Song of Swords: Aftermath Edition

FUCK reverse hammers
It's because reverse hammers are so weak that everyone and their dog takes reverse spikes for every swing slot add-on, and reverse spikes give everyone the OP hook maneuver. Reverse hammers should be less crap and also nerf hook.

>>51961868
The only thing they really miss out on is hook, as most armors have worse AVB than AVP, and they have that delicious shock.

>>51961907
Nope. You said words that sound pretty but they're not really true. The shock is not meaningful since most weapon with swing slots have shock anyway. Hook is OP so no one things twice about getting a spike.

>>51961843
Rules for the new tournament: https://paste2.org/W6ztXUUP

The First Female Iconic is mine for the taking! All hail your new Raven Hair Grutte Zweihander Wielding Waifu!

>>51962148
pics or gtfo

>>51961843
You didn't get the entire KS link.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2006613790/song-of-swords-tabletop-roleplaying-game

>>51962252
Or the Plebbit. It's missing a ds on the end.

>>51962156
SoonTM

>>51962299
Can't wait to fap to your waifu in 2021

>>51962271
>>51962252
And the rest of the Mediafire and roll20 links. How the hell did this happen when the stuff after copied perfectly?

https://mega.nz/#F!S89jTT7J!ozFi9GvzaFGHfBa59Ik2-Q

https://app.roll20.net/join/346755/hRKd4w

>>51962076
Did someone new offer a lore spot? Or is this just for fun?

>>51962350
Yeah whats the prize?

>>51962363
The prize is fun.

>>51962076
>Allowing Oricalcum and Silversteel but only up to their limit. I think we are going to see some fine Armor hoboing This time around

>>51962394
poorfag homeowners need not apply

Turtles and Snails only

>>51962379
How do you quantify the fun to give though?
Are you going to donate the fun to my account, or do you hire the fun to strip at my house?

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>>51962312
She looks forward to bullying you

>>51962461
Alternative name for that should be "Tall 2 Women vs Short 2 men"

>>51961843
Oi cunt, you fucked up the reddit link. I don't know how to use anything but 4chan, so now what do I do?

>>51962461
Is she a soft shade of brown too?

Q&A When?
Also shafts(wooden, weapons), should probably be a bit harder to destroy? Like, have you ever tried hacking into a proper shaft with a sword?

>>51962945
I want options for metal shafts.

>>51963029
I've always figured fine forging represents langets and the like.

>>51962644
Obviously

Jimmy's LLC video is actually legit the funniest thing I've seen in a while. The idea of analyzing crazy shit that happens in Kojima games from a legal perspective is funny as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F77CBGVH1g

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Fucking finally. The money arrived on the prepaid CC. Now to go blowing it on SoS.
Yay!
Jammu had my first ever KS pledge.

>less than $500 to the next stretch goal
Opaque are going to be staring down the barrel of that mystery stretch goal before they've even announced what it it.

>>51963984
You're right let me withdraw my $300.

Did the Byzantines ever start wearing plate? If not, why not?

>>51964148
Expensive to all shit, slow to make, and not particularly more useful at the time, most weapons couldn't do shit against byzantine heavy armor anyway so why double your expenses for a mediocre gain? Same reason why segmentata went out of style. Also by the end of it all they were relying heavily on mercenaries too.

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>>51952427

Not going to lie, I'm pretty autistically happy that my autistic question about honey was referenced in the latest Kickstarter update.

Also, is this what one of the Kaselreich Burdinadin would look like?

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>iconic waifus gone in under 24 hours
Hmmm.

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>>51965110
I've just let mine go, my collaborator can't afford it.

By all means, go ahead.

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>>51965287
Nah I'm not interested in forcing my shitty taste in PCs on poor schmucks buying the adventure book.

>can't afford it
It's only 300...

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>>51965317
>only 300

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>>51965328
I mean I could understand if you just meant you weren't prepared to blow 300 on a kickstarter like most people aren't prepared to blow 2k on a mobile workstation because they don't need it and probably don't want it that much, but can't afford it?

>>51962076
Is the tournament going to allow surrenders? I need to know if making my Saga Arc 'Convince a Competitor to Buy Me Dinner' is something that's doable.

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>>51965357
Kinda hard to afford $300 when Capitalism has you working for hourly wages beneath the poverty line.

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>>51965363
Sounds more like a Glory Arc.
Also, Saga Arcs are party-wide, no?

>>51965379
>capitalist dogs
Every time. Have a charity screencap.

>>51965405
Not if it's a party of 1 and the Saga ends when the Tournament is over.

>>51965317
>>51965357
We're both students and neither of us are employed perhaps can't afford was the wrong wording but "Will not be able to maintain our current lifestyles for the rest of term." is more information than you probably wanted anyway.

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>>51965438
Oh okay.
Good luck with your studies.

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>>51965447
Thanks! Microspheres are a bitch!

>>51965287

>yoink

Drunken pirate waifu confirmed

>>51965379

Sure beats communism working you for bread crusts and not getting shot.

>>51965635
Or we could just invest in automation and employ a universal basic income, make college free, and reap in a new golden age of me not having to join the military to afford a surgery.

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>>51965616
Valkyrie waifu when?

>>51965635
Actually, pure communism failing generally is either a problem of the zero-return trap (i.e. you'll get everything as charity anyway so you're not motivated to work hard) and the problem that we're not actually post scarcity. As it currently stands, the ridiculous welfare level in Nordic nations comes close to communism.

>>51965673
Automation has a fundamental problem, and that is the problem that either everyone who is not a skilled worker (read: researcher or engineer type) or a creative worker (writers, artists, moviemakers, gaym makers) become immediately obselete, at which point the people on top will beg the question "why the fuck do we need to pay for these people".

Man im glad i picked up my Elf waifu this morning. Didnt think that'd start a chain reaction of yall buying them up

>>51965719
That's why you make college free, too, so they can get learned up. But most importantly so I don't have to die to commie flak over the South China Sea.

>>51965719
There are a bunch of grunt level $15 perbhour jobs youll never be able to fully automate out of existence because you need a dude to go stand out there in the field. I dunno why anyone would do this job if they were already getting that level of money for free though

>>51965719
>"why the fuck do we need to pay for these people?"
Universal basic income is not often referred to as a bribe to not revolt but it is and there's nothing really wrong with that so long as you can sustain it and try to refit the populace to face in a new and useful direction.

What would be a neat 2spooky5me curse for a ship? I'd rather avoid the Pirates of the Caribbean style of turning sailors into monster-slaves.

>females all gone
>still 2 males left
...could it be that the reason why you have so many female characters in games where they might not fit the setting is due less to feminism and due more to people being more fond of writing up girls?

>>51965737
>college free
You don't fucking understand anon. Being learned up means fuck all. Do you think 90% of the population have what it actually takes to become an actually skilled worker not in charge of menial busywork that can be automated? A good half of wall street is unnecessary employees even today, most finance grunts just push around excel boxes and do rote transactions all day long.

>>51965754
>you need a dude to go stand out there in the field
You mean waitresses and criers and shit? The stuff Japan is working on right now?

>>51965763
>Universal basic income is not often referred to as a bribe to not revolt but it is
The point is that 95% of the population is both powerless and useless under automation. Presuming EVERYONE is automated, that's fine (but then humans in general are obselete and we may as well kill ourselves), but when you have a few humans on top who are still useful and a load of others who are not...
Now, if you don't implement a basic income but implement a basic supply, that's different. Some things under automation are basically post-scarcity. Money is no longer needed for those things.

>>51965673

I've got no qualms with a fat welfare state, so long as it at least makes an effort to preserve market forces.

>>51965676
People can be induced to work. The real problems are organizational. Without a market you can't accuratly set prices or effectivly abandon strategies. You end up with inefficiencies in the system like Italy importing shitty soviet cars by the shipload just to melt them down for the cheap high quality steel.

And as funny as dumb shit like that is, millions due if it happens in the wrong industry.

>>51965814
>People can be induced to work.
For what? No extra income or extra welfare? Remember what Marxism entails. You get all your shit for free and you work out of goodwill to the community.

>accurately set prices
MARKET prices. The Market price has nothing to do with the true price because the fundamental point of the market is that there IS no true price. Communism pre-assumes post-scarcity as a condition, that is to say, all things under a market have a price of 0. This is obviously stupid, but it's how it works.

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>>51965834
It'll be okay. It'll all be okay.

>>51965405
Pffff, Japanese wouldn't even know I'm Russian. Europeans think I and my sister are Scots for some reason.

>>51965802

Whenever it takes damage the natural groaning and creaking of the wood and rope start to blend together into a sound uncannily like a beast moaning in pain. the wood around its portholes starts to give forth it's resin giving the appearance of a row of weeping eyes.

It's best to go belowdecks only in pairs or groups when the the ship is like this until it can be put into port and repaired, for sailors or passengers who are doen there by themselves will sometimes vanish without a trace.

Yet sometimes such a sacrifice may be called for, for whenever the ship takes someone in this way, its damages will begin to 'heal', planks twisting themselves back into position and growing like living wood to replace that which was shorn away, until whatever was damaged is perfectly repaired. Albeit usually with a smattering of tiny leafy twigs and branches growing out of the fresh wood that will need to be trimmed back.

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>>51966007
Does your sister have any idea?

>>51965805
>But when you have a few humans on top who are still useful and a load of others who are not...
That's why shrinking population in developed countries that work on automating more and more is actually a good thing and not the end of the world.

>>51965834
>For what? No extra income or extra welfare? Remember what Marxism entails. You get all your shit for free and you work out of goodwill to the community.
I would actually love to learn how traditionally work with wood. With jointing and stuff. That's something that I don't have the time and money for right now, since I have to study to be in a position that I have good chances for a Job later.
If there was universal income, I might just try it out and may end up making my own furniture.

>>51966024
Yep, we were traveling together

>>51966068
>I would actually love to learn how traditionally work with wood.
So would most people, but this pre-implies post-scarcity, which isn't true right now.

>>51966107
>So would most people, but this pre-implies post-scarcity, which isn't true right now.
Yeah, I'm well aware of that. I just wanted to point out that probably many people would like to work at something even if they don't have to in answer to
>>People can be induced to work.
>For what?

But true, unless there is post-scarcity it's a bit moot. If everybody had universal income in a non PS society they would probably not work hard enough to sustain that society.

>>51962379
Well I hate that shit, I won't be participating.

>>51962076
Please fluff surrenders to not have the loser die.

>>51961843
>kickstarter and reddit links and maybe some of the others are broken

>>51966011
I like it!

I can't wait for the Q&A. I have *VERY* specific questions about zellislava that need answered.

Did Jimmy actually market somewhere? We're having a high day in terms of funding today.

Remember when Jimmy used to A the Qs we had in this thread?

>>51967107
Waifu slots got bought up.

>>51965805
No when i say in the field i mean in the field. You know outside. Scaffolds need to be built, flanges tightened, fugitive emissions sniffed, tanks cleaned, machinery operated

>>51967098
Well I >>51963765 finally got to shove my gm+ in. Nothing to do with marketing in my case. And I think the update (I guess people that just follow the KS and have not backed yet get notified on them?) and Iconic Visionary did also do their part.

If Matt Easton mentioned the game or did a video on tabletop games in general where he mentioned the game, that would translate to thousands of dollars and probably a stretch goal or two. To that end, I've made a comment on his latest video, which I'd recommend folks interested in shilling go ahead and upvote, and maybe comment on if you've something to say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k01b7_7Puzk&lc=z12wi14ozk2xdhlad04cc35opuzngz0hybc

Even if he doesn't make a video, seeing it mentioned in a highly rated comment may get some people's attention.

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>>51967145
All of those are able to be automated, what the hell you on about? They're not feasible right now but machines are already semiautomated compared to 50 years ago. Fuck, farming tractors things like bulldozers / tow trucks can be automated completely, the main reason why they're usually not is for safety reasons these days. Even cars are being automated.

>>51967193
Matt Easton only really talks about stuff he knows though. It might be better to go after someone like Lindybeige or Skallagrim.

>>51962076
>3) You may only gain -5 Points from Banes. For example, normally if you have 1 PCP in Banes, then take Honor (-15) Severed Limb (-15), you have 15 Boon Points to spend. With this change, you only have 5 Boon points to spend. In a similar setup, you have 5 PCP in BB (5 Boon Points), and take the same banes, as wells as Wanted (-5). Normally, that's 25 total boon points, now it's only 20.

Shouldn't that last one be 10 total boon points? You get 5 from PCP and you can only get up to 5 more from taking Banes. So 5+5=10.

>>51967193
To be extra trolly, make this comment on Jake Norwood videos.

>>51967330
He does YouTube?

>>51962076
>5) You may not buy more Orichalcum or silversteel weapons, though armor is allowed, and you cannot purchase more of such items than their respective Limited Supply Number.
Oh well that's great. Armor doesn't have a limited supply number. We can take as much as we want.

>>51967330
Don't fucking do that. There was already copyright drama. Don't drag him back in.

>>51962076
>Set the next tournament in the bronze age
>Everything is heavier and more expensive

Would this help?

>>51967200
You've never done any of those jobs if you think they can be automated cheap enough to even bother lol. People are so cheap its easier to just pay two extra guys 70 hours worth of pay than it is to rent equipment.

>>51967574
>farming tractors
>not rented
Motherfucker even chinese villages in bumfuck nowhere with near-0 labor costs are renting tractors these days. And you're retarded.
>it's not feasible right now
>haha they will never be automated!
Guess what artisans thought in the 1300s.

>>51967611
>>51967574
Jesus christ. If you're going to do this, at least use SoS analogies.

>>51967611
Its cool that you think a robot will be able to find 50 year old pipe buried in the Louisiana swamp, dig a 2 by 2 hole, tie a strap around it and then gently tug it free of its earthy prison being careful not to break its asbestos covered exterior or loose the stored product within.

>>51967767
>find 50 year old pipe
Not difficult to program if you know what you're looking for.

>dig a 2 by 2 hole
Literally 1st semester lecture #3 robotics course tier.

>tie a strap
Incredibly easy.

>gently tug it free ... loose the stored product
The main problem is handling; robots are less dextrous than humans, for now, because they lack a sufficient feedback mechanism and are usually not programmed to care about spatial adjustmen. Do you think it's impossible?
I mean it's cool that you think robots will be able to create a designed shirt that has thousands of threads and miniscule weaves back and forth. Impossible right?

>>51965676
Communism in what sense? It sure as living fuck isn't a classless stateless society, and everyone sure as fuck isn't enjoying the "fruits of their labor," the state is ENORMOUS in Denmark (600% tax on cars wew) and the huge taxes increasingly go to stupid shit that nobody wants. The same is true everywhere in Scandinavia, especially in Sweden where this is looking like it is actually going to start social crisis.

It's better than a lot of other places but Communism in the Marxist sense has never been further away in Scandinavia, the fabled "withering" is just not happening, the government keeps getting more and more bloated and huge. Moreover, corporate taxes are actually very low, the upper class is still phenomenally wealthy, the redistribution is basically from the middle class to the middle class and the lower class simply doesn't exist. I would say the Nordic Socialism model is actually proof that Marx was an ass-grabbing retard and Bakunin was right. If you want Anarchy you must start from Anarchist principles, you cannot just hope for a transformation over time.

>>51967946
>if you want Anarchy
>marxism
>anarchy
Excuse me?

>$23,119
We #magic now.

>>51967967
Communism, as in end-goal communism is supposed to be a classless stateless society. Did you actually read Marx? He envisioned a natural transition from Capitalism (which builds the system) to Socialism (which gains control of the system) through Withering (which kills off the "unnecessary" part of the system i.e. the State) to Communism (classless stateless society with communal ownership of MoP)

Except the withering literally never happens. Every time something resembling Marx's vision of Communism actually occurs it's after a war or a revolution where it is implemented immediately, endures for a few years, and then reverts to some other system.

>>51967827
The question is will it be cost effective. Who hired a team of engineers to design a robot to find a pipe, dig a hole and fix the pipe? That probably cost 800,000 dollars. Why?
Will the machine be capable of navigating its way to the location, can the machine improvise if something about the situation is unusual, and would it have been cheaper to just pay someone to do it instead?

We're nowhere close to that scenario yet. Battery supply is still a crippling issue for robotics designers, and even in the most ideal of circumstances you still generally require a specialized platform to perform any given task. Humans on the other hand have never been more numerous than they are now. It's definitely an employer's market for manual labor, this is why we still have aztecs picking crops for us in fields when we've probably had the technology to do it with machines since the 1990s.

>>51968024
Anon Marx did not envision a classless stateless society. He envisioned a classless one. His notion of statelessness was rooted in the concept that literally everyone was part of the state. Anarchy emphasizes individuality, marxism empahsizes the opposite.
His "withering" is the withering of the exploiters, but can also be interpreted to be the withering of exploitation i.e. withering of income and wealth inequality. That there is no lower class in Sweden means it is closer to Marxism that far away. The Proletariat are merely the ones who own nothing but their own labor, but under a system where you enter a dictatorship of the proletariat, that is to say, where everyone is a member of the proletariat, nobody is a proletariat. The bourgeoisie are those who own the means of production. If the proletariat as a class seize those means, they become the bourgeoisie.
The concept that the proletariat are fading is the withering. The withering of the bourgeoisie doesn't necessary mean that the bourgeoisie become poor. It can also mean that the proletariat are the ones disappearing, because it's not the withering of wealth but of disparity. With less disparity, you also have less need for the state (in theory, this is actually bullshit) - hence why taxes in Scandinavia is "increasingly going to stupid things nobody wants".

>>51968140
What about in 50 years though? A hundred? That you think there's anything that can't be automated is foolish and overestimating your own value. The only things that can't be automated are those that have no correctness inherent. Philosophy, the creative arts perhaps, and things you do for enjoyment.

>>51968179
>what about in 50 years though
It isn't 50 years from now.

>What about a hundred
It isn't a hundred years from now.

>That you think there's anything that can't be automated is foolish and overestimating your own value.
It may be pessimistic but it's also objectively true at the moment. My job can't be automated yet, and if that eventuality is 40 years away then it might as well be 4000 years away. That you think something that might happen decades in the future is a good enough reason for us to implement pie in the sky economic nonsense right now is far more foolish.

Like every other futuristic bullshit: Call me when it happens. When we actually replace 90% of the workforce with machines we can discuss economic models.

>>51968288
>It isn't 50 years from now.
>It isn't a hundred years from now.
Yes and we're also not post-scarcity nor is there political backing for a basic income. Look nigger, why the fuck are you discussing this at all then?

>good idea
>I can't motherfucking read and think that an attack on its socioeconomic feasibility is an endorsement
>an admission that "they're not feasible right now" is a push that they're feasible right now
Kill yourself. You claimed "youll never be able to fully automate" and are now backtracking, and that "People are so cheap its easier to just pay two extra guys 70 hours worth of pay than it is to rent equipment." when this is blatantly false.

>>51968152
That isn't what I read. The end result isn't supposed to be a giant government that charges me six times the value of a car so that it can give my money to other people, the end result is suppose to be a society in which the business I work at isn't owned by some venture capitalist in another country. Instead, both of those things are the case, and it is not changing.

This is all starting to sound pretty dystopian.

>>51968361
>The end result isn't supposed to be a giant government that charges me six times the value of a car so that it can give my money to other people
No, that's supposed to be the end result. The end result is that you earn 0 money. Ever. You will never see a wagecheck in your life. You are handed shit people produced for free, and work for free because you want to. That's marxism. It's also why it presupposes either post-scarcity or makes humans out to be saints.

All I wanted was to bitch about me being unable to afford my surgery and the fact that a bit of help from Big Brother would take the bite off of the bills. :(

>>51968386
On the topic of Big Brothers, has anyone here played a game where the party were all family (the PCs, not the players).

>>51968342
Because this all started with some cuckold bitching that he needed a UBI because automation could obviate his need to work.

And it's nonsense. It isn't true, and I don't think it's ever going to be true. Now you're saying that we can just rent equipment--the equipment doesn't even exist yet. It may never exist. You can't just project the cost of technology 50 year in the future.

You are the one building an argument out of pure speculation here. None of the technology you're talking about exists. I am not being unreasonable for being skeptical of your Rapture fantasies.

>>51968405
No, but that sounds interesting. It'd work really well in a Song of Ice and Fire-esque setting, too. Everyone's in a minor noble family trying to make a name for themselves, literally.

>>51968414
>Or we could just invest in automation and employ a universal basic income, make college free, and reap in a new golden age of me not having to join the military to afford a surgery.
Where in there does it say I wouldn't need to work? Just because there's a basic income that doesn't mean it's enough to live off of.

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>Leave for one night
>Communists invade
McCarthy was right. Go back to 8gag and let my people talk about swords.

>>51968414
>Because this all started with some cuckold bitching that he needed a UBI because automation could obviate his need to work.
That's not what he said you pile of illiterate manual labor shit.

>Now you're saying that we can just rent equipment--the equipment doesn't even exist yet
Tell that to the Chinese villages which used to need a thousand people working for a week to do what one person from a tractor renting company can do overnight for far cheaper.

>it isn't true
Just like artisans would never be replaced. You're literally scared you'll be driven out of a job. That's it. You don't know shit about the topic, you think that there's anything that is irreplaceable when everything you do is literally just a routine with some flexibility - which is codeable.

>rapture fantasies
Read my fucking argument you dumb kneejerking piece of shit. I said it would be a bad fucking idea to automate when it's not possible for everyone and that it would cause problems; but do you really think half of the finance sector isn't automateable? What about taxis or deliveries? There's that one African country which has nationwide unmanned drone deliveries for small packages like medicine. Japan is busy developing mechanical waiters. Cars are becoming automatic. Why is what you do special? Oh yes - it's much harder to automate that these. But impossible? Get over yourself.

>>51968427
I dunno how well it'd work in SoS (I mean we do have followers I guess), but in other systems it's often a really good way to have a persistent campaign. You can have the new campaign be comprised of the kids you were towing around in the earlier one.

>>51968490
Beware the peasant rebellion.
*overthrows the king*

>>51962945
The average soldier with 4 STR, Superior Break from Tier 1 Blunt, and let's say... 3 damage on the weapon for a two handed axe,
Yep. Breaks a common wooden haft on 1 BS. Trivial.

Average soldier with a 1 damage 1H sword needs 5 BS. Rather difficult.

Anything with Fine Forge 3 becomes nearly impossible to break in normal circumstances, however.

Yeah, I'll say that's a bit too swingy.

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>>51968506
>you pile of illiterate manual labor shit.
WEW LAD the Classism is real. I look forward to literally nothing happening, and to you continuing to get mad on imageboards because people call out your masturbatory futuristic fantasies as speculation.

>>51968560
Nah. You'd just need to fluff up Folks Back Home. The players would be the siblings. The heads of the household would be the quest givers. The family's servants and soldiers would be Retinue. Allied families would be Allies. Rival families would be Enemies.

All that's missing is rules for large combat and estate/income management.

>>51968490
It's not too late to rename it to Song of Soviets, you know.

>>51968638
>classism
Discriminating is not in and of itself bad. You've proven yourself to be self-contradictory, factually misinformed, and unable to demonstrate basic reading comprehension.

>>51968645
>the players would be siblings
Sexing your older sister when?

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>>51968685
You know the answer to that.

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>>51968674
You've proven yourself to be a speculative rapture-cultist of the modern age. You're also mad as fuck, and hold the working class in contempt! Maybe you should go have your robot butler make you some chamomile.

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>>51968730
being the older sister when

>>ALL
Jesus fuck I'll see you people at the Q&A.

>>51968742
>rapture cultist
>literally say it wouldn't work and shouldn't be implemented until it does
See what I mean?

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>>51968762
>having a reddit account
But yeah sure.

>>51968765
>y-y-your job is going to be t-taken away a-and automation is unstoppable and UR JUST IN DENIAL
>wew lad that isn't like even on the horizon yet
>STOP DENYING THE TECHNO-RAPTURE'S INEVITABILITY
>wew lad you sound like a cultist
>I'M NOT A CULTIST REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Is /trash/ still around? You should go there.

>>51968762
I can't find the Q&A, the link at the top leads to a subreddit that was apparently banned three years ago.

>>51968831
https://www.reddit.com/r/SongofSwordsRPG/

For some reason copy/paste went full potato on me.

>>51968820
>wew lad that isn't like even on the horizon yet
I provided examples where it's already happening.
You have contradicted yourself by changing your claim that "it will never happen" to "it may happen later but that doesn't matter".
You have been factually mistaken in your claims that it is economically not viable to automate things such as crop collection due to cheap labor when it's happening today in countries with far cheaper labor than most places.
You lack sufficient reading comprehension to understand I'm not endorsing automation and believe it would cause social unrest.
You lack understanding of the subject and believe that feedback is impossible to program when it's being done right now but is simply too expensive to be feasible in menial jobs, but that costs are already an order of magnitude less than a few years ago. In fact it sounds like you believe menial tasks like digging a 2 by 2 hole are difficult for a robot, when digging is one of the very few things low-level machines can do better than most humans.
You are the one who sounds like a cultist. You refuse to use actual reasoning or provide factual examples. All you can do is kneejerk and make claims - factually incorrect claims, at that.

I don't even know what a techno-rapture is supposed to be, but assuming it's just another word for some singularity shit, in which case - full automation not even what a technological singularity is, in fiction or by technical defintion.

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>>51968973
>>51968820
>>51968765
>>51968742
>>51968674
>>51968638
fuck off.

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>>51968973
>He's still answering
WEW LAD nothing like a wall of furious text to prove that you aren't a delusional fanatic. You're lucky I don't have work today, or I'd have never seen it. I guess if you're like super sure you're not a cultist, we can just settle on you being wrong. I accept your apology.

>>51969033
>I don't have work today
Are you even employed? I'm having trouble imagining it.

>>51969033
>He's still answering
>You're still answering
>>>/trash/

>>51969068
not him but what does /trash/ even consist of

>>51969084
communists

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>>51969084
>>51969068
I just checked and now I regret it,

>>51969057
But if I didn't have a job, that'd mean I was trolling the eclipse phase (hi jimmy) larper for no reason at all.
And THAT would mean that

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>>51962076
>want an Armet but the Barbute is so much lighter and cheaper

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Automated DMs when?
no seriously, imagine a CRPG with some sort of intelligent DM AI.

>>51969143
Just use whichever fits your character. Don't be a tryhard.

>>51969200
>tryhard
>>>/v/

>>51969147
I would legit never talk to anybody ever again if I had a for real AI to GM for me, complete with AI players to shit post with.

>>51969251
What did you want me to say? Munchkin? Powergamer? Fuck off.

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>>51969251
Tryhard is more of a /tg/ thing than anything else honestly, being a munchkin is pretty much antithesis to most settings where in a lot of games it's almost an art.

>>51969266
That's General AI, at which point you can have AI waifus, AI chefs, AI pets, AI daughterus, AI GMs and AI friends.

>>51968852
Wait, is that where the Q&A will be? Not on some site where people go to that haven't already donated?

>>51969281
I mean like AI programmed to simulate party members. I concede that that might be covered by an AI GM.

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Great talk guys!

So what's everyone going to spend their Visionary tiers on?

Character or location?

>>51969268
No, you fuck off, with your constant derogatory outlook.

>>51969310
Yeah that's the thing though
If you've got AI that's able to shitpost with you, talk OOC, etc., you've reached general AI. An AI DM doesn't necessarily need to be able to do any of that if it's limited to just making new campaigns.

>>51968852
>24 readers / 4 online
Legit believe that having an AAR here would be better, except >newfags.

>>51969332
Yeah I guess shit posting with AI might be a bit much. But like if the AI GM could stimulate party members, without the player behind it, I'd be happy. And never seen again.

>>51969348
Having it almost literally anywhere else would be better.

Like, why is it not on /r/RPG which actually generated money when there was a thread there before?

>>51969318
I'll be using it for fucking nothing because you assholes gobbled them up before I could open my computer
I'd buy Iconic too if I wasn't poor.

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>>51969318
Do you like ships, anon?

>>51969389
Because he forgot, and this was easy. Don't expect him to do anything difficult. Mediocrity is his way.

>>51969421
I was thinking about doing a ship, a church, a caravan or a cult.

Good to know other people are thinking about locations.

So how is magic working here
Obviously since this is sword heavy I expect we won't have epik PF magic where you can teleport into the sky and nuke a battlefield, but is it going to be available to everyone, and if so, will it be mainly utility?

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JIMMY YOU KEK
ADD MECHANICS FOR NOBILITY AND FIEF / CASTLE MANAGEMENT

>>51969516
I asked him before if it wasn't possible to use a system similar to Wealth to create enfeoffed estates, but he went off on some rant about the wildly different land costs across Vosca.
He never did respond to my requests about a somewhat standard recommendation for rents, either.

>>51969516
Make them yourself
>>51965962
Low Tech Companion 3

>>51969470
A church would be cool.

>>51969580
A genosian church glowing in defiance of a raging eclipse?

>>51969565
>make them yourself
>implying balance / lore friendliness

>>51969646
>implying jimmy can balance

>>51969479
Magic is not widely available. If you download the the Latex PDF or COTV PDF you'll notice around ~4 distinct styles of magic of wildly different power level from mundane PCs.

>As voted by you, Sarah Gizka (first place), Wilhelm the Strong (second place), and Gaius Lucullus Sulla (third place) will lead the three armies of the second NPC Army Deck!

>>51969758
F U C K

>>51969758
I see the majority of SoSfags need to be shot.

>>51969758
The best possible answer, in the exact right order.

>>51969758
>human soldiers
>undead
>human soldier
Sad!

>>51969853
>he doesn't want early modern roman legionnaires
Imagine it.

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>>51969758
>No Eskarne
Damn it people.

Damn it normies.

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>>51969758
>No Eskarne
>No Kal'Ceska
>NO ESKARNE

FUCKING NORMALFAGS
GET OFF MY KICKSTARTER
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>51970126
There are three more armies the team are going to arbitrate the selection for.
Calm those raging biddies.

>>51970138
Zabaz army deck when?

>>51969975
>show one man your pussy while telling another man to fuck it
This is next-level whore martial art tech

>>51970181
How do you beat the blade of an entire army?

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>>51970227
>implying it has a pussy

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>>51970338

>>51968674
You know that you were argueing with more than one person right? Cause i started this shit with you and my lunch break ended 4 hours ago. Cant use my phone at work cause you never know when your gunna walk up on a benzene leak and thats a quick way to a firey explosion

http://guywindsor.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/DeArteGladiatoriaEnglish.pdf

To my most illustrious Prince
Guido di Montefeltro
Duke of Urbino
I offer this little book to you, great Prince,
To which Muse my mind is devoted to,
When giving up song to study the law of the principal
martial games,
Mars accustomed to kiss especially Phoebus (Apollo):
The muse next decorates Mars, and worships Minerva.

Philipo Vadi offers this book
on the art of gladiatorial combat to the illustrious
Prince Guido di Montefeltro
Duke of Urbino.

Having been drawn to warlike acts and things by my
earnest spirit, devoid of all cowardice, since my first
thriving years, as time progressed I grew in strength
and knowledge I went, through hard work, to learn
something of the art, its style and skills, regarding the
aforementioned warlike acts and things. Such as how
to play with the sword, lance, dagger and axe. Of these
things, through the guidance of God I acquired some
good advice and this through the practical experience
and theory of many teachers from various different
countries, all complete masters and perfectly
knowledgeable in this art. And not to diminish but
instead to increase this doctrine so that it will not perish
from my negligence, because from it comes no small
help in battles, wars, riots and other warlike tumults:
instead it gives all men trained and instructed in this
material immediate and unique help: it has been
suggested and required that I compile a booklet
concerning these things by people I have surpassed in
the art, and am more long winded than: adding to this
various figures and placing various examples so that
any man versed in this material can use if for assaults
at arms, and can defend himself intelligently and be
advised of all the types and styles.

So that everyone of a generous spirit will see this, my
little work, as a jewel and a treasure, recording it in his
inner heart, so in this way this useful art and doctrine
will not fall into the hands of uncouth men and those
of lowborn condition. Because heaven has not
made these men in earthly flesh and beyond all
cleverness and hard work and bereft of bodily
agility, but instead they were made without reason,
like animals, just to carry heavy loads and do base
and rustic works. And so for this reason I tell you
that they are in every way alien to this science, and
it appears to me that the opposite stands for
everyone of perspicacious intelligence and lively
limbs such as are courtiers, scholars, barons,
princes, Dukes and Kings, who should be invited to
this noble science according to the principle of the
Instituta which states: not only should Imperial
Majesty be honoured in Arms, but also armed with
sacred laws.
Nobody should think that there is anything false or
any kind of error in my book, because I have left out
anything doubtful, and included only things that I
have seen and tested. Let us begin then to explain
our intention, with the aid and grace of the
omnipotent God whose name will be blessed
forever.

And because the various animals, lacking reason,
have natural gifts, without any of the knowledge of
man (who lacks such natural bodily gifts). So instead
of naturally occurring weapons, to make up for the
lack of the aforesaid weapons, nature gives man
hands. So to those that lack natural weapons she
gives the virtue of intelligence and thought. So those
that have natural weapons cannot acquire more
weapons. So those that lack natural weaponry can
better make use of all weapons, natural or otherwise.
Having then need above all other animals for
intelligence and reason, these things flourish, art and
intelligence, and not only these two things raise us
above the other animals. But every trained and
clever man of good intelligence overtakes and
surpasses any other that is tougher than him, and
more full of force.
Just to expand on my previous point. Cleverness
overcomes strength. And what is greater still and
almost incredible: sapiens dominabitur astris. An art
that conquers all, and dominates anyone who would
fight you or stand against you, is born from the
aforesaid cleverness and other piercing thinking.
And not just one man against another, but also a
method and the possibility is born for one man to
overcome many people. And not only is shown the
way and theory of combating the adversary, and to
defend yourself against him, but also is taught advice
on how to take the weapon from his hand.
In these texts there will also be a few words on how a
small person of little strength can overcome and throw
down a big tough and brave man, and so you will see
how the humble can overtake the great and the
unarmed the armed. And many times it happens that
someone on foot defeats and conquers someone on
horseback.

But because this is a serious matter it would be very
inconvenient if this noble doctrine perished and
diminished through negligence, I, Philippo di Vadi from
Pisa having studied this art since my first flourishing
years having travelled to and practiced in many
different countries, lands, castles and cities to collect
the teachings and examples of many perfect masters
of the art. By the grace of God having acquired and
followed a sufficient quantity of the art I have been free
to compose this, my little book, in which I have
organised and shown at least the main points of four
types of weapon: the lance, sword, dagger and axe.
And in this book written by me I describe a properly
organised theory and practice of this art, with
examples illustrated with various figures, so anyone
new to the art can understand and know how to fight,
and by which tricks and vigour he expels, beats aside
those of opponents and enemies. I have only included
in the aforesaid book the good and true doctrine, which I
have received from the most perfect masters, with great
pains, and efforts, and vigils. And I have also included
things that I have discovered and often tested.
Reminding and admonishing all, in plain words, to not
dare attempt this art and science unless they are bold,
generous and full of courage. Because any coarse, lowborn,
pusillanimous man must be chased away and
blocked from such nobility and refinement. Because to
this doctrine should only be invited such men as: men at
arms, scholars, barons, lords, dukes, princes and kings
of the land and any of those that govern the republic, and
to any of these who defend widows and orphans (both of
these are pious and divine works).
And if this my little work finds its way into the hands of
anyone versed in the art and appears to him to have any
superfluous or wrong, please adjust, reduce or add to it
as he pleases. Because in the end I place myself under
his correction and censure.

Chapter I begins.

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>>51970520
>so in this way this useful art and doctrine will not fall into the hands of uncouth men and those of lowborn condition.

Too late.

>>51969318
Whichever niche in the iconic party that isn't filled by the waifufags

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>>51971103
There is literally nothing wrong with waifufaggotry.

If you wish to truly know
If fencing is an art or science
Hark my words, I say.

Ponder this, my conclusion:
It is a true science and not an art
As my brief eloquence shall show

Geometry divides and separates
By infinite numbers and measures,
And fills her papers with science.

The sword is placed in her care,
So measure blows and steps together
So Science keeps you safe.

From Geometry fencing is born,
And under her it has no end;
And both of them are infinite.

And if you heed my doctrines,
You'll know how to answer with reason
And pluck the rose from the thorns.

Music adorns this subject,
Song and sound enshrine the art,
To make it more perfect through science.

To make your opinion clearer,
And to sharpen your intellect,
So you may be able to answer to everyone:

So Geometry and Music combine
Their scientific virtues in the sword,
To adorn the great light of Mars.

Now if you like what I have said,
And the explanations I have written
Keep them in mind, so you will not fall.

So answer true as have told you,
In fencing you will find no end,
as every backhand finds its fore,
Counter by counter without end.

Chapter II Measures of the two handed sword.

The sword should be of the just measure,
The pommel should come under the arm
As it appears here in my writing.

As you wish to avoid any trouble,
The pommel should be round to fit the fist
Do this to not enter the trap.

And do this as it is always done:
The handle should be always a span
If it is not of this measure there is confusion.

So your mind is not deceived,
The crossguard should be as long as the
handle
And pommel together, and you won't be
condemned.

You want the crossguard strong and square
With a wide and pointed iron,
It must cut and thrust to do its duty.

Take note and understand this guide
If you wish to test the sword in armour,
Make the cutting edges four fingers from the
point,
With the handle as is said above,

With pointed crossguard, and note well the text.

What is even happening.

Chapter III Principles of the sword
Grasp the sword manfully,
Because the cross is a royal weapon,
Together with a bold spirit.

If you have a sharp mind,
You must consider here,
The way to climb these stairs.

The art of the sword is just in crossing,
Suiting thrust or cut to their context,
To make war on he who stands against you.

On one side you make defence
The forehand blows go one one side,
The backhands attack from the other.

The true edge falls on the forehand side,
And note well this truth
The backhand and false edge go together.

And follow then as the saying goes,
Place yourself in guard with the sword in hand,
If you pass forwards or back remain sideon.

So that you will not play in vain,
Face the side to which you turn,
And enter there, if this is not strange.

Letting your sword go hunting
Against the companion with your point in his face,
Ready to strike immediately.

You must be very shrewd,
Keep an eye on the weapon that can strike you,
Grabbing the tempo and measure together.

Make your heart agree with your defence
The feet and the arm with good measure,
That you may take all the honour.

And note well and understand my text
That if the companion strikes with his sword,
With yours acquire the crossing.

Your guard should not go out of the way,
Go with the cover and with the point raised
The blows hammer the head.

Play of the cross and you will not be conquered,
If the companion crosses wide and you thrust,
You want to not be divided from him.

When you are joined with him at the half sword,
Constrain him as reason desires,
And leave the wide play and confront him.

Also sometimes it is so,
That a man doesn’t feel himself very strong,
Then he needs cunning, not words.

Pass out of the way with skill,
With the cover of the good backhand,
Redoubling swiftly with a forehand.

If you don’t feel your cunning has been lost
Leave the wide and find the constrained play
Make strength change sides.

>>51971483
We're getting educated! Why pay for a Noble School would you could just join a Thai basketweaving forum?

And take note of and understand this saying,
That when crossing, cross with strength,
To lessen the threat from his sword.

Know that cleverness always overcomes strength,
Make the cover and immediately strike,
In wide and constrained you’ll beat down strength.

And if you want to make him feel your point,
Go out of the way with a pass across
Make him feel your point in his chest.

With the point high and the pommel low
And the arms inside with a good cover,
Pass to the left side with a good pace.

And the point will find an open way,
Passing to the outside do not fear,
In every way you will make your offer.

Control him and grasp the grip of his sword,
If this cannot be done well,
Crushing his sword does the duty.

Always match your passes
With the enemy’s, and when you find him
This I say do not let go!

When you see that the sword moves,
Or if he steps, or strikes,
Or you pass back, or make him find a bump.

Wisdom, strength and boldness act
With him who desires honour in arms,
Lacking these, he must exercise more.

You must have a bold heart,
If a big man appears strong
Using cunning will give you favour.

Be as certain as death
That your play is not courteous,
When the other tries to shame you

And note well this text of mine,
You know your heart, not the companion’s
Do not wish ever to use that fantasy.

Make yourself great in trickery
If you wish for success in this art
That will bear good fruit.

Note well and understand this part
Who wishes of the art to act in opposition
Of a thousand, one will dirty his cards.

He loses honour for one single failing
If he believes low things to be high
And from this alone will be often against others.

Often he makes from this other complaints
Being in opposition he comes to quarrel
Showing that with him who is versed in the art

If the tongue could cut with reasons,
And strike as does the sword,
The dead would be infinite.

And make sure your mind does not fall
But grasp with reason your defence,
And with justice go justly.

If you go without reason to offend others,
Certainly damns his soul and body
And makes his master ashamed.

And you must always keep in mind
To always honour your teacher,
Because money does not repay such a debt.

If you would be dextrous, and master the sword,
You must be accomplished in teaching and learning,
Raising to give you the act of the left.

If loyalty for them gives you (their) love,
You can talk to princes and kings,
Because this art is used by them.

Because they are expected to govern
And each to maintain justice,
For widows, orphans and other affairs.

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All sorts of good things come from this art,
By arms the cities are kept down
And the crowds are kept under control.

And she maintains in herself such dignity,
That it always warms your heart,
Driving out cowardice.

Acquire both riches and honour
And this passes above all other things
Be always in your lord’s good graces.

If you would have fame in this art,
You will never be poor, anywhere,
Because this virtue is so glorious.

If poverty shows you the cards
Only once, then you will see,
By this art, riches will embrace you.

Sometimes you will find yourself
Being like a spent light,
Do not doubt that you will soon return.

To find this art I have spared no pains,
I speak not of the old but the new
To make her known I am content.

I have kept her firmly imprisoned,
But as I release her, I truly swear
She gave me wealth, and as it happened to me,
So it will be for those in whom we find this virtue

Chapter Four

This art is so noble and refined,
She makes masters of men who follow her,
Makes the eye quick and bold and noble.

This art teaches you to turn well,
Teaches also to cover and be strong,
And cuts and thrusts, it teaches the good parry.

How many are those, the numberless dead
To whom the art did not appeal,
And so they closed their doors to life.

There is no greater treasure than life,
And everyone strives to defend it,
To hold onto it as hard as they can.

Abandon material goods, and all valuable things,
Defend your body with this art,
And you will have honour and glory.

Oh what a laudable and good thing it is
To learn this art that costs you so little,
And a thousand times gives you life.

Oh in how many ways it can have a place with you
Without searching you will find quarrels
Blissful is he who can push the other’s fire.

My art is new and made with reason
I speak not of the old, that I leave
To our ancestors and their beliefs.

If you do not want your honour to be thrown down,
Measure your tempo and that of the companion.
This is the foundation and base of the art.

Open your ears to the great text,
And understand its beautiful reason,
To not give your teacher cause for complaint.

Make it so the swords are always sisters
When you come to fence with someone
And choose the one you want from them.

Do not give advantage of the sword to anyone
You will be in danger of being shamed,
And this is something to be followed by anyone.

Good eye, knowledge, speed are needed,
And if you have strength and heart together
You will scratch anyone’s mange.

Understand my sentence well,
A big man should have a long sword,
And a little man should have a short one.

A man of great strength can break the guards,
But natural cleverness will keep that in check,
It gives a good chance to a small man.

Who makes many blows brings venom
Who makes few does so with great effort,
In the end a black wind can be pleasant.

And if you come to the edge of my line,
And grasp the reason of this art,
She must extract you from trouble.

And note well that of which I speak,
Do not display the secrets of the art
So you won’t be injured for this reason.

Also understand well this other thing,
The sword that is longer is deadly,
You cannot play with it without danger.

Make sure they are of equal measure,
As I said in the first chapter
Of our book, that is above.

I only esteem the sword of two hands,
And this is the only one I use at need,
And of which the verse of my book sings.

And so you will not be shamed,
Avoid fighting more than one
Who makes against the other one the reedpipe.

If force constrains you to contend
With more than one, then keep this in mind,
Take a sword that you can really use.

Choose a weapon that is light, not heavy,
So it is easily controlled
And you are not given difficulty by the weight.

At need you can take another way,
And you leave the thrust and employ
Other blows to return here,

As you will hear in my text.

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Chapter V Of Thrusts and Cuts

The sword has a point and two edges,
But note well and understand this text,
That memory will not fail you.

One is the false, and the other the true,
And reason commands and desires,
That this is fixed in your brain.

Forehand and true edge go together,
Backhand and false edge stay together,
Except the fendente which wants the true.

Understand my text well,
The sword goes with seven blows
Six cuts with the thrust that strikes.

So that you will find this seam,
Two from above and below and two in the middle,
The thrust up the middle with deceit and suffering,
That our Air is often calm.

Chapter VI The seven blows of the sword.

We are the fendenti and we make quarrels,
To strike and cut often with grief,
The head and the teeth with the right reason.

And all guards that are made low to the ground,
We break often with our cunning,
Passing from one to the other without trouble.

The blows make a bloody mark,
When we mix them with the rota
We support the entire art.

Fendente for striking we are well endowed,
Returning to guard from pass to pass,
That you want to mix me with the other blows,

Note we are not slow to strike.
I am the rota and I have in me such a load,
I place a thrust often at a bow.

I cannot be courteous or loyal
Turning I pass through forehand fendente
And destroy arms and hands without delay

People call me Rota by name,
I seek the false of the sword
I please the mind of he who uses me.

We are volanti, always crossing
And from the knee up we go,
Fendente and thrusts we often banish.

By crossing us pass without fail,
The Rota that come up from below,
And with the fendente warms our cheeks.

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Chapter 7 Of the thrust.

I am he that quarrels with
All the other blows, and I am called the thrust.
I carry venom like the scorpion.

I feel so strong, bold and quick,
Often I make the guards plough again
When I am thrown at others and confront them

By my harmful touch, when I join them.

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>>51962148
>tfw this entire project was an excuse to produce waifus
>tfw SoS is blessed by the Dark Fetish God

Chapter VIII The quarrel of the cuts and thrusts.

The rota with the fendente and the volante
Say to the thrusts “we will show
That you are not so dangerous”.

And when they come to us,
All the blows can make them lose their way
Losing in this joust the chance to strike.

The blow of the sword does not lose its turn,
Little worth the thrust to him the quick turn,
It makes it go very wide, the blows going that way.

If you don’t have a slack memory,
If the thrust doesn’t strike it loses the strike
All the others deem it weak.

Against just one the thrust finds its place,
Against more it doesn’t do its duty,
This is found in the text and the act.

If the thrust throws a rota do not fear
If it does not immediately take a good fendente,
It remains fruitless against my parry.

Keep in mind here,
If the thrust enters but does not swiftly exit,
It lets the companion strike back hard.

Your sword is expert at slicing a blow,
The thrust will lose its way to the strike,
It is mocked with the help of the low cross.

I make a straight fendente at you with the sword,
And break you out of that guard.
So that you are forced into a bad spot.

Do not lose a single hour of learning.
The great blows with a serene hand,
Will place you above the others and give you honour.

Break all low guards
Low guards await small loads,
And so heavy ones pass without difficulty.

Heavy arms do not go quickly to the step,
Light ones go and come like an arrow in a bow.

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Chapter IX Of the Cross.

I am the Cross with the name of Jesus
My sign is made both in front and behind
To find many more defences.

If I find myself against a different weapon,
I do not lose my way, this has been proven
This I often go looking for.

And when I find a long weapon,
Then with reason I make my defence,
To gain the honour in every venture.

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>>51971804
Chapter X Discussion of the half sword.

Wanting to follow in this great work,
It is necessary to explain bit by bit,
All the strikes of the art.

So that you will understand and use
The system well, I wish to first make clear
The turning principle of the sword.

And with arms extended
Bring the edge to the middle of the companion.

And if you wish to appear great in the art,
You should go from guard to guard,
With a slow and serene hand,
With steps that are not out of the ordinary.

If you wish to make a stramazone at someone
Do it with a small turn to the face
Don’t make a very wide turn
Because all long movements are for nothing.

Making the roverso you will be helped,
Passing out of the way with the left foot,
Following with the right foot too,
Keeping an eye out for a good parry.

When you wish to enter in to half sword
As the companion lifts his sword,
Then don’t hold back,
Grab the tempo or it will cost you dear.

Place yourself in the guard of the boar,
When you enter with the thrust at the face
Do not leave your point in the face,
Turn quickly a roverso fendente.

And draw a mandritto, and keep this in mind.
So that you understand my intention,
With clear reasoning,
I hope to show you the way.

I don’t want your blows to be solely roverso,
Nor just fendente, but between one and the other,
If between is the common one.
Hammering the head on all sides.

Also I advise you when you have entered,
Be with the legs paired with his
You will be lord, and clear,
To constrain and strike valiantly.

And when you strike a roverso fendente,
Bend the left knee, and note the text,
Extend the right foot,
Without changing it, i.e. to the other side.

Also, if you see you are going to be attacked,
The left foot and the head now,
Because they are closer together,
So don’t use the direct line, but remain on the diagonal.

So you will be safe from every side,
So you want the fendente, strike from the right,
You need to bend
The right knee: and extend well the left.

Clearly the head will also be attacked,
With the right foot that is closest.
This is the better way.
This is not the footwork of our ancestors.

It is not necessary that anyone contradict this,
Because you will be stronger, and more secure,
Hard in defence,
And make war with shorter movements.
And neither can anyone throw you to the ground.

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>>51971741
Amputee Waifu or we riot

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Chapter XI Principles of Swordplay.

When you are joined at the half sword,
Make a mandritto or roverso,
Be sure to grasp the sense
Of what I say, because it is to the point.

If you are there, keep a sharp eye out,
And look quickly with the cover,
And hold the sword up,
So your arms play above your head.

I cannot say in a few words,
Because the matter is of the half sword,
So that you will be better pleased,
When you parry, parry with a fendente.

Brush aside the sword, a little shortened,
Treading on that of the companion,
You will make a good deal,
Parrying well however many blows.

When you parry the roverso, keep in front,
The right foot, and parry as I have said.
Parrying the mandritto,
Keep in front your left foot.

You should also keep in mind,
When you strike a roverso fendente,
To keep a careful eye out,
So that a mandritto doesn’t come from underneath.

And if the companion strikes and you all of a sudden
Parry, making then to the head
A blow with the false edge
And as he lifts it, strike a good roverso

From below, through his arms,
Redoubling then with a quick mandritto,
And note also this,
That you do not fail the Reason of the Art.

If you strike a mandritto, then beware,
His roverso so he doesn’t strike you,
Make it that your sword
Parries with a fendente, so you are not caught.

And if it comes to you then to want
To enter underneath and grab his handle.
And then do your duty,
Hammering his moustache with your pommel,
Being very wary that hindrance does not grab you.

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Chapter XII Discussion regarding the Feints of the Sword.

Again I advise you, and note my words well,
That when you have entered into half sword
You then well from every side
Following the art with good feinting.

Feints call out to obfuscate
They hide from the other’s defence.
Do not let him understand,
What you want to do from one side or the other.

I cannot show you so well,
With my words how to do it with a sword,
Make your mind go
To investigate the art with my sayings.

And grasp valour with reason
As I admonish and as I teach you
And do it with cunning
You follow that which I have written in so many verses,
To discover the depths and the banks of the Art.

So what exactly is Void? There's nothing in the book I've seen that specifically addresses it and the name makes me feel like there must be more to it than I'm seeing.

Is Void basically just dodging? If I roll Closing Void, do I just play it like a parry vs TN8 and if I win I close in?

Is it for when I've got a dagger or something too shitty to parry with?

Why Void? Is it a book of 5 rings thing? Is it because it voids the attack?

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Chapter XIII Principles of the halfsword.

Being then joined at the half sword,
You can well hammer more and more times,
Striking on only one side,
Your feints go on the other side.

And when he loses his way with parrying,
And you hammer then on the other side,
Then you should decide
If you need to finish by closing in.

And if you want to throw blows,
Let a fendente roverso go,
And a false edge with the point in his face (turning it
across)

Do not be divided from his point,
With roverso or mandritto
With whichever you can work.
Because the knees bend on every side.

Following that which I showed you above,
I repeat for you again this addition,
Always enter with the point,
Forcing upwards from below, finishing in the face
And you can strike just at the right time.

>>51972015
>Is it because it voids the attack?

This, yes. It's essentially a careful dodge that takes your body out of the path of the weapon without completely putting you out of position to strike back.

>>51972015
Another definition of 'void' is 'to negate', as a verb. It's you moving, with your body, out of the way of the attack. Kind of like a dodge. Closing void is you stepping away from the strike and towards the enemy. For example, ducking under a swing to the neck and stepping in.

It's where the word "avoid" comes from. It's a dodge. Parry, Block, and Void are the three basic defense maneuvers in the game. You roll it just like a Parry or Block at the TN given by the maneuver and your bonuses.

Some maneuvers can't be easily parried or blocked. Sometimes your weapon gets Beaten or Shield Binded and you can't parry with it. The option to Void is always open.

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Chapter XIIII Theory of the half tempo of the sword

I cannot show you in writing
The theory and method of the half tempo
Because it remains in a knot
The shortness of the tempo of his strike.

The half time is just one turn
Of the knot: quick and immediately striking,
It can rarely fail
When it is done in good measure.

If you note well my writing
One who does not practice will parry badly
Often the turning
Breaks with a good edge the other’s brain.

Of all the art this is the jewel,
Because it treats as one the strike and the parry,
Oh what a valuable thing,
So practice it with good reason,
And it will let you carry the banner of the art.

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Chapter XV Theory of the sword against the rising blow

There are many who make their base
In turning strongly from every side
So be advised,
As his sword turns, move

And you turn and you will win the test,
Harmonise yourself with him and also with the strikes
And make your going thus
With your sword directly to his.

To clear your mind of illusions,
You can also go into boar’s tooth guard,
And if he with the turning,
And you escaping from below up.

Listen and understand my reasoning,
You who are new to the art, and experts too,
I want you to be sure,
That this is the art and the true science.

Grasp this, that is a steelyard’s trace,
That if the companion is in the iron door guard,
Lock this into your heart,
You should be in the archer’s guard,

Watch out that your point does not waver,
That of the companion covers his sword;
Go a little out of the way
Straightening the sword and the hand with the point.

When your sword is joined at the crossing,
Then do the thirteenth constrained action,
As is you can plainly see
Pictured in our book of seven leaves.

You can also use in this art
Striking and closing that are more handy,
Leave the more lefthanded,
Keep those that favour your hand,
So you will often have honour in the art.

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Chapter XVI Mastering the sword

It is necessary that the sword should be
A great shield that covers all,
And grasp this fruit,
That I give you for your mastery.

Be sure that your sword does not
Make guards or strike far away,
O how sensible this thing is,
That your sword makes short movements.

Your point should watch the face,
Of the companion, in guard or striking,
You will take his courage,
Seeing always the point staying in front of him.

And you will make your plays always forwards,
With your sword and with a small turn,
With a serene and nimble hand,
Often breaking the tempo of the companion,
You will weave a web different than spider’s.

There you have it /tg/.
Those of you who are coarse, lowborn, and pusillanimous are not to use this art of such nobility and refinement. Forget you read it.

>>51969415
I can technically afford an iconic slot, but the question is if I really want to afford it.

Is Genosianism supposed to be a critique of the PROTESTANT WORK ETHIC?

>>51972887
Good timing!
https://www.reddit.com/r/SongofSwordsRPG/comments/5x02zj/song_of_swords_ama_312017/

>Eclipses are normally expected every 30 days, but "rogue" eclipses do happen, and while these are predictable through astronomy, most people outside of the clergy have no idea when they're going to happen.

>In the Krajina, as well as the Kaselreich, Thanemarch, and the Wolfsmaw Islands, when a Rogue Eclipse occurs, rulers are expected to blanket-pardon criminals sentenced to death, reducing their punishments to enslavement or maiming. Engaged couples should rush to a church to be married on the spot, and military commanders are urged to take risks. The Rogue Eclipse is the personal intervention of Genosus and Bocanadessia, after all--a congress, unexpected, that may bring about dire changes in the world. As such, it is the right time to be daring, to correct past mistakes, and to show mercy that the gods might witness it.

>Famously, the King of Galli, Louis the Manticore, pardoned his own assassin on his deathbed during the Rogue Eclipse, after being impaled by a javelin thrown at him while riding. The young killer, an Ohanedin named Xabraxl, had been sentenced to have his legs skinned up to the knees, and then to be covered in salt and tied to a post where goats would lick the salt away, causing him extreme pain, until such a time as he died of exposure or thirst.

>Xabraxl, overcome with emotion at being pardoned, swore an oath of eternal servitude to the Crown of Galli, which he still holds to this day, 300 years alter.

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>>51973091
>had been sentenced to have his legs skinned up to the knees, and then to be covered in salt and tied to a post where goats would lick the salt away, causing him extreme pain, until such a time as he died of exposure or thirst.
Fucking brutal.

>>51969975
>>51970126
>Eskarne as a leader of men
pls

>>51972471
>>51972275
>>51972204
>none of those stances will be in SoS

>>51973091

>this dirty footed peasants call new moons "eclipses"

Someone should really civilize this continent.

>>51973962
We're talking about the sun, friend, not the moon.

>>51973999
>eclipses every 30 days
???

>>51974208
You must be new here.

http://tattered-realms.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse

>>51974281
But why call something that isn't an eclipse an eclipse?

>>51974321
The sun is black and the world goes dark. It's an eclipse.

>>51974391
>there's a bright light in the sky that lasts for a long time it's a supernova

>>51974321
>>51974391
Also Berserk reference

>>51974473
Berserk is overrated.

>>51974450
Okay, what do you think the correct name is for that time when the Sun does to his ziggurat to rest?

>>51974496
Cuddle time with the Lady Pope

>>51974496
"Amaterasu is throwing a fit and crying again someone fetch her little brother to do his disco party again."

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16109227/#16109359

I pray Galt welcomes the new age.

>>51974482
You're overrated.

This "reddit" thing must be working. We're past 23k

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jimmy fix the burgonet

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>>51974482
Kids these days

>>51974963
We've had exactly one $49 donation since the reddit started.

>The Kesh Farmer's Union is one of the largest blocks of Gizka Party supporters in the country, and whenever political violence breaks out, they usually have something to do with it. Since carrying cleavers is part of their job, they are allowed to carry them everywhere during the electoral season, when most weapons are banned from the cities, and this makes them especially dangerous when political violence breaks out, as most tradesmen inclined to fight would be doing it with the tools of their trade or with makeshift clubs--not messers and falchions.

>>51975000
>make the enemy basically a living god, now has no real way to beat him
Boat arc; I rest my case.

Reminder to shill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k01b7_7Puzk&lc=z12wi14ozk2xdhlad04cc35opuzngz0hybc

>trying to follow the Q&A on reddit
>the questions and answers jump up and down with each refresh
How do people use this shit?

>>51975283
By being redditors.

>>51975283
Sort comments by "new" and not "best"

Redditors are expected to upboat and downboat things so that the "good" stuff rises to the top and is visible. More votes, higher on the "best" list.
The system is deeply flawed, but it's their default.

>>51975314
is "controversial" a sort by comments that have a mixture of up and down votes?

>>51975417
Yes.

Reddit is designed to create consensus by deleting opinions against the current zeitgeist. Then once everyone agrees with each other it's just a matter of letting them slowly one-up each other into extremism.

That's why the bernie subreddit morphed over the course of the election from "why i not get paid for college" to "why is darky allowed to vote when he always votes wrong"

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>>51975490
That's hilarious.

>>51975490
It's also why Reddit's version of /pol/ was so extreme that they started denouncing /pol/ for being too left wing and eventually got themselves deleted.

I gotta say I do like that you can just track each reply to you manually but the format they give the posts in is just agonizing to parse.

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So my local friends who'd be amenable to this kind of shit are all obsessed with pathfinder, and the only friends into this kind of thing are online, I've decided to throw a TTS module together, mostly just a collection of visual aids for complicated fights, like pic related.

If you weren't the popular specimen you are and your local friends all wanted to play anime adventures, what kinds of thigns would you want to see in a TTS module?

I'm planning on adding a bag of those range trackers, cards for orientation, marked sections for players to track dice pools, and maybe some DM-screen style quick reference charts.

Probably note cards or some other way to track what's being declared, where we are in the fight. The system's very granular and I can see a larger fight quickly getting fiddly to track on paper.

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Pagans BTFO
There is one God

>>51976197
You gotta stylize the range track. Make it look like a sword, like the Anger Sword from the DBZ card game. Also remember to include Hilt Push and Grapple.

>>51976275
Remember the Paladin Bane story. Genosus's guys literally came in and Deus Vulted that shit up.

>>51971741
I'm the guy running the next Tournament

Everyone must submit their character in the form of a Waifu or gtfo

>>51976294
Swords aren't LL. Better to use a pike, and have an example weapon next to for each level or every other level. If, y'know we're getting fancy.

>>51976356
remember when we killed Sulla

>The Land of Glass and Sorrow
Reading that actually gave me a pit in my stomach. Did they fucking nuke egypt? Could the Orredin do that again if they wanted?

>>51976577
They glassed Judea.
Theoretically they could with enough prep, now that eugenics are increasing the number of living elves, thus increasing the available Flow.

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>Egypt
No.

>>51976749
>only four million
>not six million
This is entirely unlike pottery and I don't like it.

>>51976712
I don't know, they still are but a fraction of their former numbers.

>>51976898
If the fall of Helion was 1800 years ago, and this was about 2000 years ago, then this was done back when the Helians were still in their prime. Maybe they don't have the numbers to do it now.

>>51976712
>Eugenics Elves nuked the Jews
No no but seriously though nothing /pol/ to see here lol

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We had an amazingly good day this morning, and a bit more money trickled in during the day and afternoon. Today is a pretty major outlier on the graph, but it did pull the log of best fit up to the 26000 mark for the first time.

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>The conflicts in Tattered Realms aren't the result of Sauron waving his hands and sending forth 50,000 Orcs to besiege Gondor. Conflict in Tattered Realms happens because Glade Lagu's trade expeditions to the East destabilize the Amber market and impoverish thousands in Ruscovy. With Ruscovite wealth broken, Ruscovite power breaks as well, and the Diminished Hetmanate of the Calendi is suddenly free to run rampant across the Eastern border, looking for slaves, plunder, and possible conquest. Worse, the trend of weak kingdoms in the West draws in new waves of nomadic migrants from the East, looking for greener pastures, and within months the Khan of the Marju, a minor tribe, conquers dozens of other steppeland tribes on the way, and assimilates them into a great army with the intention of assaulting and seizing the weak, decadent lands of the West for his own. Ruscovy is ravaged, Alandi holds on by its fingernails, Osterbija fights medieval Stalingrad for nine years, Dace floods the Marju in Dacian blood until they drown.
>There's no magic there. There's no Sauron. There's no good and evil, it's just politics and economics. It's human.

Combine with pic related. Jimmy's "catholic" worldview is more nihilistic and grim than the most tryhard teenage fedora's, and it is fucking great.

>>51977125
Nice. So as long as things continue the way they are, we're probably going to hit the magic numbers to get everything.

The question is where we go from there. If OI gets everything, what happens then?

>>51977466
http://kotaku.com/somehow-tim-schafers-adventure-kickstarter-needs-more-652014092

I'm just being silly Jimmy, don't take the black pill.

>>51977466
They add more stretch goals.

>>51977495

This is a dangerous road to start on.

Also, can I drop my current weapon and draw a new one as a general action during a round, and if I do is it available for the current round?

Or do I need to use the quickdraw maneuver for that?

>>51977125
KickTraq's projection's range low has also gone back up above $30k.

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>>51971921
Best Girl

>>51976947
That's exactly what I was saying.

I found a podcast, and they want testimonials, does anyone have the paste2 link to The Boar?

>>51977644
I know there is a ruling about in the PDF but I can't seem to find it for whatever reason.

If I remember correctly you need a hand free to draw a weapon, no using that action, declare you are drawing a new weapon and you draw it as the action concludes.

>>51977837
http://www.rpgcircus.com/taxonomy/term/1

>>51977845
Do they actually talk about SoS in that podcast, or is it just a link they've thrown up?

>>51977888
They talk about it butmainly wonder about how it'll actually work.

>>51977925
>mainly wonder about how it'll actually work.
Isn't that what the beta's for?

>>51977845
>84 minutes
Nope.

So if I'm making a Noble School do I need to pay 2 for the school, then 2 for the primary?
Or do I pay 2 for the school, 2 for the primary and then 1 for the proficiency?

Also if I'm Human what am I subtracting 1 for? The [2] in brackets or 1 for each proficiency in the school?

>>51977845
Starts at around the 11th minute. They kind of shit-talk it since the marketing blurbs are shit and they worry about option paralysis. It would be good for some folks to send them play experience and maybe get a more favorable talk next time. I don't see how to contact them though.

>>51978150
SoS comes in like 9:30 and onwards. Just give it a minute, it's not supre long.

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>>51978324
It's pretty fun to watch the meteoric rise of SoS confound normies. We're now doubling The Watch's funding even though that has a totally progressive all-star design team. SoS is a bunch of drunk slavs and Californians slapping together a crunch-heavy niche game in a crunch-lite general market with zero street cred and fucking DOMINATING the competition.

/pol/ is better at /tg/ than /tg/

>>51978562
The boys at Opaque aren't really /pol/. They're /tg/, the kind of politics that predate /pol/ and /new/ for that matter.

>>51978562
Eh, that Zweihänder game got twice the funding that SoS got, and it look stupid as fuck.

>>51978644
Zweihander was riding off the coattails of Warhammer, which is actually a popular franchise that has been severely neglected. Relative to its dry startup status of "riding on the coattails of a game that failed 15 years ago" it's doing fucking great.

>>51978562
>spoiler
politics on /tg/ predate the existence of /pol/, but thanks to /pol/ it's now nigh impossible to have a good intrigue thread. Sad!

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>>51978585
I'm the only /pol/ack on the roster. I think Bones spends most of his chan time on /co/ and /tv/, and Claymore spends most of his time reading Proust. This is pretty much a multi-board effort. The last alliance of men and elves, to bring groinstabs back to middle earth.

Believe me, you haven't seen anything yet. Save the gloating until we're riding a ship of bones down a tide of blood on a riverbed slick with human fat.

>>51976197
You are a hero.

>>51978832
Claymore got an undercut and unnecessarily thick-framed glasses?

>>51978832
>>51978775

Do you guys remember the great 'hit bump limit just to talk politics' talks we used to have?

>>51978562
>normies
Normalfag detected

>>51978832
>cross board effort
But where is the reps from team /weeb/

>>51978979
We're not talking politics, that was like way earlier. This is just a statement that we are NOT representing any one board or group, this is an effort by people of very diverse interests who just want to make a cool game for cats across the world to enjoy. I think we can all come together for that, and we should want to. It's better to have friends.

>>51979025
You need to talk to Croaker.

>>51979091
>game is for cats
>everyone gets mad we only make murderhobos
>but the game is for literal murderhobos

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>>51978979
I do indeed. Ahh the memories.

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>>51979025
What weeb we talking? OG synonym weeb? Can't help you, Nu-weeb as in enjoys Japanese media? I'm pretty sure that's 90%+ of 4chan

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>>51979111
>I'm pretty sure that's 90%+ of 4chan
Unless you count things like NieR and DS NieR is fucking based holy shit aaaaa, there's an increasing number of people who kneejerk really hard at anime.

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>>51979147
That's just contrarians.

>>51979183
So what the fuck was Alice's problem anyway? Was she just doing acid?

>>51979206
Imaginary numbers.