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Does this guy look angry enough to be a chaplain? I don't know whether to make him a chaplain, a champion or a praetor even.

>"TRAITOR FUCKING SHITS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

>>51951730
>no skull hat
NOT MY CHAPLAIN

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>>51951730
Looks as if he had just read the SW's and TS's rules

>>51951730
That pose reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRdxUFDoQe0

Looks like a Delegatus to me, not blinged enough to be a praetor or chaplain, loadout sucks for a champion but he does like he could be second in command.

>>51951790
>not blinged enough to be a praetor or chaplain
DG don't really care about bling though

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Reading through the Talons tactica on 1d4chan, and it's basically one long article about how amazing they are at melee and how invincible every model is. Is this the usual brand of exaggeration? The DG player and WE player at my store are both building Custodes armies, so do I stand a chance with Mechanicum? I suspect I may have to pull out a few war crimes to get rid of those S:D dreads, though.

Anyone played a game with/vs the new Custodes or Titan Guard? How did it go?

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>>51951766

So now that the dust is settled, what do you like/dislike about

>Sisters
>Custodes
>Sons
>Wolves

need help picking a legion.

starting a marine army and might as well make one that i can play in 2 games. For the 40k side i was planning to go raptors chapter tactics, which legion would best fit a long range/sniper+stealth style?

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>>51951730
Needs some moar to be a chaplain imo, not sure what thought.

>>51951758
He could paint up his face with a skull, like Shiban Khan

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>>51951814
I'm a bit bummed they aren't using the round aspires shields (hoplons) the hoplites were famed for.
Reduce them to pure infantry as fast as you can, anon. Their tanks and dreads are too dangerous.
>>51951903
Post the other one.

>>51951970
Your looking at either the Alpha Legion or Raven Guard to fit those themes

>>51951974
Never liked black nose skull faces.

It always look clown like and looks like tumblr nose gone beyond the impossible.

>>51951970
>For the 40k side i was planning to go raptors chapter tactics, which legion would best fit a long range/sniper+stealth style?

Raven Guard, do a Recon Company supported by Mor Deythan squads and deep striking dreadnoughts.

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>>51951974
>He could paint up his face with a skull, like Shiban Khan
Insane clown posse kid's party face paint or a badass skull helmet?
Decisions, decisions...
Everything is better with helmets.

>>51951974
Juggalo Khan

>>51951991
They could have done that, but even if it's not completely accurate I do think the kiteish shields suit them better, especially with the cog emblem on it.
Hopefully they won't have much in the way of armour, those guys are expensive, so my one Hoplite kill team and the Lightning should be able to deal with them, since my big guns will need to be dropping sweet sweet S10 on their infantry.

Do they have the volume of attacks to clear tarpits, or would Adsecs and Cult Hordes do a decent job? With those stats they're not losing units fast enough for me to just hit them as they come.

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>>51952000
>>51952030
>>51952067
Stop clowning around guys

>>51952067
>Fucking Jetbikes, how do they work.

So if i am reading this right, giving the custdeos dread the spear of the D, gives him 6 attacks (walker with 3 CCW) base, 2 heavy storm bolters AND a heavy D3 las cannon

jesus holy Emperor, thats mad

>>51952082
>Do they have the volume of attacks to clear tarpits
With those melee weapons? Nah, they exist to bodyblock infantry away from Titans and be harder than usual to kill with their invulnerable and defensive on top of the hand-daddy (kyropatris) field.

On the Taghmata's particular case, they also exist to suicide drop in an arvus the way legiones astartes wish their melta tac support squads could.

>>51952100
HONK

>>51952182
Even better, because of forgeworld's kerrrr-AZZY rules writing, if you roll a single 6 to hit on the charge, all 7 attacks have the D.

>>51952259
i mean sure, but if anyone every tried that, i think would refuse to play then, that clearly not RAI

>>51951836
Adjusted as in their whole "The First" and knightly themes, not their Sikret traitor Gayluminati theme.
Which is a meme
Because it's not a secret

>>51952100
THEY ALL FLOAT DOWN HERE

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>>51951730
>Death Guard
>chaplains

>>51952441
"I didn't read Echoes of Old Nigh", the post.
It's just a "but more destroyers" story, though

>>51952218
Yeah, I was talking about the Custodes, but I didn't make that clear, sorry.

Sadly the Peltasts lack the punch they have in 40k, but large blocks of permanently BS5 Skitarii Vanguard in transports with FnP buffs and very good transports are still pretty damn shiny. I've done the maths, with Axiarch Feel No Pain and a Titan they take 18.5% of small arms fire wounds. That makes them basically Terminators but with more easily negated saves. Certainly tougher than your standard Astartes Tacticals. Hoplites are gloriously insane at their job and nice and sticky deepstriking (without mishap in Ruins) scoring Troops in Arvus.

>>51952591
I love how there's basically no disadvantage to activating the hazard protocols against astartes armies (i.e. most 30k armies). WS2 I2 is exactly the same as WS3 I3 when fighting marines.

>>51952524
What's this?

>>51952694
DG destroyers led by their Chaplain siege a crashed IF ship. It's where the "Locked tighter than Dorn's arsecheeks" quote comes from.
In the Mega

>>51952650
>WS2 I2 is exactly the same as WS3 I3 when fighting marines.

Another reason why the Tau aren't properly stat'd. They should be Str2.

>>51951814
I played a 1500pts game with my Custards (the few models I have for now). The Shield-Captain and Hetaeron are very painful if you don't have nasty things to ID them, Look Out Sir for everybody in the squad makes them way more durable as a squad than what you may expect.

Use tarpits. Custodes are very few in number and the basic guys have only 2 attacks, they can't deal with them (extra attacks on a 6 to hit is not a big thing). Shoot the fucking Dreads, try to scout/deep-strike something in the ass of any Caladius. Bring blobs, play a mission where you need to hold objectives and everything will be fine.

>>51952650
Well, unless you're scrapping with Death Guard or Wolves and for some reason you had enough equipment on your Alpha to stand a chance in a sergeant fight, and even then you certainly get more out of the BS2 overwatch, killing three Marines right there.

Best thing about Hoplites is going to be the staggering amount of retaliation they'll be subject to once the Spartan/Fellblade/Stormlord/Whatever is destroyed or crippled and the opponent realises that they can keep doing that while being Marine-level sticky and scoring in his backfield. I can't see them doing much to anything without an AV, but they'll be perfectly worth the 254 for guaranteed Spartan elimination. I wouldn't be surprised to see 800pt Primarchstars waste a turn on them.

>>51953018
Oh great, 3W 5e style Nob Bikers with better saves. They can suck artillery all game long, I think.

Only two attacks? I suppose I'm used to the 40k Custodes with four or five each.
Tossing down 100 Levies seems like the obvious approach, or possibly 60 Adsecularis in smaller groups.
Treating the skimmers as Wave Serpents with better armour, I have Lightnings and Thallax for that. Re. Dreads, not much in my army that a charge from a regular Legion Dreadnought won't kill but that will save my Archmagos, and he's hiding.

How's their mobility in practice? Been plenty of talk re. Master of Ambush and Deepstrike, did you use those much?
Arae Shrikes do anything much?

>>51953416
If you go the tarpit route, just be careful of their terminators (once models are out for them). They can put an S6 flamer with Torrent on every model, which will make a mess of almost any blob.

>>51953018
How do custodes handle dreads in melee ? Like if you send in a few contemptors, do the custodes not care, woop the dreadnoughts' asses or start crying because of all the Str 10 attacks ?

>>51953570
Some custodes get power fists. Plus s10 hits are s10 hits whether you are T4 or T5

>>51953570
Anyone without a solerite(?) power fist or a warblade thing will probably struggle somewhat, the dread should hopefully remove a few at least, they're about equal points

What exactly did the DA raiding Xana steal?

>>51953645
scorias archaeotech hentai collection

>>51953657
That's rad.

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So is this a thunder hammer or a power maul? Or is both?.

>>51953698
definitely a hammer
but it could be a maul if you wanted

>>51953698
Hammer.

>>51953518
A Torrent flamer with the exact stats to kill Levies with Cult Horde and Tainted Flesh on 2+ no saves, which was not an accident. One competent bit of rules writing in that book.

Luckily they're not quite as effective against the Adsecularis or the Secutarii especially. Thinking the most effective techique may be to dump 16.33 wounds on them from a Vanguard squad, since they'll tank artillery and AP2 just fine.

Aquilions scare me, true. I'll have to think of a trick there.

>>51953645

Attempted to take three Ordinatus Minoris Ulator-class, Xana's present to the good Warmaster for all his sponsorship. Got two, one was destroyed when the attack force was decimated by Scoria's advancing daemonbots. As far as we know, they were put to use at the Titandeath, whatever that is.

>>51953645
Is this in book 6?

>>51953797
Book six,
The Xana Incursion. One time we've seen Scoria in action, even if just by proxy, and he takes apart an Astartes assault force handily. Looking forward to more of him, if we get it. Mechanicum does it's best work independent. The Black Judges, Xana, all that jazz

>>51953645
A super bad ass Xeno ship. After single handedly raping half the squid monster fleet.
With one DAoT cruiser.
DA confirmed for badassness.

>>51953790
Bitch it has Endrak Har who jacked Zana's gifts to Horus.
The loyalist WE so badass Angron and Kharn sent him into NOT!exile so they could feel less like little whiny bitches.

For Imperial Fist terminators; Plasma Blaster or Assault Cannon?. Cant decide, both are too fucking cool.

>>51954438

Lazy answer: assault cannon (because why wouldn't you when you're IF?)

Correct answer: magnets

>>51954356

He was the sneakiest World Eater to have ever lived.

>>51951921
>TS
Like: everything
Dislike: underpriced HQs making non-named HQs a bad idea
>Sisters
Dislike: lack of units

>>51954438
Assault cannon you fool

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If TSons can get their own special dreadnought, surely WE can get Ursus Dreads? I wouldn't even care if they were an exclusive upgrade for Boxnaughts because their stockier, stouter forms make better anchors or something, I'd take a full talon of them.

>>51954482

>Dislike: underpriced HQs making non-named HQs a bad idea

Consider it an extra incentive to play traitors, or an extra challenge to play loyalists.

>>51954520

WE will get Ursusnoughts at the Siege of Terra. Enjoy your long wait.

>>51954520
>put a warhound sized weapon on dreadnaughts
Fucking Angron.

>>51954555

I don't know what got the WE got all killed at Siege of Terra more, Sanguinus going full revengeance or Angron generally making poor policy decisions.

>>51954305
Well, the Xanatite fleet kicked the arse of the Loyalist one then returned to base when the Dangles blew up the orbital platforms. They didn't exactly take it on man-to-man. Also, Xenos ship? I don't remember reading anything about that.

Hoping we get some new fluff for the Mechanicum sometime, since so far there's been quite a lot of marines jerking off in our stories. Can we have an Admech story sometimes where there are no Marines, no Ctan or Emperor bullshit and no random shoehorning of the Admech being incompetent all the time?

>>51954615

You should be grateful Mechanicum have been getting as much coverage as it has, compared to "literally footnotes" Eldar.

>>51954610
>Angron competing with Sangy at anything
You're a funny guy anon.

>>51954642

I don't know, Angron would beat Sangy at the climbing segments of Ninja Warrior

>>51954668
I'm not entirely familiar with Ninja Warrior, but how is anyone going to beat someone who can fly at climbing?

>>51954742
Because it's about climbing, not flying. Come in, man, try to keep up here.

>>51954759
Is there a rule against simply using you wings to fly to the top?

>>51954778
your wings

>>51954800

There is in Ninja Warrior 30k

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what did the postman bring you today?

>>51954831
Bills

>>51954831
What's that spider model in the background?

>>51954831
Sprue of Shapeways cataphractii pads.

>>51954828
Damn, those fucks thought of everything.
Alright, Angron would likely win the climbing challenge in Ninja Warrior 30k.
>>51954831
Are those dragon dildos?

>>51954831

Nothing. Again. It's going to be weeks before I get Inferno. Why is the post so fucking slow?

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>>51954845
Its a reaper model im using for a Megarachnids force

>>51954885
>weeks
Where the fuck do you live, Mexico?

>>51954831

Nothing today, but I got my Dreadclaw yesterday. Cleaned it off last night, scraped away the mold slips, and did some dry fitting. Looks like it'll be fine, so I'll glue after work tonight.

Otherwise, I have some magnets coming this week because my other resin is a few weeks out.

>>51954906
>Weeks
Certainly not Mexico, here the post takes months.

>>51954906

Australia.

>>51954941
>an efficient postal service is one of the first signifiers of a working civilisation
Consider me both educated and saddened by this news about the infrastructure of your country.

>>51954885
>>51954979
Is this Scanon?

>>51953570
>>51953570
They almost all have access to melta bombs, and Valdor cause penetrating hit on 4+ no matter the armour.

>>51955005

No. Scananon is somewhere in the US.

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>>51955005

>>51955005

Scanon is a lie.

Are Meltabombs still worth taking in squads now that you can only use one in combat? I'm not sure if the 25pts is worth it on drop pod vets rocking combi-melta when only one gets to use it.

>>51954979
Oh. Australia doesn't count for normal travel times from anywhere in the west, anon, it's basically the moon to us.

>>51953518
Even without the flamer, they have twin-linked S5 AP4 Assault 2 guns + HoW + 4 (5 if you assume misericordia is CCW) master-crafted attacks each on the charge. Not as durable as the Hetaeron, but the damage output of this unit is fucking insane for just 20 points more than a Custodian guard.

>>51955113
Don't blame us, it's not our fault we didn't set up a proper postal service for a continent sized prison.

>>51954634
>eldar getting more than a footnote
>eldar doing more than a footnotes worth of stuff
Other than licking wounds and getting their shit kicked eldar did nothing during the heresy.

>>51955104
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SCANON'S LIGHT WILL SHINE AGAIN., UNBELIEVER.

>>51955106
Nah forget it. Buy a couple more combi-weapons or stuff.

>>51954831
Chinese heavy flamers. Surprisingly high quality, given they're ebay shit.

>>51954992
Yeah, it's rather saddening.

It's not even a bad system, it's simply full of ineptitude. Any package not from the US remains in the backlog at a warehouse for months until they decide to ship it.
Once it's out of said warehouse it takes up to a week to reach anywhere in the republic.

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>this will never be me and Senpai
JUST

>>51955322
You and Konrad will never be a large lump of plastic?
Am I missing something here?

>>51955322
Worry not, if I ever have the displeasure of meeting you, I won't hesitate to dump your fat corpse in a garbage bag along with any Curze memorabilia you happen to own.

>>51955368
T-thanks anon

>>51954831
Nothing.

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I'm reading The Path of Heaven. Man, the feels. Surprisingly good book, BL or not.

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Sup /TG/!

New Heresy player here. Just decided to start my army after learning the motherfucking Space Wolves got their own rules. As soon as I saw that I bought the Betrayal of Cath set and Leman Russ, Primarch of the Space Wolves.

I was wondering, how can I make a good list with Russ and the contents of the box? I've already painted a few dudes, pic related.

For Fenris!

>>51955586
Rebirth, Brotherhood of the Storm, Scars, Allegiance, The Path of Heaven and Last Son of Prospero is possibly the best story arc in the series.

>>51955586

Chris Wraight is good.

>>51955609
Heh, that mini looks like an oil painting. It's not a bad effect, actually. I kinda like it. Moving forward, thin your paints, your washes too, and give edge highlighting a try.

SW might be able to pull off footslogging troops thanks to Gray Slayers' special rules. Just try to give them a few power weapons and power fists. If you can get upgrade kits to convert the Catphractii to Deathsworn, do so. Run the Calth Terminator character with them.

Russ is a little ridiculous (OP) against other characters and primarchs (some can't damage him in later rounds of combat) but he doesn't do much else. He may need a transport.

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>>51955721
No, but I mean a good army using only the box, I don't want to invest in this game until I know it's good and I'm not gonna lose every game.

>>51955792
>not just enjoying the hobby same as everyone else

you won't lose, wolves might have restrictive list building limitations but they're still good

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>Prospero ain't free. The path of psychic enlightment gotta be littred with the blood of space wulves. The Emperor aka "Daaaad" is not my leader. he is a book burning tyrnt and brobably a furry as well. :DD KNOWLEDGE and MAGIC not IGNORENCE and SUBERSTITION ok. praise tzeentch.

Any of you anons with better art skills than I who can make a Magnus Spurdo to go with this text?

>>51955792
You won't win every game without vehicles.

>>51955792
>No, but I mean a good army using only the box, I don't want to invest in this game until I know it's good

Right, here's an idea

Priest of Fenris [Oath of the Dead]

3xVeteran Squads [Equipment is whatever, take Marskman for better bolters and outflank or Weapon Masters and some power weapons]

Wolf Guard Terminators [Lighting Claws plus a heavy weapon or something]

Contemptor Dread

Leman Russ

Thats like 1500pts, maybe more not sure. I dont think its good but its what you can make with it, I'd advise taking Orbital Assault and deep striking everything in drop pods/flyers or stock up on flyers and run one of the SW RoW.

Sup anons, im just starting in 30k, going with the golden bananas. I currently have. 5 built, 10 more and a contemptor galatus in the mail. Any thoughts on how i should approach building a list? Converting weapons? Should i wait for more forgeworld releases? Fukkin halp friendos

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>Decide to post badly painted yiff waacfaggotry using some awful models I found online.
>People are actually helpful and compliment the models.
>still waiting for dem (You)s

What the fuck happened to this place?

>>51956044
THIN YOUR PAINTS

THE EYES

GOOD GOD THE EYES

>>51956044
So is Russ your waifu or what?

>>51956044
We decided to try and be nice(ish) if people weren't actually rude first. It's not universal, some times of day are more cheeki than others. But the thread was too negative for a while.

In that spirit, the Man at Arms Reforged youtube channel put up a norse viking axe build recently that's pretty much what the fluff describes SW axes as. Complete with knotwork and animal engraving and shit. They did it coz of a video game, but it was still mildly interesting.
They're the same people that built that working chainsword.

>>51955609
>>51955792
>>51956044
It's like 3D Blanche art.


In other news, studded pauldrons. Any info on how you'd mark them. Legion marks should go on the left one, right, but if it's all studded up, you can put the markings on there.

>>51956028
No need to wait. You'll want transports and some fast stuff. Avoid Valdor and the cyber-familiar on the shield-captain if you want to keep friends. Hard to go wrong, really. (Biggest complaint against Valdor is deep strike.)

>>51956150
for Mk V and VI with studded shoulder pads legion marking goes on the right side instead of left. This is useful when you have a praetor or sergeant with one arm always the same but want different melee arms (chainsword/PF/LC)

>>51956217
>for Mk V and VI with studded shoulder pads legion marking goes on the right side instead of left

Is there some official source for this?

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>>51956257
Look at any mk VI model FW has done, RG in raid on kastorel-novem comes to mind.

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>>51955586
>tfw after 2 months you've read everything from Outcast Dead up to Master of Mankind

It's a shame it's probably too late to do a DG book though

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The list I'm playing this week. Very, very few flyers in my meta.

>>51956484
>It's a shame it's probably too late to do a DG book though

BL probably thinks Flight of the Eisenstein counts as a Death Guard book.

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>>51956541

>>51956484
No, they said they were going to give them a proper novel, presumably about Mortarian giving into Papa Nurgle. That happens on the way to Terra, after all, and he's spent a couple of books (Vengeful Spirit and Path of Heaven) looking for Calas Typhon and trying to use the warp in a restrained way, with everyone telling him that resistance is futile.

>>51956541
>>51956549
You'll get the one were the whole Legion cries, gives up and falls to Nurgle.

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>>51956484
>>51956541
Being Mortarion is suffering.

>>51956576

Chris Wraight has been penciled in to write it. Seeing that he's done a great job with Morty thus far, I'm quietly hyped.

Better him that James Swallow again.

>>51956508
Pretty good. I'd consider attack bikes at some point... shooty and still decent in assault. Some people even use them in place of a command squad.

>>51956615

Yeah definitely, I love my attack bikes. I just subbed them out for some jetbikes this week to shake things up. My 3000 point list has them though.

>>51956484
Including the anthologies?

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>>51956576
>>51956587
Cool, what else have they got left before Siege of Terra apart from Caliban and Tallarn?

>>51956639
Yes, but not the independent audiobooks/novellas included in the various anthologies (except Promethean Sun)

desu I sort of prefer the short stories/novellas to the book-length ones
>mfw The Final Compliance of Sixty-Three Fourteen

>>51956719
that weren't* included in the anthologies, fuck

>>51956719
The Ruinstorm is a confirmed title and it should result in the BA getting to Terra. Wouldn't be surprised if it also resulted in the Night Lords getting back together again, since they're supposed to be present on Terra.

Then we've got:
The battle that crushes the Space Wolves. The taking of Anvillus, where a lot of Land Raiders are made (I'm guessing it won't get a novel, or will be rolled into Horus's final approach toward the Solar System). The Titandeath. Still dont' know what the Cataclysm of Iron is but it shows up on FW's timeline. Battles in the Solar System.

I assume something happens on Mars after the Siege of Terra.

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>>51956954
>The battle that crushes the Space Wolves

That's not the Yarant one in Corax/Weregeld, is it?
>all those other titles

Shit, and here I was thinking that the White Scars arriving in the Sol system might've meant we were getting close

HAHA, TIME FOR MORE SHATTERED LEGION ESCAPADES

>>51957105
Oh they covered it already? Yeah, it was Yarant. Was Corax worth reading? Speaking of Corax, how'd he make it through the warp storms to Terra shortly after Isstvan V? (Haven't read anything RG related, clearly.)

I'm not in a hurry; I'd rather they took their time to wrap up all the loose ends they've got. I'll be a little sad when the series is over.

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>>51956954

The Cataclysm of Iron is also known as the Dispute of Iron. It's a huge all-Mechanicum war between a dozen Forgeworlds.

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>>51957159
>Speaking of Corax, how'd he make it through the warp storms to Terra shortly after Isstvan V?
Cheeki breeki powers

>>51954521
TS doesn't have the "this character may be used in the Traitor/Loyalist army" text.

>>51957159

Wasn't Corax fucking off ON Istvaan for like a year?

>>51957159
>Was Corax worth reading?

Eh, I didn't really think so. Corax goes full emo because an enemy sorcerer mentions the hand Chaos had in creating the primarchs AND possibly saving him by sending Marcus the Therion leader visions of him on Isstvan 5, NOTHING GOOD CAN COME FROM ROTTEN ROOTS *cough* does this remind you of the Raptors yet? *cough*

>>51957226
Wasn't he on Isstvan for a few weeks? There's another guy in the Corax anthology that was on Isstvan for two years, but IIRC Corax left it before the whole Ruinstorm thing

I liked Arvida storyline as well. Sad part was that he wasn't the founder of the Blood Ravens.

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>>51947953
Thanks anon.
Not sure what the best way would be to do an "Old Night" list or lists, but I'd probably start with Death Guard

>>51946330
That's true anon - the imperium has of course its heroes as well as its monsters

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Can't wait til Angelus arrives. Gonna climax to the Dark Angels "teaching" the Night Lords about void warfare.

>>51957548
Your kink is bad and you should feel bad.

>>51956719
>apart from Caliban
Caliban happened during the Scouring.

>>51957580
Really? Because Angels ends with the Lion returning to Caliban

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>>51957564
>UHNNN FHHHUCK CURZE GETTING PLACED INTO A COMA BY THE LION.
>OHHH POUND MY PUSSY, 1/5TH OF THE NIGHT LORDS LEGION GETTING DESTROYED.
>YES YES GIVE ME YOUR CUM, AN ENTIRE TITAN LEGION BEING LOST DUE TO THE NIGHT LORD'S RECKLESS BEHAVIOR.
>OHHHHHH I'MMM GONNNAA CUUUUUM

>>51957803

BAD

AND

YOU

SHOULD

FEEL

BAD

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>>51957829
Feels so good. Makes my pussy feel like all sore afterwards. But it's worth it.

>>51957548
>>51957564
>>51957803
>>51957829
>>51957934

Go and hatefuck somewhere else please.

TUCHULCHA

>>51958015
You heard the man. Meet you at Thramas in 10 months, faggot.

Ok, is anyone with Inferno on here? Can they please tell me what year Zhou-Arkkad was found by the Thousand Sons?

Is the ouroboros post heresy only for Thousand Sons?

>>51958015
It's Weird,Hot,Weirdly Hot And Hotly Weird.........Continue.

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You've just gone done with your assault phase when these Sekhmets cast Iron Arm and Warp Speed on themselves. How do you defend yourself against this incoming onslaught?

>>51958852
be glad I play semi-msu and the loss of one squad will not stop the rest of my list from doing it's job?

>>51954615
> missed the whole point as to why the DA were ever there
Nigga can you even read

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>>51958852
Tell them to suck dick as Sigismund skull-fucks the entire unit.

Does anyone even field more than 1 Achilles Land Raider at a time?

>>51959309
Too bad Ahriman would skull fuck him afterwards with mind bullets...take you fancy sword elsewhere.

Ahriman best First Captain.

Who has the best special terminators and why?

Ordered a Leviathan with the snippy claw, siege drill, graviton bombard and melta lance. Post inspiring images of Leviathans or tell me which Legion's colours it would look best in

>>51959462
Probably sekhmets. Fire drakes are a close second.

>>51959381
>mind bullets
>on divination
Come on anon. Divination has absolutely 0 witchfires

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>>51959499

ALL LEGIONS SHARE THE SAME COLORS ON THE INSIDE

PAINT WITH THE COLOR OF UNITY

>>51956484
Incorrect.

a Death Guard book is next. At the end of Path of Heaven, Mortarions like" now to go find Typhus and find out why the fugg he has been avoiding my texts".

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Hey nerds, what do you guys think of muh colour scheme? any thoughts on how the bolter should be painted, and if I should swap out the bronze faceplate for silver?

>>51959462
1. Sekhmets dues to psyker bonuses
2. It's a tie between Justaerin and Fire Drakes, depends on if you want a little more shooty or close combat, both are very versatile though
3. All the rest

>>51959646
Just wait till the Deathwing are here.
Sekhmets won't stand a fucking chance.

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>>51954831

BBC for my wife

>>51959646

>3. All the rest

+3 IF shield termies is one of the top by virtue of +3 invuln, with an option to put up an invuln shield for a termie assault cannon

>>51959677
>implying Deathwing will be a unit and not a RoW
Deathwing Protocol soon, brother.

>>51959677

Deathshroud 2.0, halberds instead of scythes, [REDACTED] weapons instead of rotten egg bombs. Not worried.

>>51959719
shitty frogposter

>>51959722
Those are generic termies, though.

>>51959719
Why is your wife getting bromobenzyl cyanide?

>>51959769

>Those are generic termies, though.

Oh right, my bad.

This may sound like a stupid question, but I am wondering about the Orbital Assault RoW. Am I allowed to start with anything on the table?

>>51959823
Yes, everything has to have the option to deep strike but nowhere does it say that everything must deep strike. So you can have your assault marines begin in the table rather than deep strike for example.

>>51959823
Personally, I would rule it as you don't NEED to start with anything on the board because fluff.
>Muh orbital assault
>Need units on ground already

But if you have a RAW fag your playing with, he's gonna instantly point out how according to forgeworld you lose if you ever have no models on the table meaning you have to something on the board, FW at its finest

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Friends, tell me. What do you think of the color scheme I am going for with Dark Mechanicum Thallax?

>>51959876
you only lose if you have no models on the table at the end of your turn, not at any point

Aspiring player here. I'm looking at collecting Blood Angels. I hear thst Angelus is going to change some of their current rites. Should I wait until it's released to start building my legion?

>>51959907
Forgeworld had a ruling on one of their books (I thinks it's the age of darkness) in that if you don't have any models on the table at any point you lose.

The at the end of your turn thing is a 40k thing, albeit I think it's just a case of forgeworld not double checking rules

>>51959848

But I would have to use Drop Pods for Tac Marines, right?

>>51959963
Technically you could stuff them in a storm eagle if you purchase one as fast attack choice, but yeah, under normal circumstances you will need drop pods

Since we are talking orbital assault. I came across a drop pod by a happy accident. Now I have never considered or even wanted a drop pod army but since I got one, I feel obligated to use it.

How many more drop pods do I need to buy before it turns into a good strategy rather than a novelty model?

>>51960022
A lot of them, and you'll want some varetiy on them depending on what your objectives are. Don't forget about deep striking terminators with OA though

>>51959989

Ok. I was just wondering because someone mentioned some weird "loophole" that sounded stupid. They said that because they can take drop pods RAW they CAN Deepstrike or something, and that was enough to fulfill the restriction.

Also, Dread/Assault claws are acceptable too, right?

I might grab some Ass Marines and pod in some support squads backed up by teleporting termies if I can get a Vox on the table. Seems like that could be fun for Night Lords. The assault vanguard RoW feels a little too constricting, and I'm not 100% sure if a Terror Assault will be able to deal with armor as well as I'd like.

Which legion is worst legion and why is it the Night Lords ?

>>51959728
1st Company is best company of the 1st and best legion.

>>51960154

Hey, c'mon man... That's totally true kill me

>>51960154
Because they aren't the Dark Angels.[spolier]

>>51960154

Like most legions, they were desgned for curbstomps instead of straight up fights.
Unlike most legions, they could not adjust to conventional warfare.
Even the fucking Word Bearers can into battlefield tactics.

>>51960196
God, this is so fucking true. The Night Lords were thugs in power armour and quite frankly a mistake. This is part of the reason they failed miserably during the Thramas Crusade. "Uh, wow gee guys maybe we shouldn't go up against a legion with void superiority and I dunno go pick on some civilians."

>>51960154
Speaking of shitty Night Lords, Do you think they will get any new units or Rites in the next book which should cover Tharmas.

Or is it just gonna be DA dick riding?

>>51960301
They said NL will be getting new units/ROW/characters I believe.

>>51960252

Apparently, loyalist stragglers joining up with other loyalist bastions did very well for themselves as NL tactics excel best when complimenting a prolonged campaign.

Its just that Kurze was a fucking moron.

>>51960324

I expect the entire council chamber of characters which were present at his assassination to get special stats. Maybe even a special RoW where you can field a NL army almost entirely of Kurze and his Batman Family.

>>51960336

>Its just that Kurze was a fucking moron.
>Fact Check
>100% Correct

Inferno fluff leak when?

>>51960154
Nah, it's SoH.

which happens to be my Legion

>>51960359
Talos when?

heresy Talos is just an apothecary with ML1 Divination

>>51960411
Angelus scans when?

>>51956484
It took 7 months for me
You are fast

>>51952752
Did you mean Echoes of the Long War?

>>51960411
>>51960463

reprint with grammatical corrections when?

>>51959633
I love it, I love you

>>51960097
That loophole shouldn't work because they don't have access to the deep strike rule until an appropriate transport is purchased and they must begin in said transport as per the RoW. Other wise, technically speaking, you could take things like rhinos or even land raiders due to the stormbird and thunderhawk transporter existing as lords of war choices that can deep strike....

Dreadnought Drop Pods, Anvilus, and Kharybdis drop pods are fine, just read the rules on dreadnought talons because they function somewhat differently with OA

Depending on who your playing with, talk to them about how the whole, no models on the table thing is gonna work, because that may drastically change the way you build your army.

Just remember, when playing any drop pod list, each unit needs to have a specific role it can preform upon landing and you want to try and maximize your alpha strike.

So Vets and Tactical Support squads are good for Alpha-ing thing while terminators are a good follow up to finish something else off while presenting a fresh threat. If you take regular tacs, save them for objectives

Dreadnought talons can be hilarious and don't be afraid to bring a Leviathan in to fuck something up hard

>I like orbital assault

>>51951730
that's a big mace

>>51960662
thank you anon, i love you too
any thoughts on how to do the base?

>>51960762

>tfw you don't need OA because you're TS

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>>51960882
>tfw when XVI legion doesn't get a special OA RoW despite being the OA legion

>>51960762

Well, I get pods in a Terror assault, but only on Vets, Terrors, and Tacs. My Elites is remarkably booked it I want to use Terminators. Sadly, I think my best use of that slot is 2 units of Combi vets in pods and a Contemptor in a dreadclaw. That's why I was looking elsewhere

>>51960920

Death Guard needs a special RoW which allows them to crash a battle barge onto the battlefield and deploy from it at the start of the game.

>>51960154

Night Lords were like, on the very razor edge of being acceptable despite how shit they were, then they just got piledriven into the ground by the massive influx of obnoxious faggots who like them.

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>>51960469
Too much spare time 2bh

>>51959583
>mfw the inevitable scene where Morty cries for the Emps to save him like he did on Barbarus before realising he's Papa Nurgle's bitch now

>>51951730
I really like the model.
Aren't power mauls shit ruleswise though?

>>51961018
/40kg/ has no less than 3 individual shit posters who ruined it for the rest of us.

>>51961078
Yes, but being a chaplain means that you should always have a maul. If your chaplain isn't beating you with a club, something has gone wrong.

>>51961136

It's called a crozius you fucker. That's a clubbing.

>>51961159
Sure, name your fancy golf trophy whatever you want.

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>>51953698
>It's also a hammer

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>>51961247
>NO VULKAN NO!

>>51961247
The only redeeming aspect of that book.

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>>51960493
He means this.

Distant echoes of old night. A really ducking grim short story.
> imperial fist vessel crashlands in a bog
>death guard land to wipe the out
>the death guard are all destroyers and a warden ie chaplain (because he's described as skull he led and blacke armoured)
>both sides use phophex on the ship as it's sinking into the muck.
> brutal and I mean brutal combat
> waist deep in muck in a sinking ship, while all parties are literally melting from the phoshex
>death guard said something along the lines of " we both know absolutely no one is leaving this planet alive
> both sides die. Ship sinks. Allusions to nurgle being pleased because it's a fetid, stinking bog world claiming more dead.

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>>51960982
I endorse this message

>>51960982
There needs to be a generic fortifying RoW and an IF one that's better in every way.

>>51961321
>>both sides use phophex on the ship as it's sinking into the muck.
Just traitor DG did. Namely 2 phosphex bombs.

Then Chaplain says they need to confirm everyone is dead. So they have to walk through phosphex and confirm ded bodies

>>51961385
The Castilion Force Org or the Raid - Defender Force Org from book 4 are the closest you can get to that right now. You can't use RoW with them but they have some nice bonuses and give 3 fortifications.

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>>51959633
White guns are a must. Well not white but off-white like Ulthuan Grey.

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>>51961429
Here's a 30k version.

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>>51961321
>In the empty blackness, the Chaplain’s thoughts returned to the tale of Mortarion’s ascension that he had told the Destroyers to inspire them, and fortify their spirit. To his surprise and disappointment, he found precious little of inspiration in the story now. Picturing Mortarion on the toxic slopes of Barbarus served only to remind him that the poisoned environs of their home world had actually defeated the primarch, and it had been down to the Emperor to save his fallen son.

>There would be no one to save Morgax Murnau. The Chaplain remembered Phorgal’s insistence that there should be no survivors aboard the Xanthus.

>Indeed, there would be none.

So how scary would Amon Outflanking with three Castellax-Achea be?

>>51961460
Depends on your other psyker. Amon himself is telepathy and divination which doesn't make for very scary channeling bot.

>>51961451

Traitors get their due. The Sons of Dorn did their best and ensured that the Traitors never made it to Terra.

>No man died in his service that died in vain.

>>51961429
>>51961446
i might give it a shot, but i'm not sure it'll fit with the gritty, greasy army

>>51961509
>channeling bot

People actually care about that?

Castellax are really strong, but also really immobile and Outflanking really helps with that. Meanwhile, Amon could either roll on Telepathy for Shriek and Invisibility/Shrouding to boost their survivability, or get Divination to twinlink them and give them 4++/Ignore Cover.

It seems pretty expensive though.

>>51961526

I think gunmetal is the safe choice.

>>51957658
No, it doesn't.

>>51961540

Castellax seems like a pretty expensive gimmick in general. WS3 BS4 does not a scary robot make. Psychic ping pong is also very gimmicky and situational. And if the enemy just bombs all the psykers around the Castellax, then what else do you got to work with?

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>>51961451

>>51961552
You're probably right, but I'm sure Angels of Caliban ended with the Lion telling his fleet to make for Caliban (shortly before the epilogue with Luther greeting Typhon's ship)

>>51961526

Make the panel casing the same color as their faceplates.

>>51961540
The issue is that it does very little in what TS really need. I mean, with Magnus on the field, it all becomes moot point, but TS with psychic powers will need anti tank and anti air. Castellax doesn't really bring anything new in that department.

If it brought a really good gun then I would consider them, but as of now, they are just cute toys

>>51961446
Nicely done.

>>51961610

>TS with psychic powers will need anti tank and anti air

And this niche is easily filled with a Deredeo or Mortisnoughts, putting the cherry on top of an already very shooty army.

>>51961629
which takes up very valuable slots and points for TS. Basically you are gonna have to start with Robots first if you want to use these things.

>>51961650

>which takes up very valuable slots and points for TS

Deredeo takes up Heavy, Mortis takes up Elites. Unless you aren't using the Legion Pride or High King RoW, then its not hard at all to just pick and choose like a buffet.

>Do I want to spam veterans and shit dreadnoughts down my opponents throat
>Or do I want a termie orgy with a side of Deredeo

Add your favorite units and boom, you got a competitive force that can shoot those pesky Fire Raptors out of the sky.

>>51961696
>Unless you aren't using the Legion Pride or High King RoW, then its not hard at all to just pick and choose like a buffet.
You mean the RoW that will see the most play?

wow a thread without the back due to popular demand guy nice

>>51961780

He does that in 30k general too?

Is it wrong that I want to run PotL as NL just so I can teleport a bunch of Tartaros down while freeing up my elites for Contemptors in Dreadclaws?

>>51961780
Please don't jinx it.

>>51959934
You're good to go, but don't build dreadnoughts with underslung assault cannons because that's the thing that's getting revised.

>>51961594
It almost did. But instead he returned to Macragge to save Curze and thus the Emperor.
It was written by the Gav after all.

>>51961794

>don't build dreadnoughts with underslung assault cannons

There were people actually doing this? Its not like people are going out of their way to install graviton guns on contemptors.

>>51961794

>It almost did. But instead he returned to Macragge to save Curze and thus the Emperor.

I don't even.

>>51961794
>It almost did. But instead he returned to Macragge to save Curze and thus the Emperor.

Oh fuck you're right, I forget about that

>>51961788
>BACK DUE TO POPULAR DEMAND

:^)

>>51961794

So how must the Lion have felt when he got to Terra and the Emperor was already a vegetable?

>>51961855

He's already ruined one general. Pretty soon I'm going to have to paint lightning with no one to talk to because of an actual autist.

>>51961855
Who are you guys talking about? Curzefag?

>>51961954
this one aspie who spams threads with the zeds dead remix of eyes on fire, claiming its the NL theme song and that metal doesnt actually fit 40k

>>51961968

Don't forget that he has his own FAQ and will relentlessly harass anyone who disagrees with him to the point that I legit believe he is non-meme autistic.

>>51962009
>he has his own FAQ
has it gotten that far?

>>51962019

No, you don't get it.

HE POSTED AN FAQ TO HIS OWN POST ALONG WITH THE POST

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>>51955889
>anons with better art skills
>spurdo
>art skills

Is Outflank worth it? I'm kind a noob, and not sure about using it since 1. It's random when one specific unit you need gonna appear and where it gonna appear 2. The opponent can just put everything on center of his zone or put his OP units on wings 3. My guys can be just squashed one by one, not enough focused firepower

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>>51961410
>>51961385
castellan is probably better than most RoW options could ever be without duplicating the extra fortifications effects, since a few of the existing fortifications increase substantially in power when used in conjuction.

I really need to spend some time making a deployment example in photoshop, but there is a list type that after being run only once as a proof of concept got called the "seigfried line" list. Components: 1 Imperial strongpoint [1 bastion, 2 aegis, 6 tank traps, 6 barricades] 1 Void relay network [2 VSG, 1 pipes] and 1 or 2 armored container sets to taste. (up to 6 containers total)

plan: acquire minimum 3 squads with flamer weapons. in 30k these should be marksman vets with combi flamers. deploy the fortifications with the bastion between both sets of VSG, and with VSG overlapping to the point that one is wholly inside the 12" bubble of the other. Deploy barricades and tank traps to form a perimeter around the edge of your bubble zone, and any remainder lining your side board edges and littering your deployment zone to deny non-infantry deepstrike. Place artillery behind the bastion and containers which have formed a LOS-blocking wall covered by void shields. Pray you roll inuln generator on at least 1 container in the stack.

Result: your enemy has to approach your line from outside the void shields, taking artillery and quad mortar fire the whole way. even if they try a close deployment deepstrike they cannot get inside the shield due to the presence of your own units, and will then be hosed down by torrent weaponry. ouflank presents the same problem as only foot infantry vulnerable to return fire and interceptor will be able to arrive within reasonable distance.

I've played it. once. as a test. NEVER AGAIN.

>>51962137
gets short ranged units into the fight, and can be used to get rear armour against vehicles or set up impromptu pincer moves against isolated units
if you opponent overcommits his powerful units to fight your outflankers, then he's wasting them and your main force rolls up the board.
its very versatile and getting a unit of sniper vets into rapid fire range very quickly is nothing but excellent

>>51961820
>There were people actually doing this?
Not sure, just saying.
>Its not like people are going out of their way to install graviton guns on contemptors.
What do they use instead?

>>51961824
>>51961830
Gav's logic insert.
>>51961863
Angry at Russ because he was the one who delayed them on the course to Terra.

>>51953790
>>51954305
Looks like they got away with two Mechanicum ships, one the mentioned Mu-571 and another "great barque".
Haar's force took the Ordinati.
I'm happy with the outcome as it provides a great background for a Dark Angels list running the Brethren of Iron rite.

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>>51962199
>I've played it. once
Using it, or assaulting it?

>>51962395
once each. it was a horrific murder of the assaulting force in either case

>>51954831
waiting on some bits for my sekhmets and Age of Sigmar starter set

>>51961863
"Finally, someone with the same conversational skills as me."

>roll 2d6 for the winds of the warp and pick the highest
>this is supposed to be a benefit

It's kinda hilarious that "the benefit" is actually the only real downside of that RoW.

>>51962482
Did either of you bring an army designed to crack open fortresses?
There's a reason most forces mentioned as being good at sieges specialise in them. And why usually much larger forces are needed to take a fort (though I guess that'd be done by the points cost of the fort)

Does seem like the void shields are doing most of the work though, so I guess you'd need to take them out with long range firepower or airstrikes.

>>51962639
>winds of the warp
please stop this

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>>51962109
I made a pre-heresy one.

>>51962777
Put the sunglasses on one eye

>>51962675
yes, I brought a minmaxed IW force (had to proxy a few things) just to see what I could do even knowing the full weaknessess of the setup. the problem is cracking those shields and then having enough left over to shoot through that much 4+ invuln. the containers are probably the most broken thing in there. the right roll gets you 4+ on everything within 6" of it, and while it can be removed via shooting, it takes away the shooting needed to crack VSGs and void shields.

>>51962786
>not making it one big lens because he's a cyclops

>>51959633
Looks great, I'd leave the face plate how it is. Looks incredible.

>>51962788
>the containers are probably the most broken thing in there.
I would not have thought that.
Probably because I always forget they have shields, as you have to roll for it.

Points level?

>>51959633
Can we get a guide?

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>>51962809
fix'd

>>51962858
perfect

Infiltrate vs. Outflank vs. Deep Strike. Which one do you guys prefer and why?

>>51962900
Deep strike
Cooler

>>51955586
The feeliest book in entire HH range.

>>51959893
Looks okay but it could be completely different in good light with no thumb covering half the model.

>>51962912
Indeed

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>>51962918
"no".

>>51963109
That book was good but they could have spent less time messing about on that desert planet with the Eldar titans.

>>51963114
true enough, but like with most HH there's not much content between major events. Would have been good to see some actual crusade battles possibly setting the scene for mistrust of psykers. Tzeentch's presence could have been a bit more pronounced and insidious as well.

>>51958272
"Later years of M30"
>>51958438
As an official symbol, yes.
>>51959583
While it's on the cards, I think the strictly next books are Ruinstorm (the Imperium Secundus legions try to reach Terra) and Old Earth (the Salamanders and Iron Hands get their story arcs wrapped up).

>>51963109
Ahriman in that book was weird. He spends the first third/half of the book being generally useless, having to be saved by others, and overall Not Getting Shit Done. Then it's like McNeil remembered this character is meant to be kind of a big deal, and upped his power level for the rest of the book.

>>51960411
Well, I can tell you something from it you specifically want to know. Check the archive for greentext of the main sections.

>>51961566
>if the enemy just kills all your guys, what will you do hotshot?
>what will you do?!

>>51963168
I think Mcneil was fixated on making Ahriman come across as a sympathetic character, and also he's basically the most blinded one after Magnus because he's a corvidae and when his powers leave him he's a bit like an addict who refuses to use his instincts and logic and tries harder to predict using the warp. This is obviously the biggest threat to Tzeentchs plan, so tzeentch shuts off his powers. Meanwhile the likes of Phosis and Haathor don't rely on prescience so they get shit done.

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>>51963188
Well then you win.

>>51963168
It reads to me like the Aghoru section and the rest of the book were written in separate drafts.
In the first version he probably meant to do a slow develop of Ahriman, then junked that plan but kept his opening section.

Although considering he wrote Ahriman as a total b-b-baka foil to Forrix in that novella, I'm not entirely sure he fully understands how a character like that *would* develop.

>>51963213
I Seriously Hope You Guys Trudeau't Do This.

>>51962199
Imagine that with Solar Auxilia. Infantry squads with 10 Torrent flamers each lining the pipes, plus you can probably make your LoS wall out of 5HP Vindicators instead, or Ordo Reductor where it's all self-repairing thanks to the Enginseer squads with max flamers and everything is lined with Fearless troops, which are all compulsory troops thanks to the Macrotek you took to be able to do that in the usual Force Org, minus the crates.

Could you do that with a Skyshield instead of containers? Turn One while it's still well shielded you could launch a flyer from it too, then raise the barricades when the shields are breached.

Sounds like it would be fun to play with if you balanced out the points, though.

>>51962109
Christ you Drew literal chest dicks on him.

>>51955792
Way to ruin that 70 quid model holy shit.

>>51955792
I like that whoever did that model didn't even straighten out the sword or axehead. That's a nice touch.

>>51955982
> Don't want to invest unless I know the game is good
> buys Primarch to use in 1500 point games
Something is not adding up here.
Maybe start with the fucking rulebook

>>51963366
>>51963356
>>51963330
>11 hours old
Are you the dude asking for audiobooks all the time, spamming a fresh bait since you didnt get enough responses the first time?

>>51963366
See>>51955609

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Fuck you. Fuck china. Fuck resin.

Goddamnit I did it, and she can even stand on her own legs. I even tested the flanges, so once I get a stand she'll be a me to fly.

>>51963269
>dicks
I think you mean "benises

>>51961540
IC can't join Monstrous Creatures you dumb goose.

>>51963387
Come on, it's not that uncommon once one person's replied to an old post for others to look back up the thread and see the post they were replying to as well.

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>>51963396
>nom nom nom
>Ima eatchoo little paint pot
>tee hee
>nom nom nom! squee!

>>51963449

It's arguably more lewd because that pot is holding up in the air because I honestly wasn't sure if it wouldn't explode if I put it down on its own legs

>>51963467
>senpai, I'm not sure I can fit in...
>baka! I'm not your normal drop pod, I can take it

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>>51963449

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>>51963449
when you put it like that it kind of looks like this

Are there city fight rules in any of the HH books? I havent read all the mission scenarios, just the book will do. Or do I have to adapt the 40k rules?

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>>51962199
Well that does look beautiful, anon.
See, what about trying to position the Medusae so they have range on the flamer squads but not on the artillery (unless they're Earthshakers), maybe bring a Pavaise Deredeo for a bit of protection.
I presume you have anti-air, right?

Deepstriking Haywire squads in Arvus can't really be dealt with, even with non-skyfire Interceptor (Hoplites are cheap, Secutors are T5 2W, both of them have a 5++) and can bring down anything with an AV.
Because EMPs are deadly to ferrocrete bunkers, apparently.

And then people with Conversion beamers (Techmarines, Reductor Techpriests, Myrmidon Destructors, all Magi), Darkfire cannons (Castellax Troops) and the Thanatar Calix can outrange Thudd guns and Medusae.

So can Macrocarids and even then, Explorator upgrade + Machine Spirit would mean one of them could be placed as forward as you can in your deployment zone (12"), scout 12", cruise another 12" and suddenly it's hull mounted multimelta is in melta-range, rerollable if it has Decima inside of it, unkillable if it has his Techpriest retinue, using no slots if it is his DT.
Realistically you don't need it to move that forward, but it is a thing.

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>>51963825
HH4 has all you're looking for and much more.

>>51963867
Brilliant, thanks for your help.

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>>51963888
Glad Khornetrips likes.

>>51964241
He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

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>>51963396
I saw this in the wip thread and commented on it. If you bought it off ebay without knowing its a recast, I'm so sorry dude. It sucks ass, the model is great. Mine even fell off the gaming table, onto the concrete floor due to cat shenanigans and it didn't break, at all.

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A little bit of news, plastic Mk III and tartar source is going up for preorder soon, for anyone that doesn't want BoP or to scour ebay.

(Pics are from atia's War Of Sigmar site, not mine, so no, I can't provide a full WD scan.)

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>>51964400
2/2.

>>51964412
Can't imagine anybody would not have seen this coming a mile away.

>>51964400
While I love the plastic Mk3 armour, I dislike the helmets. The FW default grille helmet is much, much better.

>>51964400
If the prices are anything like the BaC prices it will be better to just check ebay, there are a shit load of things on there so you hardly have to 'scour' unless you live in some 3rd world hovel or Australia.

Price of a BaC squad in store is £30 while on ebay there are ones for £19 with free shipping.

>>51964440
>If the prices are anything like the BaC prices
>Impying GW would even consider asking a lower amount than previous similiar releases

kek

>>51964440
The prices are right there in the picture.

>>51964272

I knew it was a recast. The price and shipping from china was a bit hint, so I wasn't expecting much. This was also my first time working with resin, so I'm sure I'll get better over time.

I do love the model, though. It's so nice that I almost want to spend the $100 on a proper one just to see how it is. I'm sure having a plastic drop pod core makes the process much easier.