/hhg/ aka Horus Heresy General

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first for best primarch and best legion

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First for the Omnissiah's servants, bitch down you numbered mistakes.

>>51998409
Curses :)
Ah well, lost to second best mistake.

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When's the coventry forge world exhibition? Do they do discounts on models?

>>51998409
I don't get why those models are constantly held up as the pinnacle of FW's mechanicum design. The bodies are good, and the guns are good, but they go together like a kitbash, like someone just stuck heavy weapons on the side of a model not designed for it.

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Some number for angriest waifus

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Hey Anons,

Thus far in the process, changed it up a little bit.

Primed Black
Base Coat Magnus the Red Warplock bronze
wash with nihalak oxide
Dry brush Magnus the Red Warplock Bronze
Dry Brush Sycorax Bronze
lightly wash with nuln oil

I didn't expect the nuln oil to bring out the purple hues in the Magnus the Red Warplock Bronze.

Am pleasantly surprised.

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>>51998402
My nigga

>>51998490
Interesting effect. Iron Hands?

For the DG guy looking for a fancy name

Ferryman

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>>51998422
Then who is best mistake?
>>51998484
>like someone just stuck heavy weapons on the side of a model not designed for it.
Maybe, but that's how people look at Myrmidons in the setting
>Silly priest, those halves don't go together
>I'M A DAKKAMANCER REEEEEEEE
>>51998488
Why are they so perfect?

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DG Destroyer WIP. Im hoping to get all 5 done, and a DG Leviathan basecoated by the end of the weekend.

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Bracing for VI Legion fluff

So I'm using this guide:
http://tabletopstandard.com/2014/01/16/how-to-paint-luna-wolves/
And it seems to be coming out fine considering my ham hands. However, it is EXTREMELY TIME CONSUMING. I am still on the first model. Is there a more efficient way of going about this? Bonus if it looks better.

>>51998490
Does plasteel or ceramite even oxidise, nerver mind change to verdigris? I doubt there's much copper in a material harder than titanium.

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Lol, they actually acknowledged their typos

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>>51998378
>14
A fine choice in Legion and Primarch!

The ZM Legion, Toxins and Terminators, suitably grimdark tragedy for the Primarch, some important and interesting Captains, Horus's most reliable lieutenant Primarch, decent but not OP as fuck, etc.

>>51998589
Doesn't have to be normal oxidization. Could be a reaction to some chemical weapon that had been used by either side while on campaign.

>>51998604
Do we really need more DG players?

>>51998589
Maybe it doesn't oxidise per se, but it does deteriorate when exposed to all the chemicals present in the galaxy.
We do have confirmation the Destroyer's munitions darken and corrode their plate, so they just paint it black.

>>51998623
I don't know, next to NL players, they seem to be really productive in getting models done.

>>51998633
Thats because that one guy does both NL and DG

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>>51998559
Black shields, here is a comparison between a model that has made it to step 4 vs 6.

The force is being fluffed as 2nd generation Thunder Warriors, a new breed made from Arik's geneseed developments, most closely related to World Eaters in terms of gene siring.

>>51998572
Ferrus is best mistake, did his job, didn't show off about it and made cool shit for the other ones to make them less useless.

>>51998484

They're nice, I just wish they were sold with all 1 weapon. They take well to weapon swaps, though, so you can give them grav easily enough.
The whole point is these are the Magos Dakkarius, they're just guns on very stylish legs.

>>51998600
Kek, I guess I'll forgive that one.
Now on to redeem the fucking HH books...

Reposting in hopes of guidance.

Sons of Horus using Long March RoW, 2440 points total

HQ
Praetor- Cataphractii termi, paragon blade, digital lasers (175)
Legion Primus Medicae- cataphractii FW one (130)

Elites
Contemptor Dreadnought - 2 Kheres Assault cannons (200)
Rapier Laser Destroy(3) -(165)
Rapier Laser Destroy(3) -(165)

Troops
Tactical Marines(10)- artificer armor, combi-plas, meltabombs, nuncio-vox, rhino (200)
Tactical Marines(10)- artificer armor, combi-plas, meltabombs, nuncio-vox, rhino (200)
Cataphractii Terminators(5)- combi-plas x5, LCx5, grenade harness (235)
Tartarous Terminators(5)- combi-plas x5, LCx5 (225)

Heavy Support
Heavy Support Squad(5)- Autocannonx5 (160)
Heavy Support Squad(5)- Autocannonx5 (160)
Leviathan Dreadnought- Armored Ceramite, Phosphex, Siege Claw, Melta Lance (325)
Dreadnought Drop Pod(100)

-Going to get more Cataphractii Terminators soon or get Justaerian and drop the Cataphractii completely.
-have 20 more marines unbuilt

>>51998589
In my mind, its supposed to emphasize lesser materials being used in the construction of the power armor.

Perhaps it isn't ceramite, but an alloy that has been cut with weaker minerals that can in fact, oxidize.

>>51998600
Hey look, Bangels can take SSs now.

>>51998684
>ss and asscannon termies

Please FW, make this a thing.

>>51998679
I doubt MarkIII would get made with anything but plasteel since it was produced in teh great crusade era. Maybe if it were some post-heresy mark.

>>51998575
The thicc is gud.
The thinn is evil.

>>51998677
I may have responded too late in the other thread - I lamented that your characters weren't in Tartaros, but model availability is the problem there. Get as many turn 1 pods as you can for that RoW.

>>51998572
This is going to sound dumb and autistic, but based on the description of the Kharon, >>51988127, it should be black and/or shiny.

Also you will either not see it coming, or you'll be fearful of it.

>>51998713
MKIII's production process was strapping additional plates to MKII power armor.

The premise of MKIII was to provide a solution to the MKII's difficult to replace layered plating while increasing the armors viability in Zone Mortalis engagements.

In my mind, if you have the base power armor, strapping additional plating to it and creating MkIII armor seems more tenable than producing MKII armor.

Really, despite MKIV being produced as a ramshackle of different MK's, MKIII would probably be easiest to produce as a byproduct of the minimal differences between MKIII and MKII.

>>51998575
"where we're going we don't need faces"

>>51998713
Ablative armour doesn't need to be of such high standard.

>>51998695
>any IF model that can take a Heavy Flamer may exchange it for a storm shield for +10 points, a predator may exchange it's cannon for a twin-linked storm shield
Please.

>>51998743
A big black Kharon, huh.

>>51998581
If you want faster AND better, your best option is to eat the brains of an MKA member and learn their secrets. They seem to have some clever airbrush-dependent technique that's relatively quick but also faster than brush painting. Probably based on zenithal highlighting but they pull it off really well.

With a brush, no, you're screwed. Especially with white. One option is to do a very dark wash over the gray primer and then spray almost-white over it. The wash will show through as pre-shading. Or just start with almost-white, wash, then highlight once. Won't look as good but it'll be faster. Basically the Duncan way - look up how to paint WE or WS on the Warhammer TV Youtube channel.

>>51998778
>twin-linked storm shield
3++ rerollable predators? I'll only allow that if you literally make the hull out of shields. Ogryn shield plates, smaller Custodes ones for the diagonal panelling, etc.

Now I want someone to photoshop that.

>>51998752
That does operate under the assumption that the force began with MKII power armor. In my case, blackshields logistics is tricky, somewhere between fixing their gene cancer and making it offworld, they obtained 150-400 suits of MKII power armor for their equivalent force.

Assuming geneseed cultivation takes somewhere between 2-4 standard months and beginning with four functioning Thunder Warrior Gene Seeds (optimistic), obtaining 256 suits of MKII over the course of sixteen months isn't too unreasonable.

>>51998832
Sixteen months would be the amount of time it would take (Assuming cultivation periods are accurate) for the gene seed to replicate a total of 256 times. With rapid implantation and pyscho indoctrination astartes where being churned out in about nine months after initial implantation?

We are looking at 25 months to create a force of 256 Thunder warriors. Nice! Logistically viable, assuming there weren't too many hick ups in resource acquisition.

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So, Girlyman has changed in the last few millenia.

>>51998832
>Assuming geneseed cultivation takes somewhere between 2-4 standard months
Where's that from?

>>51998726
Mix of model restrictions and I like the look of cataphratcii armor. For the apothecary model, I just have the one GW stores were selling for a while. Dreadclaw or vanilla pods?

>>51998888
Arik talks about cultivation time during Outcast dead, (I think) Fabius Bile does as well during the Fulgrim Horus Heresy novels.

Also, within the Space Marine Codex they go over the entire process of space marine production, it also gets covered in some of the Horus Heresy source material, the Iron Warriors fluff talks about implantation and geneseed cultivation as well.

>>51998831

Shield bits are cheap enough to do that. Hell, I'm tempted to do that and just grab a cheap predator off ebay and go at it.

>>51998881
I don't see Eternal Warrior in there anywhere

>>51998919
I'm pretty sure cultivation is the process of turning a mature, harvested progenoid into the 19 implants that will be put into a new marine. Not the act of maturing a progenoid to make a new progenoid. Otherwise, what is the 5 and 10 year progenoid maturation process?

>>51998956
Or fearless.

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>>51998581
That's a stupid recipe. Pallid wych flesh is a terrible paint. One of the very worst GW made.

Just get primer white, a thinned coat of Ulthuan grey, and then use wash of choice, sepia, black or brown.

This WS is white primer, uthuan grey, AP sepia soft tone wash, then cleanup with Ulthuan grey.

>>51998956
Probably because he comes back to life on a 4+.

>>51998881
>most vanilla primarch
>stats are just 6s across the board
Good work design team.

Also, I guess it's kind of interesting to see what Emps's sword does in 40k, although it'll almost certainly have different rules in 30k if custards and sisters are any indication.

>>51998957
Those additional implants are independent of the Geneseed. The Geneseed is required to orchestrate the overall change from regular human to Astartes.

That is why you can't just implant a human with all the different implants and have a space marine, without the geneseed the implants would kill the implantee.

>>51998881
>Armor of Fate

TZEEEEEEEEEENTCH!

>>51998904
Vanilla pods can’t carry Terminators. I was thinking Dreadclaws for units of 5, but your characters+squad will need a Kharybdis. If you take one each, you’ll have three pods (including the Leviathan’s) so you’ll get two on turn 1.

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>>51998881

>>51999016
While you are correct, you're using words badly.
It would be 'regulate' rather than orchestrate, and geneseed is not a word that is interchangeable with progenoid glands in all phrases, which you would have been better off using.

>>51998956
>>51998979
They didn't show his generic special rules, but it's assumed to be the same as 30k primarchs.

>>51999016
That's...not at all true though. A mature progenoid is broken open and the inside of it (ie. the geneseed) is used to grow all 19 implants from the progenoid. They are not independent. And in fact the progenoid is the second to last implant, meaning a recruit spends approximately six years without its supposed regulatory capability.

>>51998987
What's wrong with pallid wych flesh? I need some (or something like it) so I was going to get a pot of it this weekend.

>>51999056
I agree.

>>51999120
I honestly don't have any recollection of that particular fluff. Do you have a source?

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>>51998881
With the Ultimate Sword of choppiness, why would he even want the Hand of Dominion for?
>>51998956
>>51998979
It's probably somewhere over there. But he could still be brought to T2 using Enfeeble, the Thurible and rad grenades & furnace.
But srsly he's such OP shit, it's like all the Tau condensed in a single blue guy.
>>51999023
I guess that explains why he looks like a fucking TS.

>>51999045
>our dream
>literally built an empire by conquering everyone and enslaving those that resisted

Fuck you Guilliman.

>>51999191
The classic Creation of a Space Marine article. There are 20 zygotes inside a mature progenoid. These are the seeds for the 18 implants, plus 2 progenoids. But to go from those zygotes to implantable organs takes a few months of lab growth.

>>51999237
>With the Ultimate Sword of choppiness, why would he even want the Hand of Dominion for?

For all those turns he can't be in melee.

>>51999237
He's Scoria 2.0, except worse. He is a Monstrous Creature with mediocre shooty and a bubble of 12" buffs that force the army to slog with him or lose "Value". He's a distraction Carnifex, really. Doesn't matter how many rules he has on that sword if he never swings it at anything but a Conscript or a Skitarii Vanguard. He can do an AoE hit, but even then he'll struggle with big enough tarpits as he can't join units.

>>51999237
>why would he even want the Hand of Dominion for?
Backhanding fools, pimp slapping, brofisting etc.

>>51999237
>But srsly he's such OP shit, it's like all the Tau condensed in a single blue guy.

How's he going to avoid getting shot if he can't use a transport or use Look Out Sir?

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>>51999276
As in, the actual power fist rather than the underslung bolt weapon. The sword is S10 AP1 Armourbane and with situational D
>>51999045
Guilliman: Horus sent us to hell - but we're going even deeper - take back everything that we've lost!
Sanguinor: Bob... I'm already a daemon...

>>51999237
>With the Ultimate Sword of choppiness, why would he even want the Hand of Dominion for?
Consider that is says they are used together in one profile.

>>51999276
>>51999360
>>51999237
Sword and Fist are combined into a single weapon profile for pimpslapping daemons back to the warp.

>>51999045
I'm just realizing how fucking HUGE Belisarius is.

>>51999360
Punished Guilliman shop when?

>>51999401
Can't do it right now, I'm still at work.
Besides, what would the shop be? At best I can adapt quotes and grimdark songwrite

>>51999428
eyepatch, scars and shrapnel 'horn' I suppose

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>>51999464
Ooh right. Yeah, I did Alpharius', leave it to me.

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>>51999164
it is a little too transparent so it's slightly chalky, but you just need to be patient with it. Pic related is Celestra Grey, probably the best white base around, with nuln wash and then one coat of pallid wytch and a white scar highlight.

>>51999563
It's a shame you can't make out the effects of that paint combination because the highlights on your picture are more blown the fuck out than the Space Wolves at Yarant.

>>51999563
What's that red? I've been experimenting with trying a metallic red based on the "metallic gold plus artificer tint" method, but I can't seem to get it right.

>we joked about Sanguinius getting D in melee
>Guilliman actually gets that rule

>>51999664
In case anyone needs photography-speak translated, "blown out" means the photo's overexposed so a range of bright areas have all hit the film/sensor's brightness limit and show up as pure white.

>>51999697
Sanguinius is going to be broken. Calling it now.

>>51999674
Just Mephiston red with a evil sunz highlight, personally I find metallic schemes are distasteful especially for the sons. Egyptians didn't paint in candy red either, they used ochre and othe iron oxides which have that striking blood red.

>>51999717
Well, he is every time you try to transport him. Dem resin wings man.

>>51999745
>Dem resin wings man

They should just make him a hybrid metal/resin kit and cast the wings in metal.

>>51998575
>Where will you be when the Phosphex hits?

>>51999745
Speaking from experience with Corax: You'll want a specifically cut foam carrier (I made mine using a hotwire)

>>51999376

Where are the rules for him?

>>51999246
Fuck you, xenos scum

>>51999674
Don't do that method, it's irregular and costs too much, esp if you have vehicles etc to do.
Just do clear red over gold (not silver like that other guy was saying earlier) if you want the superior shiny TS red.

>>51999387
Isn't he supposed to be ancient, like he might have been around during the heresy (though obviously a much smaller and more junior magos)

>>51999982
>Just do clear red over gold (not silver like that other guy was saying earlier) if you want the superior shiny TS red.
Unfortunately, I don't have an airbrush, and I wouldn't have a good place to use it in even if I did.

>>52000031
You don't need an airbrush, airbrush just makes it simple.

>>51999890
see >>51998881

>>52000031
>Unfortunately, I don't have an airbrush, and I wouldn't have a good place to use it in even if I did.

I use hand brushed Vallejo Transparent Red thinned with Vallejo Glaze medium for my Word Bearers. It doesn't have the same candy red finish as Tamiya clear red but a coat of varnish may help with that.

>>51998881
>Lord Commander of the Imperium

I guess this means he's not becoming Emperor 2.0?
Thats a relief.

>>51998378
>THEY AREN'T LONG FOR THIS WORLD

Nooo... all my hard work!

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>>52000088
>>52000031
>>52000047
Tamiya clear red works fine as, I think. You need to use gloss shading. Pic related shows at least one mini in every step of the process as I can't work on one unit to completion at a time apparently.

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>>51998575

>>52000268
It is a dark night in the hive when this man offers his deal.
You have your phospex on you, do you accept?

>>52000268
Hang on, shouldn't the second panel say "you got sum phospex"?

>>51999697
Indeed. Don't you hate when GW is run by :^)s? Meanwhile, Book 7's rules look as if made by WAACfags, probably the ones who brought you Scoria.

>>52000133
Is thoroughly appreciated, brother. Yet, your Iron Vigil is over now.

>>52000311
>>52000353
He wants money and is offering you his phosphex and oral services in exchange.

>>52000398
Now I know how the Thunder Warriors felt...

Are there any differences between the plastic and resin cataphractii?

I'm mostly wondering for the purpose of having different leg poses.

>>52000426
But you know that those photos are temporary and ScanAnon will give us high quality scans.
Still thank you for giving us hope in dark times.

>>52000412
What would a marine want with money? Also, shouldn't he be busy with killing every person on the planet one by one?

>>51998402
Golden hawk boy!

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>>52000023
Of course, I'm just saying he's bigger than I expected. Guilliman's scale fools me, since he's sitting a bit in the back and has a tiny kopinsky head.
Belisarius' head looks (is?) bigger than Roboute's, so he looks as if he was just shy of 3 meters tall even when hunched, as opposed to Guilliman's 2.4m/8ft

And I like my Magi as big as my Sisters looking pissed off.

>>52000426
>given a 1000 qts from across the Imperium every day in appeasement

you d-do?

>>52000484
>What would a marine want with money?

I dunno. Buy more phosphex?

>>52000111
He is the highest ranked person in the whole Imperium, though, responding only to a man who has no vocal chords and must scream.
He'd simply be reinstalled as a High Lord of Terra and REFORM THE FUCK of the imperium

>>52000549
Didn't he refuse the position of High Lord shortly after the Scouring?

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>>52000586
No. He was a High Lord for awhile. When he was interred, they even left his position among the High Lords and just called its occupant "The Lord Guilliman." The position would be gone by the time of The Beheading.

>>52000630
Only if allied with Death Guard.

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>>52000586
Yes, that's why I said reinstalled. Or reinstated, whichever is more correct.
Only this time he'd keep the seat and get shit done, as he now realizes regular mortals cannot be trusted to run the Imperium as a whole.
He'll probably also scold Valdor for allowing this to happen.

I just realized Guilliman will the the Emperor's Warp to Speech device. Holy shit.

>>52000426
>tfw when you conquer Terra for him and the big E just replaces you with the Dark Angels

>>52000725
Warmaster Guilliman is more likely imo.

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>>51998881
>No EW

Bend over Guilli-boy Im going in dry.

>>52000725
I wonder how he'll react when he finds out that nobody avenged him after he got his throat slit. I mean, that'd been a piece of news it'd be nice to wake up to after ten thousand years.

>>52000783
Is that title still in use? I'd have figured they would have done away with it after how Horus kinda tarnished it.

>>52000800
>i5

Sorry, won't happen.

>>52000031
>I wouldn't have a good place to use it in even if I did.
Literally anywhere. Just use a cardboard box for overspray.

>>52000725
>as he now realizes regular mortals cannot be trusted to run the Imperium as a whole.
>Emperor and Primarchs run the Imperium for 200 years
>Literally burn everything to the ground
>Humans run the Imperium for 10k years
>Still here, still running
Guilliman should know when he's been licked.

>>52000503
Yeah, Cawl is enormous - note the size of the marine next to him here.
I haven't seen him next to Guilliman's model, what with that not being out, but there's a LOT of magos there - he's been tinkering with himself for about 10000 years, after all.

Am I going to regret asking why the Emissary of the Ynead is at G-man's crowning?

I presume it's the eldar trying to plot things and also get on the good side of someone they know can actually plan assaults on craftworlds that succeed?

>>52000817
>Is that title still in use?

Yes it is, though its not very favored due to the implications of the Horus Heresy so they also use Lord Solar as an alternative to the same rank.

>>52000817
If I'm not mistaken, the title warmaster ended up being changed to Lord Solar or something of the sort, they did try removing that title though

>>52000817
Still in use, granted only by the High Lords. The equivalent rank of Lord Solar sees more use as it's associated with Macharius rather than Horus.

>>52000828
If swagismund gets the charge he gets +1I.

>>52000839
>Am I going to regret asking why the Emissary of the Ynead is at G-man's crowning?
Ynead necromancy got us the Gorillaman.

>>52000800
Those are just his unique rules.
Apparently at some point during the stream they confirmed he has EW.

>>52000800
Against T6?

>>52000840
This. I remember Macharius' official title was Warmaster, but everybody called him Lord Solar because Horus ruined the title for everyone.

Especially for Guilliman, whom wanted it in the first place. Now he won't take it.

He'll be just Guilliman, Lord Commander of the Imperium

>>52000839
Eldar are now pretty much fully allied to the Imperium now.
Forces of Order vs Forces of Chaos, kinda reminds you of something doesn't it?

>>52000817
Yeah, though it's bestowed by the administratum and the High Lords for IG use, rather than full and total command like Horus had - though it's still for leading massive crusades - and sometimes they use "Lord Solar", because the title isn't well-liked.

>>52000677
Why?

>>52000911
Hey, at least Slaanesh has yet to go AWOL.

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>>52000839
pic

>>52000885
Not Admech necromancy?
Or do you need multiple types of necromancy for this kind of thing

>>52000911
Except for all the Eldar and Deldar that oppose Ynead

>>52000929
Turns out 40k really is a prequel to Warhammer fantasy, set in the last planet of the whole galaxy after everyone nuked each other to the medieval age.

>>52000923
>Why?
Huffing them there engine fumes.

>>52000947
>you
>the guy she tells you not to worry about
>the guy that guy's girl tells him not to worry about
>the guy THAT guy's girl tells HIM not to worry about
>marinelet

>>52000911
Yeah, 30k.

Seriously though, loyalist vs. traitor is something about 30k that works pretty well, especially at events.

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>>52000947
Holy fucking shit he's huuuuuge.
Also, reminder Morturg wasn't yet fully dead and Decima needed both Revenant Alchemistry and Biomancy to bring him back.
Cawl probably based his work on this and added extra knowledge.

>>52001040
>Holy fucking shit he's huuuuuge.
4U

>>52001040
>Also, reminder Morturg wasn't yet fully dead and Decima needed both Revenant Alchemistry and Biomancy to bring him back.
That's a good point.

Seeing how big Cawl is, Scoria should be pretty beastly, even without his Abeyant

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>>52001113
Kek, on point, anon.

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>>52001040

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>>52000947

>>52000226
are you applying it by brush?

>>52000839
>>52000023
Now I'm wondering if he'll appear somewhere as a mechanicum scrub or footnote - a real nobody, similar to Bjorn on Prospero

>>52001242
>Techpriest Auxilia Belisarius Cawl.
Back when he was only 1.9m tall. How cute!

>>52001242
Sure as shit aren't gonna give him a model and rules.

>>52001348
>So they released Komnenos the BELISARIUS-HANDED

>>52001220
Yes and no, in that pic the IC on the tamiya pot, the 2 terminators and the 2 dudes behind him were all by brush.
The 4 torsos of the dudes at the front, and the Rhino, were a rattlecan. Arms, heads etc are all with brush.
You just need to thin it a little if brushing and find your sweet amount on the brush. Takes 2 coats. Your gold basecoat needs to be completely solid or imperfections show through.
This does mean you can add shading on top of the gold before you do the red.
I tried putting some black on the rhino before the red for dirt etc, but it was too dark, so did it again with just the red, I'll just weather on top the same colour as my army bases I guess.

I'm not a skilled painter so take my advice with as many grains of salt as necessary, but if you can't use an airbrush and want to go metallic, tamiya clear/translucent red over gold gives the desired effect, I think.

>>52001150
I don't know, I always imagine him as a normal-sized man, soft-spoken, quite affable in a slightly creepy way, until he hops in the scorpion abeyant, grabs his staff and goes full REEEEE on whatever dumb fuck decided to screw with him. Obviously still Admech, but the regular dude wouldn't be any bigger than Draykavac on foot IMO.

>>52001316
>>52001242

Aww, that sounds actually quite sweet. I mean, no rules obviously, but having him pop up as a side dude for a small sidebar quote on the DarkMech might be nice.

>>52001366
>next HH box
>IH vs. something-something
>Fellisarius Broth with all the background of young Cawl

I'm so tempted to just make my own version of Gaygor mimicking the old Bjorn art and using his rules.

>>52001398
>I don't know, I always imagine him as a normal-sized man, soft-spoken, quite affable in a slightly creepy way, until he hops in the scorpion abeyant, grabs his staff and goes full REEEEE on whatever dumb fuck decided to screw with him. Obviously still Admech, but the regular dude wouldn't be any bigger than Draykavac on foot IMO.
Yes, this very much. I still see him as that long haired kid dressed in a black cloak from my dream.
>>52001454
>>Fellisarius Broth
Motherfucking kek

>>52001454
Wouldn't complain too much, that would mean you might get plastic ad mec stuff

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Once again I have to beg forgiveness. The uploading process is taking a very long time and I've dicked people over enough as is with yesterday's delay. So I'm going to drop the links as each part is uploaded. There'll be about an hour or so between each of these and I'm deeply sorry about that, but enjoy it piece by piece as it comes out.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mwhac07w7h7w6k8/Inferno01.zip

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>>52001689
You are an awesome individual, and have nothing to apologise for. Thanks for your work!

>>52001689
Mate. You're destroying a 70 GBP book to give it to people on the internet for free. You could take until Angelus is released and not have to apologize.

Why did all the fun and interesting legions have to turn traitor? The loyalists are so boring.

>>52001744
>You could take until Angelus is released and not have to apologize.
Seconded, but please don't.

Will we get rules for Malcador in a Battle of Terra book?

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>>52001605
Don't know about you, but personally I can't read other people's dreams. Seems to be a rare talent.

Trying currently to come up with design ideas for all my Biologis Magi and Archmagi.

Need an Archimandrite, who's probably going to be a big cyborg fleshy monster with some Admech head+body built in somewhere.

Axiarch, who'll be an uparmoured Skitarii Alpha with a couple weapons, not complicated.

Magos Reductor, who'll be a floating thing in a tank like a Dune Navigator, since I want one Magos who's a little crazy.

Scoria, who's the Draykavac body and head on a Necron Scorpion body like pic related, but with smoother armour panels and a few more insane cables around the place, because greenstuff.

Two Domini, who'll be regular FW or GW Domini with a few seperate parts and with the Machinator Array weapons on.

Good job I found a recaster, since now I can get FW stuff as bits, since the special characters are MUCH cheaper and I'm not paying £60 for a big bag of bitz.

>>52001689

Please stop being sorry, you don't have to be and if anything we should be begging forgiveness for being impatient. Thanks, based Scananon.

>>52001764
Hopefully.

>>52001748
>Edge Lords
>Smelly guys
>Popular kids
>Rip and Tear
>Jehovah's Witnesses
>Nerds
>Bitter Paranoiac Autism
>Bully Legion
>Memes
Nothing of value was lost.

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>>52001689
>is deeply sorry
>appologizes profusely
>begs forgiveness
Dude. Just... chill. We love you anyway.
Let's hear it for the best guy on the board!
https://youtu.be/E-WHW-QNswE?t=24s

>>52001689
Hail Scannon!

I non-destructively scanned a single book for tg once, so I'm just in awe of how much further you've gone for it, just for these amazing scans.
You're the best, man

>>52001689
Thank you for all your hard work. I will make you a pdf you can be proud of.

People are trying to resurrect 40k and/or 30k here with 1k casual lists. Based on my tiny ass SOH ownings I'm struggling to reach that point limit without taking my kharybdis. Can a normal 40k army deal with 40 tacs, 2 quads, a guy with an axe and that? Nobody here has played any type of warhammer in years so we don't know.

>>52001689
>>52001858
/hhg/ gets all the cool people and I kinda feel like shit. The only thing I do are photo-leaks of new codices, since I am too cheap to actually damage my books...

>>52001887
Yeah, no problem. The one struggling will be you.

>>52001887
30k really doesn't function well under 2k points, you might be best running your SoH as space marines or CSMs if your friends are set on low points.

>>52001888
Don't, that's fine, contributing no matter quality is worthy in itself. Also remember that the stuff we share, from scanon's work to photos to spoilers of new books gets copied, ripped and scattered around the web community. Stuff you or anyone shares is a boon to load and loads of people.

>>52001795
>spess knights
>dude mongols
>dude vikings
>build wall
>angry birds
>toaster fetishists
>dude romans
>dragons
>operators who operate operationally

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>>52001858

Are you the original Archive-Bro? If you are, you still being here brings warm feelings to my heart. How long have we been doing this? Since Massacre? Four years, give or take. You're as much of an hero as I am, even if you never get any of the credit. In fact you deserve more credit than I do.

>>52001888

Same with you. You do a service as good as anything I could do.

Here, part 2 is done.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/e82g62khl8325bz/Inferno02.zip

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Finished some tacticals.

>>52001795
Wait, who are the Memes Legion, the Bully Legion, the Bitter Paranoiac Autism Legion, and the Popular Kids?

>>51998987
I believe you forgot to mention at which steel you added the thiccness.

>>52001748
The White Scars are interesting, or at least their novels make them appear so... but their color scheme isn't great. 5 out of 9 loyalist legions are black, white, or gray. That's lame. None of the remaining 4 changed much from M31 to M41, and that makes them seem boring.

For people who aren't familiar with 40k the Blood Angels are probably genuinely interesting. Their one BL novel was only so-so; the characters were painfully indistinct.

>>52001987
AL, SoH, IW, EC

>>52001966
But I like all of you.

>>52001966
I am, though I've gotten some lessons from others over the years on improving things like efficient cropping, image scalling and how to turn those garbage epubs into nice pdfs. Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere.

>>52001689
All hail Scanon, for he is a generous anon. He gave his only copy of inferno to save all anons wallets.

>>52001966
I love you, scanon. Homo or no homo, you decide.

>>52001888
>>52001966
Without the 2 of you most people here wouldn't have the rules at all

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>>52000725

Dude, is Valdor still alive? I know the Custodes are fundamentally immortal, and no one knows how to make new ones with the Big E in a coma, but....

Scanon is the Manon

>>52002065
We don't know, but chances are he's still kicking.

>>52001689
Yeah you better beg you piece of shit. Why the fuck you so Damn slow? Post or Get out

>>52002044
True dat

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>>52002065
He now owns a small, legitimate business. Pic related.

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>>52002065
Wait a minute...

>>52001795
>Vampire/predator psychological warfare with baroque theme
>Durable hazmat toxic environment wwI western front attrition warfare with prussian/radioactive theme
>tactical genius with carthaginian and cult themes
>contrast of ultra violence and noblebright colours sinister theme
>fanatics with dark undertones of inquisitorial spain and satanism
>Egyptian/Phrygian with royal colours of the house of Rameses II (interesting parallel between the city Pirameses and Ticza is that both were totally uprooted and moved) with scarab theme.

Traitors have the best aesthetics, plot and were undoubtedly the superior forces.

>>52002094
Meant to reply to
>>52002091

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Man, after the Secutarii came out I can't help but think that the Arvus Lighter is perhaps the most deceptively strong unit in the Mech list. Basically a 70pt Drop Pod that then becomes a Rhino and can take guns, and doesn't mishap in Ruins because Reductor. Load it with Hoplites and onehit Baneblades, or load it with Destructors and go Grav Cents 2: Electric Boogaloo. Or just Scoria on his own, because it's silly.

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>>52002091
I'll give you you're (You) so you can leave now.

>>52002065
Well wasn't he the one who led the leader of the Emperor's Brides to kill Vandire?
Gee, Vandire.
What happened to you, man.
You did a nice job in The Beast series.

>>52001795
EC were popular? I thought the majority of other muhreenz agreed the EC were all a bunch of fags.

>>52001689
>Gibbing free pdf's of Inferno
>Apologizing for the delay

We are truly unworthy of scananons gift, forgive us our Emperor.

>>52001966
It looks like there's some missing in between pages, like page 54 and page 138. Were these just blank pages? It's no big deal if they are, I was just wondering.

>>52002120
Well...fuck. Now I can't unsee it.

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>>52002091
>only suitable reply

>>52002135
Only until now? That was the only thing that made Grav Secutors useful, and a Battle Automata suddenly appearing where the enemy didn't want to isn't a thing to scoff at, especially if it is a Paragon of Metal

>>52002147
It is commonly assumed, but never actually stated to be him.

>>52002153
They were super popular among the human parts of the Imperium.

>>52002197
Yeah, but I only just a) Realised we had it at all
and b) Realised how reliable it actually is.
Grav Secs just got upgraded to a more powerful, cheaper and sexier unit, and I've actually tried Vorax now so I can see how deepstriking two of them could be fun.

Mostly it allows you to drop something big and distractiony in, like Scoria and something to tank for him.
Also, now I can finally get my opponents to stop running Spartan Deathstar in every game/casual tourney, since there's almost noone without one of those, and occasionally two.

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>>52002201
This would be the only way to take away me headcanon.
>Tfw Valdor is Annie from Misery, and hopes the Emperor never recovers because he simply likes taking care of Him.

>>52002135
Can't you shoot it down with Interceptors?

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>>52001970

>>52002287
Subjective, I like Myrmidons better, and if I was a Magos I'd definitely become one flavor of Dakkamancer. But Hoplites are cheap and quite resilient for their stats.

As for Scoria, with whom would he share the Arvus with?

>>52002309
>allowing the existence of interceptors on the board as mechanicum after turn 1
you're doing something wrong bud

>>52002309
It deepstrike on hover, so it'd be a skimmer, and Interceptor happens at the end of the movement phase, aka when the troops it carried had already disembarked 6".
And nothing short of Interceptor Medusae could stop Reductor Secutarii from shooting on arrival. And even then, they have Refractor fields.
But they're expensive.

>>52002309
Since that happens at the end of the phase, yes you can, but it still has time to disembark it's cargo, and the 75-90pt plane isn't exactly a massive threat. You also hardly ever mishap, have good reserves with an Archimandrite and get a 6" disembark move to fix scatter and get into a good spot to dodge LoS/get a good angle on the target.

>>52002337

The nasty thing about the Hoplite drop is you don't have to worry about them dying but they can do a lot for you if even one lives. No idea what to put Scoria in with, nothing much he likes that isn't an MC. Perhaps some Thallax just to tank, or some Priest Auxilia to drop in, go their separate ways and multimelta some things.

>>52002377
Kek, I fucked up all my verbs.
>>52002381
True.

>>52002167
I think they're blank. All the scans are missing pages like that - kind of messes with two-page viewing. You have to switch back-and-forth between "two pages" to "two pages with cover" modes. But it reduces filesize.

>>52002377
Well, 12 Hoplites with an Omnispex is only 164 pts, 254 with an Arvus w/ TL Autocannon. That's a lot less than the thing they'll probably fry, and they can score too. They're not dirt cheap, but it's certainly within expendable range.

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>>52002091

Sorry, it's the fault of slow upload speeds. It can't be helped. It won't be long now until its all done, I beg your indulgence for a little while longer. Here's part 3.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/z9zh9931ooixpxn/Inferno03.zip

>>52002377
>>52002381
Ah, shit yeah, knew there was something. That's kind of BS, it's meant to be "Interceptor" not "let them hang around for a bit, then shoot them whenever"

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Guilliman will rekt Magnus in 40k.
Hurray.

>>52002446
To be fair, Drop Pods have offered that as a benefit for forever, and are cheaper. You can still nail them with ground Interceptor, since they did just arrive from reserves, just not all the "Must Gain Both" things.

>>52002483
Fulgrim started moving outside the Eye again. Expect a rematch.

>>52002440
I salute you Lord Scannon for your dedicated work

>>52002514
I hope he will get something like "Most Perfect Primarch" Special Rule. He hit on 2+ and his hits are resolved as Str. D against other primarchs in chalenges.

>>52002514
>tfw Fulgrim just stabs him and Roevwade goes back to sleep

>>52002440
I really dig the gray and purple of this new titan legion.

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>>52001689
>>52001966
>>52002440
Thank You ScanAnon.

>>52002566
Literally just EC.

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And that, thank goodness, is that. All done. The nightmare is over. This period is always hell because suddenly I get showered with praise I do not deserve and lauded as some kind of hero instead of a guilty copyright infringer and destroyer of books. Now I can sink back into the mass of anon and vanish among the faceless masses, free at last.

I can't make promises about Angelus, but I never though I'd actually get to do Inferno, and look where we are. So with luck, I'll see everyone in a year or so. This place nearly went to shit in the period between Retribution and Inferno, try not to let the same happen between Inferno and Angelus.

Archive-bro, it's all yours. Finish this and be the hero.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/k4ons49p8wb35s9/Inferno04.zip

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>>52001689
>>52001966
>>52002440
>>52002638
Thank you

GLORY TO THE SCANON!!!!

BEAUTIFUL PROVIDER OF BOOKS!

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>>52002638

>>52002638
>instead of a guilty copyright infringer and destroyer of books
That's a fair concern, but many of us got started thanks to your scans and went on to buy FW products that we otherwise wouldn't have.

And even for the books I buy, I'd rather also have one of your scans so I can read the book on the train - easier to take a tablet to work than one of these books.

>>52002638
Well okay man, I'll say this at least, you're a cool guy, sure as sure.

>>52002638
*salute*

>>52002638
Have a internet hug/brofist/whatever, dude. You rock.

>>52002638
>This place nearly went to shit in the period between Retribution and Inferno, try not to let the same happen between Inferno and Angelus.
Words from the man himself, /HHG/. Here them.

>>52001970
You make me feel so bad anon

>>52002759
*Heed*

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>>52002768
Why is that

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>>52002638
>Allowing the plebs into MY expensive hobby
Damn him straight to hell!

>>52002638
AAAAA. My orgasm is so strong that it make me into Slaaneshi Daemon Prince.

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>>52002638

>>52002638
Scanon, you are truly a God amongst anons. May you spend forever doing whatever the fuck it is you like to do

>>52002638
you the real mvp

>>51998484
Gun servitors have always looked like that too.

Turns out Mars gives 0 fucks about looks and just reinforces the spine to take the weight, who knew.

>>52002638
Thank you man, your efforts have made 30k a reality for many of us that can't afford it.
Your work is truly selfless.

Have a hug from the other side of the web.

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>>52002638
>>52002440
>>52001966
>>52001689
One of the few true heroes of /hhg/.

>>52002638
Dear Scananon Greatest of Us All.
All versions of HH book 1 Betrayal lacks of page 79. Can you please post it here?

Been out of the loop for awhile. So how good is russ compared to his brothers in 30k? He has rules now, right?

>>52002794
Your paint scheme is so close to mine, yet so much better

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>>52002638

>>52002958
He can outfight anyone but Scoria and the nameless Cutodes Tribune. Magnus can also drop him before he reaches melee.

>>52002958
He's the Sigismund of Primarchs, can 1v1 anyone but sucks against anything else and doesnt buff your army.

>>52002964
post it

>>52002995
True, no Primarch can beat him. Scoria and Cheestodes can take him apart, though.

>>52002993
I'm pretty sure that anon worked it out, and Russ beats Tribune beats Scoria beats Russ.

>>52003091
I'm fairly sure it was Scoria>Tribune>Russ, but I may remember it wrongly.
Pretty sure about Scoria beating the tribune by the tiniest of margin, though.

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>>52003031
It's yours, but shit

>>52003159
>>52003091
the fights were basically .5 or less wounds in it, so with the noise added with actual rolling, they are all basically equal

>>52003159
Nah, I remember because he commented how the lower toughness of the Tribune meant Sever Life came into effect more often which is what gave it to Russ.

Anybody else looking forward to facing armies with nothing but BaC/BoP models and 40k vehicles led by nuGuilliman? Because you all know this *will* happen.

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>>52003209
It looks like you can easily make it look even better. What paints?

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>>52002429

I made a very shitty thing in paint. No idea why, just felt like it.

>>52003091
>>52003159
>>52003214
>>52003231

Yeah, that was me. Everything was so tiny it was purely academic. Scoria beat Russ by slamming him hard when he did hit and having the tankiness to offset Sever Life, Tribune beat Scoria by being able to tank him despite his mediocre damage output in comparison, and Russ beat the Tribune by slicing him up nicely as the lower T meant that Russ could wound more reliably with his S:User sword and Sever.

>>52003260
www.reddit.com/r/gatekeeping

I found just the right le reddit page for you

>>52003260
Eh, I really don't think it's that much of a deal as long as they're painted decent. You can't blame someone for wanting to use good deals to by the plastic equivalents of the excessively priced (for Infantry anyways) resin models. Plus there's still legion/FW specific stuff that GW doesn't produce and many of those are fairly powerful and thematic choices.

>>52003260
That's been pretty much the case since Calth released. There'll probably be a rhino or spartan release with the next boxed set though. Istvaan has plenty of scope for some vehicles, at least Jetbikes.

>>52003214
We need to toss Rowboat 2.0 at those and the other big melee dudes and see how he fares. Because he has a fairly chunky melee statline and his ability to dish out the D is nasty.

>>52003260
>Anybody else looking forward to facing armies with nothing but BaC/BoP models and 40k vehicles led by nuGuilliman? Because you all know this *will* happen.

Mars pattern Rhinos exist in 30k.
40k Guilliman is clearly not suitable for 30k.

As for the general disdain for BaC/BoP beginner armies, this is somehow better than facing a table full of recasts?

>>52003318
BaC and BoP are awesome, but I'm also sure we'll see people using the new Roboute as a stand-in for his 30k model. I know I've already had people seriously using plastic Magnus in that manner.

How do you guys go about assembling and painting lots of dudes? Like, where do you find the will? I have 2 boxed sets waiting to at least be assembled, but I've only put together and painted literally one Marine from each. I enjoy painting well enough, but the time it takes coupled with what I have is intimidating, especially because A) I don't have an air brush and B) I want them to look good.

>>52003362
What Magnus model would you rather them use?

>>52003209
Bro I was feasting on my shit posting bait before, but for real.
That is perfectly acceptable, and certainly better than some of the other shit on here.
Is it as good as other anons?
No
But you are not THAT far off.

>>52003362
Magnus has the justification that his model isn't out

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reminder

>>52003301
I thought he was being sarcastic
>>52003299
I happen to love shitty paint memes. Thanks anon.
>>52003317
I think you'll simply love the Battle Automata vs Tau IA book. When is it due?

>>52003318
No.
Recasters are worse.
Hypocritical faggots. Ever fucking one.

>>52003372
Production line them. Cut all the pieces out, then go through and glue 30 torsos, then 30 legs, then 30 backpacks or whatever, pretend you are the machine.

>>52003318
>>52003410
Why not both?

>>52003317
the D has some requirements, but we dont know what, might be a single attack. his invun is only 4++ isn't it? i think sorca would win

>>52003372
it's the job that's never started as takes longest to finish. Just start working at it and it goes pretty fast. It helps to have objectives and try to cover as many of one feature across the models at a tiem as possible. You get better at painting that feature as you go on and it saves time switching paints.

>>52003450
6s to hit.

>>52003409
>when is it due
Given FW's schedule, I'd assume just shortly after the heat-death of the universe.

>>52003467
why?

>>52003450
The D procs on any 6 to hit. And his invuln is 3++.

>>52003467
oh i see what you mean, maybe, but the wording is weird, it ends on 'with' rather than 'which' (IE which roll a 6 to hit)

>>52003317
Tribune loses, since running with 30k S:D, one in every round of attacks will force him to take a regular 3++, and he can only afford to fail two of those. So he has to kill Rowboat a lot faster, which he can't manage, dealing .833 wounds per round, before Guillimans FnP. He'll be punched out by D on round six or seven.

It's more interesting with Russ and Anacharis, since they hit a tad harder themselves. Scoria kills him in less than 5 rounds, not calculated Guillimans damage yet.

>>52003497
And you can't forgive his 4+ "I didn't really die for reals guys!" roll.

>>52003410
What's hypocritical about recasters? I'll grant that it's immoral but have you never pirated tv shows?

>>52003513
All for the same price as Slightlyannoyedron.

>>52003260
Makes it all the more fun to slap Nuilliman's shit with my RT era Russ.

>>52003511
What about Rawbutt 2.0 vs Sigismund?

>>52003539
Different anon, but I don't mind recasts in friendly games and such, there so much avaliable in the Horus Heresy that buying a full price isn't viable for some people and plus it allows you to do a lot more narratively/your dudes

>>52003511
I don't mean to be rude, but do people actually use the changed D rules? We're using the regular ones locally and we never even considered changing over.

>>52003540
I thought he was cheaper, saw he was supposedly 350 pts (been floating around of course, no way to confirm) while Angron sits at a solid 400. So he's nearly as good a beat stick, though lacks any kind of bodyguard or transport capacity being a MC but buffs his entire army and fights nearly as well as Angron.

>>52003550
Depends entirely if he has EW.

>>52003556
Why would you care more in a competitive game? It's not like they grant an advantage.

>>52003567
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Roboute_Guilliman#40K_Guilliman

>>52003568
He does.

>>52003560
I know some people like it more while others like it less, though book one was also from the era of insanely OP S:D, where you never got saves from it instead of JUST on a 6.

>>51999045

>Yvraine is hanging out with Punished Roboute

I like that.

>>52003289
Zandri Dust base
Ushabti Bone
Death World Green
Runelord Brass
Abaddon Black
Leadbelcher
Agrax Earthshade

Base is some train modelling stuff of different sizes with a martian ironearth undercoat.

>>52003511
Wait, why are you using 30k D?
I've yet to meet someonewho uses it, and Guilliman 2.0 was designed around 40k D.
It makes more sense to defer to that, because otherwise we aren't getting an accurate picture of bobby G as he actually is in the rules.

Bobby G should probably destroy scoria if it really does take him 5 turns, because going by 40k rules Guilliman needs exactly 2 turns before he wipes scoria off the face of the planet with the d6+6 no saves of any kind result

>>52003556
Big problem with FW is that they don't really sell through retailers that much. GW shit is easy to get cheap when you can find a retailer selling for a good 20-30% off. Combine that with their box sets that are already cheaper.

>>52003419

Yea, I was thinking something like that. Never done it that way before, though. I'm also telling myself that I'm not putting them together yet because I'm waiting for upgrade kits and guns, but that is mostly BS since I can do torsos and shit now.

>>52003463

That is true. Part of the problem is that my only real time to do anything is when I get home from work, and then I never want to do anything. Hell, it took me a week to assemble 5 raptors for the CSM side of my army.

Guess I just need to push myself. I just don't want it to feel like work.

>>52003636
Why only two turns? He only gets 6 attacks base and only gets S:D on a 6 to hit and the 6+d6 wounds with no saves only works on a further roll of a 6 on the Destroyer chart. That's going to take a bit more to guarantee it.

>>52003656
It's not 2 turns.
I was working out bobby vs the warlord earlier, in which all of his to wounds are S:D. Completely for got that was not always the case, because most of the time he's hitting on berter than a 6+.

It's 6 turns to be garunteed a d6+6 result, but he'll be averaging one S:D wound per turn.

How would I do Belisarius Cawl in 30k? I mean, what would we even know of him? I'm thinking a small allied force of Mechanicus with him as some junior magos or something.

>>51998490
>Magnus the Red Warplock bronze
what did you mean by this?

>>52003656
He's got a 0.1944 chance to proc the super-D on any given combat phase.

>>52003733
It's .1666... Actually.
The emperor's sword isn't a specialist weapon, while girlyman's powerfist is, assuming 30k stats.

>>52003733
Certainly far from awful odds, just not exactly what I would say is a guarantee though I did slightly derp and forget that every turn has two combat phases so within 2 full game turn you'd have nearly a .8 chance to proc it.

>>52003768
They're only a single combined profile actually, like Abbadon's old claw+sword combo.

>>52003768
They are combined into 1 weapon profile actually.

>>52001689
Do you have a PayPal or something? I
You've probably saved me $600+ so far and I need to give back.

>>52003710
He's either a Reductor, or a Macrotek. He'd be an Archmagos Archimandrite or Reductor in 40k.
I mean, he fortified Cadia, right?

>>52003768
Actually they're actually actually.
Actually.

>>52003828
Literally?

>>52003866
No. Figuratively.

>>52003785
>>52003786
Huh. Didn't see that.

That's good.
Would suck for Guilliman to miss out on attacks because the emperor's sword of all things isn't a specialist weapon.

>>52003872
Contrarily?

>>52003560

I like them, they are fairer for big stuff, and in duels they make it a bit more fair, but OK. In this case, I'll defer to >>52003636
and work off 40k.

The way that ends up working is that as his reroll 1s trait doesn't quite provide an extra hit over 5 rounds, Guilliman WILL win in 6 rounds.

Regular punching: Guilliman lands 3.66 normal hits (And 1 D, which will be resolved later). This translates into 0.51 wounds after saves and IWND. The D hit, which isn't calculating 6s because that's ending the duel anyway R6, does 0.66 wounds. Adding those to the earlier ones, Scoria dies in 4.27 rounds, so D6 won't occur.

Scoria's return damage:
His Vodian Sceptre does 1.33 wounds flat, then his Machinator does 1/6 per round, for a total of 1.5 wounds per round. Scoria kills G-man in 4 rounds, so Guilliman loses it on the margin. Close.

Against Russ, Guilliman does one D hit per round, causing 1 wound per round, so kills in 6 either way.

Russ hits 3, wounds 2.25 and causes 0.5 wounds per round, and even with Sever Life bumping that up to 0.74 gets his shit wrecked.


Scoria wins, Russ loses. I suspect Gman does better with 30kD, since the fights don't last long enough for the onehit and the reroll invulns would probably do it.

>>52003710
>>52003816
He's an Archmagos Dominus in 40k, so maybe a generic Dominus?
Or just an Engineseer, he's not very senior at all in 30k

>>52003636
What's the difference between the D's?

>>52003891
You did include his rerolls of 1s in melee due to his warlord traits, right?

>>52003951
One is uncut.

>>52003957
No, seriously

Is Russ getting his ass kick by Horus before or after Molech?

>>52003891
>His Vodian Sceptre does 1.33 wounds flat, then his Machinator does 1/6 per round, for a total of 1.5 wounds per round. Scoria kills G-man in 4 rounds, so Guilliman loses it on the margin. Close.
Wait. Hold on. What fucking math is that?
Scoria has 3 attacks. He's hitting on 5+ because Guilliman is ws9, which means his sceptere is doing 2 wounds on average, brought down to .666 wounds because of the 3++. The machinator array is wounding on 3+, which makes .5 wounds brought down to .166... Wounds by the 3++. That makes .888 wounds per round.
How the hell are you getting 1.5 wounds per round? Somebody's math is way off here

Wait, just 3 attacks?

>>52003916
I'm going with the fluff. I mean, aren't all Cult Mechanicus' HQ options dudes that pass Battlesmith on a 2+ and have a Cybertheurgy-equivalent?
In 30k you have 8 Magos flavours (or 16 if you count the enhanced versions as separate), while in 40k you have like two

>>52003891
The other way I could have done it would be to have the D6 hit Round 4, as that's when odds of it go above 50%, in which case it would entirely hang on whether Scoria took IWND at the end of Round 3, so 50% either way.

If it's factored in as a ticking 1.84 wounds per turn, it would allow him to beat literally anything without Stomp or D itself, but it's preferable to keep those like Sever Life or Horus' Disabling Strike, activated once damage or number of attks made pass a certain threshold, or you wind up subtracting 0.72 WS from Scoria per Horus attack round, and thus granting (0.72D3) extra attacks and stuff, which as it's a combat round system doesn't actually occur on the tabletop.

Also, there's a moratorium on psychic powers in my Mathhammer (Not that that applies here), since you'd have to work out what Warp Charge spend, on what powers, gives the optimal kill time ratio decrease, and what Perils would do, and a billion other things. So none of those, ever, because not only are they broken and will grant autowins, I like my brain unmelted. No witchery in honourable combat.

>>52003955

Yes I did, but it doesn't advance the D:6 to Round 5, and doesn't increase vanilla damage enough.

>>52003951

30k is S10, Ignore Cover, reroll invulns and penetration rolls, and does D3+1 wounds/HP.

40k doesn't Ignore Cover or force invuln rerolls, but has it's own table in the rulebook, where a 6 does 6+d6 wounds with no negating saves or FnP.

>>52004011

Scoria has 4 attacks, hits on 4s because WS5. Machinator is S6 Shred, so that's 1 hit, 0.75 wounds, 0.25 unsaved and then 1.666666 through FnP. V-stick ignores his FnP, which is why that's not factored there.

>>52004044

Base, +1 for his Abeyant.

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>>52004044
From scoria?
Unless I'm blind then yes.
3 for the sceptere, 4 on the charge.
2 from the array, which will do a pitiful .111... Wounds per round, not .166... Forgot the array is done seperate

Can anybody post pg 79 of HH book 1?

>>52004089
pg 79 of HH book1

>>52004089
pg 79 of HH book 1