Do you prefer helms with or without a visor?

>>51938312
>>51938312
Is that guy wearing a cast iron fedora? Fucking kek

>in this moment I am euphoric, not because of some phony Pope's blessing, but because I am enlightened by the Renaissance

With.

Closed face helmets good

>>51938312
Depends on the armor I'm wearing and which one is more aesthetically pleasing

>>51938312
With.

Visorless helmets are scum. I want to be an intimidating masked warrior, not some fucking doofus with a pot on his head.

Without, I like being able to see facial expressions

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>>51938312
Having used both, one without.

But that one without better have a brim.

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>>51938312
I hate helmets yet I like masks.
Pic related.

>>51938312
Depends on whether I can find a distinctive helm or faceplate that fits the character or displays something about them. If not, they go without.

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>>51938312
No

>>51938312
I like cool visors

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>>51938398
>>51938600
>>51940157


These are the faggots who have never worn one and doesn't know how badly they restrict their field of vision.

>intimidating masked warrior

The enemy can still hear you wheeze and ask when you get a break from the battle in your shrill, nasally voice.

>>51938794

This is an edgy faggot

>>51938814

This is a faggot who drones on and on and bores the whole group with his autism.

Come at me knaves.

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Do like em with nice visors

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Best of both worlds

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It depends on the...no, not the setting. What I'm in the mood for, what sort of character I'm going for. An open-faced helmet gives a different look and feeling than a visored one, and may suggest a different time period. In general I used visored or enclosed helmets only for when I'm making a character that is supposed to be tanky or has reason to hide their face.

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Also, these are surprisingly sexy.

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>>51940036

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Nose guard master race.

>>51941417
Wipe this meme helmet from the face of the earth.

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>>51938312
I like a nice visored sallet helm personally

speaking purely from a drawfag perspective:
closed can be cool, but it limits how personable the character can be, whereas an open helmet allows for a greater variety of expressions.

they both have their place, though. visored helmets are really cool for stoic characters and such.

>>51938366
You sure are stupid.

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>>51938312
Well historically visored helms where for both protection and intimidation.
You would be better protected from arrows and the sight of an expressionless undying hulk of metal charging at you was known to cause men to panic.
While non visored helms where better for vision and breathing, men fighting in a full visored helm can sometimes panic and go into a frenzy themselves from breathing their own carbon dioxide in battles.
>>51943016
Continuing from what he said even though I'm not an artist, drawing a visored soldier will make him scarier and less sympathetic while a man with an open helm will look more human and and so less scary, which is better for a heroic type of charecter.

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>>51938366
>16-17th century helmet made iconic by conquistadors
>lel fedora
Open a history book for once in your fucking life.

>>51938366
End yourself.

Although I did laugh *tips helmet rim*

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>>51943016
>>51943304
I personally think they're also fun for the gentle giant type - guy's all big and scary in his armor, but he's being friendly to kids or animals or something. Could also be very expressive with his posture or gestures.

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CAN'T SEE SHIT CAP'N

>no "blind samurai"-type characters that are knights that just can't see shit through their visor

Shit, new idea for a PC.

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>>51938312
without a visor but with a face protection

>>51944514
Still seems like it would hard to breathe in. Especially once you're in the middle of battle.

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>>51944685
that's why you can open it down

>>51943902
Same with #2 here. Also seems like it would be more harmful than useful.

>>51941405
Have fun being stabbed in the face I guess?

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>>51941405
You. I like you.

>>51944958
If you're letting someone stab you in the face, you're doing something wrong. Their weapon should be nowhere near your face, and by the time they get close enough to grapple with you they could easily slot it through your visor or under your gorget regardless. The reason most morions have an upwards-curving brim is because they're designed to catch sword blows at the head a few inches away from the face and deflect them away.

Seventeenth century reenactor who owns three morions here. I'd post pics but they're in lockup. Have a potato-quality photo of my breastplate instead.

>>51944737
Then it is a visor

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>>51945016
>best counter argument against visorless helms

>>51945043
it's a falling buffe. Visors are part of the helmet, it's a separate piece attached to the gorget

>>51945090
It's easy. Don't look up at the hail of arrows falling on you and you should probably be fine.

>>51945120
Battles are hectic, if you do get shot in the face it's because you where busy doing something else like fighting for example. Although an arrow has a low chance of hitting you in the face to begin with, there is still a chance.
This is why most 17th century helmets removed visors and used a nose guard when firearms where replacing bows and crossbows and helmets functioned more for melee combat.

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>>51941405
>>51941405
He didn't ask which we wanted to wear, he asked which we prefer. I prefer with visors because I find it more aesthetically pleasing. It doesn't look like a person anymore, it's a walking, metal weapon of war.

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>>51945090
>Best counter argument against visorless helms
You look like a fucking OG

>>51938366
>in this moment I am retarded, not because of some phony dubs blessing, but because I am enlightened by 4chan.

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>>51938312
Depends what kind of character I'm playing.

For adventurous/heroic characters without visor, for stoic/knightly characters with visor.

>>51944089
It makes sense considering what they were actually used for.

>>51941498
Based valsgarde

>>51945090

You mean like the ones they're all wearing?

>>51945205
>arrows firing into a melee

Are you fighting one army and then another shows up and attacks you both or something? Nose guards are legit, but you're fucking stupid.

>>51945342

You know what else makes you look like a fucking OG? Being a masculine, intimidating guy instead of a pasty, moon-faced manchild.