that guy gen

And now you autistically complain about it on the internet.

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>that guy whose character actively works against the rest of the party at every turn and seems surprised when they kill him
>that guy who makes a cannibal sex slave for a Star Wars game
>those guys who make a tsundere, a yandere, and a loli for a Call of Cthulhu game

>>51958599
Newfag here. These threads are easy to find, but what I search for more general 5e greentexta

>DMing
>players are knee-high in sawgrass and muck in the middle of a wetland
>tell them that there's no land in sight for miles, they can continue throughout the night if they choose
>they oblige
>continue walking and they gain one level of exhaustion
>they finally make it to dry land
>they decide to continue despite the fact they can long rest now
>uh okay, you sure? you get disadvantage on ability checks
>yeah whatever
>they keep walking
>ask for someone to roll survival at disadvantage
>they get pissed and say that it's not an ability check, it's a skill
>a skill is an ability check, you mong
>"you can make up rules if you want, that's fine, but you're wrong, skills are not ability checks"
>these words make my blood boil to this day
>show him in the PHB where it groups skills as ability checks
>still doesn't buy it
>rolls poorly anyway

Rule policing is annoying enough. Now I'm being rule policed by someone who hasn't even read the PHB.

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>>51958917
ability checks are flat rolls with only your stats to boost, skill checks are ablity checks with added proficency bonus.

SKILL CHECKS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

I'd make him pass out on the spot for that shit.

>>51958917
>>51958967


Now what I don't get is why skill checks fall under the umbrella of ability checks, but saving throws don't

>>51959034
Saving throws to me seemed to be "Oh shit, it's crunch time" and it's purely instinctual. Even if you're exhausted, you'll wake up real quick if a flaming boulder is hurtling through the cavern towards you, or you just witnessed a demon lord rise from the depths of some hellscape and let out a mighty roar.

Checks are conscious efforts, while saving throws are natural reactions.

>>51959034
because savings throws are meant to be the stats that your class is proficent in.
it basicly makes each class a little bit different from each other.

it makes a sharpshooter feel different from a hunter

>>51958599

>Huh, how about that, you were right.

One sentence from you and the matter is done. It was shitty of him to keep bringing it up, but it was also shitty of you to not just eat your peas. And then letting it bother you so much that you had to post about it here?

>>51959156

But That Guy wasn't right. He wasn't a class that could use the rules he was quoting, and then interpreted it wrong again.