Warhammer 40K General /40KG/

File: Untitled.png (38KB, 444x156px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 444x156px

>>52148155

Why does Greyslut lust for Astartes D so much?

>>52148171
My god.

>>52148171
RIP Amalrich. Probably didn't even tap that.

Alright, to get away from the powerlevel discussion:

Which unit do you guys think is the most FUN to use and play against? That is ignoring how strong oe weak it may be, just how mechanically fun the unit is and behaves.

>>52148171
yeeeeee boi

File: 1415914421929.gif (1MB, 250x250px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 250x250px

>>52148171

>a loaded glance

File: kNoNliv.jpg (177KB, 720x402px) Image search: [Google]

177KB, 720x402px

>>52148185
>>52148171

>>52148171
Too bad he died to meme spewing minotaur.

>>52148171
That bitch put up a death flag for Amalrich by giving him flirty eyes.

Everytime a hero gets flirty-eyed before going into battle shit goes south.

File: Ladyboner.gif (2MB, 300x225px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 300x225px

>>52148171
>a loaded glance

File: neckbeard schoolgirl squealing.png (396KB, 702x543px) Image search: [Google]

396KB, 702x543px

>>52148223
YURI CRUSADE

>>52148223
his death flag was being named the emperor's champion

>>52148197
SYDONIAN
DRAGOOOOOONS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9D71pQaTnc

File: 1850 SW.png (196KB, 893x974px) Image search: [Google]

196KB, 893x974px

Reposting since last thread died before I could get a response

So I'm going to be transitioning from just painting stuff to actually playing the tabletop game soon and I put this list together just from what I actually have

Since I have pretty much no experience with the game I'm unaware of what strengths and weaknesses my units would bring to the table, what additions or changes could I make to make things fun. Only rule is that I have no intention to use thunderwolf cavalry or wulfen but I am considering maybe starting a small second army for some allied shenanigans, possibly from mechanicus or the scions

Anyone have a decent kakophoni list I can look at and learn from?

I am having a hard time putting so much wargear around on them

>>52148252
That was such a BECAUSE DRAMA move, too.

The Emperor's Champion is being chosen randomly from among the entire Crusade and it just so happened to hit the Marshal of the entire thing just as a new Space Marine leadership joined the Crusade?

Come the fuck on, that shit was a set-up to get rid of the Marshal.

>>52148197

I love fielding loaded platoons of IG. 5th ed was especially fun. Creed/Kell used to be such an epic combination with a shitload of troops. That combined with a newfound ability to take a bunch of battle tanks? Shit yes! The IG have always been fun for me. And the ridiculous combinations you could field like IG aircav... is this still an option?

File: 99550108159_SecutariiPeltasts03.jpg (73KB, 600x620px) Image search: [Google]

73KB, 600x620px

>>52148197
20 man squads of Secutarii Peltasts using flachettes.

I like using a bucket to roll my dice.

File: Eldar and Necron alliance denied.png (374KB, 225x814px) Image search: [Google]

374KB, 225x814px

According to the new book, the Ynnari left Ultramar to pursue their next mission which is protecting the Necron Pylons from Chaos.

While the Eldar were fighting off daemons, Necrons emerged to protect what is theirs. The Necrons initially did not target the Eldar and went just for the daemons.

Yvarine urged her Eldar kin to reach out to the Necrons and form an alliance with them. However, the Eldar did not listen and started firing on the Necrons. The Necrons responded in kind and now the Eldar are sandwiched between the Necrons and the daemons, and it looks like the Pylons are gonna get destroyed anyways.

Reinforcements are arriving in the form of Asurman and his warriors but it seems it's too late. This raises interesting questions.

Eldar hatred prevented an alliance to be formed with the Necrons on that world but there can be other chances. So can the Eldar and Necron reconcile their disagreements and set aside their ancient hatreds and bitterness to work for the greater good? Is it possible? Do you want to see a Necron and Eldar alliance? We have seen an Imperial and Eldar alliance and how they play off on each other so what will the Necron and Eldar ally dynamic be as in who would be the sub and the dom?

>>52148293
You need to drop 50 points SOMEWHERE to get a Dreadnought Drop Pod for that Leviathan. Just use a normal drop pod's model for it sicne the two are nearly identical in size.

No joke, having a Lucius pod is practically mandatory for the leviathan as it gives him 3 additional hull points on turn 1. He isn't required to disembark the pod, and it's open-topped. So he can shoot out of it. Then on turn 2 he can disembark and FUCK UP something you don't like.

File: bikers.jpg (407KB, 1628x900px) Image search: [Google]

407KB, 1628x900px

>>52148303
I wish GW had the subtlety to think of that. We're moving away from the era of politics and plots, and into the era of Heroes and Saints and Primarchs. There are grey areas left in the galaxy. It's all becoming primary colours.

So, Guilliman's back with a bitter vengeance, sporting Darth Vader-like life support systems and a grudging understanding of authoritarianism.
There's rumors of Ferrus Manus coming back Ghost Rider-style as the leader of the Legion of the Damned.
What are some other twists for returning primarchs?
Wulfen Leman Russ? Dreadnought'd Khan? Sanguinius becoming Sara Kerrigan for the Tyranids?

>>52148342

Necron and Eldar are literally like Imperium and Chaos, it would never work. The Necrons are remnants like Chaos are, and the Eldar are their ancient enemies' sons, just like the current Imperium is to Chaos.

>>52148197
I've always been partial to a game my buddy and I call HRT: Havocs, Raptors, and Terminators.

Both of us build a force using only Chaos Lords and/or Sorcerers, Raptors, Havocs, and Terminators, and can only take options and vehicles available to those units.

Havocs are hands-down the best at shooting, and with Plasma guns are a major threat to pretty much anything on the board. However, they are pretty much entirely dependent on not getting tied up in Assault in order to be effective, and they die to any dedicated melee assault from Raptors or Terminators.

Terminators are the tank units that act as flexible troops to fulfill different roles - they're decent enough at both range and CC when given a Combi-Weapon and either a Lightning Claw or a Power Fist/Power Maul. They can out-shoot Raptors while crunching Havocs in melee and absorbing their fire better.

Raptors are the anti-infantry units, who utilize mobility, maneuverability, and their special weapons to bring precision assaults and tie up the foe in melee.

Lords and Sorcerers add quite a bit to the game because of relics and abilities, and act as force multipliers.

Land Raiders are super-pricey, but also super-dangerous if the opponent isn't prepared for it.

It's a lot of fun. At 1000pts, you have enough variety and wiggle room to flesh out a force while still forcing you to make tactical choices.

So to answer your question, those three

>>52148361
>There's rumors of Ferrus Manus coming back Ghost Rider-style as the leader of the Legion of the Damned.
Don't spread misinformation, that was never a rumour, just wishlisting.

File: 1483071538434.jpg (1MB, 2592x1936px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2592x1936px

>>52148343
A pod for the leviathan is the first thing I was going to purchase once I get everything finished up

So you're certain people wont mind mine using a regular drop pod for the lucius? I've seen conversions to make them more accommodating for a dreadnought in terms of looks so I was just planning on using that.

Is the storm cannon worth keeping on a podded leviathan or should I just go fully choppy?

>>52148365
>Necron and Eldar are literally like Imperium and Chaos, it would never work.

Actually, loyalists and traitors allied with each other against the Beast Waaagh! in the Beast series. The fought side by side.

>>52148365
So Yvraine trying to convince her kind to ally with the Eldar for a common goal is akin to Cypher trying to convince the Ultramarines to work with the Fallen to get to the goal, right?

File: Ned Stark Arrives To Take Back Winterfell.gif (2MB, 460x259px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 460x259px

>>52148379
>>52148361
>Ferrus Manus arrives to take back Cadia

>>52148361
All the OG legions with personal lists will get their primarch back. Wulfen Russ, Sanguinor as Sanguinius, and the Lion will probably be brought back too. Just wait for the codices to release next edition with swanky new primarch models.

>>52148342
I think Eldar would be better off getting the Imperium as a proxy to deal with Necrons. Ynnari have enough influence that they could probably get papa smurf to at least listen, and since it is dealing with a pylon, it would have actual persuasive weight.

>>52148379
Fuck, was it unsubstantiated?
It's the most bitchin' idea for Ferrus' return to not be wasted.

>>52148402
>ally with the Eldar
I meant Necrons ofc.

File: Recruit a team of Aspect Warriors with attitude.jpg (182KB, 1191x670px) Image search: [Google]

182KB, 1191x670px

>>52148197

Any of the Aspect Warriors. Slapping planes out the sky with Hawks, denying jinks with Reapers, disappearing Land Raiders with Dragons, BAMFing around with Spiders, rolling a million dice for the Avenger's Killing Strike, infiltrating Scorps and watching the absolute MADMAN of an Exarch solo most of the squad. It's all good.

File: 1474141342179.jpg (114KB, 1022x915px) Image search: [Google]

114KB, 1022x915px

Hey /40KG/ not to just barge in but I was going to ask this in /40krpg/ but the thread is basically dead at this point.

Who would Rick and Morty be in the 40k universe? The only thing I can think of is Rick as a Blood Raven and Morty as a Scout Marine.

>>52148361
>Wulfen Leman Russ
I wish that wouldve been the ultimate twist from warzone fenris that magnus captured leman russ and mutated him into a wulfen creature and unleashed the wulfen onto fenris

File: Perty and Morty.png (734KB, 1062x625px) Image search: [Google]

734KB, 1062x625px

>>52148436
It's been done.

>>52148436
who cares

File: 1488332823829.jpg (81KB, 800x452px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 800x452px

So, out of the Necron Special Characters,
which is best and why? (crunchwise)
>inb4 Assholetep

>>52148425
No I mean it was even less than unsubstantiated, it was literally someone saying "wouldn't it be cool if.."

>>52148393
The leviathan doesn't lose much but taking a ranged weapon, and no people won't mind if you juse use a regular pod for it. I'm not even kidding when I say that the actual Lucius pod costs 4 times as much dollars, but its only 2mm taller in exchange.

On the off-hand, a storm cannon is necessary so he can kill something during his off-turn as he comes on the board, and then he can use it to kill a secondary target on turn 2 if you're good with positioning. You can tag 2 units at the same time with the heavy flamers, and shoot the one you aren't charging with the storm-cannon. This can score your leviathan 3 whole kills by turn 2.

>>52148457
Thanks mate.

>>52148395

And tell me how the Chaos and Imperium relationship currently is.

>>52148436
>Who would Rick and Morty be in the 40k universe?

A mad high Cryptek and a minor Necron Lord

A Homunculus and his wrack apprentice.

>>52148361
>Sanguinius

Just update the Sanguinor's model be Sangunius' spirit watching over his legion, give it Primarch-tier stats and rules and its done. You could even keep the mystery of the Sanguinor, maybe its not Sangunius but the BA's psychic gestalt made manifest.

I'd like to see the Khan being released by Vect as a last resort, like the Doom marine in Doom, they kept him locked up to never be released because they couldnt kill him and now Vect needs him to kill his enemies so he releases the Khan in the general direction of whatever is destroying Commorragh.

Dorn? The Fists are heading to Medrengaard apparently so maybe they release him from the clutches of the IWs who've been torturing him for millenia, put him in a Leviathan-sized Dreadnought.

File: 1475106274357.png (487KB, 525x641px) Image search: [Google]

487KB, 525x641px

>>52148379
>>52148361
Werewolf Russ and Ghost Rider Ferrus would seriously be hype as fuck, I'm not sorry.

File: 8th.png (863KB, 642x1168px) Image search: [Google]

863KB, 642x1168px

ITS FUCKING HAPPENING

>>52148469
>>52148425
Reporting in, that was me saying that Ferrus leading the LotD on a flaming Bike and headless would be fucking cool.

>>52148465
Imotekh. His lightning ability is broken.

File: Old friends.jpg (419KB, 1155x1611px) Image search: [Google]

419KB, 1155x1611px

>>52148421
BobbyG would be perfect negotiator between Eldar and Necrons, it was mentioned he was friend of Trazyn.

>>52148379

Thank god. Bringing back dead primarchs is lame af no Rowbout wasn't dead

>>52148495
I'd sacrifice my unborn son if GW released Jaghatai Khan as a character Grotesque for Dark Eldar.
It'd be a way for GW to have one primarch to "go traitor," but still retain the integrity of the White Scars.

File: 1455947569047.jpg (90KB, 542x512px) Image search: [Google]

90KB, 542x512px

>>52148411

>>52148395

Riiiight, until an entire fucking chapter defected to the forth.

File: assault cannons or bust.jpg (100KB, 900x636px) Image search: [Google]

100KB, 900x636px

only got a few responses cuz thread died,
thoughts?

>>52148523
The only 'dead' primarch returning I can accept would be Sanguinius, because they've been hinting at that for so long that it'd be dumb if nothing came of it.

>>52148539
Deathwatch suck shit
Don't bother

>>52148541
And yet that's one of the ones that would be the most irking because it basically renders his entire heroic sacrifice and the tragic affliction of the Blood Angels and their successors with the Black Rage completely fucking pointless.

>>52148541

You mean you don't wand Ferrus Manus as a headless horseman daemon of order leading a pack of legion of the damned bikers? Am I the only one who thought that was tight shit when it came up a few threads ago?

>>52148505
Alright, this guy checks out.

File: riptide wing.jpg (124KB, 900x762px) Image search: [Google]

124KB, 900x762px

dis is good for unbound right?

>>52148465
Orikan. Brings the best buffs and combat ability.

>>52148556
It'd be pretty sick, the rumor began when Atia hinting that the Legion might get something in the future and something like a headless giant walking among them or something.

>>52148556
I think a Necron Ferrus would be better, if only to act as a mockery to the Iron Hands. Not only that, but it would really, really piss off Fulgrim I bet.

>>52148587
why you gotta be hatin on my iron hands son?

>>52148587
>Tzeentch-changes Russ
>Necron Ferrus
>Dark Eldar Khan
I like where this pattern is going.

>>52148587
I see Ferrus better served as some kind of Skitarii cyborg that allows for remnants of his soul to posses.

>>52148597
It's not that I hate them, but I think it would be wonderfully ironic in all ways.

>>52148554
It's been ten thousand years, so I don't know if it'd be entirely pointless. And obviously if he's just 'Okay guys no more black rage/red thirst, you guys are all fine now. Btw I'm basically the same dude as I was before' I'll be pissed. There's a lot of wiggle room with how they advance the Blood Angels story, and maybe even having them semi-fall would be an interesting result of Sanguinius' return.

>>52148556
That would seriously be metal as all fuck, but I doubt GW would do it. Ferrus might return as a Necron hybrid or something though.

>>52148612
months ago I joked about Ferrus getting a bionic head

>>52148640
>silver-skulled Primarch Ghost Rider

White Scars eat your heart out

>Girlyman outwitted and captured by Kairos Fateweaver
>Girlyman clearly significantly weaker than Magnus. Was about to get killed but saved by Sisters of Silence who joined him in the battle against Magnus robbing the daemon primarch of his warp power forcing him to go melee only mode. Even then he didn't defeat Magnus but pushed him into a Webway gate
>didn't fight Skarbrand in a straight up fight

Justify this, /tg/.

If Russ was in his place he would have defeated all three foes with his hands tied behind his back

>>52148587
>>52148597
>>52148601
>>52148612
>>52148615
The Imperium can't win everything and get all their primarchs back and peachy. Flesh horror Khan, Necron Ferrus, Wulfenised Russ and Sanguinius as the Black Rage made manifest would be far more interesting.

Do Grey Knights serve in the Deathwatch?

>>52148664
No, they can serve alongside the DW but not in it.

>>52148661
>Justify this, /tg/.

Gathering Storm is just a big advertisement in campaign form, just like the weekly WD were.

You can verify this by seeing the ham-handed inclusion of Betrayal at Calth in Gathering Storm I.

>>52148661

Russ would've gone down even easier to Fateweaver. An empty chair could outsmart Russ.

>>52148663
More than interesting, it wouldn't undermine their sacrifices or roles in Heresy. Having them come back with radically different personalities and intrigues would be a kickass move.

>>52148663
Imperium gets Omegon. Turns the Inquisition into an even crazier institution.

>>52148691
>You can verify this by seeing the ham-handed inclusion of Betrayal at Calth in Gathering Storm I.

wat

>>52148661

Magnus lost to a dreadnought.

>>52148554
I'd find it interesting to not directly bring him back but instead just make it a Formation that represents his presence. Another Sanguinor/Golden Host deal, allowing you to immediately replace any model from the Formation with the Sanguinior if he dies and maybe give them a few extra rules as well. Maybe something that gives buffs whenever he dies.

It could represent Sanguinus himself actively supporting his sons and constantly trying to manifest in one of them. Buffing whenever a new Marine is "possessed" and one dies is also an easy analogy for his sacrifice.

>>52148695
Fateweaver used Girlyman's doubts and fears that he seeded in the primarch to fashion warp chains to bind him in his place.

This won't work on Russ since he loyalty is absolute.

>>52148661
Bad writing.
Nothing more, nothing less.

>>52148707
>I didn't read the books but I want to talk about them on /tg/

Par for course

>>52148713
>A shard Magnus lost to a dreadnought.

FiFY

>>52148728
You mean it wouldn't work on Lion because his loyalty is absolute. It wouldn't work on Russ because Russ is too foolhardy to know doubt.

>>52148661
In Girlyman's defense, he always was more of a strategist and thinker rather than a brawler.

>>52148704
Omegron goes to Tau. Just because it's the one thing absolutely nobody would expect

>>52148663

Just give me Vulkan and I'll be happy. I'm going to flip a fucking table if all the "Vulkan lives!" fluff turns out to be "lolno sorry!" while the Smurfs still get girlyman back.

>>52148661
>Even then he didn't defeat Magnus but pushed him into a Webway gate
Actually magnus was the one who did that. His panicked flailing after getting impaled on guilliman's flaming D sent him into the portal.

also he brought the bantz

I'd rather see Khan become THE master of the Deathwatch.
Dude loved killing Orks and Dark Eldar more than anything save for going fast and I can see his time in Commorragh (assuming this was the case) as reason for him to dedicate the remainder of his life to murderfuck xenos.

>>52148777
Pretty sure Vulkan literally can not be killed by anything from this plane of existence.

>>52148776
Turns out Alpharius was the Ethereals all along.

>>52148541
You forgot about the Lion. Who is sitting in stasis in a similar state to what Guilliman was in.

We'll see ol Morty and Lion-O before any other primarch, for sure.

>>52148777
Better get finding those relics then Salamander-kun.

>>52148776
Naw, dude. Omegon is Janus. Omegon is in the Omega Vault. Omegon's the adopted primach of the Grey Knights.

>>52148728
>Russ is too retarded to defeat with magic.
Checks out, brothers. Awooo!

>>52148815
The Lion isn't dead. Leading theory is that his consciousness was split from his body and is in his sword, which Cypher's lugging around. He needs the Emprah to fix him or some shit. Fitting in an Arthurian sense, but the Lion is alive but comatose.

>>52148806
Doesn't Trazyn have him frozen in time in his wacky museum?

>>52148815
Oh wait you said 'dead.' That's my bad. I sorta figured the living saints who are some sorta human waaagh generators would bring back a ghost sanguinis or some shit like that. Start pulling a mork-stomp but like a Sanguinis ghost-headbutt. Fuck, I don't know.

I really want to like the Ultramarines but I can't stop seeing the Omega symbol as a toilet seat.

>>52148825

Vulkan didn't train us in the way of puzzles, I can't figure that shit out.

>>52148839

I think it was hinted that that was the case, but not confirmed.

>>52148661
>If Russ was in his place he would have defeated all three foes with his hands tied behind his back
Except for the fact that, you know, the designers explicitly stated in the White Dwarf interview that had Russ come back first he would have charged off into battle somewhere and died and then the Imperium would have been double-fucked.

I want dorn to come back so the two capable primarchs can get shit done together again. Also so I can have a dorn model for 30k because FW doesn't want to make one.

>>52148839
that was a custode

Any clues on what the deal with Cypher's sword is? Bobby mentioned he recognized it, but I'm not familiar enough with the Horus Heresy lore to know if he's referring to something established already.

>It's just Cypher being fucking mysterious again isn't it?

>>52148806
>this plane of existence

So anything from the realm of Chaos would work? *rimshot*

File: c3926613898f70ec6fffe514f94fc839.jpg (918KB, 1280x1707px) Image search: [Google]

918KB, 1280x1707px

>>52148864
>Any clues on what the deal with Cypher's sword is?
why he's so wary of it, who knows

>>52148839
Trazyn has a lot of Space Marines in that thing, one of which had black skin and ancient artificer armor.

That doesn't mean it's Vulkan, but it does sound like it's some old Salamander higher-up.

>>52148837
That would be pretty cool, actually.

>>52148861
I wanted Dorn to stay dead.
I absolutely love Dorn and I think his sacrifice was superbly fitting for an absolute soldier.
I think if he came back he'd just constantly be sidelined by Guilliman and have his shit kicked in by Pert repeatedly.
They'd do him no justice that an honorable death can.

>>52148864
Cypher's Sword has always been The Lion's sword.

>>52148864

It's Lion's sword.

>>52148919
I'm digging this theory of the sword containing El'Jonson's soul.

>>52148874
Actually, yes. Something banishing him from this universe could most likely kill him.

Though not even GW is bad enough to kill off the hardest-to-kill Primarch of them all and one with so many hints of returning off-screen.

>>52148826
Omegon is going to be found once the Omega Vault opens and will have a conflict with a corrupted Corax. He's going to bring improved gene seed tech to the imperium and build upon the girlyman marines.

>>52148945
>Corax being the traitor
No. pls. no.

Just to catch people up, here are the Primarch's that are definitely coming back and will get models at some point:

Mortarion
Fulgrim
Angron
Leman Russ

Also we can safely bet on Lion. He hasn't been confirmed but I mean c'mon they aren't teasing him with Cypher and all this for nothing.

File: 148787697913518667.jpg (39KB, 493x366px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 493x366px

>>52148883
Guilliman just hates Lion.

>>52148980
>Mortarion
>Fulgrim
>Angron

These are totally obvious due to Magnus.

>>52148991
It's not about obvious it's about CONFIRMED by the leakers who straight up told us Magnus and Guilliman were coming and were right.

Also there are leaks of Morty floating about that I'm pretty sure are legit.

File: eldar corsair leaders.jpg (224KB, 774x1032px) Image search: [Google]

224KB, 774x1032px

Rate my Corsairs list pls (by which I mean is it too shit? too strong? wat do?)

CAD because fuck paying for Barons below 1250 points. All infantry are in 5-man units.

1000/1000

>Prince (125) - Jet Pack, Shadow Field, Void Sabre, Brace of Pistols, Seeker of Forbidden Pleasures

>Malevolent Band (120) - Jet Packs, Combat Drugs, 1x Melta Bomb

>Reaver Band (105) - Jet Packs, Felarch w/ CCW + Pistols, 2x Corsair w/ CCW + Pistols, 2x Flamers, Combat Drugs
>Reaver Band (125) - Jet Packs, Felarch w/ CCW + Pistols, 2x Corsair w/ CCW + Pistols, 2x Fusion Gun, Haywire Grenades
>Reaver Band (120) - Jet Packs, Felarch w/ Blast Pistol, 2x Corsair w/ CCW + Pistols, 2x Blaster

>Hornet (100) - 2x Pulse Laser, Void Burners, Kinetic Shroud
>Hornet (100) - 2x Pulse Laser, Void Burners, Kinetic Shroud

>Warp Hunter (205) - Void Burners, Kinetic Shroud

>>52148980
Based on GW teases over the years, especially recently, we can infer that the following primarchs will return also:

Vulkan, (possibly) Omegon, and Sanguinius (in some form).

>>52148991
>>52149020
I thought Fulgrim was rumored to be the next primarch?
Dude's pumped about his rematch with Bobby-G.

>>52148943
He died on his way back to his home planet.

>>52148315
Sorry, Kell died on Cadia.

RIP Kell. Protected Creed to the end.

>>52148991
Fulgrim was also already mentioned in Gathering Storm and Mortarion had that supposed model leak a while back and had the same rumormongers that first announced new Marine Marks also mention him and Plague Marines making a comeback.

>>52149041

SANGUINOR, AVATAR OF THE ANGEL

>>52148883
>Be Cypher
>Spend 10,000 years trying to give the Emperor his son's sword as a keepsake
>Fucking obtuse-ass Dark Angles got an acute case of being straight-up right bastards about it
>Finally strike a deal with a FUCKING PRIMARCH to get to the Emperor on Terra
>Fight bravely alongside Big Bobby G the whole way
>Finally make it to the throne room doors
>Emperor is going to be so stoked
>Get betrayed
>GAWD DAMMUT BOBBY

Since Cypher can break out of super mega prison, ignore walls, and is presumably still on Terra, is there anything stopping him from just waltzing into the throne room now?

>>52149042
My list was not in any particular order.

The next one is likely either Fulgrim or Morty. After that who knows. They might keep alternating traitor/loyal/traitor/loyal.

>>52149070
Motherfucking Custodes.

>>52149070
Gigantic golden doors with dozens of Custodes guards on the side he's coming from.

So no, not really.

File: 1485113929278.gif (297KB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]

297KB, 500x281px

>>52148197
Sisters. They can be challenging to use, but there's nothing quite like burning everything down in a storm of melta. mfw my opponents spend all game trying to kill celestine while I cap points

>>52149089
Cypher would wreck Custodes though. Fluffwise he's the one man army that gets shit done.

>>52149061
You know, since a lot of the traitors have rivals, who would become Mortarion's rival? Considering how Magnus has his Russ and Pert his Dorn

>>52148892
>sidelined by Guilliman and have his shit kicked in by Pert
They work together well, though. Guilliman's the idealist, Dorn's the pragmatist. They butt heads, but have a healthy respect for one another that's mirrored in their chapters. He'd be a good fit for the modern plotline and the whole "fixing the imperium's everything" bent, as opposed to guys like russ or lion-o who just want to hit things with their swords real hard.

The fists and their successors played a rather large role in the gathering storm books, too. Phalanx, the templars on cadia/ultramar, the fists showing up again on the moon..

>>52148987
Nah it's more the sword in particular. Maybe it got compromised in the years following the heresy. Or maybe he just thinks it's too dangerous in the hands of anyone but his bro.

File: pillar men custodes.jpg (114KB, 1262x705px) Image search: [Google]

114KB, 1262x705px

>>52149070
Yes.

>>52149116
The one dude everyone's forgetting about and isn't even a primarch, who globalled him pretty much effortlessly.

>>52149116
Sanguinius, because he was always so fucking fabulous and pretty while Mortarion was an old rotting fart his entire life.

>>52149114
Yeah, naw. Custodes are second only to primarchs in terms of raw power.

>>52149116
Anon, you're breaking my heart.

>>52149089
>>52149125
Presumably they couldn't stop him from jailbreaking though I suppose the Emperor's front porch would have some kind of super arcane bullshit that would at least give him pause.

>>52149116
Omegon since he MAY be the adopted primarch of the Grey Knights and Klador Draigo started some serious shit with Morty.

>>52149089

It took Cypher a couple of hours to break out a prison that no-one had ever broken out of before.

I'm relatively certain if he wanted to he could just stroll into the throne room and give Emps a high five if he felt like it.

>>52149142
BS10 motherfucker.

>>52149142
And not just Custodes, you have The Companions (the 300) who actually guard the throne itself, not the palace, and are probably more buff than the "average" custodes.

File: Dark Angels - 500pts.jpg (108KB, 900x510px) Image search: [Google]

108KB, 900x510px

I posted this list last night but didn't get any response

>>52149134
>who globalled him pretty much effortlessly.
>globalled
are you the wow poster who triggers all the people in /aosg/ every day?

>>52149173
Fluff doesn't translate on tabletop.

>>52149070
Custodes and at least one tiitan legion.

>>52149173
I'm sure the dudes in the throne room have vortex grenades, if you remember those.

>>52149184
>>52149196
Long time ago Inquisitor, callidus and squat managed to sneak through, although it was due to Emperor's stopping time power.

>>52149191

And neither does plot armour.

Which Cypher has in Tau-esque quantities.

>>52149117
It'd be interesting to see Dorn's reaction to the Templars still going strong.

>"Alright, I'm finally back in office. Vacation is nice, but I wonder how everything is going. Oh right, completely forgot about this Sigismund asshat and his Tantrum Marines. Wonder how many weeks their "eternal crusade" lasted, those stupid religious maniacs."
>"Wait, what do you mean they're a whole chapter now? HOW MANY fucking Marines are they shipping around?! Holy shit, where on Terra did my geneseed ever go so terribly, terribly wrong."

>>52149191
>>52149209
I'm mostly having a lark lads, but honestly Cypher's fluff accomplishments are raw bullshit and just having a chat with the Emperor's body would probably not be too difficult for him.

does anybody save warhammer tv livestreams?

>>52148425
>Fuck, was it unsubstantiated?
>It's the most bitchin' idea for Ferrus' return to not be wasted.

There was a scene in Master of Mankind that sort of suggested such a thing may be possible.

Shapes raged in the flames – shadows and suggestions doing battle with the daemons, their fiery forms indistinct and ever-changing. The fire-born avatars of fallen Ten Thousand, knee-deep in psychic fire and thrusting with lances of flame. The silhouettes of Space Marines, the betrayed dead of Isstvan bearing axes and blades and claws; half-seen sigils of slaughtered Legions obscured by the ash of their blackened armour. A giant among giants, its great hands bared and ready as it seared forwards at the crest of the tidal fire. The tenth son of a dying empire, so briefly reborn in his father’s immolating wrath.

>>52148851
>I really want to like the Ultramarines but I can't stop seeing the Omega symbol as a toilet seat.

How many times have you copypasted this?

>>52148851
Why are you so fixated on shitting, anon?

>>52149155

Him breaking out does not imply that the Custodes didn't try to stop him. It could be Harlequin shenanigans again, or Cypher has made very special friends.

He did fuck over the rest of his Fallen brethren though, who will squeal about everything to every interested organization on Terra.

>>52149227
Haha, I know, I just wanted to mention vortex grenades because I am old enough to have played when those were a thing.

>>52149270
They'll be Black Shields in the Deathwatch in no time. I doubt the Dark Angels have as many friends on Terra as the Inquisition.

>>52149237
>sort of

That excerpt literally translates to "The tenth Primarch of the Imperium". It's not even trying to be subtle.


He has no bike, so fuck everything.

File: IMG_3184.jpg (256KB, 1008x720px) Image search: [Google]

256KB, 1008x720px

>>52148648

Fine fine, I get it. I'll still be using nurgle for my main infantry though probably. What's best for fast attack?

>>52149276
The only thing close is the Ordinatus gun that kills everything in a line with no defensive measures allowed. Fun times.

>>52149302
Daemonettes and various slaaneshi shit.

>>52149255
>How many times have you copypasted this?

I lost count six months ago, at around a thousand. It's my life's work.

File: 1294867626355.jpg (122KB, 876x627px) Image search: [Google]

122KB, 876x627px

>>52148197
5th edition Grey Hunters, literally the most flexible unit the game.

10 kitted out Grey Hunters in a rhino parked in the middle of the board exerted so much control it was a thing of beauty.

>>52149316
You honour us all with your dedication, shitposter-kun.

>want to play strong and fluffy Black Templars list
>strongest fluff friendly variant available needs 420 points of non-BT models worth around 100 bucks

The Crusading life sucks.

>>52149309
Someone please post that art of that gun firing. It was some of the most visceral impacting art I've ever seen in terms of feeling the massive scope of destruction.

>>52148661
>>Girlyman outwitted and captured by Kairos Fateweaver

After being literally thrown into the warp by Magnus and tormented and driven insane for eternity. And Guilliman still makes it out.

>>52149345
>420 points
What?

File: 1489384180084.jpg (2MB, 3742x2858px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 3742x2858px

Finally built everything thus far in two days. Time to heavily clean and base everything. Next up is a Razoback and Rhino.

>>52149345
>thinks 100 bucks is a lot

And you guys try to claim you aren't poor.

File: 1365065418148.png (2MB, 981x1200px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 981x1200px

I was wanting to make an all suit (crisis, stealth, ect) Tau army like the earlier Farsight book allowed. Is that still possible in the current edition and if so where are the rules for it? I'm guessing if there is it is the Mon'ka campaign book but not sure.

>>52149309
I remember that thing from Epic but I had no idea FW made a 30k/40k scale one. Hahaha, holy shit, I should pay more attention.

>>52149345
I also just realised that they don't allow an Emp Champ in place of the Captain because that's meant to be Amalrich and the Crusade was without Emp Champ for the longest, just for Amalrich to then turn into the Champ himself, which would crunch wise literally just replace his fucking Captain model with an Emperor's Champion.

>>52149349
My local has one that gets used as a campaign objective sometimes and can be fired by the occupying player. There's also the really big game board we have that's just a gigantic kitbashed ordinatus majoris cannon that fills basically the entire store. Manchester GW is a fucking great store for that shit, they have true scale Imperators that come up to my shoulders, and I'm pretty tall.

>>52149367
My favorite dude is the one in the bottom left who I am going to call the Mohawk Mauler.

>>52149364
Celestine 200
Greyfax 150
Scions 70

>>52149376
100 bucks for models not from my faction or army that I will only ever use in that exact formation is a lot.

>>52149382
You guessed right, and it still works roughly the same. I believe the only difference is they got rid of the minimum 3 suit requirment on crisis troop squads

>>52149382
Tau whores are so ugly.

>>52149224

>Which Cypher has in Tau-esque quantities.

So he has less than the average marine?

>>52149436
Tell that to Marshal Amalrich.

>>52149409
Or just use Celestine? Well I guess if you're buying the Triumvirate for her you can throw in Greyfax.

File: Malcador_Defender.jpg (87KB, 800x680px) Image search: [Google]

87KB, 800x680px

>>52148197
A Malcador defender. Now now, before you think I am a LoW fag, keep in mind the defender has 7 Heavy Bolters, counting the sponsors. And A Demo Cannon. Now if that isn't fun then idk what is, and it's always great to see people's reaction when they find out, yet this thing exists. And it breaks up the slug of fighting my renegades.

Pic very related

>>52149436
Tau have the greatest quantity of undeserved plot armour in the entire setting, where have you been?

>>52149376
I exclusively play 30k in my weekend loft in SoHo, from my red velvet bergere in a room fully furnished in mahogany.

File: 1388685449008.jpg (24KB, 437x484px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 437x484px

>>52149412

Thanks

>>52149455
>just use Celestine
You are aware that the formation requires Greyfax, Celestine and a Scions Platoon as minimum units?

>>52149462
>tfw can't use these things in 30k for some odd reason
Why

>>52149469

Oh really? Did a Tau sergeant defeat Nightbringer with a grenade or a Greater Daemon with a combat knife? Did a squad of Tau kill tens of thousands of Deldar on their own turf? Have Tau punched the Greatest Bloodthirster ever seen in realspace to death? Strangled any Avatars recently?

Oh wait, a commander no scoped a single marine. Man, what a mary sue!

>>52149385
>I also just realised that they don't allow an Emp Champ
so don't use the formation

that was fuckin' hard

File: image.jpg (206KB, 747x839px) Image search: [Google]

206KB, 747x839px

>>52148570
Stop

Could I take an endless amount of ally CSM detachments and make them all different Legions?

>>52149507
Oh, why are you running the shitty Formation instead of using the Castellans Detachment?

>>52149117
>>52149225
I love how Dorn hated Sigismund and the Templars for their failure. I also love how they retconned the BT numbers to be 1,000 marines. It might now be a popular opinion, but they really should have done the retcon in an in-universe way, maybe have an ultimatum made, either split or be destroyed, rather than just a flat, they're 1k dudes and always have been.

>>52149533
Oh right, forgot that complaining about stupid GW decisions is a big no-no. Who am I to expect the first ever formation for my dudes to not require other factions, excuse my insolence.

The death of the emps, and the rise of gulliman is the death of grim-dark, and the rise of noble-dark (along with hard core 14 year olds)

this franchise is fucked, admit it. Where are you guys going to? Infinity? Warmahordes? X-wing?

>>52149567
You have a Detachment in the same fucking book that is better with less restrictions, take it.

>>52149580
Emps ain't dead, Anon.

>>52149580
It's not that bad, Chicken Little.

>>52149580
Nowhere because I actually am quite interested to see where this goes.

>>52149580
>Infinity? Warmahordes? X-wing?
I'll just write my own ruleset instead of playing shittier settings with shittier models.

X-Wing might have been fun if Star Wars fans weren't the cringiest most autistic fanbase of any franchise ever.

>>52149556
I would run it because the formation bonus itself is way better than running something similar in Castellans. I'd rather have Zealot, re-rollable charges and Furious Charge than a 30% respawn chance and only Hatred.

If it weren't for that stupid fucking tax.

>>52149185
>I posted this list last night but didn't get any response
still nothing? is my list just that bad?

>>52149566
I won't accept that retcon as official until it's mentioned literally anywhere else outside that one book from 6e.

File: 99550101526_PlasmaHeavyWeaponUpgrade03.jpg (40KB, 600x620px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 600x620px

With the release of the new plastic MKIII marines I was thinking of converting some into long fangs armed with these beauties from forgeworld, for the whole long fang "ancient" thing

How viable would a squad with 4 plasma cannons be? Maxxed out with 6 plasma cannons? As many as you can take in a razorback?

>>52149517
Right? I don't get it, and I was annoyed when I looked at the militia and cults book. Friend will let you use it still though, at least mine would.

>>52149618
People don't really care about 500 points lists, usually.

>>52149567
>stupid GW decisions
I'm sorry the narrative formation is based around the forces present during said narrative and not your personal dream-army. Clearly GW just hates you personally.

>>52149600
IDK, how hard core you like your 14 year olds? Mtn Dew? Death Metal? CoD?

They're even producing larger size gullimarines to adapt to their shitty painting skills. Next up is either pre-painted or colour moulded marines, mark my words.

Again, infinity, warmahordes, or x-wing?

File: 137B6472-6C1D-404C-A8A6-63D4DB1CA84F-5044-00001257AF5E2E11_tmp.jpg (210KB, 480x650px) Image search: [Google]

210KB, 480x650px

>>52148776

>>52149671
That would be a valid excuse if they at least then went the distance and actually had the formation as what was present and advertised: a formation to combine the Sisters of Battle and the Black Templars instead of a single Sister of Battle, an Inquisitor, her bodyguard and Black Templars.

>>52149605
>tax

But Celestine is awesome.

And you can use her as an HQ in in any imperium CAD

>>52149185
I don't play AoS. I just like to use the term.

>>52149580
infinity most likely. Keeps the sci-fi theme, with better models, and better rules.

warmahordes is just too ugly, and steampunk is cancer.

x-wing has a great ruleset, but is space-craft combat, and the rules are not crunchy enough.

>>52149629
That much Plasma might be somewhat Risky. I don't think Long Fangs get any sort of re-roll.

I think you would do better work with Lascannons, as the extra range and stength will make up for the lack of blasts.

That said, I believe there is that one fortification that upgrades the size of a tempate on Blast weapons. 4+ Large blast plasma cannons will absolutely murder anything.

>>52149728
Doesn't that 'new' generator building remove Gets Hot or something and some other Plasma buffs?
He could give that a try.

>>52149748
It makes Gets Hot worse, actually.

War Convocation removes Gets Hot, and thats AdMech only.

>>52149711
What the fuck does that even mean?

>>52149706
Sure, Celestine is a good unit, but I'd rather have those points available for things I want to spend them on. 3 HQ units is way too many for my tastes and really limits what to give as Wargear when trying to get the Zealot bonus.

And I honestly don't see myself ever using her for any random CAD. My meta is literally 30% Orks, 20% Tyranids and various kinds of Space Marines and not WAAC enough that the Ork or Nids lists could really compete with her at all.

so for a daemonhunter strike force what should i be bringing? i'm leaning towards interceptor squad because mobility, and falchions because two attacks, but i prefer how the bigass swords look.

>>52149763
Huh, thought there was some building to help with that. Must've misunderstood something or just have a foggy memory.

>>52149566
>Dorn and Sigismund hated the Templars

Source? I've never heard about this before now.

Just lurked. But whoa whoa whoa. When and how did guilleman return??? And good reads?

>>52149793
Falchions *are* bigass swords. Just use the bigass swords and call them falchions.

>>52149805
Where have you been for the last month?

>>52149805
>when
About a month ago it was announced.
>how
An old admech guy did it, he hangs out with an old inquisitor and a living saint.

>>52149774
MMOs often have limiters on skill activation. Even abilities with no listed cooldown have a cooldown of 1.5 (sometimes 1) second, which is called the global cooldown. To kill someone with a single skill is 'globalling'. Usually just applies to an incredibly fast kill in PvP.

>>52149797
You might be thinking of the Manufactorum, which lets models re-roll failed saves against Gets Hot! wounds.

That, plus an Ammo dump to re-roll 1s makes Plasma quite safe to use.

File: skit1850.jpg (204KB, 900x895px) Image search: [Google]

204KB, 900x895px

r8

>>52149805
A 10,000 year old Ad Mech Arch-Magos and an Eldar Death-witch brought him back through the twin arts of Necromancy and High Technology.

File: monster_zero_ultra_energy_drink.jpg (43KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 600x600px

>>52149728
looked up the rules, any model with a plasma gun within 2" gains blast, if it already has blast it becomes large blast, doing this makes it gets hot on a 1 AND a 2.

I'm doing it, but because I'm a cheapskate I'll be using cans of monster energy as proxies for the reactors to test out the rules

pic very related

>>52149803
AFAIK only Dorn had a disdain for them because of their fanatical zeal. Never heard of Sigismund also hating his bois.

>>52149803
Dorn hated Sigismund due to the fact that he listened to a witch and decided to ditch a battle that would have ended up with him dead. The man who took his place as commander was one of Dorn's favorite sons, who died in his stead, as predicted. As punishment, Sigismund was no longer officially an Imperial Fist, but the Emperor's Champion, which is why he was no longer allowed to wear the yellow of the Imperial Fists.

>>52149875
they're pretty cheap and also double as generic terrain, though

>>52148806
The Cabal had a spear that could kill him but Grammaticus got cold feet.

>>52149875
EMPEROR BLESS THESE SIPS

>>52149875
Proxies for testing is fine, but if you end up liking them buy the real ones, don't be the jackass that uses drink cans as proxies all the time.

>>52149875
It's certainly a high-risk high-reward strategy, but AP 2 large blasts will kill a lot of stuff.

Try and find a way to get them re-rolls of some kind if you can, or failing that, a way to better save the wounds.

>>52149884
Where can I read up on this?
Just on a wiki? I might have missed it.

>>52149803
>Dorn and Sigismund
No, anon said Dorn hated Sigismund and the Templars

>>52149906
he could use a librarian with divination

>>52149922
Whoops, I misread that.
I should probably get some sleep.

>>52149912
Iirc, it's the HH book that introduced Sigismund, can't remember it's name.

Orks and Nids should be fucking removed from the game.

>>52149946
They're really just NPC factions.

File: Death Tours of Krieg.jpg (179KB, 735x1087px) Image search: [Google]

179KB, 735x1087px

My headcanon now includes a DKK regiment who serve in the penance crusade, while secretly taking photos and looking at deployment as an endless holiday.

Successive individual clones are the closest thing to ancestry they have, as they try to "see neater things" between lives and add to their "family albums."

File: 079bb642d9acc33e1a9dd962fa98f75e46b67ecd3f66b667c4dfa957489bffc1.jpg (14KB, 337x372px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 337x372px

>>52148155
>2 lost chapters were IG and the Silent Sisterhood
>The Primarchs were Solar Macharius and Jenetia Krole

>>52149811
It's really a question of balance and design as much as actual size. They were frequently about the same weight as other swords in use at the time, and ranged from relatively smaller examples on up to largish ones, although larger swords balanced in different ways obviously existed.

There are some pretty fair sized swords you can cut and thrust with, for instance. A lot of the potential muscle or threat in some of these comes from the thrust and half swording them, too.

That being said, there was always a definite call for a good old plain workmanlike pattern of sword focused highly on "yep, I'm going to chop and slash with this fucker. This is what it is for.". Many where not particularly well made or well balanced, and this was reflected in the price. Not all of course. There are swords of this sort that were clearly made for wealthier buyers, and they are quite well balanced as a principally cutting and chopping sword. They are garbage at thrusting.

Unappealing if you intended to use your sword as a sidearm to fight other heavily armed dudes because no point to look for gaps, but you could also beat them harder. Also chop up less well armored dudes better. If all you expected was to be using the sword to chop up "Not Nobles" or heathens, this would make sense. It would be a better choice, actually.

>>52149946
>Orks should be fixed and Nids given a better storyline.

There, fixed it for you anon

>>52149946
No. You Tau and Eldar fag lords should be removed from the gene pool.

>>52149946
>The two factions that highlight everything anyone gets into this shitty game for should be removed
What are you, fucking gay?

>>52149995
>it's the forgeworld of bumfuckus nowhere
>Orks have overrun the forgeworld, the Skitarii are desperately trying to stop them with their rad-cleansers
>heavily mutated Orks now slaughter the local pdf and skitarii, while the world becomes an irradiated hellhole
>finally a relief force arrives, it's the Death Korps of Krieg
>after months of brutal trench warfare, gas attacks and widespread use of phosphex the orks are finally driven back
>"You know Nr. 4625256732465767844256, that was a really nice vacation, but I wonder when the Lord Commander sends us to a battle."

>>52149995
>And then some civilians were touching faces.
>But I was ordered not purge civilians.
>So I left

>>52150130

The entire regiment wears Hawaiian shorts instead of trousers, but shows no other outward sign of friviolity. Everyone assumes it's some weird uniform native to their planet.

File: RK.jpg (155KB, 900x683px) Image search: [Google]

155KB, 900x683px

Should I just flesh out the daemons to make a CAD? Where should I go from here

>>52148353

Black Templars never really occurred to me as the types to play politics within their own Chapter. In fact I can't think of any Chapter off the top of my head where that would happen outside of it being hinted in Fall of Damnos that Agemman may be bypassed for Sicarius.

>>52148859
>falling for Matt Ward propaganda
Spot the newfag

>>52150206
The newfag is the guy who thinks Matt Ward had anything to do with Gathering Storm.

He hasn't worked for GW for years and the actual writers were named in the fucking article you retard.

File: 1457568258866.jpg (41KB, 550x512px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 550x512px

>>52149360
>After being literally thrown into the warp by Magnus and tormented and driven insane for eternity. And Guilliman still makes it out.
>Your millennia long pain will never be comforted by prophetess of Ynnead
>harlequin lady will never guide you from pandemonium

File: 1475586045773.jpg (53KB, 626x551px) Image search: [Google]

53KB, 626x551px

>>52150244
They brought him back on.

File: CDCAD.jpg (130KB, 900x579px) Image search: [Google]

130KB, 900x579px

>>52150173
Can really only see something like this as an alternative if I want 3 knights

>>52150262
Is this for some WAAC tournament?

>>52148691

While the Ultramarines in Fall of Cadia didn't seem that bad, in fact I didn't make the Calth connection until now, I'm not super thrilled with how some stuff is basically written to advertise the newest models or at least the newest ones that fit the situation.

>>52150090
>liking npc races
Lamo

>>52148321
Do you think they are fun to play against?

>>52150258
Their release pipeline literally takes over a year to get anything out. Everything we're seeing now was done prior to this time in 2016.

>>52150168
>Playing Volleyball during Artillery barrages

File: cFoHq1o.gif (495KB, 464x262px) Image search: [Google]

495KB, 464x262px

>not playing Imperium or Chaos
Why even bother with 40k? This game isn't about you.

Are non-Ultramarine SM armies able to use Guilliman?

File: 1469383722355.png (1003KB, 1011x713px) Image search: [Google]

1003KB, 1011x713px

>>52149309
The Mars?

>>52150363
He's a LoW for any Armies of the Imperium

File: CSMRK.jpg (178KB, 900x753px) Image search: [Google]

178KB, 900x753px

>>52150265
Nah it's not I'm just in love with knights and their customization possibilities

I guess there's this too but I don't think it's as effective

>>52149676
Don't worry, kid. All will be fine. Just buy more Space Marines.

>>52150363
Grand Master Voldus and Roboute Guilliman are new Army List Entries that can be included in any Armies of the Imperium Detachment, regardless of their Faction.

>>52150324
>playing Imperium or Chaos
Why not stay in your containment game?

So, is the deal between Cawl and Yvraine the deal that was mentioned to take place in the dark depths of Commorragh?

>>52150437
No, Cawl spent all of his time in Mars until recently.

The deal was struck by the admech of another Firgeworld.

>>52150453
Do we have any idea what that deal entails?

>>52150462
Nah.

>>52150437
>Commoragh get overwhelmed by demon and is now run by mandrake and some heamonculi.I don't think any deal can be made there (yes i knew about this "deal", the admech go to Commoragh after the Emp Throne got some hiccup)

>Yvraine is the one who brought doom to Commoragh and also most wanted by most folk there, don't think she would return there any time soon.

Is Lion El'Jonson really that likely to come to life on the tabletop if the latest release features another model with his signature sword?

>>52150500
No.

>>52150486
Commorragh still exists, it's just that large swathes are under siege by daemons or Tyranids.
Additionally, Vect and Rakarth made an incredible amount of contingency plans should Commorragh fall.

>>52148171
How is the marshal and the inquisitor represented in the books because this sounds unlikely with what I know.

>>52150513
>muh waifu is pure please stop drawing her having sex with other ponies

>>52150500
sure, he can just use luther's sword

>>52149020
>Also there are leaks of Morty floating about that I'm pretty sure are legit.
No, they aren't

>>52150511
Commoragh never go anywhere, it just run by Mandrake now. The one sub-realm Vect run back to and rebuild can hardly be considered Commoragh anymore, more like Neo-Commoragh. Also wouldn't make any sense if Vect new sub-realm got discovered by the Admech like that.

>>52150562
Proof? It's clearly not a conversion considering at least one of the pictures is a CAD render and none of the parts can be sourced to existing models, and we already have confirmation that there IS a Mortarion model on the way which means unless it's coming out in 2018 they've already started on it.

>>52150577
Do you not understand how the burden of proof works?

>>52148155
I just want to take a moment to emphasise how beautiful this image is

>>52150587
When there is overwhelming evidence something is legitimate it's then on you to prove that it isn't.

There's far more evidence that the Mortarion pics are real than not. The only people saying otherwise are the same fags who vehemently deny any leaks or rumours ever even when they're obviously real because they're incapable of telling apart legit stuff from false.

>>52150597
not the proof guy but I'm curious what the pictures look like so can you post them?

File: mortarion leak.jpg (81KB, 1200x511px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 1200x511px

>>52150616
This one. It's been around for a couple weeks. At first people were saying it was just a conversion, but then they traced back the source to the Russian board where it first appeared and no one was actually claiming it as a conversion, to the contrary it was an artist saying he got these pics as references for drawing art for an upcoming GW release.

The 4th pic is pretty obviously a computer render - who the hell has time to fake that?

>>52150592

I didn't care for it at first, but it looks a lot better in that resolution.

File: Untitled.png (145KB, 863x562px) Image search: [Google]

145KB, 863x562px

>>52150191
>I can't think of any Chapter off the top of my head where that would happen outside of it being hinted in Fall of Damnos that Agemman may be bypassed for Sicarius
Pretty much everything we see about Agemman himself says he doesn't really care about that, though. The first company as a whole doesn't really seem to do the whole politics thing, more focused on just getting the job done.

Maybe it's just because they haven't had many novels centered on them.

>>52149875

If only Kustom Mega Kannons counted as Plasma weapons.

Str 8 Ap2 large blast with Grots spontaneously combusting 1/3rd of the time sounds hilariously awesome.

>>52149856
Vanguard Squad #2 doesn't need an Arc Pistol. If you manage to get him within 12" of an enemy vehicle when you already have 3 Haywire and 3 Armorbane weapons on the table, something fucky's going on. Instead, give your Infiltrators an Infoslave Skull (Acute Senses) then Outflank them. They can come up on whichever side of the board needs a helping hand when they come in.

Two knights are unnecessary. Drop the Crusader and beef up your Skitarii with some onagers. You can pick up two Onager Dunecrawlers with Neutron Lasers (48" S10 AP1 Blast) and Cognis Manipulators (IWND) and a third Onager with an Icarus Array/Cognis Manipulator (because fuck, bro. you need some anti-air) for only 430 points. Your Cerastus Knight can still be a Distraction Carnifex while your Infiltrators and Coteaz get into range and fuck shit up.

As list currently stands, solid 4/10. You need some anti-air, or you'll be forced to watch your army be left with a flyer in its side constantly killing models with no threat of being shot down.

>>52150638
I honestly thought you were referring to that time people posted third party mortarion and claimed it was the leak of the real deal

I completely missed morty's thumbnails, on second thought you may be right

>>52150638

> - who the hell has time to fake that?

Remember when the next edition of 40K leaked onto the net, and it turned out to be an elaborate forgery?

Someone wrote an entire goddamn fake rulebook. I could easily imagine some autist making a CAD render of a daemon as a side project.

Not saying it IS fake, but never underestimate autism.

>>52150405
So despite the Castellans of The Imperium detachment being released prior to Guilliman, would I be able to take him as a LoW in that detachment?

>>52150706
Just hoping he'll actually be good with his legion instead fo competing with them for resources.

If he's anything like mangus he'll probably be taking away FNP from nearby DG to bolster his own....

>>52150674
If I go that with the one knight do I still keep the coteaz configuration with the anti-drop pod unit?
Do you think it'd be more beneficial to go with one renegade knight with double avenger gatling cannons with a daemon CAD and CSM allies with a fire raptor?

>>52150191
>Black Templars never really occurred to me as the types to play politics within their own Chapter.

I would say they are the most political, they vote to see who will be promoted to Marshall and High Marshall with at least one instance of such promotion being denied and the fact that crusades are formed on familiarity rather than organization.

>>52150719
I remember, I remember being super excited for those rules actually. They turned out to be better than the real thing... well, maybe. Can't say for sure since I never played with them, but they looked better than what we have now.

>>52150760

I wonder if I still have the old pdf floating around. I agree; they did seem genuinely better than what we got.

>>52150729
Death Guard have always received the most OP rules in 40k of the Traitor Legions. He'll probably be fucking disgusting no pun intended

>>52150751
>>52150674
And to be fair I could just have a much better Renegades and Heretics rapier laser heavy CAD with plague zombies, allied kairos and then heralds anarchic formation but the webapp roster creator hates R&H players

>>52150729
by the time he gets released 41k will have moved to the new AoS-like ruleset, resources management is not part of it

>>52148661
>Girlyman outwitted and captured by Kairos Fateweaver
It would have been even easier to piss off russ and send him on a blind rage that sees him eventually get killed, or at least removes him as an effective commander/uniter of the imperium. All Fateweaver has to bring up is the fact that he got played like a fool by Horus and that he's just as much a pawn of tzeentch as Magnus was. Or the fact that he failed to show up to terra in time, or that his chapters hopes for new groundings were crushed by a shard of Magnus, or that him running away to the warp actually hurt the space wolves/imperium more than it benefitted them, or that he never really felt like he belonged on fenris and wanted to leave.

>Magnus needing HAX warp powers to defeat his significantly smaller and weaker brother
>Loses as soon as this advantage is gone
This is supposed to make guilliman look bad how?

>didn't fight skarbrand straight up
He didn't sacrifice himself in a pointless fight that would have left his crusade leaderless and the imperials utterly fucked. Only weeb "muh honor" faggots think it's a good idea to get into a fight you aren't almost certain to win, especially when you have people counting on you and there are other ways to win. He also managed to fight off Skarbrands murderous influence with sheer force of will alone. Russ would have embraced it instead and would probably die right there

I've been told Magnus brought the bantz in his face-off with Guilliman. Anyone want to post the fluff pages where they interacted so we can see if this is true?

>>52150844
download the epub

It was guilliman who brought the bantz, though. Magnus got butthurt about it.

Allegiances

Imperium of Man: Imperial Guards, Imperial Knights, Space Marines, Admech, Skiitari, Sisters, Custodes, Grey Knights, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Black Templar, Legion of the Damned, Ordo Assassins, Inquisitors, Deathwatch *NEW FACTIONS*: Ultramarines (Imperial Fists become the posterboys for SM codex), White Scars, Death Korps of Krieg

Aeldari: Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Ynarri *NEW FACTIONS:* Corsairs and Exodites, more Eldars coming soon

Xenos: Tau, Orks, Tyranids, Genestealer Cult, Necrons *NEW FACTIONS:* Kroots, Snakebites Klan, Lictors, Pariahs (yes, tons of sub-factions)

Chaos: Khorne (World Eaters), Nurgle (Death Guard), Slaanesh (Emperor's Children), Tzeentch (Thousand Sons), Chaos Space Marines, Daemons of Chaos *NEW FACTIONS*: Abaddon's Black Legion (CSM posterboys are now the World Bearers), Chaos Eldar, Iron Warriors, Night Lords, Chaos Squats


Which alliance will you choose?

>>52150844
>>52150854
White guy here, what the fuck are bantz?

File: 99560108145_MechanicumOrdinatusUlator_01.jpg (41KB, 600x620px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 600x620px

>>52150369
The Minoris Ulator.
A full size Ordinatus Mars would have enough ear-rape to drown out the combined screeching of all the CoD autists, past, present and future.

>>52150872
>CSM posterboys are now the Word Bearers
FINALLY.

FINALLY.

FINALLY.

FINALLY.

FINALLY.

>>52150872
None.
It's still as fucking retarded as the first time it was presented.

Don't become no-life Night-Lorder.

>>52150874
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bants

>>52150878
>A full size Ordinatus Mars
I thought all Ordinaus were a The

File: ohyou.png (247KB, 496x372px) Image search: [Google]

247KB, 496x372px

>>52150872
>picking juit one
pfff pleb
t.Alpha legion

>>52150892
Oh fo sheezoola tobogoole shizzle shaznizzle

>>52150874
>American here, what the fuck are bantz?
FTFY
Bantz are British m8, not urban

>>52150905
I'm happy I could help you, my negro friend.

File: 275.png (76KB, 1107x721px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 1107x721px

>>52150872

A Space Marines force which uses this Chapter Tactic may only
ally or be allied with other Imperial armies, and in all cases
their relationship is that of Desperate Allies (see page 112 of
the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook).

These are the only codices that are necessary for this game. Discuss:

Space Marines
Imperial Guard
Inquisition
Adeptus Mechanicus

Chaos Space Marines
Chaos Daemons

Eldar
Orks
Tyranids
Dark Eldar
Necrons
Tau Empire

>>52150872
>Lictors as a separate sub-faction
>Lictors getting fucking anything good, ever
I will eat my fucking nid Codex in a livestream if this is true. This is such fucking bullshi-

>Chaos Squats

Oh, it's a joke post.

>>52150369
THERE IT IS, THATS THE PIC I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

Fukken saved.

>>52150935
Yes, but they'd all have to be huge fucking Codexes unless supplements are still a thing.

>>52150934
They change it in 8E.

>>52150948
F U C K I N G G O O D
End the bloat.

>>52150872
I wouldn't really mind this, with the exception of the "Xenos" section. It would be fine if it's jsut a way of organizing factions into general categories for newcomers, but if Tyranids can be BB with, well, any of those factions that'll be stupid.

As much as I wouldn't really be bothered by this, a few things make me seriously doubt it.

1. Black Templars being separate from the SM codex. No way GW would give us any love or attention like that.

2. White Scars being a distinct faction separate from the SM 'dex. It's possible I suppose, seeing as GS III hints at a campaign on Chogoris.

3. Chaos Eldar and Chaos squats. Night Lords being their own thing seems really iffy too. Iron Warriors makes more sense because they have a Daemon-Primarch, but the NL's primarch is dead

>>52150935

Game did find without Mechanicus for over 30 years.

Inquisition on its own? Lol. You can basically have Space Marines, and non-marine Imperium to roll Inq and IG. Mech for 3rd Imperium faction if you want.

Chaos started off as one single codex.

Splitting DE and Craftworld when Ynnari is a thing? Lol.

Just fucking do Imperium, Chaos, and Xenos.

>>52150844

Guilliman's "batnz" amounted to "no ur stoopid".

File: autism.jpg (527KB, 4000x2144px) Image search: [Google]

527KB, 4000x2144px

>>52148155
THE SHOULDER IS WRONG!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

File: 1442062153600.gif (2MB, 400x226px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 400x226px

>>52150872
>this will never become true

>>52150967
Game may have done fine without AdMech but I feel that their introduction as a playable faction is one of the cooler developments in the game. They've always been prominent in the fluff, and are an interesting organization. It's a wonder they weren't an army sooner.

>>52150967
>Game did find without Mechanicus for over 30 years.
Which was a huge fucking mistake, they deserved their own book long before shit like Sisters and Scions got stuff.

>Inquisition on its own? Lol.
I assume other anon figures that would cover Assassins, Grey Knights, Sisters, and all the misc. Imperial Agents stuff, which is totally fine.

>Chaos started off as one single codex.
Splitting Daemons and CSM was also a good move.

>Splitting DE and Craftworld when Ynnari is a thing? Lol.
They're completely different Factions.

>Just fucking do Imperium, Chaos, and Xenos.
>Just lump Eldar, Necrons, and Tyranids all in the same group hurrrrr
I can't believe people as retarded as you exist.

>>52150872

Grand Alliance of Order:
- Adeptus Astartes
- Adeptus Mechanicus
- Forces of the Imperium (IG/MT/Inq/SoB)

Forces of Chaos:
- Chaos Space Marines
- Daemon
- Renegades and Heretics

Ancient Rulers:
- Necrons (cannot ally Eldar)
- Eldar (cannot ally Necrons)
- Dark Eldar

Uncultured Savages:
- Tyranids
- Orks
- Tau Empire