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To all the doubters from two months ago

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/03/40k-rumors-guilliman-planning-new-space-marines.html

piic for attention
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>>52105869
Guillimarines?
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Yep, 40k is gonna get sigmar'd alright.

Guess it's time to start looking for a different hobby
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I've been saying this twice so far.

It's happening boys.
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>>52105869
Just because you spam the same rumour everywhere doesn't make it true.
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>>52105949
Ah, no I'm the guy that has posted about it in 2 other threads.

OP is a different bloke.
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I don't really give a shit as long as my armies are still around and get something. I couldn't care less about what happens to marines.
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>>52105869
B-but I just started collecting Space Marines again. Does this also mean Rhinos and Land Raiders will be scaled up (assuming the new marines will be 'truescale'/bigger)?

Should I go ahead and stop collecting until this happens?
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>>52106252

Rumours say these will be a new thing separate from existing marines rather than an updated model for marines. So it's probably safe to collect, but you may be outshone in the future.

Personally I think if that rumor is true it's the most retarded thing in the universe. Making new sculpts for marines and giving them an update I can understand, but that article claims itll be an entirely knew thing and they won't be part of any existing chapter. Which is just balls. See these guys who've been the heroes for decades? Fuck them we've got new uber ubermench for you to use. Forget space marines, space green beret are here! I don't even play marines, don't even like them very much, but if that's the way they do it that is absolute horse shit.
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>>52106340
>Which is just balls.
>like GW never did the same
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>>52106459

This isn't fantasy battles mate. This IP actually matters.
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>>52106475
>This IP actually matters.
What's about IP they didn't kill 40k like Fantasy
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>>52106340
They're not replacing them so far.
They're just slightly more elite marines.
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>>52106493

>replacing and squatting fucking space marines
>not destroying the IP
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>>52106340

It is like you never heard of the Grey Knights.
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>>52106536

That... is actually a valid point. I dislike GK though.
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>>52106517
None going to squat them.
>>not destroying the IP
Nope since people loved Ultramarines, so everyone would love Ultracasts
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>>52105869

Going to laugh my ass off if these are nothing more than regular Marines in Mk X armor who only appear different because they've been scaled to the size of Stormcast Eternals and supposedly even some of the Thousand Sons models.

>>52106340

It doesn't make sense because Hastings could very well be talking out of his ass. He makes the comparison of Stormcast to the Empire, seemingly unaware that such a thing already exists with Space Marine to Imperial Guard and Custodes to Space Marine.

>>52106536

The Grey Knights aren't really the same because the only thing about them that stands out is being psykers and having access to among the highest levels of technology. Whereas these rumors would imply Space Marines that have been biologically enhanced in addition to new technology.
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It's a new adeptus faction for a new 40k. It does not replace current Space Marines.
They are the result of failed attempts to create new custodes, guilliman secretly order Cawl to create an elite army using guilliman geneseed but the project was interrupted when Guilliman was mortally wounded.
Cawl working secretly for thousands of years, and how to give back to life the primarch.
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>>52106636
>He makes the comparison of Stormcast to the Empire, seemingly unaware that such a thing already exists with Space Marine to Imperial Guard and Custodes to Space Marine.
And what's wrong here?
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>>52105869
I hope this is false. Just once I want /tg/'s doomsayers to be wrong about GW.
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>>52106766

Because he is acting like this is some new thing that didn't already exist and is happening because of AoS.

It really sounds like he saw or heard a few things and is extrapolating out the ass. Even more so when more credible sources like Atia have been silent or SadPanda have been vague outside of a reference to Mk X armor, which as I said could just as easily mean these supposed new Marines are just additions to the existing ranges, either taking the place of current kits or as a new unit along the lines of Veterans and Terminators.
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>>52106823
>Because he is acting like this is some new thing that didn't already exist and is happening because of AoS.
Nope most likely he trying to imply that new marines will be more closer to sigmarines (like ultimate anti-Chaos weapon) and will make other marines totally irrelevant in setting like it happened with mortals in AoS
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>>52106869
So... more Grey Knights? Honestly not sure how you go up from Grey Knights while in the Imperium's technological state without the Big E or one of the engineer Primarch helping.
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>>52106914
>So... more Grey Knights?
More powerful Grey Knights, like Sigmarines were much more powerful regular Warriors of Chaos.
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>>52106948
>More powerful Grey Knights
But in the Imperium's current state, without a technically proficient Primarch, where do you go from burning-daemons-with-the-presence-of-the-Emperor's-genetics, infallible, all-psychic space marines?
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>>52107089
burning-daemons-with-the-presence-of-the-Emperor's-genetics, infallible, all-psychic Custodes?
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>>52106914

To be fair, it's not impossible to do minute biological improvements, Fabius Bile went so far as to clone Horus. It's more a problem of what makes this thing so different that it takes the spotlight off of SM. Which again raises the possibility that Hastings doesn't know what he is really talking about.

>>52106948

Stormcast are on the same level as Chaos Warriors.
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>>52107864
>Stormcast are on the same level as Chaos Warriors.
Nope they are muchy stronger.
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I'll believe it when I see pics, until then fuck off
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>>52107893
They are not. The battletome only says they have an advantage on the WoC because they fight as organised army. They are not stronger than the WoC.
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>>52105880
More like .....Wardmarines
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Can someone give me alink to the mega folder or to the 40k thread? I can't find either.
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>>52105869
>hastings
This is your proof? A rumor from that faggot?
If you have pics you can try again.
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>>52105869
>Bell of Lost Souls

Not disagreeing, but BoLS as a source is like using Buzzfeed as a news source. Theyre shit tier rumormongers with 5% accuracy rate
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>>52105869
>…New marines will make old marines seem like empire now seem to sigmarines ……

what the fuck? whats the fucking in that. we already have that situation with IG and current SM, what the fuuuck
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>>52105869
Don't they just mean this ?
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>>52108897
>New marines will make old marines seem like empire now seem to sigmarines

>mfw they will still die to lasguns and Eldar.
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>>52106914
Are you sure they aren't more like Centurions?
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It's probably Booby G looked at what he had done to the space marine chapters and knew he fucked up and is going to try and salvage the situation
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>New marines will make old marines seem like empire now seem to sigmarines

Ultras get cucked by their own Primarch
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>>52105869
>It stands about two head taller than a guardsman, give or take.
>One knee-piece is oddly similar to a stormcast eternal grieve/knee piece.
>The marine has some weird wrist piece? Looking sort of like some data-device.
>New looking bolter pattern that loos more like a long assault rifle and an updated bolt pistol/auto pistol mix.
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Oh boy it's time for the second great grognard purge!
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>>52105869
>inb4 they're only available for armies with the Ultramarines chapter tactics
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>>52109405
Huh.
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>>52107941
>They are not.
They fight in 1k chapters against gorrillions of WoC (since even border-cities in Mortal Realms are larger than Tokyo I gues there is shitton of WoC).
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As long as they don't look like shit like Eternal Stormcast Sigmarines, and the fluff allows me to field them in my chapter/mix their armor bits around then I'm fine.

If they're a whole new faction or are too unique to integrate like the Custodes or Guilliman are, I'll be pissed.
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>>52105914
>>52105907
>>52105880
>>52105869
B-B-buuuut GW promised on their facebook page that they wouldn't age of sigmar 40k !!!!1!

please believe me senpai !!
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>>52106192
That's what they said about jews.
Then about blacks
Then about Bretonnians
Wood elves
tomb kings

so who u gon turn to when they come for your favourite army?
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>>52109838
>B-B-buuuut GW promised on their facebook page that they wouldn't age of sigmar 40k !!!!1!
Nope. they promised not ETd 40k, and they held this promises, setting wasn't destroyed, but none asked them about Age of...
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>>52108920
golden land raider
so glorious
so homoerotic
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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>>52109872
end times has already been mentioned several times in official 40k fluff.
in death masque for example.
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>>52109884
So not what they used to be. GW even featured a "Custodes" conversion army on their website ages ago with red rhinos and land raiders.

Also, I thought the Custodes adopted a black colour after the Heresy to mourn the passing of the Emperor and their failure to protect him. Am I wrong or did GW do another "Dark Angels Green"?
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>>52105869
Well, that's it then.

Time to open the fanfic gates and have /tg/ start writing our own canon now, because the GW ship is sinking and all that is left is our own thoughts as the world burns.

Gentlemen it's been an honor serving with you, and I pray that some of you rise to the challenge and create a brighter future.
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>>52109955
>Also, I thought the Custodes adopted a black colour after the Heresy to mourn the passing of the Emperor and their failure to protect him.

That's very old fluff from when Custodes were supposed to be like this.
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>>52109961
>because the GW ship is sinking
>>52108510
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>>52109961
Have fun with the 9th age fags
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>>52110040
>The boat floats well, but all aboard her are dead and damned

Of course GW is fine monetarily, they're a large company in the modern era they have a thousand tools to milk money and dodge bankruptcy through legal holes if they so choose.

That ain't what I meant, bro.
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>>52110027
Yeah, even GW thought they'd got a bit too close to someone else's IP with that... Even though Citadel were producing 2000AD miniatures at the time. Pic only semi-related, but O'Neill did draw terminators with bare chests, pointy masks and halbards.
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>>52109609
>the fluff allows me to field them in my chapter/mix their armor bits around
>a whole new faction or are too unique to integrate
Which of these would generate the most new money for GW, that is the one they will choose.
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>>52110027
It's mentioned in Collected Visions that after the Heresy the red was changed to black. So they should be gold with black, rather than gold with red.
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>>52105869
>New Marines.

Fucking WHY?

WHY NOT AT LEAST UPGRADE THE EXISTING RANGES ACROSS ALL THE RACES?!?

BARRING DIRE AVENGERS, ALL ELDAR ASPECT WARRIORS ARE STILL FUCKING RESIN GW! WHY WON'T YOU FUCKING UPDATE THOSE KITS?!!
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>>52110544
>Fucking WHY?
Because >>52110040
>BARRING DIRE AVENGERS, ALL ELDAR ASPECT WARRIORS ARE STILL FUCKING RESIN GW! WHY WON'T YOU FUCKING UPDATE THOSE KITS?!!
Because none cares about usual mortals.
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>>52105869
>we want the age of signmar audience
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>>52106869
"Ultimate anti-chaos weapons"? But those are the regular human warpriests, not stormcasts. Stormcasts are just there to safely crack chaos warriors skulls.
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>>52109598
>1k chapters. False, they either fight in stormhosts which are LEGION sized or warrior-chambers which would be 300-600 warriors. Plus fucking cultitsts kill them. Time and time again.

Also, the only city on par with Tokyo in the realms (barring azyr) is Hammerhal, which is anything but a border city.
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>>52111344
They are a patently better audience
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>>52106340
>So it's probably safe to collect, but you may be outshone in the future.

I hear the free people in AoS are pretty badass on the tabletop, hopefully they remember that.
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>>52108897
>Orks still I2
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>>52110027
Awaken, my masters! Aiaiaiaiiiiiiiiiii
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>>52110544
>why spend millions to make new products to cater to your vast majority of customers that are guaranteed to sell so well next quarters target will get blown away and stock prices will soar just like it did last quarter due to prospero box set
>instead let's spend millions updating unpopular models that the non players hate and the players would've bought anyway even if they weren't updated because they're cheesy faggots

You stupid? You're literally asking why fast food restaurants spend money on making burgers instead of developing new LGBT SJW friendly salads
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>>52110269

The former. Yet GW insists on the latter. See Deathwatch Marines. Barely compatible, over scaled parts with one single theme. They could have spent DW money making generic marine shit like BaC and BoP and made way more money

GW is too stupid to do that so they just make triumvirates and roll factions together like ynnari
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>>52105869
So what, is Rowboat Girlyman the new emperor or something?
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>super Space Marines
Maybe they'll be really limited in number, because if you could spam them why have regular Space Marines?

They'll be like what the Scions are to the Guard.
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>>52105869
Can we not post "News" from clickbait sites?
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>>52111987
>what are Grey Knights
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Oh well, I still like to think of Space Marines as they originally were, freakish fuckups upholding the law on the fringes of the galaxy.
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>>52112020
Terribly overspecialized and on an entirely different chain of command.
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>>52112039
So, Arbites on roids?
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>>52112039
Space Marines were never like that though.
They've always been super human warrior brotherhoods and respected as Angels of Death.
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>>52112076

They were to an extent, they weren't as perfect though. They even had to have Field Police.
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>TFW you've been telling some autist in nottingham about space marine space marines for a year and turns out hes been posting it as rumors.

Absolutely unreal, I thought the joke had gone too far but holy shit people will believe anything if you imply theres some end times mk2 going on.
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>>52112117

Hastings is normally pretty solid, he called Age of Sigmarines a year out.
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>>52111915
Yeah, the free-guilds are mid tier, certainly they are better in a better condition than guard, with them being the only ones being able to overwatch (and by overwatch I mean rolling UNAFFECTE/ FULL "BS") and having the tau's ability (though nerfed down).
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>>52110225
No one ever picks up on the fact Eldar are space kkk.
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>>52111939
>Eldar
>unpopular models
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>>52111806
>Plus fucking cultitsts kill them.
Yeah that's why they are literally unstoppable and only guys like Archaon and his new MLP riders could fight against them
>>52111915
Nope, they aren't even one army anymore (so no more common buffs and synergies)
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>>52105869
>Wardmarines are real
Fuck.
I knew something was up when that pile of shit returned to GW, god damn it.
Its not sigmaring, it is total retardation though.
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>>52112319
>random finecast aspect shrines
>more popular than marines

Like the post says, the popular Eldar models get purchased regardless of how old they are so why update them. Warp Spiders are guaranteed to be higher selling than other aspect shrines. Even tomb blades sold out when the decurion first came out after being a model that never saw play. Plastic doesn't mean shit.
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>>52112380
once they rehired Ward, we should have all begun preparing for 40k to die a slow, agonizing death of mediocrity.
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>>52105880
More like half-eldar marines.
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>>52108920
they couldn't just have made a plastic version of the gorgeous FW custodes contemptor?
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>Space Marine Marines
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>>52113162
>THE BEST OF THE BEST OF THE BEST OF THE BEST

Sir. With honors.
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guys, they are going to use ogryns and implant them with the muhrine gene seed!
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>>52112039
Someone post the MARINES LOL picture
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>>52105869
>tfw it will be fanfiction of the level where the OCs will obtain the best things from the main cast
>mars weaponry
>astartes training
>primarch geneseed
>celestial blessings
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>>52113918
>fast terminator-tier armor with jetpacks and servos mounted heavy weapons
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>>52114009
>jump terminators

You need to go even further.
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I imagine the 8th Edition starter will be Gullimarines vs. updated Chaos Marine models?
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>>52115205
>updated Chaos Marine models?

You poor fool
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>>52105869
I was actually hoping he'd make something like an inbetween Space Marine and Human, something more than Human, but still human enough to empathize with humans more deeply. Something more easily mass producible, but still get good results.
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>>52115340
karskins?
The good thing about the guard is that is cheap and versatile for the imperium while the marines are the "uber duper super" weapon and they still get rekt, so an in between would be more expensive than the guard and less good than the marines. Although 40k aint exactly known for being well though or reasonable...
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>>52106340
>See these guys who've been the heroes for decades? Fuck them we've got new uber ubermench for you to use.
I know, right? It's completely unprecedented.
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So we have,
>ubermensch
>ubermensch supreme
>ubermensch (revised)
>ubermensch (spooky)
>uber-ubermensch
and now
>uber-ubermensch (revised)?
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>>52106340
If they are Space Marines the Blood Ravens WILL steal from them. Mark my words.
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>>52106536
Grey Knights aren't super marines at all. They're psykers, but a Marine army can often turn them into paste.
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Apparently that would be their new models. Not that different. I can see them selling a single kit and that's it.

Like ye olde Raptors from the HH, SM made with the original temolate from the Emperor, when Corax tried to get more SM.
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>>52105949
and so the fact that it's happening. As cackling neverlaid have brayed and howled behind reality's veil for months now is what, pure happenstance?
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>>52114746
>>52114009
please stop, tau are over here with there unique units, pls no steal.
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Where does this leave the regular Astartes?

Fuck GW, I understand one-off moments of retardation like the Centurions, but why would you relegate your defining range to cheerleaders for the new £30 for 5 plastic kit?
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>>52119597
Is this legit? Because if so they're just true-scale Space Marines? Honestly, I'd happily buy a couple boxes of them and play them as fluff-appropriate Space Marines.

Not a big fan of the big bolter, but otherwise this is great.
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>>52119667

Looks it. If these guys come in new "Chapters" I can guarantee every one will be boring shit, not that it stops you using them as regular Astartes.
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>>52112364

That's why it doesn't happen and they need Sigmar to haul their asses on three engagements in a row. But hey, you sure seem uber-knowleadgable of the lore.
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aside from custodes box, what is next for the gathering storm, it seems to have gone humans, zenos humans, we looking at a further Zenos next and if so what, Orks, tau, krypt lords or nids.
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>>52105869
>New marines will make old marines seem like empire now seem to sigmarines

Wait, then what does that make the Guard?
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>>52119597
>Apparently that would be their new models.
Proofs?
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>>52119662
because SM players are 99% beta males that will do exactly what GW wants so they don't give a shit
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>>52119685

That's my thinking. Get two small squads and a HQ, deck them out in a chapter I haven't painted up but fancy and use them in smaller games as canon-marines.

I kinda wish they'd just reboot all Space Marines into that scale. I feel this is a half-hearted attempt to do true-scale marines without committing to outscaling 90% of people's armies.

Kinda of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
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>>52119705
Dead? didnt all the guard get blown up on that one planet?
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>>52119686
>That's why it doesn't happen and they need Sigmar
That's why they are doing pretty well in all Realms even without Sigmar who now just sits in his Asgard.
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>>52110544
Because the phrase "Adeptus Astartes" never quite caught on, and they've so far failed in their claim they own the term "Space Marine", so they're going back to the drawing board for something more Trademark-able.
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>>52111987

>Custodes, Grey Knights, Deathwatch
>most Marine codex have their share of unique powerful 'elite' units already

What is literally the point?
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>>52105880
Space Guillimans.
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>>52119597

Faaaaaaaaaaaaake
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>>52119811
You can always be more elite
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>>52115562
Thunder Warriors were never a thing on the tabletop and fluff-wise they were more of a historical footnote. 40k never started with them, it started when they already were Space Marines.
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>>52111806
>on par with Tokyo
It's much larger.
>barring azyr
>like it's not enough

>which is anything but a border city.
Why? The last time I've cheked sigmarines only starts their Great Crusade so anything non-Chaos on 8 Realms will be the borders of IoS,
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>>52106340
I'm curious how they would theoretically explain Guilliman being able to produce warriors even better than those made by the fucking Emperor himself.
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>>52119801
>New marines are call Sqaece Maerinaes
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>>52119856
Eldar tech maybe? These new bolters looks like mix between shuriken catapults and regular bolters.
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>New Super Space Marines
>It's literally just blue-painted Sigmarines with 40k rules
I could see GW doing this.
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>>52119875
>between shuriken catapults
Or Skitarii plasma guns
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>>52119889
It has that cone thing specific for eldar weapons.
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So, I have found these images on facebook.
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>>52119940
They corrispond perfectly to the description of the new space marines we had
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>>52119942
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>>52105869
>To all the doubters from two months ago
here are some more rumors
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>>52119940
So you knew we were talking about new space marines, but didn't even bother to look 20 posts up where this picture has already been posted?
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>>52119955
>So you knew we were talking about new space marines, but didn't even bother to look 20 posts up where this picture has already been posted?

Eh, sorry, I scrolled but I missed it.
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>>52119940
>>52119942
>>52119947
Honestly they don't look that much larger, I'm thinking they'll be more like a Deathwatch thing. Ynnari + Guilliman/Cawl teaming up to outfit a specially-trained chapter of muhreens with a few extra weirdo bodymods and equipment. Problem is, anti-chaos is the GK's thing.
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>>52119597
Fake, the feet are of a different colour and that's a weapon that chapterhouse used to make.
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>>52119963
I would assume they should be existing marines being upgraded, not raised from start because it takes decades to train.
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>>52119973
>that's a weapon that chapterhouse used to make.
Post it please.
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>>52119963
don't think ynnari have anything to do with it, the gun dingle's closer to grav's dingle in shape

I don't really see the purpose, though. That long bolter is ugly .
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>>52106340
That has been always for GW.
Like how the marines are awesome. good, here are 4 chapters that are better than other chaptrers.
but wait, here you go take this Grey Knights, they are better. Holy shit terminator armor, how about eaven better suit of armor, like Centurion . Oh as we are on topic of power armored super soldiers, here, take this custodes with you. Or eaven better, have some primarchs.
making space marine that is better than space marine is what GW does.
Im not happy with this, and god I hope new SM dont look as shit, but I like that they will be from now on tru scale.
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>>52107941
Base liberators are woc stats with more options and I think more wounds
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>>52119940
Well fuck me, I thout GW would screw this upo. Turns out, it just tru scale marines.
Also gee dubs, make new terminators please.
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>>52112076
anon, that picture is from Rogue Trader. That is EXACTLY how Space Marines were back then.Do I need to remind you that the Ultramarines even had a half-eldar librarian?
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>>52120055
ultramar had a half eldar astropath*
dude wasn't a space marine

Also read your RT book more closely, mate. They're warrior brotherhoods, complete with fortress monasteries and religious rites.
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>>52112104
Field Police is a thing for 30k.
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>>52120074
The.. Overseer?

But yea the Chaplain pre-cursors from before lorgar had his fingers up every asshole.
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>>52120088
Overseers were brutal. Commissars for the Legions.
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>>52120097
Man that's a sweet helmet, GW need to do more of those personalized/artificer style helmets and armour instead of just sticking extra skulls and laurels on regular ones.
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>>52120066
Yeah, and RL marines have masses.
The religious aspect of SM got amped up. Good luck finding a current marine frisking some punks, chilling on his bike, or writing things as mundane as "pure sole" or "your head here" on his equipment.
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>>52120122
White Scars.
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>>52120074
>encoded memetic significance
What did they mean by that?
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>>52120131
Memes are DNA of soul, Jack.
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>>52119942
Yep. This was the picture I had. I showed a friend and then they leaked it.
Sigh.
Goes to show what you can count on.

Welp, that's the last time we get a leak from that source.
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>People have actually spent hundreds, if not thousands of dollars/pounds/euros on this hobby
>Games workshop make all current space marines invalid

Lol, get fucked nerds.
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>>52120182
You have my sympathies.
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>>52120194
Appreciated.

But it's happened. Perhaps this will force GW's hand to share a pic.

But I can finally say it:

AHAHAHAHAH, told you all so!
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>>52120212
If it's a fake and kitbash like some people say, you'll be fucked.

Still a faggot for not wanting to leak that picture though.
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Okay.
So as it goes, they're not re-making space marines.
Story is simple.

Cawl or othere tech priests have made marines 2.0
Sort of like custodes.
They're gonna be ultra-Marine exclusive to start with, as they're made from Guilliman's geneseed/blood.

They're stronger, faster, smarter and otherwise better than regular marines.

They're gonna be elite marines. They're not invalidating the old ones.
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>>52120229
It's not fake.
I've had it confirmed by several GW staff friends.
Sure, all you have is my word. But now the pic is there too.

And this just means less leaks and therefore less info for you all.

I had the long game in mind. You just needed to see it now now now.
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>>52120122
>The religious aspect of SM got amped up.
No. They are basically the only thing in 40k that has gone through the years relatively unchanged.

Like, go and actually read rogue trader. Don't just look at the pretty pictures. In some ways the religious aspect has been DOWNPLAYED over the years, since that's not as marketable to younger audiences as big guys blowing up aliens with big guns and nothing else for the rest of time.
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>>52120242
>Long game in mind

Mate, you had one pic and that's it. Now youre just like the rest of us, get off your high horse.
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>>52105869

It's just another founding, m8s. This isn't anything that hasn't happened before.
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>>52120281
Being as dense as you must qualify you as a new element on the periodic table.
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>>52120294
They always evolved.
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>>52108920
Gotta admit, I fucking love the Custodes
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>>52120231
>Ultramarine exclusive

Of course they will, now they'll be the greatest in the table and in the fluff. I wonder how many times Ward has creamed his pants at this thought
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>>52119940
I'm still doubtful. That looks like someone's bookshelf with half painted non-gw minis. At least I don't recognize the human next to him. Doesn't seem like something GW would have in their building.
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>>52120381
It's a Vostroyan
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>>52120381
It's the cossack dude from the last chancers squad. He's a GW mini.

Not really sure what to think of the marine itself, though.
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>>52107089
You don't need Primarchs to come up with tech
Cawl has been alive since m31 at least so he knows everything that was lost or at least knows what was lost
The perfect excuse to slowly take forgeworld resin shit and make it into glorious plastic
So plastic sicarian tanks plastic mastodons plastic thunderhawks
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>>52119942
>>52119947
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>>52120131
The swirls thicknesses, lengths, interweaving representing data of a sort, battle honours, kill-count ect.
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>>52106475
Warhammer mattered at one point.
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>>52120231
>They're stronger, faster, smarter and otherwise better than regular marines.
Still gonna have 1w sergeants arent' they...
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>>52112275
No
The high helms is an evolution from whfb high elves
And that design is from Tolkien Noldor since they were meant originally to be generic models for any role playing system
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>>52115526
Kasrkin weren't augmented just elite
More like a stable version of Fabius NuMen
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>>52105907
Wargaming is the hobby. 40k is a single wargame in a huge massive sea of them.
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>>52120592
Shush it you. Eldar are now officially rednecks.
>Yesiree billy-bob, ah shure do hate me them mon-keigh *Spit* Now git youre jet-tractor, we's gonna have us a lynchin!
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>>52120381
That's Demolition Man from Schaefer's Last Chancers. Still available from the webstore I think.
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>>52105869
Wait, are the missing legions and their primarchs back?
Are they advancing the plot?
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>>52119940
those guns look pretty similar to Anvil Studios widowmaker guns...
It seems like a kitbash to me. the curiass looks just like the new plastic mk8 and the legs might be 3rd party bitz.
the head looks similar to the centurion pilot helmetless head.
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>>52121045
I kinda want it to be a kitbash.

Backpack and wristwatch bother me, I can't find where it's from.
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I thought BolS lost all credibility long, long ago?
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>>52121082
the wrist might be from the new deathwatch marines
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>>52121110
The source is not bols in fact
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>>52105869
I am tired, fellow neckbeards. I am tired of waiting for GW to pull the rug out of the entire like they did for fantasy. I am considering getting out of the hobby just so I don't have to deal with these rumors anymore.
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>>52121120
those are on the left arm.
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>>52121190
might be a flipped image
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Can we have some non-boring and generic as fuck plastic Imperial Guards instead plz GW. There is enough Space Marine sculpts to drown in already.
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>>52121205
And they have a huge screen.
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>>52121213
Ff you make IG players buy a much as SM players have untill now.
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>>52121259
GW is missing out on a huge chunk of the market by not giving the guard some alternate models is all i'm saying, they gotta be the most kitbashed and 3rd party supported figures in the 40k realm.

Plus DKoK is one of FW top sellers by far.
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>>52121279
>they gotta be the most kitbashed and 3rd party supported figures in the 40k realm
no, that'd still be marines
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>>52121279
Money talks.
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>>52121291
You mean Orks.
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>>52121291
but since all marines look the same whats the point?
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>>52121307
>whats the point?
people like marines, but want to make their marines look different from everyone else's marines

they're popular
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>>52120231

>Elite marines aren't going to invalidate marines

Yeah eroding the idea that marines are the elite won't do any damage to their concept.
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>>52121307
Don't bother, you're just pissing in the wind.
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>>52121328
>>52121344
but they don't they all have the same shilouette so it's boring it doesn';t matter what colour they are.
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>>52121412
pissing
in
the
wind
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>>52121412
>but
Just telling it like it is, dude.
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>>52120592
>And that design is from Tolkien Noldor
More likely it's from Citadel old Melnibone miniatures from 80's
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>>52121030
1)Legions? Yes. Primarchs... boy, you are in for a surprise.

2)YES. After over 20 years of statusquo, finally shit is happening. The emperor moved from his golden throne, only a little, but still...
Also, Horus 2.0, Tyranid mastermind, Chaos necron and Old ones back into this. Sorry for eldar and tao fags.
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>>52121641
Do you work for nintendo?
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So the elite forces hierarchy in the Imperial now looks like this?

Primarchs.
Super Ultra Marines.
Assassins.
Adeptus custodes
Grey Knights.
Death Watch.
Founding Space Marines.
Normal Space Marines.
Sisters.
Stormtroopers.
Guard.

Am I forgetting anyone?
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Okay, theory.

There was more info on the [REDACTED] Legion that was apparently lost. Apparently, per Inferno, it was lost in the Rangdan Xenocide that was finished off by the I and VI Legions. This is the first legit canon on what happened to one of the two.

Now we know from the HH novels that there was a rumor in the other Legions that the pieces of the II and XI were used to plus up the Ultramarines since the personnel weren't do be wasted.

So my insane theory from yesterday is that there will be a playable Rangdan campaign in the forthcoming Angelus book. There will be more info on the loss of the [REDACTED]. There may even finally be miniatures to go with.

This is where I really go off the rails. The "new" faction is going to be Bobby G ripping open the lab under the Palace, dusting off the original II Legion geneseed, letting the Eldar fuck with it, and building a legion that can stand in closer combat with Nids, since G has already seen the Ultras and other Marines can't do that.

So the GKs concentrate on Chaos, these new guys cover the flank against the Nids so the Imperium doesn't get eaten from behind, and this will free up other marines to fight the Black Crusade.

But with one Primarch back and maybe more coming, we are going see a blending of the miniature ranges between 30K and 40K, making the "new" II Legion usable in both.
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>>52121795

Saying the assassins trump the Custodes is like saying your hammer trumps your screwdriver.

Gotta use the right tool for the job.

And saying Founding marines trump normal marines is just a political and tradition thing, not like an Ultramarine has a reasonably different stat line or equipment profile from one of the successors.
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>>52119940
It's a kitbash.
From 40k General:
>1- The head is the Devastator Centurion Sergeant.
>2- The "pip" is the Deathwatch Watch Master's Clavis. The embellishments have been scratched away/greenstuffed away.
>3- The boltgun is a mish-mash of a regular boltgun with several bits from the Magos Dominus' weapon
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>>52105869
Chaos Necrons confirmed?
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>>52119942
Those look like sigmarine legs glued to a detailed marine leg mold.
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>>52122028
>front sight and muzzle break are noticeably different probortions
>tube has raised details, rather than sunken ones
>extra detailing around the earpiece, slightly open mouth
>clavis is not even remotely similar
>no explanation on the legs, which aren't as bell-bottomed as the deathwatch mk8s, not to mention the new pose/slightly different feet
>or the new torso and backpack
if you're going to ENHANCE with miniature images, at least make sure to double check the facts
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>>52122028
One has bigger bolter grip, the othar has shorter.
Bigger bolter has bigger thingu abowe the muzzle, the other one has shorter.
hand stuff is really not the same. And head is too blury for detail, but still.
Im not saying this is the real deal, but comparison is off.
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>>52122028
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>>52122028
You must be some kinjd of hackerman?
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>>52119863
They are chapters from the lost legions that hve returned in this hour of need, just as the Emperor planed.
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>>52122244
no, it's just the new shit guilliman told cawl to make nine thousand years ago
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>>52121213
>implying that with the imperium mobilised into a crusade the guard will get anything
You'll* get your human crusader regiments and you will like it

*not
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>>52106340
You are just mad because the she-primach of one of the lost legions will kill the last old one and his perfect ork army.
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>>52122251
WTF, GW?!?
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>>52122275
if you'd read the book, this wouldn't be a surprise
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>>52122017

Thank you. I wasn't going to screenshot my .pdf.

Also, I will acknowledge the possibility that there is misinformation in the book. The FW books are not written from the point of view of an ominipotent observer.
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>>52122028
>kitbash
It's a fucking 3d sculpt shuffle.

GW's been doing that for years.
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>>52122028
It's... really not a kitbash. I can't say it more bluntly.

These guys are happening.
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>>52122574
>getting this butthurt that people don't believe your bullshit
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>>52122628
In a few months someone will be dumping screencaps and laughing at retards, like when people were dead certain Wulfen would be S/T 3.
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>>52112275
They look more like a race of doctor dooms in that picture, and no, the eldar are not space klansmen. The klu klux klan used scary masks more often than they did the christian repentance robes. Learn some history, the kkk didn't invent the pointy hat and robe.
On a side note, I'm beginning to realize why techpriests are so feared. A religion made up entirely of Dr. Dooms, wrench monkeys, and 400+ year old programmers is a scary thing.
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>>52105869
Anyone with the epub?
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>>52122628

" getting this butt hurt"

I'm absolutely fine bud.
Keep projecting.
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>>52119705
Obsolete. Same reason empire/brets got squatted, because there's a zillion 3rd party manufacturers making minis that are easily usable in place of GW's models.
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>>52121331
Centurions already did the same thing to termies/dreads.
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> they wanted the space marines to be the pick up and play faction
> there are so many fucking options in the SM codex
> tau are more appealing to little shits and have more streamlined rules and playstyle
> stormcast sell well to youngsters because they're an appealing, easy to paint and play army
> new marines will have limited wargear and a more streamlined set of rules
> callin it now
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>>52119940
> bigger and better marines
> literally just truescale marines
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can we please just get an IG reboot already
I imagine most of the cadians are dead by now, perfect excuse to actually have some nice looking non starship trooper humans in 40k
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>>52119691
We need Supa Orks...orks the size of ogryn naked.
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>>52120231
>They're gonna be elite marines.

That's what the Grey Knights are. Or the Custodes themselves. I don't object to these things existing, it just feels like an utterly redundant concept that's already been used within the setting.
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>>52119705
Bretonians.
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>>52119713
Nothing in 40k is to scale

All of the vehicles would be too big to be practical to play with...even a basic dpace Marine Rhino would have to the size of a shoe box.
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>>52119875
Eldar would sooner sabatage Marines genetically rather than help us.
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>>52106914
Primarch Legions

Or turn everyone in the guard into superhuman Perpetuals with some magic serum.

>suddenly infinite immortal Imperial Guardsmen overwhelm all other factions.
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>>52110544
Honestly their design and artist team is probably not up to the task.

Its just easier for humans to design stuff for human based factions with the most amount of complexity.

Because while I do believe that it would be awesome to have a score of xenos and non-human factions each having dozens of subfactions and expansion as the fucking Imperium, it would be impossible. At least for a company of GW's size.
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>>52120318
Stand tall and take your place in the sun!
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>>52123192
>tfw hoping for a Grey Knights and Custodes buff that makes them better than the nu-marines.
>delusionalgreyknightsfagfeels.gif
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>>52120381
>>52120397
YOU TWO SON'SDISSAPOINT ME.

It's an alcoholic Valhallan demolition expert who was sent to penal legion for breaking into his commanding officer's private drink cabinent.


YOU FOOKING DISAPOINT ME
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>>52121279
This. They won't update the basic catachans which look fugly as hell.

Next a dress uniform kit to make mordians or thise zulu looking fuckers

Next a furcoat set to make either valhallans or vistroyans

And then trench coats for steel legion or death korps of krieg.
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>>52122126
You forgot the drum magazine
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>>52121331
Eh, in a D6 system, space marines are the middle stat line at 4's
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So what is the box scribbled out above the marine? A banner of some kind with a new emblem we aren't supposed to see?
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>>52119856
My assumption is that being a primarch they will revive the legion programs, meaning they can create geneseed at rates not seen since the heresy thus they start mass producing marines again
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>>52124659
>the guy who inverted the chapter system
>wanting to bring back legions
???
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>>52121795
Add this to the bottom:
PDF
Whoever's defending the world before the Space Marines get there
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>>52123097
This. I have always kinda felt marines should have been 2 wound infantry since 3rd edition.
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>>52105869
I'll chuckle if Gulliman decides that the typical Space Marine is too resource intensive to create, train and deploy in large enough numbers to properly defend the Imperium while also noting that the Guard, brave as they may be, simply aren't up to the task without taking unacceptable losses, and so works with the AdMech to create a more militarily feasible high-end middle ground. Souped-up Kasrkin with better gear that can be created from already trained and experienced Guardsmen or something.

Put them in a set of light powered environmental carapace armor, equip them with tough and dependable weaponry, and reinvent the Hammer of the Emperor as a well trained and equipped professional fighting force, with the Space Marines used as the elite spearhead and special operations force they're kind of meant to be.

You know, actually make a proper Imperial Army. Gulliman is a leader and oprganizer par excellence, with an emphasis on logistics and advanced combat doctrine. Putting him in charge of the Imperium's military is the best that that could have ever happened to it. Hell, it's been said that the main problem hobbling the Imperial Military is the asinine levels of stupidity and inefficiency that infect it's core.

Well, the Primarch best suited to fixing that problem just woke up, and he ain't happy.
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>>52124862
>Gulliman
>advanced combat doctrine
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>>52123422
>or thise zulu looking fuckers

Some Australian with a hardon for Praetorians has actually made a complete multi-part range of infantry and heavy weapons, complete with a Micheal Caine lookalike officer. The only thing stopping me from getting some is that they're 50 USD per squad before shipping to the other side of the world.
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>>52122928

I doubt there is anything they can to for these new marines that will make it impossible for third party to create bits.

There are just as many polish third party sites making bits for SM as there are IG
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>>52122574
>It's... really not a kitbash. I can't say it more bluntly.
Where is the proof?
All we've seen is a suspect blurry screenshot that doesn't look like it's from GW, but someones personal workstation.
And the mere state of that doesn't make any sense. GW does all it's design in CAD, so this isn't a designers workstation. So where the fuck was the picture taken, of you know so much about it? Because nothing in that image would indicate it's from GW HQ.

Either give proofs or fuck off you stupid fucking namefag.
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>>52105869
Could these be the two removed chapters marines? I could see them doing something like that, they were hidden and deleted from records because they were ūbēr marines and didn't want the universe to know the Trump card? Or they are just because they are made with a more "pure" stock of gene seed? Read girllyman jizz. Seems plausible though I don't like it.
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>>52126495
Oh fuckoff and wait.

Guess I'll take my Fulgrim shit elsewhere too.

Twat.
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>>52126495
" it's a shoop. I can tell from the few pixels and being said master shoop man my self.
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>>52126582

Waiiiit.... what Fulgrim shittttttttt
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>>52126582
You're posting on 4chan. Fucking 4chan. If you want people to suck your dick over spoilers, real or otherwise, you really are best off going elsewhere, because unless you've got cast-iron proof everyone here is going to be rightly skeptical.
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>>52105869
Good.
Maybe we'll actually be able to stand a chance against Tau and Eldar.
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>>52121795
Forget all the mechanicum guys and arbites

Also sisters of silence are back
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>>52126633
And rightly so.

I've got better shit to do than feed misinformation.
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>>52121795
>Primarchs.
Inquisitors
>Super Ultra Marines.
>Assassins.
>Adeptus custodes
>Grey Knights.
>Death Watch.
>Founding Space Marines.
>Normal Space Marines.
Sisters of Silence
>Sisters.
>Stormtroopers.
>Guard.
Arbites
PDF
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where did the image appear first?
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>>52126839
I saw it on 4chan at like 3am before I went to sleep.
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>>52126630
Fulgrim has already been confirmed as active in a short story, so it's likely he is the next traitor primarch to get a model.
The namefag is banking on likelyhood to get a dick stroking, but he honestly needs to find a different site. /tg/ has been suckered too hard in the past in order to accept spoilers from most places without ironclade proof.
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>One namefag shilling this.
>gets pissy when people don't believe
>no real proof
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>>52126863
This.

another cancerous namefag desperate for attention.
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>>52126899
Nah.
Dismissive attitudes I expect.
Being rude Is never needed.

I won't be leaving.
I'll be here giving info on what I know.

Keep whining and trying to goad more stuff out of me though. It's very sweet.
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>>52126633
>everyone here
>is the only one samefagging to defend his delusions
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>>52126942
>>52126582
real convincing buddy, cry harder
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Can someone help me in a direction to go with chaos? I have one flaming chariot built, one not. I have a box of rubrics, two boxes of the tzangores, and the chaos stuff from dark vengeance. I'm thinking of a way to use as much as I have without buying a shit load of more models. It's doesn't have to be great just the best of what I can do. I am brand new to chaos and got all of this as a gift.
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>playing SPACE MARINES in the first place
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>>52127280
you'll probably find more answersin this thread friend >>52127186
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>>52126990
>>52126942
It's not like either of you two retards would ever admit to being wrong.

Spoiler for both of you: Claiming the other person is mad doesn't make it actually true.


Now shut the hell up.
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>>52127514
I like you.

Ten points to Gryffindor.
>>
?
All thats in the link is some guy rumormongering on bos, where's the proof dude?
>>
Someone said they found that picture on facebook, I'd like to know where.
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>>52123215
I can't believe there's a thread of "Lol troll harder" posts after a picture of a plastic true-scale marine was posted.
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>>52126582
So you don't have any proof. Now you're throwing out Fulgrim's name because many things indicate he's the next primarch back, so you make yourself seem more legitimate. Either cough up some proof or kill yourself

Fuck off cunt, you're a useless namefag
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>>52126942
>Being rude Is never needed.
being a namefag is never needed, certianly when you've shown nothing to warrant it.

Kys namefag, nobody cares about your baseless """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""leaks""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>52123215
Why does he have such a baby right arm
>>
Where were you when GW killed the Golden Goose?
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New "space marines" are gonna be talons of the emperor as a fully fledged 40k army. Screencap me faggots.
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>>52129552

It's bizarre. I just don't understand. I'm putting my SM and CSM on hiatus, perhaps permanently and will focus on my IG who are probably getting squatted soon anyway.

What a time to be a 40k fan.
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>>52125909
It doesn't have to be impossible. It just places a much greater burden on 3rd parties to catch up than it does on GW.
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>>52121279

Hopefully GW will have the wisdom to use Girlyman's return as an excuse to add shit to other Imperial factions.

>Roboute sees what a (admittedly effective) shitshow the Guard is
>Loosens some restrictions and revises how they're organized
>Helps make their doctrine more efficient
>Gets the Mechanicus to stop being as Jewy with their technology requisitions
>whatever else

This would open up a lot of different customization options for the Guard and give them plenty of new toys to play with.
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>>52130463
the sky is falling!
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>>52130737
>implying IG wouldn't squatted in Age of Guilliman
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>>52130737
Why would you want to play those losers when you can play ULTRA SPACE ULTRA MARINES
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I really hope GW brings back the Lost Legions. It'd be cool to get some marines with weird rules and bits from 10k years without contact with the Imperium.
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>>52131755
>Sigmar, the lost primarch, and his legion returns to the galaxy after being banished to the Webway
Like. Fucking. Pottery.
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>>52119947
That's definitely the old tac sarg arm with a pistol with the pistol cut in half
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>>52109856
I haven't been into Warhammer for ages, what happened to Bretonnians?
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>>52132232
They died cause GW a little bitch
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>>52132232
Rocks fell, everyone died and were replaced with Magic Space Marines.
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>>52131755
>Lost Legions.
Ann they are Ultramarines
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>>52105907
>40k is gonna get sigmar'd alright.
I warned ya guys; one day you WOULD know how it felt. It was just a matter of time.
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>>52106822
Yeah, because THAT has happened before.
Maybe not stick your dick in a company with an obviously abusive relationship with it's customer base.
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>40k sigmared
>DoW III are Moba
ke-ke-ke
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>>52131919

Old tac sergeant never had decorations on the pistol butt. All you faggots trying to "spot" existing bits are all blind faggots with penises for eyes.
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>>52109856
>Wood elves
What happenned with Wood elves?
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>>52133834
they've got renamed an therefore can't be found again by anon
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>>52105869
>inb4 they just end up pumping out full armies of custodes
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>>52120242
Youre saying that like 4chan demanded it leaked. Someone just posted it out of the blue
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is that shit legit?
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>>52108920
Custodes use Rhinos? Thats just so utilitarian, couldn't they have gotten some pimp hover vehicle instead?
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>>52113918
>nothing from the guard
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Artwork from a new book by GW showing these ultra-ultramarines.

Get fucked doubters.
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>>52119856
Corax did it, until Alpha Legion fucked it up for everyone. I'm sure Guilliman can figure it out.
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>>52135319
>they really turning 40k into noblebright shitfest
Top kek
Gues non-Ultramarines SM players didn't support their armies well.
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>>52109884
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>>52135319
http://concubot.deviantart.com/art/Ultramarines-572672108

you really thought no-one would google it?
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>>52135319
>>52135554
BTFO
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>>52134778
nah, it's the new shitposting meme material

join in and piss everyone off
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