ITT post anatomically realistic/correct fantasy races

>>51999638
Those wings couldn't flap.

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>>51999638

>>51999653
They're also way too small.

>>51999653

Not in anything resembling earth gravity, at any rate.

It's weird how even people who've studied anatomy fail to realize just how fucking huge flight muscles are, they're often half the volume of the animal's torso.

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>>51999653
>>51999669
There's probably more muscle-mass there that isn't apparent in the sketch. Likely, the flight-muscles would be quite large, and would anchor to a bony structure where the sternum is/would be.

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>>51999699
Here's a good example of what I mean

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Would a lamia really need a lung that large?

>>51999657
Mostly that's actually great, but I question how likely it is that the eyes would evolve on stalks like that. It just seems like an invitation for them to get torn off by predators.

>>52000069
Those eyes look like they're augments, not natural.

>>51999899
Maybe they are all great opera singers, it's just that no adventurer has ever given then chance to prove it?

>>52000069
Or they retract into the head

>>51999657

What even is that? Those slaver tick people from 3.5?

>>51999899
Short answer: Yes

Long answer: More body mass needs more oxygen, so yes.

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>>51999899
>In that one DVD extra short where Centorea stomps on Miia's tail, she was actually stomping on her uterus and ovaries
How horrible

>>51999899
Why would a lamia need two hearts and three lungs? Wouldn't it be simpler to have the "human" part be just a curiously shaped anterior part of the body that internally still has the snake anatomy?

>>52001471
Well, if the species had a more magical than natural origin (I.E. a wizard/the gods put a chick and a snake together), then it's probably just an evolutionary leftover that made more sense to keep than to get rid of.

>>51999699
iirc, even with hollow bones a winged humanoid around average human size would need something like a 35 foot wingspan and a 4 foot sternum to anchor the flight muscles.

>>52001935
And Giants would cook their organs from the inside and collapse under their own weight, and other boring unfun stuff.

Whenever I run fantasy, I like assuming that the square-cubed law isn't a thing. Makes things better.

>>52001935
The recent estimates of azhdarchid pterosaur proportions place their wingspan at 33–36 ft and their mass at 440–550 lbs. Based on this, a winged humanoid weighting 1/3 of that and with similar wing shape would have a wingspan around 20 ft.
I can't say anything about the sternum.

>>51999753
I wonder what the reasoning behind that ribcage is. On the topic of winged humanoids, are there any other depictions of how a "correct" muscle structure would look on an individual?

Here are other images from the same source, The Resurectionist.
http://zeroodd.tumblr.com/post/65860144704/so-i-was-on-my-way-home-from-work-when-i-stumbled

>>52000709
There is a reason it's an eroge zone for her

>>52000069
Mother fucker, have you never seen crabs? Lobsters? Shrimp? Slugs? Snails?

>>51999638
>image says harpy
>clearly an angel: has arms like a human plus wings emerging from the back

Nah

>>52001471
Considering the raw mass of the critter in question, a human sized heart is not enough to keep that much blood flowing.

Unless the heart was just weirdly large.

I am, however, concerned about that massive looking posterior lung. If for some reason you were to squeeze that, it would force a hefty jet of air out through that reeeeally small trachea.

probably.
i'm not an anatomatician

Would having only two wings and somehow stick hands and thumbs into them make more sense?

>>52002841
Of course a human-sized heart would be insufficient. I was talking about a single heart sized for a snake of comparable length to the full length of the lamia (together with the human part).

Regarding the posterior lung, presumably the snake part ribs would protect from such an eventuality.

>>52002915
Why not just have dozens of small wings all over the entire organism?

Instead of feathers, whole wings.

All flapping at once.

This would likely not work at all.

>>51999638
>post anatomically realistic/correct fantasy races
Why?

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>>52000266
http://abiogenisis.deviantart.com

Git comfy, you'll be browsing his stuff for a while.

>>52002992
>http://abiogenisis.deviantart.com
Holy shit. I know that guy!
Got into a huge political discussion with him on FB. Guy is a masive leftist.

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>>51999638
>For my transgression, I earned a new kind of reward
>Agony

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>>51999657
I fucking love Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials.

>>52003058
I could have told you that. After Trump won he had a fucking 'tism tantrum on his profile.

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>>51999638

>>52002841
With a poison sack, would allow for a serious spray of poison.

And the OP angel have 3 sets of limbs such as a dragon (instead of a true harpy, more akin to a wyvern). What other kind of animal would develop from an early 6 limb ancestor? Aurunvorax? Displacer beasts?

>tfw can't find anatomical diagrams of kobolds

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>>51999699

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>>52006938
I like this person's interpretation of centaur anatomy.

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>>51999638
But that's clearly the bone structure of Morrigan's wings, not a harpy's.

>>52004135
I always wanted to join the SFBC because they always advertised it as one of the books you could get for, like, a quarter when I was a kid.

>>51999657
I've always loved the design of this thing, but it's not going to become an intelligent species. It has no manipulators. You can't have an ungulate become sapient without the hooves turning into manipulators. I can't buy them as smart, only as pack animals that are "clothed" and given burdens by their masters.

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>>52008965
>It has no manipulators
You see those two folded up limbs on the front, lifted off the ground? Those are the arms.

>>52009033
He never shows them very well. I guess I have trouble accepting three fingers (on arms that can't even reach some places on the body) in that shape are sufficient.

I wonder how a race that could fly would would function in terms of architecture, roads, warfare etc.

assuming they flew "realistically" as in minimum 60 foot wingspans, needing the proper wind conditions and room to take off.

>>52009033
That gun looks like it has a terrible ergonomic for that bug.

>>52001935
This is why hang gliders are so big.

Maybe this thread should be 'fantasy creatures with arbitrary justification for the fantasy bits'.

>>52002740
>He likes harpies armless
Go back to your anime, son.

>>52009074
>on arms that can't even reach some places on the body

pot, meet kettle.

>>52009921
>he doesn't like his harpies magically changing their arms into wings and vice versa

>>52010862
Can...

Can normal people not touch every part of their body with their hands?

>>52010998
Try to touch every inch of your back

>>52011024
Okay I've checked and I can absolutely do it this, fingertips pad down and everything.

Freak of nature confirmed?

>>52011068
I think that anon just needs to stretch more.

>>52011417
I mean I really don't know, I'm skinny with big hands and long arms, I've just never considered the problem beyond scratching itches.

Oh my God is this why back-scratchers exist?

>>52011436
You are now imagining small insects burrowing into the flesh of the middle of your back where you can't reach.

Manually.

>>52011539
>the middle of your back where you can't reach.

There is no such area for me, I've got a hand above and below touching fingers. There's not place I can't go, I'm willing to accept this is not normal but this is my situation.

>>52000069
Eye stalks gave a greater field of vision, allowing predators to be spotted easier and so the ones that had better vision and more flexible eye stalks were the ones breeding.

Alternatively, there is no predators for it to fear so more wasteful and extravagant adaptations.

Or even something like a Peacock.
Peacock tails are thought to exist as to advertise how succesful the male is Despite having a massive handicap in the form of a tail that weighs almost as much as itself.

>>52011608
That's actually a 'normal' range of flexability for a human.

>>52002298
News flash: The uterus and the ovaries are not an erogenous zone.

>>52011700
Which one? The ability or the lack thereof?

>>52010984
>he doesn't like getting hugged by both arms and wings at once

>>52011729
>implying

>>52011856
>his harpies aren't barely sapient horrors of the night
Go back to your anime, son.

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>>52011946
It's time for you to go back to reddt baka.

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>>52012034

>>51999699
>all those ribs
>not protecting the stomach
How?

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>>51999657
They are absolutly my favourite 'hard' depiction of aliens.

>>52011417
Nah, you just had a run-in with a trex on a keyboard

>>52011436
>Oh my God is this why back-scratchers exist?
Yes, you double-jointed freak, that IS why back-scratchers exist. Most people cannot reach all of their back.

I can just about reach. I'll try properly when my shoulders aren't stiff from motorcycling.
My spine's flexible enough to get one hand to reach just about everywhere, though.

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>>52002740
I know, right. Don't you just hate it when people can't keep their facts straight?

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>>52003058
>massive leftist
how does that matter in any way aside from attempting to derail the thread?

>>52012991
something something "cucks" something something tribalism

>>52007138
>heart that low

This horse woman'll never make it as a jet pilot!

>>52012963
>no way of steering
Would small butt wings permit steering?

>>52013644
pitch control by constant farting.

>>52003133
CAST HIM IN

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>>52012991
>>52013018

>anon makes offhanded comment about artist who's being discussed in the thread
>a different anon gets butthurt and accuses him of trying to derail discussion
>a third anon accuses him of being a tribalist for basically saying "I disagree with his worldview"

Pure poetry. Enjoy this crustacean with an AK74u, friends.

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>>52016381
Shit, you're right, sorry my guy

>>52016381
>Is so offended by his worldview he not only brings it up without provocation in an unrelated thread but also posts >>52004233 to bash it
>"I'm just disagreeing with his worldview"
>"You're the derailer, not me"
>"Stop being offended by my thread derailing"
You can't have it evey way at once.

>>52016381
>>52016784
Stop derailing the thread! /s

>>51999657
Fun fact, this alien is a drug dealer
They sell those stick-things on their head, and those wires on their eyestalks are a retro form of communication (ie, a flip-phone)
Or maybe it's that thing on their leg, I can't remember

>>52011024

Is it not normal to be able to grab your opposite shoulder behind your back?

>>51999899
>her vagina is halfway down her body
HOW ABOUT NO

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>>51999657
I always love it when humankind is in a federation with a total different alien species.
The Humanx Commonwealth for example

>>52016705
That is terrifyingly hideous. I always saw Puppeteers with smoother lines and more herbivore-ish 'heads' that are a cross between a snake and a cow, with added comedy lips.
And that rear leg is nowhere near powerful enough, and lacks the pointed hoof for kicking.
Also, that 80s sci-fi haircut/mane is awful. Nowhere near enough decoration.

>>52013644
No, calf wings>>52004373

>>52000128
This is why I come here.

>>52000384
You would think that such a creature would have a hard time breathing (among all the other problems) without sounding like a massive pumping bellows. That kind of volume to be exchanged through such a long and narrow apparatus?

>>52011436
Lick the end of your own elbow, and no, not the inside of it.

>>52016381
Why is that thing covered in nasty pubes?

>>52016705
Huh, very interesting, I always thought of them as two headed, three legged, cyclops ostriches.

>>51999638
You start.

>>51999899
Nope.

>>52011539
I can you cunt. I can scratch the entirety of my back. Maybe lose some pounds before spouting armchair biology cunt.

>>52020865
Probably sensory hairs, if I had to guess.

>>52020747

I've never been able to do that, so I get other people to do it for me.

>>52023174
You may lick you friends, and you may lick your elbows, but you don't lick you friend's elbows.

>>52001723
That is general idea. It's easier to capture human females and with designated breeders you should have steady suply of speciment. Then it's just a question of time mashin various bits together, till you manage to produce working monmusu chimeras.

>>52000384
But you can also use smaller animal and gut redundant organs to lower bodymass without adding more to fix the ratio. Also spooder/snek are more fond of sneak attacks anyway. If you are looking for tower guards they would perform excelently but as regular troops would seriously lack and not just in endurance.

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>inb4 remove Qu

>>52016972
I'm positive there is an eroge for that.

>>52011436
I'm fat (86kg for 172cm) and not especially long limbed but I can easily touch my own back from top to bottom without problems

>>52017135
Is that creature's brain in the back? Wew

>>52024943
HUMANITY STRONG
REMOVE QU

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>>52012034
>future fossils
Oh fuck me, it's a bat.

>>52004496
Griffons, sphynx, manticores, pegasuses, some basilisks.
Possibly even hydras, chimeras and cerberuses (where the extra heads are just limbs adapted to look like heads for some purpose)

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>>52012034
>>52012041
Might as well post couple more of them.

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>>52028234

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>>52028251

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>>52028269

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>>52028294

>>52025285
Yeah it's 'head' is actually a proboscis like elephant's trunk.

Alternatively, they're measuring its butt thoughts.

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>>52012034
bat
>>52012041
sloth
>>52028234
whale
>>52028251
hippo
>>52028269
platypus?
>>52028294
anteater
>>52028372
frog?

>>52028666
Im pretty sure that's the point - this book is by Darren Naish (I think), a zoologist, and the suggestion that he is making is that our own interpretations of fossils could well be wrong.

He did another good book called "All Yesterdays", which posits some really interesting behaviours for dinosaurs, based on weird adaptations in modern animals.

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>>52028666
Some kind of ray actually.