

Use any website with a card search function.

>>52159649
Well the deck got stronger after the Probe ban, right?

>>52159687
Lmao

>>52159602
You could've found that on Gatherer so easily. Just find out what that set symbol is and look up the card's number in the set. Or the mana cost or something.

Building a new deck in paper here's what I'm considering:

BTLwshift, DSJ, Affinity, Grixis delver, Titanshift, Bant Spirits, Tron :^), Grishoalbrand and Esper draw-go.

I know I'm gonna get told to build DSJ but I'm having a hard time deciding desu. How do you guys decide when you're considering this many?

>>52160007
Which one is the best and can tuned into something else.
In that case, DSJ. If that's within your price range, then why not?

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>>52158062
I dont know about the beats. It seems to go all in on disrupting mana bases.

>>52158108
I always felt Hatebears could become larger with replacing Vials for Company and maybe replacing Thalia's as the taxing ability isn't that important anymore since combo seems dead.

Going Maverick-esque is also an option I guess. I do agree with the guy that Dromoka's Command is underplayed.

>>52158741
Maybe Azusa could be another Rallier or Witness. But I dont know. I'm more upset with having to get Goyfs for financial reasons.

>>52160007
Make Ponza with me. We can suffer together.

>>52160007
BUILD TRON

JOIN US

>>52160360
Fuck you Ponza shits all over Tron and the rest of the game half the time.

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>>52160377
>Ponza shits all over Tron
Let me guess, Blood Moon is good vs Tron too?

>>52160377
Ponza is for scrubs. They think land destruction will be so epic but the thing is you don't need many lands in modern

>>52160360
If I built tron I'd have to sleeve it in anime girls sleeves with mismatched tron lands just to trigger people. The nice thing is I could probably get another deck to go with it though.

>>52160451
Ponza is basically Tron that tries to fuck over the opponent's land at the same time. On the play you can T1 Arbor Elf, T2 Utopia Sprawl into Mwonvuli Acid Moss. You just blew up their only land and next turn you'll have 7 mana to start slamming your fatties onto the table. It lacks Ancient Stirrings and Stars, but denying your opponent their mana can be just as good. I mean, the deck has top 8'd and I believe even won GPs, it's just one of those out there decks like Lantern Control that no one wants to build because it's not a tried and tested tier 1 deck.

>>52160135
>I dont know about the beats. It seems to go all in on disrupting mana bases.

Tarmogoyf and Knight of the Reliquary are bigger than anything in traditional hatebears and the deck lacks Thalia and Leonen Arbiter

Personally I'd still keep a few Thalia's in the board with the way Storm is becoming popular. I've also just won games against Ad Naus by playing her turn 2

>>52160530
Except you can fuck with ponza much easier than tron.

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>>52160929
It's true that Bolting the Bird (Arbor Elf) is a large annoyance, but it still asks the question of can you do it, and even then there's still the option of T1 Utopia Sprawl for a turn 2 Stone Rain. Either way I'm going to enjoy cucking people at my LGS with Bonfires :^)

>>52160530
>Ponza is basically Tron
Wew lad
>then proceeds to explain arbor/sprawl like it's some sort of hidden tech

Grishoalbrand is fuckin tight

>>52161028
Be thankful wotc gave you another month to play with the deck.

Can't wait for the April
>ssg banned
>mox opal banned
>Death's shadow banned
>ensnaring bridge banned
>ancient stirrings banned
>sfm unban
>jtms unban
>twin unban

>>52161155
Oh boy, can't wait to see this for another month, then again, then again

>>52161155
Why would Bridge get banned?

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>Vial into Sculler into Wasteland Strangler
Great meme you fucking faggot. Love how that retarded deck either hits it's fucking gay ass meme combos or is just a shit deck. Eldrazi taxes is fucking autistic. BTW I won that match cause that deck is trash and he couldn't do anything besides drop shitty creatures the rest of the time.

>>52161155
Fucking ban list just (not)updated. Jesus this ride never ends

>>52160990
I don't think it's hidden tech. I do, however, think that 4 mainboard Blood Moon is a great way to steal games.

>>52161155

I can't wait for none of these things to happen. It's pretty amazing how delusional some people are.

>>52161250
The only autism here is coming from your angry ass

>>52161250
Synergies are meme combos?

Wew lad, you just keep playing good stuff decks then while we have fun

>>52161244
Because it's a degenerate card that promotes uninteractive games of magic and goes against magics core?

>>52161384
I can't wait for your deck to get one of those cards banned. It's pretty amazing how delusional some people are.

>>52161605
Maybe play spells that aren't creatures you moron

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>tfw Tron will LITERALLY never get banned

>>52161647
It's a sad feel breh

>>52158881
>It's like saying you need a $600 shoe grease before youre allowed to competitively play soccer.
more like dropping one grand on a golf club

>Brewing

Brewing up an esper tempo/flash deck. Here's the list so far http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/05-01-17-esper-tempo/

I took the shell of this jeskai flash deck I saw and made it esper when Fatal Push was revealed, figuring that hand disruption would be an okay trade-off for the burn in the jeskai version which I played before throwing this one together.

The deck's fun to play, it's mostly at instant speed so you get a load of choices per turn which I personally find fun. I'm building it IRL after playing it a fuck load on untap. I'm under no illusions that this deck isn't great but I'm fairly happy with it as a brew/pet deck.

>>52161605

I play merfolk, so it's nice to know you're making assumptions just because you're salty.

>>52159666
Sorry, but thank you. Sage

>>52161669
Feels good as a tron player

I feel bad that wizards sits on their thumbs and doesn't give modern enough land hate to fight tron

>>52161647
You're in for a real shocker on April 24th

>>52161713

Your analogy is shit. A deck isn't a single club, it's a set of them, and if you haven't spent 800-1k on a set of clubs everyone knows you're a casual.

>>52156980
>playing
U/W control. Pure control with think Twice, playset of cryptics, sphinx's rev, and big elspeth and secure the wastes as finishers. No wall of omens/resto angel stuff.
>Hating
Tron of all kinds and burn. Play ghost quarters/surgicals in the side for tron plus fire firewalkers for burn. Also the standard antibaffijity package. There's no DSJ at my LGS so I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
>Brewing
Free win red. Bunch of rituals plus blood/magus of the moon, Chandra, chalice, ensuring bridge. Turn one blood moons/koths are fun. It started as kind of just a big red deck instead of a prison deck, with like stormbreath dragon and the good/batterskull shin dig, but I saw the ensnaring bridge brew online and I I was like damn that's way better.

>>52161790
You mean when they unban preordain and I can play a proper control deck instead of LMAO KARN.dec?

>>52161811
For my work and profession I made the effort to learn to play golf. There's just golf events throughout the year and the company has to represent; and I'd rather spend a day or two out of the office than be in it.

I'm using my dad's old clubs. A set of steel clubs that are old as fuck and in a tawny and brown bag that is 80s-90s in style.

Everyone has thousands of dollars in clubs and I bet I couldn't even get $10 for mine.

It's not about your clubs it's about how good you are. And I always place first in my group because I'm only okay at the game. I can hit the ball straight and putt; and that makes me better than people who shelled out god knows how much on clothes and gear to look good in front of the other companies.

The thing is, you can't substitute budget cards in Magic. It doesn't matter how good you are, there's no substitute for Liliana of the Veil. There's no substitute for Cryptic Command. And though there's substitutes for shocks and fetches, you will notice the times not having them fail you. It doesn't matter how good you are, if your tools are lacking, your performance will be lacking. The price barrier is very real. The equipment price barrier is not real in golf (but green fees are holy shit).

>>52162010

And on top of that (here's the OTHER flaw in the analogy that Ill point out...) in this analogy, you also need to use a genuine Golfing™ club. If you use any other line of clubs, you get disqualified, regardless of individual skill.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lightning-bolt-tribal/
I've got a Modern 2k Open coming up this weekend and I plan on bringing this pile to the event
Think I stand a chance, or should I just kill myself?

>>52162132
Looks good. No criticisms that can't be called personal preferences. I play the same deck; might think about Flame Jab one day.

>>52162180
I haven't actually tested flame jab yet. Its just an add-in because I've had way too many games where I get flooded, and I don't like Molten Vortex because I'm gay.

>>52162222
If you were worried about flooding I would just play a heavier burn spell like Koth.

The reason why Flame Jab seems good is because the metagame has a lot of 1-toughness assholes you want to repeatedly smash. I did not look at it like a mana sink.

>>52160007
Either DSJ or Affinity. Depends on your playstyle and how much you really want to spend on a Deck.
If Tron, I recommend the Eldrazi one, found it more "fun".

>>52162222
>I'm gay
Quads of truth

>>52161605
>degenerate card that promotes uninteractive games of magic
You mean like what Affinity does?
>Windmill slam a Ravager
>Do it again a billion times

>>52162610
The stupidity in these threads never ceases to amaze

>>52162610
I literally advocate for an opal ban in an earlier post in that chain anon lrn2read

>>52157774
you can build cubes from you cards with some effort, so you can keep them usable even if they lose their value. Constructed formats will evolve so you'll have to get new cards eventually, unless you go legacy or vintage, which on the other hand can be fairly expensive.

>>52162649
Are you actually trying to say that affinity is interactive?

whats the point in playing paper magic when I can just play magic duels for free

>>52158689

Shit that's gross. Tap whiteclay to crew looter scooter, swing, bin something like leonin arbiter, wait for your opponent to forget and fetch, snap it back in with whiteclay and watch them have a seizure.

>>52162997
Kek

>>52162997
>why would I play chess when I can play checkers with only half the pieces

>>52162999
Oh yeah definitely, this shit is going straight into my lithium tribal deck.

>>52163012
>>52163030
I wasn't trying to troll I'm genuinely asking because I'm new to this game.

>>52163145
Because paper magic gives you access to all the cards

>>52163145
I only played briefly, and it was a while ago but from what I remember
1) Magic Duels is a dumbed down version of actual magic gameplay
2) In Magic Duels you don't have access to nearly as many cards, and can't experience different formats
3) it's a dumb iPhone game instead of a real and interactive social experience
4) You can't buy singles, and can't resell them if you want to switch decks and buy into something

>>52163145
Ask yourself this question in 6 months. You'll know the answer by then.

>>52163232
>>52163198
Alright thanks for answering, I was asking because I want to get into magic proper but I'm a poorfag gas station attendant and from what I heard good decks cost like five trillion dollars. So far from what I played I like green the most

>>52163263
You should look into pauper or limited formats if you're low on funds. Pauper is a format where only commons are allowed so even the most expensive decks are only like a hundred dollars, and you can easily build a solid deck for like 5/10.
Limited is a format where people don't bring decks to play, they all open up boosters and make decks right then and there, so it's just chance and deck building skill which determines who has a better deck, there's no "pay to win" variable involved.

>>52163802
Fuck off no Pauper deck is $100 even the top competitive ones. You're talking like $50 tops for something with a set of Delvers, Ponders, and Bolts.

>>52163857
Well there ya go even cheaper then

>>52163802
Disadvantage of Pauper is that most of the cards you'll buy aren't relevant in other formats, although they only cost quarters.

Great for budgets and not much else.
What does the local FNM scene look like?

>>52160986
Have you played the deck? It's wildly inconsistent. For every game you win you're going to have two games where you topdeck stone rains and lands when you need threats and bonfires.

>>52164115
The main disadvantage of pauper is that it's played less than legacy in paper. It's an awesome format though. It just needs wizards to recognize it as a paper format.

>>52162999
You could also do that with Eldrazi Displacer and Order

>>52161155
Is that what the Modern General has become? Shitposting about the next ban announcement?

>Who else is running Affinity?

>If you had to cut one, Galvanic Blast or Thoughtcast?
Lately I've been running without Thoughtcast, because I never draw into action.
>What's your split for Etched Champions/Master of Etherium?
I run 4 Masters while keeping 3 EChamps in the side because of several other Affinibros at the LGS. Gives me a leg up if I drop Masters while they have Grey Ogres.

>>52158248
desu you dont have to spend thousands. a few decks are quite good for only a couple of hundred. This is a tier list of popular modern decks: https://www.mainphasemtg.net/gamingcontentblog/2017/3/11/the-modern-tier-list-with-analytics-by-ashockfan

Decks that are well under 1000 would be (to my knowledge, may be off about a few):Eldrazi Tron, Bant Eldrazi, Burn, Gx Tron, DnT, merfolk, Gifts storm, Infect, Elves (and probably quite a few more). Those are just the t1 and t2 decks.

In addition, its normally only a few pieces that put the price up (a playset of a 50 dollar card etc). e.g. infect without hierarchs.

>>52161028
any sik plays recently, grishoalbro?

>>52158815
best upgradeabule budget decks are mono R burn and budget UG infect, both around 100 buckaroos. mono r burn can upgrade with goblin guides and turn it into naya burn, UG infect can upgrade stuff with inkmoth and hierarch

>>52164985
Well, I got the insta-combo the other night
>Splice Breach onto Goryo's Vengeance
>REanimate the G-Daddy and cheat out Bobo
>proceed to draw my deck and bombard the hapless soul across the table from me

It's a fucking crazy deck and I will be sad if it goes the way of Bloom Titan if some faggot like Speck cheats his way into a nut draw

>>52164890
April 24th.

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>>52165077
nice, i instakilled a storm player today when he tapped out for gifts
I agree the deck's sweet. i personally really enjoy the postboard games where they mull to grave hate and i slam wurm/emrakul on turn 3

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>>52165410
I worry that SSG will be banned and that will slow the deck down, but I think Pyretics could be subbed in as a suitable substitute. The deck is inconsistent enough where I'm not overly concerned about a neuter

>mfw they surprise ban Shoal on the next B&R update

>>52165486
Don't worry you'll get to play it without ssg when the 24th comes. They won't touch shoal because it's not a vintage level card like ssg, mox opal, death's shadow or ancient stirrings.

>>52163857
Well, Pauper Burn used to be the most expensive deck, clocking in at about $100 because of Chain Lightning. That's to it getting reprinted, though, the price dropped to about $65. I believe it's still the most expensive (paper) deck, with UR Delver being the most expensive mtgo deck (at 100 or so tix.)

best basic island(s)?

>>52165610
MBC with a playset of Oubliettes can cost more than $100, although that's both an exception and a card not fitting the current meta.

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I'm a rampfag and want to buy into modern. This got 24th in the latest SCG open, is it better or worse than just a straight tooth and nail deck?
There is one thing I don't like about this and it's all the 1-ofs. On a fundamental level, I hate using 1-ofs and if the deck functions best with them then I guess I just have to go for a different deck.

>>52165722
>this lack of Genesis Wave

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>>52165631
Personal fave. Looks so warm and cozy, like a postcard from the 70s.

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>>52165486
>slow the deck down
not to be a downer but the deck dies without free mana
i mean i guess you could do the fury of the horde all-in on combat style but the instant speed shoal version would be gone as there wouldn't really be an advantage to drawing your deck in one turn

>>52165631
>best basic island

>>52164890
Looking to get into affinty and I've been looking at recent lists and they've completely dropped glimmer void for Spire. Is this normal? should there be a split?

I already have a play set of both for lantern I was just wondering what the reasoning was.

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>>52165722
>no wistful selkie
>only one primal command and eternal witness
>no genesis wave
>nissa
i never understand why people finds funny turn good deck into pile of garbage in order to show some brew "skill" which they don't even have....

so I'm going to local game stores modern tournament and I'm going to play this deck what do you guys think it needs it feels off i was thinking 2 blood moons but idk
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/knobgobblers-v2/

>>52166534
This.
Double-sleeve everything, and make sure the inner sleeve is tinted or kaleidoscopic. Bothers the richfags every time because they think you're hiding fake cards. But the judge looked at them and they're not.

But they are.

what's the most fun two-color variant of Bant Eldrazi? I been thinking U/G or U/W

I'm in a special situation where I own all the real cards I want in Modern. But everyone also knows I own tonnes of the fake cards. I also let the store owner know I own fakes. I also never bother trading cards with people or selling cards to the store. My only participation in the card "economy" is purchasing them.

The situation has been interesting because it has revealed to me that there are some real dipshits in my store. I have been nothing but a positive presence in the store but some people are very much in opposition to my owning fakes. They don't say it outright but they always want to look at my cards when I play even though I know just as well as they do exactly what Snapcaster does. They just want to catch me using my fakes but I never actually play with my fakes in sanctioned events.

And here is where I unfairly call them malicious and retarded. They can't publicly eviscerate my reputation because they can't catch me because I don't give them any opportunity. And there's no way to disrupt my reputation in regards to trades because I don't engage in it. I just don't fit into their mold of some filthy pirate jeopardizing the real money they dumped on their stupidly expensive cards because the store owner knows I've given more money to him than they ever have.

What are you going to do? Get angry that I'm not using real duals or fetches in my EDH deck? My non-sanctionable EDH deck? The deck I don't want to have to fucking unsleeve every time I want to use the cards in constructed?

Do they feel I am providing a bad example to players who might buy proxies instead of buying them from the store? My store barely sells cards because everyone buys all their shit online anyways. It's not like proxies are actually significantly damaging their bottom line if at all - the fact that players are unwilling to shop local is a bigger problem than anything.

>>52167213

>implying people who use proxies as real cards for sanctioned tournaments can be reasoned with

>>52166534
>autistic screeching

>>52162099
t. lazy entitled millenial

>>52160007
Build Grishoalbrand and abuse your life total with wanton disregard

>>52161155
What the fuck would even be worth playing after this? Burn? Tron?

>>52162132
>not playing that sweet mono red highlander from RTR years ago

let me show you how to do it right

>>52167465
>>52162132


http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/event-coverage/feature-who-wants-live-forever-2012-10-19

>>52167450
Jund and Abzan still work. Maybe the blue version would cease to be a meme.

Also, merfolk would make a triumphant return.

Do you even play this game?

>>52167571
Why would you ever play jund if SFM and JtMS were unbanned?

>>52166534
>Being this much of a fag.

>>52167651
Because you were dumb enough to buy foil FS goyfs and the equivalent maximum cost Lilis?

Or maybe because you don't want to run JtMS, you just want to be the one running a shell that can support a few Slash Panthers to ram into him.

>>52167213
meanwhile at my store
"you don't have tabernacle? dude who cares just proxy that shit and come play" t. store owner

fakes are totally fine as long as you make them known. playing with fakes is fine, selling fakes is not. if you bring real cards to your sanctioned events nobody can even hold shit against you. sounds like you just have some real assholes in your playerbase

>>52167852
> sounds like you just have some real assholes in your playerbase

literally all the 90% poorfags in these threads. they have the gall to say you're shit for buying real cards and think they're edgy for selling fakes as real ones. they're lucky they're behind 5 proxies

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>>52165722
It will always be a fringe deck. But a fun one. If fun works for you, go ahead and give it a spin.

>>52165731
Genesis Wave is win-more. Primal Command is the way to go.

>>52166028
I agree some things are silly. Never run less than 3 Commands and 3 Witnesses (Witnessi?). Go down to three Oaths. Hornet Queen in the side and don't bother with Craterhoof.

Nissa however could be worth trying in this aggro meta. I can imagine she buys turns vs. DSJ.

>>52168038
You want to try that again? Try using your words this time.

>>52167852
No, I don't think my assholes are anything outrageous. I think they are actually perfectly average for members of the community. Their behavior, expressions, and few uttered statements at the mention or idea of proxies are common to what I see here, on Reddit, and at other stores. They are real people whom I agree with that theft of IP is bad in the production of proxies but what I disagree with them is that the worry over theft of IP goes out the fucking window when it costs people $1000 for a stack of cardboard.

I just put myself in a position to reveal those people to me. And they certainly revealed themselves; they cannot help but show it. I won't accuse them all of it because righteousness has some merits, but some of them certainly feel that proxies threatens the legitimacy of their idiotic purchase of real cards. And it probably really bothers them that they can't make anything stick to me on account that I also have (in my opinion) idiotically purchased those same real cards as well as fake ones not for sale but for use.

I was missing Tabernacles for Lands too. Store owner was also cool for it.

The only reason why I don't use fakes for profit is because it would hurt my store and other brick and mortar stores everywhere. If my store ever closed due to Wizards' fuckery I would drop a thousand on the Chinamen and start giving away fakes to any and everybody. I wouldn't give a fuck if it hurt Wizards or juggernauts in the secondary market responsible for inflating the price of this fucking game to absurd levels.

>>52167824
>Slash Panthers
You do know that Slash Panther was only a thing so you can react to a T1 Jace with a T1 Panther in Shops in Vintage right?

T1 Jace is never happening outside of Vintage thus any mention of Slash Panther as a check to Jace is irrelevant.

I don't even believe that Jace would need a check in Modern. The card would suck enough against the metagame that it would keep itself in check. The only reason why Wizards won't unban him is because of the financial shitstorm and bad press the card has. On a power level he's completely reasonable in Modern. But this has been said before and for some reason it just doesn't stick to people here or anywhere.

I can't tell if you're being facetious or just ignorant.

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>mfw playing 19 land ur delver
>mfw outgrind grixis delver g1 by chaining bedlam revelers
>mfw outgrind grixis delver g2 by burning/countering everything and slamming keranos
who needs black anyways not me

>new to modern
>decide on a deck that sounds fun and just started playing it on xmage (RG Ponza)
>go against 4 tron decks so far
>haven't lost one game

is this matchup really this free?

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>>52166028
we posting devo memes?
>not running 5 eternal witnesses

>>52168708

U (and arguably RG) Tron are free matchups for quite a lot of decks.

Eldrazi Tron is generally thougher since it has access to both an early game plan and hand disruption, while keeping the extraordinary late game

>>52168708
When the deck is working as it should the match up is very much in your favor. Ponza has the problem of sometimes drawing the wrong half of your deck (only finishers, only ramp, only LD and nothing else, etc.) and most games you'll lose to tron will be because of that.

>>52168752
>>52168786
thanks for replying. On a completely unrelated note. I noticed some of the key cards for ponza are in MM3. Do you guys know at around what time after MM3 releases would be the best time to snag these cards for cheap?

>>52168803
Just look for sales on the cards from MM3 for the few months after release. Assuming no meta shifts which make the cards better than they are now they'll probably start climbing back up 5-6 from now.

>>52168803

Blood Moon is currently going down a little, you might want to wait a week or two and see where it lands before starting to climb back.

Scavenging ooze is around 5, which is good enough to buy. Same for Bonefire.

The only card you might want to wait and hope it goes down is BM, since all the others are quite low and won't drop much anyway

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I ask here cause there's no pauper thread. My dad was interested in playing mtg, so what are 2 pauper decks that are kind of 50/50 matchups? Like what decks are evenly powered and will be good for learning. Also, preferably one of them is a delver deck so he can learn more about timing and the stack and that shit not just green stumpy, he's pretty smart so after like 2 games he'll at least know what he's doing, and a delver deck has some decent lines and stuff to be learned.
to;dr: I'm just looking for 2 evenly powered good matchup pauper decks to start playing with my dad

>>52169664

If you'd like to save yourself the trouble of patching together pauper decks you could always start out with something like the Card Kingdom battle decks.

http://www.cardkingdom.com/catalog/shop/battle-decks

They're not really format legal anywhere, but they're cheap (10 bucks, which is around 1/4th the cost of most meta pauper decks) and balanced to be played against each other.

I'd recommend buying more than just two decks though, get four or five so you can switch between them and learn more than two sets of mechanics.

>>52169664
monoblue aggro (assuming you just want delvers and not anglers) should'nt have any real bad matchups, it's that good.
I don't have THAT many matches in, but I find the dimir control, affinity and elves matchups all super interesting. not sure if they're real even matchups (dimir control might have a very slight edge actually), but they will definitely be close matches.

>>52169711
Well I mean money doesn't really doesn't matter,I just don't want to drop a grand on tron or some shit if he doesn't end up enjoying it that much, I'd rather play against actual good interesting decks, like pauper power level is up there

>>52169760
Blue delver and affinity sound great man, thanks for the tips

>>52158741
I gotta agree, I do however need a good reason to use her in something, I bought Azusa because of the meme pricing but cut her pretty quick from a counter deck.

>>52158322
The game is as much about deck-building as it about prediction and good piloting. Decking-building seems overwhelmingly like the more dominate part because of the sheer number of choices and possible strategies you can run in modern let alone legacy, and so how much time everyone spends on it. You're always building a deck around a strategy to begin with and naturally the best decks are fast and have good coverage. You still have to play them well with your opponent in mind, you're at least playing a best of 3, so to make good sideboard choices is also critical. The second two games your opponent knows your deck and having multiple strategies to win with your sideboard cards is the difference between playing competitive or remaining in scrub FLGS tier in my opinion.

It also helps to just to have your core cards. There's just a cost entry level unfortunately for the best versions cards that are either the fastest or most efficient.

>>52158322
The strategy goes along with the deck construction. Decklists usually comment on synergies, sequecing, common plays in different match-ups, etc. Haven't you ever seen a primer/deck tech before?

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Do you see guys Noble dipping in price anytime in the near future, or should I just bite the bullet and buy them now?

I want to build Bant Spirits. I originally thought BoP could be a fine replacement for Noble but Exalted just helps way too much in a deck full of 1/1 and 2/1 creatures.

>>52158599
actually card prices go up and down and right now modern prices on some of the best core cards is dropping due to a reprint in a few days. You get your more valuable cards when they're cheap and its extremely easy to turn a profit reselling them and moving up. You dont make profit on the rest of your deck but that means the singles are like 10-20c. Look at a deck you like or tappedout.net, look at what the cards cost and get the cheaper one. You can sub in other cards (like tap lands instead of fetchlands) and suddenly you have a functional deck for around the $50. It'll have slight disadvantages to the $500, but they're not as significant as you think.

>>52170513
Prolly won't dip unless they reprint in a standard set which is pretty unlikely even though I'd love to see exalted come back, in the mean time JUST DO IT

>>52157774
I found out that I like commander for that reason

I bought an Atraxia deck and now i can throw in any cards of 4 out of 5 colors into that deck. At first it was a pretty good deck with the mechanics it had, after upgrading a few times I have a decent combo deck that makes powerful monsters and there are a few 15 dollar cards in there that I draw every couple of games for massive shenanigans

You can only have 1 of any card in a deck of 100 cards exactly, so you get alot of diversity in play and games and cards.

You can buy a Commander deck straight up and build off of that.

Its fun because if you're at a store or trading you will see a single card that fits well in your deck, so you can get it, and you don't have to worry about getting 4 copies of expensive cards.

>>52170513
It didn't get a reprint in MM17, so it most likely isn't dropping significantly if at all.

>>52157980
Put together the deck and played a few games. I feel like it should have more tireless trackers, it works well with knight getting lands, renegade returning a fetch for 2 clues, playing lands off the top with courser, playing lands from the graveyard with crucible, and even if you've only got it and a hand of lands it's good.
Azusa was varied. If I had a courser she was ok, playing a fetch off the top then shuffling to get more land on top of the deck was good. Other times she was a dead card. I assembled the crucible GQ azusa combo once and my opponent immediately scooped.
Dromoka's command was a piece of shit 9/10 and furthers my belief that players are just putting them in any GW brew they make so the site they work for can sell off excess stock. It's not modern playable in the slightest.

>mm 2017 boxes now worth less than 220 Estimated value
Lmao cucks btfo

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>>52170571
>>52170539
Well with the speculation that Amonkhet is returning to shards/wedges there's a very slight chance it might get reprinted.

I won't be holding my breath though, I'll probably just buy them this week.

Thoughts on this spirit as a sideboard card in bant spirits? I was thinking it would be great to hit off of CoCo or flash it in with Rattlechains but I'm not totally sure.

>>52170671
Mfw the glorious cheap core cards

Im going to get 4 blood moons and 4 snapcasters, maybe some lillys if they drop enough

>>52170703
You're probably better off with a removal spell, there aren't a lot of go wide decks in the meta right now
fun to recur with proclamation of rebirth in the right deck though

>>52170723
Im getting my playset of goyfs. In two months youll see some around $60 just wait

>>52170723
Oh fuck yeah senpai, prices are already hit hard and it hasn't even come out yet

>>52170736
Yea that's true. I suppose I am in green anyway so if I need an Fog effect I would just run actual Fog.

>>52170703
do we have any idea what the Egyptian gods are about? Are they Enchant creatures or eldrazi type creatures.

Also, can anyone think of any Yu-gi-oh-ish cards I can use.

Ive been wanting to make a Yugioh themed deck in either modern or commander, maybe based on one of the characters if I can find similar looking magic cards. Im going to try and run it full of traps and maybe morph and fuse creatures for the face down cards, if I can get 'Egyptian god cards' I would be the final missing meme to make the deck completely insufferable and probably a steaming heap of crap.

>>52170764
>Already $15 goblin guides with better art
>probably hit $10

My goblin burn deck will finally be complete

So LSV and Gabby Spatz 100% had an affair right?

>Dec 2016
>LSV who usually streams 2-3 times a week vanishes. His usual 10+ tweets a day fall to only 1 tweet a week.
>Gabby announces she is goinf through personal stuff. Stops streaming for 2 months.

>Jan/Feb 2017
>LSV commentating GP or PT something can be seen without his wedding band. Rumors go around that his wife mentions divorse on her facebook. Can't be seen by public.

>March 2017
>Gabby returns to streaming telling everyone she's getting a divorse
>LSV returns to streaming. Background completely different. Looks like an appartment. Sold all his foil power 9, likely to pay for a lawyer, moving, etc.

Gotta feel bad for the man, but his wife was fucking hideous. Too bad he just had a baby though. If he really is hooking up with gabby that's a mile step up. Could just be coincidence though.

>>52165037
Infect sucks now tho

>>52170829
Wouldnt surprise me. Wizards coverage team had a mop boy to clean up after gabby. Every time LSV said something mildly amusing, like a 2/10, her legs started quivering and she was cumming buckets. You can hear it in her trembling voice and awkward laugh whenever LSV opens his mouth

>>52170829
Someone confirm this

>>52170829
Interesting. Anyone have the screen shots of Frank Lapore cheating on Melissa De Tora?

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>>52170945
It's true, look at this fucking goblin creature

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>>52170959
I see the resemblance

>>52170959
Looks like she has downs syndrome

>>52170829

who?

>>52171014
>>52170959
What would her stats be? Are the uglier goblins better or worse than the more handsome ones?

Goblin Cuck Queen
Legendary Goblin Creature

Haste

When Goblin Cuck enters the battlefield give each opponent one creature you control. If you do not control any other creatures, sacrifice Goblin Cuck.

2/2

"M-my husband is getting in shape f-for m-me, the Queen."

>>52170959
boi that hairline looking like a 2-car garage

>>52165954
It prevents the rare cases where you can get blown out by them blowing up your Artifact(s) and losing Glimmervoids.

>>52170945
https://courtlink.lexisnexis.com/cookcounty/FindDock.aspx?NCase=2017-D00-1686&SearchType=0&Database=4&case_no=&PLtype=1&sname=&CDate=

>>52157774
>very little in-game skill

Lol

Anyway my advice is to draft a few times on something free like xmage or cockatrice and if you like if do it irl.

The great thing about magic cards is when you have enough you can always play against friends kitchen table and have a million more options than a complete set of star wars bros

>>52158226

No just have an agreement on proxies with your friends.

>>52170829
The most convincing piece of evidence I have heard against this is that it's fucking LSV. Who the fuck would have an affair with him?

Alright so how bad is this idea? Temur deck with slippery boggle, Delver, and Invisible Stalker. And just miracle and burn cards from there.
Turn 1 Delver
Turn 2 flip Delver, miracle blessing of Nature, hit for 7
Is this just a worse boggles Deck?

>>52170829
>foil power 9
Kek

>>52161155
>Wizard will ban problematic deck says increasingly nervous man for the 10th time this year

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>>52164115
>Disadvantage of Pauper is that most of the cards you'll buy aren't relevant in other formats, although they only cost quarters.


>Delver, Brainstorm, daze, preordain, ponder, counterspell, gurmag angler, bolt aren't played in anybother format

>mfw it's half the grixis delver legacy deck, you just slap 5 dual lands and 4 force of will and you have a legacy deck.

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>>52164804
>Wizard will recognize a format where you can spend 50$ for a top tier deck and update it with 0.25$ cards every once in awhile

How will they sell Planeswalker card in pauper anon ?
Meme frontiere have much more chance being recognized by Jews of the Coast than pauper will ever.

>>52170829
>LSV commentating GP or PT something can be seen without his wedding band
Can someone confirm this?

LSV's background has changed, that's true.

>>52165954

Last time I checked with my local Affinity expert he said that there's been a divide in opinion between how many to run or if they should replace entirely or just run a split. So most were running a split(2-2 or 1-3 etc.) in testing and tournaments and results have shown that the life loss has been barely negligible in most cases. It has allowed more consistent keepable hands and mulligans in the cases where if Glimmervoid was your only land you would have a difficult time keeping the hand.

>>52171626
?
You can have foil power 9 on MODO.

>>52165954
The life loss doesn't matter since the only deck that realistically races you is Burn or the mirror, which are rarely if ever lost or won at 1 life. Spire makes for more keepable hands and you get blown the fuck out less by turn 1 interaction, eg. if you go glimmervoid drum and they decay/grudge drum, you're fucked whereas with Spire you don't care.
>>52172318
Not enough dough in those to pay for lawyers etc.

>>52159180

Ad naus is one of the higher tier 2 decks actually it just very hard to play (optimally)

>>52165954
Also if you play Sea Gate Wreckage Spire taps for anus for it whereas Glimmervoid doesn't.

>>52172332
It wasn't JUST his foil power 9, it was his entire collection

>>52172040
twitch tv/videos/119349241

Look @6:00 or so

>>52159219

This deck actually has potential but this list is terrible

>>52167523
>>52167465
Anon, I actually want to have a chance at winning, not just to play some pile of crap

>>52170562
Not him but I like commander for that but I'm not too sure on actually wanting to only play commander only at times because I like being competitive.

>>52159068

Bubble Hulk

>>52170829
God I hope this is true

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>>52170513
>mfw i still need a set

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>>52172833
I too need a set. just going to have to shell out the $200+ dollars for 4 pieces of cardboard.

>>52170829
>reddit thread about how LSV streams again
>people discuss this topic
>fun police arrives and locks it down

Where there is smoke, there is fire, I guess. And nice 2-for-1 if it's legit. The true master of value.

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>>52172336
>Hard to play optimally
lmao
it's
>Autistically research either angel's grace/phyrexian unlife or ad nauseam and cast them as fast as i can.
Then it's a matter of not being a retard and boarding correctly.

There is litteraly 0 decision making in the deck, look at the other card except the win cons, it's draw/dig cards and 3 counter spell.

>>52173001
The plays come in when you have to spend Graces to just stay alive and Pacts to counter potentially game-ending plays/disruption and whether to value Nauseam, when and in which matchups you can afford the lifeloss if you fizzle with the top n cards etc. Also reading your opponent whether he's holding Stony Silence or permission when playing out your turn 2 cantrips is a thing, eg. not taking Lotus Bloom with Sleight of Hand if your Bant Eldrazi opponent's t1 play with 6 or 7 cards is color land-go (so no turn 2 TKS or Noble into a clock with permission up from turn 3 onwards). Spoils can be used either to just dig for combo or mana/answer to Canonist/Teeg etc, counting hypergeometrics of milling key cards or killing yourself on the fly is a skill.

In modern does anything have to be banned other than mental mistep?

I mean you could unban everything and have a meta of all t2 t3 combo decks but mental mistep would clearly be the best card

And the format would become mental misstep v chalice

>>52173160
top maybe

>>52173160
Yeah, man, that sounds so much fun. I would love turn 2 infect kills all day long.

>>52173001

Have you ever actually played the deck though? You sound like youve played vs it once and they got a bad draw

>>52172833
Just buy from the chinaman, they are like 99% identical to the real deal and cost like 3$

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>>52173503
Not this shit again.

>>52173503
>99% Identical
Lmao

>>52173160
>I have never heard of Shoal Infect

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This just happened, and while I know it sounds like a blog post, I don't really care.

>Friend: Hey, I'm building a Modern deck.
>Me: Oh, really? Sweet. Which deck, because I can help you with your list.
>Friend: UB Wizards. I'm thinking it can be pretty good.

>>52173632
Sounds like your friend isn't building a modern deck, but a modern-legal casual deck.

>>52173503
1 nipcoin has been deposited into your account

>>52173599
i mean, if your opponent brings a loupe to the table, then yeah.

>>52173599
>>52173547

The chances of getting called out are quite literally null unless you're trying to trade the cards or you've built a reputation for yourself as a poorfag in the specific store you're playing at.

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>>52173667
>+1USD to your star of david games Account
The good is i just need 3 for my chinamen fakes, while you are wating your money on the same cardboard but at ridiculous prices

>>52173632
Well at least he isn't an autistic judgmental faggot posting anime reaction images on a forum for fat autists like you.

>>52173160
Past no ban list events have shown that skullclamp horribly warps everything. Misstep and clamp and probably the only two must have bans

>>52173969
How dare people give their money to their LGS or an online vendor that keeps the hobby healthy and alive rather than giving their money to some gook fuck for a poorly made fake!!!

>>52173969
These chinamen fags are getting more ridiculous with each thread. Never miss an opportunity to talk about how much I fucking love proxy cards. Aren't proxy cards the best? Hey guys, anon here, just got home with a brand new batch of proxies, best feeling in the world. Have you got your proxies yet? Why don't you just buy chinamen? What's that? You're getting a raise at work? I love raises, that way I can buy more chinamen fakes. Knock knock, do you have a moment to spare to talk about our lord and savior, mistah chinamen proxy? Hi, you might remember me as the mtg guy, I used to say "can you buy me now?" But now I've switched to chinamen, why pay 10000% more, for less than a 1% difference? All these cards are basically the same now, why pay more? Haha great joke man, that reminds me of the time I saved a bunch of money buy buys my chinamen.
Like wtf no one cares about you love no nip Dick so much, why you gotta shit up every thread by running a goddamn Broadway play about your proxy obsession.

>>52173632
No shit senpai there was a streamer with a wizard tribal brew a few months ago just rolling popular match ups with his jank. There's some potential there I think. But as I recall his deck was UR and came down to snap bolts and faerie beats for the win con

>>52174132
>Paying singles on extremely inflate prices to a jew, that also makes money of sealed events and tournament entries
I feel no pity for them

>>52173632
This >>52173654

my mtg friends are quiet casual so i end up brewing fun modern legal shitpiles to play vs them, despite most of them using legacy cards.

And you can for quiet cheap build a decent reanimator legacy deck if i would want to turn 3-4 them but im not that big of a cunt.

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>>52173969
>a couple hundred dollars is a ridiculous price to him
HOLY SHIT COULD YOU IMAGINE BEING SUCH A POOR PATHETIC FAGGOT?
CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT AN AUTISTIC PIECE OF SHIT YOU HAVE TO BE TO WAKE UP AND CONVINCE YOURSELF EVERYONE DOESN'T KNOW YOUR CARDS ARE SHIT AND YOU'RE POOR
WHAT A PATHETIC POOR LITTLE WORTHLESS FAGGOT, IF YOU CAN'T AFFOR IT THEN GET A JOB YOU FUCKING DISGUSTING WASTE OF SPACE
PLEASE KILL YOURSELF HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>BEING THIS POOR AND PATHETIC

>>52174138
I'm 12 is this copypasta?

>>52174171
>to a jew
Fucking Christ when will /pol/ ever stop leaking.

>>52174186
It is now

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>>52174175
>His only argument is he is poor
>When he cannot demostrate why paying 200$ on cardboard is smarter than 2$
KEK
>Is autistic and poor enough to think cardboard rectangles are a luxury, instead of things truly luxury
Double Kek
>Thinks is donald trump but still a poor middle class wage slave on a korean board
Triple kek

>>52174267
The very fact that you don't understand that it's not cardboard is why you're an embarrassment. I collect stamps worth thousands of dollars, is that just paper? I collect coins worth thousands, is that just metal? No you stupid faggot, it has actual value, but you wouldn't understand because you yourself are worthless. Must really suck to not be able to afford things you enjoy

>>52174267
Imagine being this delusional and poor

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>>52174300
>I collect stamps
> I collect coins
>Not an autist

>>52174323
>I don't have arguments
>i WILL KEEP CALLING HIM POOR SO I WILL BE RIGHT TOP KEK
you have spent too much time on internet

>>52174375
>Buying things that are worthless because you are too poor to afford the real thing
Explain to me how you are not poor

>>52174410
I waste my money on things that ACTUALLY are worth money like coke and whores, instead of pieces of papers some autist belives are worth more than 3 usd each

>>52174439
Holy shit you're so cool

>>52173632
Fuck that sounds really fun. Fuck it, I'm gonna make a meme 4 color wizard tribal deck for fun

>>52174439
Hey everyone check out how COOL this anonymous liar on the internet is

y-you guys w-wanna talk about Modern?

>>52174484
Do you play Tron?

>>52158815
If you ever want to go and change it to a different deck (almost entirely) you can go ahead and try out mono green devotion, which (at least with my list) and you super magical christmas land, you can hardcast Emrakul turn 2.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/developing-competitive-modern/565457-green-nykthos-devotion-includes-tooth-nail

>>52174484
NO. THIS IS CHINAMEN PROXY GENERAL GTFO NORMIEFAG.

>>52174492
No I play affinity but I'm building Bant Spirits right now, I also have Soul Sisters as a kind of budgety deck for friendly games.

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How many Archangel of Thune should I get for Soul sisters?

>>52174512
>Bant Spirits

You're alright, don't go to FNM tomorrow

>>52174571
Reid duke runs a playset. I played it for a while and ran 3.

>>52174300
You looks like an autist
Only autists would find a children game with cardboard where you roleplay as a mage that cast spells as a luxury.

I understand a lot of mtg players are autistic, but please, hide it a little bit m8

Daily reminder to report proxy faggots like the one shitting up the thread.

working on skred red
>spirit guide vs mind stone

>>52174862
spirit guide

>>52172419
commander is broken, so you have to play for fun, if you wanted to you could have a turn 3 win

I played some massive fag that was using a deck like that with like 900 Myr tokens.

Instead of ending the game he just dragged it on and on saying "who wants me to untap their mana for them" and preventing anyone from damaging anyone else.

Some infinite mana combo that he probably cheated to get into his hand, he could essentially control every aspect of the game, life, tapping, land, handsize, i mean everything.

So playing shit like that, not fun, but making a deck that is good to play in multiplayer is nice.

>>52174862
The mind stone version > the cheesy ssg version

Okay so I have my meme deck kind of going now, It's mainly blue.

So far I have Docent of Perfection as a one of, just cause.
Training Grounds, Izzet Guildmage, manamorphose for that combo.
Voidmage prodigy, for the flavor
Azorius Guildmage maybe, cause it's good with training grounds,
Dimir guildmage cause he's okay with training grounds and draws cards
Vendilion Clique, and Venser, both 1 or 2 ofs just for utility.
Can anybody else think of good wizards? Not sure if I'm going with snapcaster yet desu

>>52174897
>>52174947
Guess I'll try a split
3 ssg 2 stones 22 lands

>>52174855
Report the idiots that fell for the bait too
So they learn not to respond to it

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>>52174725
>Reid Duke
>playing Soul Sisters

Holy fuck, how did this bullshit happen?

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>>52174960

If mainly blue and all wizards, Azami
A couple cursecatchers maybe, they are still wizards, glen elendra archmage, mizzium meddler, serendib sorcerer against big creatures

There are a lot of blue wizards with useful abilities. You could even go with snow islands and use things like pic related

>>52158935

Do you actually resolve this wincon regularly?

Counterspell would save modern

>>52175050
>>52174862
i've been on no nonland mana (23 lands) for a couple games and it hasn't let me down yet

>>52156980
Where do yuropoors buy cards? Where do you guys get fakes?

>>52177778
MKM, DHgate.

>>52178213

>>52178213

>>52178213


not dead yet