Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>>51944348
>no Duncan
Fuck this thread. OP, you literally copied over the pasta from an old thread, so you have no excuse whatsoever.

>>51944374

Apparently Duncan isn't making vids because he's on vacation/holiday or something.

First for 'this is by far the worst thread on /tg/'.

>>51944374
Duncan has escaped his cage and made way to Sydney last time I checked.

>>51944329
Lol, that is the best post i have seen in along time.

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Back due to popular demand:

Reminder that pic related has a sweet melody which suits them perfectly now

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=IUGzY-ihqWc&feature=share

FAQ:
>Dubstep is gay lol?
Dubstep suits many chaotic factions as it is fairly chaotic
Also this song is hardly Dubstep

>I listened to three seconds and I thought it was shit?
No, you are shit. Try lasting longer than you do in bed next time, before giving a review

>If this music isn't to my personal taste, does that mean it is the wrong song for the Night Lords?
No

>ITS NOT METAL I CAN SHAKE MY NECKBEARD TO????
Metal music doesn't suit chaos, this isn't the 80s. The Night Lords have evolved a lot in the last 8-10 years, so get on board or fuck off. Metal only really suits World Eaters, even then, probably Hardcore.

>My Emps Children love the shit metal though!!!
No, your structured music would bore them to death. Please read current fluff, not your 80s shit

>LOL LOOK MY SHIT SONG ABOUT BATS OR LIGHTNING IS FUNNY
*Pat pat* nice original joke, friend

>Does the above point apply for any of my other "funny" song ideas?
Yes.

>I know more about music than you because that is brostep, not dubstep
Doesn't change the fact that it is the correct song for the Night Lords

>Why did you word that first sentence weirdly?
Because people thought they were clever with their spam filter

>You are getting less (you)s than ever, I thought that is why you do this?
No, it just proves how perfected my FAQ is.

>Is Curze a Demon Primarch, and true Prophet of the 8th?
Yes.

>>51944391
>>51944399
Then you do one of the following:
>use an old Duncan video, less dank but it's still Duncan
>leave in the meme video
>remove the link and keep the [Embed] chain

My mind always wanders when I'm mass painting. I'm regretting not blowing my trans friend before they rolled a weapon destroyed result on themselves.

What do you guys think about when painting?

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Alright, so I'm thinking of starting another Marine Army, ultramarines successors (wonder why, probably because I'm a faggot who wants guilliman)

In my defense I want Cypher and Voldus more than guillible
(but I am super stoked about a dp sized space marine)

So help me think about this list I'm building for my Fire Angles

Note that the list is a little different than the builder image allows, I've got one contemptor with two kheres assault cannons and the other has a multi-melta+fist+bolter

Besides that we have a mini-smashfucker in artificer armor, jump pack, shield eternal

A jumpy chaplain, a five man of assault marines with no evisc but the vet sgt has a power fist

I figure these seven assholes can punch a hole in just about anything, especially if a libby buffs them before they hop somewhere nasty.

Libs probably spam telepathy or biomancy or something

Someone who rolls bad probably gets put into a drop pod to psychic shriek as the tacticals pew-pew anything remotely dangerous looking.

I could see myself dropping some of the plasma guns for more melta, but I also want some anti-elite infantry which is why I took the 3-3 spread

Comments and criticism welcome.

>>51944404
Okay, enough is a enough, here is your (you) now don't come back

Only true music for that chaos chapter everybody is talking about.

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>>51944435

Stop fucking responding.

>>51944419
>I'm regretting not blowing my trans friend
Why? Are you gay or just curious? Legit question here.
>before they rolled a weapon destroyed result on themselves
I chuckled.

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>>51944436
pic cos i forgot

>>51944404
If Curze were to come back, what would he even look like? What god would he align with?
What kind of rules would he have?

>>51944436
That is a Khorne Demons song.
Thanks for the input though, friendo.

Finishing my DA competitive list, any critique?

Combined Arms Detachment

>Librarian (1) - 95pts
1 Librarian: Frag and Krak grenades,Psyker Master Level 2 (Telepathy),Bolt pistol,Force weapon,Auspex

>Saint Celestine (3) - 200pts
2 Geminae Superia: Power sword,Bolt pistol
1 Saint Celestine: Eternal Warrior,Independent Character,The Ardent Blade,The Armour of Saint Katherine

>Command Squad (5) - 200pts
1 Veteran: Grav-gun,Bolt pistol,Sacred Standart
1 Apothecary: Narthecium
3 Veteran: Grav-gun,Bolt pistol

Drop pod (1) - 35pts Dedicated Transport
1 Drop pod: Storm bolter

>Tactical Squad (10) - 200pts
1 Sergeant: Combi-plasma,Chainsword
1 Tactical Marine: Bolt pistol,Grav-cannon with grav-amp
1 Tactical Marine: Bolt pistol,Plasma gun
7 Tactical Marine: Bolt pistol,Boltgun

Drop pod (1) - 35pts Dedicated Transport
1 Drop pod: Storm bolter

>Tactical Squad (10) - 200pts
1 Sergeant: Combi-plasma,Chainsword
1 Tactical Marine: Bolt pistol,Grav-cannon with grav-amp
1 Tactical Marine: Bolt pistol,Plasma gun
7 Tactical Marine: Bolt pistol,Boltgun

Drop pod (1) - 35pts Dedicated Transport
1 Drop pod: Storm bolter

>Ravenwing Bike Squad (3) - 100pts
1 Ravenwing Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Melta bombs
2 Ravenwing Bike: Meltagun,Bolt pistol

>Ravenwing Bike Squad (3) - 100pts
1 Ravenwing Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Melta bombs
2 Ravenwing Bike: Meltagun,Bolt pistol

>Ravenwing Darkshroud (1) - 80pts
1 Ravenwing Darkshroud: Heavy bolter

>Ravenwing Dark Talon (1) - 160pts
1 Ravenwing Dark Talon

Oathsworn Detachment

>Knight Paladin (1) - 410pts
1 Knight Paladin: Reaper chainsword,Two heavy stubbers,Twin Icarus autocannon

>>51944404
>Complains about shit puns
Dude you posted a song about flaying people.
imo it doesnt fit night lords becuase its too chill but to each their own.

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>>51944445
Forgot to mention that I usually use my painting time to think about the fluff of my armies. It's how I have more than a few pages on them

>>51944454
He would be Tzeentch of course.
Also he would just look like a shadowy version of himself, hard to pin down his shape just by looking at him.

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>>51944419
>What do you guys think about when painting?
Not much, except for planning and watching out for details and such. I usually let something like music help myself drone out and perform the task without too much thought while time begins to fly.

>>51944445
I like it all, boys, girls, cross dressers, trans of either variety. I had an opportunity to go down on my trans friend when we were drunk together, but I never really pushed for it because it felt weird at the time and now I have that what if feeling. I saw pictures of it, it was very nice.

>>51944466
What army do you play?

>>51944490
Music is nice. Sometimes I like to put on a TV show I've already seen.

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We see a lot of shit about Orks, but let's have a change of pace. What in the Ork codex feels right? As in, what rules/units feel appropriately Orky, and what's costed well?

I'm going to kick off by bringing up Trukks. They blow up when anything even looks at it funny and can actually be a hazard for the unit inside. But, they're 30 points, fast and open-topped so whatever it's transporting can actually go somewhere and assault. I think they nailed what the Ork's basic transport vehicle is.

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So how fucking badly does Celestine want Guilliman's 2 foot dick? Because in this little passage she is THIRSTY AS FUCK.

Also that description of Guilliman wrecking black legion marines like they're grots is giving me a boner too.

FUCKING HYPE

>>51944484
>Tzeentch
Come on. While I do enjoy Tzeentch and all, I doubt Curze would be loyal to him. If anything I can see him coming back from his soul somehow taking form in the warp again or favor from something like Malice/Malal, but not one of the main 4.

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Looking for feedback on my Thousand Sons fix.

Thanks.

>>51944513
>What in the Ork codex feels right?
the paper they used to print the codex?

>>51944419

Honestly, painting is one of the times (there are a few)when I think I might be legitimately autistic because I get weirdly focused on what I'm doing. While I'm painting, I'm thinking about what I'm painting, even if it's just base coating.

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>>51944526
>Implying that Curze wouldn't be doing Tzeentch's willz even if he thought he wasn't
>Implying Curze's will would still be his own if he was a demon Primarch
Come on friendo, you need to be better at this if you want to help contribute.

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Rate my "I forcibly crammed a fourth immolator in there" 1000 points list?

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>>51944506
Eh, drunk sex is overrated anyway. I wouldn't worry about it too much, and I mean if you're also into trans then he/she/whatever's still available if you really feel that way.
Don't worry, I'm from /dsg/ so I'm highly knowledgeable on the topic of sucking cocks. Anything you want to know?

These days I usually play Dark Eldar but I spend most of my painting time painting Marines that never see the table.

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>>51944548
Those aren't my Sons.

>>51944554
That kind of focus is nice. I wish I had that. I find I make too many mistakes when painting because I'm distracted by random thoughts. I have to have essentially two painting sessions for each model. One to finish the batch then another to fix all the mistakes.

>>51944568
what tips can I give someone sucking my cock so they can do better (I'm very large if that has any impact on it)

>>51944568
>Drunk sex is over rated
Careful mate, your virginity is showing

Is there a chapter themed after Arabic or Islamic culture? Genuinely asking.

>>51944582
>he's never actually done it
It's hard my dude. It can be legit difficult to get it up if you're smashed, much less go all the way. Don't even try it if one of you is blackout drunk or prone to throwing up.

>>51944582
hold on, I'm not that anon but I do have a lot of experience putting my penis into butts

drunk butt sex is terrible for everyone involved, unless the butt you're fucking is super slutty or your dick is tiny you'll just rip their ass and cause them massive pain, discomfort. You might also hurt their feelings if they trusted you not to cause them to shit blood.

>>51944579
Just ask her to get a nice fine tip on your brush, and apply two thin coats to her face
I'm talking about cum

>>51944599
>her

>>51944568
She's dating a qt pseudo chad so she's off the market. And I've had my good share of penis in my mouth.

Dark eldar are cute in a kinky scary way. I've thought about doing a DE army because I like some models. Maybe I'll just get some to paint and come up with some kinky fluff.

>>51944579
Really depends on how well you know yourself. It's weird to say and hard to explain but you know where your most sensitive areas are and if you're adventurous maybe you've done some exploration of your own too. These are things it's helpful for a partner to know because if they know what they're doing they can really use it to their advantage. Tips won't help an absolute newfag that much though.

>>51944420
any feedback or are we just going to talk about guilliman slamming celestine like we all want to slam the slightly effeminate guy in our gaming club

>>51944513
Mek Guns are pretty good. They are well costed, excellent anti-MEQ. Also best anti-flier I can think of.

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>>51944561
Actually, I guess this would be better, even if my autism suffers.

>>51944515

He's wearing her iron halo, dawg. She basically gave him her panties.

>>51944556
You do have a point with the idea that he wouldn't have much, if any of his own will as a Daemon Primarch (though what I was implying with the first suggestion is making him something close to, but not exactly a daemon primarch, so nothing going against the rules of daemon primarchs)
I'm pretty sure Curze doesn't fit with Tzeentch though, and would fit under a different god much better.

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>>51944632
>degenerate
>thinking delusional retard men are women

>>51944561

If you're going to take a throwaway HQ, take a priest, not a 95pt canoness. Conversely if you want her to be better, you can drop a few Seraphim, especially at 1000 points. Dropping 2 Seraphim is an extra 30pts, which is a combi-weapon and a rerollable armor save, though if you want the extra attack for using a power weapon instead of an Evicerator, then a melta pistol might be better. You can drop a dozer blade for that. Two dozer blades upgrades a rerollable armor save to eternal warrior.

Also note: as of IA, Immolators are fast attack, so you don't have to staple them to the Retributers. There's no downside to that except for a single mission type, but you should remember that the Ret AoF doesn't ever apply to the Immolator.

>>51944620
>she's off the market
Fuck man, that really is the worst. I'm so glad I made a move on my gf when I did, in hindsight I can't believe I was considering staying single to >explore more. Good luck out there dude.

>kinky fluff
Yeah... Believe it or not I went into the army just for the models but after steeping myself in the lore the fluff kinda just happened.

Does anyone else think GW made Orks so bad on tabletop to drive away the powergamers and reserve the faction for hobbyists?

>>51944632
What are the various wage gaps between the 77+ genders like these days?

>>51944655
>people still think a priest is a legal HQ choice

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>>51944652
>Letting the opinions of other anons turn you in to a sheep

>>51944670

What the fuck do you expect from morons who still use that worthless piece of shit army builder and don't even read their codex

>>51944656
>Dating women in the current year
You really ARE a fag.

>>51944665
Non-existant.
What's it like being a slave to religious ideals?

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>>51944633

See
>>51944655

Don't worry about squad autism. I have it too, though points values trigger it harder. If it makes you feel any better, the perfect squad size for Seraphim used to be 7 back in Witch Hunters because of how AoF worked with their special rules.

As for the blade, it's solid against MEQ, just stay away from anything with a 2+. That's why I prefer a combi+evicerator.

>>51944670
>>51944679
>i have literally never read the shitty copy paste job that is Imperial Agents

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>>51944673
>Letting the feelings of a mentally challenged man make you believe he can change gender

>>51944683
Not religious.
Nor do I believe in normalizing mental illness.

>>51944682
>implying it's not a preop transmale who insists on female gender pronous
Well excuse me faggot, looks like someone forgot to check their privilege.

It's not, but I'm happy with her anyway. Dick is alright but I love her so a pussy is fine too.

>>51944684
I'm not expecting much TEQ, my meta is MEQ + vehicles.

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Whatre you guys working on?

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>>51944691
>Calling someone mentally challenged for natural gender feelings because the Bible only has man and woman

>>51944552
Nah. it's way too smooth and the text and images stand out rough making it feel like a dirty table.

>>51944714
>Bible
*human biology

>>51944705
I just had to tease. I am also dating a girl. Pussy feels really good. I'm used to ass, but I must say pussy feels nicer. I miss dick though, but that's how it goes. If you like a lot of things whatever one you pick, you'll miss something else.

>>51944714
So does anything measurable or quantifiable in nature. If an insane person thinks they have bugs under their skin you don't tell them that it's a natural feeling.

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>>51944721
not him but
>implying gender roles are biological in nature
>implying the brain is not a part of human biology
kek say hello to my folks over there in 1980 would you

>>51944714
Schizophrenia is natural too

>>51944731
Just say it anon. Remind us what year it is

Fucking cesspool of shit, where is my warhammer? What is it about fucking shemales?

>>51944513
Buggies and wartrakks are pretty spot on.

Big meks maybe

Snikrot feels like he should too

I was going to say Zagstrug as well but then i realised he only has a fucking choppa after HoW has been resolved.

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>>51944684
I never want to take a throwaway HQ, but they're usually the first one I pinch points from. I'm printing most of these lists out because I'm gonna have the models for them anyway and then I guess I can pick and choose when I actually get to have a game.

>>51944742
I don't know, someone keeps feeding them attention.

>>51944742
Surprise surprise, 40k players are faggots, what else is new?

>>51944711
Magnus, and soon after some Rubrics, Daemons of Tzeentch, and then if I'm not burnt out my backlog of terrain, old Necrons I never got to, and some BoP stuff.

>>51944714
You're fetishizing the Bible here when you mean to say biology.

>>51944742
Homo erotic Marine """"brotherhood""""" is 10X gayer than fucking a shemale.

Its not fucking natural for an animal (humans are animals) to walk on 2 legs, so go down and crawl? Dumb fags.
Is it fucking natural to see and hear the person on another continent with planet basically benween you 2? No.
If glorious human technology allows us to fix the body to the glorious supreme design of our mind, rathen than hormone gland, why the fuck you think its different?

>>51944448
>not youtube.com/watch?v=HsGRsDe3iRw
SLAANESH SINGS THROUGH ME

>>51944731
How is gender as a concept different from sex?
Mutilating your genitals, getting a botched titjob, and wearing shitty PayLess high heels is still just a man with mental illness.

>>51944711
I've a shitload of Deathwatch models with legs torsos and backpacks, can't assembler more before i prime them to It'll be hell to get at the tight places.

Also working on lists to playtest before I settle on what armaments to glue on.

>>51944768
>he doesn't know gender is a mental state of mind
Don't you have an abortion clinic to bomb or something?

>>51944706

If that's the case, then blade is nice. I have to chew through Bikes and Cents, so the S6 Ap2 really helps. However, the biggest problem with Blade is the fact that it eats up your relic, and EW on a T3 model is worth 25pts. I get a very smug feeling when she eats a Powerfist to the face and then mows down the offender with her fuckhuge chainsword.

>>51944745
>PP+PS

Eh. I would urge you to reconsider. Not only are you paying 25pts for the Sword and Pistol, you're paying an extra 10pts for the squad upgrade. PPs are generally a bad investment anyway, but you're effectively paying 20pts for it.

If you need to kill 35pts, give your immolators Laud Hailers and stick a storm bolter on the Exorcist.

>>51944785
Next you're gonna claim vaccinations are bad for you and the earth is flat.

>>51944761
Because it warrants a suicide rate 20 times higher than the national average with a slew of substance abuse and depression.

>>51944791
Prove me wrong, then.
>Next you're gonna claim vaccinations are bad for you and the earth is flat
Are you... Trying to project a strawman?

>>51944788
The stupid Seraphim leader is mostly because I want her to do something stupidly awesome that I can then brag about until Abaddon reaches Terra.
And I like to wysiwyg, I guess.
I totally agree about the Eternal Warrior thing, but I'm gonna use the canoness Veridyan model so it made more sense to me to have a blade, and a s3 power sword isn't gonna cut it.

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On the topic of actually doing 40k Stuff

>Be me
>Big Fall of Cadia event coming up at the local store
>Traitor legions has ensured that Chaos will be well represented
>Offer to bring Dark Angels successor
>Making plans, there's gonna long series of tables, narrative battles to be played over the course of the day
>Suddenly something comes up
>Abandon my fellow loyalists to pursue my own goals
>mfw

I felt kinda bad until I realized I had taken my commitment to the Dark Angels theme to a meta level

This conversation and everyone involved deserves an evening in the pain glove

>>51944816
As a son of Dorn, I will yield then.

>>51944575

Often, I find myself unable to not finish painting, which is bad because then I'll rush towards the end when I need to be the most careful. I'll usually fix things later, though not always.

I might start batch painting, though because I need to make a dent into these Night Lords. Maybe I'll do legs, torso, back back for a whole squad, though honestly, I've never done partial assembly painting before.

>>51944816
Can you reply to the shitposters so your complaints are filtered along with the useless garbage?

will triplehelix ship to leafland if I leave an email order?

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>>51944781
On the subject of Deathwatch.

Watch master with inherent +1 tactics change and relic and warlord trait roll access
OR
Watch Captain Artemis with his automatic +1 tactics change fixed warlord traits, D grenade and one shot 2+ flamer?

>>51944448
First thing that came to mind with this

https://youtu.be/5nO2A-ELpp0

>>51944868
nameless character > named character every time

if your commander isn't your dude, no one can be your dude

>>51944848
Delivery terms say yes.. if it's Non-GW.

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>>51944877
>not using the rules for a named character to form the crunch for your original character's fluff

>>51944877
The issue is that the watch commander has to run about with his wannabe custodes spear and "spookeh robot ghosts" wristwatch.

Only options are relics and special weargear, no armour or weapons.

>>51944896
true, but the custodes spear has a parry and that makes me happy

>>51944513

Trukks felt a lot better with the old Ramshackle rule. It had a fun, fluffy random aspect, and made them less deadly to their cargo when they did inevitably explode. The new Ramshackle is just boring, and in conjunction with new Mob Rule ensured Trukk Boyz wouldn't be a think again. It was one of the few times that removing a random table genuinely made the game worse.

>What in the Ork codex feels right?

It's a tough one, because even the good units have glaring problems. Mek Gunz are in a good place so long as you ignore Smasha, Zzap and Bubblechukas, which just having glaring flaws. If you're just focusing on the good guns though, then it's a unit I feel is in a good place. Probably 50% of that though is down to the current artillery rules; if they went back to the previous system of the guns being AV10 vehicles that died to any glace or penetrate and you randomized hits against the crew or gun, Mek Gunz would get much worse very, very quickly. And why can't they take a Runtherder/Slaver anyway?

Honestly the only unit I can think of that's pretty much spot on is Buggies. They're cheap, fast, twin-linked Dakka with outflank. They explode like fireworks and that's completely fine; fits their theme and role perfectly.

>>51944743
>Snikrot feels like he should too

Until they allow him to assault out of reserves and give him some kind of rule that buffs his Fear, he won't fit the background or be effective.

>>51944913
>>51944896
Oh and for some reason the supreme commanders isn't issued goddamn specialist ammo.

>>51944932
>some kind of rule that buffs his Fear,
>implying Snikrot is scarier than hell Daemons

>>51944745
>Power weapons
>Plasma Pistols
>Sisteds of Battle

Troll list or just stupid.

Never ever buy a sister superior for your Seraphims. Unless you are taking old Celestine, so the superior can take the challange instead of her.

Give superior a combi weapon, never a melee weapon. Never!

If you wish to spend the extra points give some Immolator a laud moaner or Storm Bolter to the exorcist.

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>>51944933
what? he's got it built into the spear

you can even give it the relic special ammo

>>51944940

He used to have a special rule where if you lost combat against him, you'd take the LD test at -1 LD. It was fluffy if not particularly powerful.

But Snikrot is supposed to be genuinely terrifying. The Ork Hunters of Armageddon aren't scared of any Ork but him, which given their occupation means he's gotta be pretty damn spooky.

>>51944948
It's not on his profile, but I guess that's the GW QC we know and love.

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hey guys just got into 40k and know almost nothing about it
im wanting to make a crimson fists army and i have some units already but i need an hq
can i still table pedro kantor? i know the model is old and i dont know if he can still be used in the current edition

>>51944965
The Deathwatch codex is monumentally shit. Everything about it. The fluff, rules layout, rules design and formation, all of it is terrible.

>>51944949
>Snikrot is supposed to be genuinely terrifying
To guardsmen.

Fear works just fine for that.

>>51944972
Yes.

>>51944941
Well I knew I was making stupid choices but I had reasons. I always get stuck in close combat so I feel like I might as well take things with me if I'm gonna go.
Also
>Plasma pistols
Only one, and that's because I like the Seraphim Superior model. I'm not exactly gonna get another Dominion Squad or even an extra immolator for the points I'd save taking off all the power weapons.

>>51944965
doesn't really need to be on his profile, since he can't take boltguns/bolt pistols from the regular wargear list

>>51944980
>Yes.
awesome
i also see the model is made out of metal, would my normal cutters work on that or do i need something different?

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>>51944983
Or then I'd have to pinch off stuff from the Canoness, making her not-so-good.
Look at this, I'm already planning a 1,500 point list. I'm only hoping to have casual games though. I know I'd get shit off the board in a tournament.

For what army is Power Weapon+Plasma Pistol the least bad? Space Wolves?

>>51944994
Depends on what you're intending to do. You can use clippers to remove those little pewter tabs just fine, but if you're planning to chop through a limb for some purpose you should really use a saw.

>>51944978
I really want to argue that, but there is no counterpoint.

Why did codex Operators operating operatingly have to be a failure.

>>51944985
It doesn't need to but it'd make it a lot easier, for all the shit we give Warmahordes and AoS, All relevant info on one sheet is a godsend.

Especially for fucking eldar aspect warriors with two pieces of specialist wargear, inherent rule, and then the exarch versions of same

>>51944732
Yep.
Are you saying that they are making it up?

>>51945019
>Power Weapon+Plasma Pistol
The ones that get them for 5 Points each and has inherent preferred enemy.

>>51944812
DA are traitors, you played your narrative perfectly.

>>51945023
>It doesn't need to but it'd make it a lot easier
I guess, but it's the sort of thing you check once and then never need to check again.

>>51945019

SoB for once off PE/Ignores cover, probably.

>>51944916
Yeah the old Trukks were better, but they're still a very Orky transport.

I'll also second the stuff about Mek Guns, like >>51944627 said too. They're a collection of wacky but wonderful guns, with Traktor Cannon being one of the best anti-air weapons in the game. It's got good synergy too, since it grounds FMC for your boyz to charge (in theory).

I'd also go ahead and throw Meganobs into the mix too. 40 points for 2w, 2+ armour and 3 klaw attacks is pretty good going. That can be upgraded to 4 armourbane attacks too, or cheap skorchas. Their main problems are their lack of an invulnerable save, and shit leadership. Though Bullyboyz fixes the latter. You can also take them in min squads of 3, better than most Termies if you just want to wreck something weaker.

>>51944983

I got the ready-to-order Seraphim superior, but chopped the PP for a bolt pistol.
If you pop shred for the hand Flamers, it'll carry over to assault for the PSiirc.

Convince me why i should play your army Anon

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>>51945095
This is why.

>>51945095
Your a masaochist who loves losing

>>51945095
No.
Because in two days you'll be whining about it.

>>51945095
Magnus did nothing wrong.
Unfortunately the rules are worse than mediocre if you want to play relatively fluffy though

>>51944999
Are you facing Orks or retarded players?

Those are the only way to make penitent engines works and you need 6 minimum. Also in Castellans of the Imperium for the sweet hatred.

You are better off with combi melta with your dominions. Power weapons and storm Bolter in dominions is not only wasting points but stupid.

Dominions will die after they destroy their target.
Repeat after me. Dominions will die after destroying thier target. If they live beyond that then it was sheer luck.

You are not playing marines, think SoB as guardsmen any result beyond them dead after doing what they are suppose to do is a bonus.

Have the fucking superior, use is as a normal seraphim, power sword and plasma pistol is wasting 35 points. You are wasting a rhino or an Immolator with that superior with so many useless upgrades.

Power weapon in SoB are a legacy of third edition when even a S3 power weapon was rather usefull as it ignore armour, yes 2+ saves meant very little to a power weapon.
Same goes for plasma pistols, there was a time when you could double tap pistols so.

Since GW writer never got the memo they kept the same cost and shit from editions ago.

Who has fluffed out their commander?
I wanna hear about Your Dude.
The Your Dude. The Leader Dude. Mainly interested in the name/faction.
keep it short

Mine is Count Dracul De Vrees, Chaos Raptor Lord, leading the remains of 44th company Night Lords.

>>51945142
Not my current army
Commander Falcon not posting the autistic Tau names supreme commander of the Ro'kaan Expeditionary Force.
Sent officially to explore for new mining worlds near the Damocles Gulf, but was actually a front engineered by said commander to have the sept defect to the Farsight Enclaves; the Expedition fleet plays host to an array of advanced suit tech that was intended as a peace offering. Recently secured a shrine world as a vital refueling and rearming outpost, but attracted the ire of Marines and Sisters in doing so, leading to a bitter planet-wide campaign. I wrote this all before Mont'ka, so fuck knows what he's doing now with the gulf on fire

>>51945142

>Canoness Murderfucker
Killed Farsight in a single round of combat, took an onager gauntlet hit on the chin and tanked it with her 6++, Dropped Draigo to 1 wound before the game ended, cut a farseer in two then dragged the torso around as a reminder to knife ears and went full Rules of Nature on a Brass Scorpion.
She hasn't been a casualty yet.

>>51945132
My bad 55 points in Sargent equivalent.
10 to make it a superior
15 power sword
15 plasma pistols
15 point base model.

You can grab another Immolator for 5 points more you see the issue now don't you?

>>51944374
I wish I had my Duncan folder at hand right now, I'm in class tho

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>>51945193

>>51944404

the song is bad
> NO, YOURE BAD REEEEEE

>JUST BECAUSE YOU DONT LIKE THE SONG DOESNT MEAN IT DOESNT WORK
You're correct, but obviously the inverse is true too.

>REEE METAL SUCKS THIS ISNT THE 80'S
literally wrong, but everyone gets to have their own shitty opinion.


In my opinion, the song doesn't work. The female vocalist is too calm, the structure is too stable (it's in fucking 4/4th), and the lyrics are meaningless because you've given a stealth Legion a theme song. Their theme is snapping twigs. Their theme is the roaring clash of thunder. Their theme is the hairs on the back of your neck raising. Their theme is the anguished screams coming from those who wish they could die.

That's coming from someone who accepted "running in the 90's" as a theme for my friend's deldar.

Okay, friend?

>>51945200
You bastard

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>>51945203
>That's coming from someone who accepted "running in the 90's" as a theme for my friend's deldar.
Are they a friend of the vaporware DE players by any chance?

>>51945142
Force Commander Hartmann Roderick, part of the Ultramarines honour guard. Scion of Iax, bane of the traitor. He's leading a small detachment of the honour company stationed around the Cadian gate.

He likes long walks on the beach.

>>51945250
>Hartmann Roderick
subtle

>>51945265
did I unknowingly reference something

>>51945142
Canoness MurderTits.

Enemy special characters? No problem. Tanks? Easy. MC? Just a bigger target.
Normal dudes? Automatically dies.

>>51945270
If you didn't do it on purpose then I'm probably seeing a reference when there's just nothing there.

>>51945282
How do you equip her?

Question:

What is the purpose of skyfire weapons on a flier?

>>51945296
I didn't do it on purpose but now you've got me curious as to what you've seen since that's totally possible when slamming two random names together.

>>51945310
Death from the Skies shittery, just ignore it unless your opponent is a retard and tries to force you to use the supplement.

>>51945132
I'm fighting CSM, possibly Death Guard, Space Wolves, DKoK, Dark Eldar/Harlequins, and maybe even orks.
And yeah I guess our local meta is pants-on-head retarded, or my sisters survived all those turns because my opponent was distracted shooting at my guardsmen, I don't know, I haven't had a chance to play a game using only sisters yet.

>>51944623
>this much projecting
shit famalam you need to take a look in the mirror

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>>51945142
Tribune Alicio of the Adeptus Custodes. Known lovingly as Can-Opener.

Went a game where he single handedly killed over 30 World Eaters by himself and took zero wounds. Ended the game by popping a Land Raider with a Melta Bomb.

Next game saw him walk into two squads of Jetbikes and singlehandley cut them all down, walk into two Rhinos and detonate them, and then killed 15 Word Bearers with shooting and combat. Took one wound all game from a marine smacking him with a bolter.

In his latest game he fought SOS and carved his way through about 30+ of them with only 3 basic Custodes attached to him.

He is a can opener and a meat grinder.

>>51944978
>The Deathwatch codex is monumentally shit. Everything about it.
So... Detatchment worth using over CaD?

Formations are as said clunky and unwieldy but similarly, obsec with 5 man strong mini-deathstars is similarly bad.

>>51945371
free deepstrike is pretty gud, though the main benefit is not needing to paint or assemble any drop pods

>>51945378
And extra tactics change.

But man does those forced mixed squads chafe my ass, makes my razorback literally useless, unless i take an Aquila team with librarian...

Well fuck, that's a self made kraken round/plasmacide team, rerolling 1's to wound take s the bite outta get's hot.

Too bad the Razorback can't use plas or specialist ammo.

>>51944513
>HQ
Having Painboyz as independent characters is great. They're practically an auto-take, and it would be nice to take them as you do meks to see more variation with HQ choices, but it's a step in the right direction.

Speaking of which, meks are a nice addition with plenty of utility.

>Elites
Tankbustas do their job reasonably well, and with a range of options that sets the benchmark for other "aspect orks" units (lootas, flash gitz, burna boyz etc). If orks see an update, it would be nice to see these other units get the same treatment.

Meganobz are almost viable and would cover a weakness in the ork 'dex if just their Ld was improved.

>Fast Attack
Buggies are fantastic for their cost, fit their role and fluff perfectly.

Warbikers are an excellent package, but we all know this already.

Stormboyz are just as fast as they ought to be, trouble is they're even faster at dying.

>Heavy Support
Mek Gunz have some niche options that cover the 'dex's weakness. Some options are useless though and overall their viability hinges more on the nature of artillery rules than anything specifically novel about the unit.

Battlewagons cover a niche role as it's good to have AV14 at your disposal.

Lootas are reliable as ever, though with a disappointing lack of variety.

Looted Wagons are disgustingly low priced for an AP3 template, but pack plenty of appropriate drawbacks to make up for it.

>>51945412
> unless i take an Aquila team with librarian...

you were taking ANYTHING else? man the only other one thats even vaugly acceptable is the one that comes with a single terminator, only so you can make a fragcannon/CML drop pod squad

>>51945429
Honestly LW are kinda crappy. even at 67 points, being only str 7 hurts them when shooting at tanks, or units with FNP, and they still have the 1/6 chance of hitting the bed. they only seem good becuase the rest of the options are so bad.

>>51945351
Is he, per chance, sheild/familar/paragon build?
aka, lord of bullshit, master of the underpriced

>>51945297
She only comes out to play at 1850 or higher.

Mantle of Ophidia
Evicerator
Rosarius

With I3 she might hit last regardless so why not give her an extra punch.

She survives by sheer luck against big scary things not because her stats or rules are good

>>51945483
Wel I was considering the Dominatus Vanguard/Vet team, to drop right next to enemy elites with double frag cannon, two ablative shotgun/stomshield vets and then rippy Vanguards for a "assault me and die, don't assault me and I'll shoot and THEN assault you"
But in hindsight.. LCs, Shotguns and Frag cannons all have shred making re-rolling to wound vs elites.. pointless.

Can't even bring ANY Vanguard/Bikers in the detachment without having vets on their ass.

Fuck that book is a rag, totally lets down the sweet kits.

>immolators and Canoness Veridyan go out of stock the day before I can make my order
WHICH ONE OF YOU KEKS WAS IT

>>51945525
>Implying anyone else on /tg/ is dumb enough to order from GW direct.

>>51945531
>implying ordering from Ebay is any cheaper

>>51945531
Got one of the only two in stock from my LGS. Not sure why GW never provides enough, even for the non limited stuff.

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>>51945429
>Meganobz are almost viable and would cover a weakness in the ork 'dex if just their Ld was improved.

Tried them as the Bullyboyz formation on the weekend. Holy shit they wreck face. Fearless and WS5 is a massive gamechanger.

They still go down hard to anything with Ap2 but man can they bully anything without it.

>Looted Wagons are disgustingly low priced for an AP3 template, but pack plenty of appropriate drawbacks to make up for it.

You could just pay 18 points more and get an AV14 emplacement with triple the range and Str 8 to go along with the AP3.

>>51945548
>GW or Ebay
Wow, life must be hard for you.

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How's this? I would rather have more immolators but they're not gonna be up for sale by the time I get my next 500 points of girls.

>>51945593

> not going to the glorious Chinese overlord recasters

People should have learned now.

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>>51944513
I think people are forgetting how awesome it is that Meks can take Kustom Mega Blastas (str 8, Ap2, gets hot) for 5pts. No one else has access to Plasma for so cheap. (too bad meks are the only ones who could take em)

mfw I've killed countless unsuspecting heroes with a Mega Blasta (like 3)

>>51945592
>but man can they bully anything without it.
Successful Ork gameplay in a nutshell.

Never go toe to toe with an "equal", always bully the weaker and send more bodies than the stronger enemies have bullets.

And if neither of those work, massed unreliable artillery

>>51945185
>>51945521

Hell yes. My Kranoness just butchered an invisible Black Night leader on Saturday in a challenge thanks to Hatred.

Before that, she annihilated a KDK bike lord, murdered a Librarian along with some Centurions, murdered more Centurions, and also murdered a Farseer. The first time I dropped Celestine for the Kranoness and command squad was the first day of my new 40k life because I never looked back.

Also
>3

Check again, buddy. The Canoness rocks a hard I4.

>>51945525

I swear to christ, if I get fucked for ordering through an LGS again, imma be so goddamn mad.

>>51945620
just stupid their pistols are twice that when they can't even use their profile in CC.

>>51945629
I was going to say that about her Iniative, but she's still gonna strike after most things in close combat.
>>51945636
My first time ordering through GW was very pleasant. I ordered online though.

>>51945642

Yea, she's always been I4, which was great in Witch Hunters because if you took a Blessed Weapon instead of an Evicerator, you could faith to i6, which was hilarious.

As for ordering, I have no problem ordering directly, but I like to support my stores. Also, I get 25% off, which helps of course.

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>>51945500
He didn't have a shield, but I since gave him one because he's a fucking gladiator.

Then I realized how broken that combo is and rarely count the shield as anything other than ornamental.

>>51945605
Functional enough. You could drop 4 Seraphim and get a Rhino for a Battle Sister squad.

Smaller footprint for the Seraphim and a transport to move around a squad of BS.

No rhino? Ask a marine player for one. Even my grandmother has a Rhino and she is dead.

>>51945607
I wouldn't mind looking into rebates if it wasn't a nightmare to fund/deal with them.

>>51945667
Totally forgot about that. I'm so used to hit last that I forgot

>>51945690
Recasters*
Find**

>>51945690
Honestly the best ones are on reddit and you should really just search their names on r/yoyhammer. Z and Alpharius are best.

>>51945682
I do have a Rhino actually. Now I'm wondering if I could exchange one dominion squad for a command squad, but I don't know what I wanna take on it if I'm gonna use it to escort my Canoness into battle. Rule of cool would say Hospitaller, Army standard and 3 storm bolters but I bet I'd get yelled at really loud for it here.

>>51945667
>25% off
I wish some of my LGS's did this. The best any in my area do is 10$ credit every $100 spent.

>>51945715
That's still 10% back
In my local store I usually get a small reduction in prices (Like "Well I'll let you have those three paints for free" or "Let's say 200 euros instead of 215") or some free stuff they'd have to send back to GW otherwise.

>>51945490
Hey, they suck in comparison to other faction's options, but that's orks.

>>51945592
>You could just pay 18 points more and get an AV14 emplacement with triple the range and Str 8 to go along with the AP3

Aye, but with no movement or transport capability.

>>51945641
But they get an EXTRA choppa attack!!!

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So I really want to use Kastelans but have no Knight, so I can't just toss them in a War Convo and call it a day (not like they'd fit in a 1500 War Convo anyway).

Was wondering if something like pic related would be the best way to run them or if I should instead drop the Dominus Maniple, move the Skitarii over to their Skitarii Maniple and form a War Congregation with the Kataphrons and Kastelans.

The most fun way is definitely a Cohort Cybernetica but I only have one Kastelan unit right now.

>>51945709
This probably sounds stingy/stuck up, but do you know which accept Paypal? I'd prefer to not give my credit card info to random Chinese sellers.

>>51945531
implying you get them anywhere else
but i use my GW store for ordering and have it shipped there. Its just faster and everything

>>51945310
you cannot shoot that weapon at ground targets except skimmers, only snapfire?

Hey guys, which book has the rules for the revenant titan? :o

>>51945429
Battlewagons are very good. They're like the mullet of transports; business (AV14) in the front, party (20 orks) in the back. By the time your opponent gets around the back for AV10 you should have dropped off your boyz.

>>51945620
The problem with that is they're BS2. You'll only hit a third of the time and a sixth of the time you'll blow up (especially due to 6+ armour) and lose you 15pt boy. 5pts is really just an appropriate cost.

>>51945712
That could work at 1500+ since it needs more gear to be useful.

Fun thing command squad can dual wield special weapons.

You could have combi-plasma + flamers on 4 models + the medic

If you can get a Repressor enjoy the drive by shooting.
With 3 fire points on each side and 2 on the top. For 75 you have a 13/11/10 vehicle with Storm Bolter and a heavy Flamer.

>>51945789
They both actually use PayPal.

>>51945789
Everyone uses PayPal but amazone for some odd fucking reason. Even the backwards retards from GW use it

>>51945107
>he doesn't link tusk da deamon killa

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Ha ha! Gwneric army lists! (Without ipgrades since those are free anyway)

>>51945773
It'll work, but personally I feel you're a bit low on numbers. I'd probably drop the Dunecrawler, move the 10-man squad over to the regular Skitarii Maniple, and use the points to pad out the other two squads. Maybe cut some of the upgrades as well - the Pater Radium won't do you much good.

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Should list threads be brought back from the dead, considering the volume of lists here?

>>51946008
Not really. Spreading the user base is a bad idea

>>51946008
Is making and talking about lists not the point of the general? If they weren't here this thread would just be that dubstep faggot and other pasta no one cares about.

>>51944459
If you are trying to be competative, you should be running the Lions blade with min squads grav and a shit ton of free razorbacks.

Replace all the plasma guns with grav guns, and get rid of plasma pistol they are worthless. get rid of the ravenwing, the only bikes you should be takeing is the black knights. Also the Dark Talon is pretty meh, there are better flyers out there if you are running a CAD like a lot better, if your trying to go for ground clear, at that point take a fire raptor gunship.

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>>51946008
i think rules threads should be brought back from the dead

>>51945849
I could also take 3 flamers instead of 3 storm bolters I guess. I'm just trying to find a use for these cool SB models.

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I made a smash fucker list and friends
Nothing like a 2+/3++/2+++ and a 5+ it will not die running around with a librarian conclave.

>>51946080
For what the 20 waac fags and the 2 SoB players trying to abuse the Exorcist?

>>51946120
The superior In the Retribution squad or the superior on the BS in case you don't want to spend 10 points for a combi weapon.

>>51945107
Orks with ambitions are the most dangerous force in the galaxy.

>>51946080
>>51946008
So 40kg eneral becomes meme and shitty RP general?

How can I plausibly beat necrons with tyranids, that entire fucking army has 3+ saves and feel no pain.

>>51946175
Force saves. Like anyone else that does not have access to broken shit

>>51946175
Spam Flyrants with Brainleech Devourers.

Alternatively, don't play. Tyranids are in the same boat as Orks right now; most of the time it just isn't worth trying to make them work.

>>51945907
>for some odd fucking reason
As relatively "safe" as Paypal is, it's still an extremely consumer-unfriendly company with borderline unethical practices that, in some cases, go above the law to fuck people over.
Except despite that, there really isn't a viable alternative because that sort of system isn't easy to build. It literally takes a giant like Amazon to create their own personal option.

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>>51946132
Thinking about models for this.
Just need 2x Battle Sisters Squad upgrade, Sororitas command squad, and Seraphims, and some special weapons.

>>51946008
Let's just make a Discord and have a List room.

>>51946247
Might be my Latino background but I go with 4 different steps in order to put money inside PayPal.

My account to a second account that then transfer money to a company that transfer money to PayPal. Just to minimise the possibility of getting rob by the people im buying from.

I don't trust corporation or the government. Well I trust corporation a bit more since I know they want money. With the government no fucking idea

>>51946269
Kill yourself

Can we talk for a second how Orks are in an unplayable state at this point ?

Orks have been struggling for ages because they basically are given shitty stats for their point cost on top of self-defeating rng based mechanics. The last time they were "good" was back in 5th edition when you could abuse the wound allocation rule with your biker nob star and eventhen it felt like cheesing your way to victory.

Now since the last codex is out Orks are even weaker because of their low moral and low surviviability combine to a total lack of firepower.

Their are units that Orks can straight up not deal with without throwing their entire army at it like Imperial Knights or Custodes just because they lack of reliable High Strenght, low AP weaponry.

But that's not all. In top of their natural weaknesses that allready make them one of the worst armies in the entire game, Orks didn't get the special "decurion" treatment that most other armies got. Meaning they can't profit from alternate detachment pattern free bonii because they simply don't have one. The worst part being that even their formations suck major ass.

And the icing on the cake : Their FW rules, while fluffy and thematic like they allways are, are pretty mediocre at best, so no saving grace from there either.

So yhea, it's been a year since I didn't play my Orks at my LGS because getting utterly crushed by shitty lists that aren't even close to tournament level isn't a fun experience on the long run. I really hope we'll get a "beast arise" supplement or something like that sometimes because right now, SoB are 10 times better than Orks, no, Vanilla Deldars are 10 times better than Orks. And that's saying a whole lot.

>>51946265
Why do you insiste on wasting points in useless upgrades?

There is no reason to have that banner. Even at higher point is questionable at best.

>>51946316
>Can we talk for a second how Orks are in an unplayable state at this point ?
we talk about it every thread, this is not something new, orks have been bad for a while

>>51946322
Basically: I want to use the model that comes in the command squad to make it look like a command squad instead of a dominion squad with different weapons and worse AoF

>>51946316
>Orks didn't get the special "decurion" treatment that most other armies got

They actually did get one in one of the supplements. It just sucks.

>>51946337
Just use the model no need to pay the extra upgrade you egg.

>>51946340
You mean the green tide thing ? I didn't even count it as the bonus is so un-impactfull that you can play an entire game without it mattering once.

>>51946391
I really, really want to see someone field a green tide

>>51946417
I did face one. 300+ Orks.

Sadly for him I decided to run 6 Penitent Engines.

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I'm about to place an order for my first Warhammer 40k duders.

I don't know whether to start an Imperial Asstro Militititiiaruom Army army or a CSM army

Please help

>>51946434
Play Guard or SoB the only manly armies left in 40k

>>51946427
I choose to believe that 3 penitent engines is enough

>>51946434
guard are cool

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Let me pitch this idea to you. It's a bit off beat but I like it.

What if we take Magnus, have him shirtless, and for the remaining armor we make it look like wood (or possibly white and red), paint his feathers from the wings golden brown like a thunderbird, maybe add some feathers to his laid back hair, paint it white like a headdress, give him brown skin with red, black, and white markings like "Red Harvest" from magnificent seven or some other thing, and so generally have a Magnus the "Red" with a native american theme.

I think there are enough overlapping details to do it. Thoughts?

Pic semi related. The line of off beat alternative scheme I'd compare it to.

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bunch of slack jawed faggots around here, this stuff'll make you a goddamn sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me.

>>51946316
>>51946391
>orkfags in charge of the rules

>>51946441
Nop even Orks can bring down 2-4 before they reach Melee.

They are walking open top 11/11/10 that don't have fleet. So their running sucks ass. If you are lucky or your opponent is retarded you can make it on turn two. Most of the time they only reach Melee in turn 4 with at least half of them dead or Broken.

6 is the minimum for them to work

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badass

>>51946498
I wish even one of the multitude of captain models they've put out recently had those ruffled gold sections.

I love that shit.

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>>51946543
>square base

>>51946552
You never saw 2nd edition/RT before?

>>51946552
>Missing the no base Ork dread

Square bases best bases.

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>>51946552

>>51946552
large circle bases didn't exist outside of adeptus titanicus

I remember ordering a few to rebase my dreadnoughts because I thought the squares/no base walkers looked silly.

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So I'll be running pic-related as a normal Hereticus Inquisitor with a Condemnor Boltgun/Psyocculum.
I'll be attaching her to a Sororitas command squad with more Condemnor Boltguns and Flamer secondary weapons, all inside an Immolator. Is this a good concept, or is it too expensive just to slap psykers?

>>51946572
Too expensive. Unless your meta has retarded players that leave their psykers vulnerable to that kind of build.

>>51946572
condemnor boltguns aren't really worth it, unless you're trying to fuck with MC psykers in a gimmicky way

like, you can just load up on combi-meltas and melta guns and turn him into a smoking crater instead

>>51944404


Doing God's work, lot of fat fucks like their heavy metal

>>51944949
Then give him a boost vs Guardsmen / AM

>Like how Eldar get Hatred vs Slaanesh
>Or Farsight gets PE: Orks
>Or how Daemons get Hatred vs their rival god

>>51946572
Jesus Christ that face is a potato
>>51946576
Who expects anyone to bring condemnor boltguns though?

>>51944404
I love you

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>>51946299
I know PayPal isn't a good company, but they're safer than just throwing out my credit card info. I would happily use another company if they were as easy and safe to use, but that really isn't an option.

Plus PayPal in general isn't terrible for the consumer base, it's worse for the sellers.

>>51946593
Depends on the local meta. For example mine is just Tau, Orks, Necrons, marines and Eldar.
Beside grey knights no one has psykers.

Wasting points in anti psykers depends a lot on your meta.

It is easier just to run Acolytes squads of 2 models plus a Psyker behind your tanks and drop random Prescience or shriek.

16 points if I recall for that.

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>>51946593
>Jesus Christ that face is a potato
That is what conversions are for, to get rid of GW's awful sculpting. Not sure why they can't seem to make non-garbage tier faces for women and non-marines.

>>51946618
Those head look bigger than normal GW heads.

Is GayFox smaller than a normal SoB model or what?

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>>51946644
A tad smaller, yeah.

It's not the best, but it's 1000x better than the default.

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I posted this in the last thread, got no responses. R8 (It's supposed to have a deimos vindicator, aren't any in the list builder)

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So they just don't sell craters anymore? Do I have to make my own?

>>51946576
>>51946579
Its a decent way to take down an Impossible Robed Lord of Change / Screamerstar (outdated I know) / 2++ Daemon
>Perils ignore Invulnerable Saves and each fail runs the risk of failing a Ld9 or poofing

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>>51946715

Or buy third party

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>>51946438
>>51946445
I didn't buy any tools or paints or anything because I'm still retarded on that front and I don't know what color to make them yet.

>>51946698
Post it in written format. Easier to read and critique, especially when the picture isn't even the full list.

Hi all. I'm coming back to the game after a long break and dusting off my Tyranids. Funnily enough, all my friends who are getting into it as well have mysteriously choosing to create tau gunlines rather than want to do anything else. Nothing to do with the fact I have an army of close combat monsters and the rumours Tau are top of the range, ha.

Still, can any Tyranid player please give me advice on how to deal with gunlines? I'm currently musing over things like...

A flyrant with brainleech devourers, to swoop in, shred their troops then beat itself stupid off any tanks.

A Tyrranocyte pod to drop in the middle of them. Have it shoot up troops, then unleash say, a carnifex to charge into tanks and smash them.

A Lictor to appear wherever I want, then have it use it's ability to make the Mawloc pop up wherever I want. Mawloc will do it's damage, twice if needed, then dig back into the ground, to pop up again elsewhere, rather than pop up and start chasing people...or would I be better with a Trygon that will pop up, do no damage, but then chase folk around?

>>51946759
Orange creamsickle always looked good on guard to me. Mostly bleached bone or your choice of off-white, some pale orange, and pale or dark grey. Maybe some blue accent colors if that floats your boat

>>51946698
looks decent.

Lots of powerful guns and lots of bodies.

>>51946567


jesus fuck, how the old nids were fucking ugly

Do somebody have White Dwarf collection mediafire link, please ?

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>>51946567
The one true carnifex.

>>51944515
CELESTINE IS PURE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>51946759
hey, everyone starts somewhere

welcome to the guard

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>>51946779

>>51946759
Don't paint them as generic cadians.

I did that and tried to make up for their lack of personality with lots of allies but my army just ended up a mess.

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>>51946866
>celestine comes back
>fags immediately waifu her hardcore
>she's madly in love with the spiritual liege
hee hee

you know the germinae are right there with her too

>tfw you find that army that just clicks with your playstyle, even though they're objectively bad

I've discovered Grey Knights is the perfect army for me, even though I'm so far 2-12 with them. I know they're a low-tier army, but I love the models and the fluff and what's supposed to be the gameplay.

>>51946498
Predator is GOAT

>>51946862
In contemporary terms that would be 5 or 6 wounds rather than 10, because shit in 2nd edition had a fuckload of wounds. Because M isn't a stat anymore it would be normal movement with Fleet, that save would be a 2+ armor save.

The bio-plasma attack would be AP2 and may be either a regular blast (1.5") or a large blast (3").

>>51946924
I thought Dreadnoughts can't dream.

>>51944404
what the fuck is this autism?

>>51946862
>carnifex used to be extremely fast AND as durable as a terminator
How the mighty have fallen.

>>51946937
This is how I feel after having just discovered Dark Eldar


Goddamn they are fun. I love fast gunships with massed firing, but they melt at a mean glance. Still their weapons more than make up for the lose with how much grief they cause

>>51947012
They were a 10 wound terminator with a plasma cannon.

>>51947001
Someone made this dipshit copypasta like a month ago and tries to post it in every thread. Bait isn't even fresh anymore.

>>51946937

Whats your typical armylist like?

>>51946978
dreadnoughts can do whatever the fuck they want to

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>>51947054

I know it's garbage. Even using a Strike Squad at all gives that away.

>>51946978
One of his arms is an assault cannon and the other is a power fist. Are you going to tell him he can't dream?

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Is there any alternatives to Mournfang brown I can use? for instance, my own actual shit

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>>51947263
I use this in place of mournfang brown for bases.

Only for bases though, it's awful paint.

>>51946759
You can't actually use pask without a 2nd Russ.

>>51947365
You dont even need to buy the Pask model, just say he's inside the tank.

>>51947378
Yeah if the 10 bucks is out of your budget maybe 40k isn't for you.
It's a pretty decent looking model as a bonus.

>>51947404
>Wasteful with my money and proud!
In that case I have a bridge to sell to you.

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Did all primarchs other than Magnus, have psyker abilities?

>>51947579
Yeah, all of them had the potential, and Lorgar, Sanguinius and Corax just a little bit could use them too.

But still Magnus was the most powerful psycker amongst them by bast difference.

>>51947579

All of them, either subtly and quite possibly passively or as directed powers.

>>51947600
Still fuck up hard.

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So why are all of GW's products so expensive anyway?I don't imagine that plastic minis, even of this quality, should be this expensive to produce - Even things like Blood Bowl. I've bought board games almost the same or greater level of detail that costed far less.

>>51944404
Alright edge lord fag you were warned. You are now officially the gayest person on /tg/.

>>51947628
It's been proven that their markup is basically triple. Things that cost $120 could be sold for $40 and are created at a total under $10.

Gw is just greedy and smart with how they sell stuff.

>>51947012
It hasn't got shit on the Lictor, which has been nerfed so badly there's no plausible way for it to actually do its intended job as a character assasin since being T4 with a 5+ non-invulnerable save it can't survive a round of combat against any unit, can't issue challenges and is worse at combat than most things you'd want to target.

>>51947628
>I've bought board games almost the same or greater level of detail that costed far less.

Sounds like a big ass lie. Boardgames aren't cheap either.

>>51944731
>implying gender roles aren't biological in nature
Have fun at the orphanage fag

>>51947661
Thier greed will result in proper competition, piracy and third parties

Oh wait it is happening already.

You can have abusive pricing, as long those pricing seem fair to the consumer.

>>51947615
Yeah that's obvious lol

His fuck up was proportional to his powers

>>51947690
GW price fairness disappeared years ago.

I started playing when I was 10 and I'm 24 now; I took a small break when GW was just pumping up costs every few months. I only came back for Custodes and massively fleshed out pieces I thought I'd never see.

I remember when the plastic Land Raider that we currently have was $40.

Let that sink in.

>>51944660
No, because eldar exist

>>51947690
Their pricing resulted in and was also a response to years of middling sales figures. And pricing of existing box sets is essentially fixed due to a promise to shareholders not to lower their prices, even though the huge markup actually hurts profits.

However at this point GW executives have clearly realized that this is a mistake, which is why boxed sets of multiple units together at a dramatically lower cost to the individual units is a thing. It sidesteps the promise not to lower prices, while lowering prices.

>>51944743
Even if Zagstruk had more than a Choppa, he's S5, & his Vulcha's Klawz (PKs are S*2) don't make his HoW S10.

Cruddace is such a faggot he'll ignore math to fuck over a faction.

>>51947743
>>51947720
Oh I know. Remember when you could get 20 Guardsmen in a box for like $35?

Now you get the same models but 10 for like $40.

Part of the reason why fantasy die was due to that.
Lower point cost, lower model count per box, higher cost.

And I'm seeing the same trend in 40k

I really hope someone says fuck you shareholder if you want money this is how we are doing it.

You can't keep this high as balls pricess for so long before others exploit your retardation

Is Arch Warhammer's lore videos /tg/ approved? I want to make sure the almost hour-long videos I'm watching aren't feeding me bullshit.

>>51947840
>Oh I know. Remember when you could get 20 Guardsmen in a box for like $35?
>Now you get the same models but 10 for like $29
ftfy
The prices are a but over inflation, but they did lower the cost when they halved the models

>>51947628
>I've bought board games almost the same or greater level of detail that costed far less.
no you haven't

GWs products aren't particularly expensive. The cost comes from having to build large armies.

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>>51947901
>Greetings and salutations

I don't watch his videos because the way he talks is cringy as fuck.

>>51947840
There isn't really a good response for GW.

They can try and address player annoyance at high model counts and high prices by decreasing model count, but then they're shooting themselves in the foot. But they can't just lower prices because (((shareholders))).

All they can do is to try and claw back the perception of value for money by selling bundled models and boxed games at lower prices and hope the shareholders don't jew the company to death. Which seems to actually be working.

>>51947849

I do like this old model of Scout Speeder.

>>51947901
Yes and no, also never watch them just have it as background

>>51947906
Point taken. Their prices are bloated as fuck

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trying to start an army, is this viable in non-tournament settings?

i took a few options just for fun reasons, e.g. typhus (i like his model very much). i suppose my main weak point is lack of rhinos?

>>51947813
If you toes grip strength the same and your hand?