Fucking normies edition Previously on /edh/ : >>5204

I'm creating a new deck, as with all my decks, they are named something political.

Sylvala, explore return stax combo-
>fox news, fair and balanced

Nath of the guilt leaf stax-
>TSA, just put it in the bin

And my newest saksia aggro-
>the Republican party

So this begs question who will lead my new idea the oval office deck with some current magic card representing trump. So this begs the question who should it be. The only qualifier is that either lore wise Or effect wise they are parallel. Color is not a concern, ironically

>>52061308
Maga.

The Reserved List was first published on 4 March 1996, as a response to the protests against *Chronicles* and *Fourth Edition*.

During the years, the Reserved List is changed. The last and the worst revision was in 2010: if this had not happened, probably today we would have seen Masterpieces dual lands!

I know that there is a lot of hype for Modern Master 2017, but I want to remember to all players that, at least until today, the Reserved List is the unresolved mistake.

I hope we will see snow or legendary dual lands before it's too late.

>>52061308
My vote goes to Doran mono walls

>>52061348
That's good, but I'd pick Karlov of the Ghost Council.
>Member of a religious plutocracy
>Gets fat while in place
>Kicks folks out of the game
Really, you just need to include some walls after that. Maybe Extort effects. Blind Obedience is basically always a good card.

>>52061261
>no thread question
>no magic card in the OP
>no subject line
Please correct these behaviours if you must make the OP. Accidents happen, but don't let a mistake become a habit.

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>>52061461
Fuck off, retard.

>>52061461
>p-pls tell me what to talk about I don't have my own thoughts

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/surrak-smash-2/

i think i did it better this time with the fixing of mana packages. thoughts?

>>52061461
I-i'm okay with something different once in a while

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>>52061261
> implying I'm not a huge sports fan and a magic player at the same time

>>52061530
>>52061536
Hey, feel free to do what you want, but if you fuck up, expect people to tell you as much. It's not difficult, don't be dense.

>>52061580
Exactly. People make mistakes and that's part of life, but being obtuse is bad form more than anything.

>>52061391
You MIGHT see Legendary, but I'd highly doubt we see Snow without them killing the reserve list in the first place.

>>52061594
Dude, the amount of crossover between Football and Magic is crazy in my area.

>>52061559
>Conclave Naturalists and Indrik Stomphowler
>over Reclamation Sage or that one mana grub
Any reason in particular?

>>52061594
So you're one of THOSE people, got it

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>>52061595

>>52061595
I didn't fuck up, and it wasn't a mistake. There's no need for you to be so aggressive.

>>52061632
Same here. The LGS is neckbeard, no deodorant central; but there's a huge number of "normies" that play together on their kitchen tables that overlap with it on some nights.

>>52061656
bigger bodies, works with sight of the scalelord, triggers both packleader and the ascendancy, also reminds me to not waste those effects too early

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>>52061664
Whatever do you mean? :^)

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>>52061461

>>52061726
I understand.

Sakura-Tribe Elder is duplicated in your list, also given the number of critters in your list have you considered Selvala's Stampede or Elvish Piper?

What are your preferred game sizes?

I'd say 4 is my ideal number of players. I'll take 5, but I really don't wanna go above that, and I prefer just playing 1v1 over playing 3 players.

>>52061781
4 is also my ideal, though I don't mind playing 1v1 or 3 player. I've discovered that games that are more than 5 people are just suicide, especially since a couple people around here are enamored with "lmao game warping group hug/chaos" at the moment ...
6+ just leads to long grindy games where you have to wait a half hour between your turn 3 and turn 4, let alone 5 to 6. Drives me nuts but sometimes those are the only games being played so I'm stuck in them.
Stuff like that is probably also why I can't stand slow play or chaos effects at the moment.

>>52061775
Elvish Piper is a trap and you know it

>>52061781
4 is perfect in every way. 3 is pretty good too. I don't really like 1v1 and more than 4 just takes way too long.

>>52061844
Yeah. 4 players hits the sweet spot of multiplayer for me, but 6 or more just takes too fucking long and it's way more likely that shit gets turned tits-up by one guy whose board you can't even see.

3 players is non-ideal for me because it almost always devolves into 2v1 by turn 4.

>>52061775
thanks, i forgot to add the expertise, so when i saw 100 i thought i was done. evlish piper is hard to find, but ill consider the stampede.

>>52061781
3 is shit.
4 become teams or massive feel bad.
5 is a clusterfuck.
6 is the patrician choice.

>>52061887
What about 6 makes it less of a clusterfuck than 5, in your opinion? I've always found 6 player games to be on the wrong side of 'clusterfuck', rather than 5, but I'd like to hear your input on the matter.

>>52061873
>Elvish Piper is hard to find
They're like 7 fucking dollars

>>52061706
>n-no I never make mistakes, I'm intentionally retarded
Whatever you say champ. Crossboarders are always such swine.

>>52061261
Why would football fans be outside during the Super Bowl?

I'm not going to bother asking why the artist thinks grown men would act like 1980s Hollywood stereotypes of teenagers.

>>52061973
Because the Super Bowl doesn't start until like 4 PM and they're clearly picking up beer and chipz

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>Next neat rare creature dropped to uncommon
Literally Pauper Commander: The Set

>>52061781
4 and 5 are ideal.
I'd rather just play legacy than 1v1 EDH.
3 is "we're going to team up to beat you, and then the strongest of us will absolutely destroy the other one, while the sheep is under the illusion that second place means anything"
6 and more is a clusterfuck of missed triggers and overlooked boardstates.

>>52062148
>Temple at uncommon
Shit how did I missed that, MM17 is a goldmine for Pauper Commander. That one grixis specter also dropped to uncommon.

>>52062169
>All populate commons reprinted
>Soul Warden reprinted
>Avacyn’s Pilgrim and Fists of Ironwood reprinted
It's like WotC just wants me to build a Selesnya pEDH token deck

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>>52061594
>mfw my LGS is called "Sports Collectibles" and the owner gives me discounts because I'm the only Magic Player who he can talk sports to.

>>52062148
To be fair that had no business being a rare in the first place

The op pic is cringe worthy.

What is the current speculation on the next banlist update?

I'd hate to have another year of

>no changes

stagnation. Painter's servant needs to come off the list.

>>52062251
I never understood why nerds never casually followed sports to seem normal. I love sports, but it's something easy and topical for small talk, you literally only need 5 mins on the shitter to seem like a knowledgeable fellow.

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>>52062251
>mfw my LGS is "Addiction" and everyone hates the subhumans who staff the place and spend half an hour chatting with a friend before helping customers, but the prizing structure is bonkers and consequently it's the biggest store for miles

>>52062397
Because anyone who actually knows sports will be able to tell you have no fucking clue what you're talking about?

>>52062397
Because if nerds cared about 'seeming normal' they wouldn't be nerds.

>>52062397
Probably because "knows hardly anything about sports but is pretending they do to seem 'normal' " is about a thousand times more pathetic than just saying "I don't really like sports"

>>52062470
>Hey anon, did you hear about how *insert player * had *insert statline*? You know, I thought it was pretty cool how *insert team* has been *insert winning trend*. But that wasn't half of it, I can't believe *insert trendy topic*. Okay have a good one man, go *local team's slang name*.

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>>52061308
You're enevitably going to start a war and you have no idea what you're doing.

>>52062542
But why? What's the point?

>>52062542
And what do you do if they ask you about a different team? Or about a specific player other than the one you know about?

This is the equivalent of 'learning' about Magic so you can have a conversation like this:

"Hey anon, did you hear about how Jon Finkel went 8-2 at the last GP? You know, I thought it was pretty cool how Mardu Vehicles has been Doing Well. But that wasn't half of it, I can't believe Fetches in Modern Masters! Okay, have a good one man, go Unban Jace."

>>52062565
To avoid 80's style man drama and relate to otherwise awkward people with comfortable small talk in forced situations. But, this anon has it:

>>52062474

They wouldn't be nerds if they cared about any of that.

>>52061781
4-6 is good

4 is a nice number to have real interactions without zillion hour games
5 is pretty similar but lets you play, say, Star setups (or any similar variant where the players at the table represent a full cycle be it mono, allied, enemy, arc, or wedge)
6 Is hilarious and unwieldy and takes forever but you still know what's going on at least.

The more players, the more on the ball they need to be.

>>52062600
Which is a perfectly fine interaction of you're stuck somewhere with a mouth breathing neckbeard and need to make small talk for 5 minutes, particularly in a casual professional setting.

>>52062470
This.

>>52062651
>Mouthbreathing neckbeard
>Professional setting

>>52062542
>Hey anon, who was on the Bad Boy Pistons?

>>52062678
>I'm not to sure anon, I'm more a fan of *insert era* with *insert popular team's franchise player* and *insert competitive rival*. How did you feel about them? That was a bit before me.

>>52062729
If you're up to the point where you've researched a specific-era team, their star player, and their rival for small talk, it's no longer small talk. You're actually a sports fan.

>>52062747
Really? Fair enough, I guess you're right. I was looking at it like that episode of the IT crowd where you're in a bar and forced to interact with real men, but anyone that autistic would already like sports at that point.

>>52062772
>Forced
So you search for common ground instead of just assuming they like sports, and forcing yourself to know tidbits for pointless small talk.

>>52062625
>80s style man drama
>having literally nothing in common with other men your age

I go see schlocky action movies, that's a thing "normal" men do. I'll just talk about John Wick or something.

>>52062772
Honestly, half the time it never gets into statistics and niche things. It usually "Did you watch game x last night?"

>>52062819
Seriously. Or just TRY to find something in common.

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Stop fucking talking sports and start talking MtG.

Here's todays trades, got some nice pimp for my Oloro deck.

>>52063123
Dat stripmine and will are pretty dope tbqh

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Looking to build this bitch, potentially with a fire theme. What all should I throw in, aside from the meme of 99x Mountains? Anyone got a list they've enjoyed using?

>>52063363
Magebane armor and maybe Darksteel plate so she doesn't off herself when she 'plodes

>>52061261
>Jews are just as neurotic today as they were in the 80's
good to know i guess.
hey op, do you mind not being so awful at your job?

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>>52061308
>named something political.
just don't.

>>52063123
Yawgmoth's Will is such a fucking filthy card

>>52061594
>work out everyday
>act normie in the streets
>play commander, modern, legacy and fighting games
>complete weeb
>they'll never find out

normie in the streets autist in the sheets.

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>>52061594
>>52062251
>some retard mentions sports during our comfy game of EDH
>tunnel the piece of shit out of the game
Normies can die

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>>52062148
>Pauper

>>52061261
>no subject line

The thread question is whatever but come the fuck on. This general already has activity issues and you're going to make it even more difficult to find this discussion.

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>>52063877
>mfw this card alone turned my entire playgroup into a bunch of graveyard hating scrubs

>>52062772
>basing social interaction on tv shows
Now this is real autism

>>52063363
Any Chandra, Chandra's ignition, obliterate, the always classic fireball.

>>52064034
ba-janga

>>52062848
>did you see that ludicrous display last night

>>52064074
barzoopal

>>52064097
>No, what happened?

there. Problem solved.

>>52063363
I built a half-meme of her once. It was her and 11 things to work with her (Magebane Armor, Darksteel Plate, Basilisk Collar, Loxodon Warhammer, Sword of War and Peace, Sword of Fire and Ice, Heartstone, Scythe of the Wretched, Gauntlet of Power, Caged Sun, Ring of Valkas), and the rest Mountains.

It was called Ashling and the Crazy Eighty-Eight.

>>52063947
The number of really muscular fightan game people is a little frightening to me.

>>52064109
What was Wenger thinking sending Walcott on that early

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Noob to Magic here, is there any card in the game like Mordecai?
>Last Words(aka when he dies): Summon a Mordecai the Duelist.
I imagine there is, I just don't know the keyword

>>52064156
No clue

>>52064145
i mean it makes sense you pick a character and it's your avatar. Would you not want to look like your DnD avatar IRL? same thing goes for fighting games

>you can't travel the world like ryu and do hadoken blasts
>you will never be able to falcon punch
>you will never be a vampire that an block attacks via smoking.
>you will never be your commander.

>>52064169
Not the same, but some cards say "Whenever X is put into the graveyard from the battlefield return X to the battlefield at the beginning of your next upkeep.". I don't think there are any instantaneous returns without some sort of downside.

>>52064169
Like, constantly making a new version of itself when it dies? Chronozoa, kinda.

>>52064179
I've mained Cammy in Street Fighter since I was 9, and despite what my girlfriend might claim, my ass is not that great.

>>52064250
Well you gotta work on that

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Does this stop shocklands? I'm no judge, but I know your technically paying a cost for it to not enter the Battlefield tapped. so that sounds kind of fun like an activate ability to me.

>>52064169
It's difficult to have straight translations of that, since Shadowverse is digital and can easily create copies of cards with the copies having the characteristics of just a regular card. Since you have to keep track of the physical card in Magic, copies can't be treated as cards and just disappear when leaving the battlefield. There's certainly cards that are difficult to get rid of like Aetherling or Phytotitan (which is probably coming closest to Mordecai). But you can't pull stuff like Urd combos, which is half the fun of playing with Mort.

>>52064294
I don't know why I typed "fun" in the middle of a sentence like that. Whoops

>>52064294
An activated ability is always formatted in the Oracle text as cost:effect. Without the colon it isn't an activated ability.

A triggered ability is formatted with the words when, whenever.

Shock lands are triggered.

>>52064169
There are some cards with self recursion (see: any phoenix), but there is no card that says "If you have a sacrifice outlet, you win the game", no.

>>52064342
>Shock lands are triggered.
Nope. Not that either. The shock land clause is a repacement effect (note the "as ~ enters the battlefield") and as such can not be reacted to in any way, since it doesn't go on the stack.

>>52064412
>>52064342
Interesting, thanks for the response guys. Also, I apologize for asking here while the judge thread was still up, I'm a dumbass. I usually ask here if the judge thread is archived, since /edhg/ is usually the most chill magic general.

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>>52064294
>doesn't know the difference between activated and triggered abilities

>>52064294
if you are going to run the web do yourself a favor and run some kismet effects as well

they are devilish

>>52064342
Nope. Triggers will be "When", "Whenever", or "At", three words completely absent from shocklands.

Shocklands have a REPLACEMENT effect that modifies the way they enter the battlefield. It does not use the stack and cannot be responded to.

>>52064469
Eh, either way you're likely to run into me.

>>52064479
Neither did you, once. Everyone starts somewhere, so don't be a jerk to people trying to learn.

>>52064191
>>52064181
Chronozoa splits when its lifespan is up

Epochrasite disappears for a couple turns when it does then comes back in its stronger form.

Reassembling Skeleton can be called back from your graveyard arbitrarily. Mortus strider will come back to your hand whenever it dies, which goes infinite with Aluren.

Haakon, Stromgald Scourge lets you play knights from your GY freely but doesn't work like you want him to as a Commander, sadly (You CAN do it, but it's a lot of work for what will probably top out as Nameless Inversion spam)

Advanced Stitchwing and a number of other Innistrad zombies can get back up at cost, but they're usually tougher than Reassembling Skeleton

Bloodghast returns whenever you drop a land.

Coffin Puppets return at the cost of two lands

Anything with Persist comes back a little weaker. Only once unless shenanigains. Ditto Undying but they get stronger instead.

Anything with the "Unearth" ability can come back for exactly one turn.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=+[%22dies,%20create%22]||type=+[%22dies,%20create%22]||subtype=+[%22dies,%20create%22]||text=+[%22dies,%20create%22]

with special consideration to Mitotic Slime, Reef Worm, and the eggs.


Nothing perfectly like what you want, but sacrifice outlets being what they are it's easy to see why. Your best options are Mortus Strider+Aluren or (Persist Creature)+Melira, Sylvok Outcast. The latter is actually a fairly potent combo for instant winning.

>>52064527
Also, Gift of Immortality turns any creature into "I keep coming back"

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>>52063978
>Memes
What now, fucker?

>>52064169
I haven't seen "Squee, goblin nabob" listed yet but he fits well enough.

>>52064479
>triggered abilities
>shocklands
If only we could be as knowledgeable as you.

How do I build for this guy, voltron, pillow fort, stax, something in between?

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>>52064773
Forgot Image

>>52064773
Stax/pillowfort

>>52064773
>>52064793

>Voltron
You need to be able to generate X1W each turn where X is equal to the number of blockers you must bypass. Run lots of equipment because white enchantments will fall off when he protects himself.

>Pillow Fort
Just run fort cards. Ghostly Prison, Sphere of Safety, Crawlspace, etc.

>Stax
Stax doesn't give two shits who commands it most of the time. Build a white Stax deck: Things that crap out resources (especially permanents) for you and things that eat everyone's resources (Sac, tax, tap)

>Voltron/Stax
Don't go full potato "Durr 8.5 tails plus mana and equips", run a fat equip stack and a decent Stax package. Sram was already good for Voltron he is now essential.

>Fort/Stax
Neither of these packages takes up a whole deck, so just combine them

>Fort/Voltron
Getting indestructible on 8.5 tails is actually kind of important here. Then wrath the board whenever something looks at you funny. Alternatively, have a repeatable murder-by-damage source and pay 2W to exempt 8.5 tails from it, but that's kind of hard in monowhite, I can't think of any artifact that'll do the job.

>>52064793
I'm pretty sure he's regarded as one of the best voltron commanders.

>>52065097
In what universe? You're limited to strictly Equipment because any Auras you use would fall off if you use the ability, and while he has reactionary protection re: removal, his 'evasion' costs a fuck-million if there's more than one blocker and he doesn't scale with damage.

Rafiq is miles better as a Voltron commander.

>>52065125
I dunno, just seems like I read that somewhere. But I guess not.

>>52065125
>bant is better than monowhite
Gee wizz, thanks anon. Uril is clearly the best voltron commander to the point that he's unplayable in multi-player due to the heat you get.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/hatefxxkgutterpunk/

what is my deck missing? I feel like it's theoretically good, but every time I play, it gets its shit slapped.

>>52063996
Stop being a retard and learn how to use 4chan. Fucking crossposting redditor scum.

>>52065229
do you have to get angry at everyone that points out your fuck up OP? :^)

Remaking my Mishra deck, friends dont like it when I combo to end the game so I am basically making artifact goodstuff. What are solid win conditions that don't go infinite?

>>52065324
Thopter/Sword with no Time Sieve.
Kaladesh Modules

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>tfw following MTGHeadquarters in twitter because he's doing a MM3 booster box giveaway
Holy shit, it's like following some faggot from /pol/. Only tweeting le evil media, muh Wizards secret agenda, wedge is a faggot and shit like that

After this offtopic shit that I need to say, which commander would be the best for a new player to this format?

>>52065661
Probably one of the Precon commanders, or some of the less complicated 2-color commanders. I would not suggest monocolor, as any new player will quickly become frustrated as they are limited by the color they are stuck in. Two colors at least allow a little hedging of weaknesses, and I would suggest that one of those colors is green to aid in dipping the player's toes in the water.

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Does anyone here play pauper commander? Who is your general? I wanna try it out and I like this card. Thinking either her or Gilder Bairn. I don't really know if it's popular enough to put together a deck though.

>>52064793
I built it as a combo of Pillowfort and Stax with a small recursion engine in the form of Emeria,the Sky Ruin/Emeria Shepard/Faith's Reward/Karmic Guide and other such things.

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>>52065756
I built Cartel Aristocrat, Gloryscale Viashino, and Skydrop Condor.

I don't think pauper will kick off until someone actually codifies the rules, also hurts that the pauper meta is pretty stale.

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Should I even bother with counterspells if I only have 3? I'm running Nekusar.

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Anyone else get a little unreasonably excited when they see new cool tokens to replace the old ones you use for your deck?

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>>52065888
>I'm running Nekusar

>>52065888
You should, especially if you only have 3. They're a key part of healthy interaction.

>>52065309
I'm not OP, though.

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>>52066068
>le interaction meme

>>52065970
BW Tokens player here.

These will probably be my new go to soldier token, absolutely LOVE the art

>>52066084
Cool.

>>52066083
>I just fold over when a spell is cast that could win the game

Counterspells may be a case of the feel-bads, but there has been way too many times I've dropped a counterspell on a Comet Storm dealing 200 damage on each player, and watched the entire table breathe a sigh of relief. Removal, counterspells, and everything else under the interaction banner help to keep the game fun. It's not just about who can flip their fatties and combos onto the field the fastest, but who plays the smartest. Call it a meme, but that shit makes games better.

Or you may just be baiting me, in which case fuck off.

>>52066175
>everything I don't like is non-interactive but us epic blue mages keep everyone safe
Are you sure you aren't the one baiting me, because you sure are acting like it.

>>52066249
Well actually, I'm not tryin to bait you. I actually don't even play blue right - I play mostly Gruul, my current lineup is G/R Wort, Thelon, and Ulrich. I've built maybe 5 blue decks out of the 40-50 I've blazed through.

But I still understand the value of a counterspell, or anything that interacts with how your opponents play. That could be removal, counterspells, stax, blockers, whatever. It's just another axis of the theme.

I'm not trying to cause issues here, but you gotta admit these things are necessary.

>>52066249
So "I instantly win because nobody has disruption" is fine to you?

"Craterhoof, I win because none of you have counters or kill spells or fogs."

"Prossh, I win because none of you have counterspells."

"Niv Mizzet + Curiosity, I win because none of you have counters or kill spells or Disenchants"

What is your ideal EDH, just casting Craw Wurm variants until someone has enough to alpha strike the board?

>>52066294
That was never said, nor was it implied. You're looking to argue and get mad for no reason.

>>52066327
That "epic blue mages keep everyone safe" line is what was an attempt to start shit.

Counterspells are interaction. Period.

>>52066327
Well to be fair, the guy took it hyperbolically like you did - I simply stated that counterspells are a part of something needed to make the game fun (in my opinion), and you jumped on the "fuck blue mages you think your way is the only way to play the game" train, despite no part of my post implying that.

>>52063123
These fuckers might be mirin your overt pimp but Mystical Teachings is one of my favorite cards ever.

>>52061308
Breya
She's America wBlack
She has drones that she can use to bom people
and she a cute

>>52066388
She's also blonde with fake tits!

>>52066351
It wasn't an attempt to start shit, but keep getting mad over insignificant things.

>>52066358
Yeah, that was more of a knee-jerk reaction on my part. I do think that counterspells and their ilk are very important to the health of the game, I just don't like the weird cult-following and creature hate that the "interaction is numero uno!" crowd tends to have.

>>52066446
>It wasn't an attempt to start shit, but I'm going to be insulting and condescending about it anyway

>>52066449
I'm going to stop replying to you now since it's clear I'm just being baited.

>>52066485
>act like a horse's ass
>Be surprised when people flare up
>Continue insulting people
>Claim "I'm being baited!"
k

>>52066351
technically maybe, but I've played against too much counterspell tribal to consider counterspells interesting/interactive.

instant speed removal has an opportunity cost, in the case of "your doomblade can't kill my black creature, if you had drawn murder instead you could have done something". Counterspells are just a boring catchall and turn every meta into a blue one or one with explicit "can't be countered" text.

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>>52066351
>this post

>>52066507
>>52066519
asshurt players who got their infinite countered detected.

>>52066507
>I've been burned by a spam of 1-for-1 exchanges therefore the entire mechanic is evil.

'counterspell tribal' goes face down real fast to multiplayer. You can't afford to have all your cards trade 1-for-1 when you have 2+ opponents.

>>52066562
Maybe you're just a shit deckbuilder.

>>52066562
which is precisely why its un-fun.
I never said that it was particularly good, just that it makes everyone try to shoehorn blue into their deck so that they aren't the person being singled out by the counters.

I'm not saying you shouldn't run a couple counterspells in your deck if you're in the colors, just that thinking that counterspells are always a good thing to have is just as silly as thinking that all you need in your deck are threats.

mono-blue is "that-guy" bait in my experience.

>>52066631
Define "that guy". Wait, you can't.

>>52066631
>I'm not saying you shouldn't run a couple counterspells in your deck if you're in the colors
Then we are in agreement.

>>52066507
Counterspells are a necessary component of the game.

Counterspell TRIBAL is an asshole deck piloted by assholes. Different thing.

>>52066579
I'd love to see you build a counterspell.dec that can trade resources 1-for-1 against 2+ opponents and still come out on top.

>>52066644
someone that focuses exclusively on counterspelling someone in their meta even to the detriment of their deck, mostly because they feel the impotent need to control the way someone else has fun or has an out of game beef with them.

I knew that guy personally, eventually just stopped playing with him because it wasn't worth the pettiness.

>>52066709
Hard Control/Stax is just massive griefing. The people that play these decks are the people that have self-esteem issues or are incredibly boring individuals that feel the need to define themselves by their hobbies. They read that all the "hardcore" players play blue and spam counterspells, so they chortle to themselves and pull out the credit card in a misguided attempt to finally be good at something.

>>52066769
I agree.

The deck in particular was mana rock+counterspell jin-gitaxius.

dude took like 5minutes per turn figuring out how he wanted to leave his mana up.

>>52066769
>mfw I was about to call you out for being butthurt
>mfw it's actually true
I never realized that I let Magic define me instead of letting me define my Magic. I always felt guilty about liking green because it's the Timmy color. H-how do I fix myself?

>>52062351
I suspect it used to have trample during development but they decided to get rid of it.

>>52066507
>Counterspells are just a boring catchall
Confirmed for never having played with counterspells
Cards like Negate, Swan Song and Muddle the Mixture are amazing but will still fuck you over every so often

>>52066769
Unironically this. Every person I've seen that plays those kinds of decks have no other hobbies and no life outside of their playgroup.

>>52066829
Step one:

Do not give a tupenny fuck what your color choice says about you. Don't avoid green because it's "the timmy color", don't avoid blue because it's for elitists, etc.

Build what you think is fun. Genuinely fun- the kind of deck that doesn't make people stare daggers at you, that doesn't have you sighing as you browse your phone for 40 minutes because you were the first one out. The kind that people REMEMBER- "Hey, do you have your ______ deck with you?". The kind that lends itself to games you joke about two years later.

It's a game, friend. And games are supposed to be fun.

>>52065970
Reprints of tokens for Voice of Resurgence and Wort makes my dick hard

>>52063363
Mana accelerators, especially the artifacts that double the mana your mountains produce.

The protection from red swords so she doesn't kill herself.

Basilisk collar to be able to continuously board wipe.

>>52066839
The removal I was talking about wasn't restricted to creature.

The point I was trying to make is that even in the situations where counterspells don't catch all, they still catch more than their off color removal contemporaries while being competitively costed.

I shouldn't bitch about counterspell design because if they were all one mana more nobody would play them, but I've always liked playing colors other than blue and it's almost jealousy at this point.

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>>52066769
>New legend is spoiled
>Chorus of "Oh boy I can't wait to play this stax xD!"

Congratulations, you stuck Winter Orb in a deck. You did it

>>52066923
>they still catch more than their off color removal contemporaries while being competitively costed.
They also give you a far narrower window in which to use them. I can Doom Blade a creature anytime (barring my opponent using something else to give it some sort of protection), but I have to Remove Soul it the moment it's cast. I can't go back and drop Remove Soul a turn later because I was tapped out. That's what you trade off- counterspells can stop a wider range of things, in a much narrower window.

>>52066944
I have Winter Orb in a deck.

It is neither a Stax deck, nor a good one.

>>52066965
I suppose that's true, thanks for making me rethink my position a little bit, like I said earlier the bad blue mage touched me when I was in my magic infancy and I haven't really thought about it up to now.

>>52066974
There's a big difference between a dedicated stax deck and a fuckaround "ironic" fun deck.

>>52067006
This is bait.

>>52067012
It's not ironic, I just suck at deckbuilding.

>>52065229
This post makes no sense. Clearly I found the thread fine if I'm replying. People who browse /tg/ in catalog and aren't regulars are going to miss it though because it has no title. Maybe you should heed your own advice, OP.

>>52067028
Oh. I'm sorry, friend.

>>52067026
this is bait

>>52067066
not an argument

>>52067072
does everything have to be an argument?

why can't we all just get along anon? :^)

>>52067110
Burden of proof is on you.

>>52067237
am I proving that it isn't an argument or that we are actually in love?

I'm pretty confused right now.

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Alright guys, I'm brewing to make this guy not shit. Current idea is to have little to no artifacts or enchantments and run hate for both, with ample symmetric land destruction (Everyone sacs five lands, that sorta thing). To compensate, I'm running every conceivable ramp spell. 2 Artifact wipes, 1 enchantment wipe, 1 for both.

In testing, I've found it does a pretty good job of keeping threats off the board and symmetric land destruction isn't as frowned upon as non-symmetric, but I notice I don't have much of a board presence besides lands and am pretty defenseless on the early stages. Card draw is an issue too. My question is, how would YOU build this man to be competitive while building to gruul's flavour of non-creature/combo/artifact hate? No primal surge Oops all permanents plz. Can it be done?

>>52067327
Furnace of Rath

>>52064526
>4chan
>don't be a jerk
I'm confused.

>>52064526
>>52064526
>4chan
>don't be a jerk
I'm confused.

>>52067327
you can cover your removal and ramp with creatures, Acid Slime, Bane of Progress, FtK, BoP, Wood Elves, etc.
You can card draw with Soul of the Harvest or Primodial Sage

What you need to do is make shit hit the fan. >>52067345
seems pretty good, that or Grafted Exoskeleton to put things in sudden death mode.

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>>52065661
>wedge is a faggot

>>52061308
Frankie Peanuts.

>>52067553
christ I had forgotten about that faggot

>>52061996
With an axe!?

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So I'm trying to figure out a Zoo-style deck where I play Sanic speed aggro with little evasive dudes. Preferably, they would become more threatening the longer they stick. Who's a good general I can look at? Anafenza seems efficient, but I'm not sure if Abzan colors are what I need.

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>>52064294
I never realized how similar the art of this was to these kinds of pictures. There's even a random laughing Gerrard or something there.

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>>52067630
Shut up you serra ascendant-playing faggot

>>52067327
>>52067345
Gratuitous violence has a similar effect and for ruric thar it works just as well.

If you really want to be competitive I think that a creature toolbox approach is probably best for that commander, stuff like fauna shaman or survival of the fittest (although that can get pricey) and birthing pod to search out creatures that have situational effects.

>>52067345
>>52067514

Not bad ideas, I'll shift it to more creature based to get value out of card draw. Thanks guys.

Any other spells that might fit with rurics flavour of no non-creature spells or control/combo? Already got in heartwood on order.

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>>52061594
My LGS is pretty sports central as well, for the superbowl, they had that shit showing on their tv while everyone brought a potluck of bbq, beer, and other picnic style food all the while playing magic.
I feel bad for those of you who will never experience of hearing Patriots making a comeback while casting sphinx rev for 15 while eating fajitas and brisket in between games.

>>52067746
Spellshock will make it hurt a little more, but it's not a creature

Excrutiator will help in the very corner cases

>>52067926
>"dude lmao bbq and sports"
Dude I fucking love me some sports. I was sportsing so hard the other day, goddamn. I was like "holy fuck, I love sports!" and then we all sportsed together.

Never played Blue in my life. I'm thinking of building a Dralnu deck, and I need to figure out how the hell I win.

So far all I can think to do is Assault Suit him up, and pass him around and let fuckers have at em. But obviously that's not a very strong plan at all. I've never built a Spellslinger deck, so I need help figuring out how to do this.

I also have a stupid fucking plan to run Tunnel Vision combos as well as Hive Mind + Junktroller + Grim Reminder. But both of those gameplans are so damn gimmicky, I know it's never gonna work.

So, what does work?

>>52068262
>>52068424
>what does work?
Counter, bounce, kill and self-mill your way into a massive Rise from the Tides

>>52068424
Riptide Lab is your pal.

Well everyone seems to agree that blue is the color of choice for tryhard faggots, and I think most would agree that red is the color for the most bro-tier players.
But what about color combinations? Which one has the most obnoxious players and which one has the most chill?

>>52068695
>bro
BR
BU (not mill)
RG
>faggots
UG
UG again
UR
BG
Most 3 color decks that aren't actually good

>>52068424
DOOMSDAY

>>52068695
>Bro
Most B schemes
Shards
>Tryhard
Sultai
Temur
5C
UG
>Super variable
Other Wedges
UR
BG

>>52068877
>bant
>bro

>>52068695
I'd argue that
-Blue is trying too hard
-Green is boring as fuck but happy being so
-Red is Memelords, sure some are bro-tier but fuck if every Norin player doesn't think they're god's gift to man.
-White is Hipsters
-Black is people who want to tryhard without looking like a blue player

Combos:
-Rakdos is full of masochists
-Selesnya...I really have no comments. They're just kind of there.
-Azorius is fun police, seriously never seen a player running Azorius who didn't suck the fun out of everything.
-Dimir is someone trying to make mill work or be unique, always feel sorry for them
-Boros is either bullshit godhands that get outta hand, or doing nothing the entire game until they hit Kiki/Conscripts
-Gruul is dumb people swinging sideways
-Simic is tryhards that pretend they're not trying hard at all
-Izzet is the "LOLSORANDUMB" garbage players (with the exception of Mizzix players, who are just dickheads who whine when you don't let their commander stick)
-Golgari will whine for years when you play gravehate despite them literally throat fucking you with value otherwise
-Orzhov is combo or boredom and stalling

I don't even wanna touch shards/wedges, it gets too complex after that. But I will say I feel sorry for every Jund player - there's just no options that don't have sacrificing as a key component. Fucking RIP, dude.

>>52068933
Other than the Derevi a-holes, most of them are.

>>52068965
>Roon
>Jenara
>Rafiq
>fucking Pheldagriff
They're literally the epitome of why did you blow up my commander he didn't do anything faggots.

>you're either a stupid idiot or a tryhard no fun allowed asshole
That's when I bust out my 2k Breya and just get to work mining your salt.

>>52068950
so mono green is the only one you like?

>>52069021
The point of these lists is more to air grievances one may have about people playing these archetypes at their LGS or playgroup - nobody really thinks this extreme of an opinion about any one combination except autists. It's just fun to go extreme with a list.

>>52069063
I actually really enjoy playing against everything. Stax can cause some issues with patience, but honestly the only thing that gets to me now is slow play and fucking whiners. "Nobody can answer mass enchantments, waah", Just fucking run enchantment wipes dude.

But yeah I'm just having a giggle making some statements that obviously don't encompass color combinations completely.

>>52069093
oh, okay. Not that I disagree with any of your assessments.

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>>52061261
Anybody have any suggestions to help with this bad boy? I think I may need some more ramp.

>>52069220
I just like how rereading that list, I have little exceptions and disagreements with each...except fucking Selesnya. Like, that basically summarizes the combination perfectly. It's just...there.

>>52069283
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mazirek-tokens-and-death-triggers/
Fuck me, forgot my list

>>52069021
Breya is shit and you could've just been running a Sharuum deck and it would be better.

>>52069472
You sound like a jelly atraxafag your 60 dollar deck wasnt the best. Know your waifu will never be as attractive as Elesh Norn.

>>52069505
I have a foil Elesh Norn and do not own Atraxa but thank you for your input faggot.

>>52069515
Yeah, well, you're a faggot.

>>52069472
Breya gives acesss to goblin welder, scrap mastery, and darreti, so she's pretty good just for her colors imo

>>52069515
>>52069531
Now kiss.

>>52069557
Also if you like jank, slobad and hellkite tyrant too.

>>52069566
Dont forgot the ultimate hellkite igniter

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>>52069472
>johnny combo splerger joins my meta
>likes his artifact sheninigans
>he builds a breya deck
>only uses red for gamble and wheel
>show him Sharuum exists
>little bit of his cum comes out
>next session he destroys us
>mfw we created a monster

>>52062251
That's some bullshit nepotism. 5/7 store, wouldn't buy from again.

>>52069557
But she's part of a three card combo instead of a two card combo.

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>>52069566
>>52069557
I have a Karn deck but, do I turn him into slobad?
I used to have a Bosh deck, but what fun does Slobad add?

>>52069654
What Sharuum combo involves only 2 cards?

>>52069649
How the fuck did he not know Sharuum exists when Sharuum comes in the Breya precon?

>>52069657
Wouldnt slobad and karn be totally different decks? I realized I dont actually know what karn looks like besides myxosynth lattice stuff. Im pretty sure the best slobad is some sort of scrap mastery/eggs combo list

>>52069683
Because not everyone is a no life neckbeard.

>>52069683
Because its a made up story.

>>52069683
He only bought a few singles, not the deck. We allowed him to test with proxies, being new and all.

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>>52069695
Infinite Mana combos are fun.
Basalt Monolith, Gilded Lotus, and any other manarock that taps for 3 goes infinite with Karn and this guy.
I have a few other combos but It's not fully tuned yet. I do miss what red adds though.

>>52069776
Yeah thats not really the same kind of deck I understand a tuned slobad to be. Im sure itd be fine as a slobad deck but youre probably missing out on the few things res would give you. I dont rrallu know what Bosh builds into either besides a shittier daretti or something off thr top of my head.

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Hey folks, been playing for about 2 years within a small group of friends. We typically meet up at a friends house, drink, play a couple 3 player casual/commander games and shoot the shit. I've yet to actually go to any game shop and play because I like the casual style of my little group, but I've been contemplating going. So i'm just wondering how exactly it all works? do I just show up and ask some people if they want to play? i use to play yugioh when i was a kid and we would just duel whoever was around the game shop so i figure the same would apply for magic right? And what's the process for a tournament?

>>52069924
Walk in, ask an employee if they have any EDH currently going on, and if not, what night typically they have people coming around and playing EDH. Everything from there on out is simply asking "hey, need another guy?" and melding into the group.

>>52069573
dumb question but is there a card that makes all of your permanents artifacts? or at least something that could turn all your creatures into artifact creatures?

>>52069825
I meant building a tuned slobad. Karn's fun, but I already have most of the red artifact staples. I'm just not sure what to use with him.

>>52069998
Liquimetal Coating is good for spot-artifacting
Mycosynth Lattice is what you're looking for otherwise.

>>52070003
>mycosynth
>$25
Nope.

>>52070024
It's fucking busted with the right build around it (or even a slightly correct build). It's also exactly what you're looking for, so there it is.

>>52070024
It was 8$ before breya no joke

>>52070073
Except that's wrong, it went up $3-4 on Breya's reveal, but I distinctly remember buying one at $22 last May. Maybe it was lower when Daretti was released, but it's definitely been climbing consistently every year (much like Rings of Brighthearth and a few other artifact staples like Blightsteel Colossus)

>>52070073
>>52070149
And even factchecking myself here now, you can grab a Mycosynth Lattice for about $22 right now still.

>>52070024
Then don't ask.

>>52070149
I haven't been playing for too long, but to my memory, it doubled several times just between around C16 and now:

>>52070193
Just fact checked myself, I'm wrong. It was around 14$ around the time I'm remembering.

>>52064097
What was Wenger thinking sending Walcott on that early?

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>>52070193
>>52070218
You've already corrected yourself, but here's some neat research.

Notable Spikes:
>6 Up to 10
Between Gatecrash and Dragons Maze (March / April 2013)
>10 Up to 15
Between Born of the Gods and Journey into Nyx (March / April 2014)
Commander 2014 is Released November 2014, With Daretti included
>15 Up to 20
Between Khans and FRF (Dec 2014/Jan 2015)
Commander 2016 is released November 2016, with Breya Included
>20 up to 30
Aether Revolt (January 2017) . Starting to rapidly decrease now that speculation for the set died down.
It's also noteworthy that every single time a new set released, Mycosynth temporarily leaped for like a week or two.

So you were right - about 4 years ago, Mycosynth was unbelievably low, at almost $6. Then it began to spike mostly around the times where artifact-strong sets were being released (Mostly commander, although I cannot for the life of me figure out why the spike between Gatecrash and DGM happened).

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>>52067665
Not sure about zoo style, usually just build it with ETB effects and sac outlets. But it fits your other criteria and is fun to play.

Is New Marchesa an auto include in any RBW deck?

>>52065661
>Holy shit, it's like following some faggot from /pol/
So every conservative is "some faggot from /pol/"? At least he's not a librard like every other MTG personality.

>muh Wizards secret agenda
I don't know about secret agendas, but they are trying to push an agenda with tranny characters and gay interracial couples.

>Wedge is a faggot
Wedge IS a faggot.

>>52067514
What the fuck are FtK and BoP?

What are some essential cards to use in multiplayer focused deck? Any color will do.

>>52070704
>So every conservative is "some faggot from /pol/"?
Mate, he literally retweets stuff from the "/pol/ News Network."

>>52070716
Birds of Paradise, and I BELIEVE Flametongue Kavu

>>52070856
Depends on what your deck is trying to do. Group Hug effects, board wipes, Exsanguinate effects are all "essential" for their own decks, but not necessarily overall.

>>52070856
Anything with melee or myriad is hyper comfy.

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>Play my jank Gay Greek Guys group hug deck in XMage
>Game is always over by turn 6 at most
>People always leave if it starts to look like they're going to lose
fug
I just want to play shitty casual decks without having to buy all the cards

>>52070911
Post a list.

>>52070921
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kt-megadraw/

Based around symmetrical draw effects. I don't really care what the win con is, but I want lots of draw for everybody.

>>52071003
>>52070911
It isn't necessarily symmetrical because some decks profit from draw more than others.
Generally speaking, non-interactive win-conditions will have an advantage over interactive win-conditions.
For example, a voltron player will still have to attack X amount of times to win, regardless of how many cards are in their hand.
However, a degenerate combo player can usually combo off as soon as they have the necessary pieces in their hand, which is greatly accelerated by extra card draw.

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New thread when?

>>52067012
Stax cards do have their place in non-stax though. In my Kozilek deck I run Storm Cauldron and winter orb, since they hardly hurt me compared to my opponents. It's a legitimate strategy.

>>52071135
Hmm, alright. So winning through combat isn't the best idea here? Any suggestions for win cons? I'm in 4 colors so I guess there are a lot of options.

>>52064169
Is this just jap Hearthstone?

Dead thread?

>>52071833
Burgers are asleep.

So commanders like Borborgymos and Ruric don't add their proc damage to the total commander damage dealt?

>>52071865
Nope, only combat damage counts towards commander damage.

>1 faggot on edhrec who runs a gallowbraid deck
>uses platinum emporium
It is indeed EDH comedy hour.

>>52070288
>I cannot for the life of me figure out why the spike between Gatecrash and DGM happened
Vandalblast being discovered, maybe.

>>52071420
It looks similar but plays really uniquely compared to other card games.

Mind's dilation anyone?

>>52072412
I run it in Jhoira currently. But its on the cut list so its out once I get my hands on a dark/blightsteel or a kozilkek or something.

>>52072412
fucking great in Rashmi

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>>52061308
We all know there is only one option.

>>52072460
Oh hell man it's in my color's too (running Kruphix currently)

>>52072499
The reason it is so good in Rashmi is that you cast the spell exiled by Mind's Dilation, which triggers Rashmi and casts/draws another free card from the top of your own library

What are some good cards for a patron of the moon deck?

>>52072551
Storm Cauldron and Amulet of Vigor.

If I were to make a monobrown ramp deck, using any one colour as a "base", what should I pick? I have a full suite of rocks and a bunch of eldrazi titans/blightsteel/praetors in basically every colour, what would be the most fun? Red seems like a pretty cool guy, because it has all that spicy expensive tech like Warstorm Surge but I know Blue is clearly the best card draw choice, and green is clearly the best shit-out-lands choice.

>>52072591
>using one color as a base

Wastes exist now my fine colorless friend

>>52072591
Blue is the strongest. You get tutors and cards that actually interact with artifacts. Black and white give you combo pieces, removal and tutors. Green is redundant because artifacts hardly need colored ramp while red only really has any use if you're going the MLD route.

>>52072602
Yes, but why would I build a deck with wastes when I can splash another colour for all their spicy tech?

>>52072612
Well, guess I'm building Jin-Gitaxias monoblue ramp and cantrips. Thanks anon, the tears of my playgroup shall sate my unquenchable bloodlust. I'm also going to build Urabrask tempo fuckery and forks for 1v1 because I'm a dick like that.

alright folks I have malfunction, claustrophobia, ice over, and imprisoned in the moon for the sole purpose of delaying threats- I can only take 2, which ones would I take?

>>52063363
98 mountains and Valakut

>>52063947

I'm taking that last line. Autists get all excited when I reveal my power level.

I hate out autist-ing the autists. Happens more than Id like to admit.

>>52064169

95% Marchesa the Black Rose

>>52066500

>be le trole
>u r so mad lololol

>>52066829

As someone who fell for memes, you're falling for one yourself.

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>Blue is either trying too hard or a LOLRANDOM red player in disguise
>Green is trying too hard, but no one gets salty from it because green is perceived as weak (even though it has great creatures and card draw)
>Red is for memers or Meren players who jerk off to mech hentai
>White is for bland people who like to have answers for everything, but no real creativity. Some are blue players in disguise (the ones that play Iona)
>Black is for people who fell for the BIGBLACKMANA meme (see blacked.com)

-Rakdos is for edgelords or anti-establishment control players
-Selesnya makes tokens that no one wants to
-Azorius is fun police as someone previously said
-Dimir is either a blue tryhard who sucks at counterspell management or a fun guy who likes neat cards
-Boros is the "me against the world", underdog-wannabe hipster
-Gruul is for fans of battlecruiser magic who sometimes stumble on to degeneracy (Omnath)
-Simic is for the blandest easymode players
-Izzet is for durdlers who can make the shittiest deck ever and still win because UR ir bullshit
-Golgari is for the guy who wants a "strategy-in-a-can" deck and just picks Meren.
-I haven't had enough experience with Orzhov to judge them.

>>52065661

Wedge is a faggot, but at least he puts out original content (no matter how cringy it often is). MTGHQ just opens boxes, doesn't even give interesting comments on cards, and posts #youtubedrama videos.

>>52061308
What a little faggot. Did you cry on election day?

>>52067553
What is this meme?

>>52073001
So what you're saying is Child of Alara

>>52073128
Tri-color master race. Esper here pls no bully Sharuum gives us a bad name.

If I give Dromar, the Banisher protection from white, will that stop him from bouncing himself?

>>52066327
Actually, that's exactly what you were implying

>>52073182
Pretty sure his ability says ALL creatures of the chosen color so I don't think so

>>52073182

Protection means: "This [object] can't be blocked, targeted, dealt damage, or enchanted by anything [quality]"

Dromar's ability doesn't block, target, deal damage or enchant the things it affects.

So protection doesn't shield from it.

>>52073331
Also equipment and fortifications.

>>52071003
>I don't really care how I win, but I want to make it way easier for other people to win
Well I guess you did say it was a shitty deck
It's xmage free? I'll hop on if it is, im sure there's already a group that plays from tg

>>52071003
Hive Mind and Kaseto for the Great Snake Mistake would be good additions. Alhamarret's Archive, Thought Reflection and Forced Fruition would be worth trying too.

>>52064773
>>52064793
Don't forget to Bleach their Lands before casting All is Dust!!

>>52073311
>>52073331
I see, thanks lads

>>52068950
Norin players are the the problem, not mono-red. They don't represent us.

>>52071003
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kt-megadraw/
Run Obstinate Familiar and Laboratory Maniac.
Run more Turbofog elements.
Draw everyone to death.

>>52072740
I'm a huge fan of imprisoned in the moon, others are a tossup for me.

>>52072740
Moonjail is easily the best of the options since it totally blanks the offending card. I'd put either Ice Over or Malfunction as the second one; they hit a wider range than Claustrophobia.

I want to buy a booster box for drafting fun w/ friends and still be able to use the cards for EDH
which set is best for that?

>>52073804
Conspiracy 2 is your best bet IMO. Maybe MM17 when it's out but that's gonna be p expensive I guess.

>>52073804
Scars of mirrodin.
If you're talking about affordable, eternal masters l, conspiracy 2 or mm17.

>>52073844
>>52073860
Guess CON 2 will be my best bet.
I can't believe after all these years, Conspiracy is only slightly more expensive than TTC

>>52070695
Monarch is a fun keyword, so yes

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I've got a dimir reanimator deck and I've got a question:

Is it worth splashing white for the 8-ish decent reanimation targets and reanimation spells in that color?

What's the best commander for reanimator in Esper?

Aside from that, what kind of cards should I look for to make myself more resilient in multiplayer when 3 people are shitting on me for being a dirty graveyard player? I tend to ramp, then loot, and then reanimate and by the time I reanimate I'll already be at 20 life or something

thanks in advance friends

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just ordered this
lets play
GUESS THE COMANDER

>>52074172

Krenko?

>>52074052
Sharuum.

>>52074211
I was gonna say Krenko but all those non-goblins (sans Purphoros) are throwing me off

>>52074221
>>52074211
nope

>>52074172
Zada

>>52074242
ding ding ding
we have a winner

>>52074221
Oh yeah I forgot to specify that I hate artifacts with a burning passion, and I also hate artifact recursion specifically with the force of a thousand suns

I'm basically considering sen triplets since it's a goodstuffy and fun creature that I can also reanimate when it inevitably gets fucking annihilated. Sadly it's 20 bucks though

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>>52074301
>Wants to play esper
>Doesn't want to play artifacts
If you hate artifacts so much, why doncha play Naya artifact hate

>>52074236
Wasn't replying to you faggot.

>>52074301
That's literally the same as regular reanimator and no one says you have to use Sharuum to reanimate artifacts.

On that note the white reanimator spells suck ass so don't use them, only worry about removal in white.

Why would you reanimate Sen Triplets though? Also she's an artifact so you can't do that.

>>52074340
because i want to reanimate big funny creatures and esper has a lot of them

>>52074301
Lady Evangela is surprisingly trolly.

Ertai the Corrupted is fair for reanimation since you can bring back what you sac if you're doing value recursion.

Halfdane if you want to recur a retarded big critter, since then you've got retarded big on commander damage.

>>52074352
G&G zombies then

>>52074379
but my local LGS will ban me for life for playing Yosei with a dimir identity commander

>>52074401
THEN DON'T PLAY YOSEI
YOU ARE MAKING THIS HARDER FOR YOURSELF

>>52074459
but i want to

>>52074467
Okay, let me make this plain.

If you want to play Yosei, you're going to have to play Esper, which may involve playing a Commander you're not crazy about.

If you want to play a Commander you love, you won't be able to play Yosei.

NEW THREAD

>>52074495
>>52074495
>>52074495
>>52074495

>>52074052
If you splash white you also gain access to some of the best pillowfort in the game. Also, Sharuum is indeed your best bet, especially if you do a lot of self-milling (although you will receive a lot of hate).

If the hate is too big a problem try Oloro instead (although people tend to get salty when you don't actually build around him and never cast him).

You could try halfdane too if you reanimate a big creature and go for commander damage instead via blue unblockable shenanigans.

>>52074604
>>If the hate is too big a problem try Oloro instead (although people tend to get salty when you don't actually build around him and never cast him).

the cool thing about oloro is that i could probably put him on the helm of my current dimir deck and he would still bring in more value from the command zone alone than my current commander lmfao

fucking wotc

>>52073021
His autistic 4chan-esque rants against 'the sjw establishment', and their reactions to said rants, are hilarious though.

>>52073001
>-Izzet is for durdlers who can make the shittiest deck ever and still win because UR ir bullshit
Then how come every UR deck in our playgroup gets the shit kicked out of it everytime we play.

UR is mediocre as fuck.

i enjoy my mizzix deck greatly though.