Warhammer 40,000 General

First for the Omnissiah.

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Second for the Plague father

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>>51950795
>still no Duncan
post one of his older tips or something for thinning's sake.

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i wish there was more of this. orks record history and big events right?

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5th for best Regiment

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I find myself slowly starting to kinda like Girlyman's new design. Help!

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WE'LL BE RELEVANT AGAIN ONE DAY

>>51950882
>Not Mordia
>Not Preatorian

Stay pleb

>>51950949
>he doesn't know about R&H

>>51951006
>Praetorians
>good ever
>Doesn't mention Elysia
How can one person have this much shit taste?

>>51950886
>guys
>hey
>hey guys
>what if we gave Guilliman a new model
>a new model for Guilliman
>but
>we gave him Chaos armor trim
>and also a rat face

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back when terminators looked stoic and badass

none of this ballerina shit current termie models do

>Both Cawl and Girlyman come from an age where research and technology isn'the Heresy.
>Imperium about to get a new age of technology and GW gonna sell a lot of new models.

>>51950886
his design's sweet

>it's giant mk8
>but with muscular thighs
>got a kickass helmet
>cozy fuckin' eagle on his back
>power fist with a heavy bolter on it
no complaints

>>51951105
>implying old Termies were good with their literally monopose, puny assault canon and derpy special weapons
>implying the current Termies are the same as current GW or DoW writing, considering how fucking old they are
As someone who actually owned (and still owns) metal Terminators, fuck outta here newfag.

>>51951067
We can agree Vostroyan are shit

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I saw Starship Troopers a couple of days ago, and I was wondering what would realistically happen if a Federation Fleet somehow accidentally teleported into WH40K's universe - like say the fleet they sent to Klendathu.

If it was to show up right as a battle was taking place for a planet between Tyranids and The Imperium of Man - what would go down - assuming the battle was at a standstill? Would they help, could they?

>>51951036
Anon probably wants official GeeDubs and not stinky Foewole.

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>>51951148
That we can.

>>51951153
they'd either integrate swimmingly, or go to total war with one another

It could easily go either way depending on who writes first contact and the circumstances/parties involved. Movie mobile infantry are basically just a guard regiment, though.

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back when only 4 chapters existed and the lore wasnt drenched in shitty lesser chapters

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>>51950836
What can I do to make this better?
One heldrake and a full squad of MoN spawn?

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>>51951147
ur a stupid cunt and u should fuck off out of this forum

Do we have rules for the new Triumvirate yet? I need to figure out if I'm buying Voldus and fielding him as Laraon for my GK or not.

>>51950886
>motherfucking Roboute Guilliman
>motherfucking Cypher
>some random scrub-tier Grey Knight
Why? Why not Mordrak or Thawn?

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Does any one know where I can get the Beast arises book 9 watchers in death audio book.
I got all the audio books so far but I can't find one that's not broken.
Youtubes ones (all of them) are missing 1:50-2:20 ish so its broken.
I want to get all of them because then I can make them all mp3 and lison to them
If any one wants them I can upload them all to the mega.

>>51951241
Hey richard

That wiki is amazing. How has it not been taken down yet?

>>51951196
Oh, I get it, now! This is bait!

>>51951153
>>51951189
Yeah if we're just talking about the movies and ignoring the books, my vote is for integrate swimmingly. Their dumb, WW1 wave tactics using, propaganda indoctrinated asses would literally fit right in with the Imperial Guard.

Tyranids are nine kinds of more dangerous and intelligent than the bugs from Starship Troopers though.

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back when you needed paint skills to field a legion of the damned army

legion models from gw come with stencils on the models so you can paint safely

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Is this decent for a 1000pt escalation league?

>>51951239
>some random scrub-tier Grey Knight
He's as important as Mordrak is, and a hell of a lot more important than Thawn ever was. Just because he didn't have rules in 5th doesn't mean he isn't important.

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>>51951284
no bait. back in the early 90s only 4 official chapters existed. the rest were crated by fans

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>>51951335
Sure, but I don't think you can find shittier chapters than Space Wolves and Blood Angels, even today.

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why doesnt gw sell sticker banners anymore?

>>51951076
>>and also a rat face
Face is fine. The models head isn't great, but in that pic you can clearly see the influence of roman faces on it.

As for the armor, a huge part of it is the fact that it's blue and gold like the 1k sons. Even then, it's not like roman armor doesn't have basis for such designs and trimming

>>51951373
Because now you need painting skills in order to bring good looking banner.

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>>51951335
Kek, good that you got some (You)s but now you've been outed your damage control is painfully obvious, apply yourself lad

>>51951324
But he's not an established character, while GK players have been asking for a Mordrak model and rules ever since the new codex cut him.

How do I take on riptides as Dark Eldar? Preferably without covens.

I normally play maelstrom so I just steal objectives from things I can't kill. But I feel that will be more difficult against a jetpack monster.

>>51951413
The only established characters we've gotten so far are Celestine, Gulliman and Cypher. Mordrak would've wound up with people bitching about him not being like his 5e incarnation, and the Warden of the Librarius is a hell of a lot more relevant against Chaos than the Master of the Fleets.

>>51951414
Shoot it with blasters, tie it up with a kinda big Reaver squad or attempt to get a Talos/CTC up close never actually happens vs good Tau players
If you aren't averse to allies, anything that knows Psychic Screech is a godsend. I love comboing the Armor of Misery with a Mask of Secrets Shadowseer rolling in hope of Mirror of Minds and taking Screech as insurance if she doesn't get it.

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>>51951405
:)

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A lot of comments on the old terminators. I'm surprised nobody's posting old dreadnoughts.

>>51951335
That's wrong though.
Hell, that's been wrong since Rouge fucking Trader. The fucking crimson fists where on the fucking cover of RT for christ sake

>>51951481
He's a faggot shitposting about the retro-but-not-quite days of 2nd and almost certainly a newfriend who didn't even play when said days were in full swing. He's already made clear he doesn't know or care about RT, so why would he care about vintage RT models?

So when is Guilleman released? Getting tired of being stomped by chaos and their fucking overpowered characters.

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>>51951006
>>51951148

Keep on hatin' boys.

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>>51951503
I just wanted an excuse to post them, alright?

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>>51951504

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>>51951405
>>51951474
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>>51951490
>Rogue Trader
>40k

there were only 4 official chapters in the early days of 40k

>>51951504
11th of March

>>51951481
boxnoughts are too sexy, with their full boxiness and sharp, square lines

no one remembers other, inferior dreadnoughts

>>51951460
>established characters
Still kinda pissed that the very obvious Lady Malys model is instead used as some boring super-special eldar OC.
And, honestly, Cawl should have been Land. That would have been amazing.

>>51951532
>there were only 4 official chapters in the early days of 40k

There has always been more than 4.
Multiple Chapters appeared in the original rulebook.

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>>51951532
Please define for us "The early days of 40k", as you seem to be using the term differently than others.

>>51951530
There's not a single thing a SM player can do to stop a Daemon prince with a 2+ jink save. We simply can't throw enough dice at it.

>>51951405
>>51951474
>>51951532
>>51951556
then why was there only 4 codexes for the 4 chapters and none of the others?

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>>51951573
The Hunter's Eye.

>>51951550
Arkhan Land died on Mars long time ago.

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>>51951556
forgot image

>>51951575
Most Chapters still do not have a codex.
A chapter doesn't need a codex of its own.

>>51951474
>XIII
>There were only 4 chapters!!

>>51951575
>implying chapters without codices don't officially exist

>>51951585
And if i don't play white scars?

>>51951575
>Ultramarines no longer exist because there is no Codex Ultramarines anymore.

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>>51951532
>there were only 4 official chapters in the early days of 40k
Fuck you for spreading this bullshit.

Pic is from is page 11 of codex ultramarines (2nd edition)
Now shut the fuck up

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>>51951608
Then that's your choice. Don't treat Chaos Space marines like a single entity if you aren't willing to do so to loyalist Space Marines. Chaos has adapted to the current state of the game. Nothing stops you from doing the same.

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>>51951549
Ain't that the god damn truth.

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Hahahahaa PAYDAY
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>>51951148
We can agree on that, but the best is obviously the first and the only.

>>51951153
It's questionable whether any of them would understand that the ST were in the wrong universe - they might have non-standard guns and equipment, but that's not impossible even within the Imperium. Even the lack of skulls and eagles could be down to being a relatively new integration into the Imperium.

The Commissariat would soon assign them some leadership and honestly I don't see that ending badly for anybody. They're all there to smush bugs.

Claiming to be Terran could be a problem, tho. On the other hand, it might put to rest any question of why they don't have lasguns.

Wouldn't matter anyway because they'd be dead in hours.

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>>51951628
Those are made up by fans. Not GW themselves.

Look, the howling Griffons were was made by a GW store employee

>>51951650
Someone needs to replace the LoC with the new one on this.

>>51951413
>If Triumvirate of the Primarch included Mordrak
>Grand Master Mordrak and his two Phantom Paladins
>Wounds on GM Mordrak are resolved on his nearest Paladin
>Start of every owner's turn Mordrak brings back a Paladin
>Mordrak can never leave his Paladins, but can they can join units like IC.

>>51951665
> First and Only
There's a little more of you than that now. Thank Trazyn.

>>51951591
That was never proven. His expedition was presumed lost because they only found his logs, which mentioned his team being slowly wittled down.
That leaves a lot of room for writing him back in.

>>51951668
it's in the fucking codex you goddman mong.
Go, open up second editon's codex ultramarines to page 11, read the list of the second founding chapters and shut the hell up
Of course you can't do that, because you are so obviously a newfag who doesn't have a copy of any 2nd edtion stuff.

>>51951669
Everything in that pic is ancient except maybe Sammael

>>51951682
Man, Celestine's rule would work bafflingly well for Mordrak.

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>>51951153
Mobile Infantry from the books are basically Assault Marines with an array of small arms and shoulder fired nukes

Book Mobile Infantry are just conscripts with autoguns and limited air support

Both would aid the imperium, the former would turn the tide of battle cause they're on the bounce and the latter would be eaten

>>51951712
Stop feeding him (You)s, if we just ignore him he'll get bored and leave

>>51951650
What in this picture isn't old? Some of the "new" models have fucking goblin green bases.

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>>51951751

>>51951759
It's an old image newfriend.

>>51951759
I think Samael is around nine years or so, the rest is third edition (maybe fourth for the dread?).

>>51951645
>mighty Brain with his mighty army
fucking triggered

How do i deal with Daemon Princes and Bloodthirsters as an Iron Hands player?

>>51951201
Murder sword is a bit overrated, there's easy ways to prevent it from triggering, like using a tarpit character to charge and then challenge your lord.

>>51951728

I think you mean movie mobile infantry are conscripts. Forgive me for pointing out the typo.

The book ones might object to the Imperiums form of government pretty hard though.

>>51951573
Sicaran tanks ignore jink saves with their 6 shot twin-linked rending autocannon.

do you think gw will make plastic sisters of battle if we get the feminists and sjw's to complain about lack of diversity in 40k?

it worked for video games

Why are Deathwatch covered in =][= symbols if they're not working with the inquisition?

And more importantly if the inquisition isn't in charge, who is? Who has the authority to demand that space marine chapters send their marines away to join DW and who authorized the use of alien weapons?

>>51951811
Chapter Master with Gorgon's Chain on a bike. Add in either relic blade or powerfist to taste.

>>51951811
>Iron Hands

The only way to make this more kek would be if you said Iron Warriors

Roll over and die. Or play your army in a way that makes it thematically not very Iron Hands like

>>51951811
Both usually have a 3+ save
>(DPoN and Impossible Robed DPoT being the exception)
and you DO have a gun that vomits attacks and wounds based on Armour Save.

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>>51951668
Painted by.

Howling Griffons as a Chapter originated in WD101 (May 1988) as participants in the Badab War, to try and sell the new RBT01 plastic marines box set. They're one of the few minor Chapters depicted in this image to retain their original colour scheme - which, to be fair, is because they had fans who went out and made nice display armies for them.

The image you posted is from 2E - after WD 174 (1994), which introduced the Razorback for the first time, which is why they're those old-style ones with the open, crewed turrets, sitting next to the then still current Land Raider kit, which wasn't updated until christ 1998 or something.

tl;dr nope

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>>51951481

I miss the old Lucius pattern Epic scale Titans myself.

They have that distinct look that is lacking in baroque or ornate design.

>>51951862
Then he gets his 3+armor save because rends never happen. Anything that doesn't require forge world?

>>51950846
Not OP, but I am the original OP Duncaneer.

I've been following it's progress for a while, and while an accurate Duncan is nice, it leads to a lot of shitposting.

I'm OK with ditching it from the pasta.

Also, it looks like some enjoyed my bread.

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>>51951871
They are working for the Ordo Xenos. They ARE the Ordo Xenos, arguably moreso than the Inquisitors int he Ordo. The Deathwatch itself demands it, and the Deathwatch itself has the might to get it.

>>51951867
>it worked for video games
How? There were always women in video games, feminists just refused to acknowledge it.

What the fuck is a Primeork and why do I already hate it?

>>51951834
Yeah I fucked up, the second one was supposed to be movie MI

>>51951867
The problem is that after gw appeases the sjws and feminists, they would continue to complain and find fault in everything.

>>51951867

No.

>>51951811

Do the Iron Hands not have Grav or something?

I'm pretty sure I remember it coming on their Centurions, Bikes and Devastators.

>>51951867
>do you think gw will listen to people complaining about dumb shit
no
thankfully

GW ignores the masses and instead focuses on what actually moves product. Expect more space marines and primarchs, because the horus heresy pays the fucking bills.

>>51951915
They're not ordo xenos though. The new fluff makes it very clear.

>>51951926
Orks were allowed to go unchecked after the Emperor was killed, and a thousand years later you got some fucking huge orks.

The Beast was the leader of all of them, arguably the Most Orky of orks, and his lieutenants were the Prime Orks.

Each of the Prime Orks embodied the concept of the clan that spawned him. So you'd have the Prime Ork of the Blood Axes, who embodied leadership and treachery and mercenary ideals, or the Prime Ork of the Speed Freaks, who was all about doing things the fastest way so they could move to the next fight, no matter their losses.

>>51951973
i don't get why they bothered to separate the ordos like that.

>>51951481
You want a comment? The fucking arms fell off like every week and there was no good way to pin them, they were just rims in contact.

See also: leaving your land speeder in the sun for a long turn and watching the engine blocks expand and push free of their gluey bonds, joyfully sending the thing over on its side unless you'd given it a really fuckin solid nonstandard base.

Land Raider? Spent £20 of 1990s money? You better be prepared to watch those fragile posts holding the lascannons on snap erry tiem.

Rhino? Say goodbye to your grabrails, those babies is gone.

Trigger warning: Virus grenades.

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>>51951968
>and instead focuses on what actually moves product
Which is why we got a bunch of fucking nobodies for the Eldar Triumvirate, and why they updated Stormcast Eternals again rather than give more fluff to aelves or duardin or death?

GW doesn't focus on anything except what they feel like doing. Any relation to coherent business practice is purely accidental.

>>51951783
I know, but it's still triggering me because the systems we know and possibly love from GW are only 34 or less years old. Some of the new models in that picture date to around the midpoint or even earlier of their game's lifespan, which would be widely considered old.

>>51951867
Why would that lead to plastic sisters? The response from GW would be to just point at them and go "but sisters" and nothing more

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>>51952005
Thank you for this. I actually posted it because I didn't play back then, and wanted to hear stories.

>>51951896
Sorry, I'm used to the chaos one which can give all its heavy bolters rending, so you can dish out 9 HB shots in addition to the autocannon. Try high volume high strength fire. Can SM get any ignores cover that isn't blasts?

>>51952059
>Can SM get any ignores cover that isn't blasts?
The Hunter's Eye.

Also psychic powers, but good luck getting those off against Chaos.

>>51951926

What happens when Orks start to reach the pinnacle of their power.

They make the Orks that were capable of slapping the Emperor and Horus around look like Grots with both their size and their power.

Thankfully for the Galaxy, most Orks don't usually accumulate that much power.

That being said, Octarius shows a disturbing trend as there are Orks there that were so powerful and intelligent they easily made a mockery of the Space Marines and Eldar who opposed them.

>>51952006
Why are you here if you don't like the game?

>>51951980
In related news, the Beast series of novels is fucking stupid.

>>51952097
Because I do enjoy the game. It's an excellent Cool Story Generator that you can involve friends with and that doesn't require one person to spend the entire week planning out an adventure like RPGs.

>>51952124
WELL NEVER MIND THEN *screams Eternally*

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>>51952096
>That being said, Octarius shows a disturbing trend as there are Orks there that were so powerful and intelligent they easily made a mockery of the Space Marines and Eldar who opposed them.
I still want to run a Deathwatch one-shot of going down to Octarius to destabilize shit. Players build the most OP characters they can, and get thrown into a situation where they need it.

>>51952096
> there are Orks there that were so powerful and intelligent they easily made a mockery of the Space Marines and Eldar who opposed them.
Incoming Grimgore Ironhide who just waltzes around and mollywhops anything and everything now and forever.

>>51952111
Was that the series eith the ork diplomat?

>>51952006
>Avatar of Ynnead
>Nobody

I mean I agree with you on the other two but Ynnead was kind of a big deal for them.

>>51952096
Eh? I don't remember Orks from Octarius ever beating any Space Marines, when did this happen?

All I remember is that one time they kinda went out of Octarius and got their shit kicked in by Raven Guard/Salamanders/White Scars, or that time the Death Watch swooped in and killed them all for the Mek Crown thing.

>>51952167
I found the Ynnead to be a big disappointment. I mean its a god that's been hyped for ages as being the salvation of the species and a counter to a Chaos God but when it comes out it...seems to not to much or have much power. When a God seems less important than a some mortal Primarch its really underwhelming

>>51951834
>Might
Yeah, the Terran Federation and the Imperium of Man are radically different governments. TF is propogandist and run by the military, but is still a democracy, civilians having lessrepresentation.

Imperium of man is a fucking meat grinder. The difference between the castes are so great that the imperium works you to death, or shoves your crippled body in a missile or feeds you to a chair.

People who said integrate swimmingly are fucking idiots. At the first sign of heresy, the Imps would blow them out of the sky and give no shits.

>>51952205
it's underpowered but being an eldar fan i thought it was a huge event

>>51952205
>When a God seems less important than a some mortal Primarch its really underwhelming

It's less of a god and more of the aborted fetus of what would've been a god. Hella strong and only getting stronger as it feeds on more Eldar souls and gathers more of its power.

>>51952179

I didn't say they defeated them.

I just said they made a mockery of their efforts to stop them, mockery meaning the bulk of their efforts were largely ineffective.

Also, the Salamanders were repulsed from their boarding action on a massive Ork warship where the Warboss in question stood taller than a Deff Dread.

Also, since that story was a cliff hanger, we don't know if the Orks succeeded or if they were driven back.

>>51952232
Let us not forget that the federation happily employs unregulated psykers, even if they are low level.

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>>51951650
>Comparing epic miniatures to 40k miniatures
The "new" keeper of secrets shown there is the third edition keeper of secrets.

The "new" lord of change you posted is a 3rd edition model, the fourth most recent 40k lord of change, the "old" one is again, an epic model, not a 40k model and newer than the actual oldest lord of change model

You're fucking bad at this, here is an actual old keeper of secrets for you.

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Alright i have never played a game of 40k or made a army list but i'm trying to get into the game, how dreadful is this list and how do i unfuck it for a 1000 point army?

>>51952151
>literally a 1911

>>51952324
By reading the IG codex, that list is illegal.

>>51952324
Im not an IG player but aren't heavy weapons teams supposed to be taken in platoons?

>>51952292
They are clearly regulated.

>>51952277
But the Orks lost. I mean the Space Marines then made a far LARGER mockery of the Orks then the Orks did of them since the Space Marines actually won, whereas the Orks lost, even with huge advantages, and ran away with their tails between their legs.

The book ends with the Orks having retreated completely from the planet and the Space Marines about to force the last Eldar to show them where the Avatar is. Its a pretty clear victory.

>>51952386
Well I only saw the movie byt it seemed like that witch filth was allowed to do whatever he wanted.

How's my Alpha Legion list? Is the contemptor worth taking?

1850 points
HQ [2]

Sorcerer (180pts) Force Weapon, Bolt Pistol Mastery Level 3, Spell Familiar, Sigil of Corruption, The Mindveil, VotLW

Sorcerer (180pts) Bolt Pistol, Mastery Level 3, Bike, Spell Familiar, Sigil of Corruption, The Black Mace, VotLW

Troops [6]

5x Chaos Chosen (150pts)
>1x Champion; Power Weapon, Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs
>4x Chosen; Meltaguns, Bolt Pistols, CCW

5x Chaos Chosen (130pts)
>1x Champion; Power Weapon, Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs
>4x Chosen; Flamers

5x Chaos Chosen (150pts)
>1x Champion; Bolter, Bolt Pistol, CCW
>4x Chosen; Plasmagun, Bolt Pistol, CCW

10x Cultists (50pts)
>1x Champion; Autopistol, CCW
>9x Cultists; Autopistols, CCW

10x Cultists (50pts)
>1x Champion; Autopistol, CCW
>9x Cultists; Autopistols, CCW

10x Cultists (50pts)
>1x Champion; Autopistol, CCW
>9x Cultists; Autopistols, CCW

Elites [1]

Chaos Contemptor Dreadnought (250pts) Chainfist/ Meltagun, Powerfist w/ Heavy Flamer, Dedication of Khorne

Fast Attack [2]

Hell Blade (115pts) Two Helstorm Autocannons

6x Chaos Bikers (180pts)
>1x Biker Champion; Combi-Bolter, Bolt Pistol Power Weapon, Melta Bomb
>2x Bikers; Plasmagun, Bolt Pistol, CCW
>3x Bikers; Combi-bolter, Bolt Pistol, CCW

Heavy Support [2]

Chaos Relic Sicaran (200pts) Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Warpflame Gargoyles, Malefic Ammunition

Deimos Pattern Vindicator (130pts)

>>51952269
Pretty sure Ynnead is described as an outright God now. Also just don't see how something weaker than a Primarch is expected to even tickle Slaanesh's fancy, let alone fight it.

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>>51951532
No. the traitor legions have always existed.

>>51950795

That OP image is far too elaborate.

>>51951650
>>51952306
That Gazkhull is just a conversion of a standard metal body/plastic arms Goff Nob, not the original (dedicated) model, though it and the campaign they fought with it was the genesis of the story.

The RT dreadnought has been converted very badly with arms that are if anything even uglier than the ones it should have (again, probably because the metal arms were so heavy they just fell off).

It's a shame that you're comparing it to the newer Venerable Dread, when you could be comparing the original 2E metal boxnought/2E Bjorn to the current plastic versions.

The plastic marine on the old Mk14 Bullock isn't meant to be there, he's a stand-in, probably because the owner got a load of IG jetbikes with crew for cheap.

Yeah I know it's an old image and you're shitposting with it.

>>51952464

Last I read in the book , the Ork fleet was still on it's way to the planet and there was still a heavy Ork prescence on the world.

The Space Marines also failed to kill the Overfiend.

>>51952495
>Pretty sure Ynnead is described as an outright God now.

He is a god, just not especially powerful since he was woken too soon.

>Also just don't see how something weaker than a Primarch

How is he weaker than a Primarch?

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Rate my list please.

>>51951824
Go for the mace then?

>>51952464
The battle for Macragge was an imperial victory, but only after the nids devoured a swath of imperial and non-imperial worlds, and only through the help of suiciding one of the largest ships in their fleet, and they STILL lost more planets to the same hive fleet afterwards
hive fleet behemoth made an absolute mockery of EVERYONE, but the imperium still won so they didn't

What happens if two Ynneads fight each other?

Im going to fight eldar on a 500pts game

what kind of leman russ varian should i bring?

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The man who saved the Imperium.

>>51952649
If you want to be a fucking faggot the Eradicator will ruin the day of a fluffy low-points Eldar player but don't actually do that because in bigger games he'll start using Wraithknights and you will deserve it.

Why is Tyranid Skytide not good?

>>51952681
Gargoyles can't return via Deep strike aka they gotta walk back
Harpies are trash
Crones are average vs Air, mediocre otherwise

Can take 3ish Tyrants per Skytide

>>51951241
Vk page

>>51952630
i don't think there's more then 1 right now

>>51952675
Are full scatterbikes lists fluffy?

>>51952575
Cause he ran like a bitch. All his forces were destroyed and then he fled like a pussy.

>>51952721
They go into ongoing reserve, why do they not get to deep strike?

>>51952620
The Imperium won both the first two Tyrannic Wars, what's your point, that's common knowledge.

>>51952744
Full bike lists are if your opponent is actually playing Saim-Hann.
If you know he's bringing nothing but scatbikes then take the stock battle tank to force them to jink, and park Wyverns behind it.

>>51952760
Something about Ongoing Reseve and Deepstrike Reserve being different.

Check the Tyranid FAQ to see if it was answered there

>>51952595
Because said Primarch is literally gonna single-handidly now turn back this entire Chaos upswing?

Not to mention even the weakest Primarch could clobber the Yncarne to death and Ynnead can only make ONE of those

>>51952763
No, they didn't. It's like saying Russia won WW1&2.

>>51952721
From how I read it, they can Deepstrike, but only if the models initially entered the board with the Deepstrike special rule.

I could be wrong, though.

>>51952601

Psykana division needs 2 more commissars.
The Primaris psyker in the CAD will matter bery little compared to the psykers getting the formation bonuses.
Split the Vanquisher off from the Tank commander and give it as hull Lascannon.
The tank commander's squadron-mate should have plasma cannon sponsons.
If you want to get Invisibility for the infantry mob, upgrade to ML2. Otherwise drop him.
Switch the AS Ministorum priest for a IA Ministorum priest with Litanies of Faith, so you get your guaranteed reroll saves/wounds.
Chimera should have hull Heavy Flamers.
Pasks tank would be better with Multi-melta sponsons and a hull lascannon to kill monstrous creatures and vehicles more efficiently.
Aegis is good.
Wyverns are good.
Mech vets are good.
Infantry platoon is good even if the formation bonuses are awful.

>>51952796
Yncarne can heal and bring back the dead. Which Primarch can do that?

Hell, did the Emperor ever bring people back from the dead?

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How is this for casual / semi-competitive play?

>>51952771
>wyverns at a 500pts game

my god... should i be that much of an asshole?

>>51952796
>Because said Primarch is literally gonna single-handidly now turn back this entire Chaos upswing?

That's not true though.
They specifically bring him back to get the Imperium's shit together, not so he can beat up Khorne at the Khorne games

Godamnit, /tg/. You suck.

>>51952595

>not specially powerful since he was woken too soon

Ynnead hasn't fully awakened yet. Only one shard of him awakened. The Ynnari need 5 crone swords to act like an alarm clock to awaken Slaanesh.

>>51952575

The Overfiend was defeated and crippled by the last book. He was forced to retreat back to his empire. The marine objective wasn't killing the Overfiend but stopping the Orkish invasions of the system.

>>51952802
Russia...was on the winning side in WW1 and WW2.

Dude the first and second Tyrannic Wars are literally, explicitly called Imperium victories in canon. Suffering losses doesn't negate it being a victory, otherwise there would never be a victory for anyone ever since everyone suffers losses.

>>51952882
Pyrrhic victories are not really victories.

>>51952836
The Emperor summons whole spirit armies in the Webway, if I remember correctly, and his power allows Celestine to ressurect herself multiple times.

Also none of this changes that a Primarch, any Primarch, will easily clobber the Yncarne to the ground, I mean Ahriman easily beat the Yncarne, Yvrainne and the Visarch (like he matters) by himself. If Ynnead can't even make something to fight Ahriman than he clearly isn't Primarch tier

>>51952858
> Should I be that much of an asshole?
Should he?

>>51952036
Inquisitorial audit for rogue trader Kressalius me thinks

What do I need when building a list? I wanted to run a really Sicarian heavy skitarii list but I had no anti air, what should be on my checklist, for example anti armour, anti air etc.

Also what's the best use of an ad mech ally as skitarii.

>>51952861
> saying other people suck
> Thinking the Ynnari need to awaken Slaanesh

>>51952929
If you can win pyrrhic victories for 8000+ years without your Empire crumbling (in fact the Imperium expanded) then they aren't Pyrrhic.

A Pyrrhic victory means that you have to endanger your position by said victory. Since we know the Imperium, as per the Rulebook, is larger than its ever been, it clearly hasn't been suffering many pyrrhic victories.

Pyrrhic victories are not simply 'we lost a lot of men' for example WW2 is not considered a Pyrrhic victory by most scholars on the subject. So too the 1st and 2nd Tyrannic War are not Pyrrhic Victories for the Imperium as a whole, simply victories.

>>51950795
I'm really shit at painting and I have a harlequin kill team list to paint. I'm considering using wash or ink but I really don't know which and how. I'm going for the standard color scheme without the losange shapes because it's way to hard to do.

>>51952958
dunecrawler for anti air. i wouldn't worry about flyers these days, but most will bring out a flyer at 1k unless you run into someone that likes a few flyers

>>51952930
>his power allows Celestine to ressurect herself multiple times.

Not without cost. Celestine resurrections has left her soul greatly damaged. Each time she is reborn she is less becayse a part of her is lost. She is down to her last resurrection or two. After that she will fall down and never rise up again.

Cmpare that to what the Chaos Gods can do. They can ress their minions endlessly if they wished. Heck, they do so with no charge out of amusement sometimes.

>>51950795
Is the leman russ and chimera in the catachan defence force different to the standard versions available? Looking at the main ensemble image of the gw site it seems to be

>>51952958
Ability to engage light armour (Rhinos and Razorbacks - Gladius!)
Ability to engage hordes (Wolfstars)
Ability to engage air (Chaos Daemon Princes/Helldrakes)
Ability to engage high-toughness MCs (Tau)

Skitarii are at their best if you only use Vanguards, Infiltrators, and Onagers. Onagers will be able to handle MCs and air. Vanguard can handle hordes and light armour. Infiltrators can deal with light armour and hordes as well, and don't suck in melee.

Sicarian Infiltrators are the only thing I've ever seen kill their way out of combat with a Space Wolf dogstar. They killed so many wolves that after both sides had piled in we still had nobody in base contact with each other.

>>51953013
[citation needed]

>>51953013
>They can ress their minions endlessly if they wished. Heck, they do so with no charge out of amusement sometimes.

And yet Celestine has free will.

The followers of Chaos are slaves.

>>51950867
Underrated

Thanks for sharing anon

>>51952976
>years without your Empire crumbling (in fact the Imperium expanded)

Expanded where? The worlds eaten by the Tyranids are inhabitable husks and the self inflicted genocide by Kryptman was considered to be one of the most grievous losses of worlds the Imperium ever suffered.

>>51953043
Fall of Cadia. Her speech at the start.

>>51953052
Abaddon is stated to have freewill in the Black Legion supplement. Checkmate.

>>51953065
>he doesn't know about the macharian crusades
>or the redemtion crusades
>or the forging

>>51953039
Ah ok then I'll focus on that then. Do you know anything about using as mech as allies? I really like the look of the electro priests and the kataphron servitors but I have no idea what they do honestly.

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>>51952595
He's a god like Cegorach is a god.

They're ultimate weaksauce, just like the other surviving Eldar god, Isha.

Literally prize-tier. Pick-you-up-and-fight-over-you-tier.

Eldarfags who believe Ynnead will have any import on the lore as a -diety- while being something you can play on the tabletop are wallowing in their own delusion.

>>51952976
WW1 was literally a phyrric victory for Russia. It led to the Bolshevik Revolution and the establishment of the communist state.

>>51953134
Macharian conquests crumbled and were lost after his death.

>redemtion crusades

Left the Imperium in a weakened state that led to the Waning and the Age of Ending that's leading to the collapse of the Imperium.

>>51953013
about the saint's resurrections, are the Gemini effected? i assume they're saints as well right?

>>51952882
Russia lost ww1 the revolution happened and they sued for peace with the Germans
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwone/war_end_01.shtml

>>51953168
Slaanesh considers Ynnead the greatest threat to his/her existence.

>>51953168
>Yncarne
>Same as Ynnead

No. That's stupid. That's like saying a Greater Demon existing means the Chaos Gods are shit.

>>51953052
Shots fired.

>>51953168
>Eldarfags who believe Ynnead will have any import on the lore as a -diety- while being something you can play on the tabletop

But you can't play Ynnead on the table top.

>>51953149
Oh, cult mech, not skitarii? That's easy. They're your source of grav, which is a Tau-killer.

The HQ is a good thing because you need a tank for so many skitarii units - they're squishy, and they can still scout if joined by an MC, so you put him in the front.

The Breachers are solidly meh. They do what they're there to do, but you have better options.

The Destroyers are where the good shit is. Grav cannons tear apart Tau and Gladius, and I'm of the opinion that Grav is a huge sign of how busted 40k is - nothing in the game should get better against you because you improved your dudes.

The Electro-Priests exist to up your unit count for canticles purposes. I've yet to find a better use for them, but then I really haven't tried.

The big 'bots are overcosted. They look like they get a fuckload of work done, but then you start losing games because you lack board presence outside of them. But you see them doing so much work and go "Okay, I need to get more of those", and it's a bad cycle.

>>51953179
No idea. But the new WD says that the deaths of her recent Gemini have wounded her spirit but the joy of seeing the Primarch rise from death lessened the pain.

>>51953179
They were resurrected during the siege of cadia. They haven't died enough times for any long term side effects to show.

>>51953085

We're talking about followers of Chaos who can be ressed. If Abba-dabba-do goes down, he's not coming back. Once you accept the "gift" of immortality at the hands of Chaos, you are enslaved to the will of your patron god.

>>51953187
citation needed

you sure that isn't "The Eldar consider Slaanesh considers Ynnead the greatest threat to his/her existence"

>tfw Grey Knight Grand Master should be one of the best melee generic HQs in the game
>tfw he's overcosted garbage

>>51953274
Fracture of Ball-Tan. Ctrl-F threat.

>>51953253
>We're talking about followers of Chaos who can be ressed.

Any of them?

>>51953198
Yes you can :D
Eldrad may have fucked it up, but weaksauce incomplete Ynnead is the only Ynnead you get

It's not an Avatar of Khaine or a Greater Daemon of

That's literally your lot

>>51953274
It was said by the Masque of Slaanesh iirc. Who would probably know.

>>51953280
You got Draigo for ass kicking, Im gonna bet the new one is going to be a buff machine instead of a melee power house.

>>51953172
>Macharian conquests crumbled and were lost after his death.
Inncorect. The macharian heresy lasted 70 ears after his death, but the vast majority of the worlds were eventually pacified, due to a crusade of 100 chapters led by Solon.
>Left the Imperium in a weakened state that led to the Waning and the Age of Ending that's leading to the collapse of the Imperium
Also wrong. The macharian crusades happened during the waning, nearly 200 years after the redemption crusade. While the period dis have increased activity by chaos and xenos, the imperium was by no means extremely weakened by it, since they were able to launch the most successful crusade since the GC after the RCs.

The time of ending is a result of the tyranid invasion, the rise of many new upstart empires, and the reawakening of the necrons. It began nearly 1,000 years after the RCs, and was most certainly not a result of lack of manpower because of those crusades.

>>51953283
Also last months WD.

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Re did list, also Pask is technically a solo Battle Group for bonuses since they are nice and free.

>>51953293
>It's not an Avatar of Khaine or a Greater Daemon of

It literally is an Avatar.

>>51953293
No. It's not. Stop shitposting.

The Yncarne is not Ynnead.

>>51953322
>>51953317
proofs :DD
Is Yncarne not the faction, btw?

>>51953212
So grab some of the big tech priests and the destroyers to mess up big heavy armour and to keep my dudes alive? Can I add the Cult HQ into a skitarii unit? Sorry if I sound like an idiot, I'm learning the game right now and I'm not sure about this stuff honestly. Thanks for all the help though , I appreciate it.

>>51953286

Jerkoff McFuckstain, Chaos cultist of Slaanesh, isn't going to get ressurected if he goes down in the one way he doesn't like. His soul will get tortured for all eternity but he's not going to be coming back to the material world.

Whereas Akka-dakka, Exalted Daemon of Slaanesh, can never truly be killed.

>>51952836
>Hell, did the Emperor ever bring people back from the dead?
Ferrus, as a warp ghost.

>>51953343
Well the fact that the unit is called "Yncarne" and not Ynnead is probably a good indication of that, even without the book at hand.

Also no, dumbass, the faction is Ynarri.

>>51953343
>proofs :DD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGwYxqKGcvY

>Is Yncarne not the faction, btw?

The faction is the Ynnari.

>>51953355
>Jerkoff McFuckstain, Chaos cultist of Slaanesh, isn't going to get ressurected

He might be if one of the gods decide that they want to do that.

>>51953351
You absolutely can. Battle Brothers can join each other's units seamlessly. They just can't start the game in each other's transports. it's somewhat dodgy about what special rules work on a unit vs. a model, though, so make sure to read the special rules you have carefully.

This is, obviously, only the recommendation of one asshole on the internet, but it's what I do.

Also, look into getting Bellisarius Cawl, from the recent Triumvirate of the Imperium. He unlocks a myriad of different options for your army, including new relics and the ability to take skitarii as a Combined Arms Detachment.

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>>51953382
wel shit

still won't do anything lorewise tho

>>51953305
I fucking hate how this game became NamedCharacterHammer40k

>>51953444
It brought Guilliman back, so obviously it's done something pretty significant lorewise.

>>51953471
I thought Cawl did that? The Eldar just provided a safe place to be while he did.

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>>51953471
>implying the Yncarnes influence won't end with Rouboutes ressurrection
>implying the lore of the Eldar won't be swept aside and put on hold again for the GLORIOUS IMPERIUM

Your new lore is merely a footnote of someone elses new lore

>Slaanesh will be kill

>>51953452
>became
Hey, remember 5th edition where your army was Ultramarines unless you took a named character?

>>51953452
Except it really hasn't.
Good lists aren't built around named characters most of the time.

>>51952368
yes, so are platoon command squads.
>>51952324
Ok you need 2 troop choices
a troop choice is either
a) a squad of veterans
b) a platoon

a platoon consist of
1 platoon command
2-5 infantry squads
some special and heavy weapon

all that counts as a single troop choice and you cannot take parts of it. sorry. its explained pretty badly i know.


I would give the chimera heavy flamers as they can only move and fire 1 weapon at full bs anyway, so you might aswell bring something different.
I would change the veteran flamer to meltagun as a single melta is rather meh and you do want different targets for both weapons. You have flamers covered with your chimera far better.

Leman russ squadron is bad as both vehicles of a squadron need to fire at the same target, if you take two single russ you do not have that problem.
Vanquisher wants to fire at armor, so instead of heavy bolters, i'd give him lascannon and maybe multimelta sponsons.
The battlecannon russ has an ordinance weapon, which means all other weapons only snapshot when you fire dat. Sorry. so no sponsons here.

>>51953418
I'll have a look into him once I get the basic army done, mainly because I'm terrified of painting him. Thanks for the advice though mate, I'll go have a go on some list builders and get some criticism from people now that I understand what I have available to me.

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Just got done with a battle today, first in many moons because work issues. I'm somewhat of a newbie, only 7 battles under me belt, and I was playing with 3 stone cold newbies. 2 v 2, me (Eldar) plus dude b (Eldar), going up against Imperial Fists and Skitaari alliance. 2k a side, 1k each player. I know, I tried to persuade them that 1 Eldar player on each side would have been better, but they insisted they wanted to Imperium-bro it up.
>Turn one, we got the first turn. Bikes shoot at marine squad, zero casualties. Prism shoots at Dread, nothing. Reapers hit Dunecrawler, blow it the fuck up. Game changing moment right there. Total casualties: 3 tac marines from different squads, 1 Dunecrawler.
>Their turn: strip 2 HP off Prism, I only survive by making 2 5+ invulnerables. Scatter fields, never leave home without them. They fuck up quite a few guardian squads due to bolter rerolls, kill all but one of my Scytheguard. Give them their dues, they knew their target priority. Admech guys, I forget which ones, the ones with 5 s2 shots each, take down my Dire Avengers. Shit, looks like they might just win this one, we got fucked up pretty bad.
>Turn 2. Pop the dread with the Prism, wipe a tac squad with the Scorpions (Exarch is fucking brutal with that claw), Guardians wreck some tacs pretty badly, Vypers take out a couple devastators, Scatbikes do fucking nothing again, Dark Reapers fuck up some skitsies, they've made at least double their points back by now holy shit.
>Their turn 2, the Skitaari guys who killed my DA kill my ally's guardian squad that had his Farseer in it, they beating us 3-2 on points so far but we can see they're about to get raped. Skitaari dudes AT-ST looking thing tries to pop my Prism, fails.
>Turn 3, we kill everything but their command squad, the Skitty command squad (mooks with the Warlord in there) and some squad of CC Skitty dudes, I don't know much about Admech. They concede, pansy space bullshit-flinging elves win again. Fucks sake.

>>51953530
>>51953452

Have any named characters before the Triumvirate of the Imperium seen common play aside from Magnus, Fateweaver and Pask? Maybe Khan?

The Triumvirates are a worrying trend, though.

>>51953310

Nice! Much more efficient than the list from earlier.
Is that Vendetta meant to have those missiles?

>Aeldari
>Dark Aeldari
>Clowndari
>Aemperiali
>Orrukari
>Atauri
>Achaosari
>Aspace Marinari

Can Heralds of Chaos not join units? They don't have the independant character rule.

r8
1850 The Purge (Vraks Renegades and Heretics) [Primary Detachment]
HQ
Renegade Command Squad: 1x Arch Demagogue (Ordnance Tyrant, Devotion of Nurgle)

Elites
Renegade Strike Battery: 2x Renegade Wyverns, heavy flamers
Renegade Strike Battery: 2x Renegade Wyverns, heavy flamers

Troops
17x Plague Zombies
17x Plague Zombies

Heavy Support
Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery: 3x Rapiers, 6x crew, weapons training
Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery: 3x Rapiers, 6x crew, weapons training
Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery: 3x Rapiers, 6x crew, weapons training
Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery: 3x Rapiers, 6x crew, weapons training

Fortification
Skyshield landing pad

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Allied Detachment (Chaos Space Marines; Word Bearers Legion)
HQ
Sorcerer on palanquin, master level 3, spell familiar

Troops
5x chaos space marines
Rhino, Perdus Rift Anomaly

Heavy Support
Fire Raptor, 2 reaper autocannon batteries, 4 balefire missiles

___
Heralds of Anarchic (Daemons)
HQ
Herald of Tzeentch, Paradox Psyker, ML3
Herald of Tzeentch, Endless Grimoire Psyker, ML1
7x Herald of Tzeentch, ML1

Figure I'd post it again since a majority of the army is on it's way. I won't be playing this casually, CSM for pick ups. I made this long before LVO and still think it's better than Kairos CAD.

>>51953310
I like the list. Though, if Pask is a solo Battlegroup, then you don't have an HQ for your CAD, so I think you have to take him as your CAD HQ with your current list.

However, you can drop one Vet squad, replace it with a Company Command Squad and equip them with the same guns. It will cost the same amount of points, and you already have your 2 Troop choice minimum, so that's a way to make Pask a solo Battlegroup.

>>51953619
draigo, coteaz, jacobus celestine (the old one in SoB lists), tigurius, longstrike, farsight, shadowsun, mephiston, bel'akor are common

some people like to use kharn and ahriman even they are not excatly good.

Reminder that Cruddace is rump-rustled as FUCK that even fandex tardhammers wrote better Ork codexes than he did, & everyone knows it.

>>51953619
Creed and Pask.

>>51953610

Their fault for stacking both aelves on one side. If it were me I would have handicapped the Aeldari side via points, terrain, objectives, or VP to even it out if I insisted on an Imperium alliance.

But apparently even my own faction hates my chapter so I'm either forever alone or don't give a shit about team composition

Anyone have a link to where I can find the codices in epub format? I am specifically looking for the craftworld eldar one but would like all to keep on my tablet. I do not want the pdfs in the op.

>>51953717
I forgot Azrael too. I didn't think the Tau ones were common, Draigo, old Celestine, and Mephiston are a bit on the iffy side, but I definitely agree I should've mentioned belakor, tigurius, and Jacobus.

>>51953013
>Not without cost. Celestine resurrections has left her soul greatly damaged. Each time she is reborn she is less becayse a part of her is lost. She is down to her last resurrection or two.

this is some Age of shitmar tier shit going on

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>>51953720
Keep saying that buddy. Better hope I don't get my hands on your codex.

>>51953619
just because you hate special characters doesn't mean other people do.

>>51953741
They had a 100 point advantage. Unfortunately, they spent it on a Termie Captain. He didn't do shit the entire game. They also had bad luck on their reserve rolls, they had 2 jump pack assualt squad in reserve. Fuck man, I wish we had a nerf for Eldar, we are just too goddamn OP. Though having said that, the feared Scytheguard did precisely fuck-all the entire game. Too easily kited, why are they bitched about so much again? But yeah, I tried to push them into 1 Eldar on each team, but no go. Bloody shame, my first battle in months and it was a boring kerbstomp. I was genuinely rooting for them to win, I only took the scytheguard because I was excited to use my new models. Do you think my list was too much? Should I tone it down some more? I just want an exciting game with both sides having a good shot at victory...

>>51953635
>>Atauri

What sort of videogames do you think they make?

>>51953707
Does the Priest not count?

>>51953857
>why are they bitched about so much again?

Because most of the time they get carted around in a Wave Serpent, meaning they'll always get at least one clear shot at the enemy on the turn they disembark.

>>51953857
>Do you think my list was too much?
you should adhere to the 1special per three jetbikes rule.

and no wraithguard that are not even in a transport are not too good as they are slow and short ranged.

Sidenote i would split the vyper into 1 single units, they gain nothing from being in a formation

>>51953628
I haven't got experience with them so Im not sure what is better.

>>51953635
>>Orrukari
its borks
coz orks arent good enough for an a

>>51953892

The priest has the Adepta Sororitas faction, but even if it had the Astra Militarum faction it wouldn't fill your HQ slot.

>>51953908
triple TL lascannon is better.
Always

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>>51953619
I like special characters, not because of their fluff, but I like that they allow you to play an army a different way. I personally use special character rules, but I rename them and give them my own fluff.

For instance, I like to play close combat and close quarters Guard. For that I use Straken, but my model is a mix of Command Squad parts and Scion parts with his own fluff that is vaguely similar. A tough man who commands at the front of the battle and uses a powerfist and a robotic arm sword.

>>51953892
He doesn't count as an HQ in an Imperial Guard army sadly.

>>51953908

Triple Twin-linked Lascannons are far superior on the Vendetta.

>>51953902
>they gain nothing from being in a formation

It's harder for the opponent to score First Blood by killing one of them. And you get more mileage out of Psychic Powers like Guide, which will buff them all at once.

Niche cases, but it's not totally pointless to use them in a squadron.

>>51950882
Plastics when?

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>>51953943
I put them into 1 unit on purpose, I was hoping the Onager/devastators would fuck them via templates/rerolling heavy bolters. Alas, wasn't to be. They killed about 160 pts worth of stuff, it almost makes me wish I hadn't gone Eldar but I love their fluff too much. Planning to ally in some Orks, as they are my second favourite faction. What would you suggest as a reasonable handicap for non-top-tier armies? 10% points? 200 points more would probably have swung things a lot more in their favour, and made for a better game.

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>>51951335
This is from early 90s

>>51951222
>Calling /tg/ a forum

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE YOU AUTISTIC 14 YEARS OLD SHITWARD FROM /V/ GET THE FUCK OUT TO 8ch!

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>>51954081
>getting this mad at funposters on an anonymous Indonesian basket weaving forum
wew lad, cool off

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>>51950886
It's objectively dogshit compared to his amazing Forgeworld one.

One is an understated, functional, statesman-like depiction that fits his character in the fluff perfectly. The other is a HURR-tier """"epic"""" model abomination with fucked hips, Tzeentch styling on the armour and a derp face that even the closeted AoS faggots it's aimed at can't stand and have to hide behind comments like 'teh model looks EVEN BETTER with the AWESOME helmet tho'.

Because that's what we wanted from the first loyalist Primarch in 40k, the pelvis of a syphilitic career-prostitute coupled with a face like a smacked arse, all wrapped up in an uninspiring armour suit in a generic-as-fuck pose.

I have a question about Objective Secured and Traitor Legions. If I get this right.. none of the formations or detachments Traitor Legions presents aside from the basic Cahso Warband actually give you ObjSec (as Troops are only ObjSec in a regular CAD). Is this right or what?

So for example, running a Plague Colony or a War Cabal leaves you with zero objective takers?

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>>51953831
I'd love for you to get your perfectly unbiased hands on my codex!

>>51954130

kek that comic is on point

>>51954174
Any scoring unit can hold objectives regardless of whether or not they have ObjSec.

ObjSec only comes into play when an ObjSec unit is contesting an objective with a non-ObjSec unit.

>>51954174
You can take Traitor Legions in a CAD as long as they fit the requirements. They just don't gain the Decurion benefits.

>>51951226
not yet, preoder is saturday, book is out a week later

What qualifies as scoring units?

>>51954214
Scoring Units
Any unit can be a scoring unit, unless:
• It is a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature, a Zooming Flyer or is a unit currently
embarked on a Zooming Flyer.
• It has a special rule specifying that it never counts as a scoring unit.
• It is currently Falling Back (if the unit Regroups it immediately reverts to being a
scoring unit again).
• It is a building or fortification that is unclaimed (claimed buildings count as a scoring
unit from the claiming player’s army).

>>51954214
literally anything that's not specifically stated to not be a scoring unit in the datasheet can score objectives.

>>51954214
Everything except Mucolids.

>>51954193
Exactly, so no, unless it's a Chaos Warband or a CAD, all these formations that include troops do not have ObjSec, putting you at a great disadvantage in games against others with them. Just wanted to clear it up.

>>51954201
I see, thank you!

>>51954130
>the original text had Bobby as the kid's name

This is too good.

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How do I go max radiation? I'm thinking Cawl, A couple units of Vanguard, one of which as a Pater Radium, and an Ordo Xenos Rad-nade Inquisitor with Saint Curia's Autopurger. Any other way for my boys in red to bring the nuclear apocalypse?

>>51954254
>putting you at a great disadvantage in games against others with them.
Troops generally aren't the heartiest or most mobile units unless you're Eldar lmao so don't worry too much about that.

Anyone got some homebrew lists you're currently fielding?

Tired of Min Maxing crap want to see some lists with a bit of thought / theme.

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>>51954130
Models looks so better without awkward pose plus GW was never good at painting faces.

>>51954232
Doesn't being locked in combat also disqualify them?

>>51954308
By homebrew do you mean rules we've made up ourselves? Or are you talking about lists we take that aren't min maxed/net lists/ideal units everyone agrees on?

I'd appreciate some input for my Kabal name. The main theme is to make sure it describes the splitting or sharing of a soul, representing my twin archons(and their entire family line) and how they were forced to be born as twins through Haemonculus fuckery. But they share a single soul because while it is impossible to create a soul, the Haemonculi can easily manipulate them.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12438904

If you have your own name, feel free to share it, too.

BFG Armada is 50% off on Steam right now.

Haven't played an RTS since Starcraft 1, which I played poorly, considering I was like, 11.

How'd you like it? Worth it?

>>51954321
No.

>>51954308
>homebrew
>good
Cut the pretentious crap, asking for a fun competitive and/or well-designed homebrew list is like asking me to shit on a plate and call it art.

>>51954329
I liked it. It's fun ramming ships and firing off torpedoes.

Campaign was a bit long winded though.

How do you run Noise Marines, anyway? All their special options are shooty; their Mark bonus is choppy; and they cost a fair chunk. A friend of mine suggested to stop thinking of them as 'specialist marines' and just as normal CSMs but better--a generalist unit, and to kit them out as such.

>>51954317
>Custodes leaving the palace

ree

>>51954336
Well we've all been playing it wrong this whole time then.

>>51954339
>Makes up argument
>Has argument with himself

Didn't say good now did I, I asked for a list that someone plays because it has a thematic reason...ya know, the reason this game exists?

>>51954265

It's Ricky. Ricky Bobby

>>51954322
B.

>>51954326

Maybe Kabal of the Shattered/Splintered soul?

>>51954317
It's the armor detailing that gets me. It doesn't fit the Ultramarines or Imperial style at all, it looks like the kind of lazy in-filling kids add to shit to make it look 'fancy'.

But also because everthing else is a pretty easy fix, the face can be painted differently/put under a bucket, the pose can be changed, but that weird tentacle detail is all over his armor.

>>51954376
>implying that's a diorama from outside the palace
>implying Guilliman isn't going to be the next Emperor
kek

>>51954392
Your definition of the word homebrew does not line up with literally everyone else's. If you want to see something other than netlists then make a list thread and ignore the WAACfags.

>tfw can't give ANY AP2 weapons to Heralds or the character Bloodletters
>Can't have 4 Heralds to a single HQ slot either
>Posessed tax for Slaughtercult
Why

GW pls let me make an okay all Bloodletter army

>>51954443
There aren't any AP2 Bloodletter weapons?

>>51951556
He seems to be trying to say "There were only 4 chapters with second edition codexes" because there has never been a point where there were only 4 space marine chapters, color schemes for more than 4 chapters have existed since RT.

Second edition space marine codexes were space wolves, ultramarines, and angels of death, giving us 4 chapters.

Other chapters were canon at this time, but they weren't represented by an actual codex.

So he's a retard.

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>>51954443
here you go m88888888

>>51954443
Mixed daemon armies are the best.

Embrace diversity.

Reminder that WAACfags ruined this game.

>>51954443
sorry dude, deamonkind is a weird mix of rules

>>51954308
eh i've flirted with the idea of making a few eldar phoenix lords but never got around to it, i redid some old chaos superheavies but lost the data

>>51954515
Illegal list.

Only allowed to take 4 heralds per HQ slot in your primary detachment. I suppose you could just run a third CAD.

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Good or no?

>>51954541

GW did.

>>51954496
Nope.

>>51954515
>Codex Bloodletter
Will the Start Collecting! box have a new Herald kit that will have a plastic Herald on Juggernaught that can optionally be assembled as Skulltaker on his super-juggernaught?

Also

>No Instruments of chaos
Bloodletters playing instruments always makes me laugh

>>51954530
No. I wish to make a horde of Bloodletters. An unending tide of blood and brass.

>>51954566
Easily fixed, throw Skulltaker by himself into the secondary CAD group all the Heralds together in the first, and make one of the Heralds the warlord.

>>51954602
Good thinking.

I've never run in to it but I hear some people take offense to more than two detachments/formations.

>>51952958
Donkey tanks have ridiculous amounts of anti-air with their Icarus weapon system.

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>>51954414
>It doesn't fit the Ultramarines or Imperial style at all

>>51954588
>Will the Start Collecting! box have a new Herald kit that will have a plastic Herald on Juggernaught that can optionally be assembled as Skulltaker on his super-juggernaught?
Yes and no

>Bloodletters playing instruments always makes me laugh
No place for instruments in the brazen horde son.

>those digits
KHORNE SMILES UPON YOU

>>51954637
ITC suggests a hardcap of 3 (with Decurions counting as one overall) and even that's pretty tight, basically eliminating any problem formations that weren't already cancer.

If people are seriously buttblasted about you bringing 3 fucking CADs to a game though you should probably just not play them in the first place.

>>51954637
Depends on the formations. There's plenty of them that just aren't that big of a deal but allow you to build a really cool theme. I take 2 CADs with Tau purely because I love having 4 HQs doling out cool combos.

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>>51954403
>>51954308
Here are a couple of unoptimized lists I take for fun. Straken is 50 points more on this builder, so the one list is 1800, but it's really 1850.

Bullgryn and Rough Riders are fun, but they never do well. Same with Straken. All of those units are targeted instantly and just become a distraction for the 30 man blobs to advance and those end up doing most of the heavy lifting. As always, cool stuff is a fire magnet.

What are some "your guys" ideas i could do with my necron army? i like how they play but so far i cant think of a cool story for them.

>>51954637
>more than two
What a bunch of faggots, arbitrarily picking 2. Either 1 or get the fuck out if you want to be a purist. Tournaments limit it to 3 for a reason. 2 is just wanting to be butthurt about it but still wanting to abuse having more than one detachment.

>b-but muh allies

Yeah, exactly.