Modern Masters Spoilers thread

>>51938189
I took the bait and bought some Misty Rainforests already. I'll hold off the Tarns until they hit a more reasonable price.

Funnily enough, I'm actually getting a little excited for Legacy now that the enemy fetches are going down. I'll just play infect and shock myself until I'm a good boy, enough to buy the duals.

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Wew.

>>51938189
guilgates- slap in the face
trilands at uncommon- spit into mouth and twist of the nipples
fetchlands at rare- doing the bare minimum

>>51938606
Explain further

>>51938627
He doesnt like the set so far

>>51938471
Wow, that's some shit I haven't seen yet. Would probably be great in Doran. What a shame it's in the wrong colours.

What were some great uncommon prints though? Kitchen Finks?

>>51938639
you read it backwards dummy

>>51938189
>Guildgates

At least give us the lifelands or something Jesus

>>51938627
He wanted Shocks at Common, Fetches at Uncommon, and Cavern of Souls at Rare.

>>51938665
Maybe the guy wants to empty his hand and is too cool to play One with Nothing

>>51938673
They're probably going to put something like Gatecreeper Vine in so they'll be relevant for draft. We can only hope they're not shitty enough to stuff Maze's End in though.

>>51938189
you're forgetting
>price whining
>maro bashing
and the most important of all
>magic is deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddddddddddddd

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>>51938471

reprint all but confirmed!

>>51938683
That's still absurd. Cavern should be a common and fetches and shocks should be in the basic land slot.

>>51938606
>>51938627
I don't know why he's raging at Guildgates when the lifelands from EMA proved that common level taplands will make a Masters set an extremely sweet Limited environment. The tri-lands are a nice addition too.

I'm kinda of excited, I hope the prices don't rise so high that drafting this set isn't out of the question.

I also hope the Commons and Uncommons don't suck.

Will it be worth it as an Australia (its going to be minimum $400 AUD a box) to pick up a box for trading if im trying to get a set of B/G fetch lands and some goblin guides.

So MM3 is gonna basically be like cracking a box of Zendikar for $300 cheaper with a higher chance at profit?

>>51938758
Always buy singles unless you want to draft with some friends. This is always the golden rule. Let other people crack the packs for you and get you the cards you need.

>>51938694
i mean you could play it with an eldrazi processor but thats an awful lot of mana at 4cmc plus a vial activation or god forbid actually paying 3 mana for a strangler or whatever.

>>51938627
>>51938683
>crack your $10 pack
>get 40cent uncommons and 10cent commons
seems good
>>51938755
>limited
fuck off

>>51938758
only if you're trading the sealed box

>>51938758
Can't you just go to your neighboring SEA countries to buy boxes at non ripoff prices?

>>51938769
>$300 cheaper

Were Zendikar boxes $500 the first day of spoilers? No.

Is MM3 going to be $250+ per box upon release? Yes.

Now go be stupid somewhere else.

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>>51938189
>The mad lads actually reprinted it

>>51938711
Maze's End at rare. I guarantee it

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-preview/took-us-long-enough-2017-02-27

Anyone else find this article pretty insulting. Treating us like peasants telling us they almost gave us more of something but we are lucky to get it at all. Seriously why couldn't Damnation been in M15. Black Devotion was not that terrifying and Damnation did not fit that decks game plan at all.

Fuck you wizards. Fuck you.

I'm still going to get a copy or two. When do the prices for the chase reprints hit their lowest?

Now I want a dbz plane. Kahns doesn't count.

>>51939033
I dunno, it seems reasonable, and I'm glad they had the decency to kick Supreme Verdict out for Damnation despite touting Masters as a "Limited-first" set.

>>51939033
depends if they'll do another eternal master

>>51939033
Prices are already dropping should I buy early or wait?

>>51939033
>Seriously why couldn't Damnation been in M15.

Then it would be in Frontier, anon.

>>51939084
For something like Damnation, I think you should wait. Fetches are a little dicier because they always see play but Damnation is almost entirely a supply issue, it's only used in BGx midrange as a 1- or 2-of. Most of the time I think it's more in demand in Cube and Commander?

>>51939125
commander players are gonna jump on this printing though

>>51938972
I'm talking about current prices you massive retard.

>>51939084
I'm watching the fetch prices on tcgplayer, they went down and now people are snatching up the lowest price every 10min or so

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>>51938972
>tfw preordered a box at $160

>>51939033
I'm of the opinion that nobody should be giving this product or any media associated with it any time of their day. I know that's hypocritical given I'm in this thread.

But the point is that this product should be rotting on the shelves. In an ideal world everyone wouldn't be stupid enough to buy this product.

>>51939125

Pretty much all Damnation demand is from EDH, and that format keeps growing. Prices will go back to where they were fairly rapidly.

>>51939258
I'm inclined to agree with you because I want to see a more consumer friendly reprint set bring back core sets but do them origins style so they don't suck but we get good reprints at high frequency in timing and stock

>>51939258
I actually genuinely want to buy it to draft, but because it's so duplicitously masquerading as a "money set", plus the hype wagoning and the limited print run driving prices up from MSRP make it a turn off. So to my own equally hypocritical end, I agree with you, it should be rotting on the shelves and anyone buying it for the money cards is the sort of idiot encouraging this toxic business practice.

>>51939033
Assuming it doesn't see a new reprint following, don't wait any longer than September to buy one, probably August. 6 months is the shelf life of a price drop.

>>51939366
The thing is, reprinting the fetches benefits speculators and big stores more than the players. If I were one of those, I would get all the sealed MM3 product I could, and I would sit on it. If a box of Zendikar is $500 today just based on fetches, MM3 is bound to be more than that, being a limited print run on top of it.

>>51939308
Masters sets could very easily be the equivalent of Core sets with high power that wouldn't fuck with Standard. You get your four Standard products a year and Masters will fill the hole for non-Standard demand.

Except it doesn't do anything - it doesn't add to Standard (not that it should) nor does it satisfy the people who want to play formats outside of Standard. Because they don't print enough and tack a huge price tag on it.

Every time a Masters product comes out, I just avoid my store (starting now) and for about a month after. I just don't do any Magic where I have to talk to people I may emotionally care about. Because I don't want to go to the store and have to suppress the feelings I feel for people buying and talking about this shit - because I think they're stupid. I want to tell them that what they're buying is stupid. It's like they're drinking at restaurants, it's like they're buying a gas guzzler, it's like they're buying jewelery.

The first MM set I just told everyone this was a bad idea to buy it. Everyone just said, "oh they're just starting out they don't want to shock the market" and I was like, "isn't the whole point of this shit to fix the market?" You can't fix the market without fucking with it. The moment the chinaman fakes showed up I was like, "you know there's a problem when the Chinese think it's economical to produce high-quality counterfeits". $50 for 50 fake cards is still kinda expensive, but you get like $1000+ in value. Play Legacy/Vintage for $200 was a sweet deal for me; that's LESS than a box of MM. I support my store but not by giving Wizards any money.

>>51938714
not even one hour and the infestation have begun.

>>51939556
This was a wonderful post thank you. But what are your thoughts on buying singles from your lgs to take advantage of lower prices. I really want that damnation. I've wanted one since I started playing 6 years ago but could never bring myself to drop $60 on some cardboard.

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>>51939663
One of these is $60. The others are $2. There is your answer.

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>mfw people argue that the Ron Spencer art is better than the Kev Walker art for Damnation

I love Spencer but that art just can't compare

>>51939663
One of the chinaman packs has Damnation in it. Just spend your $50 and you'll get a Damnation and ~50 other cards. Or if you don't want to spend $50 then spend $2+$10 shipping.

There is zero reason for you to trade/buy any card without the hologram on it.

>>51939744
mtg house looks very spot on for me. to sell on ebay

>>51939744
Does the bend test work on these fuckers?

>>51939216
hope you don't get your order canceled on you.

>>51939807
Obviously, fakes always pass bend test.

>>51939836
I love how this is allowed.
>Implying they wouldn't

>>51939807
Who gives a fuck. Are you bend testing your shit regularly in front of people? If you're scamming people then let the buyer beware. Everyone here wants the confidence of cards to be driven into the ground so they can get shit for cheap; and if the game dies, well that's not on us, that's on Wizards for not managing their game.

Sleeve it, play it. Feels great. Nobody can tell across the table.

>>51939781

I have been playing with BL cards for a while now. I have gotten deck checked a few times. Not a problem. They are really hard to spot, unless you know what you are looking for.

>>51938683
considering all those cost the same to print and would make the product fly off the shelves it woould not be a bad move by wizards
if they weren't cucked so hard by SCG and other second market manipulators, that is

>>51939216
cancelled :)

>>51939865
>Being such a broke faggot you can't even afford to do what you enjoy.
Must suck being a nigger.

>>51939988
As opposed to being WotC's negro. How's life in the plantation treating you, Kunta?

>>51939988
not him, but now that i have a manaless frigorid deck and a robots deck i feel iffy about taking them anywhere but my friends' homes for fear of losing a card or something
one of my buddies made the remark i am just stupid and should probably learn to take care of my things unless I end up losing my smartphone or my wallet, but that is not really comparable to losing a card out 60 (or one card out of 100)
plus, it's a piece of cardboard that's not currency
tl;dr i can afford the game and even i think the prices for things like goyf and confidant are retarded; wotc should mass print some tourney level shit to lower prices

>>51939988
playing over $200 every time you want a set of fetch lands or dropping the same on a single playset of core cards for off meta decks (Goblin guide, Glimpse the thinkable, damnation etc) is pretty ridiculous.

>>51939988
I don't know why weak ad hominem shit like calling people poor, a virgin, or unironically a faggot still exists, especially on the Internet.

Is that seriously the best you got?

>>51939744
wheres a good place to order proxies from? I want to make some more decks but fuck paying for the fetch lands and snapcasters.

>>51940071
What's 200 dollars? Pro Tip: if you can't afford an expensive hobby then stop having a hobby then get a job you worthless faggot.

>>51940078
It's not even an insult, the fact of the matter is that he is just poor, only poor people feel insulted when you point that out.

>>51939988
>anonymously lashing out at people on the internet

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>>51939865
>being this poor

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New art for Molten Rain. Actual card will be up tomorrow on some WotC's shill site tomorrow, and it's upshifted to uncommon. Shitty reveal method too.

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Also, Terminate shifted to uncommon. This kills the Sun Titan.

>>51940140
It's not lashing out, it's just pity and disdain.

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>>51940078
I do find it amazing when players of a game take the side of the profit driven business and promote card inflation as it only hurts them, the players and the game by making it less accessible generally. It's pretty egotistical and I can only assume these people need desperately to justify the thousands of dollars they've put into this game, otherwise they're just children surrounded by cardboard most of which they can't sell.

>Uncommons off to a disgusting shitty start
Nice

>>51940230
>Regular ass kill spells now at Uncommon levels

Whatever will Wizards think of next to fuck our fun over?

>>51940252
>Implying I want to play against children.
You can go play at the kitchen table for virtually nothing. Go do it.

>>51940269
>Everyone hates playing against land and creature destruction, we'll put it in for the degenerates but make it less accessible
R&D, probably

>>51939106
Frontier doesn't exist, Post-Modern is BFZ onwards.

>>51939125
Commander is the second heaviest format when it comes to price inertia.
Eidolon of the Great Revel is the most powerful card in Burn, the most popular cheap deck in both Modern and Legacy, but it's still just $15 tops. Doubling Season is a 1x in some Commander decks and has actually been reprinted a couple times, goes for $60+.

>>51939938
They don't care. They know that all the product will move instantly so why bother sweetening the deal?

How many more good rares do people honestly think will be released

>>51940291
>tfw I'm selling all my Legacy staples and replacing them with Chinaman fakes
fuck WotC, I already have the cards but I'm doing this to spite them. I may have paid peanuts for this stuff compared to what it's worth now but they've left inflation get way too far out of control.
if it triggers mongoloids on the internet who invest in a children's card game like it's the stock market then I just feel all the better for it.

>>51940291
You're the kind of retard that has caused prize support to sink and why so many pros have gone into Heartstone instead.

More people means more prize money and a strictly higher level of competition. Playing three rounds against the same 7 faggots every week is a waste of time.

>>51940655
>Hearthstone
I'm just going to go to poker after MTG desu senpai

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I'm actually liking the expanded arts for the guild gates. Yeah they're subpar lands but they're fucking commons and I run a few in edh decks so I like these inclusions.

>>51940655
Works for Melee

>>51940820
>they're fucking commons
In a $10/pack set. I don't want all the value tied up in rares/mythics.

>>51940655
Pros go into hearthstone cause there's actually money in streaming it. Maybe if MTGO wasn't a fucking joke then more people would watch it on Twitch.
>Implying it's not difficult to compete with a mobile game for brain dead retard childrens in the first place.
>Implying to go play hearth you don't have to admit to being a money hungry faggot with no dignity

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>>51940892
Fair enough but wouldn't it be better to just buy the singles?

I dunno, the 10 dollar price tag and limited run on these sets seem like a fucking scam and don't really affect the value of the cards in the long term I feel.

I'm also a poorfag that doesn't play modern and just want to know the commons and uncommons

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Command cycle reprint confirmed

>>51940976
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA LMAO JUST WHEN PEOPLE WERE STARTING THE COCKSUCKING HERE COMES THE DOLLAR RARES WOTC COCKSUCKERS BTFO ETERNALLY

>>51940976
Cryptic also?

>>51940976
>cycle
Yeah nah, I'll believe that when I see it.

>>51940892
Tell me which $1+ commons wizards should put in these packs.

>>51941071
No clue but if they print everything but profane and incendiary then I will be a jolly man

>>51941128
Anything but horrible draft fodder.

>>51940879
Melee players are somehow bigger junkies than MTG players.

>>51940976
Oh good now I have four chances to make $0.50 and one chance to make the price of the pack back.

>>51941295
Just git gud

>>51941295
The white command is 10 doll hairs, but probably less after this

>>51941398
That's the thing every reprint will drop the prices, at least while packs are still being cracked. Even if Wizards does print good cards in here, people will complain when cards formerly worth the price of the pack get cheap.

>>51941444
Pro Tip: Wizards will never make a set with a higher EV than the box is worth

>>51941128
>Simian Spirit-Guide
>Manamorphose
>Ancient Stirrings
>Lava Spike
>Rancor
>Utopia Sprawl
>Chromatic Star
>Lightning Bolt
>Wall of Roots
>Spell Pierce
>Serum Visions
>Nettle Sentinel
>Urza's Mine
>Urza's Powe Plant
>Urza's Tower
>Street Wraith
>Essense Warden
>Terminate
>Steel of the Godhead
>Qasali Pridemage
>Wild Nacatl
>Soul's Attendant
>Sinew Sliver
>Expedition Map
>Sleigh of Hand
>Rift Bolt
>Relic of Progenitus
>Slippery Bogle
>Hyena Umbra
>Desperate Ritual
>Condescend
>Mwonvuli Acid-Moss
>Avoid Fate
>Muddle the Mixture
>Shadowborn Apostle
>Viscera Seer
>Cranial Plating
There's actually a lot of Modern-legal commons over $1.

>>51941484
false

>>51941484
KTK EV was over $140 for months until overprinting finally crashed the fetchlands and everything else went sub $5.

>>51941484
If they did one of two things would happen
>They print a shitload of packs, the price of the cards crash, and the EV drops
>They print a limited amount and is gets scalped to hell

>>51941589
>>Shadowborn Apostle
Really? Why?

>>51941589
We really need some Urza Land reprints.

>>51941667
YOU need a bunch in the deck like relentless rats

set symbol is pretty ugly but i'm hype for 3+ colour drafts

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>>51938833
>not understanding that limited is the only reason to open packs and the primary way that cards make it to the secondary market

I bet you buy boxes in hopes that you open net value

>>51942319
>the primary way that cards make it to the secondary market
you don't really believe that do you? The primary way is stores opening hundreds of boxes themselves

>>51942365
That's a good point, I guess what I meant is that players opening packs just for the sake of opening packs won't put enough cards into the economy to do shit to the price

Wizards must balance a good limited format with these staples, not just do goodstuff.set

>>51942319

>implying shop owners and singles-sellers open fewer boosters than players who are drafting

holy shit

>people dick sucking wotc for doing something they should have done about a decade ago
>now they are showing Domri Cuck and "le 4th printing" command

WOW ITS LIKE THEY SHOW THE ONLY GOOD THINGS FIRST AGAIN

>>51941672
They won't be in. Multicolor sheninigans is the name of the game. A card like Craterhoof Behemoth however.. is pretty much garantueed at this point when looking at the draft archetypes.

Each card of each rarity value has an equal chance of appearing in a booster, correct? Like, you are as likely to get a Scalding Tarn as you are a Primal Command?

>>51942575
Totally dude just like you are completely just as likely to get a Fatal Push as you are like a fucking Salvage Scuttler. Completely and 100% equal chances.

Not really though

>>51942575
No, the way sheets are printed some cards at each rarity will appear less often than others. It is often random which card within the rarity appears less often but don't be surprised if good cards show up less often.

This was proven with Fatal Push recently, which appeared less often on the sheet than the other uncommons. Unless the stores who open huge quantities of product just made that fact up to justify a day-1 price of $7.

>>51942575
Wizards is completely opaque on this issue and the community isn't well-informed enough to hold them accountable but people in the know assume there are sub-rarities of some cards

>>51942575
Due to the way their printing sheets work one card in the set will be printed less than others of that rarity by default. Usually this is a common card, but has been used as recently as Aether Revolt to artificially reduce the supply of a certai card, such as with fatal push.

At least that's what I've been told.

>>51942402
I'd argue the absolute necessity for 4x Gideon as a competitive Standard staple for all of it's stay in Standard sold more boosters of Battle for Zendikar than drafting, exploration hunting and the casual market together.

>>51942601
>>51942639
>>51942666
>>51942676
This shouldn't even be a problem. Ever. You can design a fucking set structure where this never has to be a problem.

That's like telling a graphic designer that the printer can only do prints (within good reason) in increments of 12" and they say, "no I can't design within that".

>>51942575
Magic print sheets are 11x11.
If all commons don't fit in common sheets, some will end in the uncommon sheet instead. If all uncommons don't fit in the uncommon sheet, they'll be in the rares sheet instead. And each rarity of sheets is printed less than the one before.
In a normal large edition it takes aprox 110 boosters to get a specific mythic, 75 boosters to get a specific rare, 22 boosters to get a specific uncommon and 14 boosters to get a specific common.

>>51942676
>>51942666

I opened two boxes of AR and got a whopping 4 whole fatal pushes

>>51943152
I opened two packs and got one :^)

>>51943152
yeah, its bullshit. i've pulled like 300 kaladesh/revolt packs by now and ive only pulled 289 servo tokens

>>51939836
>>51939953
>MURICA!
Joke aside, what kind of shitty LGS do that?

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Back again after EMA, it's Harmonize.

>>51943152
Isn't that normal? That sounds exactly average for any given uncommon.

>>51943152
>I spent $200 on the lottery and only won ~$50-$75

>>51939836
>>51939953
I got it from a little Mom and Pop FLGS. They're too nice to do something like that. They've never cancelled on anyone.

>>51940976
>pro: bullet points calm muh autism
>con: horrendous foiling will trigger it

>>51943523
thats a nice uncommon. now give me bolt, remand and path

>>51940641
Only the bare minimum required to raise EV to within a few sets of retail price. The rest will be less than dollar rare shit that nobody wants a reprint of.

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>>51944214
I can give you a Thragtusk for now, gotta check in the back for that other stuff.

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Also in case anyone seriously thought we were mythic free, lol

>>51940275
It's not like there's a need to lower its monetary cost by printing it at common or anything.
Terminate is a very good killspell so this rarity is entirely because of limited.

>>51943523
The dude in the art can't even believe how recently he's been reprinted.

>>51939865
If the game dies because of fakes or you get reported to the police for selling fakes it''s solely on you. If you are to poor for a hobby, search a new one - don't fraud yourself into it.

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>>51944315
Well, there are certainly worse rares.

Also, am I missing something or do we not have *any* chase mythics confirmed yet? I'm glad that a lot of the regular rares so far are pretty good, but geez.

>>51939773
The inverted wrath of god is too damn iconic. I hope I pull a foil, fuck snap babby I just want a foil damnation.

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Yeahhh Venser is in the set

>>51944928
I know snapcaster with be a mythic now, but I cant stop cumming.

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>>51944928
They have him the shit art though.

>>51945003
they are saving the best art for the good boys who eat their tendies and buy future sight.

>>51945037
I couldn't care less, honestly. I've played this game since before most of the people in this thread were probably born and as such already have the expensive cards with the good art.

>>51945066
They wanted to reprint stalker rapist venser thats their choice. Its up to you to buy it or not.

>>51945003
Yeah that is what I'm really disappointed about :(

>>51945083
But why would I buy a cards I already own with worse art than the cards I already own?

>>51945145
Dont then you fucking goof. Do you lack free will and need to go to a taiwaneese knitting enthusiast site to get your opinions?

>>51945168
>need to go to a taiwaneese knitting enthusiast site to get your opinions
Not him but yes. This is the only place that will tell you that this product is shit and you're a piece of shit for buying the sealed product or even the singles. I can't believe that on Reddit, essentially the #1 Magic Fanpage, or in real life anybody thinks this shit does not encompass the all the anti-consumer practices this company has engaged in.

Wizards has to be told that this product is garbage and they only way they'll listen is if nobody fucking buys it. Boycotting is a dirty fucking hippie tactic that is the worst way to do anything but unfortunately it's the only thing that works anymore.

Buy the chinaman fakes if you must have the cards but don't send a dime to Wizards. It's unfortunate for your store but they eat a ton of shit too.

I can't believe experienced players who have been playing for years think this shit is a good use of their money, even if they have money to burn. And it blows my mind to see newer players walk into the store to drop $10 on a lottery ticket.

This is the last place on the Internet where you'll even have half a chance of getting a straight answer, if you're smart enough to see who is a shill or can't form a coherent thought because they're posting from a phone or they're just children.

>>51945227
>all that shit
>just to say you dont want to support the game you play
Enjoy your chinamans anon, some people have disposable income and want to make sure mtg will continue having sets in the future instead of fizzling out like DBZ and FoW.

>>51945304
I'd sooner see Magic die than have it become what it is now, with a company that refuses to print the cards to make the game affordable and sustainable through player entry and an online client that has been broken for years.

I'd rather see it dead than flop around testing new FNM and competitive gimmicks every month because the company has no fucking clue what works or doesn't.

>>51945304
>Just because i can pay thousands for cardboard, that means i must, and everyone else must, instead of going for the most smart option economic wise
The most stupid argument ever

>>51945330
Keep doing what you're doing. You obviously understand the ramifications of your actions and are enjoying the game in your own way. Im not going to tell you to stop. You're no different than a pirate and as long as you're enjoying the game why should I care. The only thing you cannot do is invoke your will onto others, it just doesn't work on people willing to spend 400+ bucks on cardboard.

>>51945227
This sounds less about getting a straight answer and more about finding opinions that are similar to the ones you have already made and need to fill the void of being forever alone; your labeling of players who enjoy the game and support the company that make it as mouth-breathing sub-humans might contribute to that.

I've been playing since mirage and found /tg/ in 2008- I've learned quickly that every thread pertaining to new magic products is essentially the same: "magic is dead", "worst set since homelands", "X is my waifu". It's the same old cycle with brand new memes in a torrential, red-pilled, re-education of Wizards' scandalous business practices.

No one is forcing you to buy a bad product, especially if you already own a superior product based on your values; just accept the fact that this set does not cater to your desires this time.

>>51941672
We really don't

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>>51945382

Arrrr, you are a moron, matey.

>>51945168
No, I never asked for your oppinion. I was making fun of your apparent inability to read.

>>51945527
Then why did you go out and actively seek peoples opinion on the internet? If you're looking for an echo chamber you can always just use a diary.

>>51939744
>no card mire in the comparison

>>51945570
Cardmire=proxyhouse

>>51945597
>>51945570
I though that guy lost his printer or something?

>>51944315
oh shit, this combos so well with restoration angel

1. Play thragtusk
2. Flicker it with restoration angel
3. ????
4. Profit

>>51946084
Holy crap anon I think you might be onto something.

>>51939744
Is this supposed to be convincing?

so here is the question lads

i have 200 dollarie doos burning a hole in my pocket, should i buy a box of mm17?

>>51946199
No. Why would you even consider doing that? Buy singles.

>>51946182
the mtg house one is

>>51946264
If you think washed out cards with obvious contrast issues are convincing as real then you need a better prescription

>>51939744
Ok poorfag here.

I allways wanted to get to Modern because Standard allways feels underpowered and is rotating every now and then but I never had the money to invest into a good deck.

Where do I find affordable and legit-looking fakes like that mtg house one ? I heard Villa is a good seller but how reliable a back alley chink cardmaker can be ?

Ranger of eos reprint confirmed

>>51946199

Do you have a bunch of friends who are willing to do a draft with you and let you keep the cards after? Or are you willing to sit on the box for two-three years unopened and sell it then?

If you answered no to both of those questions the answer is no, don't buy a box.

>>51944698
>selling your proxies as originals
Gay

>>51946471
Good, that card needed better art.

>>51946471
Here come the soon to be 2 dollar rates, damn I'm so excited, god I'm so excited to see what absolute fucking trash Wizards came up with this time

>>51945612
yes, the printer apparently didn't wated to keep working with him

>>51946084
>>51946097
Man, Innistrad-block Standard was such a cancerous fucking place...

>>51946480
I hate Wizards too but Ranger is actually $8 and needed a reprint.

>>51938972
>Were Zendikar boxes $500 the first day of spoilers?
That's because Scalding Tarns weren't $80 back then.

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>>51946353
I don't need to think anything. I have been using them in tournaments for months and no one has caught me. Observation, hypothesis, experiment, analysis. It's the scientific method.

>>51946471
>"just let me go get my drafted goblin guide and swiftspear, cast this pump spell and kill you for 5!"

this draft enviroment is going to be strong as fuck.

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>>51946471
>tfw planning on making a Soul Sisters deck before the spoilers

>>51946084
>oh shit, thragtusk combos so well with restoration angel
How fucking new can you be.

>>51946485
I hope he finds a new one, he's the only one that consistently makes fakes you can actually attend tournaments with.

>>51946471
Boros control is gunna be strong this set. Lightining helix soon.

>>51943523
>No Garruk art
JUST!

>>51946471
The art on this one is actually worse than the original. Well done.

On the other hand, this needed a reprint

>>51946515

New enough, I assume. But the guy just noticed a really neat interaction on his own which means he's got potential as a player. That's a good thing.

>>51946515
>thatsthejoke.jpg

>>51946523
Its the original print art and garruk isnt harnonizing with shit now hes g/b qq.

>>51946517
BL has a lot of good cards too, the best thou are fetch and duals.
If he returns is probably that the quality will be down for a while, cuz he has to calibrate the machines to print again

>>51946530
I disagree, I don;t think either are particularly great but this one is fine

>>51946545
He is harmonizing with YOUR IMMINENT DEATH BY AXE

>>51946517
Actually, his cards are easier to spot than chinaman's. He needs to seriously consider printing them in 2 layers. People have been playing with BL fakes for months. Everybody knows this.

>>51946530

Come on man, DOG SHIELD!

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We not talking about this?

>>51946496
And I fucked your mom last night, what's your point?

>>51946599
SOME STAY DRY AND OTHERS FEEL THE PAIN

>>51946609
God dammit.

Hoping for both Path and Bolt. Do we had good odds? Both were missing from MM15

>>51945227
>Boycotting is a dirty fucking hippie tactic that is the worst way to do anything

Why is not buying into bullshit bad again?

Path, bolt, helix reprint. Boros is God tier draft

>>51946599
cause its a mediocre card?

>>51946558
>>51946550
BL's cards are hit and miss. Especially if you order singletons; he just sends the editions he can't sell. If you're ordering his packs he's fine, but you'd have to order 4 packs to get a playset of a card you want.

>>51946675
It's a good anti tron sideboard card, not the best reprint but definitely better than a fuck ton of other uncommons

>>51946645
>>51946645
So in a boycott, instead of calling for state intervention or popular violence, the consumer exercises simple market pressure by choosing where and when to spend or not spend their money.

Isn't that, like, the most ancap shit ever?

>>51946658
>theorizing about the shittiest format
>impliying you will get all those cards together
>impliying you will get any boros good cards in your pack
>impliying boros has enough card advantage to draw those tree cards every match
>impliying limited is not literally how picked first the best bomb
shitters like you should kys asap, you ruin products like any master sets

>>51946675
I know tg is bad at magic but come the fuck on

>>51946675
well it's a card that actually gets played, so that's something

>>51946720
>Actually gets played
>on just one deck
>that's barely is tier 3
what does the jew semen taste like?

>>51946748
>Burn is tier 3
What's it like to be so retarded?

>>51946770
what tier do you think it is?

>>51941672
they're not even expensive despite being almost 10% of the modern metagame

>>51942709
agreed, standard is plagued by a 3-4 deck metagame so people go absolutely bananas trying to get the playsets.

>>51946687
>>51946704
>>51946720
sorry i thought this was the EDH general, ya that card is good for modern, you should get it in red in some decks

>>51946770
>burn using a 3 cmc that causes 2 damage instead of another lightning bolt
he is not the retard

>>51946849
>What is a sideboard?

>>51946849
vs what? tron? scapeshift? burn beat those decks so hard that they don't need sideboard

>>51946927
>>51946860

>>51946849

I think the deck that uses it might be Ponza not Burn

>>51946471

This is still one of the most well balanced cards ever printed in MTG.

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>>51947237

>>51946493
Soon to be

>>51947349
Okay

I hope we get another rare to common reprint

>>51947237
>>51947349
>>51947372
Didn't mean to reply

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>>51947237

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>>51947237

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Oh, snap


Mythic, no dunkcaster art. shit

>>51947474
Such shit art. Why?

>>51947474
>snap at mythic
Preorder for more rarity shifted cards goyim

>>51947474
Cool art though

>>51947474
At least the finally reprinted the fuck. Sad he's competing with domri and griselbrand, but still about damn time

>>51947487
Awesome. I don't mind mythic snap after seeing this

>>51947474
>mythic

>>51947474
> A rare has never been upshifted to mythic if it came from a set with mythics. WotC does not work that way.

Okay, then

>>51947474
HAHHAHAHAHHAQHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>IMPLYING ALL THE GOOD RARES WEREN'T ALREADY SPOILED
>IMPLYING WE'RE GETTING ANY GOOD UNCOMMONS
LMAO WOTC COCKBLOWERS BTFO

>>51947474
>People itt actually hate the art
I knew tg had shit taste but this is just aad

>>51947474
>mythic
REEEEEEE FUCKING WIZARDS YOU DUMB FUCKS

though i should have known with all the retarded upshifts in EMA

>>51947524

The art isn't bad, it's even better than the original.

But it's no dunkcaster,

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Oh well.

Snap had to be at mythic for the draft environment guys come on, stop hating on WotC for once and enjoy this amazing product.

>>51947542

fucking lol

>>51947542
Fake?

>>51947542
Ebin. Simply ebin.

Here's a (You)

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>>51947542

>>51947603
Is modern masters really the place to be getting all these commander cards?

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>>51947540

Both this one and the dunkcaster suffer from the same problem. Too wide an angle. The shot should be much tighter. Kinda like old school Meddling Mage looks much better than Alara's

>>51947542
Ayy lmao

>>51947603
GET YOUR FUCKING EDH CANCER OUT OF MY MODERN SET REEEEEEE

>>51947603
Nice. Foils were getting expensive

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>>51947603

It's not even an expensive card, but >mfw this fucker on EDH

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>>51947619

superior meddling coming through

Flashback and Soulbond confirmed to return. There's some great reprints incoming

>>51947474

I want to strangle those fucking kikes.

>>51947556
>>51947542
Where are you getting these from?

>>51947568
>>51947542
If anyone actually had to wonder, it's fake, otherwise it'll say "create a token"

>>51947561
you know, i would actually buy that if they printed lightning bolt, path, lightning helix, sleight of hand amd other good commons/uncommons etc at their normal rarities

>>51947665

Twitter.

>>51947542 is fake tho

>>51947561
That's actually what bothers me, it could easily be rare/uncommon for limited.
A 2 mana 2/1 flash isn't amazing in limited, it will trade down or even in most scenarios, and in limited you have way less spells, so its on average a 1.5 for 1.

Apparently they're going for a blue/white blink, in which this would fit well, as many blink effects are on spells, so this is a blink enabler and payoff, but it requires a specific deck, so its neither "win the game" nor completely useless in draft,which would be the argument (for draft) to put it at mythic.

>>51947693

How about

"It's a chase card"

>>51947647
Tighter angle. My point stands.

>>51947693
Ive read that Goyf, Bob and cards like that are shifted to mythic because they dont want to destroy the value of "collectors"

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>>51947474
Friendly reminder that the art could be worse

>>51947739
this
im real happy they didnt print the shitty niggermage art

https://twitter.com/bmkibler/status/836613524226920448

>>51947683

Come on. Official reprint policy has been a joke since time immemorial. Why the hell did they remove P9 from Beta to Revised? Which non-existent draft format were they hurting? Rarity and reprints have ALWAYS been driven by economic reasons.

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>>51947758

hearty kek

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>>51947758
A $6 mythic. Yay!

>>51947758
Well there goes this sets comet storm

>>51947793
$4, actually

>>51947817
Could be worse. It could be 98 cents.

It's just gonna sting when you pull this and not LotV

>>51946471
This is a good card, im glad they reprinted it

>>51947759
i guess my post sounded too accepting
i aggree with you, the reprint policy is total shit. i was just trying to say if they did at least they would have a good excuse to put it at mythic. it would still be retarded thougj
of course the obvious reason is because wizards is retarded and doesnt want snap to loose too much secondary market value

>>51947894
They don't care about secondary market value. They just wanna sell packs. And upshifting a popular card does that.

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>>51947894
I apologize, sir or madam. I spoke too quick.

>>51947907
i do not believe this for a second
of course they want to sell packs, but historically theyve shown thay theyll protect secondary market value

>>51947912
what the fuck is this reddit garbage

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>>51947823
WHAAAAAAAT?!!!

(For the record, I think that this set's Comet Storm is still out there. These shitbombs usually follow one of the big announcements. The bigger the chase mythic, the bigger the shitbomb. Snapcaster>This turd. Liliana>Brace yourself)

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>these are supposed to be the cards that get people hype
>literally just fetches damnation and mythic snapcaster
If this is supposed to be selling packs, just what the fuck man, the next set of spoilers better be real good cause so far this is just fucking garbage
>mythic domri griselbrand and bonfire
If these are the fist ones they spoil, I don't even want to See the other ones, cause lili alone does not make up for the rest of this trash
I'll say it again
>mythic snapcaster
Fuck you wozards you fucking kikes

>>51947949
Well idk conspiracy 2 dealt pretty big blows to berserk and show and tell prices.

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>>51947956

What if pic related

>>51947716
Yeah that'll be the argument, but its not an exciting flashy one, just an expensive efficient one.

>Cards at mythic rare won't just be tournament level cards.
according to maro, but if a mythic isnt.
>Broken or completely dead in limited
>Out-of-there weird
>Exciting to open up for new folk
it shouldnt be.

people don't want to open snap because its a card they are excited to play, but because its a 45 dollar bill, and that should not be a reason for mythic.

>>51947907
Actually i wonder whether upshifting to mythic will make people buy more packs or go "i'm never gonna open that up with those odds".
(for people that lack the insight that you should only buy packs for limited)

>>51947474

Get ready for the goyf-level price spike.

>>51948017
There won't be one because the amount of goyf decks to snap decks is hugely out of proportion

>>51947986
Those were cards from the way-back times of Magic. Berserk was a ABU uncommon, and S&T from Urza's Saga, both for Legacy and Commander. Their impact on the secondary market is very, very small. No one was sitting on 500 Show and Tells, waiting to sell them, so reprinting them is not a hit to speculators.

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Bigger art for all you autists out there. It's cerainly the better one of the three

>>51948057
Personally this is a little too "uncanny valley" to me. It looks like it should be modeled after an actual person but its not. I prefer the old art still, in any case.

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>>51948002
Oh, I dunno. How about pic related?. It even fits the draft archetype.

>>51948057

It's just some boring honkey

>>51948051
Point being, they put popular rares as mythics in limited print run sets to sell more packs, regardless of how good the card is. That's why goyf is a mythic, that's why bob is a mythic, etc.
You could even say they put less fatal push on the print sheets in order to sell more aether revolt packs. These guys want to make money selling packs. They just put the expensive cards in to make the packs more expensive.

Nice, might of old Krosa at uncommon, thanks wizards

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>>51948137
Old art is still better

>>51948111
Holy shit, when did this thing drop so low? It was around $2 after rotation, IIRC.

>>51948148
Wow, now I can finally afford infect after all these years... I for one am glad Wizards of the Coast are reprinting such great cards at fair rarities

>>51947757
>>51947739
you're both boring cucks that have no appreciation for good shit.

>>51948148

thank fucking god

that price was getting out of hand

>>51948057

I'll keep my Thiagos.

>>51948175
Lol too bad infect is shit now

>>51948100

It's Elon musk

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>>51948173
It's such a pity that the best Snapcaster art wasn't actually printed on Snapcaster.

>>51948111

True. I guess Domri is the Mythic that supports the RG beatsticks

>>51948212

>rg beatsticks
That's my favorite modern archetype

>>51948188

well i built 17 land infect with land grant and this is one of the last pieces i need

i won't even be playing it in modern

>>51947969
>If this is supposed to be selling packs
Yes? They've been the most wanted reprints for years, now.

>>51948148
Bam

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>>51947503
I love this card
my Prossh deck will always run it just because it was in the precon and fuck you I like it.
>tfw you are playing foodchain prossh and this little weirdo is in your opening hand

>>51948125
But they never go after the secondary market in any significant way. Being reprinted as a mythic in a limited run is only going to really affect the price of the dramatically scarce cards. Snap, Bob and Goyf are not in that category. And previous experience tells us that their price will go down a bit for a few months, and then it wiill go back to teh pre-reprint range. Wizards uses mythic rarity as a sales tool, but they never go after the secondary market. That would involve printing Goyf and Liliana as rares in a standard set.

>>51948201

>that edgy Assassin's Creed ass art

Nothing personnel kiddo.

Nothing personnel kiddo.
Nothing personnel kiddo.
Nothing personnel kiddo.
Nothing personnel kiddo.
Nothing personnel kiddo.

>>51948258
You just proved my point.

>>51948258
No, going after the secondary market is fixed as following:
>Make it so anyone can order a boosterbox of any set at wizards
>print and send out these boxes quarterly

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miracle cycle?

>>51948277
Find me better art of a mage who's literally snap-casting.

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Huh.

>>51948302
Why tho.

Entreat and Terminus are the only two other ones that deserve getting in, at mythic and rare respectively.

>>51948302

Diving Top confirmed?

>>51948325
Neat!

>>51948339
Nah, already in EMA; counterbalance might slip in tho.

>>51948302
Fake. It has no miracle cost

>>51940089
AliBaba has a chinese fake section but if you get anything less than the most expensive option then they will intentionally send you shit. Even if you get the best quality maybe half will be passable

>>51948283
Not entirely. You mentioned Conspiracy2 as Wizards dealing pretty big blows to the price of Berserk and Show and Tell as signs that they do not care about the secondary market. This is not so. Wizard ALWAYS takes the secondary market into consideration when reprinting expensive cards.

>damnation
>snapcaster
>fetches
well at least they reprinted them, but I wish they would print them in enough quantity that it affects the price, even if for a little while.

>>51948352

Should have waited for the full card to take the screenshot, I guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOcHJGNVEIM

>all these bulk mythics
The rest of the rates had better be fucking insane to keep these box values above 100 dollars

>>51946515
>INN RTR standard was 5 years ago

New thread
>>51948461
>>51948461
>>51948461

>>51940364
Even as a green timmy i know that creature destruction is something that needs to be a thing.

Land destruction though that's horse shit

>>51948454
Man, that was just the worst fucking standard...

>>51948433
Its mm15 all over again. The real value coming in a few cards.

I personally couldnt care less because I will wait for all of you to crack packs like degenerates

>>51947603
ITS FOR THE AZORIUS FLICKER DECK. You will draft this with suntitan and enjoy it.

>>51946353
Contrast was shaky back then, I have sets from time spiral, each have various brightness that I opened myself.

>>51947537
fucking love me some thoctar

>>51947556
fucking mythic reee
this was an unnecessary rarity increase

>>51946699
>consumers choosing to spend their money how they want is anarchist

you fucking kidding me, anon?

>>51947867
Tbh senpai, Lord of the Void is much worse