Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>52098700
>no edition name edition
>last name >>52096056

>>52098700
Is the Epub of Rise of the Primarch out yet?

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Reposting from last thread:
On a scale of 1-5, what turn would this army end up conceding?

The Grandmaster is supposed to be Voldus, and the unbound selection is the Bulwark of Purity.

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>When one of the boyz sez he don wanna play dawn of war 3

>>52098739
THe book hasn't officially released yet

>>52098757
Gorgutz is my dad

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First time back since 5th, how did I do?

>>52098782
>Gorgutz won't lead you on a father-song bonding WAAAGH
Why live

I'm worried for Slaanesh.

I'm kind of tempted to get the collector's edition of DoW 3, just for the hammer and cloth posters.

So I got my emperors wrath Artillery detachment.
They are supported by my large infantry platoon consisting of about 75 men.
Now, in general, tanks support infantry.
What vehicle does best at supporting infantry?

>>52098879
If you have enough points you could run a bunch of Hellhound variants and shove a bunch of cheap and fast vehicles into your enemy so they draw fire or kill stuff in cover, whichever happens its a win for you.

>>52098745
Don't bother with voldus, just take 2 Libbys for the same price

Turn 4 because you can put things in reserve

>>52098879

In the IG book?
Probably Hellhounds.

Otherwise walkers can catch assault units before they catch your infantry.

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>tfw forgeworld hive tyrants are hell to find
>this is all you can find on ebay
post the worst thing you can find for your faction

>>52098960
>tfw buddy bought the other one from that guy and ressurected it
rest in peace you

>>52098973
Got any pics or details?

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>>52098990
its a picture for ants, but it had an autistic claw thing, one leg was somehow posed like it was a dog tilting to piss on something, and it had a plastic headpiece glued on top of the regular one
buddy had to entirely resculpt the hip joint for the leg and now it actually looks like a model, dont have a pic right now

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>>52098960
This guy sells/sold an entire Black Templars army with that "paint scheme".

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>>52098852
no fuck off

Alright Men, what is your favorite Guardsman book? I'm feeling a bit down after Dead Men Walking, need something grimdark but not that grimdark.

>>52099046
People selling expensive models like this that are all jacked up with awful paint are all over ebay
What makes them do it /tg/?

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>>52099068

>>52099085
>I'm feeling a bit down after Dead Men Walking, need something grimdark but not that grimdark.

Ciaphas Cain is grimdark but not that grimdark.

>>52099094
I guess its ment to be dust and mud or something?

>>52099119
Honestly looks like they're half-petrified.

The worst part is that the paintjob underneath looks to be pretty decent.

>>52099110
I've checked out Cain's adventures, they're fun but get really repetitive, anything else like that?

>>52099068
>>52099094

... what the fuck?

What's baffling is that the helmet and other details aren't that bad... but the majority of the fucking miniature is covered in that awful excuse for a dust effect.

Dust effects are super easy to get looking great, too.

>>52098700
Deathwatch is already a reality show.

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>>52098960
>Painted to a reasonable standard

>>52098834
Father Son bonding is a meme. I know for a fact that it's impossible for fathers to form emotional bonds with their children.

>>52098757
DOW3 is complete shit and you're shit for enabling them to make more shitty games if you give them money for it.

>>52098868
Fuck outta here shill.

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>>52099204
>tfw you wish you never reawakened

Rate my Deldar wargear ideas:
Toxin Vambrace: 10 points
The unit may choose to take an item of their choice from the Combat Drugs table.

Vect's Blessing: 25 points: (Archon only) Unit has Eternal Warrior. At the end of the game, if the unit is still on the table, roll a D6. On a roll of 1, unit is assassinated, and is immediately removed as a casualty with no saves allowed.

>>52098700

So, what does everyone make of Hasting's rumour of Marines Mk II coming out?

>>52099200
>you will never have a reality show where the Black Templar discovers the Space Wolf's furry porn and, in a righteous fury, begins chasing him around the barracks with a whip while shouting hymns of condemnation

why live

>>52099277
Nobody who isn't already convinced that gw wants to destroy everything believes them
Make of that what you will

>>52099204
Literally perfect.

>>52098700

Where are the squats?

>>52099295
Gonna disagree with you there.

I thought GW was not going to go full retard with 8th like the END TIMES faggots are always crying about, but this unfortunately sounds legitimate, and now I'm starting to feel the panic set in.

>>52099277
>MKII
>Not thunder armor
Why continue not being dead?

>>52099277
I think they will be a special unit, I very much doubt normal marines will be sidelined.

>>52099329

Mk II as in improved marines. As he said in the rumour, ' New marines will make old marines seem like empire now seem to sigmarines'

>>52099264
Eh, at least it's an old metal Lord. Depending on what they used to make that garbage bag cloak out of, it should be salvageable. I think they cut and repositioned the head of the staff though, which is kinda strange.

>>52099361
Oh.... well I still want fully thunder armored units.

>>52099361
I for one welcome our new 'Ultra Marines'.

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>>52099324
>I thought GW was not going to go full retard

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>>52099315

>>52099295
What the fuck man? The Rise of the Primarch book ends with the Primarch and Cawl going to Mars to build something new.

Now what that could be?

>>52099324
Not even the clickbait faggots are covering this shit, and he just came out of nowhere after a pretty long silent period
Shit ain't happening captain

>>52099411
A giant golden cock By which I mean a statue of Guilliman

>>52099411
A haemonculus-crafted body for daddy emps?

>>52099437
Haemonculi are enemy of new Guilliman's friends.

>>52099411
Who fucking knows

>>52099225
He says without even trying it

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>>52099435

>>52099457
Ynnari a shit anyways

>>52099411
When have rumormongers been ANYTHING other than /technically/ right honestly

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>the correct pronunciation all along was Row-Booty Gillyman all along

>>52099501

Hastings has been right almost every time though. He predicted Magnus and the Rubricae.

anyone have the 20 lbs of chapter approved pussy image?

>>52099511
Did he predict Mortarion as well ?

>>52099504

FUCK OFF JAGHATAI

YOUR SONS LOST AND ENTIRE PLANET

>>52099535

Yes, and Plastic Plague Marines.

>>52099549
So did girly man's

>>52099411
New space marines.

They'll be the sigmarines of 40k, and all your homebrew chapters and carefully painted Astartes will be obsolete and squatted

>>52099555
>>52099535
for the love of everything good let these rumors be true

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I'm not sure if I'm a fan of having major characters be insanely undercosted and in every army.

It seems super unbalanced, especially with armies that no character really fits.

>>52099471
Oh hi Space Jesus

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>this cringe fucking Greyfax and Celestaline romance bullshit side story

Good lord Games Workshop, get your shit together

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>>52099408

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>>52099476
oi cunt

>>52099649

Greyfax will get converted to the holy light of scissoring and theres nothing you can do about it.

>>52099411
I'm looking forward to that new bolter pattern. These good old bolter didn't quite strike my liking.

>>52099621
Posts like these are /exactly/ why the rumors have no credibility to me

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>>52099671
He's right though. Ynnari a shit t. Eldar player

>>52099636

There's still plenty of reasons to not take the name characters in almost every scenario barring Cawl.

>>52099649
>romance side story
The fuck have you been smoking to read romance into their relationship?

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>>52099649
>>52099686
post proof or I call bullshit

>>52099695
Well, posts like him are just shitposting, after all.

They will, however, be the Sigmarine equivalent of 40k, though probably won't be more than either an Imperium-generic unit choice or just a Elite selection.

>Guiliman is new space Julius Caeser
>Emperor was Augustus.

>>52099671
GW has managed to discover the most disgusting shade of blue possible.

>>52099712
>They will, however, be the Sigmarine equivalent of 40k, though probably won't be more than either an Imperium-generic unit choice or just a Elite selection.

That kind of completely fucking ruins the point of having factions in general.

>>52099733
You mean reverse, because Augustus was adoptive son of Caesar who deified him.

>>52099712
I was shitposting, true, but i'm legitimately worried they'll make them the new "standard" for space marines. Because as one anon said it's the perfect way for them to:

1. Get truescale marines
2. "attempt" to unfuck the rules by AoSing some parts
3. Introduce female space marines

>>52099712
In all likelihood they'll be expensive af both in game and out

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>>52098960
>worst thing in my faction

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>>52099225

:^)

>>52099758
>3. Introduce female space marines

for what purpose

The types of people who are interested in "social justice" BS are the types of people who would (theoretically) stay as far the fuck away from a hobby like 40K as possible, especially its player base.

Aside, of course, from professional victims.

>>52099756
>being this uneducated
Disdain for plebs.jpg.
Augustus was the founder and first Emperor.

>>52099767
>preordering a video game
JUST

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>>52099712
>They will, however, be the Sigmarine equivalent of 40k, though probably won't be more than either an Imperium-generic unit choice or just a Elite selection.
Cool.

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>>52099767
holy shit

So with the new Ultramarines rules, in an Ultramarines detachment you get two uses of each doctrine for free? One for being an Ultra detachment, and one for having Ultra chapter tactics?

That seems really weird.

>>52099753
They already added absolutely Imperium-generic HQ units and a detachment to just mash everything together. Adding one more unit to that generic pool won't make a difference at this point

>>52099758
They won't make them the new standard. They said that they don't want a complete reboot like AoS and must've learned from the community backlash. Just making several hundred to thousand dollars of thousands of people obsolete again would result in so much shit-throwing that they'd single-handedly destroy the success they've regained over the last few years.

Unless they make a 1k+ year timeskip alongside that, they won't even have a half-decent way to mash them in as the new standard, since not even Cawl will be able to produce several Legion's worth of Space Marines practically over night.

>>52099777
GW trying to branch out and be as PC friendly as possible dude. It's easy to see why it's happening ever since Slaanesh got fucked in AoS

>>52099780
Julius Caesar was god-emperor of Rome, who had shrines dedicated to him.

>>52099767
For real dude !? I know that that hammer is just so good but, for real !?

>>52099777
>when you realise female space marines is a dumb ignorant argument because we already have sob

>>52099780
Julius was before Augustus you moron

>>52099801
In the new Detachment, the detachment rule gives you one more Doctrine use for each of them, stacking with the other extra uses you can get from other sources.
The "special rule" is that you are allowed to activate 1-3 Doctrines per turn instead of just one, but you'll need to have the charges to do that remaining.

>>52099777
There are plenty of bluehairs in San Antonio
Fact is most hobby shops here have a no politics rule and people who try to start shit get banned pretty quickly, see: red star faggots and heroes and fantasies

>>52099815
There's a huge difference between removing literal demons of sex with tits and BDSM clothing and weaponry from their game and making it more PC. They merely want to sell it to younger audiences (or their parents, rather, since any kid will find naked sex demons fucking great).

>>52099816
Was not the founder and first Emperor.

>>52099833
He was not an Emperor or founder of the Empire you fucking retarded idiot

>historical illiterates trying to discuss the history of Rome as learned from fragments of Wikipedia articles
Just don't, please. It hurts.

>>52099884
>arguing Augustus is not the first Emperor
Junior high school stuff. Everyday I realise this board is populated with 14 year olds.

So if these rumours of super SM are true, will they be more akin to Thunder Warriors? What do you guys think will distinguish them from the regular variety we already have?

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Which Linkin Park song can best describe Guilliman's emotions right now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLQs0OrHiPY

>>52099910
Sooper elite spice murines

>>52099922
Would "Crawling" work for before he was brought back to life by she-aledari kiss?

>>52099922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0

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New fag here

Riddle me this fluff fags:

>Why did Guilliman "sit out" the Horus Heresy??

>How long was this galactic civil war??

>>52099831
>>when you realise female space marines is a dumb ignorant argument because we already have sob

"But it's not the same!" they will cry, completely missing the point that they were never supposed to be identical and that Sisters of Battle are arguably the most "feminist" faction in the entire Imperium.

>>52099922
>Adapting to the Imperial Creed for the greater good

https://youtu.be/teIKBmYFw84

>>52099933

For that we already have the Grey Knights and the Deathwatch, though. Will their designs be a major revision? Will they rely on the same wargear? What about the Chapter structure?

I am considering using some sternguard veterans for a small IF army, are they any good in this meta?

Also, do they look much different painting wise?

>>52099948
>>How long was this galactic civil war??
A couple hundred years at the minimum, especially including the somewhat-fuzzy years of The Scouring where the Imperium pushed the Traitor Legions back and reconquered a sizable chunk of what they lost.

>>52099948
Because he's a power grabbing traitor.
And I believe the Heresy was done in under ten years. But I could be wrong.

>>52099948
>>Why did Guilliman "sit out" the Horus Heresy??
He thought imperium had perished and prepared to build another so he could continue to keep humani alive.

>How long was this galactic civil war??
Which one?

>>52099969
>Which one?

HH

>>52099815
>It's easy to see why it's happening ever since Slaanesh got fucked in AoS

And yet they're almost certainly bringing Slaanesh back in AoS, because they now have a character who is a Sorcerer of Slaanesh that is seeking to find Slaanesh and free it.

Also, the presence of Slaanesh has greatly increased in recent fluff, suggesting that it isn't likely it's going anywhere any time soon.

Do the sisters of silence have a marine or sister type statline?

>>52099815
>GW trying to branch out and be as PC friendly as possible dude.

If they are trying that, they're failing hilariously, if recent models are anything to go by.

>>52099967
7 years from Istvaan to Terra.

Stupid, I know, but that's GW's sense of scale for you.

>>52099998
Sister.

They're still "regular" humans, after all.

>>52100001
the GW is being progressive and pc is just libtard trolling.

There will be another trilogy soon after Gathering Storm right ?

>>52099948
Because Lorgar sicced e World Eaters on Ultramar in order to create a giant warp disruption that would cut it off from the rest of the galaxy

>>52100013
Its fairly Eldarish high I and marine ws and bs

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>Guilliman orders the Library of Ptolemy barred shut to all visitors. This is an age of Wrath and War – learning and lore must be set aside.

What a weird fucking thing to do?

>>52100042
More than likely the new rulebook this summer will fast forward a few decades or a hundred years and give a general state of the galaxy, given that GW said they didn't want to change too much too quickly.

>>52100063
hes butthurt about magnus being an asshat, thats whats up.

>>52100063
Only book you need is the codex astartes by Robert Gulliman

>>52100016
I know, but enough sheltered idiots on the internet who do nothing but believe the memes keep spouting it unironically as if it's the gospel fucking truth

Also fuck you random guy at the GW store who is always lurking and giving unsolicited opinions to everybody in earshot, they're not squatting Slaanesh, so stop trying to dissuade me from building a Slaaneshi army when I show up every other week. Don't hate because I put a shitload of time into converting my minis and you just slap your Plague Marines together with superglue and a basecoat and call it a day, you 5'6" 350lb sack of shit

>>52100077
Glendale California??? hehe

In 2014 I was convinced G-Dubz was squatting Ogryns

>>52100055
Well yeah, but at the same time they're still T3 3+ infantry, and so not super-durable (though not cardboard cutouts either), just like SoB.

Is Cypher going to hold a grudge against Guilliman for not taking him to the throne room? Or is he the better man?

>>52098960
A few old classics from mine:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-40k-Tau-Riptide-Conversion-/152351504441?hash=item2378db7839:g:n5EAAOSwEzxYTKBg

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-40k-Tau-Empire-Knarloc-Forgeworld-Converted-as-Riptide-Pro-Painted-/162101341291?hash=item25bdfe2c6b:g:YdMAAOSwjVVVoJQ9

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rate

1850 Renegades & Heretics: Vraks Renegade Unending Host

HQ__
Renegade Command Squad
Arch Demagogue
master of the horde, covenant of nurgle, 4x Disciples, Chimera

Troops__
Renegade Infantry Platoon
20x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, militia training, meltabombs
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, militia training
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, militia training

Renegade Infantry Platoon
20x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, militia training, meltabombs
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, militia training
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, militia training

Renegade Infantry Platoon
20x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, militia training, meltabombs
15x Infantry Squad, flamer
15x Infantry Squad, flamer

Fast Attack__
6x Renegade Sentinels
autocannons, camo netting, militia training

Heavy Support__
3x Rapier Lasers
extra crew, militia training

Lords of War__
Renegade Baneblade

The baneblade is bubblewrapped by fearless renegades that provide anything behind each individual squad an improvable 3+ cover save. Each infantry squad comes back onto the board outflanking when they die on the roll of a 2+

>bought a BaC box for no reason
>GW add a faction I can use it for just need to add Cypher
What a fortunate turn of events.

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>>52100102
Nope. All I will say is it's in Texas, because I know some of those guys lurk this site, and I don't want to make anybody feel bad or like I dislike them, because the guy almost certainly is high-functioning autistic and I know he probably can't help it.

>In 2014 I was convinced G-Dubz was squatting Ogryns

Lol what lead you to that conclusion?

Ogryns are the fucking bomb in theory

>>52100000
>>52099999

>>52099430
>pretty long silent period
A couple of months is a really long silent period?

And he was right about Magnus and Guilliman.

I think you're in denial.

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>>52099998
perfection

>>52100149
I hope it's the gw in San Antonio side I've never fucking been and haven't had good reason to

>>52099461
I've seen the gameplay footage. It's unplayable even from a visual standpoint, I won't even get into the gameplay itself because perfect visuals still wouldn't save that.

>>52100163
I guess I'm just not autistic and don't rush to believe everything the rumormongers say since they're only ever slightly right rather than fully right

>>52100131
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-40k-Tau-Riptide-Conversion-/152351504441?hash=item2378db7839:g:n5EAAOSwEzxYTKBg
What exactly am I looking at here?

>>52100116
Cypher is pretty goal oriented. I'm sure he'll be chill down the line. Why would Guilliman not want the Lion Sword near the Emperor, however?

>>52100167
>not cropping the full image, which makes it look like she's stepping on someone's junk
the art in this book's pretty okay

I like that guilliman keeps his hat on all the time.

>>52100131
What in the fuck are those conversions.

I get what both were going for but they failed so miserably.

Also
>Knarloc
>>supremely painted and based

>>52100116
he's going to pull a lando, since darth vader altered his deal

>>52100222
It's obvious. The Lion was a traitor all along but only the Primarchs knew. His sword is a demon blade but he can't share that knowledge with Cypher because it's too dangerous to have it out there.

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>>52100063

>be Robbey Gillyman
>fucking Magnus what a nerd
>what the shit are all these people reading for?
>get the fuck out its fighting time
>mfw

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>>52100225
NO! NO! Sisters of Silence are not for deviance! They totally did not use psychic edging to save the Imperium from being GREENED

>>52100243
If that were true, surely Celestine or someone else would've clocked it previously. I think Girlyman just wants to be daddy's only son for a while.

I want to fuck a space elf

>>52100063
An uneducated people is easier to control, especially when a good portion of the books in there is full of bullshit neither Guilliman or the Emperor want people to believe, including the whole "The Emperor is LITERALLY a god, guys! Like, LITERALLY!" deal.

>>52099910
Paying 50 for 5 instead of 10

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>>52100285

>>52100304
Jokes on you, us Black Templar players already do that to actually use our unique dudes!

>>52099848
>fellow SA prisoner on /tg/
never thought I'd see that

>>52100285
Get in line, Guilliman already has dibs on that ass while the Visarch watches solemnly to make sure he doesn't hurt her with his mighty gauntlet.

>>52100335
>tfw never ever going to see anyone from my store on here for absolutely sure

Kinda sucks, to be honest.

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>>52100342
>it was said that she got so moist during that moment that all the crops of Maccrage were sufficiently watered for the entire growing season

>>52100356
Do we have any idea who that Chaplain on the right is?

Also, where did the Custodian come from? This is on MacCragge still, isn't it?

So which is the best Imperial Knight stats/rules -wise? Excluding the forge world ones ofc.

>>52100342
>>52100356
>girlyman
>not Cawl's built in fuck machines

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>>52100381
Cawl is pure

girls need to stay away

>>52100381
Crusader has the most dakka. Real niggas play with the grabby hand.

Why the FUCK are fiends of slaanesh in units of 3 when gw sells them in 1s for 30 Kanuckbux a pop

>>52100377
>Do we have any idea who that Chaplain on the right is?
Motherfucking Master of Sanctity Ortan Cassius you complete and utter plebian scrub

>>52100131
Is that Knarloc trying to make love to a fuel tank?

>>52100407
Just buy a box of plastic steeds and convert them.

>>52100419
I thought that'd be him. Not having a mauled half-robot face but using the skull mask threw me off.

so how's Marneus taking things? well?

>>52100429
Yeah, Chaplains wear the mask.

>>52100381
>>52100402
I'll append that what Knight you want depends on the shortfalls of your main force. Do you have trouble with MEQ? Do you need to pop tanks?

>>52100342
Poor Visarch.
>Was suppose to be the first person to aware of Ynnead existence and found the first Cronesword. But was chopped to make way for Aeadari Mary-Sue. (Yvraine's Husk Blade magically turn into a Cronesword when she revived, oh wow)
>Worse statline than Yvraine despite being her mentor and invent his owns tyle that Yvraine used. Also no Invul save with GW FAQ say FUCK YOU when asked.

Just nice GW writing at work.

>>52100449
I play Ad Mech. More specifically looking for the right knight for the Ad Mech. War Convocation formation

>>52100430
We don't know what happened to him after the Terran Crusade left Ultramar, but he was pretty much awed and wanking furiously up till that point. The return of his spiritual liege elevated him to new heights.

>>52100439
Of course. Grimaldus is my favourite character.

Just didn't think that Cassius ever uses it.

>>52100430
Having the time of his life, out of the lime light and gets to demote caito to make room in the command chain as everyone shifts down a peg

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What do you guys think about this? I'll sit the librarian and the devs by the reactor for big plasma and psyker rerolls.

I figured I would combat squad the tac squads and park the heavy bolter unit on objectives.

>>52100335
What's your experiences with the lgs' here? Knight watch and knight owl ate the only places I can really bother to frequent besides dragons lair for big apoc shits

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For someone who's apparently a master strategist, Girlyboy really got fucked hard by Chaos multiple times in these spoilers.

>>52100469
If you can fit it, Crusader is always great. Already is built for shitloads of shooting so mounting the carapace missiles is most effective on it.

Otherwise, I'd either go for a Warden or a pure melee one (Gallant was Sword/Fist I think?), since most of your main force will be at range and having a distraction carnifex and melee roadblock can be useful.

>>52100469
The cheapest possible one.

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>>52100471
>>52100478
nice

>>52100483
Neat, but the base divination power doesn't let you re-roll blast RAW since there is no to-hit roll made. Also, any AV 12 or greater is going to wreck you

>>52100286
Plus,all those librarians and bookworms can now be sent to factories.

>>52100469
I play AdMech and I run the Forgeworld Castigator, at larger points I run an Errant alongside it. It'll depend on your comp, though, and if you really can't pick I'd go for the Crusader because it's always a good choice.

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>>52100471
So, do the Gauntlets of Ultramar have an in-built fleshlight or something? Must be hard taming old one-eye with these massive gauntlets.


Just asking for a friend.

>>52100504
Any time it happened it was entirely out of his control.

>>52100512
Ah, well as you can tell I am a noob.

I can drop the reactors and switch to lascannon devs. I assume AV12 means armor value 12, meaning tanks?

>go to local gw store
>guy asks to play test his 1500 point ogryn list
>I agree to play him and ask him if its unbound and he says yes
>I play my riptide wing
>table him in 3 turns

>>52100520
Guilliman jacked one of the gauntlets to make his new gunfist so he has a hand free now.

>>52100519
How hard is the Castigator to build really compared to the plastic knights? I've never worked with resin before, but I've satisfactorily built and painted a couple plastic Imperial Knights, and I'm going to do two more plastic I already have before trying a forgeworld one.

>>52100527
Yeah. Either stack up on lascannons instead or buy some sweet grav, maybe find space for some Centurions if you can bear the awful fucking mini.

>>52100520
What happens to Calgar now that Guilliman is back???

>>52100504

Do you think Tau is stronger than the entire Imperium and the Tyranids too you dumb fuckboy?

So far I counted two plotholes in the Gathering Storm story

1-Skarbrand being in third book fighting girlyman despite being destroyed in book 2
2-Huron having a Blackstone Fortress. It's said that Abaddon gifted Huron a Blackstone but how the fuck did the Blackstone get transported from the Eye of Terror to the Maelstorm without the Imperium or Eldar noticing?

Got anymore?

>>52100562
Yes.

>>52100550
It was kind of a mess, but modern FW has been a lot easier to work with than in the past. Given that I'm in the UK I could easily return a few faulty casts, they're always pretty good about that and will sort you out. Beyond that just make sure you wash the resin and if you plan to drybrush any parts of the mini be incredibly careful because you might actually knock bits off.

>>52100527
AV is armor value, so tanks and walkers. Lascannon devs are never worth it, too many points invested into a model that rarely returns it's worth. Marines are best at the minimum squad size of 5 with a meltagun and a combi-melta on the sergeant. Centurions with grav-guns in a drop pod are amazing as HS, they will delete just about any major threat the turn they hit the table. Librarians you want at ML 2 or 3 rolling on telepathy since it has an amazing primaris power and invisibility. Bikers are probably your best non-FW FA. Terminators with TH+SS are fun and make a good deathstar

>>52100574
1 - He's a daemon lmao
2 - Since the fall and fracture it's been impossible to figure out what the fuck is going on in the galaxy for anyone given all the crazy warp storm happenings. I can buy Abaddon pulling that off.

>>52100596
>he thinks walkers are vehicles

>>52100574
>1-Skarbrand being in third book fighting girlyman despite being destroyed in book 2
He wasn't banished, thus it was easier for it to return earlier
>2-Huron having a Blackstone Fortress. It's said that Abaddon gifted Huron a Blackstone but how the fuck did the Blackstone get transported from the Eye of Terror to the Maelstorm without the Imperium or Eldar noticing?
Warp travel trough the super warp

>>52100561
He leads the Ultramarines while Gman leads the Imperium.

>>52100574
>1-Skarbrand being in third book fighting girlyman despite being destroyed in book 2
He's a daemon, he'll pop out of the warp whenever a writer feels like it's necessary to have a big bad daemon fighting a hero.
>2-Huron having a Blackstone Fortress. It's said that Abaddon gifted Huron a Blackstone but how the fuck did the Blackstone get transported from the Eye of Terror to the Maelstorm without the Imperium or Eldar noticing?
Abaddon got the favour of the Chaosgods, probably even more after destroying Cadia and turning the Eye of Terror into the All-swallowing-butthole-of-hell-that-will-eat-the-whole-galaxy. So warpfuckery it is, I guess.

>>52100102
How's is the Glendale store? All I got is the game empire in Pasadena and they have shit tables.

>>52100427
What with? It's not like I have claws to spare (at least ones large enough)

>>52100574
>...third book fighting girlyman despite being destroyed in book 2

Imagine being Guilliman lurking these threads, seeing all these perma-virgin autists calling him "girlyman"

>>52100666
Woah, calm down there Satan.

>>52100659
its been conquered by Age of Sigmar... not like it was back in the day but its getting better, the manager is an old school veteran of 40k

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>>52100666
>gets trips of slaanesh
You'll find a way anon. Seeps the dark prince smiles on you

>>52100674
My swefriend calls him cuteboy, because apparently it's the literal translation of his name.

>>52100596
I have some centurions but I don't know if I can fit them in at 1000.

Plus I need to take the time to paint them.

I didn't realize lasdevs were looked poorly upon, I thought they were great tank killers, especially for IF.

I really like marines, so I want to have lots of marines with lots of bolter to abuse bolter drill.

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Blood Angels player here, and I'm absolutely terrified.

>>52100703
Don't worry, Sangy will come back and save you or something.

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>>52100703
nice

>>52100703
Maybe nids will finally fuck bangles to death

>>52100703
>Think it'll be Nids getting to do something
>Just BL shit

Fuck

>>52100703
Baal is a radioactive hell hole full of mutants, what else can you do to that wasteland?

>>52100703
As long as it's Ka'bandaha an not some shitty bugs I'll be okay with it.

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>>52100738
Eat it

>>52100744
Fuck off carnac

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Trying to make my first army. Have enough nurgle daemons for 1k, and some slaanesh daemons that I REALLY want to include since he/she is my favorite chaos god. What should I do? I don't have shooting.

>>52100702
you are paying 30-something points per model for a lascanno dev that hits 2/3s of the time. With at most 4 in a squad, giving you 8/3 or 2 2/3 hits vs say AV vs S9, there 1/6 chance of glance, 1/2 chance of penetrating, so 2/3 of stripping a hull point. So 4 lascannons vs a dreadnought is 16/9 or 1 7/9 hull points per turn as your average. The damage output just isn't there.

>>52100755
Carnac?
No. I'd just rather Baal go down to a villain with actual history with the BA rather than some crap npc race nobody cares about and aren't really involved with the BAs.

>>52100755
He is not Carnac, you twit.

Khornate daemons and Tyranids will attack Baal. And Frankly, Ka'Pandaman is a lot of fun going by his appearance in fantasy End Times. A Khornate daemon with a sense of honour and humour.

>>52100738
So were the worlds of the Shield of Baal. They got consumed all the same.

>>52100784
I don't think Baal would fall to Ka'badguy alone. The Sanguinor would no doubt be there, and he's kicked his ass before.

>>52100764
If you want to do Slaanesh, get you an Emperors Children Kakophani detachment to run alongside your Daemons.

Alternatively, get three Soul Grinders with Phlegm Bombardment/the Torrent shooting attack. This is expensive, but Soul Grinders are universally considered to be at worst adequate and at best extremely strong for their points.

>raging heteroes is taking forever to fulfill.

>>52100782
At 1k points I can sort of see the merit in Las Devastators, I mean he can't really fit Centurions without gimping his gunline and at 1k it's highly unlikely he'll be encountering major high AVs, and if he does that's more chance of his devastators making their points back.

>>52100503
Its been a while but alien worlds and dragons lair were the two I used to visit. Haven't been to knight watch yet despite it being like 2 miles from me. I tried to go to the actual GW store on 1604, but the day I stopped by was a Monday.

>>52100782
I'm not disagreeing, I am just trying to figure out what's best to do.

I have 2 boxes of unopened centurions for a sternhammer I am trrying to build, you think I could get some of those on the field?

They are really slow and I can't afford a LR at 1000 points.

>>52100561
Demoted to scout, replaced by Cato Sicarius.

>>52100797
Well I've got this nurgle stuff, so I was thinking I would use an incursion with a tallyband, furies, and some LoW, and use my slaanesh stuff in a CAD, but then comes the question as to how to get my shooting in (I'd have to grab some horrors). EC ARE pretty awesome though. About to paint an aspiring champion pink

>>52100561
currently in charge of ultramar while guilliman goes to earth and unfucks things

he fills the same role as marius gage does in 30k

>>52100782

>want to use Lascannon Havoks for my Night Lords
>love the idea of a bunch of sneaky snipers shooting beams of death
>sounds scary as shit
>have access to Autocannons
>they're strictly better in almost every way in nearly all scenarios
>10pts cheaper per model

>>52100834
Centurions are best using their grav guns. You might not be able to fit them at 1k points easily. Las devs can work at 1k, but are a complete waste at any higher point level. I personally love bringing a dread at 1k points as my anti-tank and centerpiece.

>>52100817
I might honestly be going a little over the top trying to steer for a good base to build from for higher points

At the moment this is my plan to get into 40k
2x Start Collecting Chaos Daemons Nurgle
1x Chaos Spawn
1x Daemon Prince
Pls tell me how retarded i am

>>52100921
I think you're right about the Dread, drop pod melta Dreads are my jam at low points. Still find space for mine in higher point games too.

>>52100925

0% retarded. Sounds like a fun list.

>>52100624
Not to mention the new warp rift around Prospero.

>>52100782
>>52100817

I suppose I could just list what I have, but I really like army building so I've been trying myself.

I am trying to build toward an 1850-2000 point sternhammer list.

I have 2 B@C boxes, a FW contemptor, 3 rhinos, 1 vindicator, 1 LR, 2 Cent boxes, 2 Dev boxes, 2 assault marine boxes

3 termy librarians, a captain, darnath lysander, a scout squad


...

I think that's all I have.

Oh and haemotrope reactors

>>52100925
Pretty retarded but start collecting boxes are always good and daemon princes are a staple that you will end up using at some point or another. Don't know about Spawn though. I used them once and they died like bitches but I'm only a tourist as far as Chaos is concerned. I main DE.

>>52100955
Wasn't Prospero turned into a giant chaos planet?

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What's the best way to run Metamorph Hybrids?
I was thinking of giving all of them the Crushing Claws, so they can chew through anything with their strength 6.
To be honest though, I'm not quite sure what their specialty is.

>>52100782
>tfw DG havocs did 5/6 HP on a knight in one round tonight

>>52100824
Knight watch is pretty dope, by the community for the community sort of place with a tavern theme and the owner's two huge super friendly huskies roaming about, they cast their own terrain and a lot of other really cool shit. Knight owl is chill but they only have two warhammer tables, the arcade they're connected to is a bonus. Never been to the gw but I've never heard of anyone who HAS, it's weird.

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Speaking about the Blood Angels.

The new Dante novel had plenty of the new lore from Gathering Storm, Traitor Hate/Angel's Blade, and Shield of Baal. A nice lore update for the Blood Angels. Also it included a Prophecy from the Blood Angel Primarch himself that foretells the future and the final on Terra (picture related). It raises a lot of interesting questions.

1-What the hell is this great hunger that will consume Baal, and why is it after the Emperor?
2-If the Emperor is unconscious, then how his power is being spread and directed
3-How will the return of the Emperor change things?
4-Who is the golden warrior?

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>>52100947
I can do this, I have a FW drop pod but I don't want to go FW in case someone spergs out.

>>52100953
Not really sure how to expand on it for larger points games, maybe dip out of nurgle or try to find a Great Unclean One?
>>52100976
I want the Daemon Prince and Chaos Spawn because i know i need those to do any Chaos Space Marines stuff because those nerds randomly turn into them. Also i want to play lots of Kill Team and like 90% of these models (everything but DP?) can be used in HOR kill team so i could do some fun stuff like chaos spawn + nurglings as very few things in kill team have more than 1 wound.

>>52100985
Their specialty is looking cool as fuck, if you can magnetize them entirely so you aren't limited to wysiwyg

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>>52100720
Hopefully.

>>52100784
>I'd just rather Baal go down to a villain with actual history with the BA rather than some crap npc race nobody cares about and aren't really involved with the BAs.
>has never heard of Space Hulk
>is unaware of the six (6) Tyranid-centric supplements leading up to this moment
>calls Tyranids an NPC race when they've done more damage to the Imperium in the last ten years than Chaos has done in the last 10,000
Newfags, I swear

>>52100985
take the claws, maybe 1 or 2 whips
having s6 rending is fucking awesome, probably give em hand flamers as well

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Tips for Dark Angles? Besides putting churches on things?

>>52100206
a riptide with pieces of metal gear ray glued onto it

>>52101020
Pretty sure the Crushing Claws replace the Rending Claws.

>>52100985
Either give them all claws, or do a 3/2 split of claws to lashwhips.

>>52100998
1 - Great hunger is nids, they're drawn to the astronomicon.
2 - The Golden Throne acts as the guiding light of the Astronomicon.
3 - I guess the Imperium will be saved.
4 - The Sanguinor comes into his own as Sanguinius.

List building is weird at first, redundancy is more important than versatility most often. Use a contemptor or 2 with marines, rhinos, and a chapter master at 1k points. FW has storm sheilds for IF cataphractii termis now so you can easily turn your cataphractii termis into SS/TH if you want to field termis in either game. The best use of devs and assault marines is sky hammer, it's 2 squads of devs in drop pods + 2 squads of assault marines. All of them can DS t1, devs gain relentless and assault marines can charge. Devs need magnets so that you won't hate yourself if you want to be WYSWYG, namely MM and grav are 2 best atm. Plasma devs + haemotrope could be fun at 2k points in a casual game where you could spare the points for that, low points there just isn't room for it.

>>52101034
they do not
its in addition to, which is what makes them potentially scary

>>52101007
Anyone reasonable will have no problem with you proxying the FW as a standard if you don't want to use it as FW.

>>52101047
Meant for >>52100971, my bad

>>52101019
>>calls Tyranids an NPC race when they've done more damage to the Imperium in the last ten years than Chaos has done in the last 10,000

Wrong, Chaos damaged the Imperium more than the Tyranids. It's an undisputed fact. That's why Black Crusades always take higher priority than the Tyranids in the Imperium calculus.

Ka'Pandaman was stated to be going to Baal at the same time the Tyranids in 5th ED. The Tyranids are not related the Blood Angels. They are just there for food. They make for a boring enemy. Ka'Pandaman being there is a literal godsend.

>>52100989
>Never been to the gw but I've never heard of anyone who HAS, it's weird.
lmao, I just texted a TTG friend about that place and he said the exact same thing.
>the franchise that time forgot

>>52101042
>1 - Great hunger is nids, they're drawn to the astronomicon.

Tyranids don't eat stars. Clearly it's the C'tan.

>>52101026
Play to their Arthurian aesthetic. GW are bad at this, so you might have to kitbash a lot.

>>52101053
I didn't see an option for contemptors to take drop pods without FW rules


>>52101061
I figured. You used a few acronyms I didn't get, SS/TH?

I've heard sky hammer is good but It's really important to me to do something IF fluffy so I want to use sternhammer.

>>52101052
Shit, I read the Codex wrong. That is really strong.

>>52101007

Yea, fucking forgeworld
>pulls out riptide wing
Fucking faggots using overpowered forgeworld shit
>places scatbikes
I only play with fair and balance models from games workshop!
>positions wraith knights
Not some fucking third party bullshit

>>52101065
Tyranids and Chaos are the two biggest antagonists of the setting.
I don't think one is really greater than the other.

Often do you guys play narrative games, and what rules do you use to Forge the Narrative?

>>52100998
>1-What the hell is this great hunger that will consume Baal, and why is it after the Emperor?
Are you fucking retarded?

HMMMM WHAT FACTION IN 40k IS ASSOCIATED WITH HUNGER AND BEING A RAVENOUS SHADOWY DRAGON RISING OUT OF THE VOID, CURRENTLY BEARING DOWN ON BAAL, THIS IS A REALLY DIFFICULT METAPHOR.

>>52101081
I see the Nids opening the way for the Void Dragon's release, but I'm reaching.

>>52101065
I don't think he meant to the imperium exclusively desu

>>52101100
>I don't think one is really greater than the other.

Incorrect.
Chaos is repeatedly stated to be the most dangerous.

>>52101100
>I don't think one is really greater than the other.

Except one the fluff repeatedly tells you that Chaos is greatest threat, and that the Tyranids, Necrons, and Orks pale before its menace.

Tyranids are at number 2.

>>52101099
I don't get the meme there, lol

>>52101105
I'll take chaos for 500, Alex.

>>52099295

Marines Mk 2, while fucking gay as hell, is a brilliant thing for them to sell models.

There are so many space marines out there. There are so many space marines that you could assemble like a 15,000 point army and never walk into a GW. Even when they release new types of marines, it's super easy to approximate with the oceans of bits out there.

I'm thinking marines mk. 2 will be almost as big as Robby G himself. Sure people will be pissed, but you know space marine players will buy them.

>>52101091
You're right, but I don't think it's a huge oversight. If it comes to it you can proxy your Contemptor as a regular Dread anyway, it'd allow you more free points in a 1k game anyway, a contemptor is a big target.

>>52101119
That only applies to Slaanesh.

>>52101105
The Void Dragon?

>>52101065
>Wrong, Chaos damaged the Imperium more than the Tyranids. It's an undisputed fact.
Literally post pics then, because multiple Tyranid Codexes state otherwise. Kryptman in no uncertain terms said that the first Tyrannic War and Battle For Macragge were the most dangerous days for the Imperium since the Horus Heresy, and Hive Fleet Leviathan was said to cause the Imperium to inflict more damage on itself than any time since the Horus Heresy without even counting the damage the Hive Fleet actually did directly, and that's also not counting the major fleet in-between, Kraken.

>>52100976
They're pretty important for CSM both for Boon results, as well as cheap auxiliary in Traitor Legions decurions.

>>52101091
Storm shield, thunder hammer. I prefer fluffy as well, it's good to have a fluffy list and a more competitive list so you can aim to match what your opponent is bringing to give both of you a better game.

>>52101007
Definitely better, would drop a marine so your librarian can ride in one of the rhinos though. The FW rules for contemptors are much better, more options, same base points cost though

>>52101111
Dangerous for its own reasons because it primarily undermines the Imperiums integrity.
Tyranids also does that but its threat is invasion.
They are both objectively the biggest threats because either one can potentially wipe the galaxy.

>>52101114
Some people think Forgeworld rules are horribly broken.
Which they ARE but not anymore than core GW rules.

>>52101138
>Dangerous for its own reasons

No. Chaos is simply far more dangerous than Tyranids.

>>52101081
The Tyranids are described as the Shadow in the Warp, the darkness from the intergalactic void beyond known space that will snuff out the light of the Imperium. In pretty much every symbolic representation of them ever this is exactly how they are described. The C'Tan don't even truly exist anymore, they all got sharded in the newcron retcon.

Im playing Combat Patrol this weekend against GSC. I am using DW and want to make it a fun narrative mission.

What rules should I use?

>>52099359

I hope that's the case.

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Today I ran the first session of my Model UN Simulation for the War of the Beast.

It was basically the high lords of terra acting like they normally do in response to the Ork invasion.
Here was happened

>Everyone learns Orks are attacking
>Administratum begins being exterminates type weapons.
>The Inquisition declared the Head Ecclisiarch was a traitor and got them arrested. This was BS.
>The Head Astropath figured out the inquisitor had made a BS story about the Ecclisiarchy but said nothing.
>The Inquisition sent spies to the attack moon to discover what was going on. They got killed but learned the ork’s were evolving and got half of a battle plan for the ork attack moon.
>The Head Arbiter tried to assassinate the Inquisition but failed.
>The Head Astropath tries to read everyone’s texts and learns very little.
>The Navy finally begins sending fast ships to intercept the attack moon wherever it appears.
>The IG appear on worlds and try to hold off the orks but find them too numerous to defeat and are quickly spread thin.
>The Head of Assassins tried to kill the Lord Admiral but failed.
>Inquisition gives Assassins spies to watch the Lord Admiral.
>Administratum and Assassins team up with Mechanicus to sent cloaked spies into the ork attack moon to disable it.
>Over all this time the orks have managed to destroy around 10% of all imperial worlds.

End of first session. Very chaotic but definitely got the feel for the high lords and the people seemed to be into it.

>>52101147
Go away Carnac, people are sick of you shitposting your headcanons.

>>52099217
fuck off ABD, go write chaos fapfiction

>>52101105
Ratlings, these nasty voracious critters.

>>52101126
I might try that, I have a fully painted word bearer contemptor from when I just painted it as B@C looked.

>>52101135
Ok ty, I might make a FW and non FW list. What should I do with my HQ? If I drop a marine I lose hvy bolter.

>>52101143
Oh... I guess thatd piss people off. But Yes I see a lot of those gundam-riptides at my LGS.

>>52101169
Not Carnac.
Not head canon.
This is simple fact.
Nidfags are simply delusional for some reason.

>>52099277
Didn't somebody post here a few months ago about new Super space Marines coming and saying to screencap the post. He even went into detail something to do with their blood or something.

Does anyone remember that?

>>52101148
The best way to look at it is the Tyranids are the biggest material universe threat. Representing the Xenos threat.
Chaos is the biggest supernatural threat and represents and external, existential threat.

>>52100925
>1xChaos Spawn
Literally the only model you can't use from that list. So pretty good.

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>>52101132
Kryptman is not unbiased source.

Black Crusades burn thousands of worlds and corrupt them. They destroyed the Pylons that keep the Warp and reality separate which increased the power and spread of existing warpstorms and spawned new ones. It increased the number of daemonic incursion and warp holocausts all over the galaxy. People now are exploding into daemons left and right into daemons. Thousands of worlds are being lost in mere moments because of this. Not to mention all the corruption within the Imperium that's boiling to a breaking point now.

The Imperium is reeling not because of the Tyranids but because the might of Chaos waxing. The Tyranids cannot hope to do that much damage at a short span of time.

>>52101130
You're being too literal.

Tyranids are the Faction associated with the concepts of Cold, Night, and Void, because they come from the immeasurable black empty cold space outside out galaxy, and they leave behind empty dead cold lifeless things in their wake. Their presence in the Warp is a massive Shadow, contrasting the drug-trip riot of colour and noise and nauseating light that is Chaos.

The Eldar, also, describe the Tyranids as a whole metaphorically as a great dragon with many heads.

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>>52101203
Those trillions of psykers scattered across the galaxy? Every single one of them is a ticking time body that will explode at any moment as the power of Chaos continues to wax.

And they are doing that. Picture relate

>>52101202
Daemons cant take Spawn? Shit. May wish to hold out on them till i have more than ten CSM then. Thanks for that. Is there anything you might reccomend instead? It might seem like im overly attached to nurgle but i don't think i am, its just nurgle has the coolest start collecting box.

>>52101203
>The Tyranids cannot hope to do that much damage at a short span of time.
Their first Hive Fleet destroyed a full quarter of the entire Imperial Navy in the galaxy.

Their third caused the Imperium to sac hundreds of worlds with their own fucking weapons just to slow it down and they still haven't managed to stop it and it's about to eat the homeworld of a First Founding Chapter.

The Black Crusades never burned "thousands of worlds", they hit a few in small raiding parties each time because they couldn't get around Cadia, which only now has actually fallen.

The way I see it there's only two ways for 40k to end-end, nids nom the galaxy and chaos frogposters reee in eternal frustration, or the milky way becomes a super eye of terror and nids fuck off to another galaxy because they don't do warp too good
Either way the bugs win desu

>>52100055
Sisters already have WS and BS 4.
SoS are sisters with A2 I5 and access to S4 AP2 swords that strike at their int.

And all that Anti-psyker stuff to, I guess.

>>52101184
You are literally Carnac, you dumb faggot, do you think we can't recognize your style of shitposting? You use the same autistic speech patterns every time.

>>52101234
I dunno, you already have a good amount of stuff right there, anon. Unlike the other Start Collecting boxes, the Daemons ones don't have a formation included for 40k, but since they all come with a Herald, Elite or Fast Attack, and Troop, two of them is perfect, since that's two heralds, two troops, and two elite/fast attack for a CAD. The unique thing about Heralds is that you can take 4 per HQ slot, which means that you could take both Heralds and the Daemon Prince in a CAD.

>>52101263
>You are literally Carnac

I literally am not.

>do you think we can't recognize your style of shitposting?

More Nidfag delusion.

>>52101260
No, Sisters have WS3. SoS are the Emperor's personal mute blank atheist witch hunters, and the Custodes are his personal bodyguards and army, which is why they have elite gear and stats.

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>>52101253
>Their first Hive Fleet destroyed a full quarter of the entire Imperial Navy in the galaxy.

Wat.

>Their third caused the Imperium to sac hundreds of worlds with their own fucking weapons just to slow it down and they still haven't managed to stop it and it's about to eat the homeworld of a First Founding Chapter.

Still not a match to the destructive displays of Chaos. Warpstorms and massed daemonic incursions that are happening now outstrip the Tyranids by a long mile.

>The Black Crusades never burned "thousands of worlds",

Yes, they did.

>they hit a few in small raiding parties each time because they couldn't get around Cadia

Picture related. You really don't know much about Black Crusades do you? All Black Crusades got around and bypassed Cadia. Some of them were massive invasions that devastated entire sectors before retreating back to the Eye. They were not "small raids". Serious, get out.

>>52101257
If Tyranids eat everything majority of the other antagonists die out as they either get eaten or have no reason to exist. Because Tyranid victory fulfills other factions victory conditions.
If Chaos wins then Tyranids would just become consumed by Chaos and get extinguished.

>>52101257
Nah, Tyranids are going the way of the Skaven.

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Thinking about using pic related for my Night Lord chaos spawn. They're somewhat fitting, and I don't have to call them daemons. They can just be monsters they release to scare the shit out of people.

Thoughts?

>>52101314
You mean they win? Because skaven won wfb and are now everywhere.

>>52101314
But skaven WON you dip

>>52101321

I was thinking the exact same thing for my own army. Good choice.

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This is what I can do with a FW contemptor, it says that the sergeant has too many eviscerators?

Is that a bug or can you not have melta bomb and eviscerator?

>>52101321
Good choice. Spawn can't fly though, so you might want to find something else to do with the wings.

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>>52101325
Yes-yes we did

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>new book
>constant epic 1d4chan tier ultramarine memes

God I cant wait for the next book to be teased so this can end

>>52101321
But anon, Spawn are Daemons, and what happens if the gods decide they don't like you. Like it or not, the NL sealed their fate by becoming tainted with chaos. They gods' eyes are upon them as CSM. 'Tis only their fault for not embracing it.

They look great though, my only problem is that I like the regular spawn models more. But that's just a matter of opinion.

>>52101324
>>52101325
Actually, the Skaven lost and had to beg mainstream Chaos for a place at their side.

The whole plan of the Skaven Ascendancy was to launch a massive Ratkrieg all over the world which great displays of power in order to impress mainstream Chaos enough so that they would be accepted as masters or equals.

This dis not happen. The Dwarf and Lizardmen campaigns were really disastrous and lowered the Skaven fighting ability to the point that their main plan was a failure. The lost their chance to impress mainstream Chaos and so to survive they had to beg Archaon to be his slaves in order to buy time to teleport Skavenblight out.

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If I painted some of my daemonettes like https://youtu.be/AsOoYDMxy9U and some just the classic purples, would my force still look good, or would it look too mush mashed?

>>52101340
Like sell me them so I can make Tyranid shrikes because for all intents and purposes they're better warriors for the exact same Fucking cost

>In lore Tyranids are probably the most dangerous faction in the galaxy
>In the actual game theyre shit

What did GW mean by this?

>>52101271
And a CAD is some kind of new version of the force organization chart right? I should definitely give that a quick read through then. Being able to take lots of the heralds sounds pretty good because they seem to be able to carry items that buff other daemons and can provide a bit of killy power to the relatively tarpitty nurgle shit i was looking at.
>>52101387
Isn't it the same with Orks? I don't know about that though, I'm pretty sure the Imperium murders the most living things so aren't they the biggest bad?

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>>52101387
Complex religious symbolism on Christianity and the greater good

>>52101369
>being this autistic

>>52101387
>>In lore Tyranids are probably the most dangerous faction

Nah, Chaos is.

>>52101387
They balanced in accordance to fluff. Sure Nids are bad, but you're expected to be outnumbering your opponents millions to one, with Instinctive Behaviour as your one weakness.

See? It's not bad game design, it's game design so good it's become entirely integrated with the fluff!

With all of the Chaos vs Nid autism going around I have not seen anyone using the Shadow in the Warp as an example, isn't it stated to completely shit on any psychic connections? And yet whenever nids vs daemons they don't immediately blink out of existence, how powerful is the Shadow really?

>>52101374
Maybe if you make the more numerous color Allures or something? I don't think it'd be a big deal.

>>52101327

Night minds think alike?

>>52101340

I was thinking about chains or something holding them down since they'd need to be controlled somehow. However, I'm. Kg that great at Greenstuff. I could also tear up the wings a bit or something.

>>52101366

Yea, I get that. Hell, I even have a Prince. I just figured that they would see the spawn as week and kill it after someone turned rather than keep it around because unlike a Prince, it's just a mindless shit.