Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>52051967
> (AI, law 2, restrain the clowns)
Is that a fucking SS13 reference

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>>52051967

It's too early to make plans(and buy boxes) for a Fallen army?

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>>52051980
We may never know.

What would 40k SS13 look like?

>>52051980
I wouldn't know I just pastad it instead of making my own quote like I normally do
I assumed it was Asimov's laws being referenced though

>>52051996
maybe, but they're loyalists meqs so 10 dudes with a plasma gun in a rhino is done across the books

>>52051991
I dont like juggalos

one sucked my dick once and called me homie

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>>52051996
it's too late, now people will think you're bandwagoning

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>playing dawn of war as imperial guard
>"I'll give my life if that's what's asked!" t. imperial guardsman
>morale break
>"IT'S EVERY SOLDIER FOR HIMSELF"
>"RUN FOR YOUR LIVES"
>"WE CAN'T HOLD THEM"
Thanks a lot you fucking cunts.

>>52052040
>will think
Too late THEY KNOW

>>52052051
Get a Commisar

>>52052040

That's honestly half the reason I started my sisters now, so that if at some layer point a new dex and models come out I could point at my conversions and say proudly I'd played them before they hit plastic.

Well...Voldus may be shit but at least we get a new formation that might help us...right?

Please...?

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>>52052051
>he thinks the empty bravado was sincere
>in an army famous for its poor morale

>>52052087
>making a sisters army post-celestine/veridyan
you have no hipster cred

>>52052088

Nope. You get shit on. Just accept it. Your minis are still fucking baller for the most part though. At least you have that.

>>52052017

I have some spare Terminators to paint: Fallen Termi are too weird to see?

>>52052106

Eh, I don't really care about that too much. I'll still have more claim than whoever jumps on at that point. And I can't exactly help being an absolute new fag.

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>>52052097
sh-shut up fag...

I was surprised to see that Mortarion was quicker to get a move on than Angron.

>>52052038
You have been afflicted by the curse of the juggalo. Now every full moon you will become a clown yourself and seek the dark carnival, sucking dicks as you go.

Anyone have a good image of the fallen logo? I want to vectorize it

>>52052149
Isnt Angron banished for a thousand years after his defeat in Armageddon?

>>52052165
yu full of shit dawg im fyne

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Rolled 6, 5 = 11 (2d6)

if 10+ my dark vengeance set will be finished and will look good

>>52052185

The more powerful Daemons can return after a century or so.

>>52052203
Have you been noticing empty faygo bottles in your house?

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>>52052205
kek has smiled upon you, do your best.

>>52051996
Kek as if GW will actually put out any kits for them.
Only boxes to buy are DA ones, don't buy into the mini-dexes meme.

>>52052185
A hundred years. Unless he got banished at some point after that, he would have been off the bench for at least half a millennium by the time Rowboat woke up.

>>52052229
have you ever noticed how penis sorta taste like the sweetest of red pop?

it's so fuckin wierd I just realized that write now for sum reason

>>52052051
>no commissars.
>not playing ultimate apocalypse for entire squads of commisars

Anon....

I beat Eldar as Orks once.

>>52051967
what do you call a annoying ghetto robot?
a NECK-cron
Get it guys?
Guys?
I need to get of 4chan.

>>52052284
>using cadets in UA
>using Commissar Command Squad in UA
shigdig my bro

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>>52052294
I don't get it

>>52052051
>weakest leadership
>7

i don't get it. hell most leadership checks are easy enough to pass and everyone has rerolls/fearless/stubborn/etc. the average guardsman has done some decent training to fight the darkness

>>52052108
possibly, i think someone posted some fallen in the last thread.

Tell me about your chapter/warband/clan/craftworld/kabal/hive fleet/cult/regiment/forge world/sept/dynasty/etc.
Tell me about your dudes, why you love your faction.

>>52052269

I could take a Starting Collection box: Space Marine or Blood Angels?
I don't like Dreadnoughts so much

>>52052353
I'm making a fictional sept which is spess switzerland/austria for my tau army which I need to make

>>52052239
Always rumembah ta thin ya paints 'n get a nie, fine tip on ya brush!

>>52052353

My dudes are an Emperor's Children warband; they still use the traditional, pre-heresy colors of the III Legio Astartes, as well as preferring smoother lines and Imperial symbols--all the better to make a mockery of their foes. They call themselves the Perfected Brotherhood, and count among their number a throng of daemonettes lead by a Keeper of Secrets and a Renegade Knight from a fallen household.

>>52052353
Cult Mechanicus and Skitarii from Forge World Mezoa. They're angry fuckers who REEE at heretics dating back all the way to the Heresy and use flamers/melta/the molten, magma surface of their forgeworld itself as a weapon.

>>52052294
what do necks have to do with ghetto?

>>52052382
What does that entail WIP-wise?

>>52052006
Commisars are as hated as janitors, but they're allowed to kill people at random.

>>52052414
Who would hate the noble janitor?

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>>52052353
well my daemons are an odd bunch following some heralds of slaanesh who tune into those that dance too good. psykers like to have ya know?

not sure about my biel-tan, guess we're drifters kicking ass while trying to find a new home

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>>52052353
I like the Eldar because they are a dying race, thus my craftworld does not actually have any dudes left alive to represent my lack of models.

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>>52052353

I am developing a new guard regiment. I am reusing my Cadian army because I decided I did not like their heads, nor their color scheme.

I call these guys - The Axillian 23rd Mechanized Regiment "Ash Dogs"

>>52052239
Always rumembah ta thin ya paints 'n get a nice, fine tip on ya brush!

>>52052442
You could just do a Wraith host

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>>52052353
Chaos. Pure Chaos. No other legion has remained as unified, nor as strong as the Word Bearers in the time after the heresy. No other legion has given themselves wholly to Chaos, either. What's interesting is that the Word Bearers treat lesser Daemons as beneath themselves, and even forcefully bind and oppress them.

Cypher formation WHEN

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Any feedback on this list for a IG army? The russes would be thunderers from the imperial armour book.

>>52052513
this

>>52052533
also the 40 man blobs would have the priests and astropaths

>>52052513
how are the Fallen?

>>52052398
The sept of Dau'nar is a peaceful world, in contains the bankingservers, and also provides peace and proseprity to to other sectors. It is known for the water caste peacekeepers, fire caste placed under command of the water caste to act as MP's.

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>>52052485
>No other legion has remained as unified, nor as strong as the Word Bearers in the time after the heresy.

>>52052558
We don't know, only rules leak thus far is papa smurf.

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>>52052560
>thinking a WBfag would tell the truth
>thinking a WBfag would not be a deluded faggot
decimation now

>>52052353
Behemoth splinter fleet gets sent way back in time due to warp shenanigans, makes an uninhabitable system habitable and then eats everything
Currently have 2 1/2 pages if fluff just on the timeline of the system

>>52052560
Then how did Kharn become 'the betrayer?'

Did the Word Bearers get decent rules with Traitor Legions? I have a secret desire to play Chaos but, can't make a choice on which subsect to play.

>>52052596
>Kharn
>Word Bearers

>>52052560
He's technically right. Black Legion is a successor to the shattering of the Sons of Horus and an influx of anyone willing to take the black.
The World Eaters, Night Lords, Emperor's Children, and Alpha Legion are all shattered into numerous autonomous warbands.
Cases could be made for Iron Warriors, Death Guard, and Thousand Sons being far more unified, but they're so much smaller.
Word Bearers are unified (though there is tremendous tension between the camps of Kor Phaeron and Erebus) across the galaxy.
The thing that makes them so truly dangerous is that the Word Bearers are incredibly ordered and disciplined in their approach to worship.

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>>52052584

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>>52052485

[heresy intensifies]

Did you know that most Cadians have pale skin and violet eyes?

New to 7th edition
How are non tau army lists able to run a riptide formation without taking a tau hq and troop choice?
I dont get it

>>52052617

Genestealer infection confirmed. No wonder they blew that planet up.

>>52052609
Lorgar is a fag tho.

>>52052617
>people bitch about Tau being anime inspired but Cadia is literally a planet of Mary Sue donutsteel waifubait which is the best at everything and had no flaws
Abbadon did nothing wrong

>>52052602
No.
One of the worst, iirc.

>>52052602
They're alright for summoning Daemon allies but if you were playing optimally you would just take Daemons to summon Daemon allies.

Still usable if you like summoning though not on the level of quality cheese of Death Guard and World Eaters

>>52052633
Lorgar was a fag.
His character arc is incredible once he dedicated himself to being the biggest and most efficient cunt ever.

>>52052620
First understand that now armies can take more than one force org at any points level

Next realize that there are formations that consist of certain models that count as a single force org

Then cry as people make armies of nothing but riptides, wraith knights and windriders

>>52052391

>My dudes are an Emperor's Children warband; they still use the traditional, pre-heresy colors of the III Legio Astartes, as well as preferring smoother lines and Imperial symbols--all the better to make a mockery of their foes.

This is literally my exact plan if I ever get around to making an EC army. I presume that it's because either A) you already have an EC HH army and want to use it in both games or B) the new scheme is fucking ugly and FW is far superior. Or both.

>>52052638
>genestealer cultists
>waifubait
I mean if you're gay I guess.

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It should be illegal to be this smug.

>>52052620
You don't need to use the "Allied Detachment" to take allies. If you bring a formation with a different faction to your main force, then they're just counted as allies too.

So faggots use the Riptide Wing (three squads of Riptides, no tax units, and they get formation rules that BUFF them) as allies to their main force to add layers of cheese.

>>52052691
>implying animefaggots are not gay

>>52052692
I feel like I'm the only fan of Erebus.
He's just so delightfully evil.
Reminds me of Dr. Betruger from Doom 3.
Such an evil fuck.

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>>52052692

>>52052609
>influx of anyone willing to take the black
BLACKED.com

>>52052627
They were like that long before any Nids arrived in the galaxy. Living on a world so close to the Eye does funny things to the local population's gene pool.

>>52052709
Not hating, but the lack of tragedy in his story really drove me away from his character personally. He's just such a fucking cunt without the excuse of being driven to his actions or anything. I see people being into him for exactly that reason, though.

>>52052692
Erebus is great in the Word Bearers Omnibus. He actually feels like a powerful dude who's in charge.

>>52052717
>jobbed to Draigo
>thinks he can do shit against G-Money
Morty's smugness will be a thing of the past soon enough.

>>52052596
Doesnt kharn hate what has become of the world eaters? Isnt that why he doesnt care if he kills a few of his own during battle.

>>52052792
Khârn hates everything.

>>52052742
That's basically their recruitment department's MO.

>>52052775
The only thing that keeps Bobby alive is Yvraine's love and life support.

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>>52052709
>Doom 3

>>52052792
Kharn kills everything, he only cares about killing, he has no feelings for his legions because he only has one emotion and thats "Kill em all".

So I was evaluating my current list and I realized just how much of 'that guy' I've become lately. I know it isn't particularly relevant to anything but it was a pretty crushing realization.

>>52052669
>>52052694
I still dont get it
So theres formations that you can just tack onto anything? Wheres the rules for it?
Whats the point of the allied detachment then? Could you just field riptide formations as your whole army with no hqs or anything?
This doesnt match the rules ive been reading

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>>52052811
>Yvraine's love

>>52052811
And the only thing keeping Mortarion alive is the thousands of light years that separate him from Rowboat.

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>>52052584
And Voldus...

He sucks and is extremely uninspired. You might as well continue taking Draigo...

>>52052828
>So theres formations that you can just tack onto anything?
Yup.
>Wheres the rules for it?
Usually in the codex. Not all codices have them though.
>Whats the point of the allied detachment then?
It's a holdover from 6th edition where you could take allies but formations didn't exist. Yes it's mostly pointless now.
>Could you just field riptide formations as your whole army with no hqs or anything?
Yeah, but it'd be a shit army.
>This doesnt match the rules ive been reading
Yes it does, read the rulebook's sections on formations carefully. Fielding an army made of nothing but formations is entirely legal.

>>52052846
Dumb frogposter

>>52052825
Tell us more about it, anon. What army do you play? What's your usual list? Your local meta?

>>52052831
Are their vehicles any good?

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Are these badly painted models or am I just bad at judging quality?

Mostly colour selection and paint scheme.

>>52052846
>not taking him AND Draigo and generic Libby and squadding up with some Paladins to make Draigostar great again
Nigga I don't even play GK. Step up.

Who would win in a fight between Guilliman and like three Abbadons?

>>52052828
>So there's formations that you can just tack onto anything?
yes

>Wheres the rules for it?
In this new book better pay up

>Could you just field riptide formations as your whole army with no hqs or anything?
yes

>This doesn't match the rules I've been reading
GW doesn't care about the rules they care about money and formations sell books/models.

>>52052558
Only thin we know about them is that they are BB with IoM (except Dangles) and CSM, and AoC with assorted Eldar, Orks, and Crons. DA with Tau. CtA with the rest of chaos and nids.

Probably the easiest faction to ally in the game.

>>52052866
>anon asking if Custodes vehicles are any good
They're really good.

Like, REALLY good.

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>>52052879
The level of detail is outstanding and the painting quality is amazing, but the scheme is shit and the models are far too busy. So yes, you are right.

>inb4 that's supposed to be what Tzeentch is like

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>>52052860
Oh, I was just trying a different image for once. You prefer this one?

>>52052883
That runs about 1000 points. What do you do with the rest? 2 Dreadknights and a Termie Squad?
Also, that "Deathstar" lives up to it's name. S8 will rape 6/7 models it's made up of because GW couldn't even be bothered to give the poor bastard Eternal Warrior.

>>52052879
Magnus looks dumb. Would be better if his skin was red and the rainbow shit was only on his wings and armor, would give better contrast that would make him easier on the eye, instead the whole model just melts into itself. The LoC is cool though, although I think there should be higher contrast on facial features and claws.

>>52052863

I play Eldar and my list is pretty stereotypical in how awful it is at this point. I'm running double Reborn Warhosts - 4 units of Scatbikes, 2 big units of reavers, webway d-scythes, a wraithknight, the whole thing.

My local meta is pretty competitive - lots of top 50 LVO finishers, ETC.

>>52052051
>>52052074
> Get a commissar
> Not getting a priest
Shut the fuck up and just get priests. YOU CAN'T BREAK MORALE IF YOU'RE FUCKING FEARLESS ZEALOTS.

>>52052903
I hate looking at models like these
Like you KNOW they can do better than this because of the precision and detail but it's so fucking busy that it basically loses its silhouette in the midst of it all

>>52052879
They are well painted but the artist has no sense of aesthetics. Either that or its ironic.

>>52052684

Mostly B; also I'd like to try 30k out at some point, and I really like some of the third legion HH models, so I picked those up but wanted to use them in 40k too (the kakophoni, eidolon, etc).

>>52052709
>Reminds me of Dr. Betruger from Doom 3.
>being reminded of doom 3 in any way
>a good thing

>>52052906
>shooting S8 at a deathstar
>when it's Invisible thanks to your boy Voldus
>implying this will happen more than like twice in a game before Draigo teleports them behind u and unsheaths the Titansword
So do you just not know how deathstars are supposed to work?

>>52052825
It's never too late to change anon! Show us your list so we can tell you how to stop being a faggot

>>52052906

Do you know how to cast invis?

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>>52052946

Realistically I just need to swap to a new army.

>>52052825
well you should've realized that you were "that guy" after you had crushed a few lists and been drinking the blood of virgins.

>>52052912
if you're playing in a cut throat environment then why are you worried? the view from the top of the hill must at least be nice if lonely. unless you wanna have more fluffy fun games, that I can understand.

>>52052879
I really like, looks messy and chaotic which is what I expect.

Magnus with a white face and skin pink shoulders makes him look like the lead singer in a heavy metal band though.

>>52052903
This is awful, messy and chaotic doesn't fit the clean, straight lines and flat surfaces eldar have.

Are Cataphractii terminators better for assault or shootan?

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>>52052958
Bloodletter horde is an option.

Not a good one, mind you, but Bloodletters are fun.

>>52052958
>Realistically I just need to swap to a new army
That's a good idea actually. Playing ultra competitively is draining, and is more of a headache than it's worth. I'd suggest picking up a sub-optimal army you like the lore or aesthetics of and just try to have fun with it. Maybe even try narrative campaigns or something if you have people you can do it with

In a super competitive meta it might be hard, but it's something to consider if you don't want to end up like one of those sweaty guys who turn every rule dispute into a fight

>>52053015
They aren't the best at assault due to a lack of TH/SS, but you can give them all chainfists and also make the sarge useful, unlike a normal Termie squad. They are better than claw Assault Termies if given claws, too.

They are shit at shooting due to combi-bolters over stormbolters and a lack of access to Terminators' only decent shooting weapons. If you take them at all, gear them for assault. but they NEED a transport even more than regular Termies.

>>52052934
>>52052947
>implying you'll get any powers off when every other psyker oriented army makes GK look like babby's first warp channeling

So, let's assume 1850 for the list. 245 for Draigo, 240 for Voldus, and 350 give or take for a kitted out Paladin Squad. So we're running 1000 so far. Let's add 2 kitted Dreadknights just to make sure our opponent thinks we're cheesing when really they're really one of the best tools in our children's book of a codex. 225 with Teleporter, Psycannon, Incinerator and Sword, 215 with no sword. So that's 450 max. Ok, 1450 now, Need a mandatory troop, so either 165 for 5 plain Termies, or put on a helmet and for 110 you take a Strike Squad. Assume you ditch the helmet and go with more Termies. 1615. Boost that to 205 if you kit them out like I do: Falchions on Justicar, 1 hammer, 3 Halberds and a Psycannon.1660. Oh fuck, we sure as hell lack the ability to table an opponent, we might gimp them hard if we roll well, but 0% chance of tabling them with such low unit numbers. Let's add an interceptor squad for objectives. 130 base. That leaves us with a few points to fuck around with for Mastercrafting weapons/melta bombs/digital weapons.

So, 7 Model Death Star, 2 MC's, and 2 5 Man units. 19 models. If somehow you manage to botch the rolls like I do on a regular basis, that's a prime recipe for a turn 3 concede.

>>52053009

I've just gotten tired with it. 'Competitive' 40k (which I know elicits its own reactions) is such a slog these days, too many books, sources, etc. My list (which is fairly light) still requires 3 books to play.

>>52053017

I've been tinkering with a few different lists - my Eldar are black and green with orange accents so I'm looking at something that presents a brighter palette so Blood Letters are a possibility.

>>52053061

I agree 100% - I'm strongly considering going with Scions, I just really like the way that army can look if done well.

>>52052958
Have you considered trying... Pure harlequins?
Pure Deldar lists?
Guard?
Blood angels?
Orks?

>>52052846
>Voldus
Where?

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>>52053072
>due to combi-bolters over stormbolters
Combi-bolters are of the only things that I like about Chaos Termis more than regular termis. 4 TL shots at 12" or less is great.

>>52053088
Just go Chaos, mate. Chaos is glorious. Look how cute this dog is. Look how much it just wants to tear open the flesh of a Psyker with it's set of chompers. Look how much I'm jealous that it's the only plastic Flesh Hound.

>>52053106
https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2017/03/05/triumvirate-of-the-primarch-tactical-review-grand-master-voldus/

>>52052915
Fearless units cannot go to ground.

>>52053080
>implying every other army is heavily psyker-oriented
>implying "m-m-muh botched rolls" is a good reason to drop a list
How about you show us some mathhammer there buddy?

>>52053072
Alright. I don't plan on using them, I only really wanted the tactical marines from B@C but bought the whole box.

>>52052958
>WK and bike spam
Jesus christ.

What other armies do you like?

>>52053093

I do own enough Harlequins to play pure Harlies (and sometimes do). I also run a pure Dark Eldar list and do quite well with it.

Guard are my favorite lore army - I got in to 40k because of Gaunt's Ghosts.

I don't really like the SM aesthetic sans MAYBE Exorcists.

Orks have never done much for me but I like Mega Armored Nobz alot.

>>52053080

I haven't been involved in this before now but if you can't get psychic powers off when you generate 10+ D6 warp charges it is your fault, not the army's. I get psychic powers off on a consistent basis generating 6 + D6.

>>52053148
>I get psychic powers off on a consistent basis generating 6 + D6
Out of curiosity, how many powers can you cast a turn using your list? How many dice do you throw on near-mandatory shit like Invisibility, and when do you cast the crucial powers?

>>52052289
Give me your address.

>>52053093
Pure Guard?

>>52053088
This is another huge annoying reason that I don't like competitive 40k. The last list I brought to a tournament required 8+ different documents.

> Core Rulebook
> Space Marines Codex
> Badab War Characters Update
> Badab War Chapter Tactics
> Angels of Death
> Imperial Armour 2: Warmachines of the Adeptus Astartes
> Deredeo Dreadnought Rules PDF
> Additional printouts of various collected forgeworld emails regarding multiple FAQs and rules issues.

I literally require an entire binder to run this shit.

>>52053143

Guard and Scions, AdMech stuff too.

>>52053163

Depends - I've moved away from Death Star play so I don't push Invis as often. I'm running the Ynnari powers a lot lately, they're very solid. Normally I'm casting about 3 or 4 powers a turn - I tend to bait out dice early with the 'take a soul burst' power and then slip spirit hooks and Word of Asurmen.

>>52053122
>mathhammer
Statistics don't mean shit in practice on the tabletop. You have a 100% chance to fuck up your rolls and a 100% chance to pass them at the same time and you don't find out which one it is until you roll. Schrodinger's Dice, nigga.

>>52053148
>10+D6 is somehow imposing
When shit like Daemons can pump out 20+ warp charges effortlessly.

I cast Invis. Deny. I cast Sanctuary. Deny. I cast Banishment. Denied.

>>52053203

I know that feeling - its sad but I actually invested in an iPad for 40k. I use it for other stuff now but I first bought it for 40k and lessening my book load.

>>52053119
Zealot is not fearless

>it's late at night and all the scionfags and harlefags are roaming about

Cozy

>>52053229

You do know you harness more often than deny right? They don't get to throw equal dice.

Also if you're running an Imperial Deathstar why don't you have a Librarius Conclave? It is a better choice than paladins for a Draigo Voldus vessel. Ultimately (and I've seen you post for like the past 3 days) it seems like you don't know much about being good at 40k and get mad when people give you advice on how to be better.

>>52053245

Units with Zealot cannot go to ground so the point is moot.

>>52053247
It's like 8PM dude.

>>52053203
raptors anon pls go

>>52053229
>You have a 100% chance to fuck up your rolls and a 100% chance to pass them at the same time and you don't find out which one it is until you roll
This isn't how this shit works you absolute nigger. Don't tell me you actually subscribe to the meme of determinism or believe statistics are 100% (in your words) useless in determining the most likely outcome of a given play.
>When shit like Daemons can pump out 20+ warp charges effortlessly
>comparing anything to Daemons, the premier psychic army in the whole game bar none
Nigga...

>>52053211
>I tend to bait out dice early with the 'take a soul burst' power and then slip spirit hooks Am I missing something? Spirit Hook seemed like a somewhat meh power when I looked at it.
>Word of Asurmen
Do you mean Will of Asuryan?

>>52053271
Get in my time zone faggot

>>52053255
Because gay knights got one sub-par book and all the asspie powergamers are upset they didn't get the next wraithknight/riptide wing

>>52053273
>I tend to bait out dice early with the 'take a soul burst' power and then slip spirit hooks
Am I missing something? Spirit Hook seemed like a somewhat meh power when I looked at it.

fucked up my greentext

>>52053230
I have all of the .pdfs on my phone, but I also have a binder back at home with all relevant papers that I bring to tournaments. In casual games I just go-over the details of the obscure forgeworld stuff I'm bringing, and gloss over everything that I expect people to be used to, or can reasonably understand.

I just automatically expect everyone to know what a contemptor is and what it does, but not everyone knows about how legacies of glory work.

>>52053273

Sorry I meant Ancestor's Grace which is a nice additive for a Wraithknight.

>>52053298

It's super solid when you have LD10 psykers and use it to pop the heads off Grav marines.

>>52053203
Raptors anon pls go and stay go your autism is bleh

>>52053285
It's like what, 11PM at the latest?

You are American... right?

>>52052617
Violet eyes are no longer present.
the originally inhabitants that had those traits were exterminated by the Word Bearers to hide any sign of what occurred there. Cadia was settled as an empty world according to Imperial records.

>>52053337
>It's super solid when you have LD10 psykers and use it to pop the heads off Grav marines
Oh shit how did I miss it being focussed? That answers that.
So how many dice do you throw to get it on target reliably? Like 3?

>>52053372
The "Modern" cadians had a resurgence of the violet eyes trait within just a handful of generations of recolonizing the planet. Having Violet Eyes is an extremely common benign mutation for ANY planet that's sufficiently close to the eye of terror.

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if most of the Dark Angels had violet eyes given how close their fortress monastery is to the eye of terror.

>>52053379

Usually - Most of the time I'll spirit stone it on one of my 2 farseers - depends on how many dice I have left. I tend to have around 10-11 dice so I try to keep 5 for it (when applicable). But yeah it being focused actually means you can clutch out with it.

>>52053372

the violet eyes are a result of the eye of terror in the sky

>>52052353

The fluff for my sisters is actually based on old battles with friends back in 4th edition and how I lost the ability to run my jump canoness with the 5th WD update.

They are from the Order of the Martyr's Shroud, a minor order that broke off from the Argent Shroud after their leader Martyred herself in battle against a mighty Tyrant. Her sacrifice allowed several holy relics to be recovered following a Tyranid invasion of the shrine world they were guarding. Once the relic were claimed, her Seraphim honor guard recovered the body, refusing to let the tryanids recycle her. Ultimately, the world was lost to the massive fleet, but most of the planets holy relics were recovered.

It was later discovered that their canoness has sustained several mortal wounds during her fight, which had soaked and stained her robes red with blood. Each blow was enough to strike a mortal man dead, and yet she kept fighting until all the relics were recovered. She was declared a saint, and the Marty's Shroud, the blood soaked robes of the once living saint, were passed on to her successor, and are said to offer the same protection. Each sister who fought that day traded in their white vestments for red in honor of their fallen leader.

>>52053273
>>52053340
What the fuck gives it away?

>>52053472
Space marines
Supplements that have the raptors rules
A deredeo dread
What DOESN'T give it away

>>52053472
>badab wars
>deredeo
>FW email faqs that aren't actually legal unless printed on their website due to the fact that there have been multiple conflicting emails and some that have contradicted Bligh's words in which he specifically said that he intended Iron Tyrants as Heavy support even though the email said they could be Elites or heavies, for example.

>>52053472
Babad and deredeo, we also know how you type. to your credit i would play you offline if you were in Houston and i think we'd have fun

If Blood Ravens descend from Magnus' stock, does that technically make them a first-founding chapter?
What about the Silver Skulls?

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>>52053340
To be fair, his autism really isn't as bad as the current gaggle of shitposters we have here, and he barely shitposts himself much anymore. In fact aside from the rare battle report shilling his Leviathan and/or Rough Riders he barely posts as Raptors Anon at all, I only pick up on him because I... Well, I just do.

>>52053519
gr8 b8, I give it a sage/10

>>52053519
No, there's no evidence towards Blood Ravens being first founding, nor is there evidence for the games being canon.

Silver Skulls are 2nd founding, as they were made from UM split during the founding, with rumoured IW stock.

Carcharodons Astra actually are first founding due to them being split before the Heresy, being the Pale Nomads, the exiled Terrans of the Raven Guard.

>>52053531
Same. He really should do Orks, or some other army where his autistic conversion would work, if they were appropriate. Like Chaos Space Marines, maybe.

>>52053538
Genuine questions for discussion, friend.

>>52053255
>They don't get to throw equal dice
Explain? As far as I know they can throw as many as they fucking want, and if my main objective is to get invisibility off, they can sure as hell throw 8+ dice to make sure it gets denied.

When you get a rough average of 12-13 Warp charge dice total after the bonus D6 and have to spend at least 4(I usually end up throwing 6) to pray you get at least 2 4+'s for invisibility(because the only way to get harnessing on a 3+ is to run a 2000+ point formation or Lib Conclave, and my main aim is to make a pure GK or mostly pure GK/Inq army that won't get insta-tabled.) and then another one or 2 4+'s to give yourself a cushion in case the opponent rolls a few 6's it just makes it even more frustrating when you end up getting shitcanned.

>>52053273
It's not that I subscribe to determinism or whatever, but saying that you have an X amount of odds to make Y happen doesn't mean shit because dice and physics don't care how many tests you've botched, the chance will remain the same, and if you mess up 20 in a row before making 1, you may as well consider a 100% chance or 0% chance until you find out the result even though statistics says it'll happen every X amount of times on average.

>>52053572
>saying that you have an X amount of odds to make Y happen doesn't mean shit because dice and physics don't care how many tests you've botched, the chance will remain the same, and if you mess up 20 in a row before making 1, you may as well consider a 100% chance or 0% chance until you find out the result even though statistics says it'll happen every X amount of times on average
Oh, so you just don't know how statistics works at all. Gotcha.

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>>52053531
I'm still baffled as to how you recognize me every time I post. Come to think of it I have never seen you false-positive someone either.

I could be posting something totally unrelated to raptors, and you would still ID me on the spot.

>>52053563
I've painted orks before on comission for friends. It seems like a genuinely fun army to play and paint. But right now I'm actually painting Battletech mechs for someone to pay for my next conversion.

>>52053531
>I only pick up on him because I... Well, I just do
not very hard, I just don't bother pointing it out anymore because he's toned it down

>Avatar of Slaanesh will face off against the Yncarne and get handily beaten
>Slaanesh will go MIA just like in AoS
The Dark Prince is about to get wholesale squatted. He'll be fully AWOL by the end of the year.

>>52053568
OK "friend", first founding is the creation of the legions therefore there cant a first founding chapter regardless of their origin. In the case of Space Sharks for example they became Space Sharks after they came back to the Imperium in whatever founding so they cant be first founding as they were still Raven Guard/XXth legion when they were separated from the main Raven Guard force.

>>52053616
That's an ugly model. Not an ugly paintjob, just the model itself.

But yeah, it's pretty easy to ID you and other anons, mate.

>>52053618
Pretty much this tho

>>52053633
Cease your autism. I said that the Carcharodons Astra were for all intents and purposes technically first founding due to them not being a part of the RG. They were the Pale Nomads once Corax banished them, then became the Carcharodons Astra once the Heresy ended.

>>52053596
Then please explain to a retard like me how to use statistics, because apparently it's the key to doing well at 40k.

Is it really as simple as taking whatever has the best statistics to do X and praying that they resemble the math?

>>52053655
I'm not gunna lie, some of the battletech models just make me want to vomit. They don't translate well when taken directly from fantasy engineering diagrams straight to model. Despite how much shit geedubs gets from the fans for everything, they have most of us spoiled for sculpt quality.

Most of us here look at the shittier sculpts from geedubs and laugh at their shittyness. But they're still miles ahead of most of their competitors in the same market.

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>>52053709
Quality sculpts only

>>52053709
i wish battletech would try to do new models, it looks like the same stuff they've had since the 80s

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Been looking for a while now. Does anyone have a pdf for Child of Night?

Can't find one anywhere.

>>52053704
That's basically it yeah. 40k is gambling and you always want the best odds.

>>52053734
The one model that needs to be changed in the Nid dex.... Good God.

>>52053655
Being exiled is not a founding and they never ceased to be XXth legion until they became part of whatever founding and changed their names to space sharks.

What HH stuff do CSM and loyalists get? I know SM have Cataphractii and Deredo, while CSM have the two assault claws, and both have Contemptors.

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Dis iz da start of somefink orky!

>>52053829
According to GW, lotalists get everything plastic because of time travel. And chaos get nothing because of retardation.

>>52053472
>>52053273
>>52053340
Raptor anon's autism aside, the problem with the game having an excessive amount of rules spread between dozens of publications, all of which you have to pay for is a real problem with the game and this shit needs to stop.

>>52053890
It wouldn't be so bad if they were cheap.

>>52053734
>tfw the gun is smarter than the user

>>52052353
Hive Fleet Apidae, black with yellow carapace. Renowned for the superb reproductive rate of its Tervigons as well as a marked preference for mass aerial assaults supporting a single ground-based thrust. Suspected splinter of Hive Fleet Kraken, known to be currently rampaging through the unknown xenos of the Ghoul Stars.

>>52053829
Loyalists get literally everything in the Horus Heresy, bar the primarchs. Nearly all of their rules are in either Imperial Armour 2(for Loyalists), and Imperial Armour 13(for traitors). And the loyalists also get stuff from the various .pdfs up on forgeworld's website.

> Contemptors
> Sicarans
> Deimos Predators
> Typhon Heavy Siege Tank
> Fellblade(Only the basic variant)
> Whirlwind Scorpius
> Vindicator Laser Destroyer
> 1 extra land raider variant

And for loyalist only
> Legacies of Glory
> Deredeo
> Leviathan
> Chaplain Dreadnought
> two more land raider variants

Chaos only
> Lol, just Legacies of Ruin
> Everything else is fair game though

The biggest difference between the two is that the loyalists have to deal with something called "Relic of the Armoury". Which is an in-built balancing rule which says you can only have a single "relic vehicle" in your entire army, unless you take an army-specific tax.. Which is a Techmarine(LSM), Rune Priest(SW), Interrogator Chaplain(DA), and Sanguinary Priest(BA).

Personally, in casual games I let the chaos players bring their Leviathan so long as they just follow the rule of "Just limit it to one, unless you also bring a warpsmith"

>>52052353
Scion regiment that is pretty good at air assault raids. The Schola is based on a desert world and thus they work best in desert conditions.

>>52053883
Why are chaos marines retarded though? :^)

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>>52052353
I play Imperial Guard. My dudes are from a prison world that uses penal legions and they are often sent on dangerous missions because they are more expendable.

My fluff is loose, and my commander/prison warden is a count as Straken. He believes every man has his use, even if it's just taking a bullet for a better man. He has heavily augmented his body so he could fight better against the horrors of the universe. He also inspires everyone by punching monstrous creatures and tanks to death. While the prisoners know they are just fodder and meatshields, they frequently get caught up in the moment of the commander's frontline bravado.

I frequently take Straken, Priests, Infantry Squad blobs, Conscript blobs, Bullgryn, Commissars, Psykers, Basilisks, Lemans, Armored Sentinels and Vets with shotguns and carapace. I don't really think everything out, but I like to think that the Vets with shotguns are riot guards, the Armored Sentinels are patrol walkers, the Bullgryn are entrance/exit guards, the Conscripts are prisoners and all the rest is a mix of planetary defense forces, prison guards, normal recruited Guardsmen and sometimes released criminals.

I wish my modeling skills were better, but I just painted Catachans with orange fatigues.

How many radio stations/shows do the forces of Chaos have?

>>52053786
So then at what point does "gambling, but giving yourself the best odds" cross into being a WAACfaggot?

who winson the table top /tg/,

>Abby Vs Guilliman ??

>>52053989
this is a joke question, right

>>52053938
They're too busy trying to force deamons and vehicles to mate to maintain all their old shit. Abaddon forces every heretek to make at least ten autocannons a year however.

>>52053973
The thought of Kharn dropping sick power metal is making me feel funny inside.

>>52053974
When you're doing it at the expense of your opponent.

>>52053973
Just one, its run by an Emperor's Children warband that just blasts eurobeat 24/7

Are the triumvirates just going to be fad units that will be unusable once their respective factions get new codices? Assuming codices are still going to be a thing

Are there any game play reasons to keep Voldus and Cypher even if I don't play Grey Knights or Fallen? I know there is a Triumvirate characters only detachment but they'd probably be too expensive together to be worth it.

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DO NOT TRY TO BLOCK OUT MY CUMMIES
t. Slannesh

>>52054044
Can you fucking imagine Malcador setting up a radio station to oppose the forces of corruption in secret?

The Emperor's right hand man setting up a radio to out-play Chaos' stations?

>>52052239
Always rumembah ta thin ya paints 'n get a nice, fine tip on ya brush!

>>52054071
This person is really hard to look at

>>52053372
Violet eyes are a trait of anybody who lives on Cadia for an extended period of time. Even non-Cadians who live on the world long enough will develop violet eyes over time.

>>52054073
> "Now you've all no doubt heard of some trouble brewing back on ole Fenris, and I ain't sure what the hell is going on, but I know for damn sure that those crazy wolf bastards are giving that trouble one hell of a time. This goes out to you, Emperor bless."
> https://youtu.be/DKgVR2ZdVgg

>>52054000
Why is that fridge wearing clothes?

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My demon prince of slaanesh. Is the gold armor garish enough?

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R8

Feedback appreciated

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>>52054147

Your oviposters turn me on anon

>>52054147
might want to lightly highlight it with some silver

>>52053901
I think the expectation that you buy a book for your army and then the core rules is totally reasonable.

Shit gets crazy when there's 4 expansions for the core rules, dozens and dozens of dataslates (sold separately, or published in individual white dwarf books), armies like AdMech that are split between two codexes with additional shit in a third codex and then random shit for each army scattered throughout things like fall of cadia.

It's utter fucking cancer and it contributes to a game climate where nobody knows what the rules are.

>>52054155
Why use Castellans if nothing is assaulting? You're better off using an IG CAD+ Emperor's Wrath+Librarius Conclave.

>>52054051
>>52054073
>For all you astropaths cruising along those warp current, here's a chill little Imperium take on that shit those Slaaneshi fucks keep blasting your way. Stay strong and groove along.

Fucking https://youtu.be/Uhy_e5wIX44 plays.

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Fiaura the Tank Girl here
fa/tg/irl and Youtube A.M.(A).A.

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>>52054163
Did someone say ovipositors?

>>52051967
So they really did it....they pulled a "darth vader" with Girlyman, he can never leave his armor lol. Lame.

What happened to the "made to order" thingy?

>>52054186
Who says I'm not assaulting? ;)

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>>52054211
Blessed be the Emperor's DJ, so merciful in his groove.

>>52054256

As if any Primarch leaves his armor.

>>52054256
Hey, at least he's not literally decaying-but-still-alive on the universe's most expensive chair.

cant help but feel like the word bearers are the one true loyalist chapter

>>52054185
They haven't handled it particularly well, but the concept of supplemental material isn't a bad one. You can still play with just codex + rulebook just fine after all.

>>52054000
I feel like this is borderline CP.

>>52054300
Except for all the chaos stuff.

>>52054301

I play CSM.

>>52054256
why would you take off your armor if you're constantly at war?

>>52054260
Scraped due to being a waste of time and effort to made old and (mostly) ugly metal mini.

What are the odds we get new Noise Marine sculpts this year?

>>52053989
Guilliman a million times over.

>>52054272
There's something inherently funny about Astropaths incoherently screaming while everyone ignores them.

>>52054313
Which is a problem with your codex, more than the supplemental material.

>>52054309
meh the chaos stuff is merely a non factor

>>52054265

You have no dedicated assault units. Consider putting your regular humans in a large platoon with a Commissar and a couple power weapons.

>>52054324
I thought it sold well?

>>52052185
And mortarion was banished using his true name
That's the bullshit with chaos they way the make out oh massive sacrifice to banish the daemon then some chucklefuck cultist can just summon it next week

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>>52054071
ALL PRAISE THY FLAIRED NOSTRILNESS!

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A long while ago some anon had the idea of making Kill Team rules for the Adeptus Custodes.
Did anything ever come out of that idea?

>>52054328
>New Slaaneshi models
AHAHAHAHAHA

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>>52054000

Cultist-chan... has a penis?

>>52054183
This^. I really like the skin and sword though.

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>>52054222
Is that a man?

>>52054306

I'm pretty sure that EgoQueenAlexis is a grown man, anon.

7th edition is a mess right now and the Gathering Storm is only making it worse.

Going to play AoS, let me know when things get better.

>>52054387
Who the fuck is EgoQueenAlexis? He looks like a little ugly girl.

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>>52054386

What do you think?

>>52054387
That's who that is? Fucking hell what a freak

>>52054402
Ya, probably. Or a tranny. Or both.

>>52054400

EgoQueenAlexis is a (bad) trap crossplayer and self-proclaimed champion of Slaanesh, who gets shitpost every single day in these threads.

>>52054413
Thanks, anon. Adding those terms to my filter list because the last thing I want is more confused traps on my 4chan.

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>Rowboat Girlyman is 350 points.
>Magnus is 650 points.

What did Games Workshop mean by this?

>>52054426
clearly that a stormsurge > rowboat. everyone knows this

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>>52052353
I run a group of World Eaters that are led by a man named Andrax Gorespitter who thinks he was a pre-heresy Captain. Unfortunately for him he is one of the clones the WEs started pumping out midway though the Horus Heresy after the real Andrax died during the Drop Site Massacre, but he's killed anyone who's tried to tell him that. (The clones often ended up with their source materials memories for some reason) The thing that makes him different though is at some point when they were giving him the Nails they fucked up, the effect being that he now feels pleasure both in combat and when planning for combat. Because of this they still use the pre-heresy color scheme as they keep their armor cleaned in between battles. His ability to plan also means that he can actually use tactics in battle, for at least a short period of time.

I call the warband the Butchers of Truth as they both take joy in killing psykers and because they killed everyone on the Shrine World of Truth.

In response to the 13th Black Crusade they've left the eastern Halo Stars where they've been raiding from and have been doing hit and run attacks on Imperial supply depots well burning towards the Eye of Terror in the hope that Angron will appear and lead another Cholercaust level Blood Crusade.

>>52054183
Maybe a little edge highlighting?

>>52054439
Sorry. My bad, I forgot this.

>>52054426
Wait so what is the Emperor going to use when he comes back if Guilliman has his sword?

>>52054362
No 2+ in KT

>>52054426

They mean for you to spend 350 pts on a solo melee character who needs help from Tigurius just to get into charge range of the enemy.

>>52054441
>clones
No

>>52054470
The Emperor's Wang. All you need to know is that it's a D weapon.

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>>52054470
>when the Emperor comes back

You might wanna sit down anon, I have bad news about the Emperor.

>>52054481
I'm sure there's a way to modify the Custodian's rules so that they could be balanced. Unless the Kill Team rules itself are what's the trouble.

>>52054426
That display bothers me.
>stand on top of imperial palace-like structure
>his base has grass, esrth, random torches and a broken aquilla statue on it

>>52054501
>14" range S:D

>>52054508
>when the BBC is just a myth.jpeg

>>52052609
Iron Warriors had more dudes than Word Bearers.

>>52054481
>>52054516
The no 2+ rule is dumb anyway. Terminators aren't even close to being powerful in KT.

>>52054536

It's not terminators that the rule is meant to stop

So I've been out since Saturday and obviously the public sites have no leaks yet.
What do we know so far happens in GS3? Do we already have all character datasheets or just Girlyman?

>>52054545
What other 2+ infantry is it stopping?

>>52054536
Are there any other limits in Kill Team like the no 2+?

>>52054536

I think it's more that KT is meant to be a patrol squad. Shit with a 2+ save isn't usually shit that goes out on patrol.

>>52054552
Riptides are 180pt elites

>>52054529
>had

>>52054555
no more then 3 wounds, no hqs

>>52054556
Riptides are illegal regardless of the 2+ rule. Terminators are also the quintessential kill team, sent into space hulks to clear them out.

>>52054556
Riptides are stopped by the "minimum 4 models" rule already, though.

>>52054556
Even if its 180, dont you need 3 or 4 models for killteam. Im pretty sure you cant have a riptide

>>52054461
either that or a super light drybrush of something like mithril/runefang

I'd love to see a madman actually field a Electro-Priest Kill Team.

It can't not be s glorious shitty mess, right?

>>52054147
Pretty cool, but why no wings?

>>52054594
go for it, i field flamers of tzeentch and bloodcrushers from time to time

Silent King when?

>>52054426
Cypher rules, when?

>>52054573
Doesn't seem too bad, the Custodian's would still be packing some major fire power.
I'm sure that, even if some Fan rules allowed them some lee way with the normal rules, there would be counter stuff to keep the cheese in line. Plus tougher dudes means harder-styled missions with more or even stronger enemies.

>>52054426
So, do we have pictures of the other 2 stooges for this set? Where was this leaked?

>>52054555
there are no HQs in KT
>>52054536
dont understand why that rule is dumb. Especially considering the flow of the game. Really feel like its a move in the right direction. Even if the balance is off for obvious reasons

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>>115584394
Before the Romans backstabbed the Jews (like they had done to all Mediterranean nations before) Judaea and Rome were all buddy buddy and Judaism, even AFTER the fall of the Temple had a special and recognized place in the Roman Empire. The Jews of Rome were said to have wept when Caesar died, "at his pyre they wailed the loudest" that's because he loved the Jews and they him back.

>>52054495
"In the aftermath of the Drop Site Massacre, senior World Eaters Apothecaries in cooperation with the Word Bearers arrived on Bodt, where they established bio-vats to create new warriors at a rapid pace. What resulted were rage-filled monsters of pure aggression. Initiates who survived the process awoke thinking they were a veteran of countless wars." HH Book 6

I wouldn't have done it if it wasn't already canon.

>>52054604
>implying I'd not rather use my Electro-Priest sprue from the Eradication Cohort for conversions
>implying anyone I know even plays Kill Team
I'd be content with a YT BatRep, really.

>>52054620
None of the 2+ save infantry you can take would actually be a problem. All it does is restrict things for no benefit.

>>52053734

I just noticed it literally has testicles on its dick gun. I never realized that before, despite looking at that piece of shit model many times.

Neat

>>52052929

Good choice, anon. Just run the Kakophoni as Blastmaster Noise Marines though.

>>52054625
Nowhere in there does it say they were clones, sounds more like implanting memories of dead legionnaires to speed up the training process.

>>52054625
Those aren't clones anon. Clones are a specially taboo thing in 40k lore, as they have no soul. Those are just vat grown people, which, whilst sounding similar, are not the same, as they're usually fertilized embryos with their growth sped up. Most cherubs and some servitors are made this way.

>>52054642
"Spore sacks" like what an ork has.

>>52054642
>>52053734
I like that model. It's how I envision Tyranids incorporated Ork DNA. They got a Spore Lobber.

>>52054651
I assumed that's what the bio-vats were doing. Although now that I'm looking at it that could be wrong. I suppose that specifics of it are inconsequential as it's the thinking he is who he isn't is the important part.

>>52054650
>Blastmaster

Don't you mean Sonic blasters? The gun is way to stubby to be a Blast Master.

>>52054606
Hopefully never. There should be some mystery left in 40k.
>inb4 we get actual chaos god models

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>>52052353
I am running a Harakoni Warhawk regiment. As there are all Harakoni they all have Carapace, and alot of Air support. Though honestly I can't decide whether to run em as Scions. (Fucking three unit bullshit) Or Elysiums(No hotshots which I modeled all my dudes as having because I love em even if I think they not particularly useful and overcosted)

So I own Some CSM, and I'm still a noob. I own about 45 ish Marines and a Deamon Prince. What should be the next thing I grab?

>>52054657
Now that you mention it, it does look super orky. I wonder if that's on purpose

>>52054674
Depends on your Legion. Rhino's are almost always a good idea though.

>>52054657
Did nids ever get a Tau unit?

I can understand why they never got a Necron one.

>>52054672
Chaos Gods can't enter the physical world, so that won't ever happen.

>>52054674
Look into vehicles, your infantry is squishy and requires support or transportation.

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>>52054689
>TyraTide
BY THE EMPEROR

>>52054701
Wow you are hopeful.
We already know there's going to be an emperor model eventually for 30k at least

>>52054704
I like how this can be said about every single army with access to transports in the entire game right now.

>>52054671

It's too big and Blastmasters (is it one or two words? I thought it was one for some reason) used to be modeled as guitars so I think you should get some leeway. It's heavy bolter sized instead of bolter sized like a sonic blaster.

>>52054615
>there would be counter stuff to keep the cheese in line
that'd be plasma guns

>>52054689
Tau didn't exist when that little theme came about. And even if they did, there's nothing really for the tyranids to gain from using their genetic code.

Humans but weaker and frailer isn't really a good draw card.

>>52054678
Very much so, the original idea was that the units were the xenomorphed versions of the other races via bio traits learned from consuming them.

Space Marines became Tyrant Guard
Eldar became Zoanthropes
Orks became Biovores

I forget if the warriors were supposed to be human or not.

>>52054678
Yeah, I read my old white dwarfs on the toilet and I just recently read the one where Jes Goodwin talks about how the range was supposed to appear to be the Tyranids changing with the newly absorbed DNA from our galaxy. That was Orks, Zoanthropes were Eldar and Tyrant Guard were Space Marines.

>>52054687
I'm rolling custom painted tzeentch. Just pallet swaping for Hastur The Unspeakable. They are basically the same god anyways. Regaurdless I was thinking of grabbing some sort of transport. And I mostly play for fun anyways so anything that looks cool or will result in some lulz is good too.

>>52054715
Emperor is in the physical world, that's why he's a 'living god' and why the Chaos gods are so jelly.

>>52054723
The Tau empire also has Kroot and Vespids and a bunch of other sruff. There'd be plenty to choose from. If GW cared or even remembered those races and wouldn't just give them Tyranid mech suits.

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Hey new player here, which is the most /pol/ approved faction to play?

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After a shit ton of searching, I finally found one of them. Now I'm only missing the other two and a couple of the blood ravens ones and the mk 3 ones.

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>>52054441
Anon, there's quite a few things that seem wrong with this.

>clones
Clones aren't really a thing in 40k. It's one of the ultimate taboos alongside creating AI.
>Khornates stereotypically being unable to think coherently
This is a meme, as this only applies to Khornate Berzerkers. Heck, Bloodletters are surprisingly intelligent, and even make use of trickery and deceit if it means killing someone. The Harvest Daemonkin warband cast themselves as defenders and takers of fortresses. Why come to the enemy when they come to you? After all, Khorne cares not how the blood flows, so long that it does.
>World Eaters caring about anything
Eh.

>>52054758
Tyranids, because /pol/ posters are all vermin.

>>52054652
>>52054651
I understand now and shall edit their history accordingly. Thank you both for pointing that out.

>>52054722
>It's too big

Not at all, if you ignore the extra pipes (which aren't really part of the 'gun' part) they are identical in size. Both are closer to Heavy Bolter than they are to bolter. And design wise are very close.

And I think it's one word, I mix that up all the time.

>>52054729
>the original idea
Biovores and zoanthropes were older units that had their fluff altered, Prior to that they were just generic tyranid bioforms.

>>52054753
kroot are just tyranids lite
vespid don't particularly have any biological advantages we've seen beyond the wings (which tyranids already have)
other tau auxiliaries are basically nonexistent

>>52054674
Well, what do you want to get? Have you written up an army list, or are you just collecting stuff? This is important to know.

>>52054765
kek

>>52054722
Realistically, as long as the two are easily identifiable from one another at a glance, I don't think many people would care.

>>52054782
Kroot have spikey hair quills, I'm sure 'Nids could turn the base structure of those into giant spike tyranid balls of death launchinf needles everywhere.

>>52054802
Kroot have penis and vagoo and never wanna be a-sexual spawwn like nids ok? simple enough?