Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for Guard, rate my list

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back when 40k only had 4 chapters

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make carnifexes great again

nth for despite the wellspring of 40k memes the general only circulates 3 unfunny op images

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>>51885993
When.. never?

>>51886007
>square bases
cease
I SAID CEASE

>>51885993
Ultramarini ite domum.

>>51885993
>>51886007
Vintage 40k looks like dog shit my dude. And one more thread of you shitting the place up with these pics will officially make you gayer than the night lords fag

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Need halp, really new but I'd like some input on this before I make an ass of myself or become That Tau Guy. Will this make for a good game for both teams and what is wrong with it in your eyes? Any input is appreciated

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>>51886032
I won't.

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>>51885955

Why isn't there a full range of Ratling imperial guard? That would be fun

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>>51886030
>those schemes

>>51886048
This is two different people.

>>51886048
did someone say DUBSTEP?

>>51886032

inb4 baseless dreadnought

>>51886052
banana hand warriors were best warriors.

>>51886052
now post some eldar

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>want to play Grey Knights
>hate the stormtalon model
>only play 1k games

>>51885971
I like it !


Makes me want to play my ~2500 pts of guards that I haven't played for 2 years

>>51886096
Ok, then go away.

>>51886091
it's the same models they have now.

>>51886070
I've always wondered how people can tell without post id. How do you know that's two different people?

Somebody give me a 850 point list to test mine against in Tabletop Simulator please.

>>51886122
Look at the post times, they're less than a minute apart. 4chan has a one minute throttle after you make a post, so it has to be two posts by separate people.

>>51886122
One of them is me and one isn't.

>>51886146
30 secs for pass users

>>51886118
wait, did the eldar range only get updated once?! i know the current models are mostly 2nd or 3rd edition

>>51885971
I don't know why you have a CCS all the way up top. Are you taking it as a solo Battlegroup Detachment? Because you can definitely do that, the Detachment is only 1+ Command as a minimum.

But part of me is thinking you're using the Battlegroup Detachment thinking the Emperor's Shield Infantry Platoon is a core. If that's the case, it's an Emperor's Shield Infantry Company that is a core, which is 3 ES Infantry Platoons.

If I assumed wrong, and you just wanted another CCS to give out orders to the ES Infantry Platoon, then you can just combine the CCS into the CAD as your second HQ choice, because if you take the solo CCS Battlegroup Detachment, then you won't get any of the command benefits from the Battlegroup.

Otherwise I really like the list. The only issue I see is that the last 2 Infantry squads are messed up. The last squad has 1 too many men, and the one above it is missing a Grenade Launcher.

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Reposting from last thread, as I was drowned out by 8e wishlisting. I think I'm mostly sorted with this list, but I'm wondering about a couple things. Firstly, should I change the Knight into a single-gun variant to be able to take a third Dragoon, and maybe a Serpenta for them to mark their target? I'm also a bit concerned about the Hoplites being blown apart before they reach their target. Would it just be playing smart to keep them out of trouble? I assume any tank commander would have a fit seeing a wall of Haywire walking towards them.

>>51886030
If you aren't playing fully painted tiger claws, can you even really say that you are playing at all?

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>>51886166
They got updated twice. Once in third edition where they got plastic guardians, a better wraithlord, new jetbikes etc then again in I think 5th where they got the new war walker and all their new shit.

Aspect warriors and phoenix lords never got updated since 2nd edition.

>>51886175
What program did you use to make that?

>>51886166
It's been updated twice. There was a selection of new Aspect Warriors in 3rd edition (Hawks, Banshees, Reapers, Scorpions), then again in 4th (Banshees, Scorpions, Reapers, Dragons, Avengers).

Warp Spiders and Shining Spears are the only Aspect Warriors still using 2nd edition models. Most of the Warlocks date back to that era as well.

>>51886136
Two 20 man crusader squads with pf sb ps melta, a chapter master with art arm thunderhammer combi flamer, and 1 attack bike

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So how terrible is my list?

The idea is that Cawl, the TPD and the Custodes join up and make their way up the field wrecking things. The TPD spots for the Rangers and Onager hiding under the Void Shield in the back. And the Vanguard try to grab objectives/support where needed.

>>51886210
You are more correct than me. I thought we were still using second edition striking scorpions and shit.

>>51886218
Loses to pie plates/10

>>51886201
Phoenix lords are still damn sharp.
well except for Kharandras chunky helm.

>>51886061
The ratling model with the scope removed and using it like a telescope is fucking dumb and I hate all of them for it and refuse to buy them

>>51886245
Eldar are a race that appreciates big hats.

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>>51886212
Looks solid, thanks anon.

>>51886201
>Aspect warriors and phoenix lords never got updated since 2nd edition.

Wrong.
Most aspect warriors got updated.
I think only Warp Spiders and Shining Spears have not had new models.

>>51886218
>and make their way up the field wrecking things

It's a death star that only moves 6" a turn and doesn't have amazing shooting power. It'll never actually get a chance to catch anything in close combat. It'll never die either, so you can pretty much pick an objective and never lose it, but that won't win you many games.

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Is this list shit?

They all run up the middle abusing the cover save venomthropes give them.

>>51886275
Not the size as much as the pinchers being too bulky

>>51886050
Rail rifles broadsides suck. Take a missile pod one, that way he and his drones can actually effectively shoot at the same thing too.

Your commander is a mess. I have no idea what his role is. Is he pairing with the other marker drones? Why does he have his own then? Why does he have the MSSS? There's no cover saves against markerlights. Why does he have two different guns if he isn't shooting most of the time?

Take pathfinders instead of marker drones.

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>>51886048
hello edgy kiddy who grew up thinking centurion devastators were acceptable

and im not gay

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>>51886203

>>51886272

They have a SM scout model doing that too. Why are sculptors so dumb? They should read a book on the subject matter.

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>>51886175
wheres your hq?

>>51886388
They're from England and have subsequently never so much as seen a real gun before.

>>51886244
Ideally with LOS I can spread the wounds around or dump them on Cawl if they aren't Str10/Insta-death.

>>51886304
Good point. I figured with some good maneuvering I could force them into out into the open to get shot at or catch them with a charge if they were sleeping.

>Triaros Conveyer
>When?

>>51886393
This is 7th edition, you don't need silly things like "coherent army structures" and "balance".

>>51886393
Are you blind?
Would explain a few things.

>>51886050
Also if you cut the support turrets, the missile drones, and take the wargear off the one broadside, you can take a second broadside instead.

>>51886030
>Sigmar VI

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y/n?

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If you play Ulthwe and your helmets are not painted yellow then you're a disgusting newfag degenerate.

>>51886424
>Not all snipers

>>51886424
>6 Eversors
>not 13 Eversors

Not enough WRYYYYY/10

>>51886340
Yeah the idea was to pair him with the markerlights but an earlier build had him with gundrones so I guess I forgot about the MSSS being useless with markerlights, the weapons I slapped on him were for situational adaptation in case I need him to split from the drones or if they die. Thanks for your post by the way, I am green as grass and somethings arent quite clicking yet

>>51886352
>im not gay
Your idea that a paintjob gets better the more primary colours are used indicates otherwise.

>>51886438
>>51886449
Two kinds of people, I suppose.

>>51886424
Are Eversors good?

>>51886473
No, but they're cheap.

>>51886293
Now that I think about it you can't take a neophyte with a sword brother. So drop two neos and give the attack bike a multi melta

>>51886417
The missile drones/support turrets were for flavor and theme, I do not have access to a second broadside yet. I just have the targeted reconnaissance cadre, start collecting box and a piranha so far and have been trying to make something out of that (hence the split fire warrior teams)

I need an Imperial army. Ideally one that isn't played very much, footslogging preferred.

>>51886061
Using both abhumans, I'm proud son. I have 6 Bullgryns and 8 Ratlings I like to use together from time to time. Endurance Bullgryns <3

R8 my list?
Miranda Doni [Extra Munitions, Proton Torpedoes, Rey, Ion Bombs, Conner Net] (43)

Jess Pava [M9-G8, Integrated Astromech] (28)

Biggs Darklighter [R2-D2, Integrated Astromech] (29)

>>51886352
I started playing in 2002. The old models are garbage tier friendo

>>51886527
Wrong general dude.
>>51871612
>>51871612
>>51871612

>>51886502
>can't take Neophyte with a Sword Brother
Since when is that working like that?

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Thoughts on Guilliman's return?

ÿÿ
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>>51886473
Not really. Probably the worst of the 4.

Oddly enough they got buffed with Castellans of the Imperium as they gain Hatred.

>>51886512
Death Korps of Krieg

>>51886473
no, but they are not terrible

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>>51886532
You what?

>>51886546

I think you're so slow you must be a Slowpoke with 0 speed IVs and a speed hindering nature WEARING A MACHO BRACE

>>51886030
>that funky OG salamander scheme

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>>51886532
>I started playing in 2002.

That would explain your shit taste

>>51886541
I might be wrong but I think it says in the current codex that you take 1 neophyte for every initiate max, so a sword brother wouldn't have the option to take one. But I may have just read that wrong

>>51886569
Dear god that looks like shit on all levels.

>>51886591
>red weapons

Black over red, kills 'em dead.

Red over black? Nigga that's whack.

>>51886546
He will be the first primarch to betray Emps, that's all.

>>51886632
I bet you don't even collect Johnnies, you fucking poser.

>>51886591
The dreadnought still looks good. Mono pose metal marines? Nope

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>>51886578
>salamander
OG indeed.

>>51886651

What is the Horus Heresy.

>skitarii box comes with one of each special weapon
>when the squad can carry 3

why

>>51886655
>mold lines
>THICC paint
>literally splatter on the model
>unbased
>paint in places it should never be in
>no decal
I feel sorry for any Johnny that has to live with a similar paint job.

>>51886512
Sisters of battle. I'm not even meming, I've played for 15 years and never seen a single SoB player or played agaisnt them ever.

>>51886689
Because making money is nice.

Besides, you'll buy at least 2, usually 3 boxes anyway.

>>51886715

It's a really cool idea, and if I ever win the lottery, I'm totally gonna do it, but I don't have any redundant organs to sell, senpai.

>>51886689

The hustlers on Ebay gotta get their cut of the pie too, sonny!

>>51886689
:^) welcome to GW

>>51886424
Why didn't you take any Culexus?

Should I get an army or cosplay

>>51886512
Skitarii, although they're played a bunch due to being awesome fun, sexy looking and balanced. For extra snowflake mode, try Death Korps, or maybe Marines. No matter what their players say, not all shooting weapons are S6 AP3 and Ignore Cover with silly range, they're just salty their reasonably priced infantry have reasonably priced abilities.

>>51886728
If money is an issue then play marines and do one of the lesser chapters. Do twilight swords! They have very little lore and I've never seen an army of them.

>>51886757

Are you a landwhale?

>>51886757
Why not both? I plan on getting a commissar outfit for when I play my games agaisnt my heretic buddies

>>51886768

Price is only a minor issue. Let's be real, Sisters are in an expensive tier of their own outside of some other armies' gimmick builds.

Anyway, between you and >>51886760 I did consider doing a minor marine chapter, but none of them really grab me. Maybe I just need some inspiration.

>>51886776
>stationary un linked bolters that can only fire directly forward
God dam oldhammer was bad

>>51886393
Skitarii don't use one; they have the sensibility to keep their commanders in space and just beam orders down.

The Cult Mechanicus on the other hand..

>>51886797
Did someone say twilight swords? I'm pretty sure someone said twilight swords. OR make a brother chapter to the templars and do another crusading house like the knights hospitalier

>>51886826
That nobs have gotten even more overpriced since last i checked.

>>51886843
you saw nothing

>>51886096
Take a librarian and nothing but terminators, ds everything close to your opponent. Either you lose because one unit comes on or your in combat turn 2 max because he doesnt charge you. Either way, at 1k, your games will be short. Ive dropped my entire army on a guard player turn ,psychic screamed his ccs to death, flamed 30 guard in different units, the rest ran off the board, took tank shells to the face then charged turn 2, blew up every tank and the guy quit. Ive also lost because not everything dies as easily. Go crazy with your tactics and see what sticks. If that doesnt work buy eldar jet bikes.

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>>51886451
>>51886507
I'd reccomend something like this then.

Some major things you're going to want to keep in mind as you learn:

- You should have a clear role or two in mind for any given unit. Don't try to make one unit do everything, it'll be cheaper and more effective to have a second unit take the role.

- Boys before toys. You're usually better off having more models than decking out less models with expensive wargear.

- Target priority. Know what you need to shoot off the board first, and know what units you'll need to get the job done.

>>51886061
Squeaky-voiced halflingssars!

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back in the day you needed paint skills to field legion of the damned

>>51886826
I haven't played agaisnt orks since 2008. Are they really that bad? My buddy plays nids and doesn't even use flyrants and still manages to compete so I don't see why everyone is saying nids suck. Me and my friends aren't WAACers tho and we just play at home among ourselves. Are game shops really full of try hard niggers that field riptide formations every single game?

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>>51886704
Better than your classic marine collection

>>51886872

But how do I get them onto the table? Walking means they'll never ever see combat, or even ranged shooting since everything they have is 24". If I deep strike, I have to hope that one turn of shooting I get off is good, and if I mishap, I might as well call the game there.

>>51886655
What's a Johnnie?

>>51886921
lurk more

>>51886921
Johnny is British slang for a condom.

>>51886890
>tfw the Legion of the Damned will never take you to flavortown

I want to transfer from AOS to 40k. I've already got a fuck ton of nurgle stuff, so I think I'll just need some tzeentch to make an army. How does a starter and a box of blues and brimstone sound? I've already got like 40 plaguebearers, 3 plague drones, 3 nurglings, and a herald and prince of nurgle.

>>51886921
It's a shitty old cast space marine that got turned into a meme because of an even shittier old cartoon

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>>51886937

Bought some squats out of depression on eBay what do I run them as?

>>51886892
dunno, we don't play in the shops. It's me, sm friendo and necron friendo. Even if we'd want to play in a shop, it's too far away.

So /tg/.

What are you plans for this weekend?
What games are you going to play?
You DO have games lined up, right?

>>51886964
>FELL CHAOS FOES

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New Celestine theme song.

It is basically Celestine during the Fall of Cadia.

https://youtu.be/ryxT-7Rb9KA

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>>51886956

>>51886904
Like i said, deep strike them, i like to measure 14 inches in every direction(gotta remember you place your guys in a circle around the dude you place) to minimize the possibility of mishaps and find that sweet spot. Fortune favors the bold though so i often try to deep strike closer than i should and pray for a hit, its 1/3 of the results but also 7 is the avg number rolled on 2 dice so an argument can be made for only checking half the distance i do. Its all about mitigating bad results.

>>51886988
>You DO have games lined up, right?

heartychuckling.gif

>>51886987
I think playing at home with friends is the true key to happiness in warhammer. I haven't experienced any of the horror stories I see written here from people who play agaisnt randoms at gaming stores

>>51886951
All of the units in the Tzeentch box are good but you will probably want a LoC at some point. Also, if you want to play the Tzeentch start collecting box you will need 20 blue/brimstone horrors assuming you are not taking that one locus that doubles your splits.

Rise of Primarch leaks when?

>>51886772
No, attractive male, fit, 25
>>51886781
I plan on going as Anakin Skywalker when he's turned sith so it's going to be real expensive, for the lightsaber specifically. Not to mention entry fees for cons.

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>>51886210
>>51886201
damn. well to their credit the Phoenix Lords don't look too bad but they need an up to date paint job.

>>51886904
>>51887019

Plus, again, at 1k, your games as GK will be SHORT. If you do fail, c'est la vie.

My quick tip is: Take either a dreadnought or a Vindicare assassin. They're invaluable for long-range shooting. Especially the Vindicare because you really lack a means of popping AV14, especially at long range. He can drill a LR before it becomes a problem.

>>51887030
then again. Poland here, so even if we did play in stores it wouldn't be that bad. From what i know footslogging ork horde is still competitive and used in tournaments.

>>51887015
>Le exclude people who politely ask questions is fun XDDDDDDD
>Le secret 4chan meme club XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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>>51885955
Any word on the next expansion? I love grey knights and my next hobby project was going to be heresy era dark angels/fallen. Will I be able to make any army of them together?

Inb4 grey knight help cypher kill the emperor using their super secret box on titan

>>51887053
>ORK IS STRONK
>FUCK YOU COMMISSARRRRRR KURWA SPIEDERLAGH

>>51887058
http://bloodofkittens.com/games-workshop-rumor-leak/

>>51887019
>Like i said, deep strike them, i like to measure 14 inches in every direction(gotta remember you place your guys in a circle around the dude you place) to minimize the possibility of mishaps and find that sweet spot
This sound strangely filthy

>>51887030
Ive never played in someones house but i have run into very little cheese out in the world, most players just want to spend a saturday throwing dice and showing off painting skills

>>51887039
Yeah, can't afford both loc and the two boxes

>>51887083
yeah, some people actually yell KUGHWAWAAAAAAAAAA instead of typical WAAAGH.
it's fun

>>51887030

That's because you tolerate more bullshit if it's from friends instead of strangers. I'll play a friend who cheeses or plays Tau/Eldar but that doesn't mean I'll do it for strangers.

>>51887176
or, you know, have decent friends?

>>51887049
>>51887019

Grey Knights are not the army you play to win.

They're the ones you play to put more effort into painting a single random dude than you would normally put into a HQ.

They're the one you play on the off-chance that one time, someone puts down a Daemon army even though they'll wreck you.

>>51887200
>hur dur I only befriend people who don't mess around or who have the exact same tastes and preferences for competitiveness as me

Yeah you sure sound like a "decent" friend who has tons of friends.

>>51887203
They used to be a cool army that only diehards played back before 5th edition. I'm glad to see thats where they've landed again

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>New Dark Angels are coming out
> They're going to be 40k stuff in black armour
>I've been painting up 30k stuff in green to use with the rest of my army

WHAT THE FUG PAINT JOB AM I SUPPOSED TO USE

>>51887220
Why befriend people if you have incompatible tempers?

>>51887129
You gotta have fun with these games, my friends and I always say epic challenges to each other when our leaders fight, if something really awesome happens we write short stories about it

>>51887223

They got a little less cool with the stupid baby carriers

Did gw ever clarify if the storm surge can fire more than 2 weapons a turn in the FAQ?

>>51887220
not really, sorry if i looked like this. I have only two other people who are into warhammer, but if i had to judge i am the biggest cheesemonger there. But i play orks, so my cheeseness doesn't really do anything.
And if i can say something about my friends. Necron guy genuinely doesn't care about winning or loosing as long as armies are on equal footing.
SM guy loves to paint, playing is kinda secondary to him.

>>51886330
The venomthropes will get sniped out turn 1, you're going to have a bad time.

But don't listen to me I'm a cynical old fag who was playing nids since long before we had to rely on venomthropes. Try it and see what happens, then post the battle report in these threads.

>>51887203

No, they're the army you're stuck with after bandwagoning Draigowing back in 5th.

How do I magnetize a Cadian Squad for all options?

>>51887247
Seems fun. We kinda just talk a lot if something epic had happen and that's it.

>>51887267
Q: Can Gargantuan Creatures shoot all of their weapons at
different targets, or can they only shoot two different weapons at
two different targets?
A: They can shoot all of their weapons, at different
targets if desired.

>>51887298

They are weak and not the true chosen of Titan.

And are a buncha bitches.

>>51887240

If you think just because you're less competitive at someone at a game you both like that makes you "incompatible", you're definitely an autist/no friends.

>>51887229
i'm getting the feeling dark angels are gonna have a schism so your green guys should be fine, but they'd need to go black if you wanna hang out with Cypher

>>51887267
how is this even a question?

>>51887298
>stuck with after bandwagoning
>Assuming bandwagoners *stick* to anything that isn't FotM / top tier

>>51886330
>run up the middle
Never a good idea to run all your guys in one pattern
>Abusing Venomthrope save
Yeah, not gonna happen, you don't "abuse" that save, it's not even a great save. That save is the bare minimum you need just to stay alive.

>>51887303

Pretty easy as most options include the entire arm

One guy for Flamer/Grenade/Lasgun
>aka the Special

Sergeant gets magnets in his torso for each arm too.

Vox magnet in final back

>>51886985
Space Wolves, or IG, depending on what you got.

How do I start a 1000 point daemons army? I've got a nurgle sc, a tzeentch sc, and a box of horrors (blue and brimstone) as well as 20 more plaguebearers and a prince.

>>51886985
Run them as a special IG Regiment. The Sub 6 Foot Brigade.

>>51886885
Thanks man, I appreciate the help. I got some more building and reading to do now but at least I'll be busy

>>51887391
>Open codex + Big Rule Book (open to Combined Arms section) + (optional: Curse of the Wulfen)
>Create a legal CAD or a Daemonic Incursion
>???
>Play a game.

>>51887337
We all have different levels of competitiveness and as sensible people agree on what leve to bring to the table.

Only a complete autist would huff and stomp his foot and demand people play his triptide.

>>51887340
Its gets worse when you consider that a portion of my army (Ravenwing) will always be in black....
Don't fuck this up GW I hate painting black.

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what do you think?

>>51886330

You have troops that aren't MSU Mucolids and the rest of your army isn't Flyrants, Lictors, and Mawlocs. So yes, it's shit. I mean, you're actually using warriors, melee fexes, and fucking rippers. Nids have exactly one build and are otherwise literally unplayable.

>>51887464
Ignore this idiot.

>>51887455
DiesToASingleLargeBlast/10

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>>51886431
>Guardians with lasguns
I WANT IT BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

What's the best way to make a Cadian Squad look like Vets?

>>51887448
black isn't too hard to do. prime black, drybrush grey, black wash. gives it a dirty look but it worked for my attempt to do black legion

white is a nightmare

>>51887464
You can't just tell a new player that. Let them experience it for themselves so they can be filled with the same fury and hate as the rest of us, until the uproar makes waves with GWs new social outreach team and they realize "hey people are really pissed we let a fucking mongoloid ruin Tyranids because of his childish grudge, we should probably fire that faggot so we can sell more Tyranids"

>>51887229
Do you even know Dark Angels lore? Pre-heresy is black, post-heresy is green. It's pretty simple.

>>51887455
why would you have big shootas on the koptas?
why doesn't the tankbustas have a car?
why mega armour? then he cant run.
why kannons? why not plasma cannons?

>>51887493

If you're running both vets and guardsmen, just add a while stripe onto the vets' helmets or shoulderpad.

>>51887522
I thought that was for Whiteshields, AKA conscripts?

>>51887471
He's not an idiot. It's pretty much true. He's just being a dick about it to someone clearly new.

>>51887527
I thought that too

>>51887485
play corsairs

>>51887340
This was not only a question, but many fiery debates back in the day. ESPECIALLY when the storm surge came out and jealous bitter bitches were looking for ANY excuse to fuck them over, despite arguably hurting nids with the decision more.

>>51887530
>He's not an idiot
Wrong as usual.

>>51887503
First of all, it isn't, because the chapter colour scheme is split based on company, with the 1st and 2nd companies having totally different palettes. Secondly, if you read our conversation you'll notice we're talking about rumours that the Dark Angels chapter and their successors will have a Cypher-induced schism and that might lead to the adoption or reintroduction of the black armour.

>>51887499
I have enough biker lads that I'm well versed in painting black, the part that I dislike about it is how much more edge highlighting a black biker needs compared to say a tactical marine.

>>51887493
Different armor color, or a shoulder pad colored differently or different fatigues or get a Start Collecting Militarum Tempestus box and use the beret heads for them.

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>>51886893
> Another anon shows up to post raptors
> Shitposts just like the original raptors anon.
I hope to god you start a monstergirl army just like raptors anon did. It'll make this board even more entertaining.

>>51887569
I know, but it makes far more sense to swap and have the 30k stuff be black and 40k stuff be green, since the fallen are generally pre-heresy. Just paint 30k stuff black instead and use those instead of the 40k stuff in black.
Though really you should just wait until it releases because whatever it is, it's probably going to be fucking stupid and counter intuitive.

>>51887508
>>51887474
so more boys, get rid of mega armor, put tankbustaz into a trukk/wagon, equip koptaz with a rokkits and reduce the amount of mek gunz but give them plasma?

>>51887598
Nah, me and him have chatted here before. I don't really like him.

>>51886988
Studying and maybe painting for about an hour when I'm not with my gf

>>51887620
The new raptors anon, or the old one?

Local FLGS is looking for someone to work in the backroom/shipping for decent pay. Wish me luck boys. I'll leak new GW shit if I can.

>>51887045
>attractive male, fit

Post pics no homo :^>

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>>51886988
>What are you plans for this weekend?
Celebrate my birthday and blow cash on plastic cocaine.
>What games are you going to play?
none
You DO have games lined up, right?
...no

>>51887565
Wow great argument man! Sure showed me!

>>51887613
>so more boys

ahahahah, no.

>>51887653
Not an argument.

>>51887632
I'm the new raptor anon, I guess (I fucking hate that title, please don't do this to me). I don't really like old raptor anon, his shit is too "tacticool" and he's pretty autistic/annoying.
Please don't make me the new Raptor anon. I don't want that, they aren't even my main army, or my second, they're my 3rd or 4th

>wanna add a few =][= Stormtrooper units to my GKs
>no single squad formation for tempestus

Dammit. I wanted some grav-chuting stormtrooper support.

>>51887653
You do realize your 'argument' was "No, he's right, trust me". You're both stupid.

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I hate people like this very much.

>>51886988
work, emailing some contacts about a job/internship.

on the 40k side i got some dire avengers and eldar battle force to assemble. gonna paint them up in pieces since the vyper and wave serpent have bits i can't reach when glued. gonna do all the infantry without arms to avoid the fiasco i had before (also gonna prime less heavy)

>>51887680
Just run an Airborne Assault formation, it's not that big

>>51887598
Are all Raptors players just shitty autists? I had considered playing them at one point but these faggots have kind of spoiled it for me.

>>51886395
>armchair commando

Optical sights work just fine as telescopes, the cardinal points aren't recessed so far that you can't focus if you hold up the lens close to your eye (and they wouldn't be a huge amount of use if they were).

>sight goes on gun!

Fuck off. Gun is heavy. Sight is relatively fragile. Sight frequently doesn't go on gun and may be more useful in hand anyway, especially if it means not swinging a 7 kilo gun + a heavy optical sight around and giving away your position to closer enemies than the ones you want to observe.

Besides, for a Ratling or a Space Marine iron sights are probably fine up to the first couple of kilometres ;-)

>>51886988
Going back to the store to play Sunday. Got my 30 Conscripts painted up so I'm ready to have some fun. Sadly not all my Bullgryns are built, so I can't use my big squad of 6.

>>51887437
It's one thing to refuse to play against Tau, it's another to refuse to be friends with someone who plays Tau. If you introduce 40k to your friend and he picks Tau because big robots are cool, what are you gonna do, huh? Autist.

>>51887655
at 750pts ork boyz can do ok.

>>51887665
Oh, it's Carnac.

Jesus dude how are you ALWAYS online?

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>>51887707
>it's not that big
>1 Commissar, 1 Tempestus Scions Command Squad, 3 Tempestus Scions squads, 4 Valkyries

>>51887707

>820pts minimum
>without any upgrades at all
>including literally 4 valks

That's hardly a small addition.

>>51887679
At least old Raptors anon only posted his stupid conversions and didn't shitpost about "muh old superior models" like you did, Nu-Raptors anon.

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>>51887620
Actually come to think of it, despite how much I shitpost, I never actually insult other people's models.. I even very frequently give painting advice for people to do some more complicated techniques.

>>51887679
I hope you're not as rude in person as you are on this board.

>>51887708
I'm the OG raptors anon. I assure you that I'm not anywhere near as retarded in person as how I pretend to be on this board. I play herohammery casual games, where the emphasis is on just having fun.

>>51887527
I think conscripts are a white arrow, not a white line

>>51887613
yeah pretty much. boyz arent all that good so maybe storm boyz would be better instead.

but at 750pts i dont think it matters.

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>>51887754

>>51887754
Fair enough. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt this time raptor anon, don't squander it.

>>51887754
>rude
Hey, it's nothing personal, I'm sure you're fine IRL. I just don't give a shit about you as an anon

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>>51887774
I don't know if they updated it, but this is how they were when they were called a White Shield.

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>>51887263
I agree and the main reason I will sadly never field one.

Still don't understand why they couldn't make it like pic related

>>51887774
IIRC, "Conscripts" for a Cadian force are Whiteshields, they're one and the same. Until they become of age and are promoted into a regiment, they have a white stripe on the helmet and no other insignia. Obviously tradition will vary the longer a regiment is away from Cadia, or one not raised there.

>>51887780
> Confusing uneven-first coats for thick paints.
Yea no, they're thinned with 80% water. I haven't done the second coat on most of the model yet, since I'm still trying to find time to paint.

>>51887754
I think you and nu raptor anon should have sex

>>51887723
>It's one thing to refuse to play against cheese, it's another to refuse to play an entire faction.

>>51887797
Now I see why I thought it was a white arrow

>>51887780
pleb, if you think that's "unthinned paint"

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>>51887775
i know boyz are kinda shit but i though that at smaller point breaks that won't be that much of an issue.

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>>51887437
>Only a complete autist would huff and stomp his foot and demand people play his triptide.
Why do Riptides get so much hate when the average tournament has results like pic related?
Even with full Riptide Wings and Stormsurges Tau end up pretty much on-average. Yet you can't deal with a single Riptide?
Even if you're playing a below-average codex like Nids, I can't think of a reason to single out Riptides, much less all of Tau, when literally every codex in the game is keeping you from having fun.

>>51887612
You're right, I put too much confidence in GW.
Its probably just going to be an 80 dollar primarch model in black armour and I'm sperging out for nothing.

>>51887928
What the fuck is with that graph? As someone who went to college for a physics major, this graph gives me cancer. There's necks on those bars, but no indication of what those even mean. Nor any way for me to figure out because your X-axis is completely unused.

Who is better? Gork or Mork?

>>51887928
single Riptide =/=Triptide.

>>51887754
>all those small hairs and unremoved mold lines

You didn't even try.

>>51887927
It won't but don't start sperging out and buying boys because you'll just regret the purchase in the future.

Keep the number of boys you've got at the moment and don't waste money on more.

>>51887952
gork obviously. it's better to be cunningly brutal

>>51887928
Because those results don't account for allies. Many of the top "Eldar" lists are taking an allied Riptide Wing.

Marinefags also use them for justification why Grav, possibly the single most OP thing in the game, can't be nerfed.

>>51887951
I'd assume fat part is where thee majority of players in a given faction falls where ass the red line indicated overall player performance.

>>51887964
what about grots?

>>51887928
Who built this? What information is it supposed to portray?

New player here: what makes Riptides so OP? What are good counters to them?

>>51887927
i think that looks like a decent 750pts list.

just hide the trukk the first turn.

>>51887951
THIS. Why couldn't it have just been a series of Box and Whisker plots?

>>51887973
The cunning brutality of Gork cant stand up to the brutal cunnilingus of Mork though

>>51887998
Top tier tax troops.

>>51888025
a-anon, we're asexual remember? No brotherly love allowed.
Orkz can't love orkz.

>>51887963
They aren't hairs, those are model imperfections that I couldn't remove with a knife.. Once I'm done painting this contemptor, I'm going to use weathering effects to hide the more severe imperfections, or turn them into battle-damage.

>>51887984
That's useless because again, the X-axis is completely unused. There's no indication to the actual numbers behind the thickness of the bars, so we're left with only vague assumptions. If the creator was trying to convey some important information to us, he failed due to deliberately not giving us that vital bit of information.

How many eldar players are there scoring points at a specific level? How many orks? Necrons? Why are necrons nonexistent below the median line. Why is the median line constant for all factions?

There's so many questions, because OP cannot into graphs.

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>>51887754

>>51888034
guess it's time to buy some grots then, since you are saying that 40 boyz is enough.

>>51887998
>cheap
>giant pool of wounds
>good for tarpitting
>fulfill troop tax
>can fully hide behind cover because they're so small
pretty good to be honest. Might seem counter-intuitive, but they're better than boyz for tax in my opinion, even though they have terrible stats and wargear

>>51888063
kek

>>51887053
Ay Poland bro, you live in Warsaw or where? There is great shop on Żelazna 69a, I mostly go there
Nie będe pierdolił po ojczystemu na czanie ; ^)

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>>51888025
>brutal ork cunnilingus
guys this is not cool

>>51886502
Reporting back after the game: I actually just barely won against that, despite of what I figured would happen. Nuked one of the Crusader squads to shit in my first two shooting phases using my Warlord's Eradication Ray and 36 Grav shots. Those Neophytes actually saved them from being killed outright because of their 4+ armor. Meanwhile, I lost a Kataphron squad after one salvo from the bike killed one Kataphron, made them break morale and had them run 12" off the map immediately.
The second squad and the Chapter Master ran up against my Dominus Maniple, were barely softened up because the Skitarii only got a single salvo on them before they reached me and the Onager didn't do much either. Still managed to take out the Chapter Master using my Anzion's Pseudogenerator and a lucky Power Axe hit and ended up having like 14 Initiates and Neophytes tarpit in with the Dunecrawler and the Maniple's Dominus for 2 turns while my remaining Dominus and the 3 Kataphrons chased after the Bike to stop it from capping a point and winning by 1.
Ultimately ended up tabling the Black Templars, but only won just barely.

>>51888093
small city in zach-pom, but i'll be studying in poznan soon, they don't have any gw shops, but shitload of other ones. I know a few people so it'll be okay.
chwali ci sie

>>51888006
>what makes Riptides so OP?
T6 W5 2+/3++ FNP makes them hard to kill.
72" Ion Accelerator combined with Deep Strike and 2D6" or 4D6" thrust move means they have good pressure.
You can kit them with Skyfire, Interceptor, and Precision Shots.
The Riptide Wing formation gives them +1 BS when all units fire at the same target, keep them from failing Reactor rolls, and can forego moving to shoot twice OPG.
All this for 180 points stock.

But that's it, really. The weapons are okay at best and come at a much better price point on other Tau units. The real issue is that the only way to efficiently take it down is with Grav, AP2 spam, Psychic Phase shenanigans, and Sniper fire.
The codexes that have access to any of these tend to beat Tau easily. See Eldar, SM, IK, CSM, Demons, etc.
The codexes that don't lose to Tau, Eldar, SM, IK, CSM, Demons, etc.

>>51888128
>playing at gw
Don't. Find a local store/gaming club and just go there.

>>51888006

>what makes Riptides so OP?
It's crazy tough for its points. It dishes out too much damage too simply ignore.

>Counters
Grav weapons if you play marines.
It's the only non-fearless monstrous creature IIRC, so AP2 assault units can kill them in a sweeping advance *if* they catch them.

>>51888006
Insane durability, very fast, ability to pick whatever bonus it wants every turn with no downside really, significant firepower, no degradation in ability as it gets damaged and the ability to be supported by Markerlights to give all his guns Ignore Cover. Also is stupidly undercosted, so if the Tau player is a dick you see four or five at 1500, maybe more.

Counters: What army? Instant Death, obviously, although you'll need a bit to breach 2+ 3++ T6. Grav helps a bunch, so does plasma spam. Other armies have some tricks, but mostly shoot the Markerlights and other stuff first unless you have no other targets or probably kill it with one of the above.

>>51888162
it's not like we have any anyway anon~~. There's only one, and it's in the capital

>>51888025
>the brutal cunnilingus of mork

i didn't know that mork could please Slaanesh like this

>>51887844
dubs confirm this

>>51888148
My friend plays against one tau guy all the time, and he told me just ignore riptide.

>>51888177
>What army?
I play Dark Angels, so it looks like plasma spam will be the way to go if I ever face one.

>>51887053
>>51888093
>>51888128
> Dat feel when you run winged-hussar rough riders in 40k
> With a rough rider khan named "Wladislaw Ranini"
> Not even polish, just a history buff that fangasms over polish military culture.

This universe doesn't deserve how awesome the poles are.

>>51888207
I see you like charging tanks with those horses.

>>51888168
>non-fearless monstrous creature
Tau Ghostkeels aren't fearless either, and sweeping Riptides is a very satisfying thing to do.

Neither are Grey Knight Nemesis Dreadknights (but they have ATSKNF),
>but that doesn't stop them from fleeing off table.

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>>51888179
I know. I've played there. Once. Never will again.

>>51888199
If you can't realistically take down ANY unit in 1-2 turns, then it is best to ignore it (not counting huge LoWs, of course). This doesn't go for just Riptides.
At the end of the day, Riptides can only shoot at one thing at a time. And the weapons aren't really insane, Riptides don't wipe out a full unit every turn.

>aeldari

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>>51887552
I DONT HAVE MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>non-fearless monstrous creature
The fuck are you talking about? All mc are fearless.

>>51888207
this actually >>51888224
i fucking hate the myth of poles being good at military. hell, battle of warsaw from 1920 is called "a miracle" for a reason.

>>51888236
>And the weapons aren't really insane, Riptides don't wipe out a full unit every turn.
What army are you playing, bro? A S8 AP 2 BS 4 (or 5) ignores cover pie plate plus 4-8 twin-linked smart missile shots fucks up most things. Riptides tend to delete something almost every turn.

>>51888236
>At the end of the day, Riptides can only shoot at one thing at a time. And the weapons aren't really insane, Riptides don't wipe out a full unit every turn

>S8 AP2 Large Blast
>Paladins are 55ppm base, T4, 2W
>Bunched up nice and tight because they just deep struck.
>Or they're footslogging. Good thing it's a 72" gun.

Depending on the army. With my Grey Knights, Riptides just hurt my soul, but my Daemons don't care.

>>51888205
Yeah. I play Admech, so if I can get plasma and grav in range with a good BS buff (Cawl or Binharic Omniscience) I can take it. Dark Angels at least have the bonus of high cover everywhere which he does at least have to burn through. No grav-bikes?

>>51888236

>Don't wipe out a full unit every turn.

And is that the usual expectation from anything short of a Knight Titan? It does plenty of damage, friend.

Anyone got that pic of the guy bemoaning not being able to one-turn kill anything?

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>>51888258
except their not, most are by themselves but not the Monstrous creature type. On a related note chariots give fearless.

>>51888258
Nope. MC aren't fearless by default. Hell Daemon MCs aren't even Fearless, they got Daemonic Instability so better hope you don't lose combat.

>>51888224
I'm not even mad, but it's fucking hilarious how much bullshit I've gotten away with using these rough riders. I brought them to a tournament, and managed to gib an entire tank squadron with 10 rough riders.

Don't even get me started on how much they hard-counter ravenwing bikers.

>>51888274
Bruh, it's not about how effective they were in WW2. It's about how upsurdly bold the shit they pulled off was. The Polish Thermopylae being one of them, charging panzer tanks with cavalry being another.

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>>51888258

The Riptide and all Tau Monstrous Creatures are not.

They can bust Morale, which becomes more likely with drones.

Same with the Ork Squiggoth.

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>>51888047
It's late here but i'll try to bend it in neon for you

>There's no indication to the actual numbers behind the thickness of the bars
Does it matter if it's the majority of 50 eldar players or 200 that score 3800 points?
The percentage of player that preform in a certain bracket is what the thickness indicates.

>How many eldar players are there scoring points at a specific level?
Majority of Eldar scores in the 3800 range

>How many orks?
Most score 3k but not insignificant amounts rang into 4k and 2k

>Necrons? Why are necrons nonexistent below the median line.
Becasue in the sample no Necrons scored below 3200 points not above 4500

>Why is the median line constant for all factions?
Because it's the median point score of all players of all factions combined.

>>51888322
tell me more, about history actually. Since, you know, history of poland is kinda shit even in polish schools. Or i was really bad at listening

>>51888298
>No grav-bikes?
I'm trying to avoid using grav, I mostly focus on plasma. I went on a 40k hiatus for about three years and I came back and found out about grav... it just seems strange. I don't like to use it, but I guess I probably should.

>>51888292
>What army are you playing, bro? A S8 AP 2 BS 4 (or 5) ignores cover pie plate plus 4-8 twin-linked smart missile shots fucks up most things.
that's 5 markerlights.

>>51888258
No they aren't. Check the MC rules

>>51888236
>And the weapons aren't really insane

Always love when Taufags try to imply the Riptide has no teeth.

>>51888363
It's 2-3 markerlights and a Formation.

And one of the Formations lets any number of units share markerlights.

>>51888363
I count 3, correct me if I'm wrong
>one for +1 BS (now BS4)
>two for Ignores Cover

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>>51888224
REEEEEEEEEE

>>51888392
Hunter Cadre gives you BS boosts for multiple units firing at the same target, so you use two MSU pulse rifle FW squads, or one and a pathfinder squad shooting the markerlights in the first place.

Riptide Wing gives you a boost for each other Riptide that fired.

Other Formations give you higher BS for shooting anything within range of an arbitrary point you pick on the table, and so on.

In practice Tau are rarely starting from BS 3 base.

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>>51888274
Excuse me?

>>51888345
Actually it does matter that we know HOW MANY players there are in each faction, and play at what levels. Because it matters when you know how many tournament players there are in total, and what percentage total of the points that each faction takes up.

>>51888350
Well, the main thing to know about poland's military history is that about the group known as the Winged Hussars. The Winged Hussars were a polish mercenary group of all-cavalry, that participated in NUMEROUS battles across much of europe between 1577 to 1683. They were so badass, that they were frequently the deciding factor in battles where they were outnumbered by even 5 to 1. Their uniform basically consisted of heavy plate-armour with an enormous set of wings attached to their shoulder plates.

In more modern days, Polish tank and cavalry divisions still wear a crest of silver-wings on them, as a memory of the old winged hussars.

vanguard vets vs honor guard for salamanders?

>>51888486
Fluff wise Honour Guard

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>>51888453
> Not including the Battle of Wizna, where the vicious poles were outnumbered 52 to 1, and they held the line for 3 days straight.

>>51888513
you know heroic sacrifice isn't really the way to winning?

>>51888108
Nice, I made that list off the top of my head during lunch break, but I actually play templars and never field bikes of any sort. Did the attack bike do well? Was it annoying? I'm thinking of picking some bikes up. Also I have no clue what skitarii can do but what exactly did you use to vape the chapter master? Is it like a power fist? And I'm guessing the orbital strike didn't hit lol

>>51888534
It is on a strategic standpoint. Note the casualties inflicted on both sides, DESPITE the enormous numbers difference. The germans and the poles lost roughly the same number of men, despite the poles being outnumbered by an enormous margin.

Those men were going to die anyway, and their position was considered absolutely vital that they delay the germans for long enough so that the larger parts of the polish army can maneuver into proper position to fight them.

You can bet that if there was 42,000 poles at Wizna, not one of the germans would have made it out alive. The only reason the germans were even winning against poland was strictly because of their enormous man-advantage. Poland simply didn't have enough men to defeat the entirety of germany's military.

>>51888207
>ywn follow Jan Sobieski the 3rd into battle and take part in the largest cavalry charge in human history to expel Muslims from Europe
Life is suffering

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>play my first game of non-killpoints
>my DE vs his eldar, 1250 pts
>lose my archon to s6 weapon because of course I do
>still manage to table my opponent
>all except for a single, unladen fire prism, far away from all objective points and more importantly, away from my assaulting units, even kabalites
>he's also in my deployment zone
>he has one point more than me
>reroll 2 extra turns
>get my squad of 9 kabalites, who'd have been able to glance on 6s with 3 attacks each, in range to assault, as well as my talos, who could easily have shredded it
>both fail their charges by 1
>he wins as a result

>>51888510
no models for them unfortunate gonna have to make some yourself

>>51888148
Side note - neither the FNP nor the ion accelerator are stock. Taking both will cost another 40 points.

>>51888553
The bike was mostly annoying since Kataphron Destroyers only have a 4+ armor save and 5 tougness. Being a unit of 3, killing one forces a morale check.

The Orbital scattered way off the board, yeah. And I softened the Chapter Master down to 2 wounds during shooting with 6 Plasma shots, 3 Volkite shots and my Icarus Array (which is a bunch of Autocannons and rocket pods with Skyfire). Then my Tech-Priest got into a challenge with him later and the Pseudogenerator lets him do an extra D6 S4 AP5 Shred attacks, one of which hit and caused a wound, followed by the Power Axe wound. He then missed 4 of his 6 attacks and my 4++ shield blocked the remaining two so that was pretty sad.

Overall, the bike was pretty decent. Had me haul ass to get it off the point in time to not lose (played Crusade). I was more shocked that I actually managed to get one of the Crusader units into combat while footslogging. Might just try that myself with my own Templars one day. Though granted, one of the two squads didn't even manage to walk more than 6" out of their deployment zone before being killed, because Grav is fair and balanced.

>>51888148
And you have a >1/5 chance wounding yourself even WITH the FNP to get the 3++ from the regular 5++, or the 4d6" move.

>>51888674
Oh you poor thing.

>>51888128
Never went to Poznań, but Im sure they have some LGS. Dont go to GW though, there is one (I think the only one) in Warsaw, and the staff is shit. At least they are always empty so if you are desperate for a table to play with a mate or so you can just ring them, and they will probably have a table.

>>51888674
Should be 40 points each or more

>>51888467
The hussars didnt even wear those wings in battle, just saying. Only on parades and such. But they are always painted with them becase they look badass.
>t.Polfag

>>51888711
they have two or three lgs actually. I recommend 'wilczek' and 'cube'. Though wilczek is kinda pricey and oriented on card games. cube is stellar tough.

>>51888686
>missed 4/6 attacks
:')
I haven't played a black tide list in ages but I want to try that mew respawning troops detachment from FoC. Grav is indeed fair and balanced tho, but good to know the neophytes actually soaked up some vital shots, maybe I'll start using them again too

>>51888756
It's actually suggested that they DID wear the wings in battle, because the loud noises they would have made can be used as a psychological weapon. It could fool people into thinking the cavalry charge is far larger than it actually is.

It's still pretty fucking badass.

Is there no deathwatch codex in the mega files, or am I just retarded?

>>51886988
I'm gonna play a massive Apocalypse game tomorrow for my store's birthday.
GGA here so expect pics

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Easy ways to make dark eldar better:

>Combat Drugs on Kabalites, Archon, Talos
>Give archon T4 and/or eternal warrior
>make Splinter weapons S2
>let Raiders/Ravagers take Flickerfields again
>let Taloses/Incubi/Wyches Run and Assault

>>51888686
Also wtf let's you take grav weapons? IG and chaos are truly btfo. I didn't know ad mech had grav too

>>51888699
>>51888749
What? It's disingenuous to imply those are the stock options, and cut 40 points.

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Are assault cannons ever worth it for razorbacks? I'm making a mechanized list.

>>51887707
Any chance you mean the Hellrain Brigade (the Start Collecting formation)?

>>51888785
Cavalry charges are terrifying enough without giant winged bastards coming at you. You're lucky if you die on impact instead of being trampled to death by thousands of knights horses

>>51888818
kataphron destroyers can take heavy grav cannons.

>>51888818
Kataphron Destroyers are the only AdM unit that gets grav, freely interchangeable with their plasma culverins

>>51888782
Yeah, all those misses were pretty silly. My Eradication Ray also had 5 hits, wounds on 2+ and I rolled 4 1s.

That experiment definitely showed that Neophytes are pretty fucking good for Templars if you know you'll face Grav Spam. It's a huge difference if it wounds on 4+ or 3+. Might bring a Castellans Detachment for footslogging with a Chaplain and Ministorum Priest to get my boys Zealot and fill the 2 Faction rule for cheap, then just bring a shitload of bodies if I can afford to buy like 20-40 more guys any time soon while also buying that Vindicator I wanted for a while.

>>51888818
Kataphron Destroyers. Cult Mechanicus Troop choice. 165 points, 3 models, WS/BS 3, S 5, T 5, W 2, SV 4+, M 8. Have pseudo-Relentless and can either take a Salvo 4/6 Grav Cannon with 30" range or a 24" range Plasma Cannon with 2 shots. Grav will always shoot 6 because they can fire at full capacity because of their Relentless equivalent.

>>51888760
Fun to see some fellow Pollacks here, makes me proud.
>tfw I go to a lgs for the first time
>afraid to use terms like "cheese" and "WSIWYG"
>they actually use it themselves
Fucking cool I tell you.
And yeah, Figurkowe Gry Bitewne in Warsaw are fucking badass. Learning 40k in there is pure fun.
Jak którys z chłopaków to czyta to pozdrawiam i dzięki za kawe

>>51888855
Anythng with rending is always worth it anon

>>51888818
Admech has comparatively shitty grav. 6 shots, BS3 no amps, deepstrike or psykers on a 55pt 4++ T5 2W platform. It's still really good, but less OP and more just a glass cannon unit. The problem (And the brie) comes when I use Cawl or something to buff their BS up a tad and they start dumping 14 AP2 wounds on everything, which is why I don't run him or WarConvo.

If anything, Admech should have it, to be fair. We do have all the wacky and wonderful oldtech guns. I think it should be like 30k, where it's a surgical tool with 18" range on 80pts Cannot Run models, but really damn strong.

>>51888817
why make splinter guns s2 if they're poison?

>>51888860
Wouldn't you have loads of spears and men backing you up, so any riders preferably don't even get near to you without killing themselves?

>>51888856
That might work too. Sounds more fun at least

>>51887716
Wanna know how I know you have no idea what you're talking about?
>kg

>Sight frequently doesn't go on gun
It goes on before you go out to go kill people and it stays on so it maintains zero so you can kill people with it. And if a ratling has to look through a scope to see them, they're probably far enough away to not be able to see a ratling move a rifle into position.

Fuck you

>>51888892
disregard that I'm stupid, I thought poisoned weapons can't hit enemies whose toughness is too high.

replace that with
>give them at least one skyfire weapon

>>51888892
I presume he wants that so they at least ID Brimstone Horrors, which fucks over Dark Eldar and Dark Eldar alone in them having W2 T1. I always thought they were S3, since it seems reasonable that they're poisoned autoguns.

>>51888887
so close
come to think of it, our first visit to LGS was weird. Like we were circling it for two or so months. After that we came in, i bought one thing. After few weeks, my friend bought one thing. And finally after about two months, we played first game in there.
We were 18 though and all the guys were far older.

So I bought some skellies from Fantasy and want to use them in my LatD army as enforcers. But the spears I wanted to use are in right hand, the same as all the pistols in IG boxes. Wat do?
Also I have to use my fucking hobby knife to cut off the heads because they come assembled.

>>51888936
Im the youngest guy in store and the first time I came I just looked at the boxes. But when I relaxed and play my first almost real game I started to talk to people and its kinda chill.