COMPETITIVE MODERN GENERAL MAGIC MTG M:TG barely not good enough

>>51994986

>cryptic command does all of the above and has more versatility overall

>>51995020
Cryptic Command returns Snapcaster Mage and flashes back Push/Path?

Why aren't people putting Lili of the Veil in esper control?

>>51995062
Why aren't people putting Lili in Grixis Control? It distracts from the game plan.

>>51995194
Kill their creatures and grind them into dust.
Esper has Think Twice and Lingering Souls that can be discarded for 'free' and G1 Death's Shadow doesn't have many creatures out so -2 will kill either goyf or the shadow

I love how shitters don't realise that the Hardened Scales + Rites of Passage combo with Walking Ballista dies to Bolt.

>>51994986

>cryptic can bounce a permanent
>cryptic can counter anything
>cryptic cost 4 mana

>ojutai's C needs snapcaster on gy and remove also
>ojutai's C only counters creature spells
>you need 4 mana for ojutai's plus 1 for the remove (5 mana). 6 mana if you want to counter something.

you're probably trolling but cryptic is far superior than ojutai's C in almost every aspect.

With all these price drops incomming, what's the most efficient competitive deck (T1-2) I can build on a budget (500-600$) ?

I like Through the breach, Dredge, Amulet Titan (not sure about how good it is), and UR storm.

I also love Lantern but it's out of my budget.

>>51995239
lili is more of a grindy midrange card, not a control piece

hence jund/abzan as opposed to UBx control

>>51994986
Ojutai C takes a cryptic slot and you'll never get the setup against Death's Shadow :
>Turn 5
>Both Path and snapcaster in the graveyard

>>51995670
>I like bad decks
just build affinity

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>>51995797
>

>>51995670
Although is a bit out of your budget, I would recommend Affinity. I already had 11 different decks, and affinity is the one i always come back for. There is something about it: the crazy plays that feels like combo, the regular beat-down aggro, or the risk when you know the hate is coming. It feels different, it plays different. One match you play as linear aggro, other you play as midrange (etched champion with aether grids), it just feels different from the rest.

>>51995915
I know, I kinda like it too but it's just so expensive...

Another thing to consider is it has been top tier consistently for the longest time and is more likely to be hit by a ban than other decks. Also, it doesn't run many cards that can be used in other decks outside of Mox Opal.

>>51995969
Why would you need other decks when you have affinity?
Just kidding. The fun part is that all the decks I enjoyed the most lack staples (fetch and shocklands). I sold my Dredge recently and currently building Eldrazi Tron, so I could give some use to my Chalices of the Void. But to be honest I'm that asshole that had 12 wooded foothills because I had 3 decks that used them, and I disliked changing cards between them (used triple sleeve).

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r8 my snek meme list
idk what I'm doing with this sideboard right now

8whack or mono green stompy?

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>>51996023

>>51996023
No Anafenza/10

>>51996034
Is this why this shit is spiking like hell right now ? Lmao

>>51996025
None, if you are on a budget and want to play aggro play Merfolks

>>51996034
Nah it's jank enough as it is

>>51996069
>merfolk
>budget

>>51996115
It's the cheapest T2 deck. What's the point spending money on cards if you only win when your opponent floods ?

Unless you are playing on a casual meta ofc, then I would recommand 8w

I want to proxy a deck to use competitively, but I also want to MAGA. Are there any good American counterfeiters to use?

>>51996804
Step 1 is kys

At which point should one buy staples following MM17 release? I am looking to buy fetches, Snapcasters and Blood Moons, although I also need 1 of Cavern of Souls and some Stony Silences. Should I preorder singles or wait a month or two until after the release?

>>51994986
It should have had a 3 cmc with a white kicker/replicate like mechanic to get the second mode. Would have been flavorful because blue white is all about tactics and setting the pace of battle.

>>51996979
ky@ buddy

>>51997186
kysmm

Is there anything in black that makes an Esper Flash style deck worth playing over Jeskai?

>>51997066
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/modern-on-sale
According to this article, you should buy about 1-4 months after release.

No hierarch. Set is a God damn failure

>>51998085
Jeskai has Bolt. Name any card and I will tell you why bolt is better.

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Find a flaw.

>>51998930
how does it eat with the tusk in front of the mouth?

>>51998738
Thoughtseize?

>>51998952
Please don't bully Hulk. It's clearly retarded.

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Have you got your playset?

>>51998952
It just exists to be eaten. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>51999010
no

>>51999331
Dude, really? Still going on about your stupid meme deck? Nobody cares

>>51998738
Swords to Plowshares
Jace the Mind Sculptor
Sensei's Divining Top
Counterbalance
Force of Will
Brainstorm
Ponder

Here's what I'm sleeving up for FNM this week. What kind of stuff should be in the sideboard? I don't really know what to expect except for the one guy who always brings BTL scapeshift and the diehard burn player.

LANDS:
4 Eldrazi Temple
12 Tron Lands
1 Cavern of Souls
4 Windswept Heath
1 Breeding Pool
1 Temple Garden
1 Forest
1 Plains
CREATURES:
4 Hierarch
4 Displacer
4 Thought-Knot
4 Reality Smasher
4 Drowner of Hope
2 World Breaker
PLANESWALKERS:
2 Ugin
ARTIFACTS:
4 Map
SORCERIES:
4 Stirrings
INSTANTS:
4 Path

>>51999493

It's hardly a meme

>>51999656
You're right, memes are funny

I'm going to a new to me store and haven't played since eldrazi winter. I have pregitban storm, but don't want to get gifts and barals by tonight.
I have UW Memeria Titan. Has that deck significantly changed in the past year or whatever? Spell queller? Reflector mage? Renegade rallier?

>>51999656
It's not anything. Just trash

>>51999665

>Memes are funny

Where have you been?

>>51999567
If you think burn is going to be a problem, there's stuff like Kor Firewalker and Feed the Clan to keep you alive so you can get your beaters out.
Other than that, there's a general sideboard that is pretty normal in Baant Eldrazi:
>Stony Silence
>Worship
>Blessed Alliance
>Engineered Explosives
>Thragtusk
>World Breaker
>Grafdigger's Cage
etc.

>>51999567
>Bant Eldrazi tron

This looks like a very spicy meme

Probably sideboard Walking Ballista, RiP, Blessed Alliance and/or Rest for the Weary for Burn and DSJ, engineered explosives. Swagtusk etc

What's the best UB deck that's not faeries or mill

I'm digging deep here so meme decks are ok

>>51999923
There is none

Awful thread desu

>>51999932
Well then I'm off to go brew

>>51999567
>bant tron drazi anon

Good luck, hope you'll go atleast 3-2.

>>51999562
>3 your face

I've somehow assembled enough parts from years of EDH to assemble the bulk of a Breach Titan deck, I'd just need a couple things.

How's the deck fare these days?

>>51999868
>>51999886
Thanks for the advice. Here's what I'm looking at for a sideboard currently:
1 Spellskite
1 Worship
2 Grafdiggers Cage
1 RiP
2 EE
1 Thragtusk
2 Warping Wail
2 Stubborn Denial
3 Blessed Alliance
>>52000247
Thanks mate, I'm going to need it.

>>52000430
It's all right actually, pretty much the best "combo" deck in modern right now.

>>52000471
Dredge is still the best combo deck

>>52000844
You spelled cheerios wrong

>inb4 wizards bans opal because of my patrician combo deck

>>52000922
I don't think wotc is going to do shit to it since it hasn't put up any results.

>>52000471
Oooh that's encouraging. Also tickles my inner Timmy/Johnny, my EDH career is almost exclusively "cheat this huge creature into play"

best island and swamp basics? Besides unhinged

>>52001128
Unhinged is trash

>>52000844
>fizzle with mom hug and do nothing is the best anything

>>52000922
Cheerios is shit mate.

>>52001256
Sure if you don't know how to play dredge it will be bad.
It also can function more like a midrange deck with a combo finish if need be.
It's still great, just not oppressive.

>>52001128
Mirage for swamps, Ice Age for Swamps and Islands and Urzas Saga for Islands

MM2017 is fucking hot garbage.

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>>52001823

>>52001861
EV of rares after after a conservative price drop are already less than MM2017 you stupid faggot.

>>52001823
No hierarch, no buy

>tfw sleeved up jeskai saheeli combo
how sick is my meme deck

>>52002478
I don't know, you didn't post any cards

>>52002478
You'll get fucked harder than your sister will tonight.

>>52002478
minus ten thousand meme points for jeskai, and poo in loo waifu

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Rate this deck list, trying to midrange without a lot of planeswalkers

Land - 23
4 Polluted Delta
4 Flooded Strand
2 watery grave
2 hallowed fountain
1 godless shrine
2 dark slick shore
2 drowned catacomb
2 island
1 swamp
1 plains
2 creeping tar pit

Creatures - 11
4 Pack Rat
3 Tasigur
3 Snap
1 Gurmag

Instants/Sorceries
4 Serum Visions
4 Lingering Souls
3 Thoughtseize
3 Inquisition
4 Thought Scour
3 Path
2 Push
2 Esper Charm

1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant

>>52003168
What does this deck do that traditional midrange doesn't?

>>52003182
Nothing I just want to play esper colors

>>52003168
Typicalboringmidrange/10
Doesn't look that great either desu. You really want something that is going to put you in the lead. Tasigur and gurmag will get killed and you'll have no win con

>tfw dredge has multiple lines of play and things you can be doing every turn
>tfw fun
You guys haven't ever played the deck before have you?
>dredge is linear solitaire

>>52003745
Dredge is linear solitaire you fucking stupid faggot

>>52003452
Why?

>>52003745
>discard dredger
>dredge
>cheat creatures in play
>kill opponent by creatures or conflagrate
>occasionally refuse a narcomoeba to play around board wipe
>hold land for bloodghast
Wow Dredge is truly a deep deck you sure showed my anon.

>>52003820
>>52003814
Whatever dude. It doesn't always work like that.
Lots of lines of interaction after board as well. What to dredge back and playing around hate

>>52003168
Why post recoil? You got me excited. I thought I had somehow missed it being reprinted in standard.

>tfw Tron has multiple lines of play like which Tron land in my hand to play first.
>Tfw fun.
You guys have never t3 karned with a control deck before have you? I sure love aggressively for a specific combination of cards in my control deck.
>Tfw people think I'm cancer.

>>52004004
Not the same but stay salty

what are the meta control decks in modern
do people still play grixis?

>>51995062

Lilly ruins your hand which kind of defeats the purpose of playing blue.

>>52004127
I'm so sorry anon, control is dead..

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Rate my shitbrew
Looking for improvements.
Treefolk tribal!

Forest x 22
Cavern of Souls x 2

Treefolk Harbringer x 4
Skyshroud Ranger x 3
Bosk Banneret x 3
Dungrove Elder x 4
Dauntless Dourbark x 4
Timber Protecter x 3
Vigor x 2
Kalonian Twingrove x 2
Crater Behemoth x 1

Fog x 2
Giant growth x 2
Blossoming defense x 2
Explosive Vegetation x 2
Harmonize x 2
Been playing on Xmage for a week with pretty shitty results, but im determined to make my shitbrew somewhat viable.

Bad matchups include most forms of control.
I tend to do better against creature based aggro/delver variants.

>>52004317
This is the modern thread

>>52004379
Yep, and i'm presenting my modern deck, looking for advice to help it become a slightly more competitive modern deck, for use in the modern mtg format.
I dont get what the issue is?

>>52004403
you posted casual tribal garbage in a competitive modern general. Nobody can give you advice to make it more competitive because it is garbage.

try the edh thread it seems more your speed.

this is what happens with shit OP's people

>>52004403
It's just really bad my dude. Like just do a Doran deck if you must

>>52004403
Well, first of all, /modern/ HATES brews. Unless, for some reason, it's using established meta decks inside new/memey way. Second, your deck is trash. Just.... just awful.

If you REALLY want Treefolk to be slightly less bad (but still shit) consider playing Doran and Assault Formation.

>>52004517
It's sad, Doran decks are insane with the pieces. Tower defense is busted.
However, without the pieces it's abysmal

>>52004317
>fog
>explosive veggies

I'm not even gonna bother, but go abzan colors and make it dat asDoran.

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for the anon who always asks for irl decks

>>52003814
>>52003820
is my deck considered linear?

>>52004490

Could you maybe pick another game to play? I'm embarrsed to share the same hobby with assholes like yourself.

>>52004599
Previous Grishoalbrand player.

It can be linear and it doesn't want to interact but the deck has so many cool interactions within itself and sneaky routes to victory it's good in my books.

>>52004317
Where's your murmuring bosk

>>52004572
>fog
i'll move it to the sideboard against creature based aggro but it feels breddy gud to fog 6+ damage and then swing out with some dicksmashing tree's because they're tapped out.
>explosive vegies
+2/+2 to Dungrove and Dauntless Dourbark as well as setting me up to Vigor or Kalonian twingrove the following turn.
Whats some better ramp for land, then?

>>52004601
Could you maybe pick another game to play? I'm embarrsed to share the same hobby with retards like yourself.

>>52004664
ty for actual constructive criticism.
Really considered it, because it's still a forest for my tree buffs, but im not sure if its worth dipping into white/black/both.
What could I do with those colours that wouldnt detract from the game plan too much?

>>52004724
Play the only good treefolk, Doran

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>>52004658
>I always read it as Grisel- Shoal- Brand
>realize I've been wrong all this time
>never made sense to me until this very moment

Around here, we call it GriselBreach.
Mind = Blasted

>>52004728
I dont feel like Doran helps me too much,my main beaters are Dungrove and Dauntless and they have the same P/T levels.

Should I just add murmuring bosk and add W/B generic meta goodshit like path and lili?

>>52004694
Before you'll use beggies yu'll be dead 80% of the time.

I was abut to try helping you but you're hopeless.

>>52004857
I've played like 20 games with this deck and never once lost before turn 5.
Any other advice? im open to suggestions, srs.

Ok with MM3 Coming out and lots of money I want to try to get into modern.

Is 8 Rack good at all? It looks the most fun to me.

>>52004981
8rack is fun as fuck to play, not super competitive though.
Also people will HATE you for playing it.

>>52004966
>like 20 games

>>52004981
It sucks. It's also stressful. You can't stop their top decks so hand rape isn't even that great

>>52004966
Where'd you play at Weenie hut Juniors or Super Weenie hut Juniors?

>>52005108
My friend also said the deck is pretty stressful. Guess its a common feeling among 8rack players.

>>52005098
>>52005122
On xmage.
Played a fuck load against jund, a fuck load against grixis aggro, a few against burn and the earliest i've died is turn 7.
Fog and hexproof are under rated as fuck.

so what's the deal with the supply on mm? are current box prices a result of temporary goyf hype? would it be smart to wait closer to release if i want a box?

>>52005175
>grixis aggro
I hope to god you're not talking about delver

>>52003819
I'm here exclusively to fuck robot girls

>>52003708
What would you recommend

>>51999493
Lol that is some fucking garbage card right there. Almost as bait as isocron scepter.

>>52005277
>What would you recommend
Anything other than midrange. Tempo, combo, aggro. Hard control is best avoided to.

>>52005108
>can't stop their top decks
What is funeral charm

>>52005436
Every turn? Lol ok

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please take a look at my meme. I'm more proud than i should be. plan on dropping on the misty's and verdant after mm17

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Who /burn/ here? Ever wish you could do something with your massive gy other than shock with grim lavamancer? Any secret/spicy tech?

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>>52005600
>Bring To Light
Mah nigga
I like your list, might wanna throw in some maindeck hand disruption and some Fatal Pushes though.
Here's mine

>>52005636
I've been trying out a couple new things. I've played Burn for about three years.
Sideboard Become Immense and/or Hooting Mandrills is hilarious. Right now I'm trying a slightly more control- focused Jund Burn with Murderous Cut.

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>>52005682
Better quality image+sideboard
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/garbage-gifts-a-four-color-junk/

>>52004599
I don't give a fuck what anyone says, shadowmoor manamorphose looks like shit

>>52005682
Thanks! like your list i tried to get away from the three lili's archetype of this deck but the power is incredible.

>>52005636
Spicy shit I've been liking is a couple of Bedlam Revelers somewhere in my 75, very nice blocker and good way to survive in matchups that are gonna go long

>>52005682
>Abzan gifts
You fucking faggot special snowflake, fucking put it in the fucking trash and end your life

>>52005695
Dude no shit, I was just talking to a friend about maybe mainboarding 1 become immense for a surprise factor.
And how is jund? I'm just finishing naya after a few months playing mono red

>>52005734
I can definately see why bedlam reveler would help, since I tend to vomit my hand pretty fast

Prison decks are not fun to play against

Like even worse than counterspells.dec

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>>52005707
better look of
>>52005600

>>52005896
>no gay sex with hats on
shit/10

>>52005803
Yeah, Immense will come out of nowhere. If I've won game 1, I'll side it in game 2 and it's just a huge blowout. I normally take out lavamancer because I never want both at the same time.

Jund Burn is pretty bad. I just had the cards lying around, so I threw it together. It's more focused on tempo play. Best down with creatures, use burn and removal to keep the board clear and only occasionally bolt face. I wish I had a link, I'd share what I have. But it's mostly normal Naya without Boros Charm and with stuff like Abrupt Decay in the side. It's generally not going well, but I have fun.

>Through the Breach will never get a reprint

>>52005953
is that a card you are referring to or......

>>52005956
That's disappointing lol I've also been looking at mardu burn just because crackling doom is a pet card

I want to play Modern, but I don't want to be a pushover. The problem is that I'm unwilling to play Modern unless I feel that I'm skilled enough to warrant buying a deck, but I only play a $30 Standard deck right now because:
1) Standard is a rotating format, which means that cards eventually lose value.
2) I am not going to squander money on a higher costing deck if I am just going to lose with it due to my lack of skill.
I was considering making a poorman's modern deck, then working my way up once I git gud. I am willing to piss out $100, maybe even up to $200, if the deck has potential. I am especially fond of hatebears.
I was considering this:
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-98-45-tix-modern-uw-spirits

Is this an adequate deck? Do you have better ideas?

>>52005979
>..........
Lurk more retard.

>>52006273
Bro build the budget mono red burn from mtggoldfish. It's pretty ok on it's own then you can make naya burn or better red burn

>>52005953
>sex with hats

Fucking degenerates i swear

>>52005803
I played with mainboard BE with Naya and while I think it's largely a meme card in the deck it's pretty funny blowing people out because they don't play around it or using it with boros charm to make a huge double striker to get under leyline.

>>52006333
Eh I love me some meme shit. Besides, I run 1 mb shard volley and hate it, so become immense seems more fun

>>52006273
That's a cute deck. Seems fine, but there are a couple I always recommend to new players.

Mono green stomp is cheap if you like aggro. I think it just got some new tech with aether revolts, too.

Mono Red Burn is what I started with amd upgraded over a few months while I learned the meta.

8rack can be built without Lili or bridges and does fine at FNM.

And, if you dont don't mind spending a little extra, BW Tokens is also a respectable deck.

>>52006273
Basically if you're starting and you want something cheap Mono G stompy and Mono R are the way to go. Based on the deck you chose though you might be interested in bant spirits and I'm sure you could fiddle with it to make a budget version and work towards building it.

Alternatively you could use something like xmage or cockatrice to get good and save your money and then just buy into something once you get gud.

>>52006390
These decks are all so bad. Thank God I'm not a budgetfag

>>52006479
UW Spirits is a good starting point if you think Bant spirits could be your thing. Unfortunately, Hierarch was not reprinted in MM17, so it might spike a bit.

>>52006515
Thanks for your contribution.

>>52006554
Fuck you. How's that for contribution?

>>52006515
I dont think they're BAD, there's just not good. They can do fine at a small, local level and that's what most players want to do. And they're easy on a technical level so new players can have an easier grasp on them while they learn the game and meta.

>>52006589
Why do new players need to be coddled? Play casual if you really can't grasp modern.
I started playing with affinity and scapeshift no problem

>>52006631
Well, that's cool for you, but it doesn't work for everyone. Sometimes, people need to ease in to something new. Not everyone can jump in to the deep end. Lots of people get scared off thinking they can just pick up a deck and play, but then they see the sheer enormity of the format.

A friend of mine, who I've been trying to get into Modern because he's a decent player, only plays standard because he "doesn't want to go through thousands of cards" (when in reality the modern card pool is relatively small).

Different strokes and all that.

>>52006564
About as useful as your other post, you fucking mong.

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This is the best card

Go to FNM, kid tries to steal my masterwork...

I should also note that the decks I regularly recognize being played at my LGS are Dredge (1 person), Infect (2), Affinity (2-3), Ad Nauseam (1), Sun and Moon (1), Something-Tron (1-2), Jund/Junk (1-2), and Something Eldrazi (2-3).
As for budget and fringe, UR Delver (1), Esper Mill (1), and Jeskai Flying Men (1) I've seen being played once or twice, but I don't know how well they did.

>>52006294
Isn't Burn disliked for being almost as low-skill as Bogles? I guess we all gotta start somewhere.

>>52006390
I've got quite a few cards from former Standard already for Stompy. What does Stompy evolve into, Naya Zoo?
8Rack sounds too specialized and gets denied by Sanctity. On the other hand, I hate Jund and Lantern, and exiling my opponent's wincon can end a match quickly. But what can 8Rack evolve into?
BW Tokens seems vulnerable to wrath and prisons, but removal takes care of the latter and I have Zealous Persecution to tilt the board.

>>52006521
>>52006479
Blood Moon looks very nasty against Bant Spirits. Do I really want to go that route?

>>52006631
>>52006704
I've watched many matches on-and-off, but never really focused on a whole game most of the time. I know about metahate, but never really got my hands on a deck and how to answer cards at just the right time.

>>52006515
Well excuuuuse me, princess!

>>52006842
What?

>>52006956
Bant Spirits runs Noble which gets all of your colors under blood moon and you can just fetch basics if you know/suspect a blood moon deck. Blood moon does work against most of the format so that's not particularly relevant desu

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>>52005285
>>52004719
>/tg/ being shit as usual
>unable to recognize vintage-level cards like opal, spellweavers and iso

Stay bad, netdecking shitlords.

B L U E
~MOTHERFUCKIN~
S T A F F

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>MM2017 products involve exclusively new snapcaster mage, with Ranger of Eos and shitty new Goblin Guide as playmats
What is this shit? At least last year had a good deck box.

>>52006956
Burn guy here.
You're half right. Burn isn't super skill intensive, but it's good at doing what it does. On the other hand, knowing where to throw the bolts, when to bait out counter magic, and knowing how other decks work make playing burn not as easy as it sounds. Whichever deck you choose, glhf

God I can't sideboard to save my life

>>52006956
Burn is more interactive than you think, not many people play Leyline of Sanctity and it hurts Jund and Lantern almost as much as burn and 8rack.

Stompy and Zoo don't really share many cards. Tokens is a bad deck but not because of wraths.

Nobody plays Blood Moon. Spirits is still an awful deck though.

>>52007187
>>52007255
I know that Burn has interaction, unlike Bogles which just boils down to what cards you draw and how well your opponent can race.

What does Stompy evolve into then?
Why is tokens bad then?
Why is Spirits bad? I took interest in UW Spirits because I like the idea of being flexible and unpredictable (Flash and countering), protective (Selfless and Hexproofing), and evasive (Flying). I figure since I'm not good at Magic yet, then what if I make Magic harder for my opponent instead with hatebears.

Completely new and I'm going to buy Affinity

How bad is this idea?

>>52003820
Tell me what deck you play and I will show you how shit and linear it is. Go ahead.

>>52007476
Not him but I play Valakut Breach

pls be gentle

>>52007476
I play grixis delver so you can try.

Also take your fucking name off this isn't the legacy general faggot

>>52007476
My favorite deck is Martyr Proc, but I also like playing Eternal Command a lot

>>52007464
Completely new to magic or modern?
I started modern with affinity

>>52007476
Abzan coco

>>52007476
Dredge

>>52007872
Linear shit
>>52007535
Double linear shit
>>52007768
Linear shit
>>52007679
Don't make me laugh

>>52007343
Stompy doesn't evolve into anything, it's a bunch of undercosted green dudes in a like $40 deck. Modern is simply not the format for you if you're concerned about budget.

Tokens is a bad deck because it loses to aggro, combo, and control.

>>52007932
>dredge player unable to think based on different situations and gives same answer every time
who could have guessed?

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Bant Eldrazi Tron guy here. My FNM went for 4 rounds and I went 2-2. I lost to Thopter Sword and Burn and won against Infect and Rakdos Midrange. Overall it was pretty fun to play, especially when I confused the hell out of some people by assembling tron and doing typical eldrazi tron stuff game one and then opening with t1 hierarch into t2 Thought-Knot the next game; it really kept people on their toes.

>>52007476
Bloom Titan

>>52007476
Grixis Control.

What Modern decks are good for just fucking with people? I've been drinking and want to make people mad on xmage

>>52008046
>>52007156
drunk deck bwst deck

>>52008064
Give list pls

>>52008046
Lantern Control.

>>52008046
Lantern pisses people off but I'm not sure how well you could pilot if you're drunk and never played it.

8rack usually elicits some asshurt too. Blood moon decks are also pretty dank

You could just smash burn and get people pissed because "burn takes no skill."

>>52008113
As a former Standardbabby/current EDH autist, I do love burn.

How tough is Breach Titan to pilot? Those look like fun decks. I also can't sideboard for shit, sober or drunk, so fuck a 75

>>52007966
Thats really sweet. Between the fetches, heirarchs and the maps too you can get the right colours fairly easily.
How's casting drowner been going? Seems like with 4 it would be tough, would an endbringer in place of one be worth?
Keep the memes coming friend, it truly is a delight

>>52008082
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/blue-staff/

>>52007966
I can't remember the reason we cut Karn from the deck but I think it should go back in.

>>52008143
There were a few times tonight were I had a Drowner stranded in my hand, but whenever it hit the field it was typically game over; being able to flicker it 2-3 times with Displacer while tron was assembled is incredibly powerful. I'm thinking I'll drop a Drowner and relegate the World Breaker to the sideboard in order to put 2 Endbringers into the deck.
>>52008184
Yeah, I think the deck could definitely benefit from a Karn or 2. Ugin is great and being able to do repeatable one-sided boardwipes is fantastic, but in the matches I lost, especially against burn, he came down a turn too late.

>>52007932
Welcome to Memedern: the linear Format.

honestly, wtf was your point?

>>52008413
Why are you giving him (you)'s he's not even a good shitposter

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>mfw wizards release modernshitters 3 then drop support for the format for frontier in july

>>52008504
Frontier never fired at either gp

Why is dredge allowed?
It needs grave hate to be beaten. Even affinity dies to board wipes and bolts.

Complete bullshit

>>52008744
They literally just banned the strongest dredger in the game.

I know Mono Green Stompy is a meme deck etc, but I noticed that its sloppiness is mainly due to its awkward curve. has anyone tried playing mana dorks in it?

>>52008744
>deck eats a ban because it's too strong and warps sideboards
>is considerably weaker now
>still gets fucked by hate
>can reliably be raced because no lol Neonate ggt t1 into Mom hugs t2
>anon still complains
Not dredge's fault you don't have a good matchup senpai stay salty

>>52008771
I thought that stompy actually had a pretty good curve, so long as you're not playing the manland.
>T1 Experiment/Dryad/Kessig
>T2 Geist/Tusker/Avatar(if Experiment was the T1 play) or another 1 drop + pump
>T3 leatherback or 2drop + pump
>T4 whatever because the highest costing card is GGG.
The main problem with stompy is that it just gets BTFO'd way too easily.

>>52008774
Oh and what decks have a good matchup? Ones that cram 4 rip in the side?

>>52008811
>>T1 Experiment/Dryad/Kessig

so people have been trying the 2/1 wolf?

>>52008811
>BTFO'd way too easily
What do you mean by this?

Is there anything similar to the former Bloom Titan right now? I like ridiculously fragile decks that have the potential to win uncomfortably fast

>>52008850
Bloomless Bloom Titan
Cheeri0s

>>52008819
Lantern bodies dredge and dredge can reliably be raced with aggressive decks now since it's significantly slower, decks that also run mainboard hate are also good. If your dredge matchup is that bad maybe you should consider running the 4of gravehate, it's not like it's only useful against dredge.

It's not dredges fault you have a bad matchup and can't into sideboarding

I am new to MTG and decided to play modern because fuck rotating formats. Anyways, I decided to play Burn and I fucked up and couldn't get my Eidolons when they were $6 so I bit the bullet and bought 4 for $40. Did I fuck up? Will they go down? Also is it worth making my mono red burn deck into Naya burn? I am only planning on playing FNM

This format is boring and terrible

>>52008928
If you play burn you'll be using them quite a bit, but you should have picked them up earlier if you knew you were going to play burn. You can upgrade to Naya over time if you want to have a better deck but since you only play fnm it's probably not a huge deal.

>>52008936
kys

>>51995670
Storm and Amulet are both reasonably priced at the moment.

Depending on what you already have, you could build either for 200-300 dollary doos

>>51996025
8whack goblins

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>tfw only have shitty promo surgical extractions
>don't want to buy regular ones because they got expensive
>mfw playing with inferior art
At least I have stronghold bridges ;_:

>>52008928
Start with the white splash and then when you have more funds move to naya. Naya burn is legit

>>51995585
>barely not good enough

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>>52005876
I disagree

>>52008819
Enchantress. I went 4-0 against Living End and Dredge last month.

>>52009058
For that I still need fetches right. Is there anything I need to buy now that might spike up due to MM3?

>>52009226
>dredge player tries to attack with all his creatures when I have ghostly prison out
>ask him how he plans to pay 20 mana
good times

>>52009235
Boros charm, lightning helix, kor firewalker. Thats probably it.

>>52006124
mardu burn is the frontier version. Its a control deck that gets to play pyromancers goggles, kologhans commands and crackling dooms. Its too slow for modern.

>>52009235
Couldn't hurt to get wooded foothills and the relevant shocks (deck usually runs 2 stomping grounds, 2 sacred foundry)

Arid Mesas will come back to the affordable range a month or so after mm3 drops

>>52009309
>>52009274
Do you guys have a good Naya Burn decklist?

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>>52009523
This is the naya list i had and sold about 9 months ago. Obviously missing the lands;

4 wooded foothills
4 windswept heath
2 sacred foundry
2 stomping ground
6 mountain

Deck was fun. Wish i still had it

>>52009605
also missing the golbin guides

I feel like an idiot but can someone explain Eidolon of the Great Revel to me? I see it all the time in burn decks, and with every card below 3 converted mana surely it would hit you way harder than your opponent

>>51995055
Cryptic Command lets you skip their combat step and bounce your eternal witness so you can do it all over again next turn.

>>52009605
No Arid Mesa?

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/get-hydrated-3/

I'm working on a Hydra deck as a bit of a break from the usual meta. Most games this deck creates a 20/20+ creature in a couple of turns and then wins with the Essence Harvest if not by simply attacking. Unfortunately my FLGS is pretty scrub tier and I feel like im not getting much in terms of skilled opponents or particularly good decks.

tl;dr Golgari Hyda counters, any recommendations? Waiting on some Maelstrom pulses for my sideboard.

>>52009523
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/576414#paper

some lists cut the kitty package but it's up to you man

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I want this card to work so much. Help me make it work.

>>52009700
>>52009622
Because budget. Didnt want to pay for cards that were > $50 a piece

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>meme deck is good enough to beat bogles
excellent

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Shouldn't MM17 be up on xmage soon?


>>52009707
Why are you not running shocks?

>>52010261
but there's no new cards in MM17?

>>52010266
..hence my confusion why it's not up yet

>>52010273
???

>>52010401
i want to draft it

>>52005721
>shadowmoor
weird way to spell modern masters :^)

>>52010612
That anon is right though- the reprint for manamorphose is fantastic. The original is simply okay at best.

>>52009648
>I feel like an idiot but can someone explain Eidolon of the Great Revel to me? I see it all the time in burn decks, and with every card below 3 converted mana surely it would hit you way harder than your opponent
Since burn hits an opponent's life total quickly, they don't care. Same thing with Flame Rift--doesn't matter if it hits you, 4 for 2 is great in a deck that is quickly reducing life total.

>>52005876
I agree, at least you can play around counter spells

>>52008928
Naya burn is bad, wild nacatl is not a good card in this format. It doesn't have haste, gets brick walled by a lot of things and requires you to work to enable it. Atarka command is only good in the heavy creature version

>>52010668
Picture this;
Your opponent starts off with fetch shock thoughtseize.
They take your goblin guide.
You cast lava spike.
Opponent fetches a basic and plays tarmogoyf.
You suspend a rift bolt and cast lava spike. Opponent is at 8. Youre at 19.

Turn 3 cast rift bolt, cast eidolon of the great revel. Opponent is at 5 and any spell they play means that bolt will kill them.

If you cast 2 eidolons when youre ahead on life, you can lock them out from playing anything and just beat down with the eidolons

>>52010983
I think you replied to me mistakenly, but I agree that eidolon is an amazing card and I certainly use it in my burn deck.

>>51996115
Replace Caverns with Islands and it costs pennies.

>>51995055
>Cryptic Command returns Snapcaster Mage
To your hand where you want it? Yes.
>and flashes back Push/Path?
When you flash Snapcaster back in on another turn because you don't have any more mana on hand right now? Yes.

>>51999665
>memes are funny
Back to le Reddit with you, friend.

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How do we make this work in modern?

>>52011301

We don't.

I mean, not outside of meme decks.

>>51995055

Why not BOTH?

>>52011401
But that's just the sort of inevitability control decks need.

>>52011301
There's honestly only one way to make this remotely work.

That is Harmless offering. The problem is what kind of deck you'd fit that in to make it even remotely work.

>>52011536
Why not just Cryptic Command/Bananna command+snapcasters?

>>52011594
Because now you need 3-4 cards that YOU will need to not outright win the game, which makes it a shit combo.

Look at most combo decks.

If you have the pieces, they just outright win you the game.
Not to mention the ammount of mana you would require to pump into Pact combo each turn leaving you wide open to any interaction.

>>52011683
You're looking at it in a retarded way. Cryptic is an amazing card, that outright wins games on its own. This is a synergy between Demonic Pact and Cryptic Command.

>>52011683
>>52011719
Also, "each turn"

Do you know how pact works?

>>52011719
>>52011731
Demonic Pact is a build- around card. You have to run a bunch of sub- par cards just to make it work. You have to run enough card draw to ensure you have pact and requisite pieces. This is now %50-%60 of your deck. Now you need enough lands to make sure you can hit your land drops, because you NEED to cast pact, so 22- 24. Now you have 10 or so slots left over and a sideboard.

However, your game plan doesn t work in the meta. You need to cast pact. You can't win without it. So t4 (maybe t3 with ramp). Then pact needs 4 full turns to get off. So t8 (or 7). Meanwhile every other deck has already beaten you. And on the off chance you DO win, you also gold to sideboard hate. If pact gets removed/countered whatever, you basically lose. If you're hit with surgical extraction, you quadruple lose.

Do you see what I'm getting at here?

>>52011850
No, because you're completely wrong.

Pact is just a high value card that has synergy with Cryptic Command and other bounce spells. It will win you the game eventually if you just bounce it repeatedly. You use Pact to control the board and generate value.

Just slot it in as a control finisher, and then swap some of the removal to bounce.

>>52009721
Jeskai ascendancy. There.

>>52011926
I've been brewing for a while, and I think instead bring to light expertise is the deck.

>>52011901
Great. I'm wrong. Completely and totally wrong. It's not like hundreds of other people were excited to play with it when it was spoiled, spent several weeks or months trying to make pact work, and came to the conclusion that it s a cute card but ultimately fated to never leave the kitchen table.

But go ahead and try it for yourself. No one is stopping you.

>>52010255
List?

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>>52012040
This is the current iteration. I need to tinker with the manabase a bit, too often not having the right color mana

>>52009285
Is it really too slow for modern? Regular red bolts, bump in the night, Boros charm, and helix don't seem THAT bad
Although I do see where crackling doom can be a dead card

>>52012064
I'd personally cut down Llanowars and Marshes for fetches and Woodland Cemeteries and get One shock land.

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>>52012064
>Vault of the archangel
>Gavony township
>Only 2 lands that produce white, not even fetchable
What the fuck are you doing nigger?

If I've only been playing XMage and starting to do some FNM Booster Drafts locally would it be best for me to get into MTGO or purchase physical cards to be competitive?

A chunk of me loves having that sweet sweet tangible deck but the other part of me loves the idea of being able to play when I want online...

>>52012299
Changing the deck constantly. I literally said I'm still changing the mana base.

>>52012330
Maybe you don't have the right color mana cause you're running 2 colorless lands with essentially a zero percent chance of activating them you stupid fucking bitch

>>52012328
Why would you buy into Mtgo if you already play XMage? Don't be dumb anon, and let Wizards jew you out of more money. If you're going to drop a sizeable amount of money on a deck it should always be in paper.

>>52012365
Yeah. Hence why I'm changing the manabase. You seem to not understand this concept. The deck was abzan at one point.

>>52012379
If you're changing the mana base start with the 2 utility colorless lands you can't even use

>>52007980

> Terminate all the things
> Snapcaster and K's Command for days
> Do a Cryptic when you feel feisty
> Make opponent consider suicide

I tried. I love watching a good Grixis Control deck do its thing.

>>52012515
yes, but when someone asked to see my decklist I didn't think I'd have to finish working on the deck immediately just in case someone made fun of me for having a work in progress

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>>52009256
Why go big when you can go prohibitive?

3x prison, 1x sphere is the sweet spot mainboard

>>52009523
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/naya-mixed-burn/

>>52012540
what a fag

>>52011926
Probe is gone

>>51996804
There's a guy on etsy you could order from. They're decent quality so long as they're sleeved. Order them when you can because he has a tendency to hide all of his items and make them unlisted. Just checked and he's findable right now.

>>52005707
This looks kinda cool.

Why play this deck over abzan? What matchups does it make better? How do you deal with tron?

>>52012740
Not that guy but I assume your gameplan for Tron is "board in the artifact hate cards and pray"

>>52012664
Stop it anon, it still hurts.

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>>52012964

>modern thread
>do you like commander
>tripcode

It's like you aren't even trying

>>51999923
Zombie Hunt

>>52013105
You forgot to mention

>Facebook

>>52008886
>Lantern bodies dredge
nah

>>52013440
>tfw don't actually have a facebook
sometimes it's awkward but I feel like it would just annoy me if I did make one.

>>52013477
If lantern bridges on 3 they usually win that matchup

>>52013629
Dredge plays ancient grudge, and lantern doesn't reliably bridge on 3. If you said the MU is favorable for lantern I'd agree, but to say that lantern bodies dredge is stupid.

>>52013763
>Lantern doesn't reliably bridge on 3
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>52013772
The deck Lantern control in the trading card game Magic: The Gathering™ cannot cast the card Ensnaring Bridge on turn 3 every single time.

>>52013836
Yeah and Legacy Reanimator doesn't cast a reanimation spell on turn 3 every time, doesn't mean it isn't doing it reliably, reliably and every single time is different you fucking mong

>>52013865
What % of the games do you think lantern can have a bridge out on t3?

>>52013865
>turn 3
Don't talk about things you have no idea about

>>52013911
Like realistically 65%

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>>52013913
My seas and fetches are in another deck, but I've literally been playing reanimator since probably before you were born faggot

>>52013994
>he plays ub not superior rb

>>52014042
RB is a fucking meme for poor people

>>52013477
Dredge was is one of lantern's best matchups senpai don't talk about things you know nothing about.

>>52013763
Wow dredge plays a hate card that comes in after boarding so hard to beat. Lantern plays grave hate, pyxis to exile grudge and surgicals too, so they can cripple the deck through surgicals/get the hate cards and make it so the dredge player has to fight through bridge and something like grafdigger's cage. The deck plays surgicals's mainboard too so that makes it harder for dredge.

It's obvious you don't know the matchup, dredge was extremely favorably for lantern to the point it's almost trivial.

>>52014057
>tfw thought about getting into legacy with rb
>see this
I'd be better off selling my kidneys for something else wouldn't I?

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>>52013994
I love reanimator but it hates me for some reason

>casual friend wants to see what a OP LEGUHSEE DEK is like
>fetch fetch force brainstorm study petal griselB
>seems like a keeper
>don't find reanimate spell for 6+ turns and die to a literal draft deck

I guess I should just play burn...

>>52014100
Except Dredge can swing lethal on T4. That's before lantern can get a reliable lock off, or empty their hand enough for bridge to do it's thing. Lantern also play 2-3 surgicals MB without a way to tutor for them while dredge can dredge into grudge, not to mention that grudge is instant. I'm not saying that it's not a favorable MU for lantern but saying
>dredge was extremely favorably for lantern to the point it's almost trivial.
is just retarded

>>52014134
RB isn't really that bad. Like it's better than absolute shit. But honestly it's just not as good as ub reanimator. It's just much more all in, and has 0 card selection. The fact of the matter is, is that it's cheap, and it can win, it's nut draws are pretty dang good. All in all though I'd play UB over it any day. But if you actually want to enjoy legacy, don't buy that deck, it's literally win or lose turn 1

>>52014173
it just happens dude. There's always a margin of error for any deck. Burn decks might have a bad night where they muligan down to 4 because they constantly pull all lands or no lands.

>>52014057
It's much faster. Which is what you need. No forcing this spell

>>52014204
Dredge doesn't play the grudge mainboard you mong and dredge's chances of early lethal has been cut down significantly with ggt banned. Your point on surgicals is fucking retarded too "they can't tutor for them" You only need one to cripple dredge enough to slow them down to find a bridge if you haven't already and protip starting hands are usually evaluated on whether or not you have bridge or lantern. You seem to completely forget grafdigger's cage post board too which means if dredge doesn't draw in it's hate (lol) they aren't doing anything.

It's painfully obvious you don't know the matchup man.

>>52007476
Jeskai storm combo

>>52014243
>Much faster
Like a turn at most, it might as well be mono black, cause the only red spell is looting. Like, it's just not that great, yeah it has more play than belcher and oops, but it dies to swords and shit, idk man I honestly don't think that going off maybe a turn earlier is worth cutting yourself off from force of will and brain storm

>>52014237
these sort of games happen way too often though. I feel like I just brick 50% of the time on hands that look great. it's like unless I just have land petal entomb reanimate to slam it on t1 I end up just getting dumped on

and I guess it doesn't help that my local legacy scene has 5 or 6 people who play miracles exclusively, because they are of the mind set that it's a waste of time to play magic unless you play the _BEST_ deck. that's not my conclusion, three of them basically told me that in their own words.

surgical snap surgical and top swap make me cry at night.

>>52014405
Make a goblins deck senpai, goblins shits all over miracles, and it's kind of cheap, fucking do it bruh

>>52014405
I guess you can build jund just to say "fuck you" to them

and >>52014479

>>52014479
Yea but they lost to everything else

>>52014501
Well if everyone plays Miracles then do it you cunt

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>>52014501
do it >>52014519

>>52014633
>>52014633
>>52014633
>>52014633
>>52014633

New thread

>>52014684
>>52014684
>>52014684

Actual new bread

>>52014690
shit thread

>>52014775
>actual op
>shit thread
kys

>>52014840
Seems like everyone prefers my thread to your gay fucking merfolk circle jerk

>>52014920
>post shit thread first
>amazed people post in it
Wow truly amazing, nice to see such a well thought out OP kys

>>52014951
>Anything that needs to be banned/ unbanned
Literally the most retarded faggy stupid needless speculation autism, fucking kill yourself you fucking faggot, go shove your cock into your silvergill fleshlight

>>52015006
>Ojutai's command is fucking trash and if you think your special cause of your retarded "super secret tech" then eat a bottle of aspirin, you disgust me.
What is everyone playing?
Is everyone happy they the 14 year old mono red burn and goblin players are now going to be packing sideboard blood moon?
Do you think any decks are going to make a come up?
When did Elrazi Tron get good, and fucking why?
What are you gonna get for the low low off MM2017
The only thing that can make your thread worse is a "competitive general" and fuck off merfolks resurgence in the metagame is infinitely better than your trash op you fucking shitter

>>52015042
It's just a shame no one gives a shit about your gay thread. Maybe you can make a new thread about how you love to suckle on merfolk penis.

>>52015100
>5 people in your thread
>calling people gay because of a relevant OP
Literally kill yourself child, It's nice to see this is the type of retard that makes garbage OP's like he hasn't been on the site for more than a few days

>>52015118
Why are you so upset that people don't want to suck off your faggot island walking meme deck? Are you really that upset little guy? Jesus, just calm down, there's literally no need for your impotent autistic rage.

How do I into sideboards?

I'm an EDH autist who somehow has enough parts to slap together a couple Modern decks, but I have no clue how to effectively sideboard

>>52015163
You'll have a better chance of having this question answered in a proper modern thread that isn't about to 404 like this one
>>52014633

>>52015192
thanks dawg

>>52015153
>>52015153
You're the one calling someone a faggot for making an actual op and getting assblasted because yours was literal trash

The thread isn't a circle jerk either you fucking mong it's about how merfolk has come back in the current meta

I don't even play merfolk kys

>>52015226
>My op was literal trash
>Everyone goes to that one even after seeing yours
>Not a merfolk circle jerk
>literally just "hey guys how much do you like merfolk, I'm sure excited to talk about merfolk and play merfolk decks, like merfolk, and coco merfolk. I love cock and merfolk"
You need to stop

>>52015274
>>literally just "hey guys how much do you like merfolk, I'm sure excited to talk about merfolk and play merfolk decks, like merfolk, and coco merfolk. I love cock and merfolk"
"Merfolk is back? edition
Playing?

Hating?

Thoughts on the current meta?


Anything that needs to be ban/unbanned?
RESOURCES:
Current Modern Metagame
http://mtgtop8.com/format?f=MO
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern

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Readings:
Merfolk in the new modern metagame
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/merfolk-in-the-new-modern-metagame/"

nice to see you can't read either fucktard, you're the one who needs to stop at least put some fucking effort into the OP the next time your retarded ass makes one instead of the garbage you posted. The only thread I've seen recently that was worse than yours was the niggerspeak unban twin one, but that was probably you too huh?

>>52015329
>niggerspeak
>I'm arguing about how gay merfolk is with a pathetic unironic racist
Embarassing honestly, you should seek help. Your threads are really gay and not interesting, and you're a close minded bigot. You honestly disgust me. It was funny before, but now I realize I'm actually just arguing with an invalid. Get help.

>>52015361
>calling people gay because they posted an organized OP
>I'm arguing with an unironic homophobe
Embarassing honestly, you should seek help. Your threads are really gay and not interesting, and you're a close minded bigot. You honestly disgust me. It was funny before, but now I realize I'm actually just arguing with an invalid. Get help.