>God of Time vs God of Fate Who wins?

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>>52020843
Both are fictional and through ignoring them humanity wins

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>>52020843

God of Casuality.

>>52020843
Double Down. Time sends Fate to the ends of the universe where without belief he dies, but Fate makes it certain that time will end and thus it does.

>>52020877
fucking casuals!

>>52020843
Ends in sex

>>52020843
Fate cause fate is the end of time
Time cause time is always delaying fate

Fate, It is inevitable.

>>52020843
God of gods

>>52020990
Unless time can extend itself infinitely and never tires

God of Space
>Can't fucking beat me if I expand the distance between us to infinity

You are all talking about the same thing, except the anon talking about sex.

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>>52020877
Causality really ceases to matter once enough time fuckery becomes involved.

Chronos gets cast out of Mount Olympus by his sons after eating them. Nobody fucking touches the Moirae

>>52020843
>"I'll make time pass real fast so everything will crumble to dust and he will be without fates to control"
>"I'll make something go wrong at some point"
>"We'll call it a draw, shall we?"
>"A draw it is then"

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>>52020843

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Many people think that time is a river. They are wrong. I've proven them wrong.

Many people think that one cannot escape his fate. I've proven them wrong too.

>>52024858
he killed the dahaka tho

>>52020843
God of Time can litterally stop it and make God of Fate useless af

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>>52020843
My players murdered fate in my game. Straight up. Ended it, forever. There is so destiny, no fate, nada. Everyone is free. Of course time is also starting to do some really really fucked up things because of this. So let's just answer it by saying 'win' is a mortal concept too poor to answer such a thing.

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>>52024898
That's exactly my point. He murdered the Guardian of Time himself. He used the Mask to escape his fate of a certain death. He changed the timeline.

>>52021055
>time is space
Is God of Time also God of Space?

>>52020843
God of time, easy. Fate can be resisted, and but time will always win out. Even if we manage to start messing with time, eventually time itself will end in the heatdeath of the universe, and we'll have still lost to it.

>>52024984
NO

TIME IS NOT SPACE
SPACE IS NOT TIME
UST BECAUSE TIME CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT SPACE AND VICE VERSA DOESN'T MEAN THE TWO ARE THE SAME THING

>>52020900
>fucking causals!

>>52024984
Nope.
Why is it that one god gets three dimensions and the other gets one?
I propose that to balance it up, we have a god of time and height and another of length and breadth.

>>52024986
>Fate can be resisted

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>>52025014
Never say never.

>>52025014
The difference between time and fate is that one is a measure of somethings progression, and one is a perceived path.

One will always march forward, regardless of us.

The other only has meaning because of us.

As such, time is more powerful.

>>52025052
Time is gonna laugh at you so hard as it tears its face off to reveal it was Entropy and Time was just a lie you made up.

>>52025061
A rose by any other name.

>>52025052
Except that isn't entirely true, the reason you think time always marches on is because your consciousness travels along with it, time is as unstoppable as height and it's only your perception that dictates otherwise.

>>52025035
Mortals are able to resist neither time, nor fate, though.

Mortality itself renders people susceptible to the whims of time, and ignorance renders people susceptible to the whims of fate.
The knowledge of your fate is just as likely to come by as achieving immortality - meaning, not really likely.

>>52025052
Fate is THE path. Time is only what drives everything forward on the road fate has laid out

>>52025074
What's the point of a path, if one is unable to travel with it to his destination?
What's the point of being able to move forward, if there's neither path, nor destination to travel to?

>>52025071
Pic related

>>52025074
Doesn't that mean, though, that even fate will eventually succumb to time?

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>>52025110
woops. forgot the pic. i has the dumb

>>52025110
It means they both end simultaneously
>>52025090
exactly

>>52025119
That depends on how you define fate. If you believe that everything in the universe, every single molecule, has a pre-determined path, then sure.

But at that point, it becomes absolutely pointless. If literally everything has their predetermined fate and nothing we can do will change that, that makes it so that fate is worth nothing. we know it will happen, sure, but not when, where, or how. We will live our lives regardless.

When everything is special, nothing is. By the same token, if everything has a fate it can't possibly know, it amounts to the same thing as if they did not.

>>52025144
>Determinism 101
Haven't you been 14 yet?

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>>52020843
There is no such thing as victory or loss when matters of fate and time are concerned. Winning and losing are mortal concepts. Humans are victorius. Humans are defeated, Time and fate simply are.

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I always imagined it kinda like this

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>>52025389

>>52020843
everyone must achieve their faith throughout time.
so
God of TIme can stall an
Faith can never win.

>>52025319
All philosophies sound like a 13 year old being edgy if simplified far enough.

Anything sounds dumb if simplified far enough.

That isn't really the point though, is it?

>>52025419
Fate, not Faith.

Are you illiterate?

Fate is a spook

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>>52025431
So is time.
Time is nothing more than a measure of progression and continuity.

>>52025444
If you can measure it, its not a spook.

>>52025444
Time isn't a spook, it objectively exists (at least from human perspective)

>>52025478
There is 33 fate in this thread.

>>52025492
The only reason why humans can perceive the existence of time is due to existence of space.

Time is nothing more than a measure of change of the space. It provides continuity, cause-effect relations and other nifty stuff that makes the universe around us logical.
Remove the space, and suddenly, the concept of time loses all of its meaning.
So, no, time is a spook.

>>52025494
based on what? what measurement are you using? what parameter? how did you determine that?

An arbitrary number isn't a measurement.

>>52025524
Arguments against my numbers are mere spooks.

>>52025518
>measure
>spook
pick one you goblin

>>52025538
You are a spook too

>>52025582
One foot is the length of the foot of an arbitrary monarch that died a long time ago.
One second is an arbitrary number that is based on the time required for a specific atom to oscillate a specific arbitrary amount of cycles.
Do I really need to continue?

Measurements are a spook.

>>52025592
Nothing that isn't a spook itself can prove you right.

Fate does not exist because of quantum mechanics.

There is no true path, only probabilities. Time wins.

>>52025608
True as this may be, they are still capable of doing the job of measuring thing. Arbitrary as they are singularly, when used as a measurement they accomplish their task.

Thus, they are not "Spooks".

>>52025650
> True as this may be, they are still capable of doing the job of measuring thing
And social contract is not capable of doing its job of enforcing rules via ostracism? Does it not accomplish the task of defining what is socially acceptable in the society and what is not? Remember that this what Stirner referred to as a "spook", meaning that it was a construct of human's mind, just like measurements are.

Whenever we talk about measurements, we always compare it with some basic unit that we choose arbitrarily.
There is only one undeniable thing that is not a spook - existence. Existence of an object, existence of a quality, existence of perception - something either exists, or it doesn't. There is no middle ground here, it's binary. Everything else is subjective.

An ordinary question "What time is it?" followed by an ordinary answer "It's half past ten" has so many unspoken arbitrary assumptions - that you are referring to the time since the start of the Earth rotation cycle, that you divide the day into 24 hours - that are implicitly understood simply due to the existence of an unspoken agreement, of a standard, which is ultimately nothing more than a construct, a spook.

>>52025420
There is simply no point in the argument.

>If everything is determined fate is pointless

Well duh. Everything is pointless. Only sapient creatures give reason to things.

>>52020843

God of Fate, of course, if it is destined. Nothing can change fate. Not gods, not men. Fate is absolute and inescapable.

>>52025939
>Not gods, not men.
Is the God of Fate incapable of changing his own fate or the fate of the others?

>>52025919
Its a matter of efficiency. Time can efficiently be measured. Socially acceptable is subjective based on where you are though. Cannibalism is okay in some parts of the world as an example. It cannot by nature be defined because it changes from person to person. Even our perception of time can change, in much the same fashion, but the time itself will always move forward at the same rate.

That said, how many unspoken arbitrary assumptions are there in simply raising your arm? How many hundreds of thousands of things happen in that moment to make that happen? Is your arm a spook now?

This goes back to what was said earlier. If everything is a spook, nothing is, because the term looses meaning.

>>52020843
>God of Matter vs God of Force

Who would win?

>>52026047
force

>>52022149
It stays relevant but the path it takes becomes non-linear from the perspective of the participants.

>>52025939
Fate does not exist


Stop arguing, everyone. Fate does not exist. It is physically impossible to exist and a meaningless construct.

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>>52026047
When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object, the immovable object becomes an unstoppable force while the unstoppable force becomes an immovable object.

Pretty obvious, if you ask me.

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>>52025035
You ain't no lady.

>>52025953

Of course he is. What kind of a god would he be if he didn't abide by the rules he has set?

>>52026130
>What kind of a god would he be if he didn't abide by the rules he has set?
Zeus?

>>52026138

But Greek gods are scumbags and don't count

>>52026157
See? That's the Hellenic Pantheon way.

>>52024949
Desire to know more intensifies. What the hell is time up to?

>>52020843
What's the conflict? Time is pretty passive of an element unless you're doing something screwy, or include fate in its portfolio. Maybe the god of time wants to harness time travel, but fate won't budge on his predestinations? I suppose he could try to break fate by introducing microparadoxes into the time stream. Then you can introduce the players to either strengthen them or resolve them depend on who recruited them.

>>52025006
Time is more than one dimension too, in fact depending on how you see the flow of time, the god of time has infinite dimensions.

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God of explosions

>>52020843

Fate. Time can't even catch up with Speedsters, but no-one can escape Fate.

>>52026078
>It is physically impossible to exist
>muh quantum
Yeah, that's not how that works

>>52020843
Chaos, obviously.

>>52021561
He got dubs though

>>52025061
The gods of chaos
Heil tzeench

Neither fate or time are real, lmao