Song of Swords: Hobo War Soon

>>51874788
How the heck does no one ever see through Gizka's crossdressing bullshit.
That is obviously a woman.

I don't care what Jimmy says, I'm going to get her pregnant

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SWOOOOOOOOOOOORDS

>>51874853
"her" as a word implies Gizka is not a mongoose filled with undead spirit rats.

>>51874901
https://youtu.be/OyuIAUlL5IU?t=89

me and your waifu winkyface

>burd with suped up powerarmor and a halberd
>burd with suped up powerarmor and a pollax
Hmm. I wonder.

Here's an indirect shill thread:
https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?798929-quot-Realistic-quot-combat-Simulationism-solving-gamism-and-narrativism&p=20857244#post20857244
There's no need to talk more about Song of Swords. In fact, probably avoid doing so to avoid looking like we're forum sliding, even if a local asks it's probably better to give a brief answer than to go off on a great soliloquy extolling the system's virtues. As long as the thread is bumped, the first post is advertisement enough.

Also, somebody go answer this fuck already: https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?798889-Sell-me-on-Song-of-Swords

Lorea Mendoza, you forgot that buying an Attribute up to 9 costs 6arc, not 4arc. You're two over budget.

>>51875011
Subject 19, you're four under budget. Sloppy.

>>51874853
In a world where 100% of women have long hair and dress like women, seeing a slightly girlish guy probably wouldn't set your mind to wondering if it were actually a girl.

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>>51874853

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>>51875422
This is Gizka on her second pregnancy

>>51875492

Please stop

Bones et al:

Are you gonna make a thread on ENworld, or should I? Looking at the brazen monkey's balls on that Zweihänder guy, we clearly don't need to be too subtle about it. He's got $60k on a game that honestly just looks like a shit, purely by being ballsy with marketing.

>>51874788
Booones, Boooonnes! If you're still here, enworld has like, weekly RPG kickstarter threads, here's the current one.

http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?526472-RPG-Crowdfunding-News-039-LexOccultum-A-Strange-Box-Bedlam-Hall-Mutant-Mechatron-Tales-of-the-Warrior-Princesses-Yarr!&p=7034873#post7034873

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>>51875514
Gizka should have freckles

I successfully shilled to both of my RPG groups, and only had to use the "as soon as I've got the release version I'm running a campaign so buy it you faggot" threat once.

Also, some randos at the flgs.

So, when the fuck is the tournament exactly? All we have is 'sometime tomorrow', which doesn't give people much time to plan for.

>>51875837
Early afternoon in the Pacific timezone, so that's around 4pm or so on 4chan time. The fights will continue throughout the weekend. We're not on any strict time completion limit.

>>51875852
I work weekends, so hopefully I can get in.

http://imgur.com/a/uCm8e

Another fighter for the pile.

>>51875852
>4pm or so on 4chan time
That's Eastern, right? I should be off by 5 or so central.

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>>51875974

>>51875974
You have the Spear-Sunderer talent twice

>>51875974
I don't think you tallied your school properly. I get 23 points for it.

Old thread
>>51849620

>>51875588
Right well, looks like that's leaving it to me, so I've made a thread. Y'all go shill now.
http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?526658-Song-of-Swords&p=7035006#post7035006

>>51875588
>>51876461
Looks like you beat me to it--I only just got back.

>>51875622
I'm almost always here. Just not always able to post or act until I'm home. Link and the research is much appreciated.

>>51875631
Can rats have freckles?

>>51876818
>>51876461
He beat me too, but I went ahead and put in a post on the thread I linked.

>51876133
>>51876106
My bad, thanks for pointing I out. I definitely miscounted. I'm going to drop dagger and 2h sword. I think that takes care of the numbers

I'll also fix the talents. Thank you again for pointing it out. I'll post the updated version in the morning if thatso not to much of an problem.

>>51876818
Maybe they're like Morgan Freeman freckles.

>>51876818
How's that video coming along?

>>51876975
Is anybody else getting worried by all these people making mistakes in chargen?

>>51877106
I figure that if I point out mistakes right before the fecht, the other guy will have to gut their build in a hurry and make bad op decisions as a result.

>>51877122
Right but I mean as a wider issue. If people here are getting it wrong so often, that doesn't bode well for the wider audience.

>>51877106
>the point of the tourney is also to teach the rules as an exhibition
>get worried when people are still learning the rules

>>51877154
Did you ever try to keep track of all your modifiers in D&D 3.5?

>>51877154
Don't worry, Opaque has got $20,000 for editing now. The game will be so easy to learn when they're done that you'll already know it.

I remember a mention of 5-for-3 skill package things a couple of threads ago. Is that in use for the tourney?

>>51876858
Also appreciated, and a very well formulated post. I'll add some thoughts.

>>51877056
On schedule.

>>51877213
When's it meant to be released? In the next week or so?

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Here are the current houserules in mind for the tournament. If anyone has any suggestions to add, suggestions for what should be removed, or questions about what's here, let me know.

http://paste2.org/wNXD3ney

>>51877106
No. SoS has a lot of niggling little math and no aids to help you out. It's not a shocker there are lots of mistakes. There are probably more that nobody has caught yet. This is exactly how the first couple tournaments went.
>>51877187
I don't know anything about that, but do what you want for skills. The only one with any combat application here is Intimidate.

>>51877106
Heh, I forgot that my main weapon's main damage was P and not C.


>identify every object that matches description: self
>gives me a picture of the inside of a library
Fucking hell captcha

Reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOKgDgjHDtM

>>51877246
>implying Persuasion and Subterfuge can't be used

>>51875186
>Subject 19, you're four under budget. Sloppy.
Accounted for and corrected, among other changes and additions.
http://paste2.org/KKCn2hem

Where can I find information on the magic system? if it has been revealed yet.

Hey, isn't Lorea illegal? They only have 1 PCP in skills, rather than 3.

>>51877951
And they have the highest power level. What a coincidence!

>>51877951
That rule was never explicitly codified. It was brought up, but the conversation turned towards allowing "championing" a skills based character rather than forcing skills on someone.

Personally, I find it to be an arbitrary and needless restriction, since the actual amount of competency (in dice) provided by Skill PCP is almost negligible and can actually be outpaced by simply stacking INT.

Never mind that implementing that rule would damage my build.

>>51878000
You're a cocksucker. Everyone who heard "Let's make actual characters to put in the book!" and decided to turn in a murderhobo is cocksucker. Please neck yourself.

>>51878000
Does INT still provide Skills? I couldn't find it in 1.9.9. Besides, if you have fewer than 3 PCP into Skills, that's a pretty significant murderhobo marker.

>>51877951
The tournament rules don't explicitly state a minimum Skills investment, but I think we did talk about it at one point.

>>51877943
Several test-level magic systems are out there, and they should be in the MEGA in the OP. Ballad's Void Magic, The Unkindley's Blood Magic, and Dark Pyromancy in the Star Vampire pdf.

>>51877457
Now I want Toehead photoshopped into a Dugtrio.

>>51878032
>Does INT still provide Skills?
It's not mentioned in the Attribute listing, but is explicitly stated in the Skills section.

>>51878058
Sweet. Let me get right on that, then!

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>>51878032
Right here homes

>>51878000
>Personally, I find it to be an arbitrary and needless restriction, since the actual amount of competency (in dice) provided by Skill PCP is almost negligible and can actually be outpaced by simply stacking INT.

That's not the point. The point is help restrict people from making murderhobos.

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>>51878024
>tfw only coming in at an 11 on the Hobo Scale

>>51878102
Its a bad rule for a good idea.
We want lore friendly characters that are characters right?
The level of skills pcp shouldnt matter for that. It can contribute, but its not so fundamental to the issue to be the rule, but a measuring stick.

This is a world locked in strife, full of mercenaries and monsters. These people exist in Vosca, and I think execution matters. It's important to go for the fluff as well as the mechanics, and iirc the slot holder said he'll use his executive privilege to confirm or deny based on how much he likes the character/idea/whathaveyou.

Really, though, Skill-dumping is just an artifact of how shitty it is at chargen and that this is still, essentially, an entirely combat driven tournament. I really wouldn't mind if the Rule of 3 was implemented.

>>51878024
Start your own Tournament next week with another KS prize of some sort with your own rules then.

A little late to fix this one now.

And I'd rather all the people coming to the system feel they are free to make the strongest characters possible so they feel comfortable making more story orientated ones later.

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>>51878073
http://paste2.org/319CYnO2

>>51878118
I think I'm, like, a 4.

>>51878221
This was never meant to be a murderhobo contest. Even if someone wins, it's up to the dude with the VN+ pledge to decide if they want to even use that character or not. They don't have to do shit.

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>>51874788
http://paste2.org/MFjhMMhz
Remade the Gallian and added a second character in light of the new weapon restriction of carry everything.

>>51878241
I'm sure it wasn't, but no one put forward a character concept for new people to follow, nor did we enforce rules early on for 6 Attribute caps.

I will say that with everyone murderhoboing that no one really is.
Only that we've made non-plate armor somewhat useless.

>>51878384
Most of the issue is that people stopped putting the rules in the OP. So when new people came in, they had to rely on anons to give them the rules. Which might have been wrong, or left things out (accidentally or otherwise).

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REAL UPDATES
Gunther: http://paste2.org/IeGebPP1
Kal Desar: http://paste2.org/sYmyIexv

>>51877456
>shelf


>>51878846
Seems accurate.

>>51877456
>>identify every object that matches description: self
>>gives me a picture of the inside of a library
Pro tip
All those newfangled captcha images, you can just hit Skip without clicking any pictures. When it's asking you for wheels or shelves or anything else. Usually the pictures have a huge number of black squares. Just hit Skip. It works.

>>51875186

Don't you buy attributes before the racial bonus applies though?
As in I buy something up to 8 and then I get Burd, making them 9.

>>51879142
Ah, you are correct. Let me tabulate again...

>>51879166
>>51879142
My earlier mistake was tabbing your Int as 9 bought and not 8 bought. Which makes your total 176 arc, 4 points under budget.

What is with you burds and shorting yourself a an attribute?

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>>51879194
>shorting yourself a an attribute
>a an attribute
>a an

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>>51879214
I'm auditing character sheets, not grammar on an Atlantean coral sculpture board.

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Another day another data point. After a good day, the expected value is ever so slightly closer to 26000 than it was.

>>51879250
So it's looking like we'll just barely make the Mystery Box?

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>>51879214
Check your privilege there white working-class female.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/02/22/university-of-washington-declares-correct-grammar-is-racist/

>>51879294
Barring a significant event widening the donating population beyond its current expected bounds, yes.

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>>51879298

>>51879294
Well, based on the math, yes. But it doesn't take into account that kickstarters usually increase in funding a bit due to their end (the math doesn't even know that there will be an end) and if any of those marketing/promotion connections actually pull through, that could bump the numbers up too. I don't expect some astronomical change, but if one or both of those happen and are kind of big, we could end up even as high as $30k. That's not a likely number, but it's well within the realm of possibility.

>>51879298
I have a feeling that article isn't accurately describing the facts.

>>51879398
Check it out yourself https://www.tacoma.uw.edu/university-writing-program/writing-center

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>>51879398
I don't even read any of the news from my country anymore, there's no happy ending to be had. Either you are reminded of the sheer boldness of the fucking lugenpresse or you are reminded that all of your countrymen are fucking retards.

This hurts a lot more in Finland because we pride ourselves on not being gullible or retarded

>>51879429
>The writing center works from several important beliefs that are crucial to helping writers write and succeed in a racist society.
>The racist conditions of our society are not simply a matter of bias or prejudice that some people hold. In fact, most racism, for instance, is not accomplished through intent.
>Racism is the normal condition of things. Racism is pervasive. It is in the systems, structures, rules, languages, expectations, and guidelines that make up our classes, school, and society.
>For example, linguistic and writing research has shown clearly for many decades that there is no inherent “standard” of English. Language is constantly changing. These two facts make it very difficult to justify placing people in hierarchies or restricting opportunities and privileges because of the way people communicate in particular versions of English

>muh language is always evolving meme

The whole point of a single standard of english education is to *prevent* languages fracturing into dialects and maintain the ability of the populace to communicate within itself capably. Clarity and precision of language is especially important in a society governed by so extensive a body of laws as the US has.
And calling it all racist ignores the MANY demographic divides that break up a language, the easiest to establish being simple geography.

REE, etc.

>>51877927
Note that we're not allowing electrified weapons because they're insanely good. You'll have to keep its electro-shocker field turned off.

>>51879536
The electrifying motor is "jammed" for the purposes of the tourney, yes. If it comes to sidearms, I intend to complain bitterly IC about it.

>>51879194

https://paste2.org/0n4vDxkE

Not sure, but here's a fix

>>51879429
Well, fuck. You're write, and so is Breitbart.

I will say that there's a completely respectable and non-bullshit linguistic argument to be made that language is not objective and that it has a heavy racial component which can be a vector by which discrimination occurs, but that's not the argument they went for.

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Hey, whoever's making characters with this dogshit character sheet, there's nowhere your CP is listed. Write it down somewhere, there's no reason why you should math that out every time you need it

>>51879298
>Breitbart
>Into the trash it goes

>>51879250
>>51879388
Matlab anon here, I'm on the case. I'm going to use all the KS's I've personally backed as bases to draw the function from, and see what I get.

>>51879836
In this case, they're right. >>51879429

>>51879869
Good Lord. And here I thought liberals would learn from Trump winning....

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Zeyaad Sulakir http://paste2.org/Y7fwO5V7 , you have "Hardened Leather Boots" on your feet. There are no Hardened Leather Boots in SoS, only normal leather boots. You probably just assumed they were there, I don't blame you for it.

>>51879944
Huh. They were a thing at one point, right?

>>51880000
Maybe. But they aren't now.

>>51880039
Goddamnit Jimmy.

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>>51874853

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>>51880576
I know all the right lines grrl

>>51879859
>>51879388
Alright, working with this is a giant pain in the ass, and probably going to give me an RSI. I assumed that the curves of Modiphius's Infinity and Conan KSs are close to ideal (the other, lower-total KSs trend towards that form), and finagled it with division (gets me at SoS total ~= 0.12 * Infinity total for that day). Comes out to somewhere between $34k and $40k.

Also, I had to go to a 9th-order polynomial to get a real nice curve fit, and those are bullshit hard to translate to a new set of data.

Hi folks, are you still accepting characters for the tournament?

>>51881395
Yes

>>51881395
Tournament hasn't started yet.

>>51881430
>>51881432
Great, thanks

Can I stat a dirty footed peasant to sit in the stands and yell profanity and encouragement at the tournament fighters?

>>51882741
Only if you provide a decent explanation why the peasant would be allowed in the stands in the first place.

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Suppose a male Zell became a eunuch at around age 12. How differently would that affect him compared to a human?

>>51879944
>>51880039
Alrighty, I've removed the Hardened boots and retooled his armor a bit.

http://paste2.org/ywbvyCGw

>>51882798
There's not as much sexual dimorphism among Zells, so he'd probably be a pretty manly eunuch

>>51883040
That's what I figured. I'm just curious to know how it would affect the bane.

>>51880736
>working with this is a giant pain in the ass
Well, yeah.

Fixed Isaac for tourney
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-yrZAqSRCCdRmZPd0psaGd2UUU

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Jimmy, if a Dessian Silver Guard aquires more than 1000 Human Adherents, will he travel back in time when he dies?

>>51879388
It also doesn't take into account variation according to time of week. We started off with a bang, then got weekend posters, then flattened out more. That Monday drop could be making the projection line flatter than it should be.

I was reading over schools and it seems like most weapon types simply can not be used in self taught. Self taught requires you to take 2 instances of poor form at each tier including core maneuvers. Most weapon types only give you availability to universal maneuvers initially. That means you cant fulfill the poor form requirement.

Even if you didn't need to take poor form when you get core maneuvers you still couldn't get tier 1 with polearm because there are only 2 non universal maneuvers in the game for polearm and one of them only becomes available at tier 2.

I may be misreading something. If I did, I would appreciate it if someone could correct me.

>>51883608
Pretty sure it means you take poor form if they're available. You also have to remember that you don't take poor form for Superior versions of Universal maneuvers.

>>51883563
Is there actually a significant amount of variation due to time of week? I haven't analyzed it (and don't care to) but it doesn't seem obviously visible on other kickstarter curves.

>>51883694
If that's the case it may as well just say that you have poor form in all non universal maneuvers. Very few weapon types have enough advanced maneuvers to accommodate choice making

>>51883860
But that's a terrible idea. It's good as it is. You'd have to be pretty silly to think that you couldn't take a proficiency if it had less than 2 advanced maneuvers.

>>51883974
With the exception of 1h and 2h sword, when taking self taught, you WILL have poor form in all non universal maneuvers.

That's not a problem. I think it makes sense that, if you taught yourself, advanced maneuvers should be harder to learn. But if the net effect is approximately the same, why choose the more convoluted wording?

>>51884086
Because it'd make the school even more worthless than it already is. If they made all three proficiency slots a +0, then I could understand your suggestion. As it is, a -1 to 2/3 of your proficiencies and a +1 cost to every advanced maneuver is a bit harsh.

>>51884116
And a +1 cost to 2 advanced maneuvers per tier, I mean.

>>51884116
The only thing that would suffer from the change would be 1H and 2H swords. That is all. All other weapon groups would function exactly the same as they already do.

>>51884215
Why should 1h and 2h swords suffer?

>>51884240
I was pretty sure the focus of this system was realism. It seems realistic that teaching yourself advanced fighting maneuvers would be hard regardless of the weapon.

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>$19,999

>>51884268
I'll agree to this if we can remove instances of Poor Form at character creation at a reduced cost.
Primary Proficiencyx1 @ +0
Secondary Proficiencyx2 @ -1

All Advanced Maneuvers within the school gain Poor Form. Can be removed with 1 Arc. At character creation, you can remove 2 Poor Forms for 1 Arc up to X times.

>>51884317
I could get behind that. As long as the wording for buying them off is understandable I'd view it as an improvement.

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>>51884742
I would have given my wording more consideration, but I was between For Honor matches when I wrote it.

>>51884272
Don't worry, someone added another thirty dollars.

>>51884764
I mean, I understand what you meant. It's more that the rules in general are easy to misinterpret.

I do like the idea.

>>51884799
Hopefully someone more important than either of us takes note and considers it.

So, when does the tournament actually start?

>>51885584
When the first two combatants declare their nots

Is there going to be a bracket made before the tournament, or what? Now would be the time to make one.

>>51886656
Have the rape-trains fight each other as soon as possible.

>>51881437
You better get that character in within about half an hour.

>>51886687
May the best Burdinadin win the tournament

>>51886790
I haven't figured out the way to take down killakans without becoming cheesemonger myself.

>>51886858
Bring a halberd, or hope that you got one of the honorable murderhobos. The hoplite guy says he'll go without his OP spear against people that aren't murderhoboing.

>>51886858
Steal Initiative to Disarm or Hook
Build Unarmed or Wrestling for a specialization, then abuse it.
Rapid Strike with two crushing 1H blunt against their armor until the natural world overtakes them.

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Don't be this guy. Sort yourself out and get in the roll20!

>>51886910
>Build Unarmed or Wrestling for a specialization, then abuse it.
I wonder how well the Worm would do against our roster..

>>51887020
The worm needs arms and legs now to Jive. He would flounder on the floor like the dead fish he is.

>>51887403
>arms and legs
he only needs one arm or one leg

>>51887525
>all Grappling TNs are increased by 2

SoS should contain a simplified cheat sheet of basic functions.

>>51887638

The gamesmaster screen inserts?

I hope those inserts are something I can just throw on the table and people can shuffle through them while playing.

http://paste2.org/zgnDb1cU Ikesander last edit before tourney. Changelog: no longer has accuracy gained Impaler and Kebab Master

http://paste2.org/kHU6dWt1 Ozziah the Oathless, Ohanedin with a Grutte Zwei. I don't necessarily want to control him so anyone can take him over.

Rolled 89, 5, 38, 51, 81, 12, 98, 59, 14, 78, 25, 68, 94, 32, 23 = 767 (15d100)

Good news everyone! It's time to determine the tournament matchup!

Because we conveniently have 15 fighters (so far), we will do a single elimination tournament. Here's how we'll slot them. I'll roll 15d100 in order, and the smallest number will be pared up with the next biggest number for the first round. For instance, if I roll 15, 72, 38, then Akakios Drekelos will fight Baru Kaidhazu in the first round. If any numbers are repeats, the number further down will be increased by one. So if I roll 55, 55, 55, it'll become 55, 56, 57, in that order.

One person will be lucky! Unless we have a 16th fighter join in, they'll skip the first round and move straight on to the second! This will be the fighter with the highest die roll.

Are you ready? Let's roll!

#1 Akakios Drekelos

#2 Azariah Ikesandar

#3 Baru Kaidhazhu

#4 Florock Germak

#5 Gandicze, Subject 19

#6 Gunther Alder

#7 Isaac Lambert

#8 Jean-Grant

#9 Kal Desar

#10 Kasel Longsword Jobber

#11 Lorea Mendoza

#12 Regrótimo Formosa

#13 Rosalie Azevedo

#14 Theodore Grey

#15 Zeyaad Sulakir

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>>51887836
>Ohanedin with a Grutte Zwei

>>51887898
Looks like
>Ikesander V Alder
for our first fight.

>>51887898
>5, 12
#2 Azariah Ikesandar vs #6 Gunther Alder

>14, 23
#9 Kal Desar vs #15 Zeyaad Sulakir

>25, 32
#11 Lorea Mendoza vs #14 Theodore Grey

>38, 51
#3 Baru Kaidhazhu vs #4 Florock Germak

>59, 68
#8 Jean-Grant vs #12 Regrótimo Formosa

>78, 81
#10 Kasel Longsword Jobber vs #5 Gandicze, Subject 19

>89, 94
#1 Akakios Drekelos vs #13 Rosalie Azevedo

>98
#7 Isaac Lambert

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>>51887987
>>51887898
http://challonge.com/7p349uay

The tournament is organized. We're ready to begin!

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>>51888080
Little mix-up there with Rosalie and Isaac. It's fixed here.

>>51888115
I'm just sad I posted 2nd tourney character too late so someone gets a Bi. Bonus point is This definitely isn't the universe where I have to fight myself in a SoS tourney

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High above the Inner Sea, floating off the coast of the Orredin city of Helian, the tournament begins!

The first match begins now!
>#1 Akakios Drekelos vs #13 Rosalie Azevedo

>>51888399
FYI for anyone not in the Roll20, Drekelos is buck-ass naked. Because honor or some shit.
You know it's a good party when someone gets naked in the first five minutes.

>>51887898
Jean-Grant included another fighter on his updated sheet.

>>51888478
And first blood: a level-two bludgeoning wound to Rosalie's face from a shield bash.

So like TZMs. What if you have two weapons and they both stab at something with a +1 bonus ( say the chest). They obviously both get the extra dice but what about initiative? Which brings up another question. you've got two attacks, and someone steals initiative. Do they go before both attacks? If so should you get the +1 initiative from both attacks, as well as the +1 from each for stabbing? Or should they have to steal twice?

>>51888862
>Do they go before both attacks?
Yes

>>51888630
After rejecting her pleas for mercy, Akakios finishes Rosalie the John Galt way at the insistence of the crowd: an all-in thrust to the groin.

>>51888910
Which sword did he use? His sword, or his *sword*?

The first battle is over!
>#1 Akakios Drekelos vs #13 Rosalie Azevedo
Victor: Akakios!
Method of Victory: A level 5 falcata stab to the thigh.

>>51888924
Well, one of the hecklers in the audience phrased it as "thrust your sword in her scabbard". But no, his sword.
>>51888931
Her body was subsequently unceremoniously dumped over the side of the flying disc, to be food for the carrion birds and/or zells.

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>>51888962
>>51888931
But look at what could have been! Isn't it adorable?

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Late to the party, but here is Giot Vaneleaux du Galli.

>>51889126
If he ends up joining the tourney, he is only carrying the sword and shield. Everything else is with the horses, outside the tourney.

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The second match of round 1 is about to begin!
>#3 Baru Kaidhazhu vs #4 Florock Germak

New rule/talent proposal: For every level of length advantage that you have on your opponent, ignore that many TZM's. L to S ignores up to two dice, etc. Only works when you have a longer weapon, not when inside of reach.

Maybe total length difference -1?

>>51889410
TZMs need a lot of work. Nobody has successfully managed to create a satisfactory system for them.

>>51889395
And they've gone red-red! Today is a good day for the classics.

Current late entries to the tournament:

Sjornn Anfallare, Sea Raider
http://paste2.org/MFjhMMhz

Ozziah the Oathless, Ohanedin
http://paste2.org/kHU6dWt1

>>51889533
And first blood of the match! Baru went for a Disarm, but failed and instead took a level 2 wound to the chest from Florock's Weapon Toss!

>>51889690
I think one of them should fight lambert. The other can wait around for someone else to pair off against

>>51889690
>Sea Raider
does he intend to drink from my skull?

>>51889857
only if you're a manhunter

>>51889712
And Florock attempts to finish the prone Baru off with a dagger-stab to the groin... and did zero damage. A sad day for red/red fans everywhere.

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>>51889896

>>51889921
Florock attempts to redeem his earlier miserable failure by inflicting a level 2 wound to the thigh with a 12d thrust to the groin as Baru tries to stand up! Things look bleak for Baru.

>>51890099
Florok unleashed yet another groin-stab, again hitting the thigh and inflicting a level 3 wound! Quote from the roll20: "The thought of someone struggling to get up as they're repeatedly stabbed in the groin is genuinely horrifying"

The second battle is over!
>#3 Baru Kaidhazhu vs #4 Florock Germak
Victor: Florock!
Method of Victory: Multiple ballock dagger stabs to the inner thigh.

>>51890197
As before, once he was incapacitated by agonizing pain he was immediately and unceremoniously thrown off the platform to plummet miles to the sea below. He may have been conscious enough to see his watery grave rushing up to meet him.

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The third fight begins shortly!
>#2 Azariah Ikesandar vs #6 Gunther Alder

>>51890339
Looks like this is shaping up to be a polearm fight, with one lunatic dual-wielding spears vs. another person using a poleaxe.

>>51890387
One spear overarm
One spear underarm
Just to piss off Lloyd

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>>51890428

>>51889690
Current late entries to the tournament:

Sjornn Anfallare, Sea Raider
http://paste2.org/MFjhMMhz

Ozziah the Oathless, Ohanedin
http://paste2.org/kHU6dWt1

Giot Vaneleaux du Galli
https://i.4cdn.org/tg/1487977450152.pdf

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>>51874788
The latest of late entries my God and man has conspired against me.

http://paste2.org/axBHVUG3

I am deeply sure I have done the school wrong.

>>51890339
>>51890387
The match has been delayed by Gunther Alder getting lost and winding up in the Schwarzvald instead of the Orredin murder platform.

>>51890506

You're a human, drop the adoption cost by one per proficiency

>>51890506
BEAT THE BLADE

HOOK THE LEG

BEAT THE BLADE

HOOK THE LEG

>>51890554
Amazing! I feared I had underpaid.

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>>51890506
Good news. You have 7 PCP in Proficiencies, which means you Estoeric school will be correct if you raise it to level 8.

>>51890579
So this then?

Profs: (I have never done this right)
[2]+2 per Primary, +1 per Secondary
Creation cost: 2+2+2+1=7
Esoteric School Level 8 0.9gp
1H Blunt (+1) CP: 16
2H Blunt (+1) CP: 16
1H Sword (+0) CP: 15

>>51890592
>>51890579
Assuming this is true then this should be the final product.

http://paste2.org/J80wVKpC

>>51890672
Close. Your ADR is 8, so 8 ADR + 8 school level + 1 Esoteric primary bonsu = 17 CP for your primaries
and 16 CP for your 1H Sword.

>>51890729
So generous, best day of my life.

Third and final attempt.

http://paste2.org/ODvn7HEO

>>51890532
And now he's tried to engage a hilt push with a thrown weapon. The ref talked him out of it, but what does he think he's doing?

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Anyone not in the Roll20 is a loser.

>>51890825
>Big profile pics
>Wrong Room

What are you doing?

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>>51890841
You're right. This should be better

>>51890841
How do you make the pics small or go away?

>>51890854
Oh, you just have a small screen. Rip.

>>51890792
After an argument over whether bonus dice are added during or after a declaration, Gunther has managed to inflict a level 3 wound with a 1-die attack on Azaraiah's hand, rendering him prone! Given that nobody else in the tourney has managed to get up after going down, is this the end?

>>51890870
Gear on the far right has all the options in it.

>>51890870
In the settings menu, Player video/avatar size:
Set it to Name only

>>51890870
Cogwheel in the top right.

>>51890870
There's an option in the settings tab.

>>51890854
Kuro's picture is really erotic.

>>51890887
Oh God this is so much better.

>>51890887
>>51890905
while you're in there turn off broadcasting/recieving video and voice

>>51890883
No, wait, no, it's a level 2 wound. He's still prone, though.

>>51890962
No, wait, no (again), no actual wound, going prone as a maneuver negated the wound.

Challonge is being troublesome, so the newcomers will be added at the end of today.

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>>51890914
You can also just set your receiving to 'none'.

>>51890883
So in other words, everyone should take Ironwall.

>tfw you want to shill to your local uni's RPG society, but don't know enough about the game to do so

>>51890997
After several false starts and a horrible, horrible pun, the first actual wound of the fight has been inflicted: a level 2 wound to Ikesander's hip! Will he stay down?

>>51890893
It's my catgirl. She's essentially a robin hood that fights with her limbs. Out of every fight my group's been in, only one person was actually killed by her. Everyone else was knocked out.

Here is the current roster, including late entries.

http://paste2.org/L4E1A8ns

>>51891116
>>51890903
wrong post

>>51891116
Is this in SoS, or...?

>>51891090
And Gunther cripples Ikesander's left arm with a level 5 wound to the hand. It's all over but the screaming and the tossing off the platform to the cruel waves below.

>>51891144
Yeah. SoS. DM is running an early Edo game with kitsunes and the like.

>>51890339
The third battle is over!
>#2 Azariah Ikesandar vs #6 Gunther Alder
Victor: Gunther!
Method of Victory: A level 5 piercing forearm wound from the back spike of a pollaxe.

>>51890825
we've found the Haki

>>51891075

just lie

>>51891161
The Lesson to be learned is always throw both spears

>>51891196
And in the fourth battle, both combatants have literally identical weapons.

>>51891228
That isn't actually me, and it worries me that someone may have access to my account.

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>>51891315

>>51891315
And Zeyaad Sulakir, Kedouan Raider Captain, has been knocked prone by a Superior Hook from Kal Desar, Karthacki Footman. No actual injury yet, but if the previous matches teach us anything he's as good as dead already.

>>51891473
And Zeyaad Sulakir takes a level 4 wound to the face.
At this rate, the tournament motto might as well be "I've fallen and I can't get up!"

>>51891473
When you get knocked down, you don't get up again

>>51891627
After a bit of impromptu roleplaying, the sharks feast on Kedouin flesh. They have eaten well today.

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The fought fight already happened!
#9 Kal Desar vs #15 Zeyaad Sulakir
Victor: Kal Desar!
Method of Victory: A level four piercing wound to the face.

Yo I know this is 4chan and anonymous and all but perhaps we should include the roll20 names of the contestants somewhere? So people know who they are looking for if they come in on an off hour

>>51891760
Now it's Kasel Longsword Jobber vs. a train that clearly skipped leg day in favor of more Bicep Day. Seriously, that's the token, a train with arms attached, I think the actual name is something like Subject 19?

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The fifth fight is underway!
>#10 Kasel Longsword Jobber vs #5 Gandicze, Subject 19

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The fifth battle is over!
>#10 Kasel Longsword Jobber vs #5 Gandicze, Subject 19
Victor: Gandicze!
Method of Victory: A level 5 piercing from a poleaxe through a metal gorget into the neck.

>>51892049
And the pain train lands a Level 5 wound to the Neck. "Instant Death. Throat impaled, neck possibly broken. Exsanguination is almost instant."

Hopefully he'll land on and kill a Zell.

>>51892098
>>51892084
>less than 2 minutes
ahahah
fucking Jobber

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We're taking a break from the seriousness with some non-canon fechts.

>>51892208
RED/RED BOYS

Aren't spears a bit overpowered with all those talents? I mean, Bear piercer is an almost guaranteed kill if you have just 2 or 3 BS

>>51892245
Boar and Bear piercer don't do much different than you can get with a polearm with Hook. This tournament only shows how overpowered Strength 8 is.

>>51892245
Hook does the same thing for no talents and you can feint out of it to a stab if you need *shrug*

>>51892290
Also, that being prone is a death sentence.

>>51892290
>>51892299
I guess I'm just a sore loser then

>>51892245

spears are op in real life too

>>51892321
That's what I mean though. Spears on their own are already good enough, yet there's so many talents to make them even better. I feel like it's a bit much

>>51892329
that master talent to double range costs is insane
kebab master is basically +1 STR

>>51892309
Reading up on maneuvers, I believe in hindsight that Flee would actually be extremely useful to defend in a prone state. I never tested it out, so what does everyone else think?

Is the tourney still open?

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>>51875631
Who's this semen demon?

>>51892365

It's a tournament, not a tourney.

>>51892365
Sartur ever hungers for more blood.
So probably, yeah.

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>>51892389

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>>51892422
>old french

>>51892422

For it to be a tourney there has to be a melee. There isn't one. Just one on one fights.

>>51892450
Really? That's the definition?

>>51892450
I'm sure a melee can be arranged.

>>51892312
That's fair I'm still salty about losing as well but I had Bear Piercer and Jarring blows so I can't even be mad cause I was planning on knocking people over and stabbing them to death

>>51892347
I think Spear that Piecers the Sky is basically Esoterica tier. It's better than almost every other Mastery talent

>>51892208
And the Nazi Lobster slaughters the helpless human with a level 5 wound to the stomach. The sharks are protesting that they are stuffed and couldn't possibly eat another bite.

>>51892364
It is useful but there is still a big dice advantage to over come

>>51892483

Yes. In fact, the name's origin comes from the waves of knights turning around at the end of the field to go back for another pass.

>>51892487

I don't think it can, because i don't think all these degenerate hobos bothered to buy a horse.

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Here's a comparison picture of all the different builds that have entered the tournament

>>51892543
Well at least your chances of succeeding are much greater. Even if you end up failing, it may very well nullify or greatly reduce incoming damage. I did the math on chances of success and the odds are much better than a standard block maneuver

>>51892506
>willingly going prone
>ever

>>51892552
I'd like to see these living Burdinadin Steamtanks try to handle some horses

>>51892584
I asked for a take backsie but they flipped a coin and I lost all of the rule coin flips

>>51892600
Horses are genuinely powerful.
Especially a charging destrier.

>>51892552
>>51892483
Everything I find says that in US English tourney and tournament are the same, while in UK English a tourney is a knightly tournament.

Since it qualifies as a tournament under the "A series of games; either the same game played many times, or a succession of games related by a single theme; played competitively to determine a single winning team or individual." definition, it's a tourney in the US but not in the UK.

>>51892364
>>51892561
Sort of. Being Prone halves your MOB, so it greatly reduces your dice available to Flee with.

>>51892680
I'm comparing it versus doing other maneuvers while Prone, which does become a significant boost

>>51892695
The good news is that if you win, you can stand up.

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Rolled 46, 13, 8, 61 = 128 (4d100)

There are two fights left to do in Round 1 of the original roster! Here are the current standings.

Now we will determine the order of the newcomers, in exactly the same way as before. These newcomers will fight starting in Round 2, and the ultimate winner will go on to fight the finalists. I have a few ideas for how to handle this. The newcomers are:

#16 Sjornn Anfallare, Sea Raider
http://paste2.org/MFjhMMhz

#17 Ozziah the Oathless, Ohanedin
http://paste2.org/kHU6dWt1

#18 Giot Vaneleaux du Galli
https://i.4cdn.org/tg/1487977450152.pdf

#19 Zabaz - Izagoni “Duelling-Priest”
http://paste2.org/ODvn7HEO

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>>51892775
>8,13
#18 Giot Vaneleaux du Galli vs #17 Ozziah the Oathless, Ohanedin

>46,61
#16 Sjornn Anfallare, Sea Raider vs #19 Zabaz - Izagoni “Duelling-Priest”

>>51892802
We live we die we live again

Meanwhile, the Pain Train and Kasel Longsword Jobber are fighting. They're up to KLJ IV now.

>>51893333
Now V.

>>51890903

So is Brian's.

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We have some of the best Rhade's here in roll20

many one such cases

>>51893495
Notable quote from the roll20:
[Brian]: So what will you do in response?
[Rhade]: 3d die.
I mean slip.

>>51893358
Will Kasel Longsword Jobber VI succeed where his father, grandfather, great-grandfather, great-great-grandfather, and great-great-great-grandfather all failed before him?

What kind of premises/ideas do you think would work best for a quest run on a traditional forum? Updates would be daily at most.

I don't know if that means I'd have to run combat without player action or not. It'd be for people who aren't familiar with Song of Swords.

>>51893754
>I don't know if that means I'd have to run combat without player action or not.
Then Song of Swords is probably not the appropriate system.

>>51893754
Solo adventure, being on a mission, meeting lots of people you don't know & aren't sure you can trust, needing to trust people to do certain things at a certain time, being lost innawoods and being wary of ambushes

>>51893739
The answer is "no."

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>Song of Swords is a a tabletop RPG centered around realistic medieval fightan' with a ludicrous variety of weapons and fighting styles, centered around a dice pool system.

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After another good day for donations, we're now about on track for $26000 according to the logarithm. If marketing continues apace, the SoS kickstarter could reasonably exceed $30000. I imagine Jimmy and the boys will be quite happy to receive a year's wages in a month.

>>51894154
>cropping out the pile of dead jobbers

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Rhade. I'll not be free of work for another 4-5 hours. Please give me the ending Genosus decrees for me.

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Why is Closing Void the only void that doesn't cost extra dice for Encumbrance?

>>51891249
>just lie
>when trying to get money out of people
I'd rather not ruin Opaque's reputation.

Any ideas what I should cover in a shill-post?

>>51894999
Just say things that are mostly true.

>>51894999
System (combat) and setting.

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The first fight of the second round has begun and concluded! The fighters were rearing to have a go at one another. They were so eager to get at each other's throats that they didn't wait for me to announce the fight!

>#1 Akakios Drekelos vs #5 Gandicze, Subject 19

Akakios is a Purple Guardsmen. I have a particular affinity for characters of this background: my first game of Song of Swords was a Purple Guard game. These audacious, proud, even flamboyant warriors compete with each other to be the greatest specimens of mankind. The top Guardsmen join the Orredin in the floating city of Helion to breed the next generation of the sorcerer-elves. They're encouraged to feud with one another, and develop ever more standout forms of combat. (Think of them as a professional wrestling roster vying for the championship.) In this parliament of peacocks, Akakios stands tall. Face like a cut gemstone, voice like an avalanche, and vicious as a lion, the Grecian hoplite encountered the wretched Rosalie Azevedo in Round 1. Such was his honor that he stripped nude to make it a fair fight! But the craven knave was no match for the hoplite's might.

Akakios would beware, for might alone is of little use against Gandicze, or "19" as the Burdinadin has been nicknamed. Armored from head to toe in gapless power armor, this combatant is more akin to a steaming train than a humanoid. Wielding a mighty pollaxe, 19 exited the station full steam ahead, powering through the Kasel Longsword Jobber in less than two minutes! Plate armor crumpled like tinfoil before the supersoldier's strength. 19 feels the same awe while chopping wood that a man may feel while staring at a fire. The elf reveled in this obsession during the fight with Akakios, making splinters of the warrior's spear and nearly obliterating his stout round shield. Unarmed, prone, and with injured pride, Akakios yielded. Granting his final request, 19 allowed the hoplite to honorably fall off the Panoptica into the Inner Sea below.

>>51895412
What's the difference between a pollaxe and a poleaxe?

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>>51895469
A poleaxe is a medieval polearm used to kill people.

A pollaxe is what George Takei does when his poll doesn't go the way he wants it to

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>>51895469
I dunno about you, but when I was a kid learning my weapons and armor through playing Diablo, D&D, and Mount & Blade, a poleaxe was a long pole with an axe at the end, and that was it. No spike, nothing on the back end, no fancy queue spike. Just a big axe. Like a halberd without the spike, or a bardiche with a longer pole. Then I learn about HEMA and how there are about 500 different names for this particular weapon. Battle axe, knightly axe, just "axe" (like a rapier was sometimes just "sword"), poleaxe, pollaxe, pollax, polaxe, and possibly also a bec de corbin or lucerne hammer depending on certain qualities. I prefer pollaxe because that to me is distinguished from the poleaxe in my fantasy games in childhood.

>>51895510
And this is a /pol/axe

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>Song of Swords might actually make it to 200 percent funding

>>51895469
One is how it should be spelled, and the other is only used by morons. Which one is which is up to you.

>>51896074
Pole-axe

Theodore here, doesn't look like I'll have the time for the tournament like I though I would. If someone could play out my matches for the that'd be great, otherwise just drop me.

>>51895469
Neither of them are Sidney Pollack's.

>>51897459
That's not a difference.

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New player here.
I'm not sure if I'm retarded, but what exactly does Beautiful [2] under Slave Social Class boons represent? Beautiful is only valid in [3] or [6]. Does it just mean the second level of Beautiful?

>>51897958
I think Beautiful didn't get a level change for the rest of the rulebook. I believe 2 is 3, and 4 is 6.

>>51897971
So I can't be a carriage-crash causing beauty / hunk if I start as a slave?
Damn.

>>51897958
It's probably a typo, like Famous (3), which should be Famous (2). I think some of the Folks Back Home entries should be FBH (8), like, say the ones for (High) Royalty.

>>51897984
Oh, you can. You can easily take Beautiful 6 through the boons/banes system.

>>51898004
If you get Beautiful (3) from Social Class, can you put in another 3 to buy that up to Beautiful (6)?

>>51898004
Yeah but you can't make skirts drop and belts click open in your presence >for free
Also, considering how "hard" the combat in this system seems to be, as in "lol you fucking died", is this one of those systems where you shouldn't get attached to your character and have like two or three backups ready at all times?

>>51897984
It would cause lots of trouble for your master

I've never backed a project on Kickstarter before. How does one determine what name is used as part as of the benefits?

>>51898027
I believe you get asked that question after the project closes, either through a KS message or as part of the survey for PledgeManager/BackerKit.

>>51898020
Probably not a bad idea, but it's also a system that encourages creating someone with a both of character and love.

You should be careful with your PCs and try to make them live, still stating up their vengeful brother might not be a terrible idea.

>>51898020
I keep at least one or two backups, but that's just my personal preference. It's up to the player, really.

>>51898021
Isn't it basically presumed that you're a runaway or something? Are you supposed to literally be the slave of a "fellow" party member?

>>51898056
>>51898057
Cool.

>>51898074
>Isn't it basically presumed that you're a runaway or something?
The sheer verity of possible campaign settings renders this question a little moot.

>>51898157
I mean I'm not sure how you're meant to play as Mr. Noble-with-Sword-in-Shining-Armor's cocksleeve.

>>51898266
Your post is pretty self-explanatory, you polish his cock and his armor.

>>51898286
There's only so many ways to type "I pretend to choke on his microdick so he doesn't slap me".

New thread

>>51898333
>>51898333
>>51898333