Modern Masters Spoilers thread

>>51984025

>The property loses all value with no players.

Then why are Vintage cards worth anything at all?

>Really hope all the boxes don't get hoarded and sold at 500 a piece.
That is EXACTLY what's going to happen.

>>51984091
How many black lotuses exist?

>>51984049
These are literally two of five red mythics in existence. The other ones are Thundermaw, Stormbreath and and Inferno, with the forelast not being in pring range for mm yet and the last not getting released without his brothers.

Red's not getting bent. Red never had any actually good mythics. Most good red cards are burn spells and uncommon/sometimes rare creatures.

>>51984107

I hope the production is high enough where that won't matter

>>51984091

When's the last time a Alpha Black Lotus sold?

Good luck finding a buyer for your super expensive vintage shit.

>>51984091
Glad to see my post quoted.

Vintage is unique because it's supply is absurdly tiny, so any amount of demand combined with collectors wanting stuff like P9 results in thousand dollar cards.

Unless the reserve list dies. There's no telling exactly what would happen then.

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>players shell out a thousand bucks on their modern decks
>WotC reprints every modern staple, plummeting the value of all the card
>redditors rejoice
>demand for new product plummets as players recognize the cards will be reprinted anyways and lose all value
>players start leaving the game en masse
>only whales stay, like Yu-gi-oh players
>MTG dies
>redditors find other games and hobbies to ruin

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>>51984198

>>51984198
>>51984198
>>51984198
>telling people they're redditors for not wanting to spend 1000's of dolars on cardboard
Have a couple (You)'s.

>>51984198
That's a real slippery slope you got there, fucko

Noble Heirarch pls

>>51984249
I said no way they print goyf and lili, but the madmen did it, so who knows

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>>51984198
>cardboard investors finally getting blown the fuck out

>>51984198
>I like to pretend im playing the stock market with a fucking children's card game.
>I get ass blasted when WOTC reprints stuff to make a shit ton of money, because at the end of the day, like they have said a million fucking times, THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE SECONDARY MARKET!
>Seriously, they said this a million times, and i did not believe them because im a fucking idiot.

Man these bitch tears are fucking AMAZING!

>>51984257

I wanna build GW hatebears, resurgence is in so we're almost there

>>51984262
>like they have said a million fucking times, THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE SECONDARY MARKET!
I'm not on the side of investors either, but they've said the exact opposite so far.

If they reprint Through the Breach we good. I don't have a lot of hope for it but who knows. Probably too much to hope for but I'm happy with the set anyway.

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REEEEEPRINT NOBLE

>>51984308
Sorry but I highly doubt only one splice card getting into the set. That mechanic got to shine in og MM and it does not seem like the'll bring it back now.

>>51984144
>These are literally two of five red mythics in existence.

Well that's just factually incorrect. Incredibly so.

>>51984198
Hey shit fuck, go collect Baseball cards if you want an investment. I hear Babe Ruth's will NEVER get reprinted.

>>51984340
The word good got lost there but I think the point still should get across. But yeah, point.

Ekhm.

These are literally two of five good red mythics in existence.

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Set looks pretty great, only thing it lacks is Archangel of Thune, Bolt and Serra Ascedant IMO.

It's a "COLLECTIBLE" card game
Not a "GAME" of collecting cards
What don't you poor faggots understand about that? Can't wait to hoard 500 of these fucking cases to make you faggots all get your orders canceled and have to pay 500 for a fucking pack, worthless cucks

>>51984422
Sure pay 1000 bucks a box only to get your as blown out from under you on the WOTC "reprint", you piece of human filth.

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>>51984198

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>>51984422

>>51984422
You forgot your name, finance faggot

>>51984420
Much rather have lava spike due to the price

>>51984422
>aw shit my smug bait isn't working, let's try an angry one to piss them off

kys my man your bait is weak af

how about you silly cunts start putting "MtG" on the titles of the MtG related threads?

>>51984375
I would argue for Warren Instigator, Purphoros, Koth, and the newest Chandra but you're entitled to your opinion.

>>51984198
WHat about all the people who play mtg because they like to play MTG?

>>51984186
>there's no telling
You clearly know nothing about Vintage. Look at MODO Vintage dumbass.

>>51984422
Also I want to add to this, what have you fucking faggots ever done for wizards? Spent 100 on a booster? Drafted a couple times? You're fucking nothing, you're all fucking worthless, the reserved list is still there for a fucking reason, cause collectors spend 1000x more money than any of you broke penniless faggots with your fucking modern tribal decks. Can't wait until Everyone like me hordes these to the point where Wizards can't ever reprint a card again, fuck all you faggots.

Fom where all these (((rudytors))) are coming from?

>>51984507
Nowhere, it's just bait anon

>>51984198
This isn't entirely wrong; a strong secondary market supports the primary market and keeps it afloat.

The issue is, the secondary market is 'too strong.' The low supply is drastically lowering the demand, much more so than the demand that would be lost "[when] players recognize the cards will be reprinted anyways."

This, by the way, is why WotC is pushing Limited so hard. By reducing the strength of the secondary market, many people will be less willing to buy from the primary market for the sake of pulling a valuable card (lottery pack mentality). If WotC can sell packs as a Limited product, where some of the packs price is represented in the value of being able to play Draft or Sealed (almost like a service), then people will be more willing to buy packs at full price, even though their secondary market value is lower.

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>>51984506

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>>51984506
Nigga you're trying too hard. Christ this bait is visible from space.

>>51984479
Warren instigator only looks good, it never saw any play. It's too expensive at 2
Purphoros is nothing that great. It's commander playable.
I'll give you Koth and Chandra, and even add Oath of the Gatewatch chandra. I'll admit now that I did not consider planeswalkers. Still, they're doing 2 walkers each masters set it seems so that was not an option.

Moreover I hate planeswalkers as a concept but that's just me.

>>51984506
>16000 "Collectors" spend money on the secondary market, which gives Wizards no money directly.
VS
>10 MILLION people whom spend 100 bucks a box per set release, sometimes 2-3 times that.

I want you to do the math investorfag.

So what's left on everyone's wishlists? I'm personally hoping for doubling season and some more burn staples.

>>51984550
NOBLE
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>>51984539

Sure, he's being mean but WOTC just screwed investors badly.

>>51984544
Purphoros is actually played in a T3 modern deck.

>>51984550
If this can drop junk to $1000 I'm buying in. So gimme Bob.

>>51984550
I want to see my playset of Scapeshifts plummet in value. Seriously there are like 4 guys at my store that wanna run R/G Scapeshift, and i don't have the cars to lend them.

Especially cuz im on RUG Spaceshift that that MU is insanely in my favor.

>>51984560
Good. If you want to invest in shit go to the fucking stock exchange, not a trading card game.

>>51984560
It all depends on the printing anon. We still have nothing on how much of this product is being made.

Investors who are really upset about this deserve the wake up call anyway.

>>51984547
>10 million players spending 100 dollars a box
Fucking LMAO, the average customer at my shop spends maybe 50 dollars a fucking year here, and that's hardly ever on sealed product. You're a stupid fucking faggot and have no diea how the real world works.

>>51984550
Finks, chord, bauble.

I already got voice and blood moon, so I'm happy so far. BUT LET'S SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GO.

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>>51984550
Vial is my #1 gimme. They already made Cavern upshifted to mythic, so finishing off Bant Eldrazi isn't going to be as cheap as I was hoping.

Doubling Season would be nice, but it's not really a modern card at all. They should just give it out as an FNM promo to get people in shops.

>>51984609
>my anecdotal evidence means your wrong
Kys my man

I can finally play Modern then?
Which deck is the most cheap? Stompy?

>>51984634
Go look up how much money is spent on sealed product then go look up how much is spent on TCG then we can talk

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>>51984422
Tee hee hee. A mirion thanks, mister Junior Warren Buffett. Thanks to you, soon I will be rich.

>>51984609
Ok shithead, if that was not the truth, maybe not in YOUR shop but at many shops, the MTG would not make anywhere near the amount of money for WOTC that it does.

Seriously go fucking kill your family and yourself. Creatures like you should not be allowed to breed your genetic defect into the human genepool.

>>51984640
Burn is gonna get really cheap with gob guide and it's an actual deck.

>>51984653
Go look up how much money actual players spend on the game vs. investors and then we can talk.

What does /tg/ think of this?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/vincent/the-18-people-you-meet-playing-magic-the-gathering?utm_term=.er52PozVV#.yoZk6Rxzz

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Hey guys, what's happening in this thread?

>>51984640
buy a case of mm17
then make the deck(s) you get the most pieces for

>>51984702
>Buzz feed
Trash

>>51984716
How does Wizard's cum taste, you little bitch?

>>51984718
lmao no

>>51984702
>giving clicks to buzzfeed
no

>>51984716
what the fuck is wrong with this guy's eyes?

>>51984702
archive

>>51984777
They're tired from counting all that money nigga

>>51984716
is Rudy woke to the JQ?
or is he the JQ?

>>51984803

Yeah. It is common knowledge that people that make a lot of money always set up a patreon account. For shits and giggles, you know

>>51984503
The difference between MODO and paper is the reserve list bubble. MODO gets to circumvent the reserve list because it's digital.

According to MaRo and other insiders, not trashing the RL has something to do with some unspoken legal agreement and Wizards not wanting to get sued.

I'd much rather see it gone, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

>>51984550
Noble Hierarch

>>51984198
>players start leaving the game en masse
>Oh no I can play the game I like more, better quit now.
It's like you don't even talk to people you play with.

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>>51984881

>Hasbro, a company worth $12.6 billion, is scared of a few basement grognards and wannabe investors ganging up on them because they reprinted a bunch of cards.

>>51984550

I'd like to see another ravager printing. Lava spike, rift bolt.

>>51984198
>players buying cards are buying them to collect dust instead of with the primary desire to play

I'd say BTFO, but the only collectors these days are storeowners, and they're going to make a fortune charging 100% markup for boxes of Modern Masters anyways.

>>51984550
Merchant Scroll

>>51984881
>HASBRO
vs
>16000 "investors" over an UNSIGNED, UNSPOKEN agreement made 20 years ago.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nigga Wizards doesn't kill the Reserved List because they care about their company image and want to maintain that image.

>>51984878
If you could literally get free money for doing shit that you were going to do anyways, why wouldn't you?

>>51984550
Horizon Canopy

>>51984881
WotC would face no liability from breaking the reserved list.

1. There was no consideration for the promise, so it was not a valid contract or legal agreement
2. The only legal argument for enforcement is promissory estoppel. Collectors would have to show that they relied on the promise of Wizards to their detriment. Damages would be limited to the depreciated card value.
3. Wizards is capable of reprinting cards without lowering market prices, especially in a format with as small a playerbase as vintage and legacy.
4. Prices would actually spike initially for all the new legacy players a broken reserved list could generate.
5. Collectors would have no basis for suit. Because after the reserved list was broken, they would have been able to sell their stock before the price fell.
6. Even if collectors could somehow sue WotC, the amount of money WotC could make by selling legacy staples would far eclipse the value of any lawsuit.

>>51984938
>>51984985
I agree it's dumb as shit they'd be worried about """investors""'.

The public image thing makes sense. But what happens when the majority of their userbase want the RL gone? Would it be a net gain in public image for doing what the majority wants or would it be a net loss due to lost faith in a now antiquated agreement?

>>51985028
I agree with you. I want the RL gone.

Plus, collectors wouldn't take total losses since there will still be desire for the OG cards. Like how old artwork is sometimes worth more, like Urza's Saga Sneak Attack.

>>51985028
literally only retards think that breaking the reserved list could result in a lawsuit. They have changed it before with commons and uncommons and could do it again with no problems except company image and old fag players crying on the internet about how they arn't special anymore for having the only black lotus on their local area fuck em reprint them it wont even lower the price because of fucking nostalgia fucking balance is like 100 for the original and 2 quid for the reprint people are fucking retarded

>>51985018
No, no, you are right. All the oil sheiks have patreon accounts. Same thing with pro athletes and Hollywood actors. Like you said, it's free money.

At some point, you should realize Rudy is taking all of you for fools.

>>51985047
It is not a question of public image.

The RL is good for the business model that Hasbro has established for MtG. The minute that changes, the RL could go away.

>>51985075
The issue isn't really with "investors" I don't think. It's mostly with "vendors". They are the ones who buy tons and tons of sealed product in order to get the latest chase cards, as well as the ones who buy valuable reserved eternal cards for sale. They have Wizards by the balls because they're who they get the most money from, game stores, not places like walmart or whatever. Wizards doesn't want to threaten their bottom line in a big way. Whether or not the fear is warranted or not is another issue, but there's a fucked up symbiotic relationship game stores and vendors have forged with Wizards that really backs them int oa corner. I desperately hope one day the reserved list is abolished so I can potentially get my hands on those cards, but I don't know if wizards has the guts to cut those ties and if they actually can successfully. it's not really about getting sued or anything. Hasbro couldn't lose. But game stores also probably can't survive without purchasing wizards products for sale. So who knows.

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>300 dollars already with 67 sold
lmao good night

>>51985119
because places like TCG are just gunna not buy magic cards and let Walmart pick up the slack with players do you think about the shit that comes out of your mouth sometimes??? TCG will be mad but the cards wont go down in price if anything they may go up due to increased interest in vintage and legacy. like a said if you think a card shop would stop stocking magic to spite wizards especially if they reprinted all the reserved list your are literally stupid and don't know how business works fuck off and die

>>51985158
Like candy from a baby. People are dumb

>>51985119
Wizards could set up distribution networks through online retailers and be fine. Most LGS would probably go out of business if they decided to stop selling magic.

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>yfw everyone who preordered a box for less than 260 gets it canceled

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>>51985177
YFW people whos orders gets cancelled on ebay get that shop shut down

>>51985119
I just feel like if you are a vendor and you are sitting on your underground seas and your mox sapphires and WotC actually announces something like "hey the reserved list is gone we will slowly start introducing reprinting reserved list card into our sets". I can guarantee the value of that guys Seas and Sapphires won't be worthless overnight, they might take a bit of a hit but I think longer term it would actually be more healthy. More investors would start buying them, more players would start wanting them, they would move around a lot more.

>>51984168
>Good luck finding a buyer for your super expensive vintage shit.
Luck? No need for luck. Finding a buyer is extremely easy.

>>51985196
do it then fag

>>51985119
>> They have Wizards by the balls

More nonsense. Hasbro is not scared of them taking them to court. And, in fact, vendors would be ecstatic if Wizards released Vintage Masters, including duals, P9 and all the other ultra scarce stuff. The only people that would suffer are the Rudys of the world, that hold hundreds of duals because some shit they once heard about the stock market. It is true that that category includes some stores, but Hasbro would have zero problem finding places to sell their product i.e. video game stores.

>>51984716
>wearing a porn and sex addict tee

>>51985177
I got mine for $188.

>>51985196
>>51985204
>sell your investment right now because an anonymous internet tperson said to and also called you a fag

>>51985218
Canceled ;)

>>51985229
>cardboard with image painted on it
>no advanced techniques built into the printing to identify counterfeits
>literally anychinaman is capable of making his own, indistinguishable from the real thing
>"""investment"""

>>51985229
its a fucking card game you gay cunt if you think its an investment you deserve them to get reprinted you actual cunt you make it impossible for normal people to play the original game you fag. cant wait for the chinaman to put you out of business

>>51985194
I think this is true but Wizards can't see past Chronicles and vendors can hold that against their throat to keep their investments at top value even if these cards would still be hundreds of dollars even with reprints. I 100% believe that if wizards felt they could, they would get rid of the RL because it's practically free money just waiting to be scooped up and there is no legal ground for anybody to stand against it.

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>>51984507

>rudytors

hearty kek

>>51985113
I hope that will be the case. I'd love to eventually play Vintage

>>51984550
I could definitely use another playset of Finks. Maybe more playsets of Spellskites, too.

I wish they hadn't done Cavern of Souls at mythic. I could use another playset of those as well.

>>51985251
>indistinguishable

toppest of keks, fine chinerman ;^)

>>51985236
>store prices product at MSRP or less
>with super limited shit he will increase price in proportion to "real" value plus local interest
>Magic players haven't been in since spoilers because too lazy to leave house except for FNM
Expecting 20 or more preorders on Friday, but I prepaid so he will not charge me a penny more.

>>51984550

Noble. If it doesn't see a reprint but goyf does I'm going to be pretty salty.

I'd love to see ancestral visions but I'm not holding my breath.

>>51985260
>free money
Sure, but are the short-term gains worth damaging your company's image? WotC is making shit-tons of money on standard sets alone so why would they take any chances?

>inb4 wizards changes the rarity distribution so mythics are now as common as rares, but rares are mythic level
>everyone can afford all of the mythics they want, but rares skyrocket
>format is just as expensive, but with the value on other cards

You fools! It was all a ploy to make Seance $60 a pop

>>51985204
>do it then fag
I have done it and every time I've sold reserve list cards, I end up regretting it. Last time was selling a Diamond Valley and a Moat a few years back.

>>51984640

Go Skred Red.

Blood moon will go down to 30ish. Guide will be dirt cheap, then just get things to throw at the face and call it a deck. Mana base will run you about $20. It's slightly more expensive than just going burn but you'll see more wins.

Talking to a few of my buddies now, buying every case up within 100 miles of Boston, get your packs now poorfags

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So who ordered the horsecock at mythic?

>>51984716

Fucking hate this leech. I'm glad he didn't invest much into the set (or so he claims.)

His tears fuel me.

>>51985263
>planechase
>from 150€ to 50-60€
HAHAHAHAHAH

>>51985365

>Sure, but are the short-term gains worth damaging your company's image?

In the eyes of who exactly?

You're certainly not talking about the playerbase at large, the vast majority either doesn't care or actively wants the RL abolished.

>>51985260
Again with the Chronicles myth. The problem with Chronicles was not that a lot of value was reprinted. The problem was the handful of people that were lucky enough to have AN, Legends and AQ cards had a harder time scalping newer players. The only cards that were even remotely played from Chronicles were Erhnam, City of Brass and Blood Moon. The main problem was the asshole ripping people off with Elder Dragon Legends and the like. Remember, in those days the Internet was in its infancy, there were no netdecking and it took people a lot longer to realize that Kird Ape was better than Shivan Dragon.

>>51985365
>doing something customers have been vocally in favor of for years that also increases accessibility
>damage company's image

>>51984640

Mono-green stompy is pretty damn cheap but also not terribly competitive.

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>>51985259
>you deserve them to get reprinted
I think reprints help the value of my summer cards and test prints.

>>51985413
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY WITH CARDS IF THEY CAN'T ALSO SELL THEM FOR A PROFIT.

>>51985420
delete this

>>51985420

>He was scammed by the grading jew

lmao

>>51985420
Holy shit. I've never even seen those ones on the bottom.

>>51985438
Go try to sell an ungraded p9 you faggot, oh that's right you don't own a card worth more than 20

>>51985420
>not playing these in your EDH deck

>>51985392
Lame

>>51985365
>damaging your company's image

Literally to who. 99% of people would be in favor of removing the RL. The only ones that would complain are collector fags and some vendors.

>>51985438

>Thinking people are dumb enough to spend thousands of dollars on ungraded/unverified pieces of cardboard

ISHIGGY DIGGY DOOT

>>51985438
>He was scammed by the grading jew
Uh... it doesn't cost much to get them graded. I don't see what you're getting at.

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>tfw you invested in records and books instead of children's toys

Always makes me kek to see threads like these.

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Can you guys stop feeding trolls long enough to remind me who Lalor the Obstinate is?

>>51985504
>books
What kind of books? Just like first edition stuff?

>>51985532
First editions, rare books, ex libris stuff, hand-bound etc.

>>51985433
>delete this
why?

>>51985530
Its just random flavor text from C13.

>>51985094
If he's got a shit ton of his money wrapped up into old booster boxes he's probably cash poor. I can't imagine when he's ready to sell it flies off the shelves, so his money stays tied up in it.

>>51985546
How old do the books go back? Like what works you say is the average age of what you collect?

>>51985392
What's the source on this? I'm not seeing her on the spoiler sites.

>>51984107
My store is getting 12 cases from WotC and being offered up to 24 each from 3 distributors.
This thing was printed like 6-8 times more than MM2 and "hoarders" couldn't even prevent EMA from selling for under MSRP.

But I hope they try, the more money they lose the faster the bubble will pop and we'll be back to pre-Alara economy where shit was costed in relation to how much it was used and supply-demand actually meant a shit.

>>51985589
I'm not really into ancient books so most of my stuff is not older than 1900. I've got some real beauties from the 1910s and 1920s, though, which is my favorite time when it comes to literature.

>>51985392
God I love this lady/futa. I genuinely hope I get to draft her some time.

>>51985599

https://twitter.com/ElaineChase/status/837399714886635520/photo/1

>>51985420
That's a beautiful counterspell. Do you know how much one would cost nowadays?

>>51985480
>>51985403
In the eyes of pretty much everyone. Wizards made a promise to specifically never reprint these cards. The moment they remove the list is the moment that they lose all credibility for anything they will say or do in the future.

>>51984547
>people who buy non RL cards as investments
>doing math

Anon, the only people who think they make yuge bank on magic cards are either bulk retailers who don't give a shit about this, or they're people who count notional value rahter than realised value, don't count their time as expenditure and aren't good at gross versus net profit

>>51985640
Funny how no one pays attention to the main page to keep in the loop on spoilers

>>51985675
Wow I wonder who the collector cuck is here

I couldn't tell because you use the exact same argument as everyone else that defends it

>>51984640

mono-black devotion -obliterators + panharmonicon?

>>51984550
Lord of Atlantis, Darkness and Funeral Charm.
Gemstone Mine is already ruled out ;_;

>>51985624
This joke was never funny

>>51985402

I actually got one for 80 in christmas. I know there's an app for the planes, but playing with the actual decks is fun

>>51985251
>>51985259
You dumb niggers are missing the point. It's not about whether it's an actual investment or not. It's about doing something because a fucking retard on the internet told you to do it. Replace the word investment with "cards".

>>51985697
Yeah that's why i said i wanted his stupid ass to do math for once. Because he won't because thinking is like acid on his face to him. He's literally too retarded to walk and chew bubblegum at the same time.

>>51985660
ahahaha
isnt there something like 2 of any one of those cards
those are test prints

>>51985774
Sure, but if you're retarded enough to think magic is "an investment" you're also retarded enough to do things because the internet told you to.

>>51985675
Sticking with a mistake nobody wants is worse.

>>51985700
Wizards has been outsourcing to the community for spoilers for some time now, I think it's part of their outreach program where they help social media entities boost viewership while the channels help provide free marketing. I like it, it's their way of looking less like a cold corporate entity.

>>51985800
Just ask his mother

>>51984560
If you're not a store, you making money with Magic is detrimental to WotC.
WotC is meant to make money with Magic.
Distributors are meant to make money with Magic.
LGS are meant to make mony with Magic.
But you the faggot wannabe doge of wall street, are meant to buy, not sell Magic.

Starcity is sure happy about moving 50 Lilis in a day after having her not move more than 1 piece a month these last 9 months.

>>51985660
>That's a beautiful counterspell. Do you know how much one would cost nowadays?
At least $3k.

>>51985797
Like is I said. Forget about calling it an investment. I'm assuming someone holding onto vintage cards would wait to sell them until they got even more expensive, seeing as how they've done nothing but get more expensive for being on the reserve list, but I don't know, I don't have any vintage cards. That's not the point of the post, Jesus.

>>51985402

I have to wonder why anyone ever takes any advice from Rudy seriously. He just rambles on camera for like an hour and is wrong half of the time.

>>51984881
The only reason the RL is not gone is one WotC stockholder being very fond of the "Legendary $30K game piece" status.
Thankfully, he's old.

>>51985856

He, as many so-called investors, tries to manipulate the market in his favor. He's entertaining, but I would take anything he says with a grain of salt

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>>51984198
Fucking Redditors

have another (You), bitch boi

>>51985094
>actors
>athletes
I'd rather take business advice from a guy that can sell army surplus back to the army than the kind of people who go bankrupt imediately as soon as they stop receiving padded paychecks.
If anything, we've learned Rudy can lose a shit ton of money and make fun of himself about it for our entertainment because he's a scumbag merchant that doesn't only sell cardboard.

>>51985119
SCG people have repeatedly said they'd rather sell 100 Underground Seas for $10 each in a month than 10 for $100 each in a decade, and are tired of not being able to support Legacy's growth anymore because RL pieces have run dry.

>>51985158
You have to open Goyf, Lilly, Snapcaster and two blue fetchlands to pay that box.
Watch these retards open Domri and Past in Flames instead.

>>51985392
They really should have changed the art.

>>51986040
Cool desu

>>51985429
Every reprint has shown "investors" are an extreme minority and WotC wants them out.
You whine and whine and WotC keeps reprinting staples. But Standard tournament attendance goes down 15% and WotC panics and starts handing out givemedats.

They want players, not leeches.

>>51985420
I wish magic cards were formatted like that counterspell and the future sight cards.

>>51986040
>good luck stopping me im behind 2 vensers and a snapcaster

>>51986116
NO SHUT UP REEEEEEEE BUY MY 100 COPIES OF MIDNIGHT OIL IT'S BROKEN

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>>51986145
>mfw I beat a guy running Midnight Oil and Combustible Gearhulk by bouncing it and letting him draw so he could burn himself

>>51986116
>givemedats
its spelled gibsmedat
but also cards arn't free

>LGS just changed their pricing of preorders from $220 to 10% off final price
>and retroactively changed their preorders before this

I mean... at least I'll get 10% off but this is pretty fucking Jewish.

>>51986346
Is that even legal?

>>51984198
>>demand for new product plummets as players recognize the cards will be reprinted anyways and lose all value
But that's wrong

>>51986361
to be fair, I havent actually received the product yet and I'm sure there are laws to protect stores from things like this.

they told me they would just put the $220 toward the rest of the price when it drops. I'm still salty about it, though.

At least I won't have my preorder cancelled.

>>51985413
>also increases accessibility
Will it really, though? Previous Modern Masters and Eternal Masters sets haven't helped accessibility all that much for those formats, why do you think it will be different with a potential Vintage Masters? Remember that the amount of vintage staples currently in existence is probably only a fraction of the amount of modern staples was prior to MM, so they would have to print the everloving shit out of those cards.

Well, since I can't even afford Standard. let alone Modern/Eternal/Vintage, I don't really care if they do away with the RL since the cards will stay out of my league even if they decreased to 10% of their current price. I just think it's highly unlikely that a company like Wizards will break their own promise just to promote a long-dead format that only a select few people can play.

>>51985612
This is going to seem really out of place and strange but you've given me a bit more drive to finish my novel.

>It'll still be shit but you can't go in at 240 pages and just stop, right?

>>51986525
Anon, I know that feeling. Kind of makes me want to pick up writing again.

Well, wizards is probably banning mox opal, otherwise they'd have put it here.

>>51986584
To be fair, fuck Affinity is always the right answer

>>51986584
They didn't really print any affinity in this set.

>>51985766
It's not a joke.

>>51986346
Sue them.

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>>51984198

>>51986517
>Will it really, though? Previous Modern Masters and Eternal Masters sets haven't helped accessibility all that much for those formats
The only people who say this are the fags who insist that if they can't play Jund/Shardless BUG for $10 then they can't play.
MM pushed our local Modern community from 12 o 90, MM2 let a lot of those build a second deck. EMA also increased the attendance of Legacy and Commander events ridiculously. The simple fact that a playset of Wastelands is now half of what it was a year ago made the format accessible for people who want to play rather than complain.

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>tfw your legs is a pretty cool guy and is honoring all his boxes he sold at 200, but has since stopped taking orders till shit pans out

>>51985675
>> I am never buying anything from these guys again, because if at some point it is worth $500, they might reprint it.

What are you? 12?

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>>51985955


Stay stupid.

>>51985382
with the reprints if I wanted to buy a playset of the old art goblin guides what would be a reasonable price range?

>>51984716
why would he buy all that shit and not sell it when it is in standard rotation? Most of the cards lose all value, he'd be further ahead just to hold onto the eternal staples

>>51986756
Same here. I feel kinda bad for him honestly because he's competing with another GS two blocks away.

>>51985530
that card looks like shit
why is it rare?

>>51985856
>He just rambles on camera for like an hour and is wrong half of the time.
sounds like every piece of "investor" media ever

>>51987124
Draft. Also that was ina Commander precon at one point.

>>51987124
Because death's shadow is the hot new meme

>>51987124
Sadly only because it's very good in limited if you're in Naya.

>>51987159
Can you imagine the butthurt if you cast this to remove a Death's Shadow?

>>51987264

no because it means you didn't use a fatal push and save yourself 2 mana and them life. The only time it's good is when they have a deaths shadow under 5 power anyways and you can like 3 for one them with it.

>>51987419
>push
>in naya

nigga

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>Looking at new guys trade binder
>See a foil original Ravnica Hallowed Fountain
>Wow that's cool, you can take a look through my binder, anything you want for that card, I'd really like to have one
>Nah I'm all set, that one's not for trade
Well get it out of your fucking trade binder you worthless fucking faggot

>>51985382
Blood moon will go down to 15 m8

is that butthurt investor faggot still here?
get a real job lmao

>>51987546
not everyone has seperate binders for collection and trade anon

>>51986584
1. It was printed in MM2
2. No affinity this set
3. You're a fucking shitposter kill yourself ban babby

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>>51984049
>tfw red player seeing these mythics

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>>51984361
>mfw people complain about potential Honus Wagner reprints
Fucking ATC pandering to these "investors"

Who is responsible for MM3?!?! This set is beyond amazing (as long as the print run is good)? This goes against so many WOTC principals. Who is then person/team? They deserve adulation for this momentous achievement!
Modern is reborn!!!

>>51987811
Maybe he can sell his foil fucking fountain and buy one

>>51988228
>Modern is reborn!!!
It's not going to have any impact on card prices whatsoever.

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>>51987546
>this rectumragnarocked that you're a fucking pleb

>>51988228
Enjoy autists playing wall street with children's card games hiking prices because they hoard sealed product.

>>51987546
You probably vaped all over his card and scared him away. Did you try tipping your fedora? It lures newbies into trading

>>51988273
>Me a pleb
Why would someone do this? I have Lions Eye Diamonds, Underground Seas, Trops, foil tops, gaea's cradles, fuck plenty of shit I don't use in my decks, I don't put them in my trade binder to swing my magic fucking dick around like I'm hot shit.

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>>51988264
>It's not going to have any impact on card prices whatsoever
That's good to hear.

>>51988316
None of those are being reprinted though (((rudytor)))

Enjoy getting burned on the modern specs though cocksucker, you knew the risks lmao

>>51988316
>Foil Thoughtseize REPRINTS in a graded case.

Man investorfag really are fucking stupid. Sweet fucking Chirst.

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>>51988343

>>51988351
Original foil printings don't drop you cuck, you should already know this. If anything they sometimes spike

>>51988356
>Enjoy getting burned on the modern specs though cocksucker, you knew the risks lmao
It'll go back up. It always does.

>>51988363
Nice Magic dick bro, you lose points for your shitty foil theors thoughtseize though, wouldn't wipe my ass with those.

>>51988363
>10 dollar card, rated 8
why bother, or am i missing something?

>>51988390
Not with this print run it won't :)

>>51988360
>Foil Thoughtseize REPRINTS in a graded case.
I liked the newer art. So sue me.

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i wanna drop on this deck but i am scared of buying unnecessary fetches and wasting money. anyone have any advice for balancing my mana base? five color is difficult

>>51988396
>Foil
HUURRRRR

>>51988422
If you can't build your own manabase you don't belong in the format

http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/frank-analysis-how-many-colored-mana-sources-do-you-need-to-consistently-cast-your-spells/

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>>51988396
>why bother, or am i missing something?
How do you know the grades before sending them off?

>>51988363
>thoughtsieze reprint
>a like 10 dollar brainstorm
The foil daze are nice but not enough to grade them.

>>51988422
Here's a tip on how to not have an expensive mana base, don't fucking make it 5 colors you tremendous retard

>>51988351
>>51988460
Buy a better camera you fucking massive faggot.

>>51988417
>You liked the art.

Don't become an investorfag. You will never be able to make money off of it. Please use your money for a better cause, improve yourself maybe.

>>51988460
>khans
I might consider wiping my ass with them they were 10's but apparently you can't afford a decent camera with all the money you spend on children's card games you jew.

>>51988479
He can't, he spent all his money on cardboard ;_;

It'd be nice if Wizards sold MM to big box stores so I could actually get a box or two for MSRP.

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>>51988460
>>51988363
>>51988351
>he wants to show off his pretty toys
>he doesn't get a quality camera

>>51988463
go play rdw pleb

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>>51988479
>Buy a better camera you fucking massive faggot.
If it pisses you off, it's worth keeping.

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Remember that is all about excitement, you would hate to open a bad mythic anon

>>51988427
wel derp, didn't see due to lightning
>>51988460
well the thing was you're sending away a 10 dollar card, but nevermind since it's foil and worth more. enjoy your imaginary epenis

>>51988492
>improve yourself maybe.
?

>>51988523
Seems to be working just fine.

>>51988351
>>51988363
>>51988460
The only reasonably impressive cards you have are the Ports. Everything else doesn't even add up to a Modern Jund deck you broke fucking cuck, post some good shit or get out

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>>51988533
>enjoy your imaginary epenis
Is it imaginary if it elicits real butthurt?

>>51988526
>Has Graded Thoughtseize reprint.
>Has Libraries/Factories/Bazzars/Tabernacles sitting in a simple double sleeve.

Man i wish i had that kind of money to just ruin.

>>51988563
Nice Chinese cards lmao

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>>51988356
>(((rudytor)))
>tfw someone is using my meme
Feels good

>>51988525
Go play have an actual job so you can afford things, pleb

>>51988563
>White Bordered Power

Nice fakes bro.

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>>51988569
>>51988579
>mfw these dumbasses get so mad that someone has better cardboard than them

>>51988586
>mfw this (((rudytor))) is so desperate for attention he posts chinamen fakes to stroke his epeen

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>>51988565
>Man i wish i had that kind of money to just ruin.
The legacy/vintage stuff is playable, though.

Just trying to have fun, man.

>>51988573
go play slave sim so you can buy cardboard of greater value and feel alright about yourself on the internet

>>51988602
Y'know what nvm. If you want to ruin you money go ahead. I'm just baffled as to why you would collector seal reprint Thoughtsiezes and not all of that power/RL stuff.

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>>51988563
>White Border P9

>>51988615
I own my own business and love my job, stay poor pleb ;)

>>51988630
>I'm just baffled as to why you would collector seal reprint Thoughtsiezes and not all of that power/RL stuff.
I was just sending shit in to do it (see how grading went). The other cards are playable, so why seal them away?

>>51988631
>White Border P9
Just as playable as alpha/beta.

>>51988655
Ah well if that's the case good for you then.

>>51988655
>Just as playable as AB
Yeah, and a tricycle is just as drivable as a Ferrari

>>51988526
GIVE WORKSHOP

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>>51988689
>sour grapes

>>51988698
Shops is trash after lodestone desu

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>>51984144
>hurr durr im retarded

>>51988689
>Yeah, and a tricycle is just as drivable as a Ferrari
That's an extremely poor analogy.

>>51988715
I only play EDH

>>51988715
>I have never played Magic the Gathering: the post.

>>51988713
I have Beta P9, don't care if you don't believe me, and I'd have Alpha if people with it weren't kikes. It's all right dude, all the foreign people have white bordered P9 at tourneys, you'll fit right in.

>>51988718
>That's an extremely poor analogy.
Fitting.

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Is that all you got, /tg/?

Come on... I want more tears.

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>>51988786
>All this white border power
>Trying to impress people on the internet with maybe 20k in carddboard, that you probably had when it only cost like 3k
>Implying anyone with money actually cares

>>51988786
Eh good for you. I wish i could afford to play that, but eh?

>>51988814
>realizes I bought most of these cards a while back
>not a broke fag
Yeah, you're not my target audience for rustling.

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Please

>>51988916
too good in limited :)

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>all these incredibe expensive cards
>I just have a really good time with a friend playing casual singleton
Feels good

>>51988950
>Feels good
You're doing it right then. That's all that matters.

>>51988950
Please don't ever become an imbittered asshole like the rest of us.

>>51988950
but is he having a good time with you? Or is he just acting like it?

>>51988460
>getting your KHANS fetches graded
>they're $60 fucking dollars

I love this site, I've seen wonders you wouldn't believe...

>>51984716
This guy looks like the lowest form of human life.

Hey. Haven't played magic in years. Only posted because griselbrand. Still have the original copy from Avacyn (pardon my spelling) restored. Are they doing a new print?

>>51989016
He's the one who told me about it so yeah, probably

>>51989040
Yes

>that Serum Visions art
fucking nice.

>>51989049
Sick

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>>51989071

>>51989086
>No, this is New Phyrexia!

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>>51989021
>I love this site, I've seen wonders you wouldn't believe...
Glad I could help.

>>51989086
>moshi, moshi!

>>51988563
You have the Spanish white bordered Cripta de Maná!! Lol

>>51989086
I still think they'll pull blighted or glistener in for funsies.

Because of Krosa, anything is possible

>>51989086
I think I'll get myself a playset of those despite already having 4.

THEY JUST LOOK TOO FUCKING GOOD

>>51988786
>le jimmies xd so mad
Go be retarded somewhere else this is a spoiler thread.

>>51989086
Damn that art makes me diamonds. Old s visions was vanilla as fuck.

Finally, some decent snapcaster art. Chubby Asian and le soccer man were both fugly as shit.

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>>51989086
fucked up the crop

>>51989148

>not wanting Dunkcaster

pleb

>>51989086
Goddamn I miss having the Phyrexians around

>>51989132
*snorts heavily and upvotes while chortling*
That made me exhale slightly harder than normal, you glorious bastard! I nearly spit my black coffee all over the screen!

Edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
Edit 2: Gee, my highest voted comment is about my breathing habits. Thanks, guys.
Edit 3: Wow, this really blew up! I'm turning off my notifications for now. Thank you all so much!

>>51989086
Future versions will discuss how the serum is derived from pinkmoths and clydemoths. WAKA WAKA WAKA

>>51989148
>hating tiago
Absolutely disgusting

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>>51989145
>Go be retarded somewhere else this is a spoiler thread.
Sorry, was just trying to have a little fun.

>>51989100
>Gee Jin? How come Norn lets you stick three serums at once?

>>51989190
Is this really how redditors post?

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>>51989204
Spoilies only no rogue shitposting

>>51989109
time to die

>>51989086
This guy looks like a Xenomorph-Hydralisk injecting itself with Plasmids.

Put me in, coach.

>>51989183
i miss all the COMPLEATting.

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>>51989228

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>>51989228
>>51989275

>>51989275
>>51989295
*holds up spork*

>>51987057
He waits years when the boxes creep up in value, then flips them for max capital

>>51988526
Who harmed you, my child?

>>51989347
>you do something!
>therefore you were abused as a kid
Cram your pop psychology up your ass

>>51989319
>Collects boxes of MtG and never touches them for years just to sell them at high ass prices
>He doesn't even open them
>He probably doesn't even play the fucking game
>It's all just cardboard gold to him
Literally the lowest form of jew

>>51989385
B-but he's rich anon
You should be jelous of him!!!!!!

>>51989385
I'm a seller in the same general area as Rudy. We get together once a month to drink booze and play Magic with the other guys in the area/some friends. He loves the game, although he refuses to play with cards created post-1995. He absolutely loves card and board games. It just so happens that Magic makes him the most money.

>>51989444
>trips of truth

>>51989444
>play Magic

When he showed us his "deck", he bragged about how awesome it was to Swords to Plowshares his own Triskelion to gain life, and then bring them back with Argivian Archaeologists. He also explains how, when he was low on life, he tapped 2 Workshops, brought out Mirror Universe, and on the same turn, he would pop it to exchange life totals.

Motherfucker hansn't played 2 games in his life.

Also, eat a dick.

>>51989530
>he falls for the memes
Do you honestly believe Rudy isn't playing a character in those videos? It's entertainment.

>>51989444
>he refuses to play with cards created post-1995
So not only is he a jew, he's also an autist

>>51989444
hey rudy

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>lgs selling boxes for 216 after taxes
pull?

>>51989554
>Entertainment
If you find his autism entertaining then I feel sorry for you

>>51989568
buy all of them

>>51989145
>Old art was vanilla as fuck
Speak for yourself, I liked sexy nerdy midriff-baring Neurok.

>>51989580
Only one per person and locals pickup only, sadly.

>>51988530
He's right though, if you don't rarity shift, you run out of value mythics real quick. Remember the bulk red mythic in mm2?

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>>51989347
Let me tell you about my mother...

New thread
>>51989622
>>51989622
>>51989622
>>51989622
>>51989622
>>51989622

>>51989558
He is pretty autistic. He won't play Monopoly unless he's allowed to be the iron figure.

>>51989574
You're the one we should be feeling sorry for. You're putting way too much thought and effort into this.

>>51989554
Not there. Every time he says even remotely game related, he honestly has no clue.

>>51984560
If you invested in a format created to counter-act the reserved list BS, you deserve to be BTFO.

I'm glad wizards is finally making good on their promise to make modern more accessible.

>>51984609
You must run a failing shop anon. I spend $50+ a week at my local shop, and all I do is draft.