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Low Effort. Edition.

>>51885955

>Rules archive, Use Readium/Kobo for epubs
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA

>40k rules reference in wiki format.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQ
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>EZ-read picture-book list builder
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>Battlescribe list builder, warts and all
https://battlescribe.net/

>Forge World rules Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>The Black Library
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
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>>51890601
First for the Dark Eldar! Long live the Eternal City!
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First for the first born!
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First for pls update 20 year old Cadian kits
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STEEL RAIN
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>Aeldari
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>>51890610
Ya need to play Ynneed instead.
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Finished reading the rules today. Heres my first army. Is it viable for 1000 point games?
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Just recently been thinking about getting back into game. Is there any hope for GW or should I NOT?
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>>51890639
>Astra Militarium
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Reminder to play what you want, fuck what anyone thinks works just DO IT
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>>51890644
This is my Ynnari list.
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>>51890601
>Unpainted crap, shit terrain.

You may as well just use cardboard circles as minis at that point.
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Thread needs more of best regiment
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>>51890655
Up to you.

Models are a matter of taste
Community varies
Game is largely shot to shit.
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>>51890655
Just do it, what's a few grand anyway?
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>>51890674
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>>51890656
>aeldaqueer thinks a latin name is nearly as bad as something taken from a tumblr fanfiction
TOP KEK
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>>51890655
buy a squad or vehicle at a time and paint it to display quality. that way you get good milage out of the hobby instead of rush-painting an entire army. play small games and sound out the community as you go, and if it turns out not to be what you want you still have a small, fully painted display force / killteam
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>>51890664
If you're just trying to fill out min troops requirements Rangers would be a bit more useful, 5 man naked K. Warriors do basically nothing.
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What kind of AoS improvement would you like to see in 8e?
>INB4 none REEE get out
You know it's coming so it's better to inure
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>>51890698

How do you find these reaction pics?
Do you just have a folder of laughing cats?
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>>51890698
>He thinks that's real latin
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>>51890676
I was more thinking of the cost

>>51890677
games, alcohol, food

>>51890699
Yeah that might be sound advice, but also i could potentially find a different miniatures wargame. Do you think prices are going to drop under the new regime?
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>>51890698
>he thinks pseudo latin is better than Aeldari
lel
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>>51890719
Nothing in the stats, that's for damn sure.

"To Wound' fucking disgusting.
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>>51890698
Truth. Astra Militarum is a little clunky, and reeks of IP lawyering, but at least it sounds like it's had some effort put in. Aeldari is like the sort of names that a 14-year-old comes up with (Elvii, Dwarvun, etc.) when they're making babby's first fantasy world, so that they can pretend their generic fantasy races aren't generic without actually doing anything to make them distinct.
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>>51890674
Not non-canon females though.
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>>51890737
no. if anything they're opting for more highly-detailed, higher-costed kits. at least in sigmar, you have five infantry 'blight kings' for $93. i think the swing is towards a lower model count at premium prices.
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>>51890719
AOS is actually half decent after battletomes got a codex style format last august and got points assigned. I'd go for the keywords if anything else
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>>51890698
>It's a latin name so it has to be good
Nice complexes m8
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>>51890590
2d3 S9 hits on the charge, they knocked over a bloodthirster once.

>>51890603
s5 assault 3 guns, pinning blasts aka ghetto assault grenades and rending claws. they're good on paper.
They fucked up a terminator squad once who thought they wouldn't dare charge them but... most of the time they do kinda just draw a shitload of missle/lascannon fire.
They've got a nice 3+ cover save from the venomthropes so they do kinda sometimes survive.

Gaunts never did too much but they're really good in getting in the way of the enemy.
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>>51890744
what if units got a flat +/- modifier to "to wound" to represent "toughness" on top of their save
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>>51890719

>Formation tax
>Save modifiers
>Characters cannot join units
>Copy-paste AoS magic to current psychic phase mess
>Every unit has fixed hit/wound rolls
Haven't a fucking clue how they would do vehicles though.
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>>51890732
>he thinks it's worse than something straight out of a tumblr fanfiction
>this is what homosexuals actually believe
lmao
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>>51890744
I agree... AND I'm A SIGMAR PLAYER!! XDXDXDxDxdXd
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>>51890719
>AoS
>improvement

Only the keywords aren't a straight dive.
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>Eldyr
Fixed, now Eldar are IPoble and not gay.
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>>51890639
>>51890698
>>51890783
There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.


I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a like girl as you once again type your little AELDARI post up and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass, so you just choose the picture. Oh, and we all know the picture. The "epic" laughing cheetah, isn't it? I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on 4chan posting about a stupid faction rename. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand, and then you became a NEET. A pathetic cheetahposting NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is "AELDARI AELDARI LMAO." You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be.


Forever...
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>>51890719
As long as they don't turn the fucking names and lore into IP-driven, adjective/adverb-spamming Saturday morning cartoon joke garbage like with AoS.

I like my Cadian Shock Troops with their lasguns and frag grenades, I don't want Cadian Militarum-Vengeancers with hellfyre lasfusils and tempestfrag explosors.
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>>51890654
Go back to age of smegmar
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>>51890777
Then why the fuck not just have S and T?

The SvT chart is the simplest fucking thing in the game.
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>>51890794
>Eldyr
That somehow managed to be even worse.
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>>51890782
>>Every unit has fixed hit/wound rolls

get the fuck out
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>>51890817
Eldyradi
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>>51890701
It's from what I actually have. I doubt my nuds would mind me using some Kabs as Rangers, though.
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>>51890749

I thought it was "Vostroyan firstborn", not "Vostroyan first-no-girls-allowed-born".
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>>51890742
>so homosexual he's okay with the name
>so assravaged he defends that faggot name
>Aeldari

>>51890763
>m-maybe i-if move the g-goalposts he will make it stop!
ayy lmao
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>>51890805
Why would GW want to change 40k names like this? AoS names fit the current lore and fantasy setting m8. Don't be salty cry-baby
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Will the next Dark Eldar codex be Codex Eldar: Camorragh or Codex Eldar: Dark?
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>>51890846
>not Codex: Adarki Aeldari
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>>51890654
Never mind that cunt. Was just about to reply to you on the old thread - you've actually got the models for this list, anon, fair play, better than most of the lists posted here. If I was to make one change it'd be that I'd swap the second mastery level on the GUO for a Locus of Fecundity in the Herald.
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>>51890817
Yldaear
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>>51890834
Firstborn sons you plebe.
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>>51890798
>being this anally anihilated
>tfw i triggered an Aeldari player so hard he writes a full wall of text-projection
My sides have been reborn as a Chaos God.
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Slutwhores are trash
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>>51890858
Yldæar
great thing is that æ is pronounced the same as 'e'
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>>51890856
OK, I could see how that'd come in handy. Its a prince too.
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>>51890823

>"pls don't take away my bloated ruleset where weapon skill is a worthless stat, toughness abuse shuts down unprepared armies and units < BS4 are a joke!"
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Aeldari Banshee ass or Eldar Banshee ass?
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>>51890846
no Codex in 8th
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>>51890846
DRUKARI: ADARKI AELDARI
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>>51890838
>Why would GW want to change 40k names like this?
Licensing, my dear boy.

>AoS names fit the current lore and fantasy setting
That says more about the quality of the writing than anything. Why can't a sword in AoS just be a fucking sword? Why does everything need to be SOOPAR EPIK?

Like many things in AoS, it reeks of tryhardism.

>>51890846
Isn't their new in-universe name Drukhari?
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>>51890901
>wanting to fuck a xenos
Ew anon.
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>Visit a /40kg/ first time since january
>Anons are taking some shitty big-cat bait
What the fuck, just ignore this idiot
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>>51890601
why get into the hobby if you're gonna cut out 50% of it(the painting)
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Baiting for Rating
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Rate my list:


++ AdM War Convocation (1845 pts) ++


Battle Maniple (855pts)

Skitarii Rangers (120pts)
> Ranger Alpha; Refractor Field
> 1x - Skitarii Ranger; Omnisprex
> 3x - Skitarii Ranger; Plasma Caliver

Skitarii Vanguards (100pts)
> Vanguard Alpha; Refractor Field
> 1x - Skitarii Vanguard; Omnisprex
> 3x - Skitarii Vanguard; Plasma Caliver

Ironstrider Ballistarii (110pts)
> 2x - Ironstrider Ballistarius; Twin-linked cognis lascannon

Onager Dunecrawlers (180pts)
2x - Onager Dunecrawler; Cognis heavy stubber, Cognis manipulator, Icarus Array, Mindscanner probe

Sicarian Ruststalkers (160pts)
> 1x - Ruststalker Princeps; Digital weapons, Infoslave Skull, Refractor Field

Sicarian Infiltrators (185pts)
> 1x - Infiltrator Princeps; Digital weapons, Infoslave Skull, Refractor Field


Cult Mechanicus Battle Congregation (555 pts)

+ HQ +

Tech-Priest Dominus (105pts) [Digital weapons, Eradication ray, Infoslave Skull, Macrostubber, Refractor field, Uncreator Gauntlet]

+ Troops +

Kataphron Destroyers (165pts)
> 3x - Kataphron Destroyer; Cognis flamer, Plasma culverin

Kataphron Destroyers (165pts)
> 3x - Kataphron Destroyer; Cognis flamer, Plasma culverin

+ Fortification +

Haemotrope Reactors (120pts) [3x Pair of Haemotrope Reactors]


Oathsworn Detachment (435pts)

+ Lord of War +

Cerastus Knight-Atrapos (435pts); Occular Augmetics
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>>51890899
>toughness abuse shuts down unprepared armies and units

What?

And how is S v. T bloated? It's the most basic thing in the game besides maybe movement.
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>>51890935
>>51890909
wut
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>>51890897
Sorry! Saw that and forgot it in the movement from one thread to another. Yeah, the Locus can make a Herald stupidly hard to kill as he can just swan in and out of squads as they get whittled down. He'll make it to CC if he doesn't get sniped.
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>>51890939
The Emperor loves xenos.
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>>51890601
Did they remove the trees from those wood bases for convenience, or did they just not have any craters to use?
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>>51890943
painting is like 80%
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>>51890935
>Why does everything need to be SOOPAR EPIK?
Welp, I see no problem in naming a sword as a "warblade".
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>>51890673
>>51890943
The reason I chose that picture is because it's the picture for Wikipedia page entry for 40k as an example of the hobby.
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>>51890980
That's why he had them kill by the billions, wasn't it?
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>>51890942
Greater idiots than he have been taking this bait for a few weeks now. No wonder he's still laughing.
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>>51891000
It was an accident, a simple misunderstanding.
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>>51890942
/tg/ is the easiest board on 4chan to troll.

It's like they know it's bait but their neurotic nature just wont let them leave it alone.
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>>51890719
free rules
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>>51891015
>the whole great crusade was an accident
This is what elfqueers actually believe.
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>>51890899
I really tried to like AoS but I just couldn't.
>hits on 4s, wounds on 3s
>hits on 3s, wounds on 4s
It all seems so pointless and arbitrary.

At least toughness is supposed to be relative.
Like, 3 is normal toughness but you see an IG special character with toughness 4 and you say "Wow, he's as tough as a space marine!".
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>>51890876
>great thing is that æ is pronounced the same as 'e'
I think the pronunciation depends on context. The English IPA guide says it's like a short A, like in 'pad', but then you see it in words like archæology, where it's more like the long E in 'eel'.

It's part of what throws me about 'Aeldari', I just want to pronounce it as 'EEHL-dari'
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>>51891093
Fire a cannon at a goblin and a dragon, 2+ to wound both.
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>>51891044
>implying that humanity isn't an accient
>can't even stop most of their fucking psykers from going nuts and summoning daemons all over the place
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>>51891113
An Aeldari freshly slaughtered and filleted by the Adeptus Cookinertanus
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>>51891128
You get the same thing in 40k to be fair.
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>>51891133
>says the race so homosexual that they literally created the god of faggotry
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>>51891172
2+ to wound a wraithlord and a snotling?
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>>51890955

>Monster mash lists
>Majority toughness abuse
>T3 hero explodes to a stray multilaser shot, unless you pay for EW
>150-point hero gets challenged out by a monstrous creature and 1-spotted before their initiative step
>Fucking Iron arm
It's disheartening to see some asswipe run a Riptide against a guy who has a couple of AP2 guns in his whole army and get tabled because he needs to fish for 6s with all his guns, which then goes to a 2+ save *then* a FnP roll.
I can't get a pickup game without having at least 8 plasma/Melta guns in every list.
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>>51891128
To be fair, it ends up being the with grots and hive tyrants vs lascannons.

But at least in 40k you can get situations where a unit is so tough it may not be just a 2+ and you can see why, it's a 2+ because the weapon's strength is so strong!

In AoS it will always be just a 2+, for no other reason than it's a 2+ weapon.
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>>51891178
>they literally created the god of faggotry

Twice.
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>>51890867
Oh did your ban expire? Let me fix that for you.
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>>51891189
Str 10 will do it. Most of the time toughness doesn't get much higher than 6 though, so you're wounding on 2's with majority of anti tank weapons.
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>>51891215
>m-mods h-help!!! he is ruining my safe space!!!
>Aeldari
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>>51891224
Sad shit is when a not!space marine wounds both on a 3+
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>>51891211
Top kek!

>tfw ran out of cheetahs
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>>51891215
please help mods, autistic spastics aren't spamming the general about their $50 a pop metal dolls
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>>51890942
And here we are, yet another idiot feeding the troll.
>>51891215

>>51891207
Only one riptide?
Post your list, every army has at least something that they can use to take down a riptide.
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>>51891245
I mean it wouldn't work in 40k due to vehicles, but AoS just deals with it with wounds.
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>>51891211
Nah. They created the god of faggotry the first time. The second, they created a swirling vortex of energy that just so happens to be a god of faggotry.

How many times do you guys think GW will steal and re-steal the swirling vortex of doom/death/magic/deathmagic of doom idea from their own Nagash model, before they get tired of it?
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>gathering storm 3 will take all the focus entirely away from xenos
>and entire book of blue marines killing traitors like dogs
I can't wait
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>>51891151
Damn, now I want some homosexual space elf seafood.
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>>51891207

I just play against friends in which there is a Knights player (now apparently ((((Forces of the Imperium))))), a Tau player, and a Yellow Space Marines player. I'm IG and I'd love to play a dudes list, but I can't even draw up something competitive that doesn't include a vendetta and some lemons. The only alternative I found was to bring the Wyrdvane Coven and summon demons to replace the dudes I lose
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>>51891207
those are issues with the lists and models, not S v T, there would be just as much abuse with the shittier 'to wound' rules.
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>>51891303

>and entire book of wannabe-traitor marines killing other traitor marines
ftfy
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All you Skyhammer Gravspammers, Tau Triptide Twinks, & Elfaggots cried whole mines' worth of salt about how GSC was going to be super-broken & easy/autopilot as though D-flamers/Scatbikes aren't, nor T1 Grav Devastators, nor suitspam:

They've taken very few tournaments, & didn't break top 10 @LVO.

Kek. I'll take your apologies now in the form of butt-blastedness.
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>>51891309
>(((Forces of the Imperium)))
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i am a scrub and am bad at life, does anyone have a non crappy copy of the deathwatch codex hidden in their sleeve?
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>>51891331
>implying cypher isn't a real human bean and a real hero of the imperium
>implying donating blood to the grey knights is a traitorous act
>implying bobby G money and his blue man group are anything but the most justice
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>>51891303
I want a 'Fallen Angels' Chapter tactics.
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>>51891337
It's /pol/ shit, he's implying it has something to do with Jews.
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>>51890674
Okay
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>>51891363
>>51891370
Any guesses on Cypher's rules? Will he finally get an inv save?
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>>51891380
what?
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>>51891383
I kinda hope he gets rules for picking individual models out like a vindicare, but who knows. Celestine shows they're willing to tweak existing rules a bit so anything's possible.
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>>51890698
I want to know what is funny about it. I want to laugh at them too
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>>51891397
The inner parenthesis represent the Jews' subversion of the home [and] destruction of the family through mass-media degeneracy. The next parenthesis represents the destruction of the nation through mass immigration, and the outer parenthesis represents international Jewry and world Zionism
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>>51890719
Pretty much all of it I want. I'm not ashamed to say it. AoS is a superior game.
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>>51891252

Roughly what I bring on game night.
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>>51891435
deepest lore, really got the ol' noggin' joggin'.
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>>51891435
Holy shit go back to the cess/pol/ you cheetah faggot
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>>51891382
>cant draw from holster

would not operate with

probably why they are all dead now
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>>51891435
Fuck off /pol/.
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>>51890698
i just want you to know that i support you and you are correct
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>>51891451
(((triggered)))
it's a joke you dumb faggot

>>51891443
why the enginseer? Not that I have a problem with it
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>>51891380
>It's /pol/ shit

It's actual Jew shit. It's how they would signal something was Jewish on social media.
/pol/ just noticed and bent it towards its own end.
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>>51891451
>>51891461
Shit guys, I was just answering his question, not sharing my own beliefs
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>>51890613
I want to build an army of them so much. What would be fluffy unit choices for them given they work in urban/winter environments?
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remember when the 40k general was good?
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>>51891443
Looks pretty decent, at least it's not terrible.
A plasma squad with monster hunter should shred a riptide provided it didn't boost its shield.
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>>51890674

>You will never use your grandfathers power fist to cave in some traitorous filths skull
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>>51890613
Trust Slavs to be traitors to Humanity and when they try to make up for it be the shittiest regiments - the novels portray them as fuckin retarded vodkiggers
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I just realized that a 10 man CSM squad with CCWs and MoK have 40 attacks on the charge.
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>>51891435
I am grateful to be reminded that for all it's flaws, at least /tg/ is not /pol/
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>>51891492
yeah, remember when we'd argue about proofs and general images for days at a time? how about blitz brigade and fan codex shitposting?

Top shelf stuff. Almost as good as when carnac shows his face.
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>>51891451
>>51891461
He's replying to my question, chill the fuck down.
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>>51891492
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>>51891492
40k generals were never good, list threads were good because they scared away people who's sole purpose was to shit post and people from other boards never raided it.
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>>51891457
what's wrong with the holster /k/ommando?
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>>51891515
A 10 man squad of blood angel assault marines have 30 attacks on the charge... at strength 5 AND initiative 5!

CHECKMATE
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>>51891566
I'm not even /k/ and I can tell that the pouches are in the way.
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>>51891560
other boards don't raid 40k generals
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>>51891566
The shooter is right handed and the holster is on his left thigh and not reversed. He would have to draw it with his left hand then put it in his shooting hand.
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>>51891465

The Russes are a priority target for enemies.
If they shake it, I can use the Enginseer to grant Power of the machine spirit.
If the Russ is about to get swarmed I can use PotMS to fire the heavy flamer and the the main gun.
If they break its weapon, I have a half chance of restoring it.

That and my doods fluff have strong ties to the Mechanicus.
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>>51891575
Furious Charge still gives an I boost?
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Does anyone know what model is in the bottom right?

The model is supposed to be part of Gaunt's Ghosts but I don't recognize it.
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>>51891560
Shit. I miss list threads
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>>51891589
Nice try.
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Dumb question - when does Roboute's new book come out?
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>>51891560
>min squads with wave serpents from the previous eldar codex

fuck now i'm triggered, i thought i had forgotten about them

>>51891596
ohh, i didn't think about that. i would say maybe they train guardsmen to be ambidextrous but that's only marines
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>>51891566
im not /k/

its the fact that you can actually draw your weapon from it

to be more specific it takes longer to because you have to pop the strap off. since pistols like that are just meant for oh shit moments when your rifle fails or something youll already be dead

old army holsters used to actually be like that until they realized how stupid it was. im sure its where the artist got the design from

i didnt even mean to nitpick but yeah the other anons both raised valid points. its pretty fucked up
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>>51891575
>I5
How?

Also the Khorne Marines are also S5.
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>>51891492
Yeah. Sadly, most good and helpful anons are lurking /aosg/ instead of 40k
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>>51891605
90% of their formations havea special rule, "Red Thirst".
+1 initiative on the charge to compliment their furious charge.
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>>51891625
cant*

also i think they used to have a funny name for the old irl ones. like death holsters or something but i forget
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>>51890950
take the caliver off the rangers and give it to vangaurds, if you want to give them a weapon give them the arquebuses, calivers have less range than the Rangers.
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>>51891621
>maybe they train guardsmen to be ambidextrous but that's only marines
You can train to shoot with either hand, but your dominant eye is going to be dominant regardless and you're always going to shoot better with one hand than the other. In my case, for example, my non-dominant eye struggles to maintain proper focus down the sight, leading to a poor sight picture when I shoot lefty. Not to mention all the other issues with shooting ambidextrously with a gun designed for use with a certain hand.
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>>51891661
>Being cross eye dominant.

Shit sucks.
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if only there was a list thread to contain all the rampant shitposters with their lists and metal dolls
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I'm planning on having 2 units of AC Havoks in my batmans Warband for that sweet ObSec stealth dakka, but I have a question. Do I want to buffer the squad at all with more dudes or just let them be?
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>>51891619
March.
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>>51891628
Red Thirst plus furious charge
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>>51891691
Do we know what day?
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>>51891628
Red thirst for +1 inititve on the charge.
>>51891635

The difference is they're both inherent/formation bonuses so unlike your mark of khrone blood angels dont pay a single point for them!
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>>51891684

Fucking hell. I didn't even realize I was cross dominant until my brother's father in law showed me his newest carry. I lined up the sights to check them out, and he was like "what are you doing?" and he pointed out I was trying to sight with my left eye.

No wonder I had trouble with longer ranges.
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Which copy of the Necromunda rules do you need for Inquisimunda? Underhive or the original?
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>>51891725
>not taking .5 seconds to do the eye test

you deserve it
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>>51891703
Not as far as I know.
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>>51891737
40k really needs more doggos

i want a chapter that uses attack doggos or gryph-hounds

space yiffs dont count
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>>51891725
>>51891684
My left eye is so bad, I almost always keep it closed (or Forest Whitaker'd) if I'm not wearing my glasses. My right eye is somehow 20/20. TFW your body has adapted to sighting a rifle above all other functions.
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>>51891747

I'd been shooting for years and no one ever told me other wise. He had me do the test right there and that was that.
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>>51891515
A 10man 30k WE squad can put out 50 at S5
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Suggestions on how to spend the last 10 points?
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>>51891785
HQ Upgrades.
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>>51891772

My eyes are shit, so I always attributed it to that, but I never really had a problem with my rifle, just my pistol.
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>>51891654
ikr but I can't get more vanguard (only 1 vanguard squad and 1 ranger squad) and I want to get the most of the war convocation's benefits
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>>51891690
i would buff them with 1 or 2
unless its cheap weapons like autocannons
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>>51891785
Invest in an icarus array, you have no anti air,
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>>51891443
That's quite a nice list. I personally bring a vanquisher, a battle tank, an exterminator, meltavets and flamervets. Oh, and a minimal meatshield platoon. I'd be interested to see a fight play out between us.
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>>51891610
one of the generic(?) riflemen GW released with their pewter gaunts ghosts set

there were four or five of them
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>>51891826
Nobody I play against uses flying stuff, but I guess it will probably serve to be prepared now.
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>>51891782

>tfw your 30k legion usually gets +1 hit and wound on combat but get nothing but stealth in 40k

I'd love to be able to run 10+ man squads in 40k, but there's literally no reason for them to do it.

>>51891825

Actually, the are Autocannons. I have 10 on the way. What I might do then is run a squad with 4 and two squads with 3. How's that sound?
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>>51891785
give the chimerae heavy flamer instead of heavy bolters. they can only fire one weapon when moving anyway. and a heavy flamer can be useful for clearing an objective

i would give the hw squad some weapon, autocannon if you plan to stay behind (they can shoot out of the chimera with it) or some plasma/melta
spilt the sentinels into 3 single. squadron only hurts them because they have to shoot at the same target and share damage etc.
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>>51891849
It's a no brainer choice, the array provides all the weapons.
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To be honest, I kind of miss raptors anon/monstergirl anon. I'd take them over cheetah poster.(No offense, but there's just no substance to your shitposting, just "HAHAHAHA THEY DON'T LIKE ME") It was more fun having back and forth with the other two.
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>>51891874
you might run into problems when you need heavier weapons, ie against certain MCs or AV13/14 vehicles. Remember they are not ver mobile so you also need 3 good places for them. I'd start with 2 squas and see how things go.
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>>51891785

Volkov's cane on the company commander.
6" bubble around the Chimera where orders always pass unless you roll box cars.
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>>51891892
Makes sense, thanks anon.

>>51891877
I'll split the sentinels up, that makes a lot of sense.
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>>51891895
>>51891492
>>51891535
It all feels like yesterday: the general image wars, the birth of raptorsanon, busty rough riders, blitz brigade...

What a magical time
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>>51891895
Raptors anon isn't gone, I'm still here. I've merely toned back the shitposting to an almost nonexistent amount, and have stayed on topic for the most part. The bulk of my posting happens on saturday nights when I get back from the geedubs with fresh pictures and batreps.

Right now I'm working on converting a Deoderant stick into another Javelin Land Speeder, this time with a TL-Lascannon turret. Believe me when I say that cutting a hole precise enough to fit a razorback turret in a deoderant stick was pretty difficult.
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>>51890750

>Living in upside-downland.
>Using the most expensive country when talking about prices.
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>>51891962
the shitposting void just gets filled by someone else
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>>51890635
as a chaos player the only thing im really jealous of sm players is drop pods. dreadclaws suck shit and are super expensive. I would say grav-centurions too but oblits are better than any sm heavy supp
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>>51891985
Are people actually insisting that I should get back to shitposting? I will admit that what makes cheetaposter hilarious isn't his posts, but by the eldar players getting absolutely fucking triggered by everything he says.
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>>51892059
yes
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>>51891911

Remember that this is a Warband, so it's either a Havoks or a Hellbrute, and I have melta raptors for hard targets I might even use my Dreadclaw for some melta chosen. Still, maybe two is good for now.

I'd like to use a Lascannon team, but they're just too expensive. Maybe instead I can run is me Aux predators instead.
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>>51891985
>>51892059
The fact is that there will always be shitposters. it's an easy way for retards to get their attention fix. Honestly, i just don't give a shit. If you're gonna keep shitposting though, you might as well just be namefagging.
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>>51892097
good shitposters take all the (You)s and there is none left for the bad ones, so they go elsewhere, or they improve their game.
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Why do you guys even like 40k? It just looks like a starcraft ripoff with dumber lore.
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>>51892110
lmao take off your faggot glasses dood-san.
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>>51892110
take your (you) and leave
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>>51892110
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>There are people on this thread who don't realize that this is /tg/'s containment thread for shitposts. Same way /pfg/ is a loli containment thread.
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>>51892110
40k's cool

There are very few science fiction wargames I don't like. I think antares might be the first I just do not care for.
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>>51892110

I can't think of another universe that has guys half as badass as this.
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Can someone tell me when Mephiston turned into a fucking CSM? Or is that just the artist's fault?
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>>51892110
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>>51892110
the funny thing about this is that i really do prefer the sc rifle look to bolters and i think the clear dome over the head would slaves 40ks problem of everyone running around without helmets on
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>>51892164
codex angels of death id say
he always was pretty .. off
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>>51892141
>>Same way /pfg/ is a loli containment thread.
>loli
>containment
>not spreading loli to the world
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>>51892110

*slow claps*

*steps out of the shadows*

Heh... not bad, kid. Not bad at all. Your meme, I mean. It's not bad. A good first attempt. It's plenty dank... I can tell it's got some thought behind it... lots of quotable material...

But memeing isn't all sunshine and rainbows, kid. You're skilled... that much I can tell. But do you have what it takes to be a Memester? To join those esteemed meme ranks? To call yourself a member of the Ruseman's Corps? Memeing takes talent, that much is true. But more than that it takes heart. The world-class Memesters - I mean the big guys, like Johnny Hammersticks and Billy Kuahana - they're out there day and night, burning the midnight meme-oil, working tirelessly to craft that next big meme.

And you know what, kid? 99 times out of a hundred, that new meme fails. Someone dismisses it as bait, or says it's "tryhard," or ignores it as they copy/paste the latest shitpost copypasta dreamt up by those sorry excuses for cut-rate memers over at reddit. The Meme Game is rough, kid, and I don't just mean the one you just lost :^). It's a rough business, and for every artisan meme you craft in your meme bakery, some cocksucker at 9gag has a picture of a duck or some shit that a million different Johnny No-Names will attach a million different captions to. Chin up, kid. Don't get all mopey on me. You've got skill. You've got talent. You just need to show your drive.

See you on the boards..
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>>51892141
>this is shitposting containment

You've never been to /ps2g/ before son
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/wsg/ used to be a containment thread for all the shitposters, and now it doesn't exist anymore, so they come here instead.
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>>51892110
The lore predates SC and Blizzard by about 2 decades.
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>>51892218
>>51892147
>>51892149
>>51892182
>Taking bait this poor
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>>51892218
>taking the b8 this hard
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>>51892231

Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it.
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>>51892256
Nigger
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>>51892231
>>51892218
Just saying in case anyone was actually confused
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>>51892256

The likeness of your face is purely disgusting. I mean, honestly. Look at yourself in the mirror for more than 5 seconds and you'll begin to contemplate your reason of existence. Do you even have any economic use at all? Do you do anything but sit on your fat lazy ass all day? While stalking your profile, I haven't been able to find a picture of you that shows you more than a 3/10. (Even with that shitty editing technique that you use to cover up your many flaws.) Are you proud that you made me waste all this time to type this bullshit? Because of you, I now have 2 minutes and 37 seconds of wasted time on my hands. What the fuck do you expect me to do about that? I'd recognize that fucking bird nose from anywhere. Let me burn you at the stake like I would any other Witch. If you were in Poland on September 1, 1939, they'd mistake you for a Jewish man with that fat ass honker you have sitting on your face. I seriously can't even begin to comprehend what your parents look like. Did you fall out of the "Common, ugly ass internet fuckboy who wears shit clothing and fake ass snapbacks" tree and hit every fucking branch on the way down? What the hell was going through your mind when you decided to piece together that fucking outfit? You look so trashy. I'm not even a fashion critic, and I'm able to find over one hundred things wrong with how you look right now. You look like a rejected ass Shaun White. You remind me of Caitlyn Jenner with your misshaped face. I'd rather stare at the broadside of a Barn for two hours than stare at your profile pictures for another two seconds. Can someone get me a gallon of Bleach so that I can purge my system from this disgusting fucking swine?
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>>51892256
This thread is going places
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>>51892256
>We have REAL intellectual discussion

I'll be that guy and take your b8.
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>>51892277
>no dark eldar aren't underpowered they're just glass cannons
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>>51892277
Doesn't the Aeldari banter early on count as "Aealvish Word Saellaeed"?
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>>51890846
Codex: Aedarkei Aeldari of Aecommoraghri
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>>51892284
Stale places.
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When will Castellans of the Imperium allow for dkok and elysians?
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Does anyone have a copy of the Necromunda rules? Can't find a copy anywhere (It's not in any of the Megas) and GW pulled the digital version from the site.
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>>51892305
>>51892305
Yea, any mention of "Aeldari" or any fuckery like that counts as WOORD SAAELAED.
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>>51892340
Email FW/GW and find out. At the moment I would guess no because it specifies the exact codex they have to be from.
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>>51892360
What's so bad at about Castellans?
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>>51891435
>the media actually fell for this
god bless TRS
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any leaks for fire of cyraxus, really hoping there is a forgeworld riptide wing since only being allowed 3 xv109s in one cad is really aids right now
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>>51892340
Email forgeworld about it. Literally any forgeworld related question you can ask here, can be directly asked at forgeworld.

>>51892371
Nothing actually. It's a superb detachment for running extremely fluffy Imperial lists, and goes great with herohammer games. It's not competitive, just genuinely fun.
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>>51892360
Plastic sisters when?
>orkz are a melee race
>I2

check off two more
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>>51892366
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Why are gw such shills, it makes sense fluff wise to allow them doesn't it?
>>51892386
will do, though they haven't responded to my email that I sent 10 days ago, I think I'll ring them to remind them to reply
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>>51891437
This. 40k AoS is my dream and I want to see the shitstorm.
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>>51892378
I think FoC is kind of stuck in limbo until 9th edition comes out.
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>>51892398
>Tau are a shooting race
>BS3

>Eldar are a games workshop race
>Aeldari
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>>51892420
>Grots are more expensive than conscripts
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>>51892405
Yes, but
>implying that GW remembers that FW exists normally, and not just whenever they want to plunder the Heresy range for profitable ideas
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>>51892386
Interesting, what is the minimum points cost for it? it intrigues me greatly.
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can they hurry up and put the new models out for pre-order
I want to fucking see them
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>>51892469
They're up on the Australian webstore. Only 40K preorder this week is the new Mephiston book.
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>>51892430
> Grots cost the same as conscripts on a per model basis. But they also have
> -1 Toughness
> -1 Strength
> -1 Leadership
> -1 Initiative
> Mandatory 5-point sergeant
> Additional mandatory 5-point sergeant for every 10 grots.

>>51892455
None, it's essentially a Double-CAD where you can fill it with ANY armies of the imperium unit. It has 2 - 4 HQ, 4+ Troops, 0 - 6 Fast attack/Heavy support/Elite, and 0-3 LOW.

It's benefits are Army-wide hatred, and troops respawn in ongoing reserves on a roll of 5+.
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R8 pls
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>>51892408
*8th edition
Damn it, keep mixing those up because of WHFB.
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>>51892455
Right around 500 points when I was looking at it.

Guard aren't competitive anyways, so don't worry about the whole competitive aspect.
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>>51892469
All that's coming for preorders are aos and blood bowl stuff
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/New-Exclusive?Nu=product.repositoryId&N=2510756053+3129408095&qty=12&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=catnewexclusive
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>>51892482
I don't want to wait an additional week, reeeeee
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>>51892485
Bruh.

That sounds really fucking fun and I already run Imperial Forces as Double CADs.

This is from Fall of Cadia, right? Looks like I'm getting that book.
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>>51892485
arent grots 4 points? Conscripts are 3 points lol
also conscripts have a mandatory 25 point commissar or priest, but you always take a 50 man blob so who cares
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>>51892485
Put in Coteaz and it's just a straight up BETTER CAD. Only issue is the minimum cost.
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>>51892485
Don't you need two infantry squads and a command squad to take a single squad of conscripts?

Or is that the old codex or something?
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>>51892576
yes unfortunately, unless you go full unbound, then you can make an army of conscripts
but it's not so bad, you can give orders to the conscripts and laugh as you throw out potentially 150 shots per turn from a single fucking unit
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>>51892587
I didn't realize you could take the individual squads of a platoon in unbound.
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>>51892604
isn't unbound anything goes? I don't see why you couldn't
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>>51892604
I don't think you can...
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>>51892615
Unbound is just not putting them into detachments, they still follow all other restrictions.
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>>51892626
wait seriously? I thought it was just an anything goes mode

Don't guard lack detachments?
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>>51892645
Guard have some detachments, and they have access to Cad and Allied just like everyone else.
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>>51892653
oh durr, CAD, i'm retarded
but yeah conscripts have a 1 HQ and then platoon tax
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>>51892645
Every army has detachments, that's what a CAD is, as well as formations. Unbound is just for weird lists that wouldn't fit into a normal detachment.
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>>51892664
I know, I forgot that CAD was a thing, when I hear detachments I think of shit like Gladius Strike Force, or Skyhammer, CAD to me is just 4th and 5th edition army comp
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Transports don't come back in the Castellans, do they?
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>>51892704
RAW they do.
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>>51892715
What? Really? Can you explain how that is?
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why doesn't Typhus have EW?
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R8 my 1500pts Nids list?

Unbound:
2 Flyrants w/ ES Grubs + 2 TL Devourers with Brainleech
1 Zoanthrope brood of 2 zoeys
1 Exocrine

Incubator Node:
1 Tervigon
3 units of 10 Termagants with 3 devourers each

The First Curse (GS Cult):
1 Patriarch, Psyker Mastery level 2, 1 Familiar
1 unit of 20 Genestealers.
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>>51890689
that's a huge fuckin' Chimera right there.
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Do you guys know if the Valkyrie Sky Talons have stats for the FFG's 40k RPGs?

The /40krpg/ is kill so I'm asking here
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>>51892726
read your rulebook, specifically the section on dedicated transports
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Omegon and Sigmar are the missing primarchs.
Russ shattered the legions, Guilliman took in the remnants, and Alpharius took in the primarchs.

Discuss.
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>>51892770
>Sigmar is the missing primarch
I could see this
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>>51892770
Alpha, Sigma, Omega.

fuck you. fuck everything for me not noticing this earlier. god fucking damn it.
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Has anyone actually run the Tzaangor Warherd with Thousand Sons? Trying to figure out if I want to grab some or just stick to using armor for my auxiliary.

The fact that they don't even get their pistols base really activates my almonds.
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>>51892726

Dedicated transports are the same role as the unit who bought it, don't actually take a slot, and can only start the game with the unit who bought it embarked inside. Therefore if your Marines buy a rhino, that rhino is a troop choice. However, if your Marines die, they're a separate unit than the rhino and therefore not respawn inside another rhino. Likewise, if that rhino dies, you have a chance to spawn another rhino, albeit one that is empty.
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Running Skitarii in a Castellans seems like a strange thing to attempt... It seems like it basically encourages you to take Cawl if you want them.
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>>51892770
The sigma refers to the legion itself, the sum of its parts
The missing legions are a reference to the lost legions of Teutoburg Forest, stricken from the record for their failures in the crusade
Russ is grandstanding, guilliman is just efficient, twin primarchs were a mistake, vanilla is the best flavour when it's done right
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If a unit in the castellan's of the imperium detachment did and reswpawns, does it's dedicated transport again come back? It says an exact copy of the unit.
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>>51892356
Who is this lovely chap?
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>>51892893
Dies and respawns*

Fucking phone.
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>>51892893
The dedicated transport isn't part of the unit, so no, it respawns separate.
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So uh, does the loss of ObSec hurt Castellans enough to make it a problem?
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>>51892746
anyone?
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>>51892924
Not too bad.

Add in Coteaz and it fixes the issue.
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>>51892934
I don't own him, I'll think about getting him at some point.

Right now I'm trying to make a Guard+Skitarii Castellans, looking like I need Cawl for this.
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>>51892953
If you're going for the actual detachment, skitarii aren't part of it.
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>>51892980
Really? They don't fall under Forces of the Imperium? That's dumb.

Guess I'll use my Marines I never touch and then run some Skitarii as another detachment alongside it.
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>>51892901
forgeworld event exclusive enforcer

he comes with a robo-pup
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>>51892989
>They don't fall under Forces of the Imperium?
The Imperial Cult and Machine Cult are completely separate entities, the only body with jurisdiction over both are the high lords of terra and even that is debatable.
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>>51892989
Yup. It's pretty retarded.

Almost every original founding space Marine chapter and skitarii/cult aren't in it.

It's basically offshoot space marines, Tempestus, Guard, and Inquisition units.
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>>51893024
>Offshoot Marines
Oh fuck, nevermind this formation then, can't even play my Fists successors, can I?
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>>51891487

Krieg Artillery in an allied detachment for the big guns
Cadian Infantry formation(s) for the bulk of the army.
Rough Riders, preferably with some method of gaining the outflank special rule.
All your heavy weapons teams should use the Krieg models, but also grab some horse models and put them on the bases as well. Behold! Horse-drawn artillery! We've gone full-Napoleonic War!
You'll have a very fluffy but immobile force, but I've heard some people have made rough riders work and they could be you're mobile assault unit.
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>>51893041
>can't even play my Fists successors, can I?
codex space marines are in, that includes fists

the only ones left out are awoos, bathrobes and vampires
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>>51893063
Gotcha, I should download the book so I can actually see all the restrictions.
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>>51892746
Good, but put that tervigon on your troops slot and make a cad. Then you won't get people being like "why unbound, anon?"
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>>51892406
http://hivefleetcharybdis.blogspot.com/2016/03/age-of-sigmar-40k-space-marine.html
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>>51891560
Go on, make a list thread, you will totally scare me away

t. Night Lords song enthusiast
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>>51890719
>formations cost points
>rend instead of AP
>"hero phase" magic instead of the god-awful psychic phase
>alternating unit deployment (but not random turns)
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>>51892277
>I2
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Is there a combined wolves codex that includes CotW? Tourney I'm playing at is limiting our armies to 3 sources and I wanna run a leviathan and a knight.
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>>51893099
So, get rid of the Incubator Node? That gimps the list quite a bit. I'd be better off running a Hive Fleet Detachment rather than a CAD in that case.
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>>51892746
Also the incubator node is objectively worse because you have a higher chance to clog dat bugpussay. Consider dropping a gant squad and adding a pod for the other two.

I was trying to make something similar and I hope it works well for you.
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How effective does this incursion look. Thinking about using.
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>>51893136
How does it gimp it? Re rolling 1's is worse, anon.
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>>51892742
This. Played my first game in years against my friends dominus maniple. His onager one shotted Typhus. And why the hell is cawl three times as durable as my disease ball tank. And 30 points less
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>>51891113
Fuck. We really should discard this relic of a writing system and move to something IPA based.
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>>51892751
Check RPG Warhammer thread next time. For now:
https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/55017-valkyrie-stats/
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>>51893160
You're right about the Incubator Node, now that I think about it. Fuck it, I'll just run this list. It's a friendly game anyways.
>>51893182
Taking the Incubator Node gives you fewer, but larger, units of spawned gants. Statistically, you get the same amount of bugs either way, it's just a matter of unit size, and bigger is better IMO.
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>>51893203

Your 30 gaunts have to be one unit to get a troops choice tervigon
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>>51893227
It's an HQ, hence the Hive Fleed Detachment. The list builder just doesn't have an HQ Tervigon option.
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Age of 40k since a lot of people were talking about it.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4wN-6BdRhC5UThhU255VE9WMzA
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>>51893227
It's in the HQ slot, guy.
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>>51893236

HA, thanks for the (you) feg, have yours
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>>51893100
Wow, that guys is a lot better than mine.
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>>51891487
I run my Vostroyans as a Emperor's Blade Assault Company all wearing carapace armor along with an Emperor's Wrath Artillery Company. And lots of flamers.
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>>51893173
>Nurgle and Tzeentch working together

Heresy among heretics!
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>>51893203
Statistically you don't. Don't remember who did the dice math write-up, but whomever made those rules is an idiot. It should've been "reroll one dice".

List looks good anon, please post how it goes.
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Dont know if its been said yet but for those that were worried, the defiler is back on sale from gw, soul grinder is temporarily out now though
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>>51893249
Glad to help you get off tonight anon. Fight back those tears of loneliness if you can.
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>>51893249

The fuck is wrong with this asshole?
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>>51893292
See above.
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>>51893271
>List looks good anon, please post how it goes
Thanks, it's likely going up against Necrons or Iron Warriors (maybe Blood Angels, but I doubt it). I dunno what this guy is going to bring desu, but I'll report back tomorrow night.
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Gonna have to fight something along the lines of pic related next week with my AdMech. Am I gonna have a hard time or will it be alright?
Kind of feel like this might be kind of a troublesome list to go against, especially with all that ObSec.
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how are the Mark III space marines from the prospero kit? Looking to buy some off of ebay, it's 25 bucks for 8 I think
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>>51893123
Something i would add thats not in either game, any rerolls you may have are limited to once per player turn

>you fail 8 saves
>ok ill use my reroll
>i target them again with another attack
>oh damn i cant reroll

This would eliminate the horrible grind of killing units that just lengthen the game
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>>51893339
That sounds amazing
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>>51893133
bump for answer
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>>51893354
I know, right? Its reasonable and would add some choice to what both players do during a turn, do you focus fire on that one unit now that they cant reroll or for the controlling player, should i reroll this save? i only lost 2 models and maybe he will target them again and do more damage.
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>>51892813
Rules look ok. Not sure about tzaangors themselves though.
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>>51893324
Hard to say without seeing your AdMech list.
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I'M GONNA DO IT, ANONS.

I'LL DO IT AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME.
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So this is built out of everything I own.

IT'S GONNA BE FUN GOD DAMN IT!
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Just got done with a 1000 point game, defending my Demonic fortress from the combined forces of Tau and Raven Guard.

Managed to win thanks to the game time running out, as both my opponents played a bit defensively, forcing me to go on the attack, but my Havocs and Defiler did great work.

I have a high appreciation for Warpsmiths and Dozer Blades on Rhinos now.
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>>51890664
Why not find points for a webway portal for the dark artisan?
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Eldar shouldn't get Perils of the Warp.
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>>51893450

>Youll run a sub par list

ok
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>>51893470
Eldar shouldn't get to play outside of Kill Team because they're a dying race
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>>51893439
Posted it before, it's nothing out of the ordinary.

Mostly just unsure if I should just say "fuck it" to the Pseudogenerator and just give some shields and small upgrades to the rest instead at this point.
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>>51893479
This is just a small intermission in an infinity of the Eldar's rule.
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>>51893203
>1501
I get that Tyranids are in a bad spot, but do you really need to cheat?
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>>51893485
Personally I'd drop the Pseudogenerator. A handful of extra S4 AP5 attacks don't really seem like they'd be that useful against marines.
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>>51891487
Heavy weapon Lascannon/Heavy Bolters/ and Mortors.

Lots of flamers.

Plasma is fluffy.

Burn the heretics

Also, artillery.

Basilisks, lots of them. Or gun emplacements with them or medusa guns.

Veteran infantry to hold the line, while the artillery rains down is a good idea.
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>>51893458
I actually really like this.
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>Roboute Guilliman arrives on Terra
>Starts trying to fix shit up
>Fucking with the High Lords, telling them he's the leader again
>When suddenly the warp splits open upon Terra
>It's Magnus using the same sorcery he did millenia ago, to attempt to speak with the emperor, possible now due to being back in realspace
I just want something like this to happen, I don't care why.
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>>51893458
Should probably take a vox caster off of a vet squad and put it on the PCS. IIRC you can't even issue orders to units inside transports anyways.
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>>51893695
That makes sense anon, I will do that!

>>51893656
Really? Why's that? It's just a collection of everything I own, I hope it actually works well!
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>>51893468
Oh, fuck me...I thought I had added it. Now I have to go back and shuffle points around everywhere.

Nice catch, thanks.
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>>51893663
I want magnus to get a giant space gladius shoved into his cyclopean eye for stealing the ultramarine's colourscheme.
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I'm going to the shop Sunday to try a semi competitive Ynnari list while still trying to stay fluffy by making everything out of 7 man units. I have some wiggle room, but not much. Thoughts?

Codex Eldar: Craftworlds (2015) (Reborn Warhost Detachment) (1379pts)

Farseer (100pts) [Divination and Runes of Fate Primaris Powers, Shuriken Pistol, Witchblade]

Windriders (212pts)
6x Windrider Guardian
6x Eldar Jetbike [6x Scatter Laser]
Windrider Warlock [Runes of Battle, Witchblade]

Windriders (212pts)
6x Windrider Guardian
6x Eldar Jetbike [6x Shuriken Cannon]
Windrider Warlock [Runes of Battle, Witchblade]

Wraithknight (325pts) [Ghostglaive and Scattershield, 2x Shuriken Cannon]

Aspect Host (Ballistic Skill) (530pts)
Dark Reapers [6x Dark Reaper]
Dark Reaper Exarch [Reaper Launcher (Starshot and Starswarm)]
Fire Dragons [6x Fire Dragon]
Fire Dragon Exarch [Dragon's Breath Flamer]
Warp Spiders [6x Warp Spider]
Warp Spider Exarch [Powerblades, Twin-linked Death Spinner]

Codex Eldar: Craftworlds (2015) (Reborn Warhost Detachment) (617pts)

Spiritseer (80pts) [Runes of Battle, Song of Ynnead, Witch Staff]

Dire Avengers (121pts) [6x Dire Avenger]
Dire Avenger Exarch [Power Weapon and Shimmershield]

Dire Avengers (121pts) [6x Dire Avenger]
Dire Avenger Exarch [Power Weapon and Shimmershield]

Wraithknight (295pts) [Two Heavy Wraithcannons]
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>>51890719
Those keywords seems pretty good. Would really clear up lots of shit. Also free rules.
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>>51893719
It just looks like fun. It's rare (for me) to see a guard list that doesn't just turtle in the corner, and allied SM feels good, man.
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>>51893774

Magnus had nothing to do with that. The color change was totally Ahriman when he took the Brotherhood of Dust from Amon.
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>>51893831
Turtling is for weak men! Men who fear battle! My Guardsmen have no fear, nor do the Marines who march with them!
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>>51893587
>1 point
>cheating

I feel like most people will forgive this, anon. I'd love to hear someone successfully argue that 1 point won the game.
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>>51890719
keywords, rend instead of AP. the rebalancing of weapon options.

i would like cover to go back to just being a to-hit modifier.
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>>51893845
Nah, they were going ultramarineaboo before they went dust.
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>>51892277
Where's the "what program did you make that army list with" one?
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So /tg/ I'm not shitposting when I ask this, but...

Is there any possible way to make a melee-oriented IG army? I'd assume priests would be a must, and they'd be likely more suited for counter-charging than storming the enemy lines, but I really like IG and I really like melee and I'd like to mix the two.
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>>51893881
I don't know, anon. When I lose the game because my opponent just had to cram in an extra bit of searchlight cheese in his army, I get pretty miffed. They're too fucking OP man, I swear. I lose like 2 units a turn to the damn things.

Yes, this is a joke.
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>>51893906
Straken is a must for counter attack and furious charge, and for being a melee monster himself. I'd bring Ogryn as well, overpriced maybe but they're fun and a melee guard list is the perfect opportunity to bring them.
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>>51892924
Losing ObSec isn't anywhere near as big of a problem as people make it out to be. All it means is that your units can't capture an objective if there's an enemy unit already on top of it.

With how Frag-festy 40k is in 7th edition, it's kinda hard NOT to kill an enemy squad off of objectives. And spending 200 points on adding Coteaz JUST for giving troops OBSEC is kinda pointless when those 200 points are better spent on something that can take advantage of free Hatred.

Personally I find that taking stuff like an Eversor, Dreadnoughts(ESPECIALLY Contemptors), Honour Guard, and Rough Riders is more useful. My own list has 4 squads of scouts, each with Camo Cloaks, a Heavy Bolter, Combi-grav, and a Land Speeder Storm as my troops. Those form the basis of my army, and are my primary shooting support for the entire rest of the detachment.
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>>51891515
A 10 man black legion squad with the mark of krone gets 40 attacks rerolling misses

They also avoid paying for the mark so can afford the icon for +1 s
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>>51890698

>"IT'S LATIN"
>It's not actually latin
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>>51893906
blob up and put in a few characters, just watch out for stronger units that can blend like a blob of 20 black guardians deep striking
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>>51893986

>Losing ObSec isn't anywhere near as big of a problem as people make it out to be. All it means is that your units can't capture an objective if there's an enemy unit already on top of it.

>tfw you assault an objective held by grav cents with your troop sisters, have a tea party for 3 turns, and win by 1 point because your opponent didn't have ObSec

Sisters have bolt pistols and I'm not afraid to use them!
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Somebody make a new thread
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>>51893910
>>51893881
It's more of a principle thing really. You either play by the rules or you don't. And if this guy is willing to cheat on his army list, is he willing to cheat in other areas too? Things like this eats away the trust between players. Little by little, point by point.
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>>51893881
That 1 point could've been that Melta Bomb bought at 496 points that ended up exploding your giant model or that 5 point shield that gave him that 5++ invuln save preventing you from clearing an objective in time.

There's a lot of very cheap upgrades that can end up turning the game around.
Granted, you'd be a bit of a whiny bitch if you complained about that thing winning an already incredibly close game, but it can make a difference if you really want to play "fair".
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>>51894138
I would but I turned off my PC literally a minute ago.
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>>51894313
Best solution is offer the opponent 10 free points, if he cant or wont upgrade anything just remove the offending model or upgrade
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I only own DE, I splurged and got some Eldar to play some Ynnari. Close combat focus but my group is not that competitive. How's it look?
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>>51893906
Powerswords on Sergeants, Priests and Commissars. Can work decently well but can't avoid them being weaker and low ld.
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>>51894436
Gay
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>>51891178
Wow, you really seem to be projecting about homosexuality a lot.
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>>51893959
>>51894066
>>51894455
So keep in mind the fragility of the Holy Human Form™®, and shore up Leadership with characters. Ogryn and Straken are "elite" melee units. Gotcha.

I'll have to try something out soon against one of my friends.
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>>51894748
Also don't forget that sentinels are technically melee units.
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>>51894155
>>51894313
Or you could not be an awkward sperg and ask your opponent first if it's okay if you play at 1501 or 1505 or whatever since it doesn't have to be an even number. But, sure, triggering your OCD is "cheating".
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>>51891769
>i want a chapter that uses attack doggos or gryph-hounds

KDK flesh hounds?
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Is it obligatory for a unit with Deep Strike rule to arrive to the battlefield via Deep Strike or can he deploy together with the ground forces?
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New thread
>>51895066
>>51895066
>>51895066
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>>51894436
You know how Age of Sigmar gave you bonuses for doing outlandish things around the table?

I feel strongly about letting all Ynnari know that if they kill themselves on the spot ill give them the win.

But joking (sort of) aside, looks alright.
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