Warhammer 40,000 /40kg/

First for the Hive Mind

There's 3d where i can find nfos about recasters?

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>>52152344
Good lad.

WIP thread for painting advice and shit
>>52133721

RPG thread for pretending to be space marines >>52094331

>playing 40k
>having fun

Repostin because I didnt see the new thread. If my commander fires a tidewall railgun he cant buff his unit with ignore cover + reroll misses right?

So the grey knight adversary thingy can give me free ML1 in any situation or I'm missing something?

Because ML2 Celestine spawning demons sounds hilarious

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>>52152344
>>52152350


STOP

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>>52152365
REMOVE TAUFAG
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

MAKE COMMORRAGH GREAT AGAIN

>>52152423
>>52152426
>>52152417
It was specifically stated in the thread transition No memes.

>>52152417
Can't wait til this cunt gets the boot. All of his codexes are fucking bad.

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>>52152434

>No memes.

Where do you think we are?

>>52152454
Apparantly the cancer ward.

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>>52152434
HEAR THE DIRGE AND DESPAIR

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>>52152465

no need to be upset, Lad.

does anyone know whether AdMech will have at least one playable unit in DoW 3?

>>52152492
apart from the titans I mean

>>52152416
If both players agree on using them, yes.
But I don't think any GK player would want to gimp himself even more.

Allegiances

Imperium of Man: Imperial Guards, Imperial Knights, Space Marines, Admech, Skiitari, Sisters, Custodes, Grey Knights, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Black Templar, Legion of the Damned, Ordo Assassins, Inquisitors, Deathwatch *NEW FACTIONS*: Ultramarines (Imperial Fists become the posterboys for SM codex), White Scars, Death Korps of Krieg

Aeldari: Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Ynarri *NEW FACTIONS:* Corsairs and Exodites, more Eldars coming soon

Xenos: Tau, Orks, Tyranids, Genestealer Cult, Necrons *NEW FACTIONS:* Kroots, Snakebites Klan, Lictors, Pariahs (yes, tons of sub-factions)

Chaos: Khorne (World Eaters), Nurgle (Death Guard), Slaanesh (Emperor's Children), Tzeentch (Thousand Sons), Chaos Space Marines, Daemons of Chaos *NEW FACTIONS*: Abaddon's Black Legion (CSM posterboys are now the World Bearers), Chaos Eldar, Iron Warriors, Night Lords, Renegade Knights

Which alliance will you choose?

>>52152492
No one here really cares about DoW 3.

Apart from the fact that it looks like total shit and will definitely be the worst in the franchise, discussion of it belongs on /v/.

>>52152517
Holy shit stop posting this fucking meme

If you're legitimately trying to convince people this is real you've already blown it like 4 times and keep changing the lists

Fluff question, as there doesn't seem to be a 40k tpg general:

Could a greater demon of who had been weakened/drained of power consume a lesser demon to recover strength? Or are demons unable to destroy each other, even when there are large differences in various power levels?

>>52152502
So only against gay nights? Lame.

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Thanks for everything these past few years, /tg/. My favorite community by far and it made my life a little bit better.

Here's to hoping the warp isn't real. Bye.

>>52152492
Starts with only Orks, Eldar and Space Marines with Guard being the first DLC faction.

Only "AdMech" unit will be the Imperial Knight, though those are neutral.

>>52152570

It's for narrative purposes only, so it doesn't matter if you're fighting GKs or not.

>>52152579
Don't an hero, anon.

There's still so much left that GW can destroy and you should stay until the end of the wild ride.

>>52152545
>as there doesn't seem to be a 40k tpg general:

RPG thread for pretending to be space marines >>52094331 (Cross-thread)

whats is the appeal of playing admech? no offense but they dont have many models and their minis look bland and boring.
is it the fluff? the tactics?

So, anyone got a nice summary of Part 3 of Gathering storm?

Is it Read the book?

>>52152579
Are you seriously going to end your life with a pokemon image.

>>52152614
>AdMech
>bland

They have some of the most detail-heavy models in the entire game.

Stop posting this bland bait already.

>>52152614
what? the models look awesome

>>52152587
Just like charging out of rhinos and taking 3+ saves out in the open against AP3?

Jokes aside I wish to run it in normal games because I find it funny.

is the term "deathstar" new, never heard of it. now the last couple of weeks everyone uses it, in person and in videos. i know what i means btw

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>>52152579
Where do you think you're going.

Do you think I will let you off my wild ride so easily, mortal?

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>>52152657
Have a better version.

>>52152652
Nah. First time I heard the term in 3rd edition with Ulthwé infinite Seer Council.

>>52152652
It's been around since at least 5th edition. I think it started in Fantasy.

>>52152652
Star Wars is pretty old at this point and I'm pretty sure the term has been around for more than a decade.

>>52152677
>>52152679
guess my brain has just being ignoring it up til this point

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Is this a decent army build for casual play against my brother and our friends?

Will only be playing against other Space Marines and Necrons with me being the most experienced player in the group.

>>52152725
The grand total anti-tank in youtr army is a single melta gun and one lascannon

also
>black templar
>working along side a psyker
ugh

>>52152732
BT since 3rd are ok with Imperial Psykers. Not madly in love with them but ok.

They just hate non Imperial psykers a lot. That is why FoC was such a fluff rape. Working all nicely with xeno psykers was a colossal fluff rape

>>52152732
Also got Multi-Meltas on the LRCs, at least. Running any anti-tank with Templars is always a pain if you want to be assault focused.

>Nu Black Templars
>not working with an Inquisitor
>not using Greyfax' sexy "no Overwatch" Psychic power when you can put her in

>>52152758
>Working all nicely with xeno psykers
Kinda overstatement. Greyfax and BT were super anxious about the Ynnari but they had no choice. Celestine had divine visions and her word was the will of the emperor.

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How does this list look?

>>52152365
no ofc he cant, he fired a weapon

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>>52152579
Bruh, it's too early for this.
1) I mean early in the morning for me
2) Gw hasn't burned everything down yet
3) if you do an hero, do it covered in your own semen. Maybe Slaanesh will embrace you.

>>52152732
>>52152725
>The grand total anti-tank in youtr army is a single melta gun and one lascannon

There's a couple of Multi-meltas and Meltabombs in there as well. Personally I'd definitely want more, but it might be workable. Maybe replace the 10-man Crusader squad with an Ironclad Dreadnought for dropping and and punching vehicles to death, or ditch the Drop Pod as well and get some Landspeeders or Bikes as fast tank hunters?

>list features 10 warbuggies
>current model is pig disgusting
>most converted ork buggies look like trash
Help.

>>52152579
Kill yourself, retard. I dare you to do it.

>>52152785
Could use a Dreadnought instead, yeah. Only put it together with stuff I currently own for now and I don't even have any Speeders or Bikes yet.

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r8? Been wanting to try out skitariis and scions. Vanguards take the jalopies and scions deep strike

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>>52152795
Edgy

>>52152789
Take the bottom part of an old Trukk (the ancient Gorkamorka ones), rip off everything else, and glue it onto the underside of a Land Speeder. It fits on pretty easily and the wheels are about the right size, so you can add some Grotz and Ladz to drive the thing then add damage and glyphs to taste. You can even use the Typhoon missiles as Twin-linked Rokkits.

I've seen an Ork player who used a squadron of looted Vypers to represent buggies as well.

>>52152782
Bobby G, His Wife and their beautiful Children take their many dogs for a walk/10

>>52152782
As far as I know you can only take conscripts as a part of an infantry platoon but I'm not sure about unbound lists

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>>52152828
>wife

You mean side piece?

>>52152828
>His Wife

That's not Yvraine though.

>>52152517
the only shit you will get is order (imperium, tau and eldar), destruction (tyranids, orks), necrons (necrons) and chaos

>>52152672
Is Girlyman doing my army now? Battle Harem?

He is getting all the Eldar and Imperium ASSets for himself.

>>52152834
This.
Basically, you can only take a platoon as a troops choice and then units inside the platoon as options.

You can't take it separately.

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>>52152615
>Cawl healed Guilliman's body, Yvraine healed his soul
>Guilliman is deeply depressed by state of Imperium
>Fulgrim and Mortarion are pissed by his return and swore to kill him
>Guilliman reinstitutes 500 worlds of Ultramar and puts Calgar at it head
>Yvraine and Guilliman have suspicious attraction
>Red Corsairs got Blackstone fortress from Abaddon
>they also hijacked Macragge's Honour from Ultras
>there is hidden Webway gate on Luna of which Emperor, Magnus and Malcador didn't knew about
>Magnus had upper hand in fight with Guilliman, Sisters of Silence temporarily block his power, harlequins trapped him in Webway
>Guilliman recognizes what Cypher's sword is, and don't want it near Emperor

>>52152886
The sword is from Horus or something? I always though the sword was from the Lion.

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>>52152517
>World Bearers
WORD bearers

they bear the GOOD WORD

>>52152903
It's the Lions sword. It eats souls

>>52152809
Nice and mobile and lots of anti-tank. Looks good to me but you're skittarii will barely get out of the deployment zone turn 1. This is definitely a list where I, a guard player, with ups take 2nd turn. That way I could hide my tanks and wait for your crabs and the Tauruxes to move first.

>>52152614

People have wanted an admech faction forever and now we have 2. the canticles and doctrina imperatives let you buff board wide every turn. They have very solid shooting in a game where a good shooting phase can cripple the enemy.

War convocation is the meme answer

Someone actually explaine Guilliman and Yvraine's relationship?

>>52152924
I misread that so bad that I now have the mental image of a sword eating while playing soul music.

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>>52152614
As a very recent convert to AdMech, I like:
>heavy religious, especially Catholic overtones
>priests anointing machinery with incense and chanting to soothe the spirits of land raiders
>irony of not knowing how most stuff works despite being the collectors of knowledge
>mix of Renaissance and futuristic aesthetics
>new models and kits, no need to rely on sculpts from the 90s
>beep boops

>>52152834
same
unbound allows you do not care about having too many hqs

using a conscript squad outside platoon is ripping a unit in half, its like saying i take 3scouts although its 5+

>>52152813
Cool, just let me source 10 OOP trukks and 10 speeders.
>new kit when

>>52152945
There is nothing to explain, pretty common thing for progressive noblebright Imperium.

>>52152966
>priests anointing machinery with incense and chanting to soothe the spirits of land raiders

Best part is, it's true and it works.

>>52152966
Less Renaissance and more classical, actually. But given much of the early Renaissance was inspired by classical statues and architecture I guess your not technically wrong.

>>52153007
That's what makes it so great.
>Ominus Dominus, keep Chaos shits outofus

>>52153037
True, I was referring more to things like the vanguard helmets and the rangers rifles/arquebus

How would /tg/ react if The Outsider C'tan is the Hive Mind Sarah Kerrigan of the Tyranids

>>52152998
I miss the Grimdark, I'm glad the Grimderp is less obvious like it was during 5th-6th

>>52152365
No. Even your cheese mongering faggot army needs to follow some rules.

>>52153007
i always thought, part of it is simply greasing the machine with the right oil

>>52153148
Land Raiders have machine spirits that need soothing. Otherwise it might rampage.

Lots of other things don't, or only have very weak machine spirits that can't do anything.

Those ones are the ones where it's just applying the right oils and such.

>>52153148
Centurion Warsuits have so pissy machine spirit that killing the pilot might not stop the thing going berserk on your ass anyway.

anyone know where i can download white dwarf 351? its an older one...

>>52152924
Wait, Eats or absorbs? Like if it absorbs, then actually wouldn't that be good to use on the Emperor?

>>52153265
https://www.scribd.com/document/324151979/White-Dwarf-351

Is it possible to purify the Chaos Gods? They all have dual aspects to them which in turn gives them power from good deeds like Khorne getting strength from courage and honor, while Tzeench gets power from hope and Slaanesh can gain power from love.

If a large enough group channeled those emotions, would they change the Chaos Gods daemons and habits? Would the Chaos Gods try to reward compassionate, loving people with the equivalent of that insulin blob from Aqua Teen Hunger Force, or a Daemonette Wife, or a Bloodletter Champion to defend their city, or ancient tomes to help rediscover the golden age?

>>52153287
No more feasible is to create a benevolent god who can then absorb the good souls and good aspect emotions
The problem with the chaos cunts is they are so powerful they can absorb weaker gods - that's why khorne has the skills of other war gods he basically takes over

>>52153329

Mhm I just mean to say, for instance, a powerful warrior on some random world, protecting their town from Dark Elf raids, facing impossible odds, if Khorne noticed, would he give them a boon or send a daemon to help him on the basis of his courage and honor?

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>>52152789
Best looking solution is probably to take a trukk kit, cut off everything behind the middle axle. Expensive and a little bulky, but consistent with the rest of the ork range and fairly easy to do. It's either that or gg with plasticard.

Or take deffkoptas instead of buggies and buy the AoBR ones.

Incidentally, is there a rules-set out there which lets you play with 40k models and is actually better than 40k? Or at least more balanced? Seems like the kind of thing someone would have tried to make at some point, given the level of weapons-grade autism found in this hobby.

>>52153384
Sadly there isn't a 40k like game in the market.
Everything is skirimish and "gods of war" (can't remember the name of the thing) is the only fantasy rank a file game out there after GW axed WHF.

>>52153361
Potentially, but anything sent to help is probably going to slowly drive him mad and try to get him to kill his friends.

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>>52153384

>>52152935
thanks man appreciate the advice. I was actually thinking of starting guard instead of the scion/skitarii, what kind of list would you play at 1k with them?

Rise of primarch epub yet?

>>52153584
Check OP links.

>>52153584
in the megas. both epub and pdf

>>52153546
I play a not-so optimized list:
1 pask in a vanquisher because no cheese allowed. Also, I get a near garanteed stun/shaken out of it so it's useful for denying high ap vehicles their shots.
1 battle tank bodyguard with flamethrowers so I can still glance av14 when not using splitfire. Also flamethrowers to stop enemies with meltaguns, idea being the infantry screen keeps them out of melta range, then moves away to allow the tank to burn them (the battle cannon would just scatter anyways), then charge any survivors.

Aforementioned infantry screen is a barebones infantry platoon for screening, backfield capping, and general utility.

2 chimera veterans: one with flamethrowers, one with meltaguns. Midfield cappers, trouble shooters, and initiative takers.

A leman Russ exterminator with heavy bolsters. My medium anti-transport and infantry tank.

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>>52153384
>>52152789

Does anyone have the black library mega link, please share and thanks

>>52152579
>My favorite community by far and it made my life a little bit better.
Drug addicted orphaned child soldier prostitutes with polio pity you anon

What are some good modelling opportunities for Crimson Fists?
Also what are some good loadouts for Sternguard since they seem to really like their crusade company?

>>52153081
doesn't the outsider sit in a dyson sphere in the milky way and the tyranids came from another galaxy?

>>52152318
So what's the consensus on Gathering Storm 3? Just how broken is the Ultramarines stuff? (Especially the detachment?) I kinda wanna use it but my meta is really casual and I don't want to stomp anyone.

Is it too late to join 40k? I am 24 years old and already feel too fucking old for this hobby.

Should I buy the rulebook with lore or wait for 8E?

>>52153903
wait for next edition before you buy a rule book obviously, just read the current rules off a pdf.
Everyone who plays 40k hates kids and young people automatically.

>>52153880
Victrix guard has the transport limitation os unless you're playing at least 2.5k points you're probably not gonna see it.

Victrix strike force is good but it's not white cars/DA

>>52153903
Hold off till 8th edition. It's right around the corner.

As for being too old. I'm 34, and the youngest in my gaming group.

>>52153903
Grab a boxed set. The Rulebook can fit in your pocket and you get some space marines out of it. Ask someone who plays the opposite army to chip in so you both get cheap units.

>>52153817

Give the STERNguards a role, as in either give them combiplasmas and use them as anti MEQ/TEQ, combimelta as vehicle killers or gravguns for anti TEQ/MC/GC and drop pod them in. Their special issue is pretty good too hence the combi weapons.

>>52153869
He just wants (his faction) wank

>>52152614
If you're going to repost my bait at least do it correctly.

Why do people like AdMech? They are the lamest faction in the game, every single model looks exactly the same.

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How am I looking bois

>>52153974
I'm gonna make a footslogging list.
Well, at least mostly. "Why?!" you scream from atop your current meta throne? Because I don't have transports and I want to actually play the game.

>>52153817
you could mix in some Templars iconography, since they're both "dorn's crusaders", otherwise use lots of dead orks on your bases.

>>52154033
>every single model looks exactly the same.

This is true

What are some good ways to support a Khormate chaos lord and make him more killy?

I figure I can take the Talisman of Burning blood to help rocket him into combat faster, but outside of psykers there doesn't seem to be an easy way to add killing power.

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>>52154037
Second part

>>52153903
im gonna be honest here.

stay away from actual games. there will be nothing but pain and autism waiting for you.

only buy models to paint and read lore books. dont fall into the chasm of autism like the rest of us

>>52154037
What's the auxiliary? List looks fun but with such a low model count expect an uphill battle.

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>>52154057
>read lore books

At this point you're better off painting you models so women and family friends can gawk at them and call them dolls

>>52154051
As a fellow TS/Tzeentch player I really like this, it looks really fun to run. I've never run Tzaangors though so I don't know how they'll hold up but with all those models you might be ok. 2000 points is a lot though so you may be a little outgunned. Try to make up for it with your extreme magic mastery.

>>52154057
This is shit advice. The game is still a rewarding part of this hobby. Don't steer people away from it because you're unhappy with it.

>>52153903
I got into 40k around that age, which was nice because i had the money to do so. I couldnt imagine starting as a kid having to rely on gifts for more models, but the people that started as a kid have more experience. I know an 18 year old that has 10 years of gaming under his belt.

>>52152839
Man, I know it's a meme and all, plus he's probably chemically gilded, but I like those two together

Yes, I know, I'm a total faggot

>>52154104
Only if you play Tau or Eldar.

So I'm looking for some help. I'm getting to build a guerrilla warfare and flyer heavy list. While i think I've got a grasp on how to do the former with marines, I'm lost on their flyers and would really like some tips or advice

>>52153903

I'm 23 and started last year. The hobby is perfect for us with jobs and money plus it's fun as hell to play

>>52154038

I play BT and footslogging is all i know, only thing i use transports for is my STERNguard

>>52154135
>plus he's probably chemically gilded

You can make a strong argument for the Marines themselves being chem-gelds, or otherwise indoctrinated to the point where they don't care about sex or relationships, but not for the Primarchs. They didn't require surgical procedures or chemical treatments to become the superhuman creatures they are, so their bits are probably all in working order.

>>52154136
>Only if you play Tau or Eldar.

I don't play any top tier army, but I still manage to have fun. Must just be me then, I guess...

>>52154196
Are you one of those cucks who likes losing every game?

>>52154186
Can't honestly say. I know they're basically clones of E Money, so you'd think he'd have done something. Then again, they were fully grown adults by the time they were 5 or 6. Yeah, you might be right.

>>52154077
he is new so whats stopping him from only reading the best? the eisenhorns, ciphias cain or early horus heresy books?

he doesnt have to read the current trash.

>>52154196
Anon, he is right. No one wants to play a low tier army.

Imagine you fell for the Orks or Nids meme and then get fucked over by everyone.

>>52154208
>complains that only tau and eldar are good
>insults people for enjoying something other than winning
If you only care about winning then stop being a bitch and pick an optimised army. Otherwise you're just being a faggot

>>52154232
I play orks and I win at least 20% of the games I play!

Get it right!

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Why doesn't Khorne give you superpowers like the other Gods if he's supossedly the strongest god?

How is +1 A even slightly lore friendly?

>>52154066
>>52154051
Second part is there

>>52154094
I was making this an 1850 list an I have a few extra points left over just to toss around in an upgrade I was thinking.

As far as low model count I was counting on the locus of creation helping. 32 pinks turn into 128 blues and 256 brimstone bases.

>>52154077
Married man checkin in.

Friends/family/wife doesn't care since it's one of many hobbies. I have different circles of friends for those things and a few, but not many overlap. My best friend (who doesn't partake) said it makes me seem like the retired French spy guy from the DeNiro action movie Ronin.

If you're single, it will come off as unappealing to women for sure unless you have other hobbies too. If your friends think you're odd for the hobby then they're not really your friends.

>>52154208
t. Necron Player

>>52153903

started last year with 25

>>52154208
>Are you one of those cucks who likes losing every game?

There's no such thing, and I play with a group people who don't act like total faggots. So, the games are thoroughly enjoyable, because we don't try to fuck each other over.

>>52153903
started a year ago at 34

>>52154232
I've got a friend who started with Tau, and then moved onto Orks because they're more fun to play. Winning isn't the only thing about the game that makes it fun.

>>52153903
The average age for this game is like 30 lol
Why gamesworkshop doenst seem to understand that is mind boggling

>read tyranid codex
>almost all of the lore is about nids getting their asses kicked

>>52153903
I tried playing when I was 12 and I simply didn't have the pocket money for it. I picked it back up at 28 and now I can afford anything I want and painting is a nice alternative when you don't feel like going out on the weekends.

>>52154232
>Anon, he is right. No one wants to play a low tier army.

He's not right, he's a faggot, and even low tier armies are fun to play casual games with.

>>52153903

Youngfags can't afford to pay $50 for a tiny box of 5 plastic models, especially when building a small starter army costs at least $300 - $400. Almost everyone I know who plays 40k is older than I am (I'm 25).

>>52154349
Please stop calling competive casual.

Even scrub tier can play competive, they can't play in waac scenarios.

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>>52152318

Your daily imperial guard motivational

http://imperialsex.ytmnd.com/

>>52154077
Why should women give a fuck about your hobby if you are good-looking, have money and """personality""".

Hell, most of us don't even have any female contact other than their moms or sisters.

>>52154360
Back when I started the game was expensive but not retardly expensive.

20 Guardsmen costed less than 10 Guardsmen today.

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>>52154379
>ytmnd
>2017

>>52154399
seriously

if you got your shit together and look good you can chop people up at the weekends and women will still let you fist their butts

>>52154399
I never understood this meme. Is that a USA thing?

>>52154424
>women will still let you fist their butts
Is this what happens when you're a normie?

>>52154428
>Having personality and charisma is a USA thing

It's a thing that people have if they aren't socially retarded

>>52154379
Holy shit that website is still going?

>>52154462
so this might be a USA thing after all
:^)

>>52154424
>look good
>"just bee urself"

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Yay or nay for a casual battle?

>>52154462
No, I mean never having contact with a women beside your mother and sister.

Does the machine spirit actually exist

>>52154482
fug, the fish team should have bonding knife instead of the support turret

>>52154488
The Machine Spirit, like everything else the AdMech talks about is a vague classification of truth, superstition and broad categorizations of varying phenomena.

A Machine Spirit may be an actual Warp-spirit in the case of some extremely old and venerable machines, the oddities in its software routines or simply a personification of its deviance from the norm (like a Plasma Gun that has a habit of overheating being considered to have an 'angry, wild' spirit while a 'calm, collected' plasma gun overheats less.)

The absolute worst thing you can do with AdMech fluff is take it at first value, literally and with no room for vagueness, otherwise you're completely missing the whole point.

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Should I buy this? I have a sisters of battle army but they can't have land raiders.
Also does it make sense fluff-wise to have legion equipment on successor chapters? Like does every chapter out there maintain a super secret pre-heresy armoury that they only now bring out that GW released the models?

>>52154038
Yea you dont have them and the models (especially rhinos) aren't that cool, but I think they do give you a lot more options in-game. Beyond just maneuverability with your troops, there's so much you can do with them afterwards, moving cover, tank shocking off objectives, etc.

>>52154547
Inquisitorial Battle Harem.

Load it with DCA and Crusades and you are good to go.

>>52154547
Trade deals are a thing but you can fluff it as equipment gifted for saving an ancient forgeworld or something

>>52152523
>worse than Soulstorm
Please off yourself.

>>52154584
LoadStorm didn't happen.

That said the DE and SoB where baller as fuck, but just like the table top flyers ruined everything.

>oh why yes of course we pray to fucking machines
this cult is one of the reasons why i cant take skitarii fans seriously

>>52154624
It's pretty well explained in 1d4chan.

>>52152782
Those conscript dudes are the price of a Gretchin kek. Also I'd play this but the model count for a 1000 point game is a lot.

>>52154485
This is borderline impossible unless you never leave your home

>>52154624
Hey, if orks can paint shit red to make it go faster technophiles should be able to pray to their mech to not die

>>52154623
DE and SoB were sort of incomplete though.

>>52153688
Damn that's pretty sexy.

Talons of the Emperor box is 265$ Value box for 135-150$.

>>52154696
You only had same sex schools or something? That is why the meme of nerds not touching women is so strange for me. Like what the actual fuck?

>>52154624
It's cannon that everything has a reflection in the warp - even blanks though it's a negative reflection

>>52154556
I'm actually thinking of buying some rhinos eventually, I just can't be assed right now and I'd rather have land raiders and vindicators anyway.
>>52154565
And what codex should I use for that? Imperial Agents?

>>52152945
Do you want the real version or the 4chan version?

>>52154718
Stil gotta finish my third, just not feeling the creative flow lately.

>>52153903
24 is the perfect age to be getting into this. It's promoted as a kids game, but it definitely is not for kids.

>>52154758
For DCA and Crusaders squads? Just for Inquisition. I can't recall a time when I wanted to use Inquisition stuff with IA.

Those 16 point psykers are almost always better than the 25 points one from IA.

>>52154624
How si it any different than flicking the ligts on and off off be sure the bulb is blown, shaking the remote to wake up the batteries or yelling at your car when it's too cold to start?

It's all that with super-science and 10.000 years of compiled superstition.

>>52153679
Just remember the battle tank is ordnance so if fire that battle cannon you have to snap fire other weapons and you can't snap fire flamers.

>>52154724
Shit, source? They may get my shekels

>>52154812
I can't believe someone had to explain this

>>52154804
Well I already use IA for my sisters so it would make sense to use Inquisitors from the same codex, I don't want to do pick-and-mix just to optimize a few points.

>>52154859
To clarify I only asked because I didn't notice that acolytes can have land raiders as dedicated transports

>>52154857
Yesterday we had to explain the rules to Battle for Vedros.

So do AdMech guys actually know in depth electrical engineering or do they just dig stuff up and find ways on how to use it? Not wanting to bait I'm generally curious as to how much the religious aspects dominate the science part of their society

>>52152886
What do you mean another Web way?

Are they gonna bring the Webway project back?

>>52154565
"Crusades" totally sounds like something GW would produce.

>>52154859
You need a formation to use DCA and Crusaders in the same unit with IA that has a small Acolyte tax with it.

While in Inquisition they are just an option for the Acolyte squad no need to take the formation.

With SoB and Inquisition you end mixing and min maxing a lot, just because how odd AS, I and IA codex are.

For example Priest
In AS they are IC that do not occupy a FOC slot
In I they are just one memember of the Acolyte squad
While in IA they are IC HQ.

>>52154854
Euro prices.

- Sisters are 35
- Custodes 45
- Talon box is 125

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1792

>>52154959
Phone posting is suffering. Sneaky autocorrect.

>>52154724
Awww yeah. Looking forward to this one.

>>52154974

Not so cheap: maybe Prospero is a better choice

>>52153081
>The Outsider C'tan
You mean the C'tan known as The Endless Swarm?

>>52154157
We'll for space marine flyers your choices are a stubby little ground attack aircraft that honestly looks like something Marvin the Martian would build, a stubby little fighter that looks like something Marvin the martian's tunnel-visioned brother build, and 2 gunships that resemble bricks more than anything airworthy. The gunships are also transports so if you want something to arrive by air you'll want at least one of them. Stats wise, they're all pretty tough and shooty.


But because the death from the skies supplement included a formation that's basically "1-5 aircraft of any type", you can also take aircraft from any other faction as an allied detachment.

>>52154947
They do but its ridden with useless religious dogma. Higher level magos are more liberal with their workings.

>>52154947
It's my understanding that they can communicate with the machine spirit and it tells them how to fix it. Basically mechanics that can talk to engines to find out exactly what's wrong with them

Thanks for all the responses, guys.

I just ordered the Harlequin Codex and patiently wait for 8E.

>>52154947
Some of one, some of the other. Some basic scrub Engineseer mostly knows ritual and prayer, it's just that actually includes binary command codes and maintenance that's in the Tech-priest equivalent of a simple religious menemonic. Once you get to Magos Auxilia or higher you start learning actual science, High Magi or someone on the Synod can do their own research within reason as long as they are careful to feel"divinely inspired" when they need to reveal the new shit, and Archmagi are essentially minor gods of knowledge and can do shit like commanding each and every soldier in a system-wide war individually, and if they've got a good enough power base can research what they like and probably tell the Inquisition to fuck right off if they come calling.

A lot of the religious stuff is only mysterious to outsiders, too. Some "Prayers of Ignition" are probably just swearing in binharic cant while fixing the thing. Remember not much of the fluff is from their perspective.

>>52154403
Is thatcomplaint adjusted for inflation? $30.00s in 1990 is $55.00s today

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>>52154974
If they throw in 1 of these 2 bad boys, i'd consider it a must buy. But, oh wel...

>>52155065

You stupid fuck you didn't listen.

YOU DIDN'T LISTEN

>2+ rerollable Cover and Invuln Saves

Why would anyone ever think this was OK?

>>52154974
Talons also has a Rhino, Land Raider and Contemptor dread

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>>52154962
I don't think this looks too bad honestly. I kinda wanted to do something similar anyway.

>>52155065
You don't need to wait to buy models and start painting my friend.

>>52154829
I'm aware. The idea is that anything close enough to use Flamers is way too close to use the battle cannon without it scattering onto my own infantry. It only costs 10 points for three heavy flamers protecting pask so why not?

>>52155074
Yep and purchasing power.

Let's not even take into account retarded shipping times and import fees. Looking at you UPS, fucking hacks how the fuck do you get more than 30% extra prices for "costums" after paying for the shipping it self is beyond reasoning.

>>52155092
>72 inch range str 8 ap 2 large blast
Why would anyone ever think this was ok?

>>52154926
There are somethings i'm glad i missed out on... this is one of them

>>52154947
Tech Priests are almost all Stephen Hawking level geniuses. Then you add the religious stuff.

>>52155113
Why the 3 Mystic?

Are those Crusaders and DCA in the same squad or what?

>>52154829
If you get d3 shots from flamers in overwatch, would you not be able to snap fire them for d3 shots as well?

>>52155092
>2+ cover
Thank god for fire on my target amiright?
>2+ invuln
Let's just assume this fuckers invincible.

>>52155113
Only take 1 Psyker. They're BoP.

>>52155066
>>52155049
>>52155043
thanks for the input guys.
>Remember not much of the fluff is from their perspective.
you're right about that. reminds me of how they were described by eisenhorn (and how much he wanted to purge them)

>>52155138
What's that?

>>52154771
Sweet, post pics when done.

>>52155145
They are ALL a single squad except the Inquisitor. I just thought since you have to have 3 acolytes they might as well all be psykers.
>>52155164
Oh well fuck me, it didn't say anything about that in the Imperial Agents codex and I haven't used many psykers.

>>52155175
Like 50 different guns in the game.

>>52155184
You only take one Psyker in a squad they don't add anything since they have Brotherhood of Psyker.

If you wish to add a lot just go for a Psykana Division. IA or IG guard are good.

>>52155049
And now:
Things you can say to your landraider but you can't say to your girlfriend

are the forge of mars novels good sources to learn more about the admech society?

>>52155157
Flamers for tanks can't over watch. Instead we can buy fire barrels that do the same thing.

>>52155184
might also want to try shifting the numbers b/w DCA and Crusaders a bit. You don't really need a lot of the assassins if you can keep them alive. Maybe 4 crusaders and 4 assassins

>>52155223
General rule of thumb is 3:1. 3x DCA 1xCruasader.

You just want the Crusader to take the first random hits from shooting or overwatch when your Landraider dies or when assaulting.

Some like the 2:1 ratio but I'll take the risk with a 3:1.

>>52155186
I'm pretty sure your misremembering the battle cannon: 48" str8 ap3, or the demolished cannon: 24" str10 ap1, or the vanquisher cannon: 72" str8 armorbane 1.

I don't know of any str8 ap2 blasts

>>52155212
They're ok. Not really great and the ending is dumb, but you'll get a bit of insight.

From the current books, my favorite is probably Skitarius, since it shows Skitarii as more than just thralls to the Tech-Priests and how they act during a planetary attack.

Titanicus is also really good, but only has AdMech as a "supporting actor" alongside the Titan Legions.

>>52155287
>Skitarius
Thanks man I'll look into it.

>>52155263
More than death, 40k will live like a cripple.

>>52155266
Don't forget about the 48" S10 AP1 Blast Neutron Laser.

>>52155266
>Orks kustom mega kannon
>Nova charged riptide ion accelrator
thats two off the top of my head

Is 1d4chan good for reading tactics?

>>52155320
no
not even close

>>52155175
Riptide Ion Accelerator with overcharge.

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>>52155303
EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE

>>52155266
Do plasma cannons count? S7 Ap2 blast.

Celestine pussy shot was S8 AP3? Being one use is kind of shit thou

How interchangeable are Dreadnought bits and Helbrute bits? I want to kitbash them together for some cool looking chaos noughts.

>>52155320
1d4chan is globally shitty. Better look at some tournament player's blogs for input on what works as far as lists go. Best way to learn tactics is to play a friend on a list that is designed to beat yours, as you will have to go the extra mile even to try and not ger wrecked (I practice my assault CSM against my friend's shooting Tau and purposedly take few transports, it forces me to not go the ork way)

I NEED THOSE NUMARINES TO BE REAL

>>52155301
https://youtu.be/dA9n6eqyOJU

For some reason the audiobook is on youtube if that's your style.

>>52155320
Only if all you need to know is wwhat a unit is equipped with and what role it fills but their actual usage tips are terrible.

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>>52155328

>>52155266
Its >>52155326

>>52155362
around 0%

>>52155362
Not at all. the helbrute connecting parts are all special bits

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>>52155379

>>52155369
why?

>>52155400
modeling joy

>>52154624
>I can't take skitarii seriously
>I can take every other silly thing seriously
Just wait until you realize 40k is space fantasy and not sci-fi

>>52155442
>only 1 blurry picture out there that might be a conversion
>"They will be a joy to model!"
oh you are a drooling retard, sorry i didnt know

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>>52155398

>>52155369
Look at their waists, they are robots, as in not actual legs. Either some new kind of dread!not for the veteranest veterans or some player-made conversions

>Streamlining is automatically bad

Now, I will be the first to contradict myself and say that in vidya, when streamlining is brought up, I will become a huge anti-casual autist, but from what I've seen with AoS, the streamlining as it is now is fine and dandy

>>52152579
Man, call the suicide hotline. You probably just have a chemical imbalance that makes you feel incorrectly. Fix it; think of all the cool shit you'll be able to do in the future!

>>52155442
>look mom I posted again
Nice to meet you too, fucking gentleman. Even a bit blurry, it shows a nice amount of detail and a bigger look. If its a conversion, then show me how its done.

Modeling proper sized SM and converting them in whatever chapter/legion/warband you like would be a joy, yes.

Go fuck yourself bitch.

>>52155495
There's also good streamlining in vidya.

The kind we need for 40k at this point is akin to switching to a button-based interface from having to enter commands via text previously.

>>52152853
sounds likely
>let's put all 2 of our skeleton factions in their own unique grand alliance
>and then squat one of them

>>52153384
One Page 40k is overall far better balanced & simpler.

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Pls rate my list.

Captain can have different loadouts for that cost

>>52155065
>Eldar shit
fucking why

>>52155565

maybe I'm missing a predator

The idea is that the tacticals and the scouts combat squad and par of it stays camping objectives or under cover and part of it moves.

>>52155565
>Not T3/10
Come back when you have a man's army with glorious T3

>>52155565
Using a 10-man Scout squad is a bad idea, doubly so when only half of them have Snipers and the others would just stand around doing nothing.

10-man Tacticals are also not the greatest thing unless used with a Drop Pod to get them onto the other side on points ASAP and Combat Squad from there.

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Guys
what's the most retarded hq you've ever run?
Played this against khorne bloodbound last week, close game but I lost because more than 1/3 of the army is in the Stupid Fucking Melee Commander.

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>>52155527
Too bad what we're getting is.

>>52155172
Stop visiting /pol/
He was awed by the achievements of mars though he felt some of the priests shouldn't have gotten rid of their flesh humanity - a theme in how he talks about both Maxilla and Magos Burre
That's why Abnett added in the glavians as a way to be tech implanted without being inhuman

>>52155642
Age of Sigmar>Warhammer 40k

>>52155661
Remember to shout "Fer da emprah" for an extra hitting harder dice.

>>52155654
wtf did this have to do with /pol/ just random fucking jab?

>>52155675
Ah yeah, those joke rules in a few OOP legacy models are pretty fun.

Good thing no other models have those, huh?

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>>52155616

Better?

>>52155527
I don't want AoS, but holy fuck 40K needs simplification.
Why the fuck did they just make flyers even more complicated. Why do psykers have their own special phase when mechanically it'd make more sense for it to be in the shooting phase. What the fuck is with multi-unit assaults and multi-level assaults. And why still the huge disparity between vehicles and monsterous creatures.
It needs simplification and streamlining. Not AoS levels by a long shot, but it still needs it.

>>52152579
Emperorspeed anon. Look after yourself. We're all here for you to come shitpost with over GW.

>>52155601

I'm thinking of running allies with IG as my standard 40k army

>>52155709
Yeah, I like that a lot more.

>>52155266
kustom mega-kannon is one

What special weapon should I give to my 5 men basic CSM squads? Plasma, or melta?

>>52155722
You mean to ally shit to your main IG army?

Daily reminder that every general is either a SoB or IG thread. Always and for ever

>>52155742
Plasma if you already have melta somewhere else in your list, melta otherwise

>>52155742
depends on what you're afraid of

>>52155780
What if I plan on running Raptors with 2 Meltas, Termies with Plasmas and Havocs with ACs?

>>52155768

I like spess mahreens but I like the contrast between sizes and rules with IG.

I was thinking of making my one and only 40k army an allied SM+IG one

>>52155742

Plasma or flamer always

Melta for chosen or raptors

>>52154135
I normally don't care for Marine lore as I think most of the time it's too stupid to be interesting, but Roberto is really awesome to me and I agree with you, I really like them together too. I also like Greyfax and Celestine together, but they both seem canonically straight, which is fine. Celestine seems too devoted to be in a relationship, and I'm sure Greyfax needs a big strong man to satisfy her.

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>>52152886
>A Primarch getting it on with an eldar

Time to gwt into WH40k

>>52155789
I'm actually tempted to just run them without special weapons to make them cheaper

I play DA but nobody gives a shit about my Ravenwing, just stale heresy jokes because of that one time.

>>52155688
>i-it's a g-great meme my d-dudes...
Seriously be that take those jabs need to get a new meme

>>52155820
Haven't considered a flamer desu. Is it really a good idea?

>>52155875
That wasn't even me, i was just random curious anon... but seriously don't see what it had to do with /pol/ and you didn't answer? bizarre

>>52155882

Flamer if against low T zerg armies

Plasma for elite small troop armies

>>52155661
AOS only has two positive qualities, Rend and Keywords.

>>52155882

Statiscally speaking I've always caused more casualties with flamers than with any other special weapon regardless of army.

The flame template is massively underrated imo

>>52155826
I would fucking spew if they started doing romances, and I would sell my entire AS collection and throw in with the Tau

so How do I get on the lore for gathering storm

>>52155688
Shut up you alt-right snowflake and go back to your containment board 'safe space'

>>52155902
/pol/ is the /tg/ equivalent of the boogeyman.

>>52155962
you read the books

>>52155834

Flamer is cheap

Flamer is always better than bolter

>>52155882
If argue the for a basic marine squad, the things that afraid of flamers don't really warrant the use of one.

If you're close enough to use a flamer, you're close enough to blast away with Rapid fire Boltguns, or potentially just charge into melee instead. If neither of those would kill the mob, then odds are a flamer wouldn't make that big of a dent either.

Still, it is a very cheap option, so you can't really go wrong there.

>>52155263

Fuck m8 you hit my feels

>>52155981
but do I just stick to the trilogy or is there more required reading

>>52156009
Also it's good for overwatch. d3 autohits

>>52155940
>Multiwound infantry to convey durability rather than silly rerolling 2+ and depleting monstrous stats
FTFY

>>52156014
Nope, just the books in the trilogy

>>52155954
Hah. Well they obviously wouldn't, so you never have to worry. They would absolutely turn away their audience if they went down that route.

40k is about superhuman faggot bromance, and not about interesting things.

>>52156014
No, just those three.

>>52155826
Celestine and greyfax are bi sexual. Basically all women that serve in the imperium are.

>>52156040
Not true, there's plenty of sex and brief romance in BL books. They just keep it out of codexes and game books

>>52156051
As much as I like your headcanon this is not true.

>>52156072
BL has never counted.

>>52155801
I'd go for melta on both the termies and raptors, and bring plasma on the 5man CSM

>>52156051

lmao

Not at all.

Very few people in the imperium are even sexual at all, depends on region

I bet there are taxes to even have sex, or maybe it's a reward you get from ranking up in your shitty imperial jobs.

>>52156051
>Basically all women are
FTFY

>>52156009

Nigger the flamer is an awesome overwatch weapon and covers more models than an auto bolter

>>52156034
What single unit has re-rolling 2+?

>>52156106
>very few people are sexual...
Were you born this way? or did someone touch you to make you think this was even possible of the human animal?

Sex and violence are the fundamental drives of humanity and for the imperium to continue surviving it needs both of them going at full bore

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So does the Stormlord allow you to assault out of it? It says it is treated as an open-topped vehicle for disembarking, but the open-topped vehicle rule says all open-topped vehicles have the assault vehicle rule.

>>52155698
>Liking AoS
Eat shit and die

>>52156139

The imperium is a very very big faction

I imagine there are countless laws taxes and restrictions on top of population control depending on world

Are you actually autistic? you write in a very odd way

>>52156139
>I enjoys having my prostate fondled by lepers

At least quote properly.

What is the appeal of playing mass/hordes armies such as Tyranids or IG? Doesn't it take more effort to move them around the table compared to smaller armies?

>>52156157
Yes you can.

>>52156130
>Daemons of Tzeentch can get the 2+ invulnerable rerolling 1s
>Dark Angels can get a 2+ Jink rerolling 1s
>Any Marine (Chaos or Loyal) can use a power to reroll failed Saves.

>>52156166
>Eat shit and die
WOW YOURE A TOUGH MAN

>>52156106
Just because GW doesn't do into the nitty gritty in their PEGI 12 rulebooks doesn't mean warhammer is a setting without sex. It's just not put under the limelight that often.

>>52156185
Those aren't single units, those are deathstars and/or externally buffed.

>>52156129
Yeah. It'll deal a max of 3 hits, which will probably kill 3 cheap horde units with ease if you get charges.

Alternatively, throw a frag grenade during your turn, blast away about as many, and then charge in to get bonus attacks for yourself and deny the enemy his.

>>52156130
Orks have mega armour with the lucky stikk, but that's armour save only.

>>52155326
Lacks Ignores Cover and Interceptor.

>>52156180
It does take more effort to build, paint, transport and play. I personally love my hoard of Guardsmen. I love the idea of whipping them up into a friendzy and charging while rapid firing their guns.

Right now I have 30 Conscripts and 30 normal Guardsmen. I have 10 more Conscripts I'm stripping and gonna paint. I also have 40 more normal Guardsmen. I'm hoping to have 2 30 man Infantry blobs and a squad of 40 Conscripts.

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Making my first ever miniature army, thoughts? List is Missing Lias Issodon (175p) because FW\Badab.

Strat is basically to combine Celestine with a Kill Team and use Master of Ambush (gained from Lias as a Warlord) to infiltrate the Kill Teams.

>>52156078
Head cannon is the only way to go. There's no god dam way the sisters aren't all a bunch of bi sexuals

>>52156180
Mass shit infantry with cheapest hq option avaliable is fun if you don't care about winning, but the game is actually designed poorly for this. Also high E ends you. Also your army gets expensive as shit. Also it's painful to paint. Also Your turns will take 10 days each. Also don't

>>52156225
They also have mutiple wounds and above average toughness.

>>52156212
Night Lords Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with the Stormbolt Plates and Wings.
2+ rerollable armor save
2+ rerollable jink save

>>52156242
Sure there is, they are all in love with the emperor and turn all their pent up frustration into prayer an training.

>>52156201
for you

>>52156043
>>52156014
under where can I find it on the Mega Archives?