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>>52093862
How's it feel playing the biggest FotM deck in existence?

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>>52094622
>You
>Not retarded
Pick one

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>>52094645
Thanks for the (you) and next time make a good general.

>Playing
Nothing
>Brewing
BG Infect
>Hating
Nothing. Everything is pretty fair and I have deep respect for DSJ because it's a good deck. I just have to be a special snowflake though.
>Unbans
Wizards give me my probe back. Otherwise nothing

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>>52094783
>Playing infect
>Still

>playing
Spellweaver still
>Brewing
gonna try a couple main board extractions. Could be a good follow-up from an inquisition to take another card or a way to swing the tron/eldrazi matchups w/ ghost quarter. just not sure what to cut, my first instinct is conflagrate but I'm not sure what's better in g1 in most cases. I board it out with relative frequency, but it can really swing a board state.
>Hating
How popular surgical is, because it is a pretty good answer against my own plan.

>>52095549
Your deck is just worse dredge in every way

>>52095581

it's hardly even comparable to dredge, it doesn't have a remotely similar game plan

>>52095649
You put shit in the graveyard in a similar way then try to abuse what's there. You could just be dredging creatures.
Your combo is so inconsistent and delicate and you lose to the same hate as dredge. It doesn't matter that your win con is a meme, dredge is just better at doing graveyard shenanigans

I guess I'll ask here. So for the past 3 months I haven't won a single game with Hatebears, and have been considering converting it to another deck for some time now. With a budget of around $600 what would be a good way to convert it into?

>>52095687

yes but dredge is uninteractive and doesn't take advantage of the Loam engine the same way. at least compare it to loam pox or zombie loam if you're gonna shit on it

>>52095716
You could use the vials for Merfolk, Eldrazi&Taxes, or Death&Taxes

>>52095762
Repeatedly casting retrace cards is not interaction.

>>52095716
whats your list?

>>52095716
Play eldrazi and taxes

Eldrazi displacer is one of the most powerful and fun cards printed recently

>>52095830

clearly you know what the deck looks like, so why are you tryna bait like that?

>>52093862
Death's Shadow is degenerate

>>52095925
Because I've played it. It's awful

Well shit I feel hella retarded. I just took another look at the deck and I find its still technically not done. Well I guess another option would be to finish it I guess but I'm still up to the idea of converting it to something else.

4 Bird of Paradise
4 Path to Exile
1 Dismember
2 Qasali Pridemage
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Leonin Arbiter
2 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
4 Mirran Crusader
3 Hushwing Gryff
3 Loxodon Smiter
4 Collected Company
4 Windswept Heath
4 Temple Garden
1 Canopy Vista
1 Techtonic Edge
4 Ghost Quarter
2 Gavony Township
4 Plains
4 Forest

Sideboard
3 Sunlance
1 Dismember
3 Kor Firewalker
2 Rest in Peace
2 Stony Silence


Yeah I forgot how shit this list was. Still taking suggestions for either upgradeing or converting

>>52096014
for
>>52095808
>>52095872
>>52095858

>>52096004

sounds like a (You) problem

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Going to my first fnm tomorrow, piloting naya burn. Hope we all do great

>>52096014
>CoCo
>No Vials

It's time for Allies my man

4x Blackcleave Cliffs
1x Blood Crypt
4x Bloodstained Mire
1x Forest
1x Godless Shrine
1x Kessig Wolf Run
1x Mountain
1x Overgrown Tomb
1x Stomping Ground
1x Swamp
3x Wooded Foothills
4x Architects of Will
4x Deadshot Minotaur
4x Fulminator Mage
1x Jungle Weaver
4x Monstrous Carabid
4x Pale Recluse
3x Simian Spirit Guide
4x Street Wraith
3x Demonic Dread
3x Living End
3x Beast Within
4x Violent Outburst
Side:
2x Anger of the Gods
3x Faerie Macabre
3x Gnaw to the Bone
3x Ingot Chewer
1x Krosan Grip
2x Ricochet Trap
1x Slaughter Games

Thoughts/cards you'd rather run? SB mostly vs Burn and Affinity with some concessions to opposing combo and UWR/Grixis, the main gameplan is already solid vs Eldrazi/BGx/DSJ. No Faeries main since they just die to Minotaur if your opponent doesn't have anything to exile (most of the time they don't). No Groves to keep the deck reasonably priced and don't like the notion of giving opponent life. Godless Shrine to hardcast Recluse. I feel 7 Cascades is plenty.

>>52096014
go gw aggro with wilt-leaf liege, voice of resurgence, scavenging ooze, and knight of the reliquary. you could also splash black for early hand disruption, lingering souls, and rhino

>>52096119
Just ordered the cheap (lol) parts for Naya Burn. Super happy the fetches got reprinted so now i can buy the rest without having to save

tfw eat a turn 1 etched champion turn 3 plating

>>52096365
Happy for you man. When I get my new job I get to buy goblin guides (currently using spark elementals in it's place)

>>52096350

I wish Goyf, Lili and the GB fetch wernt so expensive or else I'd go Junk with this deck. Those 3 cards alone are about $750 for a playset of each, and I really don't wanna try building this as a budget option. Would the option to convert to BW Eldrazi Taxes or Bantdrazi be viable/within budget or is that also very expensive to do?

>>52097140
BW eldrazi is like 200 tops if you have vials already. Bant has more raw power but is more susceptible to early disruption.
The mass amount of synergies in taxes is much more fun

>>52097198
Displacer and Flickerwisp is very oppressive. It's not the best deck but I sure get a kick out of it

r8 my meme brew

4 Aether Vial
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
3 Maralen of the Mornsong
4 Leonin Arbiter
2 Eldrazi Displacer
2 Restoration Angel
3 Aven Mindcensor
4 Flickerwisp
1 Spellskite
3 Blade Splicer
2 Selfless Spirit
1 Athreos, God of Passage
2 Tidehollow Sculler
4 Path to Exile
4 Ghost Quarter
3 Plains
4 Isolated Chapel
1 Fetid Heath
4 Godless Shrine
3 Caves of Koilos
1 Swamp
2 Vault of the Archangel

SB: 1 Pithing Needle
SB: 1 Grafdigger's Cage
SB: 2 Burrenton Forge-Tender
SB: 1 Tidehollow Sculler
SB: 1 Kor Firewalker
SB: 1 Mark of Asylum
SB: 1 Rest in Peace
SB: 1 Leyline of Sanctity
SB: 2 Stony Silence
SB: 1 Blessed Alliance
SB: 1 Celestial Purge
SB: 1 Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 Wrath of God

>>52094783
how is infect holding up?,

>>52097410
maralen is bad, you just bolt them to let them look for an answer to whatever's on your board? god help you versus combo

>>52097687
Does Mindcensor and maralen not work the way I think it does?

>DSJ meme
I beat DSJ with bolt plus helix and snaps
Come at me negros

>>52097709
i doubt you'll get both to stick besides a turn that you vial mindcensor nigga

>>52097709
also urborg should be in there if you're running chapels and more fetid heaths I think the B stuff you put in doesn't bring too much to the table

>no fatal push

I'd give it a 6/10

>>52097709
Would you also run goblin grenade in burn for that very small chance of hiring guide?
Same principle

>>52096365
nice, i wanted to build burn too but my meta is just removal (aka fatal push) heavy. hope you got your eidolons cheap

>>52097806
>urborg
I considered it, but didn't like it because it lets opponents cast dismember without paying as much life
>fatal push
Replace path with push or add both?

>>52097410
>meme brew
You just took some good cards out of eldrazi taxes and replaced them with bad cards

>>52097856
hey, I never said it was a good meme

>>52097827
what's your meta like? it depends but i'd run a mix of both (something like 3-2)

i like urborg since you're running 4 chapel and only 8 lands that can trigger them, although i think it's cause dismember isn't popular here (or anywhere?)

>>52097876
Fair point, I'll drop an urborg in for testing along with the pushes

So I play bogles usually but got a buddy making an infect deck and another making an eldrazi set up.

What's some good ways to dominate them and spend less than $100?

It's friendly so I don't want to go full on money deck for friendly fun. I just want to win.

>>52098276
>making infect
>after probe ban
Embarrassing tbqh

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>>52098328
It's casual friendo. No bans upheld in friend magic night.

I've still got a modern event deck sealed. Am I sitting on a gold mine yet?

>>52098457
Cool, can I bring my tinker deck?

>>52098537
Yeah just come to daves on monday nights for friendo magic night.

>>52098623
>T1 Mox Mox Mox Tinker one into Blightsteel, Lotus, Greaves, equip, attack for 11 infect

>>52093862
I've been playing the deck for a few weeks and I love it. Playing at the open in Dallas this weekend
I took the Collective Brutality out of the main board and replaced it with Anguished Unmaking. Works so-so

>>52098713
BOGLE

Goyf ban when

is there a deck that lets me cryptic command 8 times in a game

>>52098848
>what is eternal command

say no more senpai

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>>52098848

>>52098623
>workshop
>sol ring
>mox
>key
>time vault

Is there any budget option for Goyf? I see people mention Scooze and Flayer but is there any others that can take Goyfs place? Could
Moldgraf Scavenger work?

Okay I'm gonna make Ponza but I'm not gonna run Blood Moon for now just to make it cheaper. I imagine they'll come right down after MM17 anyway, especially 8th edition.

>>52098886
Neither of those come anywhere close to Goyf.
You can drop him as a 5/6 on turn 2 for no drawbacks.

>>52098886
Scooze, Flayer, Tasigur, Hooting Mandrills are your best bets
>Moldgraf

if you're going super budget then yeah he'll work

>>52098886
[Spoiler] Vinelasher Kudzu [/spoiler]

>>52098886
In what deck?

>>52098911
be sure to pick em up within two months before the wannabe investors artificially drive prices up

>>52098970

Junk. I wanna consider all my options before deciding to drop trying to build it.

>>52098947

May try Tasigur since I have 2 of him already.

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Death's Shadow Jund has 8 fucking threats main board and it's still the most weirdly fucking resilient deck I've ever fucking seen

>>52099039
junk absolutely needs goyf because it's so mana efficient, just pick em up they're dropping like valuable yet abundant

junk lists also already run flayer and tasigur

>>52099048
A better GSZ and 8 cantrips will do that to a deck.

>>52099048
cus of the recursion and disruption, they pluck removal with 8 discard spells and recur with LOTV 2.0 and kolagahan's

>>52099048
I mean it's a 52 card deck after the can trips and traverse mates 4 more threats. If you aren't drawing threats you're drawing a shitload of disruption, so your opponent isn't going to have much going for them either.

>>52099048
You can get rid of answers to your threats and K Command them back.
You're playing a 52 card deck, so you're far more likely to draw them, and you have 4 copies of Traverse, so you can basically Chord them out for 1 mana.

>>52098978
The only thing I'm worried about investors driving up are the cards that didn't get reprinted the number of cards doubling in price since the spoilers is getting out of hand.

>>52099127

oh boy do i have bad news for you

DSJ seems pretty rad. I'm too poor to afford it without selling off my Bant Eldrazi deck though, should I go for it?

>>52099426
Do it. DSJ is fucking amazing

>>52099426
Do nothing until the 13th. Except buy Splinter Twin for the speculation meme.

>>52099506
Done. I just bought 4 foil Twins despite already owning a non-foil set from my old Twin deck.

Time to meme

>>52099506
I don't think the deck will see another ban after just one month, and as far as speculation memes go you should also not forget to sell your mox opals as it is very clear that a vintage power level card like it will be banned.

>>52099690

Wow. Hilarious. Even after the hundredth time

>>52099690
It truly is vintage level. I run 4 of them in my DSJ deck for that bauble synergy

>>52097818
Just go white heavy?

Played living end in a friendly match tonight and got memed on by esper control
>LE comes off suspend
>he counters
>cascade into LE
>he thinks for a moment
>taps out to cast esper charm
>wonder what good that does, he tapped out doesn't matter what he draws-
>he declares target player discards two cards, targeting himself
>he discards sun titan and grave titan
>oh fuck me
>sun titan brings back a wall of omens for Xtra fuck me
>scoop it up

Lessons learned: esper is the shard of autism

>>52100034
That's pretty awesome. I'mma brew me up some esper.

>>52099690
who the fuck is actually nonironically thinking DSJ will be banned?

Is there an m/tg/ discord for xmage/cockatrice testing?

Would anyone use it?

>>52100064
I give it one more cycle, it's only been a deck for a short while and it's not like eldrazi levels yet

>>52100070
>Would anyone use it?
Yeah, shitposters and furries.

>>52100123
If it weren't for the reprints I'd say it would have been too expensive to ever hit those levels.

>if you aren't playing this archtype every single other person is playing because its the only viable archtype in this broken format, KYS

why is modern a thing still?

>>52100205

>modern has only 1 archetype
>it literally has everything
> except control

go back to your trash standard format faggot

>>52100254
standard is even shittier. standard>Frontier>Modern>Legacy/vintage/etc>EDH

>>52100205
Modern is the most diverse format, fuck off blue fag
>muh 100% blue format legacy is the best

>>52100289
>Most diverse format
lmao

>>52100275
that's not fair to frontier, it could be even shittier than standard if anyone actually played it

>>52100289
>Modern is the most diverse format
20 different shades of aggro.

>>52100289
>>52100307
>>52100336

Modern is definitely diverse in terms of actual decks, lots of viable archetypes but mostly restricted among aggro, midrange, and combo. No true control decks aside from prison.

>>52100310
kek'd, frontier players BTFO

>>52100397
>Lots of diverse archetypes
>So what do you want your goyf and supporting creature cast to be?

>>52100412
weak meme, nobody is actually at your level of retardation to put goyf in RG breach

>>52100397
How can people really think modern is diverse. Have they never even heard of EDH. Is there even a format besides EDH or Pauper that isnt fundamentally broken?

>>52100412
miracles makes up more of the legacy meta than all decks in modern running goyf put together, and goyf is at the highest % it's been in a long time

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So I'm back faggots. I've tuned my kithkin deck to beat the DSJ deck and I can't believe nobody has caught on yet. So far in my testing the only weak matchup is living end, I really think I'm on to something here

>>52100437
>EDH
>Casual format
>diverse

>>52100437
>EDH
Any format can look diverse when no one's decks are remotely optimized.

>>52100484
Actually kind of funny this time

>>52100484
10/10

>>52100484
>So far in my testing the only weak matchup is living end

Just don't play anything and discard to hand size :^)

>>52100034
That's amazing. That guy deserves a cookie.

>Spoils of the Vault
>Eternal Scourge
Have we got a deck here? Just use Spoils as a draw spell for cards you know there's 4 copies of left in your deck and bam, you're pseudo drawing every Eternal Scourge you hit.

>>52101178
Wow that totally sounds worth it! A vanilla 3/3?! Game breaking

>>52101208
>Using NotVampiricTutor to tutor up cards while also drawing free value on top
Yeah sounds pretty bad to me.

>>52101225
You're retarded if you actually believe this

>>52101178
yeah, or kill yourself when the named card is not in the top third of your library

>>52101178
What are you even going for that you need that badly if you aren't combing?
Are some 3/3 recursive threats really worth potential game loss?

>>52100484

I take everything back I like your style kithkin tribal anon

>>52100484
This doesn't look like anything my DSJ can't steamroll.

>>52102015

it's a meme you dip

>>52098946

It can happen but 90% of the time it's a 4/5 turn 2 unless your going against a meme deck like affinity.

>>52102296
>affinity
>meme deck

>>52102333
Yeah, it's a meme deck, just like Jund, Tron, and Burn. The only true deck left in modern is Merfolk.

>>52102365
You mean 12post.

>>52102333

>Implying tier 1 decks went meme.
>implying I wasn't being ironic when talking about the most meme green creature in the format

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Spicy tech coming through

>>52102496
Celestial Purge already sees a bit of sideboard player here and there

>>52102496
Why not just use Blessed Alliance? They're both 2 mana, they both stop 1 creature, but Blessed Alliance has multiple options for late game.

>>52102538
I think the blocking part is nice.

>>52102496
how is this not just a worse celestial purge?

>>52102646
It can fog anyone, I'd assume, maybe some big creature, but I don't know what

>>52102690
fair enough, I overlooked that

>>52102646
It's also easier to splash. Although I assume decks with other colours wouldn't really need this

>>52102753
celestial purge is also 1W

>>52101178
Spoils into what though? Sure, it's neat, but what the fuck else are you doing that makes these cards worth running?

>>52102918
Spoils into spoils

>>52102929
Fling some Death's Shadows while you're at it.

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>>52100289
>>muh 100% blue format legacy is the best
>blue

ur doin it wrong

>>52103229
What do you think of modern eldrazi and taxes?

>>52098623
finally my 29 Black Lotus 29 Wheel of fortune 2 Library of Leng deck can see the light of day again.

>>52103229
mah nigga
>Deathan
>Taxan
>Laughan at modern babby D&T lists

>>52103252
>What do you think of modern eldrazi and taxes?
it's fine. i personally prefer mono-white thought-knot taxes or uw jerks to bw e&t because i firmly believe sculler-processor is too cute and takes up 7-8 slots that could be flying beats. the amount of times i've had to weight processing a card versus killing one of my own dudes with the -3/-3 effect because the other guy didn't actually have creatures is non-zero and effectively gives me a 5-mana thoughtsieze that costs two cards from my hand and generates a bear.

Anyone try the dank Grixis Delver Shadow list?

I'm a new player to magic. I picked up a cheap standard deck but i don't like the idea to loose all my cards every rotation. So i'm looking to get in to modern. Is there a good point to start? I'm looking for a budget deck that still could win me some fnm.
I already looked into mono red burn but i don't like the idea and flavour. Also someone recommended me infect, but inkmoth nexus is far beyond the price i'm willing to pay for a single card, but most people say it's a MUST for infect.

>>52103636
>Nexus is far beyond the price for a single card
Modern isn't for you, play edh or pauper.

also infect is dead

>>52103636
Use a program like Xmage or forge to test decks and learn the game better before committing to modern. Check Mtgoldfish for some budget deck ideas.

>>52103663
I ordered a commander deck, but while the casual gameplay is fun, I also want to play in some local tournaments or fnm.

>>52103782
Buyouts have eliminated the last of the budget decks in the format, if Inkmoth Nexus is too expensive for you then good luck trying Bant Eldrazi, Jund, DSJ, Junk, Merfolk, Affinity, etc.

Also Burn and Infect play identically so I'm not sure what you want.

>>52103601
I've played against it a few times. It really lacked the consistency of the Jund version.

>>52103601
>not running mardu shadow
You're way behind the meta, senpai.
The concensus being it is the best variant due to it's favorable matchup against both esper shadow and sultai shadow, with jund being 50/50.

For real though, 5C Shadow.

can Sultai Delver be a thing in modern?
>access to two of the best removal in modern, abrupt decay and fatal kick
>mishra bauble work very well with deck that rely on GY and delirium mechanics
>liliana the last hope and traverse to ulvenwald are two good and viable tutors
>easy to get the "ferocious" stubborn denial, wich is a perfect counterspell for this deck
so, as far as i see is just death shadow jund without the downside to lose from lightning bolt from out of nowhere....

>>52104343
>Bauble
>Delver
>Traverse
These cards do not actually synergize.

>>52104343
You lose all your good white sideboard cards, which are far more important than 1/1's for 1 and a card that's force spike unless you're already winning.

>>52102555
>>52102538
Blessed is very nice, you can make your opponent gain life to shrink the shadow, purge can exile liliana and shadow, to exile those cards is great kommand wont bring back any shadows so soon, both are very good cards to consider.

>>52104384
of course they do, don't be bad at magic tg

>>52104416
>ALL your good white sideboard cards
you mean lingering souls that you can still flashback from graveyard (also a W/BUG shockland is not this hard to splash) and ranger of eos wich is barely played?

>>52104473
I've also seen lists running kataki, ethersworn canonist and eidolon of rhetoric as silver bullets. The biggest picture though is nothing is stopping death shadow decks from having access to all colors and running blue if they wanted. But blue offers nothing the deck wants. Delver is shit.

>>52104522
What is Blood Moon

>>52104528
Pretty irrelevant to the difference between 4 and 5 colors. If you're forced to get basics, you won't be getting your least useful color by the time blood moon comes down either way.

>>52104522
>ethersworn canonist and eidolon of rhetoric as silver bullets
more like desperate options when you are out of life

>>52104644
I mean they instantly win the game against storm and cheeri0s. Not that having 8 discard spells main deck doesn't instantly win the game against cherri0s, but still.

>>52104654
chereri0s is such a fragile storm deck that literally everything can get the rid off the combo. saying "this card is a good sideboard option" just because grant a free win against a deck still easily beatable sounds kinda blunt...

>>52103344
Better pack a couple surgicals in the side for the eldrazi player

>>52104820
What's the point chances are they don't run 8 that return to the deck.

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Who's the 3rd best planeswalker? Obviously Jtms and Lotv are first, but I'm not sure who would be after them.

pic unrelated

>>52104846
6 CMC elspeth beats a lot of decks if she resolves. Newest gideon is ok too.

>>52104846
garruk, chandra and liliana

>>52100453
Goyf decks are at least 25% of the Modern meta, and Miracles is, I'm pretty sure, about 15.
WRONG
R
O
N
G

Who is ready for Stoneforge Mystic plus Preordain/Jace come this Monday?

>>52104856
I was thinking Gideon too, but wasn't sure.

>>52104859
>liliana
the other one?

>>52104860
Show me where the big bad Goyf touched you

>>52093862
You have shit taste in music OP

>>52104864
>the other one
that was my best 3 PW
jace is for gayass edgelord

>>52104860
goyf decks aren't 25%. They're about 15 to 18% depending on if you count MTGO leagues or not (jund is more popular online than paper). Mircales is 19% online and about 16% paper. These numbers fluctuate a bit with time of course.

>>52104846
Karn Liberated or Eugene, le spirit de dragon

>>52104885
Goyf is at 19.7% on mtgtop8.

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>>52100034
>plays living end
>calls other people autists

Is there ever a standard general? Keen to discuss, but dont want to shit up glorius modern thread like the salty legacy fags and edh fags that cant keep their sperging in their own threads

>>52104938
>Is there ever a standard general?
There is one sometimes. Just try to make one it will probably do fine.

Anyone here playing Kiln Fiend deck?

Is it worth running stubbord denial in it? Haven't tested it myself.

Modern would be a better format if every colour had it's own Goyf and actual answers.
Prove me wrong

>>52105005
>Force of Will
>Counterspell
>Wasteland
Modern needs these desu senpai.

>>52105005
They do.

>>52105041
Reminder that Wasteland would devolve Modern into who draws more Wastelands on the play and make games vs nomanadorks.dec not really games entirely, FoW is not a good card but a necessary safety valve vs t1 combo which doesn't exist in Modern and Mana Leak is Counterspell 95% of the time.

>>52105046
>blue has playable cards in Modern
Baka senpai.

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>>52105057
>Snapcaster is not playable

>>52105005
Green - Goyf
Blue - Snapcaster
White - Stoneforge Mystic
Red - Pyromancer
Black - Confidant

the only arguable one is pyromancer but everything else is pretty much agreed on

>>52105069
Well, he's not all that playable at the moment honestly. The kind of deck he's perfectly suited towards (see: tempo) just isn't that good right now. Infact it's terrible right now. Control decks are just barely scraping by on the back of 1 mana 4/5s with an upside.

>>52102538
Blessed Alliance is so good. It can kill death's shadows at any point, wrecks infect and bogles and is even good against something like burn.

>>52105142
Unban stoneforge. Ban batterskull

>>52105212
And reprint Chain lightning

>>52105212
No need cobber. K command. Batterskull is unplayable in the current meta

>>52105219
Modern need chain lightning, fireblast, and price of progress.

>>52105223
>the "its unplayable because dies to removal" argument

k command is only a two of in jund and dsj. nothing else plays artifact destruction in the main

>>52105240
Grixis

>>52105279
grixis is not good

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Hey /tg/ how good is this card for Modern? Since it was reprinted for MM17 it should be good, right?

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Step aside, Premium AntiDS tech coming through!

>>52105335
>Since it was reprinted for MM17 it should be good, right?
You're hilarious anon.

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Deaths Shadow players hate this !

>>52105301
>keeps top 8'ing GPs and Opens
>Not good

Pick one casual scrub

>>52105335
theres a Interesting Build with a bunch of ETB effect creatures, but my personal build is populate the hoof Reanimator

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>>52105342
Dies to Tarfire and doesn't block Goyf.

>>52105367
That's why I said antiDS tech, nigger

:^)

>>52105236
Price triggers people, but I feel that fireblast and chain lightning would be completely kosher in modern

>>52105390
anathemancer

>>52105388
Tech isn't usually understood to mean "absolutely shit card which is a worse answer to a specific thing than an actually good all-around card like, say, Path to Exile".

>>52105399
That not only requires black, but it only does half as much damage as price.
Not efficient enough for modern burn decks.

>>52105422
Stay mad that you didn't think of it first, faggot.

>>52105390
>Price triggers people
So does blood moon but things like it help provide some downside to running three color manabases with one or two basics and modern doesn't have enough cards like it.

>>52105342
>that flavor text

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What are some decent brews aside Bant drazi that utilize this little fella?

Thinking of brewing something with him, preferably no Taxes and Eldrazi tho.

Why does no one here play combo? Been stylin on fools with gifts storm. Deck is the real deal.

>>52105538
Soul sisters maybe

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Ay yo what decks beat Shadow the Hedgehog?

>>52105689
Tron

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>>52105730
Anyththang that ain't Travon?

>>52104980

Kiln fiend died when they banned probe.

>>52105747
Taking turns

>>52105816
Woah seriously that deck can take on Death's Shadow? Isn't way too slow? Or are you just fogging every turn?

>>52105836
yes, Turbo fog also works

>>52105875
Holy shit time to suit up Battle of Wits

>>52105886
Honestly any deck with good removal and Lightning bolt. Or helix

>>52105689
naya burn, you just wait for them to get low and 8 there face/

>>52105591

What do you do against discard heavy and/or control decks?

>>52106052
i would imagin sideboarding in a few copys of layline

>>52106052
Discard really isn't too hard to deal with, cause the deck is so redundant you're guaranteed to hit something soon. A fast clock isn't bad cause we are pretty fast too.
>Control
What's actually hard to beat is Fast Clocks and Discard, like DSJ. That's where the blood moons and empty the warrens come on, really helpful against DSJ.

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>>52105920

you rang

>>52106076
>>52106052
Leyline helps vs discard, as does past in flames. Past in flames and Empty the Warren's are good vs countermagic. Gifts on their eot is also a powerful play, since if they counter it they'll have less mana untapped to try to stop you when you untap. Blue decks are easier to beat than discard heavy decks.

>>52105730
Can't get enough of this fresh meme

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>>52105920
>Bolt and Helix vs Death's Shadow

>>52106165
I'd disagree. While the discard spells in modern are way better than the counters, so it naturally gives an edge to the counters, I think if a control player knows how storm works and when to counter they can be harder to beat, cause discard doesn't protect from that topdeck baral into gifts for the storm win.

>>52106213
The deck doesn't need gifts to go off though, so just countering gifts doesn't work. The gbx decks will take your gifts and kill your baral. But both decks can have a hard time with a quick 8-10 goblins, and you can use pif to set yourself up to make more even if the first round is destroyed

>>52105538
Memes in progress, need ideas what to put in this pile I'm making.

So far I have:

2x Claws of Gix (USG)
4x Eldrazi Displacer (OGW)
3x Eldritch Evolution (EMN)
1x Gods' Eye, Gate to the Reikai (BOK)
1x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx (THS)
4x Renegade Rallier (AER)
4x Sakura-Tribe Elder (CHK)
1x Spawning Bed
3x Sylvan Scrying (BFZ)
3x Thragtusk (M13)
1x Tomb of the Spirit Dragon (KTK)
4x Utopia Sprawl (DIS)
1x Wastes (OGW)

>>52097645
While goldfishing it kills as fast as before but that doesn't say much. I haven't had the chance to actually play it at FNM so it might be dead. I decided to switch to BG instead of UG because it lets you run hand disruption which while not being free lets you look at their hand, get rid of a threat, and get a card in the graveyard for Become immense. You also get to run a ton of removal and even board clear now because you're running black. Abrupt Decay, Fatal Push, Etc. Lastly creatures aren't that much worse. Plague Stinger for most of the meta is the same as Blighted Agent. Not saying flying is as good as unblockable but for most creatures you encounter they do the same thing. You get to play an additional 4 creatures in the form of Phyrexian Crusader which dodges most removal with the biggest worries being Fatal Push and Abrupt decay is a decent body which can get through some blockers because of that protection and has first strike which makes him able to go up against creatures that are bigger than him. Pretty good card. Otherwise you play all the same green cards you used to and for the most part the same lands just different basics and shocks.

>>52106577
Honestly, current Modern is pretty cool.

>>52106577
>You Can Play Anything You Want, and It Can Win
Yeah, except UR tempo-control, Infect, an actually good combo deck with late game potential, a blue control deck etc
>xyz 5-0'd a league, therefore it must be viable

>>52106577
>Oy vey goyim this modern format is like da opposite of a shoah! Buy some of our cards we marked up cause some random deck 5-0d a mtgo daily with them

Guys, would RG land destruction work. Cause bop into molten rain sounds really fun on the play

>>52106737
Yeah it's already a deck

>>52106737
P O N Z A

>>52104820
That's a good idea, but I haven't updated my list in about 23 years and I don't really want to put any money into my casual deck.

>>52106737

how about t1 arbor elf into t2 utopia sprawl mwonvoli acid moss

ponza does that too

>>52106737
Already a deck, interestingly they don't play molten rain opting for stone rain instead because less red mana symbols.

Ponca? Never heard of it, but now I'm intrigued? Anyone got a list they can link me? How competitive is it?

>>52106842
Literally google MTG Ponza you nerd.

>>52106577
This guy is a moron, tbqh.

Man I'm loving the look of ponza, why don't more people play this? Tron brfo

I was thinking about building Shaun McLaren's jeskai Saheeli list. Thoughts?

>>52107153
Cause it's anus gets brutally violated by aggro

>>52107209
The standard thread is down the road friend.

>>52107153

because several decks hardly need lands, that's the ponza struggle.

>affinity
>vial decks
>burn

The other struggle is decks that play 1cmc threats that can establish a board state between land hates

>shadow
>sisters
>infect

etc

ponza beats big mana midrange and control

>>52106577
Modern is great*!
*Compared to Standard, Frontier, and Competative Commander

>>52106695
Don't worry Dhimmi, the Caliphate Fire Ball will save you from the evil zionists. Already we have reduced the price of Hajj to only $200. For merely $25 more, you will also receive a free prayer mat.

>>52106890
He teaches math somewhere in the American south IIRC. Honestly, MtG articles in general are shit. Sites will pay anyone who ever top 8-ed anything to write bi-weekly articles regardless of the actual content. Stevens isn't the moron, the people who read this stuff expecting anything meaningful are.

>>52107238
Eh, without lands ponza can still choke out burn once they drop a Baloth. It's hard to cast bolt without a mountain.

>>52107209
I honestly hope this deck gets big so I can blow cucks the fuck out with Rakdos charm again. God I loved that feeling

>>52107263

That's true, mb baloth is a bitch

>>52107153
I observed this exact match up at my LGS and the tron deck shit on ponza every time because they don't have a solid clock and eventually run out of land destruction. Then tron recovers before you know it, o-stones your shit and it's all down hill from there. Land destruction doesn't kill tron, speed kills tron. Land destruction just sets them back a turn, at best.

Give me preordain in modern

Please

>>52107296
Just run crumble to dust in ponza, tron literally scoops to crumble resolving

>>52107427
>tron just gets to 7 lands naturally
>tron just resolves karn anyway while you cast more birds of paradise.

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>Opponent's face when I time walk them
Is this the best card in Modern?

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>Near Mint/ Pack Fresh
Lmao I'd like to meet the guy grading these

>>52108200
This kinda hurts a bit

>>52108283
I really don't understand what this is, did he leave it in the sauna for an hour or something?

What year was best for FNM promos since 2010?

2016
>Goblin warchief
>Sylvan scrying
>spatial contortion
>fiery temper

2015
>Path to Exile
>serum visions
>Ultimate price

2014
>elvish mystic

2013
>farseek
>reliquary tower
>Izzet charm
>experiment one

2012
>glistener
>Tec edge
>Dismember
>Ancient grudge
>Lingering souls
>Gitaxian probe (rip)

2011
>spellstutter sprite
>wall of omens

2010
>bloodbraid elf
>tidehollow sculler
>cloudpost
>qasali pridemage
>rift bolt
>wild nacatl

What does your fnm promo wish list look like?

>>52108310
Honestly? It happens when foil cards are exposed to thin air.

Basically if you don't double sleve your foils those are the effects.

>>52108370
fatal push
that's about it for modern, but I want servant of the conduit and attune with aether for standard

>>52108370
Fireblast Promo
And make it modern legal while we're at it.

>>52106667
grixis delver
yeah infect sucks lol
scapeshift
grixis control
desu you can kinda just play what the fuck you want, there are only 4 decks that are more than 5% of the meta

>>52105362
>Grixis
>keeps top 8'ing GPs
But it isn't. In fact, all reactive blue decks have been performing terribly at the GP level for about half a year now.

>>52105362
Lol, nah senpai, grixis a shit

>>52108645
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/582497
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/576421
not putting up a lot of results, but putting up results, like every modern deck

Are Teferi or Jace VP good enough for Modern

>>52109175
Teferi saw play when twin mirrors were a thing
And for a hot second there was a popular grixis control build that played 4 jace and discard spells and liliana of the veil

>>52098457
>google annihilator
Damn my group needed this mechanic in a bad way back in the day.

>>52109375

>has to google annihilator

impressive, is that the first time you've ever seen emrakul?

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I swear to god, there was a version of this pic but with Karn. Does anyone have it?

>>52109603
Gimme a couple of minutes anon.

>>52109375
>Back in the day
So like less than a year ago?

>>52109749
Who are you trying to impress? Why are you so sad?

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>>52109603

>>52109787
I'm not trying to impress anyone faggot, like who the fuck has never played against an Emrakul, let alone not knowing what one of the most Iconic creatures even does.

>>52109895

looks like he struck a nerve anon.

>>52109895
Lmao, fuckin sperg

>>52109895
Jesus Christ could you get more autistic?

>>52110123
>>52110257
>>52110474
>samefagging this hard

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>>52110559

>>52110606
Great photoshop desu

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>>52110699

>>52110717
>Using 2 different phones to samefag
Truly the most pathetic shit I have ever seen

>>52110738
Kek

>>52110738
Lol

>>52107236

Not a standard deck, amigo

>>52111046
Buddy, you got the wrong thread. Standard thread is two blocks down.

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>>52110699

congrats you caught all of us now apparently and you haven't stopped being a fag for one second

>>52111364
Literally trying to cover for some retard who doesn't even know what Eldrazi do
Fucking pathetic desu

>>52109895
I played mostly in a casual setting from 2006-2009 the link I saw was this:
http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Annihilator

Which strongly implied it was mechanic not around in 2006-2009.

>>52109408
yes

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Is there any actual skill to Ad Nauseam?

>>52112308

cool, you'll learn to hate her because she represents immediate inevitability and basically ends the game even without her cast trigger

most ways of dropping her give her haste, isn't that swell?

>>52112223
>getting this triggered over a new player appreciating old cards
sounds like the pathetic one here is you

>>52112501
Knowing if you spoils'd too many lands and can't have lethal from lightning storm. But some people scoop to you casting ad nauseam

>>52112501
Counting approximate hypergeometrics on the fly, same as with any deck. Sequencing cantrips, running the right cards into counters and Abrupt Decay.

>>52112501
Define "actual skill"

>>52108645
Delver and control both top 8d SCG Indy open a couple of weeks ago. Grixis control made finals of GP DFW.

Your argument is as strong as your facts

>>52112721
Jund

>>52112926
*DSJ

>>52112962
Midrange is the most difficult to play in any format

>>52112987
you spelled control wrong

>>52112987
Except for standard: the midrangening

>>52113188
Control is not hard to play. It's bad, that doesn't make it difficult.

>>52113331
>midrange is the most difficult to play across all formats

>>52113452
How is it not? The sequencing, resource management, throwing your own cards away to Lili. Turn 1 in jund is more difficult than most decks out there

>>52113508
>turn 1 discard spell is hard
> control is just shit so it isn't hard to play
>completely ignores that control is harder to play in formats where it actually exists
The sequencing in control, what mana to fetch, when to counter and when to tap out are all more difficult than any decision in jund where your lines are almost spelled out for you by the context of your hand and board.

>>52109831
Thanks anon, that's great!

>>52113596
Pls don't reply to the bait

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Alright need help real quick, bout to play Living End tonight and at a pretty decent sized tourney this come sunday. It had been a while since I played the meta so my deck was a bit outdated and I was a bit rusty so I played at a free event this past Wednesday and I learned a few things.
-Kessig Wolf Run is a must in my deck
-Be careful when people play 2 Chalice on the Void for 0(didnt catch that till after the match which cost me 1 game too many vs Eldrazi Tron)
-Dredge is the epitome of a bad match up for me
-Stop fucking punting
My list is very similar to most but I only run 2 fulminators and 1 avalanche riders(cause thats all I have), but rest is pretty default.
So questions like:
Is Nights Betrayal decent sideboard tech vs dredge/tokens?
Currently Running 3 Bristle Boars and 2 Pulse of Murasas for the burn match ups, should i make it 2 and 2 or....?
Any recommendation for grave hate that isnt leyline of the void?
What are some silver bullets i can put in sideboard I can cascade into at 2 cmc or less? I heard some people sideboard out the living end for it against decks that completely fold to those specific hate cards.

>>52113755
Faerie Macabre is great. Jund charm is ok.

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>>52113755
>Grave hate that isn't leyline of the void

>>52113755
Post list please.

Soul sisters are getting like 60% reprinted and I need a new fundeck. Is it worth to pull the trigger? Considering the reprints soul sisters will be in 100-150 range I think, so it won't even be a big waste of money.

>>52113917
Tormods crypt is better.

Exile their yard while leaving your intact.

>>52113986
>Soul sisters
>fun

This is the modern general

>>52114031
>>52114031
>>52114031

baking new bread

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>>52113755
>pic is my brothers list from GP Melbourne.

He ran it back at GP Bris with a couple of small changes - blooming marshes, leyline of the void and lost legacy.

Went 5-4 after facing 6 Rest in Peace decks though.

>>52113917
>>52113990
I play living end, as mentioned in post, those don't work