How does one fight monsters without becoming a monster themselves?

>>52144809
Be a monster in the first place.

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>>52144809
Using the other monsters to fight for you?

>>52144809

Don't touch the monster's fluids in case it's one of the contagious ones.

Use a long spear or halberd to keep them from scratching or biting you if its one of them lycanthropic ones.

Burn the monster's remains entirely, preferably somewhere with a seperate air supply from what ever location you are in when the body is being burned.

Don't use monster parts.

Don't use polymorph self.

Don't be a wild shape druid.

Don't drink polymorph potions.

Don't fuck monsters.

>>52144809
By using diplomacy.

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>>52144866
This and that, hmm, nice, that's all really simple and intuitive... should be easy to follow and stay safe.

>last point

>>52144883
If you can negotiate with it, it probably was never really a monster in the first place

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>>52144809
By only attacking monsters and not innocent peasants?

Its not hard, you city-slicking merchant. Maybe put down your Aristotle scroll and pick up a damn sword?

>>52144912
>Do monster girls count?-/tg/
>>52144939
Is that so? Monsters are the most likely to negotiate, since they want to gain even more easily. And when you throw in how monsters are hunted, well now they definitely want to negotiate.

>>52144809
By always remembering what makes you human and not straying from the path of humanity.

>>52144809
Why would you not want to be a monster?

You can kill monsters much better that way.

Does anyone have that one cartoon about the dude being taken away by bug things into this weird hive thing in the center of the earth, where he would be feasted upon each day, and dumped into a vat to regenerate. Eventually the regenerations would have errors, which accumulated overtime until he reached the point that he was no longer recognized as human by his captors, allowing him to escape, however in the process he has lost his humanity, as his freedom came at the cost of humanity, now resembling a gross accumulation of mass moreso than an actual human being.

>>52144809
Execute the evil, mad, and monstrous cleanly, without cruelty or ruthlessness, instead with expedience, for while they do not deserve suffering, they also do not deserve to live. Do not revel in the slaughter or delight in death, for killing is not something to be proud of. Instead, let your heart be warmed by the knowledge that a danger to those you are sworn to protect is no more.

Always keep in your heart the knowledge that we do this not for the sake of violence, but to defend those who have not our strength. We are to be the saviors of the broken, the beaten, and the powerless. When in darkness and temptation, when anger or sorrow clouds your thoughts, do not be ashamed, because it is human to feel, but do not let your vision and actions be clouded by such.

Even if you must face death yourself, don't allow the weight of the world break you, to turn you away from what is right. A broken man is the most dangerous of all to peace and righteousness, because bereft of his loves or his honor, he is little more than a monster, but with a intellect and cunning that no mere beast possesses.

>>52145013
It was some webcomic if I remember correctly, and was somewhat lengthy. Felt like it addressed the loss of humanity to combat what is inhuman (or escape from it in this case) pretty well. I think he ended up with a baby he stole from the kidnappers mosquito insect things or something in the end.

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>>52145013
>>52145111
This it?

>>52145338
That's actually really damn cool.

>>52145338
Jeez, turning into a monster like that would suck.

At least let us design or choose our monster forms, damn it.

>>52145718
All right, /tg/ now needs to start koncking out a table of random monstrous mutations that still fit on humanoids.

>>52145338
Is this a series? Sounds fucking cool.

By being a giant robot.

>>52144809
Not...becoming a monster?

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>>52144809
you can't become what you already are

>>52144809
Drone strikes, artillery, CAS...

>>52146299
Lego robot comics. Not a series, Web comic. Guy is...inspired

>>52144809

This idea that killing and violence are inherently evil is bullshit. There is nothing wrong with killing something or someone that needs it.

>>52146643
The kind of inspired you see in the 60's and 70's artists i assume?

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>>52144809
Hugs and Kisses

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>>52144809
Becoming a monster is okay because

>>52144809

Teflon

Don't let it bite you

>>52144809
Empty palm vanquishes the wicked.

>>52144809
Hunt hard. Kill quickly. Waste nothing. Offer no apologies.

>>52146654

You're confusing and conflating condemnation with permission. Killing and violence are inherently evil, but they can still be justifiable and even necessary.

Just because something is bad does not mean that engaging in it to, say, prevent a greater evil or at least another evil isn't without merit, it just means that those engaging in it have to own their actions and the subsequent consequences rather than expecting abdication of responsibility and absolution for their choices.

>>52144809
Welcome to the nature of war. Some can turn it off the monster they've become when it's over, others can't and have a hard time reintegrating with a peaceful and stable society.

It has literally always been this way.

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>>52147723
>Killing and violence are inherently evil,

That's where you're wrong, mleccha

>>52146654
Nature agrees.

>>52144809
You don't, that's sort of the point.

I never understood this "if you kill it you'll become just like it" thing.

>>52147723
Nothing is inherently anything. We are the herders, the origin of meaning. "Evil" means nothing in nature; it is red in tooth and claw and cares little for our petty moralism. It is violent and 'cruel' only as we define it. Next lie to me about how gold has inherent value. I love a good bedtime story.

>>52147723

No. The idea that killing and violence are wrong, note that I said killing and violence not murder, is a fairly modern concept and is largely limited to what anthropologists refer to as W.E.I.R.D. nations.

You're regurgitating what you were told. You don't have a properly educated opinion on the matter, you simply have a moral certainty that it is wrong because it is wrong. Baseless statements.

Killing a monster does not make you a monster.

>>52147842

The state operates by having a monopoly on violence. This is the basis of modern morals. States limited the expression of violence for those underneath their control. In order to do this, the idea was created that violence was wrong unless justified. This idea has been allowed to continue to grow for centuries as states also become ever more powerful until it has simply become violence is wrong period.

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>>52145718
Hell yeah. Can I be a mind flayer?

>>52147842

The basic idea behind it is it's hypocritical to judge someone as evil if they kill someone if you then decide to kill them, as you would then be committing the act that you judged them for in the first place.

Of course, this is a really hamfisted attempt at depth, and is hilariously dissonant when in stories where the protagonist kills tons of underlings before they get to the big bad, or if the big bad is a genocidal murderer and killing them would stop their rampage (although one could argue that putting a quantification on human life is itself a moral quandary). And even in situations when it isn't dissonant with the narrative, this idea simply ignores the intent of the action and only looks at outcome, which not very many people do when thinking about the morality of actions, so it seems a little bizarre.

However, I think this type of trope can be done well. For an example i'd say Avatar the Last Airbender accomplishes it pretty decently (if not a bit asspull-y.

>>52144809
Weapons. My PC uses a shamshir.

>>52145338

Looks like something from Guyver

>>52144809
i have killed a great many orcs, and i have no sign of becoming an orc, assuming their culture, emulating their mannerisms, nor endangering my own relationships, nor alienating any friends

>>52151422
Me orc! When me only knee high to tribe mother, tribe mother tell me Anon would come get me if me no hunt with other pups! When me older and stronger, me come home from hunt. Tribe mother dead. Tribe brothers and sisters dead. Orc heart dead.

You am monster.

You am...

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>>52144809
Don't get bit.

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>>52144809
By fucking slaying monsters you shit.
>b-but if I kill him I'm just like him
No you're not you filthy son of a bitch, monsters need to be slayed and put down for the good of everyone else.
While you were having and ethics dliemma, the monster just tore through three houses. Now if I know anything about training a hero it's like training a dog, so it's time for me to rub your nose in your mistake. Try not to snort her intestines down your skull you fuck.

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>>52151628
Don't abuse your dog, you heartless trash.

>>52144809
Step 1: Fight monsters

Step 2: Don't become monster

>>52144809
Fight harder

>>52151662
I don't want dog piss staining my carpet and this is the only way I know how to do it. Got a better method?

>>52144809
Don't shoot monster blood into your taint in an attempt to get stronger. You will not become a monster.

>>52144961
Yes goddamned monster girls count

>>52148687

Man, the bits were all THERE. If they'd just done a better job tying it all together, with the blocked chakras and the ancient basis of bending and the dragon turtle... All they needed was like... ten, fifteen extra minutes, move the Dragon Turtle to earlier in the series and have the sequence be longer, and BAM, great ending, 10/10, but they just fucked it all up and made it feel like a completely absurd deus ex machina.

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>>52144809
Why fight them? They're going to win sooner or later, and every second of effort, every ounce of resource, and every cent you waste delaying the inevitable is another you could've spent to try and make your last moments before the void takes you anything but despair.

Your cause is hopeless. Why not give in?

>>52151909

because my legs ain't broke yet nigga

>>52144809
You just uh
like kill the monsters
dude

>>52144809
by avoiding vampiric, lycanthropic, undead or generally contagious enemies.
See: >>52144866
but make sure to protect yourself with adequate armor/blessings.
demonic possession is always a risk so adhere to your faith.

>>52144860
ash ketchum please leave.

>>52144912
Take your sword in hand and do what must be done.

>>52151909
Nice try mr skeltal

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>>52144809
orbital strike

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He who kills monsters will inevitably become a monster too monsters.

Dont fight it, fight the monsters!

>>52152135
May the blood on your sword never dry

>>52151698
Dog trainer here

Rubbing doggos nose in pee hurts and confuses them. They are not sure what you are trying to convey.

The best method is if you catch them peeing inside say no! Then move them outside. Show them behaviour you WANT to see. Don't punish for what you don't like, give an alternative. It is easier and less stressful for them to understand.

If they aren't house trained take them outside to pee regularly. I know this sounds weird, but it really works. Reward them when they pee outside. Say good job! Give them a little piece of chicken. They will associate peeing outside with good things and realize it's what you want. Teach them a cue to go out like "potty" or something.

Rubbing their face in pee is confusing, scary for them. If they're not caught in the act they will not make an association with peeing inside and getting their face rubbed, they think you're nuts. Their brains aren't wired like ours. Again, teach them behaviour you would rather see and they catch on remarkably fast.

It's OK for puppies to have the occasional accident.

With my method my dog has learned "want to go outside" is a cue to go out and pee if she has to. She hasn't had an accident since she was a baby.

Sage for ot

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>>52144965
>what makes you human
Which is...?

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>>52144809
This is a favorite painting of mine. Saturn's just chowing down on one of his children like an oversized hot pocket.

>>52144809
just throw more bodies at them until theyre overwhelmed

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>>52144809
By not repeating meaningless platitudes. Smite evil, don't smite non-evil. It's that simple. Though I do admit that the big risk of trying to be virtuous is that you'll eventually see yourself as inherrently better because you're more virtuous, and therefore start seeing others as lesser.

>>52144860
>>52144809
by hiring expendable murderhobos

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>>52144809
Don't be a monster
Build a monster
Punch monsters with yours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vU7XqToZso

>>52144809
With the use of honest self reflection. A good moral code helps, as well as the strength to say no when pressured by others to do something monstrous.

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>>52144809
artillery

out of sight
out of mind

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>>52153663

>>52151710
So if I fuck a monster girl I become one?

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>>52153683

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>>52153698

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>>52153710

>>52152776
Yep. Monsters are just pussies that don't have the guts to do what needs to be done in a pragmatic and rational manner.

We need to schedule their eradication for next Tuesday. They just waste space and resources.

Dear OP,
Please return to tumblr with your undertale shit, you fucking faggot.
With love,
Anon

>>52153376

I can't help but look at Godzilla's expression here and think:

>"You call that a punch robo-pussy?"
>"LOL"
>"Come back when you're another robot version of me bitch"

>>52144809
Purify yourself after each kill

>>52153693
Yes, monster fucking turns you into a monster fucker. Get with the program newbie.

>>52144809

How often does this really happen? It seems to me like usually it's done by people trying to devalue monstrousness so they can justify acquiesce to monstrousness. Often because they secretly like the monsters.

>>52144809
By being good.

>>52144809
Geralt of Riva is one of the best monster hunters and yet he seems to be more human than most people of the witcher universe

>>52144809
Because Im already a demon.

>Nuclears

>>52147903
But what is a monster?

>>52156085
thats his big hangup in the books is he thinks he is supposed to be a heartless monster like a witcher is supposed to be but everyone laughs at him behind his back for being a big softie.

>>52156085
Only because you follow him for several books and 300 hours of games.
For Johny McSisterfucker he is the parent less mutant who came to the tavern and bisescted 3 men in 1.5 secs for not holding the bants.
Damn he acknowledges he acts like a cold motherfucker to impress simpletons.

>>52144809
Just kill the fucks and save people

'Waaah waaah my fight is futile, I'll become a jaded asshole and choose killing monsters over saving people in the end, or choose an easy means to power and lose my way in the name of good intentions', you say? Fuck you! Try telling those folks you saved from being raped and eaten by a dragon that your fight is futile! Easy means to power? You don't need more power! Just go kill the fucking monsters!

>>52144866
>Don't fuck monsters.

Being a monster is an STD. The only way to save humanity is through sex education and free distribution of condoms and dental dams.

>not becoming the next monster to stimulate the economy by pushing the demand for adventures up.
Seriously OP, can you even into sustainability? Like c'mon man, think of all the ramifications of those little towns out in the middle of nowhere that rely of adventure coin.

Easy: you take breaks. Being focused on a single thing for prolonged periods of time is detrimental to mental health.

>>52144809
You can't be a monster if all the monsters are dead.

>>52144809
Love humanity more than you hate monsters.

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Just use monster blood for transfusions. You'll never become a monster.
Honest.

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>>52156796

>not focusing on precisely what keeps you from becoming something else

>>52144809
Give them a touchstone, and a hard reset that triggers before final destination.

Have golems do all your dirty work for you.

>>52144809
Nomatter how you look like, you aren't a monster till you decide to discard your humanity. Don't discard it then.

>>52144809
With a long spear. Minimises the backwash of fluids.

>>52156657

Latex Mail.

>>52152508
Oh shit, thanks. Admittedly this was something I mostly learnt via observation while young. And yeah, I know not to do it when I notice it only when I catch them doing it in the act. But if I get another puppy I'll do your method.

>>52144809
>103 replies
>no suggests lower expectations