Warhammer 40k General - /40kg/

old thread died, soulburst I charge you during your shooting phase which prevents your unit from attacking me

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I posted this in the last thread right before it died. Please r8

>>51907872
still get to overwatch

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Started from last thread so I'll continue here. And thank you /tg/ for giving me the chance to post all of my games here I hope you lads enjoyed watching my Guard in action cause I sure love playing with them. And just to warn you lads I pretty much tanked everything from the opposing army throughout the game so might be a little angry at the fucking-glory-stealing Space Marines but I'm proud my lads held the line as long as they did. To start off the game we used two tables and both sides would have a four foot deep deployment zone and if more people wanted to play they could join in at any time. I was the leader of the Imperium team for that game so I supplied most of the force involved with 8 Leman Russ of various types and a shitload of infantry being brought to the fray. My brave and noble Raven Guard ally (because he actually stood and died with my Guardsman) brought a bunch of assault units and some Grav as well but he can be forgiven since we were outnumbered about 2 to 1 points wise because our other Space Marine player was still in a game and other people hadn't arrived yet. First turn we tried going aggressive with our deployment and immediately regretted that and from then on his with most of our force. My Guard got first blood on a Venomthrope as well because of a glorious battle cannon shell. And if you see Dark Angels throughout the batrep those are mine as well from my first army.

>>51907885
This seems almost cheesy.

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R8

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Hey /tg/,

What are your hopes for 8th edition?

My list;
Eldar and Tau nerfs.
Buffs for Orks and Tyranids.
Plastic Sisters of battle.
More campaign books and hero sets, like the Gathering Storm.

If this is all we get, I'll be more than happy.

>>51907886
unless you're orks I imagine being reduced to BS1 sucks

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>>51907889
Enemy army turn 1. And anons tell me if you're liking this shit. And should I go more images and less text for the rest of the batrep?

>>51907901
I just want Guilliman to be useful and not over 600 points.

>>51907895
It might be, I came up with it as a joke. The idea was to use two of the sorcerers (the ones with daemon weapons) as melee beatsticks with biomancy, and use divination and telepathy on the others to buff everyone, and the tzaangors as meatshields.

>>51907901
I want templates to be removed from the game and for vehicles/monstrous creatures to be united

Either everything bigger than cavalry becomes a vehicle or everything adopts the holy statline and we do away with AV and other vehicle bullshit

>>51907909
more images but who won? spoiler tag that so impatient anons like me can see the results but people who enjoy the thrill of storytelling won't be spoiled

>>51907919
Sounds like hell, what would be the point of a flamer over a bolter other than better overwatch?

>>51907919
If they get rid of AV i'm going to drive all my vehicles backwards at the enemy.

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>made custom rules for my own fancy Archmagos for my dudes
>want some feedback on its balance and ideas
>don't want to be ridiculed and made up as more of a faggot than I actually am

>>51907862
Official Tau theme song: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sX7fd8uQles

>>51907904
eh, you go from 33% to 16%

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>>51907919
>everything bigger than cavalry becomes a vehicle

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>>51907909
>unpainted models

>>51907941
that's why I said "unless you are orks"

ie if you're BS4 then the massive drop to BS1 really really sucks

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>>51907909
>>51907889
Also we dropped in some Sternguard with flamers to try to kill that big monstrous creature which they failed at cause of it's cover save. But onto the enemy turn they killed about 20 conscripts with a twin linked battle cannon and the Nids and Eldar moved up. The Nids also charged the Sternguard with a Carnifex but the marines held their own and stayed in combat.

>>51907934
flamer would still ignore cover and would generate more hits, either D6 or D3 or something

>>51907960
maybe, but i've blown up a zooming storm raven with an exalted flamer. i believe i rolled a 6 three times on the same die

>>51907927
Technically in points the Guard and Imperium side won but they were swarming us hard by the end of the game. They had so much more shit.

>>51907986
cool, in my game we had ynnari armies attacking, there was so much soulburst

>>51907969
That's retarded. Why would you want to make it more random.

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>>51907964
On our turn 2 we decided to grow some massive fucking balls and I deepstruck my three units of Scions (Kasrkin and other squad are vets) and both units of my Deathwing termies into the heart of the enemy force and I had my Raven Guard ally do the same with some pretty dramatic results.

>>51907995
>why would you want your dice game to use dice

I mean, in any close game of 40k the game will be decided by what turn the game RANDOMLY ends on

like there's an absurd amount of rng and luck in 40k, so why complain about it now? Especially if you're playing maelstrom of war.

Changing template weapons to add #dice hits doesn't make it more random (blast weapons are already an absurd mathematical formula if you're going to mathhammer the scatter) and it removes the ability to "game the system" (cheat) by moving the template too much/too little/moving it around as you count guys/shaky hands

>>51907995
to praise tzeentch

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>>51907901
>plastic sisters of battle

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>>51907919
>Either everything bigger than cavalry becomes a vehicle
What the fuck did you just say

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>>51907939
Eh, fuck it, I'm just posting it.
If anyone feels like it, I'd obviously need help with the whole balancing thing.
Yes, I'm aware that writing up houserules like this is autistic but considering I also wrote up fluff for my Forge World this isn't that much worse.

>>51908022
Melta scion command squad managed to wipe a Knight of the field turn two and I also discovered the joys of Soulburst after my Deathwing popped a Wave Serpent and got wiped. Pretty much turn two was one glorious suicide mission.

>>51907919
>Either everything bigger than cavalry becomes a vehicle or everything adopts the holy statline and we do away with AV and other vehicle bullshit
What about Walkers?

>>51908082
what about monstrous creatures which look exactly like walkers (ie the current rules)

>>51907872
Actually. I encountered a small dilemma today. I was playing my pure DE Ynnari+ Haem Covens list and my Archon killed the remainder of a Guardsman squad and triggered his own Soulburst, so I had the choice to charge a squad that was locked in combat with my immobilized Venom. Thing is, how does that work for consolidate moves? Do I roll my consolidate first and then determine charge range or does my soulburst charge take precedence over the consolidation move?

And then after that do you get to attack again in the new combat if you make it?


Naturally, like 2 reasonable humans my friend and I rolled off on it and the result ended up being that I got to consolidate (ended up rolling 6) and then charging 4 inches into the new combat where I killed the Commissar(Who pulled off double 1's and incompetent command one after the other in the same match.) in a challenge. I was under the impression that since the Soulburst took place at initiative step 7, the Archon was able to slice open the first 3 Guardsmen and then set his sights on the Commissar in the Veteran Squad.

Can anyone tell me if this course of action was correct or what my friend and I may have messed up? It was my first time running Ynnari on the table.

(Grotesquerie put in some FUCKING WORK today, too.)

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>Aeldari
Best GW meme.

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>>51907904
>tfw supreme fire discipline/grim resolve

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>>51908081

>>51907625
Jebus, do you really have 180 boyz?

>>51908073
Are you the ice world anon?

>>51908090
RAW you'd consolidate and then soulburst, I don't think you soulburst until after you resolve an entire combat though

>>51908088
Yes, but you're basically saying we should turn Walkers into Vehicles. I agree there are MCs which should be Walkers like Riptides/Stormsurges/Wraithknights, but rolling all Walkers into Vehicles when they're so clearly different is just retarded.

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>>51908100
And I do mean completely suicidal because the Avatar killed fucking everything we tried deepstriking.

>>51908116
But they're already considered vehicles for the most part.

>>51908106
Yeah, that's me. Want to eventually field my Archmagos as something other than just a Cawl/Ironstrider counts-as so I figured I might as well start working on some acceptable rules early.

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>>51908118

>>51908128
Not really, they've got different rules. Walkers are a distinct category.

>>51907901

Your wishlist was literally identical to everyone's wishlist for 7th edition. Look how that turned out. Eldar and Tau buffs, Ork and Tyranid nerfs, and no plastic SoB other than a Cadia HQ.

>>51908118
woah, the new avatar is better then i thought. i want it but it looks like a pain to paint and build

>>51907889
>tfw faggots with images not even worth looking at don't resize or crop
>tfw posters with stuff you actually want to look at make them too small

Goddamn it /tg/

>>51908112
I should've worded it better, but that first combat ended at initiative step 7 since the Archon straight up murdered the Sergeant in challenge and extra wounds spilled over into the rest of the squad (2 guys). Do combats go all the way to step 1 even if the unit in question is already dead? Or are you supposed to do the assault phase like this(an example, not what actually happeneD):
>Declare all charges
>Overwatch
>Charge ranges determined
>Models moved into combat
>Initiative step 10 begins across the board(2 Reaver Squads attacking different units roll for Hammer of Wraths)
>I9
>I8
>I7 (Archon attacks)
>I6
>I5(2 different Reaver Squads attack)
>I4
>I3(2 different Guardsmen squads attack back because I botched my rolls)
>I2
>I1(Power Maul Commissar attacks, and other Unwieldy Weapons)

Or does each combat follow it's own initiative steps and then resets at 10 for the next subsequent combat(s)?

I find Bullgryn with power mauls to be cool as shit, but I have no idea what the best way to use them is. They're so godawful expensive in points that you can't just mindlessly suicide them into the enemy, a full squad is ~30% of an 1850 point list.

How should I be using these dudes?

>Just played first 40K game
>exicted.exe
>Kill Team because just getting into hobby
>Have Kharn the Betrayer with 2 cultists
>one friend has array of Knight Lords
>Other friend takes eversor assassin.
>Depoly near Eversor
>Facepalm.exe
>Knight Lords sneak around and ambush Eversor
>Quickly dispatch of eversor
>Loose both Cultists but Win with 2 Wounds on Kharn.

Not to shabby for my first game. Cant wait to get more models.

>>51908198
>Kill Team
>Kharn and Eversors
Nigga what were you guys playing? Kill Team is 200 points and has no HQs.

>>51908192
Each combat is resolved individually.

Ive finally lost interest in 40k

Ill be checking out aos until the new edition comes out

later

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>>51908137
This will be the last one for tonight /tg// got work in the morning but I'll try to get to turn three before I go. So on their turn two the Grey Knights all came in and a Tyranid special formation with Mawlocs and Raveners also arrived adding an even bigger strain on our Imperial defences. And by this time we were getting desperate anons we called on every Imperial player there even our resident That Guy because we were so outnumbered in the game. And honestly that made it more fun and realistic because the Imperium is once again outnumbered and fighting tooth and nail against a superior force. But aside from killing some Terminators and our distraction force in their rear the enemy didn't really do much turn two.
By turn three everything became a clusterfuck so I promise you'll all be entertained.

>>51908211
Have fun with AoS in the meantime. Hope you have a better time than any of us right now. Ya faggot.

so how would some kariak acolytes look with red skin as cultists?

>>51908207
As I said Just getting into the hobby, but they said I could use Kharn. Guess we were using house rules?

>>51908144
Walker is classified as a type of vehicle in the rule book. They just happen to be a vehicle that uses a weird hybrid of vehicle and infantry rules.

>>51908192
err idk, i feel like how you did it was right but soulburst breaks a few inherent rules of the game

>>51908211
but anon; i love you and your enthusiasm for our greatest time waster. who will i troll and bitch at daily?

>>51908235

That guy is a trolling memefag.

>>51908231
Yeah, sounds like it. Normally Kill Team only allows Troopn, Elite and Fast Attack choices and has a 200 point limit.

>>51908198
>Knight Lords
Do you mean Night Lords?

>>51908231

They probably just let you use him because you're new. Imagine if they had said Kharn wasn't allowed in that game mode and you weren't able to play because that's all you had on you and had to sit out for the whole day while they played without you. That's just bad for everyone involved.

>>51908197
One word that should be two words:

Stormlord.

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>>51908224
I'll leave you with one of my favorite images of the night. Good night /tg/.

>>51908251
Yes

>>51908251
>not bringing an array of Imperial Knight Lords in their full formation for Kill Team
Now what kind of casual fag are you?

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How's my 200 point kill team league list look?

>>51908258
Ya your probably right. The group I played with seems pretty lax on the rules to an extent.

>>51908210
Ok, so assuming the Archon killed the Guardsmen at I7, made his consolidate, and Soulburst charged the next group, should he have been able to make his attacks in the new combat? Or did he kill the Guardsmen at step 7 and then it ticked down to 1 for his combat and "conclude" his personal assault phase, thus letting him get locked in combat but NOT be able to attack that new squad until the next turn comes around?

>>51908239
Yeah, FoB is really fucky, great buffs for my DE, but fucky...I hope GW gets around to the FAQ sooner than later.

>>51907901
Adeptus Arbites as a full fledged army, I really want space cops with robot doggos

>>51908261
Those fucking Nids always make me hungry for a PB&J sandwich, god damn it. Whoever owns them needs to give those fuckers at least a god damn wash already.

>>51908274
That can be totally fine. Don't let people tell you otherwise. So long as you guys are having fun, then the little plastic mans are worth their price.

>>51908268
>tfw my first 40k game one guy brought a Paladin and a Crusader

>>51908268
>mfw 1850 point Kill Team games

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>>51908260
I don't follow. You can't assault out of a Stormlord, if that's what you're getting at. It only counts as open-topped for the purpose of units shooting out.

Stormlords shouldn't be moving, anyway. You lose a crazy amount of firepower.

>>51908277
We don't know how it's supposed to work. RAW you'd resolve the combat like you normally would and initiative step thing is only if you use soulburst to charge into a combat that's already being resolved.

>>51907901
I would love for the Cult Mechanicus and Skitarii Codicies to be combined into one. Have a Codex: Mechanicus Explorators or something as a supplement later.

>>51907901
In order of priority:
>Clarified, less clusterfucky ruleset
>FAQ's ASAP for the inevitable rules contradictions/WAACy rules lawyers that'll come along
>Plastic Models across the board, removal of all Finecast and metal models and replaced with new plastic kits that include the ability to WYSIWYG the models to a reasonable extent
>Buffs on underpowered armies
>Nerfs on OP armies
>Fluff love to less represented armies with a slight toning down on Marine wank. (Seriously, Guilliman should be enough wank for a good while.)
>More "Gathering Storm" style books, but with a wider release window and not just Triumvirates. Possible tie in with the plastic model replacements.
>Not really 40k specific, but hobby wide...FUCKING DROPPER BOTTLES. STOP THIS PAINT POT BULLSHIT.

>>51908308

They aren't going to combine it because they are separate arms of the Mechanicus. Sort of like Imperial Guard and Space Marines.

I always wondered about this too until I actually looked up how the Mechanicus works, because I was wondering what the differences between the 30k Mechanicus factions were.

A Taghmata Omnissiah or whatever is basically the Mechanicus's Castellans of the Imperium detachment, and could feature both Cult Mechanicus and Skitarii.

>>51908308
I do wonder how they'd manage the different Warlord traits and Tactical Objectives they have. I'd imagine in a similar vein to Space Marine chapters in that they depend on your Warlord being a Skitarii or a Cult Mech Character.

Speaking of those, I want a fucking Skitarii Primus HQ unit already.

If I have to units in a transport can each of the units in the transport fire at two separate targets?

>>51908178

It's a wish list. I know it's probably stupid to hope for it, but you never know. Games Workshop has been listening an awful lot more than they used to.

>>51908342
Yes.

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And this was turn three but imagining the Inquisition hiring some Scions to Assassinate an Avatar without at least ten D weapons just seems silly to me. And I totaled it up and apparently just by myself I killed 23 units that game with most being Tyranids and Eldar.

>>51908337
They aren't really comparable to the Guard vs. Marines considering they're both under the same organization. Scions and the Guard are different organizations and they're in the same codex (in addition to the scions getting their own codex but that's almost an afterthought)

>>51908337
They could probably still make a combined codex that is just the Skitarii and Cult Mechanicus codices glued together and add a third "Adeptus Mechanicus" section that has a separate Warlord traits table, includes all of their combined formations (and some smaller combo formations in the Dominus Maniple range) and changes their faction to Adeptus Mechanicus to let both armies use the others (possibly eventual) Transports and skip any other possible faction related problems.

>>51908372
>implying Cult Mechanicus and Skitarii aren't under the same organization

>implying elite IG veterans with carapace and good weapons being compared to elite MT veterans with carapace and good weapons is the same as comparing Skitarii and Electro Priests

>>51908340
I wonder how they'd handle a Alpha Primus. Just give him a slightly higher statline? Or maybe just some unique wargear? In the Skitarii novel the Alpha Primus main character isn't all that different from the others around him aside from his rank and authority.

>>51908385
Scions in the AM codex aren't elite IG vets, they're literally Tempestus Scions just attached to the IG force. The MT codex was just to represent Scion regiments not being attached to larger IG forces.

>>51908419

They should just roll Skitarii into Cult Mechanicus

>>51908385
Skitarii and Cult Mechanicus is similar to Grey Knights and the Inquisition. They are both deeply connected by their believes, origins goals and one was created to be the weapon and extended arm of the other, yet both factions can still work independently, yet are meant to maximise their strength by working together.
Obviously, Skitarii aren't as individual as Grey Knights, though that is due to their nature and religion.

>>51908428
That would probably make the most sense. I'm not even really sure what the point of releasing a separate Cult codex was other than selling more rulebooks since the Skitarii are explicitly the military arm of the modern Cult Mechanicus. The current Cult book seems like it's supposed to be the Prefecture Magisterium or something.

>>51908394
Better offensive stats, a better armor an extra wound and more customization options.
The one in the novel is supposedly originally a Ranger Alpha, yet he's equipped with Mindscrambler Grenades, two Arc Pistols, two Arc Mauls and a Scryerskull. Having options like that on a Skitarii body with WS4 BS5 W3 and a 3+ armor save as its base could work. Also make Galvanic Rifles and Radium Carbines free to choose from.

the wait is agonizing

>>51908487
The wait for what?

>>51908502
Gathering Storm part 3

>>51907901
>orks, nids, and guard given doctrines/etc and a decent update
>re balance psychic powers
>assault range becomes 6 or 2d6 if you're feeling frisky
>night fighting back to limiting range at 36 unless search lights
>big rule book relics. everyone wants a decent 4++, eternal warrior, or scout
>new type; monstrous beasts, mc with 12" movement, MBs with wings move 18" (here ya go nids)
>something something tau suits hit by haywire take an additional poison hit

>>51908394
bigger hat
>big rule book relic that allows unit to assault from deepstrike, scout, infiltrate or outflank

>>51908536
>>big rule book relic that allows unit to assault from deepstrike, scout, infiltrate or outflank
That would be cheesy as shit

>>51908559
how about if it's 20 points? a drop pod full of melta dudes costs more and doesn't give you a chance to fight back.

>>51908559
>no Deep Strike unit in AdMech book
>only Outflank unit is vehicles as part of a formation
>only one Infiltrate unit that he would probably be wasted in since they tend to die ridiculously fast
It would honestly be a pretty bad relic for Skitarii.

>>51908101

Yes. Shortly after I started in 2007, Battle for Black Reach hit. I got at least 4 boxes of that, split between myself and some SM players, at least judging by the Warbosses I have.

Also I used to run Green Tide style Orks back in 5th, 4 mobs of 30 strong Boyz footslogging it across the table. Great days, great days.

These days if I run Boyz at all, it's in a Green Tide Formation, but it's just not the same...

>>51908577
>thinks 20 points is cheap

Oh you mean like that BROKEN AS FUCK CRIMINALLY UNDERCOSTED Hunter's Eye relic White Scars get that every single fucking player auto-takes in their vanilla netlists?

>>51908577
A drop pod of melta can only kill one unit.

>>51908633
What about a squadron

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Played a 1000pt team game as Sisters with Deldar/Quins Ynnari vs Ravenwing and Crons.

The croissants were largely ignored because we had zero effective anti-flyer.

The invisible librarian with the relic hit and ran away from the angry Kranoness after nuking his Knight buddy in a challenge.

The kabalite venom managed to put the last wounds off the Libby while the non-immobilized immolators chased down the other Knight squad.

The bikes were cut off and cut down before they could get away with the relic giving us the game.

>>51908752
You're still going 1 for 1.

>>51908513
Fulgrim should be fun.

Anybody see what a sad sack of shit this thread is?:

>>51901349
>>51901349
>>51901349

Anyone care to discuss in here?

>>51908905
>The croissants were largely ignored because we had zero effective anti-flyer.

>yfw GW expects you to buy an Avenger or whatever the FW shit is as your flyer
>it's not even piloted by an SoB

>>51909124
>tfw two autocannon heldrakes and no one ever takes any flyers against you.

>>51909124
>it's not even piloted by an SoB

Aren't all air units handled by the Imperial Navy? Of course it's not piloted by a SoB. There's that whole "don't let any specific section have access to enough resources to effectively rebel" thing the Imperium does.

>>51909148
Hive tyrants and heldrakes feels pretty even, but the battle is largely decided by those two flyers.

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>>51909154

>>51909183
Space Marine's are more the exception than the rule. Also the Avenger is even described as an Imperial Navy unit with the SoB just requesting support from the Imperial Navy.
>Its effectiveness is such that it is now a staple of any Imperial Navy air support mission, holding a glamour of holy import in the wider Imperium. The Avenger is often specifically requested by the Adeptus Sororitas should they require close support in their purgations,

>>51907901

GW making models for and reintroducing the Baron, Vect, and (why the fuck not lel) Cruellagh.

>>51908183
Yncarne is actually pretty insane. It seems slow due being walking MC but holy shit. 1st opponent turn, last unit he is fires kills a unit of yours and *BAM* Yncarne is standing in the field few inches away from his models. Suprise motherfucker.

He also has ability to hurt anything in the game due having both fleshbane and S6+armorbane. Tau hate him and for a good reason.

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R8 my new general pic I made on my phone, super high res
>Melee race
>I2

>>51909289
Except for the Avatar of Khaine.

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>>51909301
Melee is a spook

>>51909183
SM are not part of Imperium military structure, they operate outside of it.

None of the mainstay flyers are operated by members of the armies they support outside of specific regiments like Elysians. It's all IN including Valkyries and such.

>>51909170
My heldrakes are probably the best looking drakes ive seen, i flipped the wings and tail around to make the thing look like an actual sort of creature as opposed to a power rangers toy. Still, its depressing to have them come on and do little. Maybe its just mine being pathetic to mock me, I dont have enough badges to train them.

>>51909289
The new keeper of secrets variant is pretty sweeet. I dont get why eldar greater demons are alway s better than their standard equivilant, must be the wraithbone.

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>put rocket on planform
>use it as ig heavy artillery
y/n?

>>51909350
>The new keeper of secrets variant
Kek. 5/5 bait.

Or alternatively use hunter rocket as that FW anti air manticore platform

Whats the deal with the new SM base size, can anyone explain the deal with them, ruleswise? Like no one seems opposed to playing against incorrect base sizes, in fact ive yet to see anyone have an sm army on entirely sm sized bases- but I want to get back into the tournameny scene and need to know how its ruled there

>>51909448
Use the bases that come in the box and you'll have no problem.

>>51909448

GW literally moved them to 32mm because it looked better. You can still use 25mm if you want and GW said you aren't required to re-base old models with the new size, but GW will no longer provide 25mm bases for marine models.

I don't think a tournament exists where they've required people to use 32mm only for marines, but it's possible. I doubt it will ever happen though, both sizes have their drawbacks.

>>51909525
Can you go over the pros and cons of both?

>>51909319
what does that even mean?

>>51909350
the keeper is pretty decent for it's price and upgrades. i just ran the keeper bare against the ynarnce and the ynarnce came out on top, keeper died it's last 3 wounds to soul blaze for what it's worth.

How's the Visarch? I want to run one with my incubi. Also fuck the craftworlders

>>51909536

32mm Pros:
- More board space occupied and thus board control due to larger footprint.
- Longer conga lines
- Less hits from templates
- Easier to get into assault
- Feet don't hang over the edge if you use squatter legs
- More options from GW plastic scenic bases
- More base room for little decorations and shit
- Looks better to a lot of people
- You will never have to worry about newfags saying 25mm aren't allowed or tournaments banning 25mm marines

Cons:

- Easier to hit with templates, less chance of complete scatter miss
- Harder to hind behind buildings and Rhinos out of LoS
- Much larger footprint when deep striking
- Less models (of the squad) in base to base in assault
- More faggots in base to base smacking you in the face (for characters/challenges)
- Have to buy a whole new army transport because your foam was cut for 25mm and not 32mm
- Tons of empty room on the base if you use standing/running legs
- Less third party scenic base options because companies were making 25mm for decades but only just now started making 32mm bases for 40k
- Some people think they are ugly
- Less old school cred

What's stopping me from modeling my Crisis Suits prone on their base so they can better hide behind cover between JSJ?

>>51909563
The fact that you're too much of a WAAC fag to seriously consider spending the time on model conversions.

>>51909563
Dreadsock.

>>51909548
>what does that even mean?
its essentially a philosophical meme, created by a fellow by a name of Stirner, who was basically just a giant shitposter in the philosophical world, who came up with this idea of spooks, which is the idea that things that stop you from doing what you want to do that arent physical, like the idea of loyalty to a state, laws, or even morals. are like ghosts in your head haunting you and scaring you away from the things that you want to do

>>51909563

The consequences of the negative reactions you get for doing so.

Prone modelling for advantage gimmicks are amusing, but I would never do it unless it was somehow supported officially. This means old metal prone Cadians, doing what GW demonstrates by cutting the Riptide's leg tab and making it kneel, or making an entire chapter of Space Marines using official kneeling leg bits.

But there is no "official support" for prone Crisis Suits. You can't do it unless you purposely go out of your way to chop up the model and make it prone.

>>51909563
The same cover that's protecting you is also blocking your line of sight?
If I can't see you, you can't see me

>>51909586

He said JSJ dude, Tau don't give a shit about that.

>>51909563
the fact that no one will want to play against you. aren't crisis suits the size of terminators anyway?

>>51909569
>>51909570
Yeah, but is it legal?
I don't actually know the rules for that. It sounds logical that at a tournament you'd do everything you can to maximize cover on your guys. Have them prone or crouched, shave millimeters off the base/feet/helmet/arms, extend the barrels on your vehicle's weapons while sanding down their hulls, thinning your paints to absurd levels if not leaving your models totally unpainted, etc.

>>51909548
I use a level 3 keeper in most games, mostly for demon summoning. It tends to make its points back in summoned daemonettes alone most games. To be fair, it only needs to have summoning go off twice to do that(rounding down, ofc.)

>>51909563
Not wanting to be a faggot I would hope. At that point why not just have them all lay down

>>51909594

Tournaments won't allow it. The rulebook doesn't ban it RAW but it's against the RAI of unique conversions. The rulebook only covers conversions that get too big, not ones that get smaller.

If you're worried about legality, then most tournaments aren't going to allow that shit to fly. The TOs do actually inspect shit like that and counts-as armies.

>>51909594
>It sounds logical that at a tournament you'd do everything you can to maximize cover on your guys. Have them prone or crouched, shave millimeters off the base/feet/helmet/arms, extend the barrels on your vehicle's weapons while sanding down their hulls, thinning your paints to absurd levels if not leaving your models totally unpainted, etc.

No one is this much of a faggot

>>51909594
Even if they allow it they're going to make you measure as if they were normal XV8. Makes me wonder how they would go about an army made entirely of official, unmodified prone IG though. Probably also count them as standing for measurements is my guess.

>>51909602
>prone Riptides
>Barracuda's hull glued to the base
>Stormsurges literally laying flat on their backs against the table

>>51909594
Anon, no one's that autistic

>>51907916
I'd be surprised if he broke 400.

Doubt I'll use him much even if he's good, though. If the boss has to solve everything personally it's kind of sad.

>>51909612
>running 150 wounded cadians for a single Emperor's Shield formation
I'd call them the Corpus Company.

>>51908207
I'm guessing they were probably doing Heralds of Ruin + house rules because he was new.

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>nobody actually plays such WAAC armies in real life
>nobody is autistic enough to make crouching models to get out of LoS!
>Tau players aren't really that cancerous in real life

Oh /tg/ when will you learn that memes are real

>>51909563
Nothing other than your apparently non existent conscience.

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>>51909610
>>51909625

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>>51909648
Forgot image.

>>51909656
I know the large guns may be confusing but those are actually eldar models.

>>51909648

IG have legit prone guys like the old metal Catachan sniper.

Thanks for reminding me about the Space Marine casualty figures though. I'm going to name my chapter the Backstrokers.

>>51909669
I know, but I assumed you didn't mean running all snipers. I can't recall any prone lasguns outside of RT though.

>>51909668

I know following more than one sentence is hard for you but that post was discussing three different things, not just Tau.

>>51909558
Well, I lucked out on transports, my sm sheets can fit the 32mm base. I had a sales rep help me pick the foam, they were probably aware of the base size change and gave me appropiate foam as a result. I like space marines being on bigger bases, even if all of mine are standing. Guess its time to find some cool 32mm bases. Any base, so long as its the correct size, is legal, right? Even if made of cardstock and cork?

>>51909699

As long as it's 25mm or 32mm it's fine. Sometimes even larger bases are okay but I wouldn't recommend an entire army of 60mm marines.

>>51909692
>Discussing a WAAC tau player
>Specifically call out Tau
>"Haha what are you talking about this has nothing to do with Tau :)"

0/8 b8 harder next time m8

>>51909661
>Hands the size of a Primarch
>Mitts for the Emperor

What's the go with assassin's? That shooting one looks bretty good. But fuck they are pricey.

>>51909712

Because Tau are constantly specifically called out, but non-Tau armies are also quite obviously capable of being WAAC and having crouched models, what is so hard to understand about that?

>>51909726
t. Butthurt Tau player

>>51909351
Long time ago SW used LR, IG use rhino, commissard jet bike etc...
Do what you fucking want it's yours guy.
If some neckbear nazis fluff said is not legal, tell them during the war of armageddon, the IG used chimera SCS to make some LR, in time of war we take what we need to win. Loosing a Hive forge is worst than make some variant.

>>51909726
What's so hard to understand about me not taking your b8? Don't worry, I'm sure there's some fag hitting ctrl+f "tau" right now who will happily help you shit up yet another thread with pointless tau butthurt from both sides.

>>51909599
gotta be honest, i don't like summoning much and you can almost feel the shift from a casual game when summoning is mentioned

>>51909777
>not taking b8
>responding
>responding with a longass post

Breh

>>51909723
shooty one is arguably the worst
culexus rapes psykers hardcore
callidus is cool for fucking with people and an ap2 flamer
eversor, if he makes combat, will blend anything thats not terminators after bursting through a wall and letting out a WRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY that would make dio jealous
vindicares will get shot to death immediately and make a better distraction carnifex than an actual unit

>>51909785
>one line
>long ass post

Lucky I didn't write two lines. You'd probably think it was a novel.

>>51909792
>Vindicare worse than Eversor

>>51909797
How does that make me lucky?

>>51909809
Because enacting the labor of reading such a LOOOOOONG POOOOOOST BREH! would take away precious time that could be spent sucking your dad's cock.

>>51909591
Closer to Dreadnoughts/Centurions actually. It would look extremely odd

>>51909816
Post was too long didn't read

How the fuck has the Imperium not fallen apart yet? It must be impossibly hard to manage an empire that literally spans the galaxy.

>>51908577

This is a common counter-point, but really a DS'ing shooty unit of any kind is extremely limited in the damage it can do compared to a deep-striking melee one.

A DS'ing shooty unit can only kill one unit a turn, is usually only good against one unit type (infantry or vehicles/MC's) and is completely vulnerable to counter-point on your turn.

By comparison, melee units can charge multiple units at a time, most melee units that murder infantry are also good enough to kill rear-armor and if they don't kill your units in their turn they're stuck in melee and untargetable in yours, and god help you if they manage to sweep your units in your assault phase, because that means they can immediately just charge something else in their turn.

Melee has taken a beating since 5th, but charging from reserves is cancer and the game is better off without it.

I think they need to dump the assault vehicle nonsense and allow you to charge out of all transports so long as it's not turn 1, however.

>>51907862
Why isn't Typhus tougher? He should have eternal warrior. 30 pts. More than Cawl, who is both tougher than the tough disease ball tank and can 1 shot him. He's a 10,000 yr old immortal for fucks sake.

>>51909835
>you can charge out of a pod but not from naked deep strike

Great job

>>51909832
You can thank Malcador for that. He should have been Emperor.

>>51909865
>didn't even last a day on the throne
>HE SHULDA BEEN EMPERDER

>>51909879
>Psychic power is the only prerequisite for being Emperor
If someone as intelligent as Malcador was in charge, Magnus would probably have never ended up exploding the webway like an idiot.

>>51909890

When the Warmaster was downgraded from the Emperor to Horus, look at the clusterfuck that happened. And now you'd rather downgrade it even further to Malcador? Why don't we just make Ollanius Pius the Emperor?

>>51909890
sup /tg/

ask me anything.

one question.

i won't show you my lance tho

>>51909846

In that situation you'd still be attempting to charge from reserves, which is a no-no.

Nice try though :')

>>51909865
more like thank Guilliman for that

After dumb and dumber got their asses fried he built the imperium to last.

>>51909899
>allow you to charge out of all transports so long as it's not turn 1
>is drop pod a transport?
>did it come in on turn 2 or later as part of the second wave?

If yes to both, occupants can assault as per your own criteria.

>>51909896
It wasn't entirely Horus that fucked up now though was it? It was Lorgar because he got upset at being humiliated by the Emperor, something that Malcador was against.

>>51909906

Malcador better be the one you're calling Dumber or you're gonna get what's coming to you

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>>51909906
Are you talking shit about my mother?

Have some respect.

>>51909906
And then Guilliman promptly got his ass fried by Fulgrim.

>>51909913

That sounds like Lorgar was the problem. Why blame the Emperor for Lorgar's faggotry? Herp derp guess we shouldn't rile up the SJWs and just let them do their own thing even though they're fucking WRONG and should be purged, right Malcador?

>>51909922
>He would have healed if his idiot space marines hadn't put him in stasis
How fucking stupid are ultramarines?

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>>51909922
Who?

love my mom tho

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>>51909929
This stupid.

Whatever that means, you figure out.

>>51909928
Lorgar would have been the Emperor's most loyal, he could have commanded him to do anything. Instead he humiliated Lorgar and destroyed one of his greatest accomplishments.

Then he let Lorgar have free reign over 1/18th of his crusade forces.

gg emperor.

>>51909948

Nobody wants the weakest primarch as their most loyal.

>>51909907
All you'd have to do is include a line saying "a unit can't charge on the turn it arrives from deepstrike" and the "unit can charge from any vehicle" would not overrule that, if you really need to cover the autists just include "if the unit would normally be able to do so" or something.

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>>51909948

>>51909955
>implying you wouldn't have a bunch of retards still not getting it even if you did that

No, you better release a vague Facebook FAQ for that shit.

>CAN YOU USE YARRICK AS YOUR HQ FOR MILITARUM TEMPESTUS?

>>51909950
>Oh yeah I better publicly humiliate Magnus as well and ban all psychic powers without explaining why

>Oh and I should teleport Angron away while he's doing shit and then feed him his own legionaires until he hates me

>Oh and I should probably dump my life's work on my *favorite* son and then run the fuck away without telling him why

>Whopharius? Oh right those two. Nah I don't really have time to talk to them, just send them a gift basket and 100,000 legionaires.

Yeah no, stop being a fag and realize how politically retarded The Emperor was.

>>51909973
To be fair you'll almost always have that. There's questions everywhere of people asking if you can charge out of a lucius pattern drop pod on the turn it arrives.

The FAQ has it's share of questions asked by mouth breathers.

>>51909987
>blaming the Emperor for every Primarchs' failings

Lol. Why not credit all the successful ones to him too then? Seriously? You blame the Emperor for Angron about to die on the planet he failed to conquer?

>>51909780
Im playing a mono slaanesh army, so long I put that restraint on myself I feel free to any other abilities in my arsenal. Ive fought far too many tervigons to feel bad about summoning some demons.

>>51909987
>Oh and I should teleport Angron away while he's doing shit and then feed him his own legionaires until he hates me

Wasn't Angron making a final stand where he would have probably died anyways? It was either leave him there to die or teleport him away and hope he gets over it.

>>51910007
>hope he gets over it.

That's the Emperor's real mistake. Thinking his sons weren't autistic retards.

>>51909987
>without explaining why
he did explain why
magnus just couldn't accept it and went full retard

>>51910007
Or teleport down his cadre of golden murder machines to either stop the fight or help Angron. How about that?

>>51910021
>stop the fight

You're retarded if you think that would work/wouldn't result in the same emo faggotry.

>>51910021
He was hell bent on going out in a blaze of glory with his fellow rebels. It still would have probably resulted in some massive inferiority complex where he would always be pissy about "being saved" by the Emperor.

>>51910029
>...or help Angron
It's easy to argue when you ignore half my post.

>>51909726
>Because Tau are constantly specifically called out,

Tau are specifically called out because they're the only faction that is exclusively about shooting AND get JSJ, meaning that they benefit by far the most from it. I could model a prone Loota and it's going to provide me little benefit because he can't see shit if I do that.

How would I go about allying skitarii/mechanicus with millitarum tempestus?

>>51909999
brave man, i tried that for a while and still do when i'm doing incursion. how are those chariots working for you?

>>51910111
Use the Tempestus for deep striking melta?

>>51910111
>add a detachment of skitarri and/or mechanicus to your militarum tempestus army
>that's the only step
>???
I dunno boss

>>51910135
survive, adapt win.

vigilo confido.

>>51907896
>>51907885
>>51908273

So where can I find this template?

>>51910185
OP

>>51907904
>He doesn't have a Lion's Blade
>He doesn't understand truly knowing no fear

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>>51910185

Every thread

The worst part is that its so innocent that I can't even tell if it's bait

>>51910045
>50% of my post was retarded but the other half wasn't so therefore it wasn't retarded!

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How about a game?

I'm putting together a Tau list for later today. But instead of building the list myself, I'm gonna employ the help of /40kg/! How does that sound?

Reply with a model, unit, or formation and I'll add it in. Feel free to include wargear, or to add wargear onto already existing units. I'm aiming for 1850, but I'm sure they won't mind if I go a few points over.

I've started you off with a CAD and Commander. Tell me what to bring to casuals today!

>>51910324
>Tell me what to bring to casuals today!

A rope to hang yourself for being tau to casuals.

What is the purpose of a feudal world?

>>51910324
KROOT

Everyone loves kroot. Give them hounds and kroot gorillas.

>>51910324
four riptide wings

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>>51910324

>>51910335
Bodies, maybe space marine recruits, minerals.

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>>51910331
>>51910340
>>51910343
So far so good! We're almost halfway there.
The list is looking fun so far.

>>51909792

>Eversors
>Doing anything

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>>51907901
A hand written apology in every tyranid codex from you know who, admitting he had no fucking idea what he was doing and that he also doesn't understand why he was allowed to keep his job AND go to round 2 with the nids

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My last game.. Maximum carnage

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>>51910380
And another

>>51909996

>You blame the Emperor for Angron about to die on the planet he failed to conquer?

How can you not? Emps could easily have had his army intervene and save Angron AND his comrades, but seeing as he his utterly incapable of anything resembling a smart move he chose to abandon Angron's comrades and was too much of an autistic fuckwit to comprehend how that might not endear Angry Ron to him.

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>>51910387
Last one

>>51910380
>>51910387
>>51910398
>pebbles all over the table
just because they do it on tabletop tactics doesnt mean it'll look good when you do it

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My dynasty took a hard hit from a particularly rowdy mob of boys yesterday. It started out promising enough, with my Wraiths destroying two trukks by the second round. But as soon as the Meganobs got out of their transports everything went wrong.

My Overlord got cornered very quickly and accepted a challenge from the Warboss, who he thought would be no great challenge. How wrong he was.

>>51910410
I follow striking scorpion m8y

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>>51910419

How interesting!

>>51909777
>I'm sure there's some fag hitting ctrl+f "tau" right now
What kind of sorcery is this?

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K, gimme a hand here. Is this list even remotely competitive?

>>51909799
Yes

>>51909661
I like IG, but wish the models didn't look like they had birth defects.

>>51910435
Dump the melee weapons on the vanguard alphas. Take a Omniscient Mask on one of the Sicarians.

Thinking about running this, Sky Ray should be good enough for most vehicles right?

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>>51910461
Guess it would help if I posted a picture

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>>51910419
The Overlord didn't stand a chance. In one round of fighting the Boss had added the metal man's skull to his boss pole.

Amidst the carnage a great monolith rose from the ground, ready to sear green flesh. But the collosal machine had only enough time to fire off a few deterring shots at the remaining trukks before it was quickly overwhelmed and shredded by the nobs.

With their leader and heavy armour incapacitated, the Warriors and Crypteks were lost, with two units quickly breaking ranks and fleeing off the edge of the battlefield as the master cursed their cowardice from atop the Warboss' pike.

>>51910460
thanks
it's not worth using melee on alphas?
usually I run the omniscient mask on infiltrator princeps, but I thought I should try the phase taser, since infs' aura reduces init. so mask on ruststalker should be fine then

>>51910475
straya cunt

>>51910419
>>51910475
(Whoops, sorry for the upside down pics by the way. I'm posting from my phone.)

>>51910496
I actually am though. That might be the reason, lol.

>>51910475

Hey I recognize those shots! Thanks again for the game mate; the Bullyboyz were a lot more brutal than I thought they'd be, though if we'd remembered about Wraiths having Rending a few more of them might have gone down. Those damn ones on the right flank held me up for ages; Reanimation with a 3++ invul is tough to get through!

>>51910496

Heh, well we both are from Australia (Brisbane to be exact)

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Hey guys,

So, I've started a Deathwatch army, and I've loaded it up with almost every gimmick available.

I was just wondering, what is your opinion of the Corvus Blackstar? I think it looks bad ass, and I was thinking of using it to transport my Vanguard Veterans.

Is this a good idea, or a stupid idea?

>>51910470
>Sky Ray should be good enough for most vehicles right?
Sort of. S8 is okay against light armor, but the real issue is AP3 meaning you can't instantly pop things. It also means you'll realistically only get 1-3 Wounds on an MC before running dry, but at 500 points that shouldn't be an issue. The markerlight is a boon, though.
You could swap it out for a Hammerhead with Submunitions as a good allcomer.
Devilfish is mad overcosted, especially when you splurge on upgrades like that. If you drop the gear off the Devilfish and Sky Ray, you could afford another Strike Team or a Crisis Suit. I'd recommend just dropping the Devilfish completely considering your point limit.

>>51910494
More shooting is generally preferable on the vanguards than the hope that you'll survive long enough to actually hit back. In my experience they either get shot to shit if they aren't camping in cover or die before they get to strike back. May as well make the dedicated melee elites better in melee first.

>>51910511
Yeah, it was a really fun game. I'll be waiting for the chance to get some revenge against your boss.

>>51910526
yeah, okay, makes sense.
how about giving arc pistol to the alpha in the unit with arc rifles?
or stick with radium carbine?

>>51907940
I think you mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRTp2WGXfdk

>>51910548
Depends on how balls deep you want to go with dedicating the unit to killing vehicles. It would make them able to dish out more haywire hits but do less damage against infantry.

>>51910514
The Blackstar is nothing to laugh at IMO. It's hardy enough, and can pack enough of a punch to stay alive long enough for a drop off, and it becomes a real mean source of anti-air afterwards.

>>51907901
i'm hoping some csm kits will get updated.
also, ork buffs.
that's all i want from this next edition.

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>>51910553

>>51910356
>Hang yourself
>Twisted corpse
Oh, anon.
Throw in a couple of Railsides if you have them. Always liked their silhouette.

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>>51907901
I want the necrons to stay the same and not get ruined.

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This is my 2k points list for Inner Circle. Do you think this will look good?

I had thought about one variant list that drops the sorcerer's bike and puts him in the rhino with the CQC marines and drops melta bombs from the biker champ, in favor of adding 1 mastery level.

>>51910559
yeah. I don't know. I'm trying to come up with a list for a tournament I hope to go to in 2 months, so I have to finish a whole bunch of models for that. That's why I need a list first. And omnissiah knows what I'll play against

>Guilliman gets to Terra, meets with High Lords and starts setting up the defense against Aba
>To everyone's surprise Janus shows up
>He explains that 13th is just as planned to deal with actual problem
>Emperor is about to die, and there is one person who can his place on the Throne and stop another Eye from opening
>And Janus alone can redeem Magnus the Red

You know it's gonna happen.

>>51910581
Necrons are fine as they are. I doubt GW will fuck with them.

>>51907901
>eldar and tau nerfs
lmao not happening

>>51910586
what did you use to make this?

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>>51910560

Awesome. Thanks for that.

I guess it makes sense to run one. It's a really good fluff piece, if anything.

>>51910612
To be fair you've got quite a lot that can hurt vehicles already between two arc rifles, two transuranic arquebus', two squads of kataphrons with grav (each of which will be firing 18 grav shots), and the neutron heavy laser. Take the pistol if you want to but I doubt not having it will make or break you.

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>>51910670
READ THE FUCKING OP

>>51910581
It would be fun to get Pariah back.

>>51910667

>lmao not happening

Everyone is calling for it. The only people who aren't, play Eldar or Tau.

They've had a good run, and it's about time that they get to sit around the middle tier. Which is more than they deserve.

>>51910720
Yeah. I'm happy with the Necrons right now, but if they had to change something I wouldn't mind getting some anti-psychic units.

>>51910721
As long as SM get the beat stick, I'm fine

>>51910721
>The only people who aren't, play Eldar or Tau
The kicker is that a lot of people play Tau and Eldar. The business model will shift to powercreep updates in order to keep models selling as they bring in new customers.

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>>51910676
Awesome Duncan bruh

i'd let duncan dunk me if you know what i mean

>>51910772
He would do a fine job with you.

>>51910772
St Duncan is the best. I want to take him out for dinner and a movie.

>>51910695
you're right, thanks. do you think the rest of the list is okay enough not to be stomped on regular basis? :D

>>51910796
>>51910803
do you think he would wash me with his nuln oil?

>>51910847
Yea it should be fine. Since you've got two months you may be able to get everything built at least and can always try it out in a casual game or two.

>>51910854
I believe that Agrax Earthshade is his favourite.

>>51910866
cool, thanks for the advice

>>51907901
Drop pods for chaos marines

>>51910918

Even the non CSM in my group can't understand why CSM don't have pods.

>>51910758
He looks like such a bro

>>51910918
as a sm player i want this, or at least some chaos equivalent.

like a warp rift that opens (guided like a drop pod) and allows safe ds for dudes, but disappears after one turn. only costing like 10pts.

or just drop pods.

>>51910525
On the plus side if you happen to encounter a flyer or FMC, you have a skyray.

>>51910993
That's basically what the webway key is.

For 35 points you give a unit and their transport deepstrike and they don't scatter when they use it.

If i'm using the mindveil should i even bother with a dreadclaw for my melta chosen? The main issue is that the sorcerer can't infiltrate with them unless he's got the warlord trait for it.

>playing a 1000p game with a friend IGvsCSM
>near the end of the game, his chaos lord&buddies charge my platoon command squad
>my platoon commander is supposed to use a power weapon, and incredibly fell a pair of csm
>friend declares a challenge, i have a power sword and his lord only has one wound left, so why the fuck not?
>check on battlescribe, i forgot to add the powersword, shit
>friend is cool with me being 15 points over, and just says "lets pretend that it malfunctioned"
>actually menage to kill the chaos lord without the power sword


now im painting this mini, and im thinking... Should i put a badly severed CSM head on the base to remember the day this random officer chopped a chaos lord with a dull blade ISIS style?

>>51911335
Goes without saying. Get one from his bits box the next time you see him.

>>51907904
>unless you're orks I imagine being reduced to BS1 sucks

Never undstood this argument. Sure it affects us "less" in the sense that we're already so fucking shit at shooting we may as well have the phase removed, but its still a reduction.

You don't look at a guy with 1 leg and say losing that leg isn't as bad as a guy with two leg losing both of his.

>>51911447
Especially when the guy with two legs has a way to put on some mechanical robotic legs and get his walking ability back again...

>>51911335

which chaos marines does your friend play?

New player here with a question. I'm using battlescribe and it won't allow me to add formations to my list in addition to my CAD. I was sure that was something you were allowed to do, but am I not? I'd rather be confirmed wrong than just assume I am and potentially miss out.

>>51911562
you can. either you have to add a separate force for that formation or see if you have additional options in "uncategorised" section. which army and what formation are you trying to use? also, desktop or mobile battlescribe?

>>51911591
Space marines and its the desktop. I will admit I still don't have the greatest handle on where everything is in this program, still can't find the wrathful crusade formation. Whenever I can actually get it to add space marine formations to my forces list, nothing is actually added to the sidebar.

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>New player
>Go to my shop to look at a tournament of 2v2s
>Expect some fun match, from what I could see there's no WAACfag here
>See a team of two very weird dudes, easily spottables skinny lanky nerds
>One has an army consisting of 3 traitor Knights
>The other has an army of Khornate daemons
>mfw

That's what I get for being naive. At least they keep those armies for tournaments, but damn.

>>51911621
afaics, it's not in there for whatever reason. or I just can't find it

>>51911506
depends on his mood, he has a homebrew warband. Usually he goes for standard codex, night lords or death guard

>>51911763
Well, that sucks. Though, when I tried to open battlescribe just now it had an update and now i'm not having that formation problem anymore? I doubt it was the update, but maybe my install was just off. Regardless, thanks for the help.

>>51911821
np. you can try and contact the people who work on the repository, here: https://github.com/BSData/wh40k

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Will they release a Custodes supplemente or something like that?

I've always loved theyr praetorian guard style and aesthetic.

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Hey /tg/ what are you sexy anons up to today? I'm continuing my batrep from my Apocalypse game yesterday and might just do a massive image dump for today. Do you lads have any army pics or stories of your dudes to share too?

>>51911447
You lose 50% of your shooting whereas other armies lose 80%. If there was a curse that lowered a unit to T2, it would clearly shit on Space Marines more than Guard precisely because marines had better toughness to begin with.

>>51911715
What? Yeah, 3 knights are strong, but khorne, that not even meta.

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>>51911953
So turn three like I promised turned into a massive clusterfuck. We finally managed to get the Raven Guard commander and his Marines into the rear of the enemy and we had people dropping Dreadnoughts all over the place. And the rest of the Crimson Fists came in.It was pretty beautiful /tg/ seeing the forces of the Imperium join the fight even if it was at a slow pace. We managed to kill a bunch of Grey Knights, even some Eldar which was amazing and a whole mass of Nids.

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>>51912099
Some more of our Space Marine reinforcements. Once again the Guard do the dying and the Marines get all the glory

>>51911953
>Do you lads have any army pics or stories of your dudes to share too?
I fucking wish.
I either bring a Riptide/Stormsurge and dominate to the point of every story being
>and then his whole army blew up and no one had fun
Or I don't bring those and my Crisis Suits/Fire Warriors/Sniper Drones job for five turns straight

>>51912099

whats with that big ass tape measure

>>51912155
On second look that is a suspiciously large tape measure.

>>51912155
>>51912179
It's for big guys.

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>>51912117
On there turn three shit got even more fucked for us. They called up their Ork bro who dropped a Stompa and outflanked with a bunch of Orks and Ork walkers. And the Eldar and more Orks were focused on the rear of their board and all of the Stormtroopers and Space Marines still alive. The Orks outflanked to hit my rear armor but thankfully didn't do anything in shooting against them and most of the Nid deepstrikers were wiped out before they could do anything.

>>51910586
Do you insist on taking combat familiars? They aren't really worth it.

>>51912099
>battle cannon with sponsons
ree

I got an idea to buff word bearers. Give every character the maximum number of gifts they can take for free. Its fluff and makes possesed and warp talons more attractive, because they can take 2 for each sargent.

What do you think?

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>>51912209
Thankfully turn four we finally got our shit together and the Space Marines finally took part in the game. The Raven Guard butchered through about two full units of Boyz. My Demolisher plus Pask turned around and with the help of some battle cannons killed all of the Ork walkers. Rough Riders charged in to a unit of Raveners and wiped them out. And after a round of shooting from the Vanquisher the Knight charged in and killed some Grey Knights. A few more units of Gaunts were killed by Guard shooting. Then finally I charged the Orks with my Guardsman blob then got Soulburst and charged by the Avatar. Fucking Eldar

>>51912256
It was the most effective vehicle of the game anon. Always got direct hits and the sponsons helped with thinning out the Horde of Tyranids advancing across the table.

So, here are the chaos models I currently own (basically a single Dark Vengeance set, double up on the Chosen). Where do I go in expanding my force to 1000 points, 1500 points, and 1850 points.
I'm 100% new to Chaos, but I've been playing 40k since 4th. Yes, I'm running them as Slaanesh dudes.

>>51912299
You snapshot with snapshots, the fuck are you talking about. One even have plasma sponsons.

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>>51912307
Forgot pic

>>51912315
meant you snapshot with battle cannon

so is black templar vs ultrasmurfs confirmed for 40k endtimes oooooor?

>every sniper weapon only wounds on a 4+
>BS 5 Sniper units ridiculously rare
How do we fix both of these?

>>51912318
Get some Rhinos, another Helbrute, and maybe a squad of noise marines.

>>51907901
for the Orks to not get one of the earlier Codices, therefore preventing power creep