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Overcosted Units Edition.

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>>52152318

>Daily Preachings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcn3fdUEYxI

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
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>40k rules reference in wiki format.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>List organizer picture book
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>Offline list builder
https://battlescribe.net/

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
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Dante book epub anyone?
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First for OP picture is shit
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Reposting again

Pls r8 my list, I want to start buying models
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where can I find the storm bringer trilogy on the mega archives?
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Xth for bisexual sororitas
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>>52156456
>Sword is coldest at the power nodes and hottest the furthest out.
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>>52156456
Talons of emprah edition?
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>>52156495
Drop that ugly flamer speeder and get a rhino to that third squad of marines, walking marines are dead marines
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>>52156521
>he thinks Big E cared about physics when he made the sword
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First for Guilliman and Yvraine star crossed lovers.
Those child bearing hips and demi god sperm would create the ultimate masterrace.
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>>52156506
Should have waited and made 69th.
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>>52156495
what app is that?
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>>52156565
Here, take your (You)
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Leaving basic CSM without special weapons feels wrong... What do you think Anons?
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>>52156555
>hips
>not the saint of thicc
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>>52156430
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>>52156555
Are we RT era now? With half Eldar space marine labriarians?

At this point a loyalist demon army sounds sensible. Specially if you run deamonette with "slut" written on them.
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>>52156574

https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#!/rosterCreator#%2FrosterCreator
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>>52156598
Third link

>>52156240
Bump
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>>52156531
Yeah assuming that custodes stay 250 points for a squad of 5.
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>>52156537

Thoughts on this one?

I'm trying to also make it based on bundles and boxes I can buy.
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>>52156595
>not impregnating them both and then planting the embryos into the revived body of Sanguinius
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Guilliman finished what you guys think? :)
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>>52156686
Aren't Custodes basically marines?

Do the models give you a blowjob while playing? Since I can't justify 250 for 5 models
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So is there a realistic possibility of space marines getting a rescale? Or is it just a new separate faction / ultramarines moved to a new faction?
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>>52156706
Did you accidentally a finecast Guiliman?
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>>52156711
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Burning%20of%20Prospero%20Imperial%20Datasheets.pdf
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>>52156706
Nice.. Can't wait to see it painted
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>>52156706
noice
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>>52156678
>https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#!/rosterCreator#%2FrosterCreator

thank you
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>>52156711
Army of 2W characters with EW 2+ and ap2(or ap3 3++) 5 BS WS S T
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>>52156728
Bahahahahahha oh god those things are bad. Situational at best.
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>>52156595
She's not as interesting as Yvraine.
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>>52156711
>>52156711
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>>52156711
Don't know about 40k, but in 30k they're a bit strong. Hell, their generic HQ can slap just about any primarch's dick off.
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>>52156767
Way expensive for what they do. Specially if you need a Landraider for them to their job.

500 points for 6 models... Yeah right.

Well maybe in theory 11 models if you count the 2 wounds, but still way to pricey for what they are.
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>>52156555
When will Big G ally himself with the Tau? and get himself a harem
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Retarded question; can cypher be fielded as an ally without a detachment, but with the rest of the army still getting their detachment bonuses?

I remember someone saying something like this, but I might be remembering it wrong.
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Attempting a reasonably fluffy list that's semi competitive, what do you guys think?

Have heard mixed things about HF in melta-vet teams, opinions?
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>>52156835
Girlyman is building his own personal Battle Harem.

Basically the fluff for my Inquisitor
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>>52156853
He can be part of your primary detachment if it's Armies of the Imperium or Chaos Space Marines and doesn't take up a slot
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Why are Tyranid players such babies? All they do is bitch and moan about how underpowered they are. Im an Ork player and I admit Orks suck to play as but I don't make a fucking thread everyday and clutter /40kg/ with complaints and shitty memes. Are they upset that they used to be powergaming faction but then the nerf hammer came down too hard?
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>>52156565
>xd 69 XD lol rekt le meme xp 696969 BECUZ SEX

(you)
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what went wrong?
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>>52156853
Yes, he can be part of any primary detachment, be is a CAD, Castellan, Anvil Strike force, or so on.
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>>52156914
My primary detachment is an Aquila kill team with six dudes in it, you're saying I could just throw him into that?
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>>52156686
>>52156761
Wtf are yall on about, Custodes are great. They rekt me on several occasions.
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Got my copy of the GS Companion book today. One thing I found really interesting about Goodwin/Seb Perbet's sketch of Guilliman is that they thought about giving him items and motifs to represent some of the other loyalist Primarchs. Ferrus' spanner, Sanguinius' wings, Belt of Russ, Hand of Dorn (Instead of Hand of Dominion), and the Lion's Sword (Instead of nothing or the Emperor's Sword.) Guilliman also would or does have signets inside his gorget with a mixture of empty space and skulls for the living and dead loyalist Primarchs.

His armor is of course so big because it's walking life support device/statis field, with covered ports on the back that are for the purpose of recharging the suit.
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>>52156706
is that a rare melted Guiliman?
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>>52156984
The rest of the model looks alright, just the highlights are a little chalky. He obviously needed a smaller brush to do them. This same problem applies to the face, as the painter doesn't seem to have a small enough brush to do eyes. There's also no shading or blending done on the face, so it looks flat compared to the rest of the model.
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>>52156984
thinyourpaints/10
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>>52156984
Closet gays.
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>>52156929
>look at me, I'm not complaining :^)
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>>52156984
9/10
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>>52156990
>>52156989
Oh.

Thanks for spoon feeding me
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>>52156984
THIN YOUR PAINTS
also female spess marine.
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>>52156690
Your Librarian can't get in the razorback with the command squad even if he wasn't Bulky. Terminator armor prohibits entrance to rhinos and razorbacks.

Unless you were running him alone. In which case, don't.
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>>52156984
Boypussy ultrasmurf, nice
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>>52156984
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>>52156761
You haven't played with or against them yet?
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>>52156997
Just because you suck at the game does not mean something is good.

They are overprice for what they do.
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>>52157093
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>>52157073
>>52157029
I love how /tg/ is so retarded that whenever they see a model they don't like, they immediately start autistically screeching "THIN YOUR PAINTS, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE", even if the model is obviously already painted with fully thinned paints.
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>>52156678
>spoon feeding faggots that can't read the fucking OP
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>>52157128
>melted face
>dem thicc edge highlights
I mean, the standard and the armour in general don't look bad, but he could do at least with a smaller brush.
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>>52156456
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>>52157207
Much better OP pic.
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>>52156477
Meant Gifts

One game you might get 4+ Feel No Pain and +1 W and IWND to your Bloodthrister. The next game you get a 3+ Armour Save (BTs already have a 3+, so a waste) and a S8 AP1 18" lance

The first one is significantly more durable than the second one.

>One game my LoC had a 4+ FNP and 3+ Armour Save. Next game he had Fleshbane and the lance attack. Just a 5++ is not durable.
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>>52156984
head is off, everythicc else is ok
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>>52157207
>SoB squated the image

As long as the Tau get axed to I'm fine with it
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>>52156984

1) There is a tutorial how to photograph minis. This will help more than anything in diagnosis.
2) The paints appear to be thinned but there are no distinguishable washes or highlighting save for the boots.
3) I too struggle with faces friend. Washes and highlights and camera tricks help.

4) Subjectivity : The head is mounted too high up. The mouth should be half way concealed under the golden outcrop in the chest unless her neck is that of a giraffe. Normal space marines have this issue as well but female heads tend to pronounce it even more. When I think of a guy in armour with fuck-huge shoulderpads I think of the neck support commonly assosciated with NFL players where the shoulders can be brought up to reinforce the neck during violent interactions with other large men in armour.
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>>52157185
Which is exactly what I posted earlier. The artist needed a smaller brush for highlights and faces, as well as more variety in fleshtones.

I'd recommend this method:
> Bugmans Glow
> Cadian Fleshtone
> Wash with Reikland Flesh-shade
> Do a super tiny line of white scar with your smallest brush, but don't feel bad if you fuck it up at this stage
> Do a super tiny dot for the eye colour you want
> Use Kislev flesh on everything except the recesses
> Use palid wych flesh on the finest parts of the model

I mean technically you can get away with smudging the eyes and fixing them afterwards, but I'm skilled enough at painting faces that I just don't make mistakes at that stage, it leads to better looking faces since you retain the recess shades around the eyes.
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>>52157265
Templars all died, though.
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>>52157128
Gold on the crotchcloth and shoulder trim looks too thick especially compared to the standard, which at first glance looks on point.
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>>52157350
>too thicc
FTFY
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I guess I'll try running this until I get some vindicators
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>>52157423
>imperial fisters
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Where were you when new Sisters were confirmed?

(go check out Warhammer TVs Facebook)
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>>52157451
Well, technically Crimson Fists but they use the same rules.
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>>52157461
Where? Last post was 10th of March
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>>52157461
link now you fucking faggot
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>>52157461
Sisters got new models awhile ago in Burning of Prospero. They just announced the individual sprue boxes last week for them of everything in tgat box.
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>>52157296
>I mean technically you can get away with smudging the eyes and fixing them afterwards, but I'm skilled enough at painting faces that I just don't make mistakes at that stage, it leads to better looking faces since you retain the recess shades around the eyes.

How do you dot the eyes? I can paint the eye itself, but I can never dot the eye without resorting to a toothpick.
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>>52157530
>>52157510
You've all been had by a master troll.
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>>52157550
>>52157530

I keep trying to post the link but it says it's spam.
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>>52157314
Please tell me this is a meme.
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>>52157660
if someone was fucking you in the ass (against your will at the momement), would they saying they were doing something else make it suddenly better for you?
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>>52157660
Templars got wiped out apart from, like, a handful of guys.
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>>52157618
Because it is spam. The magnus vidoe lost relevance 5 months ago
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>>52157698
P-please tell me this is a meme.
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Dumb sisters player here:

What does having two bolt pistols actually do? Can Seraphim shoot both, or do they get a reroll, or what?
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>>52157706
It is. The Templars that were at Car is mostly all died, but that was far from all of the Templars
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>>52157714
Gunslinger rule. You can shoot 2 pistols if you have 2. Also go es the extra attack for 2 weapons in close combat.
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>>52157706
Is not anon, they are dead, but don't worry the Tau will join G's merry band sing victory everlasting in this new millennium
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>>52157714
Why do people ask questions that are clearly answered in the rulebook?

Do they just not read the rules?
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>>52157741
Thanks friend.
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>>52157786
Why read when faggots will spoon feed you the rules.
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>>52157806
>why are you such a fag anon?

there are some questions that the world may never know.
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>>52157706
It's a shitposting meme and nothing more. It was a single crusade that got killed. Considering the "only 1000" fluff was never mentioned in any fluff since the book it was mentioned in in 6th, even if the Crusade was huge and had like a thousand Marines, it's still far from everything.
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>>52156767
>cutodian shield-captain
>basically the same statline as ghazghkull
end me suffrin', boyz
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>>52157864
Also, there's still the entirety of Helbrecht's fleet alive and well. Neither Grimaldus nor Helbrecht are incapacitated so their entire chapter command is completely untouched.
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>>52157871
Shield captain would kick his ass also.
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Hey guys looking for second opinions on this list here
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>>52157901
Post the rest
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>>52157901
Second part
Looking for 1850 and I have room for one upgrade still
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>>52157901
It's shit, you don't need power armour on the sorcerer.
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>>52157706
One crusade went down with cadia. The rest of them are still very much alive. And since they were over chapter regulation anyways they're still basically at full str
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Survey time

Favorite Space Marine Chapter
Favorite Chaos SM Chapter
Favorite Xeno Army
Favorite Imperial Army
Favorite character

Orks or Nids
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>>52157929
Dead one
Dead one
Dead one
Dead one
Dead one

Orks

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>52157943
>tfw get triggered every time I see someone elongate waaagh incorrectly
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>>52157929

Favorite marine chapter is Sons of Medusa
Favorite Choas SM is Iron Warriors
Favorite Xenos is probably Orks
Favorite Imperial is Sisters of Battle
Favorite character....not really sure on that one

I hate nids.
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>>52157917
isnt that one marshal still alive?
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>>52157929
>Favorite Space Marine Chapter
Carcharodons
>Favorite Chaos SM Chapter
Not a chapter but Crimson Slaughter
>Favorite Xeno Army
Necrons
>Favorite Imperial Army
Skitarii
>Favorite character
Colonel-Commissar Ibram Gaunt
>Orks or Nids
Orks
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>>52157972
Why friend
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>>52157986
Greyfax hit him with a solid death flag then his own chapter made him into a walking target for martyrdom. What do you think happened?
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>>52157806
I would tell you, but then I'd be spoonfeeding you. Figure it out on your own.
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>>52157929
Blood Angels
Thousand Sons
Eldar
Death Korps of Krieg
Commander Dante of the Blood Angels

Orks
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>>52157929
Loyalist: Iron Hands
Chaos: World Eaters
Xeno: Necrons
Imperial: Death Korps of Krieg
Character: Ahzek Ahriman
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>>52157929
Ultramarines
Iron Warriors
Tyranids
Stormtroopers
Sgt. Bastonne

>Orks or Nids
Orks. Nids have been absolutely gutted.
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>>52156456
>overcosted units
Why are we having a thread about the riptide?
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>>52157929
>Iron Hands

>Word Bearers

>Eldar

>Imperial Guard

>Colonel-Commissar Ibram Gaunt

>Orks
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>>52157929
Black Templars
World Eaters
Orks
The regiment from my Only War campaign
Kharn
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>>52157943
ITZ WAAAGH!!! YA GIT!
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>>52157988

For much the same reason that I hate Necrons and Chaos because fans of all three love to go on about how they will "win" and no other faction can possibly beat them. Admittedly Chaos is the worst about it, but I've met some pretty annoying Nid players in my time. I want a setting where everyone has a chance and is on even footing because that keeps things interesting. I don't want clear "winners" or power level wankery. So I hate Nids Necrons and Chaos. At least fluff wise. I have respect for the guys who play Nids, and I like gaming with them as long as it ain't a flying circus. Crons I just hate period. Not much fun to play against, not any fun in lore. I like the guy who plays them at my local store, but damn do I hate his army. As for Chaos...well I can't say I hate all of them as I finally met a decent human being who plays them, but the vast majority can go fuck themselves.
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>>52157929
Ultramarines
World Eaters
Nids
Assassins
Commissar Yarrick
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>>52156832
Sick of Imperial faggotry. You get a unit that gives you what you pay for instead of being balls out overpowered and it makes you cry. I hope super duper marines are true and you have to rebase all your marine models you faggot shit.
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>>52157929

Blood Angels
Emperor's Children
Eldar Corsairs
Admech
Malcador the Sigillite

Nids
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>>52158106
I have to agree about the reeeeee my side will win because the swarm. I would like some better rules so I don't have to just play skyblight.
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>>52158137
>I hope super duper marines are true and you have to rebase all your marine models you faggot shit.

Why would a new unit force him to rebase his marines?
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>>52158106
Who the fuck hates Necrons? They have been turned into neutral Tomb Kangz in Space instead of evil Vampire Cunts in Space.

You should hate Orks instead for being meme-spouting fucks who already won, because they love war.
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>>52157929
Salamanders
Iron warriors
Orks
none of them used a sufficient mix of armor and light infantry for my taste. I guess the Cadians or Armageddon Legions.
Orks, orks, orks, orks orks! (Duh Nunna nunna nunna!)
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>>52158173
>meme-spouting fucks

Anon, what the fuck are you doing, holy shit
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>>52158106
I think it's fairer to say you hate the people who pick their faction based on its significance in the supposed fate of the universe. I dunno, I've met a hell of a lot of cool players from all three armies, and plenty of assholes from the rest. There's no real trend that I've seen. Except that Orks players are the most fun to play with because they're just there to 'ave a gud time and WAAAAAAAAAAGH it up.
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>>52157485
>they use the same rules
My boy, you're denying yourself the wonder that is Crimson Fists rules by saying that.
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>>52158182
I recommend the Scion guys for light infrantry army. Are they called Astra Temptius or something?
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>>52158173
>hating the faction that encourages the most kitbashing

Damn shame.
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>>52157901
>>52157914
Any other opinions? The power armor is free so I don't see why not to take it.>>52157916
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>>52158106
Well, old man necron isn't really relevant in fluff now, but "When we finally all wake up and get our gear running, we're gonna tear you all a new one" does more for me than "*Teleports behind you* *Unsheathes Just as planned* *Ultrasupermegamurderdaemon of doom kills you all* *You already lost, Chaos absolutely cannot lose and is universal and basically your a faget*"
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>>52157929
Raptors
DG
Orks
Mordians
Nazdreg

Orsk
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>>52158173
I don't like Tomb Kings or new Necrons. I did like the C'tan before they rebooted them but I have no interest in any Necron that isn't Trazyn.
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>>52158106
>tfw play Chaos
>actually really dislike the whole WE WILL WIN BY DESTROYING REALITY schtick
>prefer the idea of CSM fighting the long war even though they know they won't destroy the Imperium because they're astartes and just enjoy fighting niggas
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>>52158173

>Likes Necrons
>Hates Orks

What's wrong? Jealous Orks have their own identity while Necrons fail to establish their own?
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>>52158173
>meme-spouting fucks
Like you?
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>>52157706
Only the one named dude survived Cadia.

Some assholes will tell you that not all the Black Templars were at Cadia, but I mean what the fuck do they know about it. There's no proof that a bunch of Black Templars were being lazy shits somewhere else.
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>>52158253
That was one Crusade.

And something like 50 other guys survived but sacrificed themselves to let the others get away from Chaos forces for a while more.
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>>52158200

Well yeah, there are good people who play all three, just like there are right cunts who play the armies I like as well. People will be people, and you get good ones and bad ones, it's just the way of things.

That being said I don't get the same "We're invincible and we're gonna win" wankery from other factions. I mean yeah I have to hear about Tau moral and technological superiority, and how the Eldar are so much smarter and powerful, or how the Imperium is just so much bigger than all of them, or how the Orks already won cause they just want a fight, but none of these are as irritating to me as the fan wank I get off of Crons Nids and Chaos. That's just me though, and it doesn't mean I can't get along with people who play those armies. I do, as long as they don't go turbo sperg on me.
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>>52158253
BT are constantly on multiple crusades and that's their excuse for not being normal chapter size. That's been their thing forever
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>>52158232
>he doesn't like tomb kangz
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>>52157929
>Favorite Space Marine Chapter
Do Deathwatch count? I like them because they're like a reality show combined with a spec ops team. Outside of that probably my favorite is Imperial Fists or Lamenters, can't decide.

>Favorite Chaos SM Chapter
Emperor's Children or Night Lords.

>Favorite Xeno Army
Dark Eldar because that's what I play

>Favorite Imperial Army
Space Marines

>Favorite character
Malcador, or if we're only counting living characters... Malcador

>Orks or Nids
Orks.
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>>52158232
>liking vampire cunts in space
>liking "durr evil super aliens are better than everyone else and the chaos gods"
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>>52157962
the "...GGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH" is the ork drowning in his own blood after a space marine stabbed him in the throat at I4
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>>52156456

>Overcosted Units

Are TL chosen still too expensive with free VotLW? Having 5 special weapons in a squad seems decent enough, even if they don't get cheaper combi.
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>>52158237

See you are the sort of Chaos player I don't mind. Looks like i've found two decent human beings who play them now.
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>>52158270
>>52158277
Like these assholes using conjecture to pretend like their My Pretty Chapter isn't dead.
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>necrons, chaos, and nids arguably all can completely fuck the setting for different reasons
>Necronfags pretty low-key about their wanking
>Bugfuckers pretty out there but modest in the "everything's gotta go this exact way for nids to really win"
>Chaosfags interject every conversation with how great their faction is and how they're gonna fuck everyone etc etc
Fucking chaosfags
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>>52158297
>tfw no deathwatch show in the style of dog the bounty hunter
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>>52158165
Because marines will probably be changed to MCs and have to go on big bases.
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>>52158332
The problem with this is that chaos are the ones writing the lore. They flat out said chaos is a greater threat than everyone else.
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Ok I need answers here:

Yvraine or Genevieve, which one is best girl?
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>>52158352
But wouldn't only mega marines be MCs with regular marines staying the same?
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>>52158311
>not liking vampires
>not liking lovecraft in space
I don't see why chaos need to be "durr we're stronger than everything else in existence." Having something on the same level as them is fine
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>>52157929
>Favorite Space Marine Chapter
Raven Guard
>Favorite Chaos SM Chapter
Night Lords
>Favorite Xeno Army
Orks
>Favorite Imperial Army
Sisters
>Favorite character
Talos
>Orks or Nids
Orks, though I love subterranean nids

>>52158237

That's how I see my CSM, too.
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>>52158332

>Necronfags pretty low-key about their wanking
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Space marines noob here, redpill me on Sternguard Veterans versus Honor Guard versus Command Squad.
Should I buy them and if so what wargear isn't a noob trap?
Right now I use (own) a Captain on bike with two tactical squads w/rhinos and a bike squad.
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>>52157929
Ultramarines
Word Bearers
I dunno, Tyranids
Skitarii
Lorgar
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>>52158362
No, I have reliable information that marines are being completely replaced and the only way to make old marines legal is to use new bases.
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>>52158277
REEEEEEEEEEEEE THATS FALSE

THERE IS NO CRUSADE LOOPHOLE THE BT JUST IGNORE THE CODEX
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>>52157929
Smurfs
Thousand Sons
Genestealer Cults
Space Marines
Magnus

Don't make me fucking choose, probably Orks but I play Nids so
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>>52158403
reminder that 25mm bases are still legal and this bait is low tier
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>>52158419
Well, now they ignore all stimulus.
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>>52157929
Favorite Space Marine Chapter: Blood Angels - because they go fast.
Favorite Chaos SM: Alpha Legion - Because they can count as Blood Angels.
Favorite Xeno: Dark Eldar -Because I paint/play them.
Favorite Imperial: Death Cult Assassins...maybe SoB.

Orks -especially the red ones since they go faster than the red marines and almost as fast as the spikee ladz.
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>>52158403
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>roll the rng dice to determine if I collect imperial armies, xenos, aeldari or chaos
>aeldari

Fuck. Redpill me on why Eldars/DEldars/Juggalos are cool.
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" While an Independent Character is part of a unit, he counts as part of the unit for all rules purposes, though he still follows the rules for characters. "

Infiltrate: " Units that contain at least one model with this special rule are deployed last, after all other units (friend and foe) have been deployed. "

" Master of Ambush: Your Warlord and three non-vehicle units of your choice have the Infiltrate special rule. "

So combining an IC with a unit and using Master of Ambush, I should be able to give the entire unit Infiltrate, no? Likewise, if I combine my Warlord with a unit, that entire unit should get Infiltrate, yes? I should also be able to Infiltrate Monstrous Creatures, right?

New to this stuff so bear with the stupid questions
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>>52158463
they aren't
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>>52158377
Lower key than the others
But when they wank they wank in full force
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>>52158392
You buy sternguard for their bolters and that's it. Maybe put 2-3 combi weapons as a just in case sort of thing, but don't be that idiot that listens to 1d4chan and equip them with heavy flamers or whatever, you're paying serious points for those bolters, you'd be an idiot to pay MORE points to throw them away. Keep the unit cheap, a five man squad with two combi weapons, or a ten men squad split into two combat squads. Pods are a good delivery for them since you're paying too much of a premium to have them spend 1-2 turns just driving towards the enemy. Basically point and shoot, nothing else to say, sternguard will never blow your mind, but at the same time they will always perform to expectations, and can engage different types of targets with ease. A reliable albeit lackluster unit that should be used to support your main force. Just like in the fluff really.
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>>52158277
They have since retconed them to be a compliant chapter
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>>52158421
Beyond low tier when we know measuring is done from the model and not the base.
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>>52158173
>likes necrons
>hates orks
C'tan pls go
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>>52158463
Cheese/Drugs/Giggles
In that order
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>>52158482
Who don't have any problem with psykers and only don't have any of their own because reasons.
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>>52158479
Ok thanks for this premium info

Second question in general should I be paying points for more armor and saves for my guys? For instance storm shields and artifacer armor?
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>>52158473

>Lower key than the others

They're really not though. Need I invoke the name of the most prolific shitposter on this board?Chaosfags are pretty secure about their canon status as "the greatest threat". They don't need to wank. Cronfags due to their status as mid boss sideshow are much more inscure and will create thread after thread of wank and go out of their way to bait.
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>>52158421
>>52158459
All marines are going to have to be based on 50mm bases starting from 8E
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>>52158544
But the most prolific shitposter recently has been non stop chaos wanking
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Can anyone who has read Gather Storm 3 confirm or deny the death of Abaddon?

Is a PDF (read as not a filthy epub) version of Gather Storm 3 in the OP mega yet? If not is there a link to one?

Many thanks.
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>no Evil Sunz Codex
>no Kroot Codex
>no C'tan Codex and they are pissed off and release their super female necron lords to combat
>no Lictor Codex
>no Iron Warriors Codex

why fucking live
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>>52158554
Not all marines, Terminators will have 75mm bases
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>>52158585
He doesn't die.

He's not even in it.
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>>52158585
He's not dead, but probably will be soon, to return with a daemon prince model.
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>>52158561
I mean you'd wank your robo-slongs if you were the best.

:^)

But back on topic I was disappointed with Chaos' "win" condition of Warhammer Fantasy. (Destroying the planet).

I guess for me it was most I played Chaos in the Old World before WHFB, and you auto lost if you corrupted the world too much)
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>>52158561

He is literally named after his cron wank. That's his bread and butter. Most recently Nidwank ruined a thread. There was a nidfag a day or two ago who refused to acknowledge the fluff that outright stated Chaos was more dangerous than nids. He shat up the entire thread and flat out refused to concede even when multiple people were posting refuting evidence.
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Well that's good to hear and then bad to hear.

Thanks again.
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>>52158554
>All marines are going to have to be based on 50mm bases starting from 8E
>>52158596
>Not all marines, Terminators will have 75mm bases

You're both wrong since you both failed to notice that the base sizes in the training ppt were actually given in Inches, not mm.
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>>52158620
My money's on status quo, at the same time as the Guilliman - Cypher - GK nigga box set came out an Abby - Morto - Vect rumour came out.
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>>52158585
son I'm about to save you 3 hours of search, it is on the third link under 40k supp
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>>52158591
Do you want each codex to just be a single dataslate? But it sounds that way.
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>>52158629
Carnac sighted.
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Lamenters, love that tragic backstory of bad luck

Thousand Sons, love that tragic backstory of hubris

Orks, cuz their super fun! I esp loved them in Space Marine

Sisters of Battle - I don't enjoy any, but at least sisters have women models

Ahriman, cannot stop loving the tragedy

Orks, Nids are cool but I just can't get that same "my guys" feels off them
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>>52157929
imperial fists
thousand sons
orks
armageddon steel legion guard
ollanius pius (minus any of that "perpetual" hogshit)

WOT DO YA THINK, YA GIT! WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
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>>52158637
>what is trole
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>>52157423
8/10 would crusade with
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>>52158646
It'd be hella weird if the Chaos triumvirate, if there is one, didn't have Abaddon as the centerpiece. He needs to be da biggest and da baddest.
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>>52158655

Funny, that's the kind of post that ruined that thread. Are you the retarded nid guy that got BTFO and started calling everyone carnac?
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>>52158652
>single dataslate
LAME
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>>52158544
>Chaosfags don't need to wank
Then why do they fucking destroy entire threads by wanking?
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>>52158629
>agreeing with Carnac

You are cancer.
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>>52158637
>leaked pic from the upcoming WD
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>>52158392

>Sternguard

10/10 kit for conversions. I kitbashed 5 captains from the sternguard set mainly.

They're ok and can take a heavy flamer, but 5 is too little and 10 gets too expensive. Or you can get two or three 5 man squads. Combi weapons are a meme and a waste of points. Use a special weapon if you so need it, but that's pointless because of the command squad which I'll get to later.

Sternguards are just good tacticals

>Honour Guard

Very limited and not worth it unless you're running a kitted out chapter master, as an escort, on a Land Raider or some other waste of points. NEVER take it on small sub-2000 point games.

>Command squad

The absolute best with the current meta, but you have to powergame and fuck the lore. Dont take a Company Champion, Standard Bearer or Apothecary. The Command Squad is the 5 man special weapons squad. Equip all 5 with grav guns, meltaguns, plasma or flamers in a drop pod and wreck the enemy.

Also you havent touched on Vanguard veterans, which are a creat CC choice or an escort for your Captain. They get the cheapest thunder hammers and lightning claws.
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>>52158683
No, I'm just shitposting. Because complaining about other posters' opinions is what shits up these threads, and you bringing them up now and attempting to bait nid players is pretty Carnac-esque.
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>>52158647
Not him but THANK YOU
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>>52158683
>>52158629
Hey look, it's the most prolific shitposter of recent times I just mentioned.
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>>52158647
BASED
Thanks a million
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>>52158696
In response to other people's wanking.
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>>52158683
There were multiple posters on each side
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>>52158697

>Being dumb enough to respond to carnac
>Being dumb enough to bring his name up
>Then proceeding to demonstrably lose to him

The truest shame.
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>>52158696
Why does everyone else have to destroy threads by bitching about how much we wank despite the complete absence of chaos players wanking?
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>>52158699
For some reason I want to make a conversion now...just turn a pie tin upside down.
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>>52158710
carnac is not recent.
The guy is old like years old
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>>52158672
trolle a shit

Haribo is where its at
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>>52158699
Looks like a conversion to me
I see some green stuff below the flock on the left
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>>52157929
Favorite Space Marine Chapter: Exorcists
Favorite Chaos SM Chapter: Black Legion
Favorite Xeno Army: Genestealer Cults
Favorite Imperial Army: Cadians
Favorite character: Abaddon the Despoiler Warmaster of Chaos Undivided

Orks or Nids: Nids.
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What would you do in my position?

>Start 40k during 5th, play Thousand Sons
>Convert chaos termies with egyptian masks and shoulderpads
>Beloved models
>New TS come out, badly want them but cannot excuse more termies
>Can just not buy them at all or strip them and reconvert them back to a more regular chaos legion, like Iron Warriors
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>>52158734
I just meant he's started been annoying again recently (like the last few days).
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>>52158722
>Nidfags
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>>52158696

Last time it wasn't the chaosfags that brought it up. Some guy said he hoped the Blood Angels event had them fight Khabbanda instead of nids cuz he thought nids are boring. Then some retard accused him of being Carnac and started wanking about how nids are more powerful and important. Then people pointed out the rulebook fluff and laughed at him while he went into full damage control and started using the C word.

I'm not sure it even counts as Chaos wank when it's just a fact they are and always have been the big bad of the setting, but that gets some people riled up apparently.
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>>52158591
What codex do you want, /40kg/?
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>>52158700
Is the Terminator command squad actually a command squad or is it just marketing? Can command squads get terminator armor?
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>>52158585
>>52158620
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>>52158774
>he's posting it again
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>>52158774
Where are the proofs?
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>>52158702

>YOU MUST BE CARNAC

This kills the thread. That's another thread ruined by the Carnac without him even being here. At this point he does less damage than the people he triggers.
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>>52157077
>Unless you were running him alone. In which case, don't.

Is it that bad?

I planned on trading the terminator captain of the start collecting box for the librarian.

I dont really see how I could make minor changes to make the hq fit anywhere, I'd have to rearrange the whole list
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>>52158787

I think they can, there's just no models to represent it, save for Dark Angels with the Deathwing.

I'm not sure if it's represented in the rules though.

But in the lore there's 100% chance there is a command squad for the first company, and maybe with terminator armor.
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something I'm not clear on, but were there any Wolven on Cadia during its fall?
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>>52158809
This what happens when people assign identities in anoymous boards. People get paranoid.
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>>52158392

I would add a predator or a dreadnought on a drop pod or something that shoots if I were you. Or a vindicator.
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>>52158854
Yeah. There were.
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>>52158854
Yes, they were. They all died though.
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>>52158620

>ADB writes a massive scrieve about how Abaddon is his own man and the gods can't play him; community and fellow BL authors praise it
>/tg/ is expecting him to be made into a daemon prince

Why do you guys have a hard time accepting ADB's words?
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>>52157929
>Favorite Space Marine Chapter
Blood Angels, but mostly because I like the face helmets.
>Favorite Chaos SM Chapter
Anything Khorne related is neat.
>Favorite Xeno Army
Nids.
>Favorite Imperial Army
Guard.
>Favorite character
Straken.

>Orks or Nids
Nids.
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>>52158756
Rephrase your dilemma.

Sounds like you have pimped out TS Terminators. Yes a new kit came out, but those are Scarab Occult. TS still have regular Terminators.

Your pimped ones can be just those. Or hell if they're as pimped and converted as you said, just do a Count As. I'd allow.

>Not that it matters as you'll ever play me.
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>>52158785
Sisters of Battle. Give them a real codex.
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>>52157929
Blood Angels
Thousand Sons
Orks
Imperial Guard
Dante

Orks of course
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>>52158883
Because you can be your own man, but if becoming the demons is your only way to survive a fatal encounter you're probably going to take that choice. I don't see how else the 13th Black Crusade can be stopped without Abaddon getting capped at Terra before we go back to the status quo.
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>>52158591
>super female necron lords
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>>52158700
Splashing a couple of points on Sternguard combiweapons is fine, as long as you don't equip the entire squad with them. Heavy flamer is a silly choice though, unless maybe you're salamanders, sternguard should be used for their special issue ammo only, taking away their bolters defies the point of a the unit.
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>>52158774
Not him but I'm the one who called the guy carnac because i like shitposting about carnac, and that isn't what happened
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>>52156495
It's a nice list, but you might find it a bit inflexible. I would switch your captain for a Lvl 2 librarian (cheap HQ, gives you psyker options), I would consider a drop pod for your dreadnought (needs to be close for the assault cannon and flamer), I wouldn't bother with a command squad with grav guns (just attach HQ to one of your tacticals), I would consider some Devs with missiles (flexible, can bust armour + hordes), I'm not a big fan of speeders, but if you have to have one then make sure it is a heavy bolter/special weapon combo (again, versatility is your friend, and I would probably go with Melta) and, as has already been said, get your other tactical squad in a rhino.

Hope that helps, but remember, all armies will have weak points and strengths. Just play a few games and see what works. If you are on a budget, use makeshift replicas (or even bits of paper with the name of the model on them) and see how they play on the board.
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>>52158909

>taking away their bolters defies the point of a the unit.

I play as proxy Blood Angels to run heavy flamers, but Sternguard are just good tacticals at premium prices.

5 marines dont do shit anyways, bolters or not. They always lose the game of numbers.

Vanguard vets are the superior choice anyways.
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>>52158916
Who do you think would want to revise the events of that thread anon... could it be...
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>>52158752
Sick/7 Typhus is not really worth it without his zombies
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>>52158904
Who says Chaos has to be stopped at Terra? If killing the Emperor just turns him into a warp entity and Squidprorow has taken effective command of the Imperium what's to say Chaos can't take Terra and make that the new status quo?
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>>52158940
Chaosfags so they can justify their wank as "its just in retaliation"
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>>52158883
>Abby makes it to Terra
>Bobby G goes bane, breaks Abby's back and proceeds to wreck the 13th Crusade with his NuMarines
>Abby barely escapes. But due to complications (Rowboat tears both of Abaddon's arms off, because GW gives into the memes) Abaddon is left on the edge of death. Even a Dreadnought won't save him.
>Right before he dies, Abaddon hears four voices whisper to him "do you want to make a deal?"
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>>52158699
I like how it promotes realistic intervals between troops instead of packing everyone shoulder to shoulder like it's 1815.
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>>52158933

It was updated here

>>52156690

I'm basing it on the Start Collecting box, and I do feel like Im short on numbers and on firepower.
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>>52158734
newfag here, who is carnac? isn't that a book setting?
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>>52157929
SM Chapter
>Crimson Fists
CSM
>Alphas for fluff
Xeno
>Tau
Imperial Army
>Guard
Character
>Pedro Kantor, Lord Kroak

orkz
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>>52157929
>Imperial Fists
>Thousand Sons
>Necrons
>Catachans
>Sigismund
>Orks
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>>52158629
I was in that thread, there were like three nidfags and it was Carnac chaoswanking that ruined the thread, not them.
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What do you lads think of this as an opening buy for a Deathwatch list?

http://www.firestormgames.co.uk/deathwatch-watchblade-taskforce
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>>52159021
A popular funposter
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>>52159056
I miss him being a namefag. Much easier to ignore.
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>>52159049
What? I was in the thread too and it was nidfag autism that ruined it. They didn't acknowledge that they lost the argument which they started by the way.
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>>52159049

Any deluded nidfag that thinks nids are the central villains of 40k will never fail to shit up a thread with their delusions
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>>52158137
If all marines needed terminator bases I might actually play marines
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>>52158774
>pretending like Carnac wasn't actually in the thread
Are you new or are you him? He was posting in his super easy to spot signature style with the same exact reused screenshots of cropped rulebook text and everything.
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>>52159056
Ah, joy. so i should probably retract my question before the inquisition accuses me of trolling. Gotcha
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Opinion on this?
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>>52158872
>>52158879
wait doesn't that means they are all dead then.
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>>52159090
If it was him or not is irrelevant. Who was right in the argument and which side was in the wrong?
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>>52158885
I wouldn't say "pimped out", I just shaved off a bunch of hooks and spikes, gave them egyptian deathmasks and a custom shoulderpad to denote them as Scarab Occult (funnily enough I actually called them that before the book or models came out).

I'm in love with the new SO kit and I'd kill to have them, but I'd want to field them and there's no way I am fielding two units of them (they're expensive) or side-by-side (clash immensely).
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>>52159111
No, it was just one group of them. There are more wulfen out there, not to mention the new ones being created from the Space Wolves.
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>>52157929
Wolves
Death Guard
Dark Eldar
Wolves
Eisenhorn

Orks
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>>52159123
And yes I already count my termies as SO.
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>>52159108
bit lacking, but does the job
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>>52159112
No-one was in the right because both were pointlessly shitting up the thread with opinionwank shitposting.
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>>52159141
>opinionwank
What the fluff says is not an opinion. From the way you post and avoided the question I guess you were one of those nid shitposters.
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>>52156690
At the moment, you have a dreadnought fitted with a long-range lascannon, and a short-range flamer. Is it going to stand at the back and shoot, or is it charging in? If you want a gun platform, take lascannon and missile launcher, if you want assault highjinks, assault cannon and flamer, in a drop pod.

It's already been mentioned elsewhere, but you need to make a decision on your librarian. At higher points, I might consider taking the terminator armour and attaching him to a squad of terms, but at lower points you are better off ditching the terminator armour (makes him cheaper) and attaching to a unit of goons - that way he can travel in the razorback.

If you have enough points (maybe ditch command squad as well), I would recommend a squad of devs with missiles, just to give you some ranged flexibility.

I'm also unsure about the storm-bolter on the predator - is it going to be getting that close to units? I'd think about dropping it for a few more points and keeping it out of range of anything nasty.
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>>52159108
So stupid and simple it kinda works
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>>52158700
So are "Vanguard Veterans" the way to go?
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>>52159165
>calls both sides faggots
>apparently on one of those sides
Carnac logic wew
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>>52159108
The worst codex but very fluffy.
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>>52159108
>IG but without meme tanks

What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>52159077
>>52159083
Ladies and gentlemen who are new to the board, here, for your educational enrichment, is an example of Carnac and his signature two-devices samefag shitposting.

If you see someone saying autistic shit like
>They didn't acknowledge that they lost the argument which they started by the way.
it's probably Carnac. Another favorite of his is >not an argument
repeated over and over whenever you shut him down and he doesn't know how to respond, because he is autistically incapable of accepting he's ever wrong.

If you see them using the word "deluded" way too much in the context of nid players, it's almost definitely Carnac.

And if you see them posting in response to something twice back-to-back, one time not using capitalization because they think it actually tricks people into thinking it's two different posters, it is most certainly that faggot Carnac.

I am only giving these posts (You)s to teach you newfags what to look for, do not actually ever take the bait or respond to them directly. That is how generals are destroyed.

This has been your lesson on faggotry for the day.
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>>52156456

How do GSC work in Kill Team?
Do I get to Ambush with every model? Because that seems silly.

Similarly, with KDK will I get Blood for every Cultist who dies?
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>>52159199
You are attempting to distance yourself from your side while attacking the other side. I know your shitposter tactics
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>>52157929

Dark Angels

Thousand Sons

Dark Eldar

I assume you want other than Astartes? Would have to be Krieg for aesthetic only.

Ahriman.
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>>52159224
These carnac posters are getting out of hand with their paranoia.
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>>52159224

>This entire post
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>>52159224
And as a follow-up to this question, here's a pop quiz.

Which of the following spergposts is Carnac?
Is it:
A, >>52159112
B, >>52159165
Or C, both of the above?

If you picked C, congratulations, you have graduated from the "spotting Asperger's in action" course.
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>>52159108

Such a wasted opportunity that it still hurts.

> No swap for S3/AP5/Ass3 Hellguns
> No swap for Shotguns with variable rounds
> No ghost recon sniper teams
> No ultragrit stormtroopers
> No Infiltrating operators
> No Vendettas or Vultures for maximum insertion
> No dodgy Imperial black ops Afriel Strain
> No Tauros dune buggies
> No HQ-level Legate packing special weapons

It spams AP3 and Deep Strikes. It is a meme army.
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>>52159108
Discount Space Marines.
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>>52159286
Yeah that's probably what Carnac looks like desu
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>>52159290
I pick none. I also choose D, you are an autistic shitposter.
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>>52101100
Here, the ACTUAL post where the thread fell apart to chaoswank
Also just stop replying you cunts
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>>52159278
>>52159286
Could these be carnac as well? Am I learning PSA-anon?
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>>52159330

chaos is the greatest threat though
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>>52158977
>do you wanna... make a deal?
Played it in Bob Dylan's voice.
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>>52159340
Seconded the GW says so.
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>>52159123
you could just like, make them cuz you like them
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Are Wulfen any good?
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>>52159368
Yeah, OP good.
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>>52159224
Does this count as a rule violation? It's off-topic and disruptive.
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>>52157929
>Favorite Space Marine Chapter
neither
>Favorite Chaos SM Chapter
neither
>Favorite Xeno Army
neither
>Favorite Imperial Army
Imperial Guard
>Favorite character
Ibram Gaunt
>Orks or Nids
THE GLORIOUS IMPERIAL GUARD!!!
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>>52159340
That's neither here nor there though, we're talking about chaoswank
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>>52159333
The first one I rate "Highly Likely".

The second one is questionable, it doesn't seem his style. When in doubt, don't assume it is, because that gives ammunition to the "you're just paranoid" argument, making it easier for Carnac to shit up the threads incognito.

However, because your post was blessed with the trips of truth, we can say this time that yes it was probably also Carnac.
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>>52159385
How should I equip them?
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>>52159406

but if you (correctly) declare chaos the greatest threat you are accused of 'chaoswank' though
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>>52159224
quality shitpost
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>>52159406
What is Chaoswank? Define it.
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>>52159395
This is a good man.
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>>52159454
No fuck off.

Everyone stop responding to posts trying to bait a powerlevel argument.

Change of topic, what's everyone's favorite Formation in terms of adding flavour to an army's crunch and fitting with the fluff?
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>>52159497

there is no argument, chaos is the biggest bad this cannot be argued
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>>52159497
You mentioned it and I am curious. This thread is beyond saving so what is Chaoswank?
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>>52158916

>because i like shitposting about carnac

At last, the truth.
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U jelly
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>>52159506
That's nice, why don't you go jack off in the corner while you think about it so the rest of us can talk about something else?
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>>52159526

>pubes on the bed

not really
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>>52159497
I like all of the Mechanicus/Skitarii formations, (except that disgusting one from that one WD). Small fluffy buffs to individual units when taken in larger numbers are nice, and the ability to add knights and skitarii to the cult is also quite pleasant. I do wish that they were one fucking book, though.
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>>52159512
I didn't mention it, I'm not the guy the other post was responding to.
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>>52159368
YES.
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>>52159526
Nope. The Everchosen limited edition blows this out of the water. One of my best purchases.
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>>52159549
Then don't respond to me next time, you busybody.
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>>52159556

>Age of Shitmar
>One of my best purchases
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>>52159526
See >>52159553
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>>52157929

Deathwatch
Plague Marines
Orks
Inquisition cuz space monkeys
Cypher's pretty rad

orks
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>>52159556
>"everchosen"
>google it
>its sigmar
kek
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>>52159565
>>52159556
>>52159580
here we fucking go
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>>52159049

It was entirely due to nidfag getting angry about a guy finding them boring. It all started because one guy said he hoped BA would fight daemons instead of nids. Nidfag got upset and called him carnac because of that alone and has even admitted in this thread he just likes shitposting. Nidfags attempted to assert superiority before evidence quickly shut them down and denial and Carnac posting ensued.
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Hi all, my 1850 for casual games how does it look? My friend is bringing orks and I don't want to get embarassed

Wolfkin
Fenrisian Wolves x40

Wyrdstorm Brotherhood
Rune Priest [Bike, Mastery Level 2, Relic: Helm of Durfast]
Rune Priest [Mastery Level 1]
Rune Priest [Mastery Level 1]
Rune Priest [Mastery Level 1]

Lion's Blade Strike Force

The Inner Circle [Azrael]

Battle Demi Company
Chaplain

Assault Squad, Flamer, Drop Pod

Devastator Squad, Razorback

Tactical Squad, Razorback

Tactical Squad, Razorback

Tactical Squad Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod


Battle Demi Company
Company Master

Assault Squad, 2x Flamer, Drop Pod

Devastator Squad, Razorback

Tactical Squad, Razorback

Tactical Squad, Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod

Tactical Squad, Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod

10th Company Support
Scout Squad
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>>52159526
CLEAN YOUR FUCKING BED
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>>52159542
I thought the other day that if they feel like having Canticles and Doctrina Imperatives on all the units is too powerful to combine them, which is why they don't have a singular Codex or decent combined Formation (outside of the clearly way too good WarConvo) maybe just have a rule that makes it so units with the Doctrina Imperatives special rule count as having Canticles for the purposes of counting up how many units in your army have Canticles, but they don't benefit from it. That way, you aren't gimping yourself with the parasitic Canticles mechanic by taking Skitarii.
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>>52159090

>Being so dense as to acknowledge him

Spotted the newfag.
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>>52159593

It's true, nids are boring
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>>52159497
Probably the Holy Requisitioner or Elimination Maniple. Fuck you, I want relics for one and "fuck you in general" for the other. Mechanicus doesn't mess about.

Speaking of that, IA14 WHENNNNNN?! I was promised bloops by this month, dammit.
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>>52159565
Have you seen how fabulous the box is? And all the art pieces? The poster? the special dice and coins? The battletome itself that looks like a Chaos tome? And more besides.

40K limited editions are not nearly as lovingly made as that limited edition. The 7th ed Necron limited edition was a disgrace.
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>>52159605
I think that would be a solid result. Imperatives are really cool to play around with and encourage a balanced list for your Skitters, and I hope they don't get axed in the eventual combined AdMech dex.
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>>52159634
True holy shit where is my pain-train. The instant that book drops I'll have to put my GSC aside and dust off the Skitarii again.
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>>52159506
This is chaoswank, there was no argument in the first place because it's undisputed fact that chaos is the biggest threat, posting about how big of a threat they are makes you look like a huge faggot who can't get over how strong his side is.
It's like being American and being upset when someone says you lost at Vietnam.
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>>52159596
>Space wolves
>Dark angels
I duno.
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>tfw I genuinely couldn't give a fuck what happens in 40K if it has nothing to do with Orks.
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>>52159673
>ork players aren't meme-spouting redditors
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>>52159665
Again. it's in response to tyranidfags claiming otherwise and trying to make it seem that there is an debate when there is none.

Chaos is the greatest threat period. GW says so. Deal with it, bugboy.
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>>52159665

It really only came up because of nid wank.
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>>52159673
Ironjawz are awesome, I had a momentary daydream about a 40K Orks army but then i realized they are expensive and orks suck.
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>>52159108
Scions are overcosted and fragile relative to the damage they can inflict before getting bolter'd to death.

Five units does not warrant a codex, should have been a supplement.

Scions should be Ld 8 base, and they need to fix fucking order range in general, but doubly so for Tempestus because Scions need them in order to achieve anything, yet attempting to deepstrike multiple units within 12" of each other is retarded, so you pay for orders you never get.

They should get their laspistol sidearms and CCW's back so they can hold up slightly better when they're inevitably charged.
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>>52159593
Blowing shit out of proportion but whatever
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>>52157871

>same statline as ghazghkull

Nah, the Custodian is Fearless.

>Be biggest, strongest Ork in the galaxy, leading untold trillions of Orks into battle, never shying from a fight
>Not Fearless
>LD9
>Same Strength as Warboss
>Same Toughness as Warboss
>Have Stikkbombs that mock me because I can never strike at initiative
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>>52159648
>check the battletome
>pure everchosen is shit with no zero your dude potential

Fuck Herohammer
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>>52159693
>>52159686

Is this Carnac?
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>>52159661
Triaros is fucking sexy, but I want the Macrocarid, because I want a command bus and if I'm buying a £90 tank it needs to be a little more awesome than the better Crassus, even if it is extremely sexy.
I want the Secutarii Axiarch for buffs and punching, and the Ursarax because I want to give them Hatred or WS7 and just REEEEE through stuff with S10 powerfists.
Also volkite Myrmidons, because CHOOM.
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>>52159697

Well, you're not including the entire thread of shit flinging that followed from that.
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>>52159366
But my autism tells me if I buy them I'd want to field them cause my focus of the hobby is the gaming aspect first and foremost. I'd just feel guilty I spent money on something I don't field and they're beautiful, they deserve to be fielded.
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>inb4 there's literally one person posting both sides of this fanwank, which I shall now dub fank
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>>52159709

>What are the Varanguard?
>What are the Gaunt Summoners?
>What are Everchosen's chosen warbands?

Dude....
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>>52159714

>Makes samefag accusations without checking timestamps
>Makes Carnac accusations despite the truth of those posts being verified within the thread

Is this a retard?
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>>52159738
It's like watching someone masturbate.
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>>52159745
LAME
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>>52159714
The first one maybe, the second one yes 100%.

He likes to samefag to give the impression it's not just one autist but that his opinion is a popular one, so when you see multiple posts saying the same thing in slightly different ways and capitalization and one of them is definitely him then you can usually assume they're both him.
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>>52157929
Space Wolves
World Eaters
Orks
Imperial Guard
Tuska

ORKS
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>>52159729
For posterity
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>>52159236
Kill team disables the blood tithe for KDK.
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>>52159787
>He likes to samefag

Oh lawd this guy. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a samefag. Stop shitting up the thread and check the timestamps.
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>>52159694
I've replaced all my Nobs with Orruk Brutes because they look fucking imposing.

I'll be buying some Orruk Brute Boar Riders soon to have as Nob warbikers.
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>>52159810
If I post from my phone on 4G, and my PC on home internet, I can jew the post limit too.
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>>52159769
>Varanguard
>lame

Take it back, cur!
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>>52159810
Yeah you're right, every time you show up and double-respond to shit with one post in all lowercase, and both of those "separate posters" eventually stop posting at the same time, it's just a coincidence. It can't be the same guy because timestamps, you're definitely not the sort of turbo-faggot that would resort to having two devices so you can samefag yourself more easily.

You are so lacking in self-awareness you actually think your asperger's speech patterns aren't instantly obvious to everyone in the threads.

You are so obsessed with winning arguments on the internet you are literally bringing up an old one from an archived thread to start the shitstorm all over again because you want everyone to think you're a big winner.

It is really fucking sad dude, get a life. We're trying to discuss 40k not your fucking shitpost drama. You are the most cancerous piece of shit on this board.
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what are the chances of scoring with an adeptus sororitas?
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>>52159731
you could just switch em out every other game, or run a squad using both of your models (they've been around 10k years they won't all look the same) it just doesn't make sense to me to deny youself something like that. Maybe get them for yourself for a bday or some special occasion so that you can justify it

Also posting my Skitarii/Scion list again, would appreciate any feedbacks
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>>52159726
I keep forgetting that even if we get rules to run Forge World Mechanicum stuff with Skitarii in 40k I still need to shell out Forge World prices for the models, fuuuuck
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new >>52159901
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>>52159791

>"Calls Tyranids and NPC race when they've done more to damage to the imperium in the last ten years than Chaos has done in the last 10,000

Your honour, let the records show Nidwank was initiated first and that subsequent Chaoswank was self defence. Records also show Chaosfags provided proofs of superiority whereas Nidfags resorted to Carnac-posting. This jury of neckbeards finds Nidfags... Guilty. Report to Commiseriat for sentencing.
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>>52159791
From what a remember Nids were just a set up for chaos daemons to enter the fight.

If BA are going down it's going to be to chaos after being softened up by Nids if anything, some literallywho bunch of nameless NPCs can't take down Baal alone, that would be a shit story.
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>>52159596
>barkstar
>casual

I feel sorry for whoever you're playing
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>>52159884
Your obsession with a single anon is what's pathetic. Not to mention the paranoia. Might as well change anonymous to Carnac and be done with it.
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>>52159906
Too early. We're only on page 5 and he'll just follow us to the new thread anyways.
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>>52159918
>some literallywho bunch of nameless NPCs can't take down [insert character, location, faction here] alone, that would be a shit story

The issue with tyranids in a nutshell.
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>>52159714
Who is Carnac?
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>>52159895
I need to think about it, cause it's really pretty much autism. I am obsessed with this vision of hegemony of my army. Having two different patterns of terminator armour in the same army just strikes me as garish and unacceptable despite it actually making sense as you said.

the extra retarded thing is that I'm planning on buying Magnus with little intention of fielding him and I'm ok with that. Maybe cause he's too big and expensive, I see him as a showpiece/painting challenge.
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>>52159937
Early enough that hopefully the shitposting will just continue in this thread for a while and give it time to die off. LIke so
>>52159965
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>>52159965
This guy is carnac >>52159884
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>>52159912
The initial post was implying superiority you meme
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>>52159981
I see, you seem like you really care about your army a lot. It's neat
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>>52160009
No that's the guy responding to Carnac.
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>>52160015

>Chaosfag makes no mention of powerlevel
>Nidfag brings up powerlevels

I'm gonna need to issue another citation for whorish lies, anon.
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>>52159912
>Nidwank was initiated first
>If not chaoswank i won't like the book
Okay
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>>52159953
The only way to fix it would be to insert more free thinking characters like the swarmlord, give the nids more free will and personality.

Basically the antithesis of everything they represent.
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>>52160062
That would ruin Nids
People don't seem to get the appeal
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>>52160062
Didn't the tyranid fanbase REEEEEEEEEEEEE when they made it so each swarm was independent from each other?
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>>52160032
It's carnac pretending to be not carnac.
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>>52160052

>preferring a faction is "wank"

No, wank is talking about how much stronger your faction is. Finding Nids dull as dishwater compared to daemons is not 'wank'.
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>>52159965
See >>52159224 for explanation on Carnac.

>>52159278
>>52159327
>>52159340
>>52159359
>>52159386
>>52159454
>>52159506
>>52159563
>>52159593
>>52159686
>>52159748
>>52159791
>>52159810
>>52159930
These are either all Carnac, or some of them are and others are another shitposter jumping in pretending to be Carnac for lulz
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>>52160062
Nids are fine for customisation because they have different colour schemes and focuses for each fleet. One focused on hordes, one focused on fliers,etc.

You don't need to make independent thinkers any further than normal hive tyrants or retcon swarmlord to not be part of hive mind.
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>>52160097
Shut the fuck up
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>>52160089
>People don't seem to get the appeal
The issue is that they are then extremely boring when put into context with the greater setting. There's this massive web of inter-personal conflicts between all the factions that arise from being at war with each other for 10,000 years.

Then there's tyranids.

They're a boring villain, like Necrons used to be.
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>>52157929
>dank Angels
>iron warriors
>tau
>Elysians
>Kharn
>Orks
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>>52160169
'Nids are cute. CUTE.
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>>52160114

>Lists a bunch of posts that are less than a minute within each other

Amazing how carnac seems to have multiple IPs that he is switching instantly between. Also, how his punctuation seems to disappear and appear abruptly. Also, how you can apparently identify him from 2-5 word posts.
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>>52160169
Speak for yourself,I find them interesting because of they're purity of purpose and action, also cosmic horror for me is better than any edgy spiky dude
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>>52160023
You have no idea, man.. it's quite frustrating oftentimes too though, I get frozen in place with these decisions and it takes me a long time to get anything done. In the end though, I am very satisfied with my choices.

I'll wait and see. I have a lot of work to finish on another army before I come back to "upgrade" my TS, two months or three for sure. Hoping to get a better perspective by then.
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>>52160169
Because, newsflash, they aren't a fucking villain. They aren't even CONTENDING to be a villain.
You don't call a tornado villainous because it razes cities, it's just doing what it naturally does and humans just happened to be in the way.
The appeal isn't "oh they're gonna destroy the setting huehue" but that they're a force of nature that can't be culled or reasoned with, you either destroy them or they destroy you.
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>>52159224
>And if you see them posting in response to something twice back-to-back, one time not using capitalization because they think it actually tricks people into thinking it's two different posters, it is most certainly that faggot Carnac.

>>52159866
>If I post from my phone on 4G, and my PC on home internet, I can jew the post limit too.

Are you really retarded enough to think you're tricking people? While the post you JUST made is in the same autistic speech pattern as a bunch of the ones that were highlighted? What is it like to have zero self-awareness?
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>>52160274
This guy has it right
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>>52160274

>you either destroy them or they destroy you.

Fascinating.
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>>52160277
This whole post is in response to >>52160222

Just so nobody can pretend to be confused like a bitch
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>>52160114
The screenshot is me though, the guy who namedropped carnac in the old thread
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>>52160274
What an incredibly interesting story that makes for.
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>>52159224
>If you see them using the word "deluded" way too much in the context of nid players, it's almost definitely Carnac.

No, that's just the most natural word to describe the kind of nidfag in other day's thread. The guy tried to argue the statement that Chaos is "the greatest threat" is ambiguous. Deluded seems like a fair word.
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>>52157929
Marines Malevolent
Night Lords
Deldar
Skitarii
Talos

Zerg
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>>52160274
A force of nature doesn't have malice or hate. The Tyranids have shown these traits before.
>>
Anti-Nid people have shit taste,and the "improvements" suggested just make them more human which is boring
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>>52160362
>keeps trying to bring things back to the old argument because he can't drop it
>doubles down on the use of the word deluded
Let me guess, you're gonna deny that you are Carnac?
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>>52160313

You're the most confused little bitch in here. You've tossed some of my posts along posts that don't even use capitalisation and are conveniently ignoring timestamps by jumping to the assumption that I'm dual wielding my fucking phone and computer. Listen to yourself. What part of that doesn't sound full on damage control desperation?
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>>52160380
And those are usually just derided as shitty writing ala BL not understanding them or the cruddexes
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>>52160361
Good thing they aren't the only thing that exists in the setting.
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>>52160381
>I want tyranids to be a mindless, faceless blob
>I want other factions' players to have something other than a tepid, disinterested feeling towards my faction as a threat

Pick one.
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>>52160361
Yes,let's make them into Tomb Kings in space as well!That will make for interesting stories now.. It's not like we don't already have factions with very human agendas,not at all
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>>52160361
Actually yes. It's the same idea behind lovecraft's works, hell there are even alien cults, gws writers are just shit at writing for nids and it's a damn shame.
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>>52160399

>keeps trying to bring things back to the old argument because he can't drop it

Oh irony, thy name is anon.
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>>52160402
>still using the arguments "hurrr capitalization and timestamps" to try and respond to the post directly calling him out on how those are not proof of anything
>starting to get mad now
Does it bother you that people can immediately tell who you are because you can't even talk like a normal human being without being an abrasive sperg?
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>>52160455

So anon, if there is demonstrable differences in punctuation between posts and discrepancies in timestamps how do you know.... we're not all Carnac. Every single one of us. Especially the ones that think you're a faggot
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>>52160431
The Japanese sure are tepid and disinterested in tsunamis
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I have read the rule and the CSM codex (sorta), how bad is this list for beginner games?
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>>52160411
Regardless of your disfavour for the sources, the Hivemind in the fluff have shown to be hateful and vindictive.

Only the oldcrons were a force of nature since they were beyond hate.
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>>52159886
Considering there's like 60,000 of them in the galaxy and they only fuck each other/chads, I'd say not very high
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>>52160411
This completely.
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>>52160537
I genuinely would like proofs, simply because I've never seen any mention of such before
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>>52160381
>Anti-Nid people have shit taste,and the "improvements" suggested just make them more human which is boring

>Tyranids
>interesting

>I love making people play a game where the setting is basically a bunch of handicapped old people trying to stop a trillion ravenous army ants using nothing but trowels and staplers.
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>>52160508
Which is more likely to occur when Japan gets hit by a tsunami?

a) All the citizens charge out with katanas and those stupid kamikaze headbands screaming A FAK A YOO TSUNHAMMMMMMI due to all the historical and personal grievances they as a nation have with tsunamis

b) All the citizens think "fuck not this shit again?"
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>>52160558
They're out there, I'm sure he'll post them. But none of them come from original nid writers and he'll continue to use the argument that contradictory fanfics published by GW have to be considered just as canon even if the writer clearly has no idea what the fuck they're doing.
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>>52160571
There's always 30k if you just want the chaos vs. imperium.
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>>52160558
I can. Though you would have to ask in the new thread. Since I don't like posting big chunks of text in a dying thread.
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>>52160577
Well it's not my fault that every race in the Galaxy to follows example a
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>>52160577
People like you ruined Necrons
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>>52159965
Carnac its Alpharius
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>>52160594
You could just copy-paste them again
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I don't really get the hate for 'nids lack of diversity in their goals.

Imho the fluff is already overloaded with agendas, secret agendas and counter agendas, they added a new race (Tau) and people bitch about their fluff being unnecessary.
Tyranids are more like some back water threat that slowly grows and applies more and more pressure with no obvious means of stopping it without desperate measures.

Tyranids can bring worlds into disarray and revolt, tyranids can create unlikely alliances and bitter betrayals. Tyranids can create unlikely heroes or condemn to legend the settled ones.

They are super easy to fluff and offer good opportunities for history development. Regardless if they are the biggest threat or not. Why not have them around?
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>>52160976
Also as a microbiologist I enjoy the pseudoscience behind them (as well as orks)
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>>52160976
Because some colossal faggot has been claiming for the last week that all nid players are WAAC fags that don't like the 40k lore or setting.

Yes. He is that retarded.
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>>52160976
There's nothing wrong with them being around, but the lack of personality just makes them a boring villain for a lot of people.
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>>52161041
They aren't a fucking villain.

They're a goddamn force of nature.
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>>52160511
not that bad

generally you waant to avoid a heavy weapon on the CSM squads as it forces them to stand still. It is usually a good idea to give them two of the same, i e 2 plasma or 2 meltaguns

if you have 5 pts spare meltabombs are a good idea.
your raptors could do with a power weapon to increase their damage output

there is a supplement traitor legions that will give boni for many things
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>>52161065
Been lurking the thread and pretty much agree with this.

Nids are that one pure force that threatens to eat every motherfucker in the setting that doesn't give two shits about any alliances, plans, magic bullshit or wheels within wheels. It will, if left unchecked, consume all and indirectly kill the Chaos Gods through starvation.

That's fucking interesting, because no matter hard Khorne kills, there will be more of them. No matter how many diseases Nurgle throws at the Hivemind, they will eventually adapt and incorporate such things into their own arsenal. They care not for the pleasures of Slaanesh and no matter how many plans Tzeentch creates, the Hivemind will fucking eat it.

Nids are 40ks ultimate wildcard.
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>>52160976
I don't really get the hate for Chaos's lack of diversity in their goals.

Imho the fluff is already overloaded with agendas, secret agendas and counter agendas, they added a new race (Tau) and people bitch about their fluff being unnecessary.
Chaos are more like some back water threat that slowly grows and applies more and more pressure with no obvious means of stopping it without desperate measures.

Chaos can bring worlds into disarray and revolt, Chaos can create unlikely alliances and bitter betrayals. Chaos can create unlikely heroes or condemn to legend the settled ones.

They are super easy to fluff and offer good opportunities for history development. Regardless if they are the biggest threat or not. Why not have them around?
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>>52160976
I don't really get the hate for Ork's lack of diversity in their goals.

Imho the fluff is already overloaded with agendas, secret agendas and counter agendas, they added a new race (Tau) and people bitch about their fluff being unnecessary.
Orks are more like some back water threat that slowly grows and applies more and more pressure with no obvious means of stopping it without desperate measures.

Orks can bring worlds into disarray and revolt, Orks can create unlikely alliances and bitter betrayals. Orks can create unlikely heroes or condemn to legend the settled ones.

They are super easy to fluff and offer good opportunities for history development. Regardless if they are the biggest threat or not. Why not have them around?
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>>52161259
Sorry man, doesn't really work with Chaos.
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>>52160976
I don't really get the hate for Necron's lack of diversity in their goals.

Imho the fluff is already overloaded with agendas, secret agendas and counter agendas, they added a new race (Tau) and people bitch about their fluff being unnecessary.
Necrons are more like some back water threat that slowly grows and applies more and more pressure with no obvious means of stopping it without desperate measures.

Necrons can bring worlds into disarray and revolt, Necrons can create unlikely alliances and bitter betrayals. Necrons can create unlikely heroes or condemn to legend the settled ones.

They are super easy to fluff and offer good opportunities for history development. Regardless if they are the biggest threat or not. Why not have them around?
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>>52161307
Neither with Necrons.

>>52161280
But Orks yeah, it works.
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>>52161280
But orks have all sorts of "human" like qualities that stop them from being the "unstoppable object", they have the agendas and stuff I was talking early on, it doesn't quite fit.
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>>52156777

That's the point of The Ten Thousand though, to guard the Emperor from his fuckups.
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>>52157929

Iron Hands
Iron Warriors
Orks
Imperial Guard
Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka

WAAAAGH!
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>>52160511

>Footslogging havocs and Plague Marines

>14 bolters

You gonna get raped by Grav and the D, son.

You can do better
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>>52158942
Is this better?
Played a lot of 40k but only friendly games, this is my 1st tournament
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