What are common stereotypes in science fiction/Space opera?

>>51911465
Every race aside from human have their one mental and one physical meme/shtick about them.
Only human and protagonist aliens divert from that trope.

>>51911465
>X Race is the best at Y and members of X are all Y.

Terraforming and settling. If you're advanced enough to send massive ships across hundreds of lightyears, you're advanced enough to create your own environment with perfectly tuned gravity and total control of weather.

Space Warfare as Age of Sail or WW2 Pacific naval warfare.

>>51911486
>>51911488

THIS. HELL YES THIS. One culture, one religion, one philosophy, one behavior, one schtick, one language, etc.

The worst example is the Honorable Warrior Race/Species. You see settings with dozens differentiated only by what kinds of Trek geegaws are glued to their faces.

Planets are just as bad. ALL swamp, ice, city, etc. Thank you George Lucas, you fucking hack.

>WARRIOR RACE
>WISE RACE
>SCIENCE RACE
>Race instead of species.

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Space megacorp.

Humanity is the young ambitious species that manages to do things that took thousands of years to everyone else.

>Humans are defined by western ideals.

Space traveling works like sailing

>>51912116
You forgot
>SEXY RACE

>>51912112
All hot or all cold makes sense, but even in an "Ice" planet or a "desert" planet you would have geodiversity due to weather patterns and the like. An ice planet would have subterranean oceans and cryovolcanoes above them, huge glaciers in place of rivers, great tundras and continental tagia forests. It wouldn't all just be a planet of greenland, which is how it's usually depicted. And planets like "swamp planet" make negative sense. Swamps require a precise balance of conditions and they're not self sustaining.

>>51912112
>Planets are just as bad. ALL swamp, ice, city, etc. Thank you George Lucas, you fucking hack.
To be fair, every planet that we've seen aside from Earth is that way.

While it's likely that there are exo-planets that have diverse environments, we haven't yet observed them closely enough to know for sure.

Likely most planets with life are going to be slimeballs. The Earth stayed as a slimeball for 3 billion years. That's longer than all the history of complex life put together. Plus, any early starter have been likely exterminated by gamma ray burst, which were more common, and radiation from the once active galactic nucleus. Even then, peer planets are likely going to be separated by millions of years in evolution.

>>51911465
They have space ships

>>51912068
fuck lukas so much. every time i see a game of movie have fighters in space i have to puke

>>51912349
>To be fair, every planet that we've seen aside from Earth is that way.

Trappist-1, knucklehead. You should have heard of that system just this week.

The diversity of exoplanets is far greater than your Star Wars Happy Meal would have you believe.

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>>51912349
Here's pluto, true colour, and hoth, as in empire strikes back. Notice how hoth is one general indistinct ball of snow with some small pools of water, while pluto has large clearly defined geologically different zones?

>>51911465
Giant planet killer/planet sized space station/powerful alien relic ALWAYS gets blown up.

That pisses me off, its like authors and writers are just too afraid to give power to the protagonists and know how to write empowered and logical characters with large amounts of military might.

Manual labour is not done by robots.

>>51912472
Literally all we know about those planets is their masses, radii, and orbits. We know literally nothing about their surface conditions, aside from constraints on temperature based on sunlight. It has nothing at all to do with the single-gimmick planet idea.

The point is, most known planets are single-gimmick. Venus is the Hot Acid Cloud planet, Mars is the Cold Red Desert planet, and most of the moons have their own quirks - You've got plenty of Ice Moons, some with undersurface oceans and cryovolcanoes, you've got the Hydrocarbon Marsh Moon, you've got the Half-Black-Half-White Moon, and lots and lots of Cratered Grey Balls.

There are still regional variations - Mars does have 'biomes' of a sort, the Moon has its maria, but you could be very easily forgiven for rounding off most of the solar system to single environment worlds.

>>51912829

That said, none of these have life in them and most of them are geologically dead.

>>51912829
The Earth's variety comes mostly from having 1) active plate tectonics, which leads to really complex geology, 2) oceans, which adds weather, and also makes erosion really complex, and 3) life, which among the obvious local color also is a huge contributor to our planet's geochemical cycles and shapes the regions it lives in in really fundamental ways.

I would expect planets with similar features to also have interesting variety. And they may all be interlinked - there's reason to believe rocky planets need oceans to have plate tectonics, that without plate tectonics to keep recycling various elements there couldn't be life, and that without life to keep the carbon cycle going you'd ultimately end up like Venus.

>>51912846
>That said, none of these have life in them and most of them are geologically dead.

Exactly. What pinheads like >>51912829 overlook is that people walk around on their Ice!, Desert!, Whatever! planets breathing the air and wearing clothes instead of spacesuits.

You cannot be forgiven single biome worlds where humans walk around unprotected in said biome.

As for Trappist-1, we know three of the planets there are roughly Earth-sized, orbit in the star's liquid water zone, and are almost certainly tidally locked. Whether or not humans can stroll unprotected on them, they WILL have geodiversity.

>>51912829
But that's the whole problem. People read "cold desert planet" and just assume the entire planet is the gobi desert. People ignore the great canyons of mars, the rocky areas, the glaciers, the sea and river beds, the mudflows, the volcanoes and so on. It's always just red sand with the occasional mountain.
Now, yes, most do fall under a single earth biome category, but when you extrapolate those biomes to planetary scale, things become very different to earth. Pluto has forests of ice spikes hundreds of meters tall, but you'd never see that on hoth because sci-fi authors have no sense of imagination, and so reality ends up being much stranger than fiction because fiction is afraid of being strange.

>>51912802
>not virtually all labour is handled by robots/low Ais

>>51912846
I was just typing out part 2, it just took me a while because phone keyboard.

>>51912958
I didn't overlook it, it just didn't fit into the post. See >>51912956 for the addendum.

>>51912802
>>51912977
I sent get it. What will become of people if there is not any work and labor anymore?

>>51912976
No one has the autism necessary to map out several biomes in several unique planets, especially in a visual medium.
It's not that they have no sense of imagination, it's that you fail to realize just how BIG planets are. No one has time to care about the geology on several planets when there's no one who truly understands all the different biomes on earth.

>>51913082
Unless the Singularity has come and the machines have utterly supplanted humanity, there will always be *some* work to do. If robots can do all manual labor super cheap, then all the things that require manual labor but would otherwise be too much of an investment for people to do freelance open up.

And just because people would no longer *need* to work in order to ensure there would be goods and services, doesn't mean there'd be nothing to *do*, or nothing that people would want done by humans.

>>51913082
There'd still be work out there that people would do because they enjoy it. Like how Sisko's dad in DS9 running a restaurant.

>>51913082
>What will become of people if there is not any work and labor anymore?

Look at the inner cities in the US, the banlieues in France, the "grass eaters' in Japan, etc.

When provided with what they need to live, most people will end up doing nothing of any real substance and instead will divert themselves in various ways; drugs, religion, fantasy lives, obsessive hobbies, casual violence, etc.

In John Barnes "Million Open Doors" series, most of Earth's population consists of morbidly obese shut-ins spending nearly all their waking hours plugged into VR systems while robots, AIs, and a tiny fraction of people keep the post-scarcity system chugging along.

Things were so boring that many people volunteered for STL generation ship colonization projects planned around specific and mostly make-believe "cultures" like Neu Occitan and it's "3 Musketeer/Dumas/Cyrano/dueling" lifestyle.

>>51913082

They shall become amateur writers.

>>51913082

People may take advantages of cybernetics and genetics in an attempt to catch up machines.

>>51912683
>>Sitting on the internet hating on successful IP's that people like is much more productive than making my own better one.

>>51913261
Spending your life working for the man is of real substance and worth, suuuure.

People with nothing to do are obese because obesity isn't forced on people by shitty lifestyles that don't leave them enough time to cook and eat proper food and exercise.

Nobody ever engaged in amateur sports, arts, music without any realistic hope of monetary reward. This is why marathons don't draw in tens of thousands of people in big cities, and people don't share their creative visions for free online.

>>51913082
For one thing, humans are actually pretty incredible machinery; it will be a long time until there is any hardware that can match a human in *every* application, and there may never be a machine that can perform as well or better than a human at all/most areas at once. Humans are ridiculously versatile.

And designing specialized hardware and software to replace any particular human task is expensive, and so is installing it once developed, even if it is cheaper to run. Doing so only really makes sense for factories or large chains, where you have many employees performing essentially the same task in parallel or performing the same task many times repeatedly. McDonalds might automate, but small local restaurants might never do so.

>>51913382
>Nobody ever engaged in amateur sports, arts, music without any realistic hope of monetary reward. This is why marathons don't draw in tens of thousands of people in big cities, and people don't share their creative visions for free online.

Nice binary thinking, sperglord. You autistically assumed ALL when I deliberately wrote MOST.

Yeah, 10,000+ drawn worldwide run in the NYC marathon. Now, contrast that with how people actually live the NYC metro area. Ditto all the other activities you listed.

Most people are lazy assholes. Not all, most. If given what they need to live, most people will do nothing of consequence with their free time. Not all, most.

There will be outliers and I mentioned their presence in Barne's series, but most people will end up doing little more than turning food and drink into shit and piss.

>>51913542
And right now these same people do the same shit, except they also spend 40-80 hours per week at work, and probably half of it on the road.

They aren't suddenly going to become amazing artists or scientists or musicians. They weren't doing shit before, and they'll continue not doing shit, what's the problem?

>>51913542
Most people are too poor and too busy working to not be poor to invest time and money into anything more involved than TV. It's not laziness, anon, it's poverty.

And regardless, a world where people flat out do not have to work would be so radically different than the current one that trying to decide what it would be like based on our present circumstances is impossible.

>>51911465
>ancient aliens left ruins everywhere
>mages, but they get a fancy name like psychics
>spaceships are basically exactly like sea ships, though they may be as impractically big as you please
>most alien races are humans with a funny skin color
>the others are space bugs
>or space furries
>some sort of transcendental singularity scenario ala Evangelion
>space magic in general explains everything
>blending of the most superficial aspects of a genre: your protagonists can travel in a Star Trek-esque spaceship, have a not!Jedi on board, investigate on Cyberpunk planet, then go to low-tech Cowboy planet, before facing the Lovecraftian BBEG

>>51913612
>They aren't suddenly going to become amazing artists or scientists or musicians. They weren't doing shit before, and they'll continue not doing shit, what's the problem?

Exactly.

>>51913656
>>Most people are too poor and too busy working to not be poor to invest time and money into anything more involved than TV.

Complete and utter bullshit.

Most don't have enough time? In 2015, the average person in the US spent FIVE HOURS A DAY watching TV. That's the average meaning half of people watch more than 5 hours.

Most don't have enough money? Watching TV requires a TV plus cable, Netflix, etc. They've enough money to pay monthly subscription fees but not enough for basic running shoes? Paper and pencils? Does THINKING cost money?

Most people are LAZY ASSHOLES, Skippy. Poverty is an excuse, not a reason. When you grow up you'll come to understand that.

>>51913927
Okay, add "lack the energy" to that list. Try working two, three jobs to make ends meet and see if you've still got the drive to run a marathon or write a novel.

>>51914039
>Okay, add "lack the energy" to that list. Try working two, three jobs to make ends meet and see if you've still got the drive to run a marathon or write a novel.

More excuses? I worked at a shipyard on swing shift, went to college during the day, and still found time to hike, play wargames, cook, clean, chase/fuck women, etc.

You have the time you make. When you're lazy, you make nothing including time.

It is human behavior to turn a safety net into a hammock.

>Most people are lazy assholes, therefore they should while away doing meaningless jobs that are probably indirectly killing them, for no reason. Mincome bad!

>>51914108
>hike, play wargames, cook, clean, chase/fuck women

What about any of this has "real substance"? I thought you were talking about people being too lazy to put their time towards creative and intellectual pursuits, but apparently you're just bitching about how some people's non-productiveness is somehow worse than yours.

>>51914121
>>Most people are lazy assholes, therefore they should while away doing meaningless jobs that are probably indirectly killing them, for no reason. Mincome bad!

I'm not saying that, asshole.

What I'm saying that a "mincome" system doesn't automatically create a huge outpouring of creativity coupled with an explosion of personal growth.

Neither of those things are occurring now within the populations which have limited "mincomes" and neither will happen when a majority of people enjoy large "mincomes" associated with fully automated, post scarcity societies.

TV sucks.

>>51914318
>What about any of this has "real substance"? I thought you were talking about people being too lazy to put their time towards creative and intellectual pursuits,

>attend college full time
>work full time to support myself
>enjoy a variety of leisure activities
>I was doing it wrong

Spandex spacesuits and casual wear

Martians will bitch that they can play with their Earhling counterparts due the the 3-20 minute lag.

>>51911465
Rubber forehead aliens.

>>51914366
I'm not saying you're doing it wrong, that sounds like a solid life. I'm saying it's not that different from the people you're calling lazy assholes.

>>51914435
>I'm saying it's not that different from the people you're calling lazy assholes.

Working, instead of collecting a dole.
Earning a degree, instead of dropping out.
Physically active, instead of parked in front of the TV.
Intellectually active, instead of parked in front of a TV.
Working towards my future, instead of doing the same thing day in and day out.

You're right. There's no real difference at all.

>>51912453
why would fighters be so infective?

>>51912683
I know we're comparing real life to fiction here, but Pluto is covered in all kinds of different frozen gases, all of which together might absorb and re-emit the Sun's light at that particularly dirty brown color.
If Hoth has a different surface composition then that could help explain the color difference.

That there aren't any visibly different geological regions on Hoth is a big problem though. All of those big ass moons would stir up some sort of weather to shape Hoth's surface, even if the world is so old that it doesn't have many active geological processes anymore.

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>>51911465
>spaceships can travel in space
>technology does stuff
>there are living beings in the setting
>languages are used to communicate
>clothing exists and is used
>there are planets that float around in space

>>51913927
Bear in mind that averages can be a poor measure of center when it comes to social data.
Outliers can drag the mean away from a more realistic value.
If out of 10 people surveyed 9 of them watch TV for 1 hour per day, but 1 of them watches it for 10 hours per day, then the average TV watch time is 1.9 hours per day, even though the majority of those surveyed only watch it for 1 hour.
It works the same way if a lot of people watch a lot of TV but a few of them don't watch it at all, though in this case the average shifts left and appears lower than what the true majority is doing.
That's not to say that averages can't be accurate or that they aren't useful, but the median is a more reliable measure of center in situations that have potential for outliers in the data.

>>51914678
>Bear in mind blah blah blah

While it was 3 decades ago, I took statistics. Passed too.

Five hours is a SHIT TON of time in which people can be doing all the things >>51913656 wanted to believe they have no time for.

Again, we're talking about most and not all. We're talking about the population as a whole, not small groups or individuals.

Are there individuals overworked and under payed to the point where their lives consist of too much work and too little sleep? You fucking bet there are.

Do the majority of people with free time PISS AWAY that time? You fucking bet they do.

>>51912683
If you want to get into planet realism the real crime Hoth commits isn't bland geography. Any planet CAN be bland geographically. What it can't be is as small as Hoth is and retain any kind of breathable atmosphere. Hoth's radius is just a bit bigger than Mercury. It's also pretty unreasonable for large creatures like tautauns to live there with essentially no food to eat. Without abundant autotrophic organisms you can't have heterotrophs living there.

>>51911465
One thing it seems no one is mentioning is how sci fi totally forgets about how big space is, even when you handwave away FTL and the like. Spaceships are always flying within visual range to shoot at each other or worse, you have space marines or what not fighting other military foes. The reason is understandable: realistic wars in space will involve extremely high speeds, extremely long distances, and aside from the lengthy travel times will be so cataclysimic and fast that it wouldn't be fun to watch. It's still a stereotype though.

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>>51913082
The colonial era called. They want their populist fallacies back.

>>51912168

Saudi Arabia didn't put a man on the moon.

How common is, "the technologically-advanced machines are hyper-religious?"

>>51911465

You can hear sounds in space, as in space fighters and ships firing *pew pew* lasers and shit.

As far as I know sound doesn't travel in vacuum.

Also there are quasi-magical defensive energy ''shields'' and whatnot

>>51912802
>Mining is done by medical holograms
>by hand, with actual picks and shovels
Voyager

>>51911465
Empires are bad

>>51914919
>You can hear sounds in space, as in space fighters and ships firing *pew pew* lasers and shit.
That's just shows adding in sound effects for the benefit of the audience. For all we know, it's actually dead silent in-universe unless the characters acknowledge the sound.

Does shit explode or does it just break apart in space?

>>51914553
Usually, and on the higher/harder end of the sci-fi scale, they have lots of drawbacks.

>Maintenance and Parts
>Training squishy pilots that need Oxygen
>Needing more people on the ship to run the fighters

When you have interstellar battles where ships fired last week, and fights are breaking out between the Golbian Federocracy and Xi'on Emperacrauts on a galactic level, they don't make too much sense since even point defenses at that level should be able to swat them out of the sky.

>>51912168
Just like in real life.

>Artificial gravity.
>Artificial gravity is the last things to fail.
.

>>51915567
HOWEVER,

At the lower, more personal size, they can do fine. A carrier trying to take a planet can project more force over a wider area, and do precise damage, than a super massive Battleship that fires every other day.

They are also good at the Cowboy Bebop or Firefly sizes, since you can pack a pretty strong and capable prototype fighter in the hold of the Millennium Turkey to surprise would be hijackers during your smuggling runs.

>>51911465
hyperjumps for FTL travel

also, ftl travel in general

Inertial dampers.

>>51911486
>Aliens will never be divided into nation-states and will either be one race-wide democratic republic, hive-mind, or imperial despotism with some nobles added for plot devices.

>Aliens will NEVER be depicted as having separate nation-states if humans are depicted as having a race-wide signle government.

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>>51912129
> Posting peb-tier mega-corps

Best mega-corps coming through

>>51911465
Space travel is quick, easy, and routine for people at the main character's social level.

>>51914896
Battlestar Galactica.

The Reaper-aligned Geth in Mass Effect.

>>51915624
Or you could just shoot the planet bound defenses from orbit? You know with all the guns and ammo you could fit instead of an incredibly wasteful flight deck.

Space "fighters" only make sense as the Ferrari bragging rights type of shuttle not as a weapon of war where they would be atomised by computer controlled defenses.

>>51914896
Too common.

Fuck you, Ray Kurzweil. Spiritual machines should be mocked by secular machines.

>>51915723
Yet, we are the secret.

>Ancient precursor aliens with an all powerful galaxy spanning empire that are either mysteriously extinct or are about to die off because "reasons".

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Aliens are not uncomfortable in human ships/planets/stations despite having evolved in planets with different:
>temperatures
>climate
>luminosity
>radiation
>gravity
etc

Also eating alien food is surprisingly safe and it will never kill you.

>>51917397
They aren't dead they just got bored living in a galactic utopia and went to take a nap until things get interesting again.

>>51917397

Well, either we are the first or among the first, or everyone's death.

>>51917561
Not to mention that all of those possibilities are horrifying.

>>51915048

Well what would you do with retired holograms, throw them in a landfill?

>>51913927
>Most people are LAZY ASSHOLES
Stahp projecting, moron.
>Poverty is an excuse, not a reason
Nice meme! But when literally the entire economic system is stacked against people with no money, your argument makes no sense. Come back when you graduate kindergarten.

>>51917194
nice head canon - but, seriously: welcome to the age of drones! Glad you could join us! Don't let your big massive compensating-for-something battleship get blowed up by one teensy-weensy drone fighta! Twit.

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>>51917943
Dude just learn how to make more money LMAO

>>51918039
>Muh drones!
>Muh fighters!

If they've mastered spaceflight and are conducting space warfare then chances are the computing power is far high then possible today. Point defenses to knock down projectiles would also be able to knock down those drones/fighters you think highly of. With that precision they could also conduct pin-point strikes on the surface of the planet. Why send out expendable fighters when you can just sling a tungsten rod at the hardened bunker or w/e.

imo The Lost Fleet series had some pretty good ideas when it came to space combat.

>>51918283
Can't tell if you're stupid, or just pretending to be stupid. Given the anime, I gotta assume stupid.
This site is for 18+, kiddo.

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>>51918364
I'm 23 and I make $95k + full benefits you must have done something wrong

>>51918328
Hey, nice headcanon, but you're not thinking this through: if your big uber ship has a big uber computron doin' all yer calculations for fire control, then, well, you must assume the drones have one too!
Aaaaaand you're forgetting that, in virtually all of the competitive testing of space warfare, the drones win. Always. Masses of expendable drones always defeat big ships and big navies. This has been a truism of space warfare since we began to study it.

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>>51918398
Well, if that's true (and, let's face it: it ain't!), then clearly YOU have made some sort of horrendous life error to be shitposting on 4chinz with weeb shit...

>>51918398

What do you do?

>>51918398

Oh? Very nice. And how'd you get that, eh? By exploiting the workers. By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society.

That Calhoun mouse utopia experiment is interesting stuff.

>>51918398
Could we get free sample of your videos somewhere?

>>51918398

Nouveau Riche scum. You have no class.

>>51918452
And these tests are? What happens to these badass drones once ECM and shit come on line? And it still doesn't counter the fact about and sort of point defenses on the mothership.

>>51918452

Heat-management is the singles most important element when it comes to ship design.

The weakness of point defence is that space is a terrible when it comes to cooling things down. The only way to get rid of heat is by using radiation with gigantic and vulnerable radiators. A couple of shots from an high-powered laser and you have to retreat from battle too cool down your weapons.

>>51918452
Where are you going to fit this amazing supercomputer and weapons that can match the range of a capital ship on a tiny drone without making it the same size as the ship? Space is big yo you cannot hide over the horizon or hug the terrain in open space.

Can't hide can't match range of weapons cannot match defenses, fighters regardless of if they are manned or not would be pointless.

>>51918615
Oh kid! Oh, kid!! You really don't know?!?!
And ECM?! You go on about muh future tech, then swing a 20th century relic like ECM at me? No no, this just won't do. You need to do a deep dive into google, anon and research interstellar tactics and strategies. Come back when you know something.

>>51918687
Doesn't have to be lasers.
>Sir Issac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space.

>>51918687
This guy knows what's up.
>>51918706
This guy don't.

>>51918755
So you don't know shit. Good to know.

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>>51918499
>>51918530
>>51918543
I worked hard in HS, got a BS in EE, and got a job based on clear explanation of what I studied plus some dirt-simple oitside projects I made for fun, no nepotism or friend rec.

>>51918564
Sorry I don't get the joke :(

>>51918572
Far from rich but your correct.

>>51918805
see>>51918755
and>>51918687

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>>51911486
>>51912112
A singular focused society united behind one ideal is preferable to a heterogenous multicultural mess that liberal regressives have created.

>>51918898
FEAR, the post.

>>51913327
Why would you even think this is an argument

>>51912349
All the planets within our own system have diverse climes. Even the gas giants.

Man even Antarctica has large areas without snow.

>>51912472
Chill dude

>>51918997
>Man even Antarctica has large areas without snow
That's because Antarctica is a desert.

>>51913327
Why do people say this? This has nothing to do with the point they were making.

>>51918954
Kneejerk emotional reactions, generally when a criticism of something is taken as a personal insult.

>>51919903
Especially when said criticism is spot on.

>>51918398
At first i thought it was really impressive due to the dollaridoos confusing me, then i did the math and realized i've made a third of that working 10 months at 7eleven.

>>51918898
So why are you posting here instead of drinking beer and chopping wood like what your peers are all doing.
Don't betray their and your monoculture so remember to trash all your electronic goods and live near forests.

>>51920412
I am drinking beer and chopping wood.

>Technology

>>51912068
I unironically like the trope, honestly.

Although I prefer Tsushima or Jutland-styled naval combat.

>>51912068
How would realistic space warfare look like?

>>51920771
Extremely boring but also stressful shit with both parts going at sanic speeds and flinging shots and counter measures at each other at retarded ranges.

>>51920904
>at retarded ranges.
Define retarded range.

>>51920921
Ranges so extreme they need to be put in a special classroom

>>51920667
My great granddad torped bongs from Ostfriesland during that battle. Also I've always liked the Danish choice of naming the battle Skagerak rather than Jutland.

>>51920952
Space between the Moon and the Earth extreme or between the Earth and the Sun extreme?

>>51920983
The only limit is physical objects getting in the way, as in planets, moons, and asteroids

>>51921057
And fucking travel time.

You're not going to be able to accurately predict where a moving object is going to be at a light-minute away if that object is capable of changing its course at all.

>>51921141

No, but neither will the enemy. Forcing the enemy to move at all is useful, effectively being suppressive fire in space. The difference is you can do this at any range, provided line of sight, just at diminishing effectiveness. On earth, a bullet can only physically go so far, due to gravity and air resistance.

>>51917194
Or you could handwave it because fuck you, space fighters are cool and you want to run space Top Gun.

>>51921254
So neither of you are going to be hitting one another. Job well done, space pilots! Why would they even be fighting at that range anyway?

>>51920969
That has a certain ring to it, although I've never heard of it called that before.

>>51917198
But consider this... What if an infinitely more advanced machine finds your hard drive, sees inside your soul and finds the bits wanting? It will surely send you to virtual hell!

Wouldn't you prefer to be safe, believing in the Machine God? If you're right, you shall rejoice in virtual heaven. If you're wrong, there is only nothing at the end and you haven't lost anything.

I call it... The Turbo Pascal's Wager

>>51921312
It's mostly a Danish thing to differentiate between that one battle and the hundreds of others that actually took place on Jutland.

>>51917194
>use drones
>enemies hack them
>use fighters
>enemies can't hack a human

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>>51920771
Honor Harrington, but with more robots.

>>51921525
>what are bribes/religions/hostages

If only there was some kind of way to make a computer program mathematically unhackable...it could be called formal verification.

Another common trope: spaceships with orbital superiority can bomb planets at will.

Never mind that they're both in the same medium [the void] but one side has far more mass and volume for camouflage, armor, heat dispersion, and other advantages ships can't handle.

Tbf heat management is handwaved away consistently in most space opera.

>>51921525
Social engineering against the human components remains the best way to hack any system.

>space ships can reach significant fraction of c, perhaps even go faster.
>combat isn't done via relativistic missiles

>>51915404
>For all we know, it's actually dead silent in-universe unless the characters acknowledge the sound.

The audience a shit, shit!

>>51921827
Back when i was fucking around with nationstates, all the space opera war rp on the forums all just ended up with everyone firing FTL cannons at each other.

>>51911465
naked chick in a suitcase.

>>51925952
i think thats not a stereotype, thats a trope

>>51925952
A suitcase is clothing.

>>51921639
>Honor Harrington, but with more robots
NO. It would be (relatively) tiny drones or nano-swarms moving at 70% c trying to fry each other from ridiculous distances.