/swg/ Team Empire Galaxy Police

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>>51871612
Jan! Wh-why are y-you dressed like that?

>>51871612
That's a hot Han.

Haha.jpg

>>51871612

I want to fuck a chick dressed as Han Solo and, just before I finish all over her back, she squirts and says, "I shot first."

>>51872187
I didn't know how bad I wanted this

>>51871612
Who is this bantha beguiler?

>>51872620
Who is this nut hutt?

>>51872666

Who is this Kessel Vessel?

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Best ship coming through

>>51872685
Who is this Jedi Princess?

>>51872685
Who is this Leia persuada?

>>51872620
>>51872666
>>51872685
>>51872762
Who is this compactor commando?

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Thread filled with retarded shitposting already never change /tg/

>>51872793
Who is this wookie wrangler?

Has anyone made additional missions for hotac?

>>51872721
pssh. Venators are better.

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>>51873013
Resurgence are better than both

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>>51872945
>retarded
wow rude

side note: what the fuck is wrong with 4chan's captcha

>>51871612
Who is this bacta blender?

>>51873039
L A Z Y

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DESIGN

>>51873300
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>>51871612
>no trigger discipline

How hard would it be to retool Age of Rebellion to work in the Clone Wars era? I've got an adventure planned out that involves piecing together/playing the story of a squad of clone commandos that died at the end of the war and it would involve a lot of weapons, vehicles and droids I don't think I've seen statted.

>>51873914
>and it would involve a lot of weapons, vehicles and droids I don't think I've seen statted.
Well, what do you need?

>>51873354

Gotta shoot first son

>>51873914

Weapons are easy, carbines are carbines, rifles are rifles, pistols are pistols. Making some unique ones might be an issue, but hell, just take some Civil War era guns and reduce their mark numbers by a few increments.

As for generic droids, you could easily just refluff some combat droids, and stormtroopers become clones.

Vehicles again you could pretty easily just pick like-for-like for a lot of them

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SWG i saw a sneaky game post last thread, and there was a reply to it that talked about the players being deep cover agents watching out for the Discovery of Echo base.

I liked that idea, amd i want to incorporate it into my game/group, but i have a problem:

How exactly does one get into the imperial navy fast enough to be usefull without walking up to a recruiter? The players are wanted and the beuaracracy of the Empire means that at some point a background check would have to be performed, so how could the go about forging IDs? Or how would you have them disguise themselves as someone else (han and luke style) and how would they be able to keep pretending to be that person?

Any opinions appreciated.

>>51874337
Identity theft or fraud wouldn't be too hard.

The party are the graduating class from the best university on Besaris way out in the outer rim. Sure the university isn't all that prestigious but they pride themselves on training good spacers!

The university's systems are also much easier to slice new details into.
Tadah they're now on the latest graduating academy hopefuls list, shipping straight to Imperial Naval Academy. I hope their deception checks are up to par

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Did any of you fa/tg/uys read Empires End yet? How did you feel about Sheev's keikaku?

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>>51874628
>Reading anything by Wendig
I haven't. I don't think I ever plan on touching anything else he's written. Can you provide a quick rundown?

>>51873914
Not hard. B1 battle droids are stated out in Edge. The Chronicals of the Gatekeeper has commando droids and droidekas. One of the soldier splat books has the stats for LAAT gunships. A lot of this stuff is already fleshed out, you just need to check through one of the online compendiums.

>>51874628

I think the Sheev plan fitted into who he was, and it's a good explanation of the post Endor folding up. I liked it. We really should have gotten the info in the first book though. It's not that fancy a reveal.

This one was underwhelming but I appreciate the lore added, Norra and Temmin are still grating characters, Sinjir still isn't as awesome as Chuck reckons he is. The Senate shenanigans seemed unnecessary and tacked on. Zhe isn't well executed but is an interesting concept.

Jakku was a meh fight, Unifying Force did a big battle better.

>>51871612
0_0 Looks kind of like my asian wife, actually.

Gotta check her schedule to see what she was doing last weekend...

>>51875414
>Asian wife

Does she have a nice ass?

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>>51875414
>0_0

>>51873354
>not doing your part to keep the alien bird population in check firing constantly into the air

>>51875414

For right now her schedule says send nudes

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>>51874706
There is a grey side of the force
Sheev's flagship the eclipse is canon
Sheev is a sore loser
Snoke has been calling to Sheev from the unknown regions
Sheev wanted Jakku to be the final battle
He wanted the empire to destroy itself and the Republic

>>51875414
Looks kind of like my Asian ex-coworker

Are the core beta pregens working? I just get blank PDFs.

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>>51875847
>There is a grey side of the force
Oh for fuck's sake

>>51875878
That one, at least, isn't true. Pretty much all of the others are, though.

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>>51875847
Good thing I just bought vodka

>>51875889
>Snoke calling to Palps
I'm going to be upset if this means that Palps isn't the big dark cheese. Galactic emperors shouldn't be playing second fiddle to anyone.

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>>51875847

>>51875878
>>51875889
He tries not to think about how this is the place where he is going to die—or, in Brin’s words, where he will join soon with the living Force, all hail the light, the dark, and the gray.

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>>51875889
You were saying

>>51875914
We've known since the first Aftermath book (if not earlier, I don't remember) that Palpatine has been searching for the source of the dark side, somewhere beyond the edge of the galaxy.

Whether that was actually Snoke or if it was something else and Snoke showed up to take control of things is yet to be known.

But given that he was supposedly messing with Ben Solo/Kylo Ren while he was still in Leia's womb, it's entirely possible.

Doesn't mean that Palpatine wasn't the big bad, it just means that there are other dark siders out there with similar levels of power.

>>51875934
Does not mean that there actually is a gray side. Just means that some people think that there is.

>>51875948
Does not state that there is a gray side, only that they use both sides without leaning either way.

>>51875847
Sheev said the galaxy is like chess with him as its king. He says that if the king falls the game is over despite how many pieces are left. He believed that if he died than the empire failed him and doesn't derserve to live. His failsafe was Jakku a planet that had an observation post designed to spy on unknown regions where Snoke is. Anyway the final battle between the rebels and empire was to be fought on Jakku than the planet was to be blown up wiping out both sides. The strongest members of the empire were to flee to the unknown regions to form the First Order.

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>>51874706
-Sheev clones bow to Mofference
-In contact with Yuuzhan-Vong
-Possess Force-like abilities
-Control the Empire with an iron but fair Glove of Darth Vader
-Own Moffships & planets globally
-Direct descendants of the ancient Sith blood line
-Will bankroll the first cities on Mortis (Moffopolis will be be the first city)
-Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Kamino
-First designer babies will in all likelihood be Trioculus babies
-All Moffs said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Coruscant has only existed deep in Jedi Temples & Lusankya
-Ancient Rakata scriptures tell of two Starforges who will descend upon the Galaxy and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
-They own Sienar R&D labs around the galaxy
-You likely have TIE Fighters inside you right now
-The Mofference is in regular communication with the Prophets Kadann and Jedgar, forwarding the word of Dark Greetings to the Nightsisters of Dathomir. Who do you think set up the meeting between the Prophets of the Dark Side & the Sorcerers of Tund (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Tund leader’s first trip to the Centrality in history literally a few days later to the Star Cave of ThonBoka?
-They learned fluent Shyriiwook in under a week
-Planetary governments entrust their credit reserves with the Mofference. There’s no holocrons in Ossus, only Ft. Moffort
-The Moffs are about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
-In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the Expanded Universe. We don’t know their ultimate plans yet. We hope they’re benevolent beings.

>>51876015
Who came up with the name "First Order," anyway? Not only is it bland as fuck, it's nonsensical. What about them is "First?" Their tech is derivative, their doctrine is derivative, their iconography is derivative, their main Force-sensitive enforcer is trying to emulate a predecessor, and countless people have used the Dark Side before them. Said Force-sensitive enforcer also uses a lightsaber that is based on previously existing designs, so he hasn't innovated there, either.

>>51876096
I assume it's supposed to mean, that they are the First among many, or rather The Best of The Best.

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>>51876079
>Tribogulus posting
What a time to be alive.

>>51876096
>>51876121
It was Palpatine's first order for the strongest of the Imperial military to leave via Jakku and form a new empire in the Unknown Regions. As in, of his many contingency orders upon his death, that was his first.

This new empire is therefore the embodiment of his first order. It is, as such, called The First Order.

>>51876166
Oh so I was half right?

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>>51876166
Eh, still sounds like a pretty bland explanation for a pretty bland name. Nucanon's writers could have done a better job in the cool name department. "Resistance" and "First Order" aren't exactly catchy.

>>51876015
Also forgot there are new independent powers in the galaxy for example
The New Separatist Union
Confederacy of Corporate Systems
Sovereign Latitudes (they are a bunch of shitty pirates led by a trans)

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>>51876230
I'd forgive Disney everything if we get an independant Corellia lead by the man himself.

MAKE CORELLIA GREAT AGAIN!

>>51876230
I know the Corporate Sector is Canon but

Are there Hapans?
Centrality?
Tion Hegemony?

>>51876326
Nope

>>51876326

Tion is, others haven't been mentioned yet

>>51876346
FUCK

>>51876326
For what it's worth, although those factions haven't been explicitly mentioned (Tion has, but that's it) Pablo recently stated that the galaxy map is essentially unchanged from its Legends incarnation to its canon one - obviously the canon map includes the new canon planets, but it also doesn't include Zenoma Sekot, the Vong world.

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>>51876230
>The New Separatist Union
>Confederacy of Corporate Systems
That's just being lazy.

>>51876246
I'd love to see Garm take over Corellia and lead a coalition of planets, privateers, volunteers, and Legends holdovers to bitch-slap the First Order and take the fight to them.
>Booster Terrik,Talon Karrde, and Lando gathering the Smuggler's Alliance under the Corellian banner
>Hobbie, Wes, and Tycho bringing volunteers from Ralltiir, Taanab, and the Alderaanian diaspora
>T-65s flying with Rogue insignia and an Antilles at the helm
>Pellaeon bringing Chimaera, Baron Fel, and the 181st to show those FO poseurs how it's really done

>>51875517
>Does she have a nice ass?
No. Typical flat ass. Well, it looks pretty good when she's bent over.

"The battle droid moves in herky-jerky fits and starts—Bones is broken, Norra can see that much."
-Chapter 14, Aftermath: Empire's End.

A gift for the autistic amongst us.

>>51876417

We all like Garm, so keep him out of your thirsty polack fantasy

>>51876448
I don't see how bringing back old Legends fan favorites to fight evil space Nazis has anything to do with /pol/ fantasies.

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Any species you guys want to see in FFG? I desperately hope to see Kyuzo from The Clone Wars. Bonus points if they include his cool helmet shield as a weapon.

>>51876469

I kept the backslashes out, was comparing the idea to the work of that deviantart eu mango.

>>51876540
I love how that guy just keeps showing up in the background every time a scene calls for bounty hunters

>>51876540

They're in the Soldier book

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>>51873039
>>51872721

Meh, I always preferred the lucrehulk's myself, its a giant space donut that can spam fighters like no tomorrow.

>>51876616
What the fuck really? The soldier book is out?

>>51876745
Dude, get it together. It's been out for a while, the Kyuzo got their Captain America shields and their energy bows in as well.

>>51876745

Pdf is on 7chan if it isn't here

>>51876853
As if anyone with a sane mind would go to that shit site

>>51876540
They're in forged in battle

+1 Agi -1 Pre and get an ability that pretty much is spend three strain to force leap

>>51877202
3 strain is way too much of a cost imo. So is how much advantage it takes to use the helmets boomerang effect.

>>51877394
Three advantage to make it come back to you.

>>51877458
Too much especially when shit like autofire only costs 2

>>51877501
I just report the info man. The bow's much better.

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I will post this ship every thread until you chucklefucks love it.

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So a match today ended in a draw with the following lists:
Me:
>Ahsoka Tano (18)
>Sabine Wren (TIE version) (14 + 1)
*EPT - Veteran Instincts (1)
>Captain Rex (14)
>Zeb Orrelios (13)
>2x Prototype Pilot (17 + 3)
*Proton Rockets (3)

Opponent was running Tycho w/ Rage and PTL, as well as Proton Rockets; Jake Farrell with Proton Rockets (don't remember talents or mod), and Sabine Wren (shuttle version) with Chewie Crew, PTL, and Autoblaster turret

Any suggestions on my list? I figure it had potential as a swarmy list. I learned these TIEs are particularly fragile though (possibly even more so than the Empire TIEs)

>>51878220
Ayy that's pretty good

>>51878220
Hey, I like it. It feels like the kind of ship WEG would give the players for a 2-3 part adventure, or that a friendly minor character would give a main character a ride in in a Del Ray book, and I say that in the best way.
It feels like a Star Wars ship, an adventure ship, and that's what it should feel like

I can't wait for the C-ROC. Anybody got any cool build ideas?

I'm thinking a Party C-ROC myself.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v4!e!244:225,174,223,-1,-1,-1,-1:49:-1:U.178,U.92&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

>>51878220
I don't NOT love it. It's just not my favorite.

>>51876540
Check out forged in battle. Both their helmet and energy crossbow are in it

>>51878913
Embo's weapon is just a wookie bowcaster. The energy bow is more like a ballistae that is mounted on a speeder or large riding beast.

>>51876429
As all Asian wives should be, at any time possible. Best position.

>>51876429
>Well, it looks pretty good when she's bent over.
Hell, I don't think there's one ass in a hundred don't look good that way

Is it mentioned anywhere why the Empire ran to a shithole like Jakku after losing Endor?

>>51879321
You are so, so wrong.

>>51879361
The Emperor ordered, Picard made it so.

>>51879361
Because Jakku was where the "observatory" was, housing Sheev's ancient mechanism to plot a path into the Unknown Regions.

Jakku is described as having not always been a shithole, instead having been lush with life a long, long time ago. But the planet is dying. And there was supposed to have been some weird dark Force ritual where the "spark" of the planet was extinguished by Rax throwing one of Sheev's sycophants down a well into the core. But Rae Sloane killed Rax and sealed the well, or something.

That was supposed to have destroyed Jakku and with it, both the old Imperial Fleet and the fledgling New Republic. But she saved the galaxy from that fate.

Meanwhile, the strongest parts of the Imperial military were supposed to retreat from Jakku, through the path opened by that observatory mechanism, and begin a new Empire. That part still happened, despite the rest of the plan not quite going off.

So yeah, it's mentioned.

>>51879380
He probably isn't an American

>>51879456
I see. Thanks for the answer.

>>51876442
Dude loves his herky-jerky, that's for sure...

Are Imperial Intelligence's uniforms red, or was that just a thing the Isaard's did because they could get away with it? In Edge of the Empire the pic of the II agent was wearing a red uniform, and all the people in the movies who are intelligence operatives whom we see wearing the cream-colored intelligence uniform are ISB, not II.

I'm thinking of running a game around some cloak-and-dagger shit involving ISB, II, CorSec and SpecOps, so it's a detail I'd like to clarify.

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>>51871612
So what would someone need stats and talents wise to do this in F&D?

>>51879819
Seeker -> Hermit -> Animal Bond

>>51879874

Also a Force Rating of 6 if I remember the Rancor silhouette size right. Good luck with that.

>>51879802
As far as I know, that's just the Isards.

About Intelligence uniforms, something you might not have noticed: unlike with grand admirals, the pants are black.

Also, some II and ISB wear all black. Not sure if that's a mistake or by design.

>>51878300
>I learned these TIEs are particularly fragile though (possibly even more so than the Empire TIEs)

Someone lied to you my rebel friend, TIEs are very frail ships, they get by on numbers and synergy.

The Rebel TIEs are more about taking a relatively cheap support ship that will reliably survive via the title. Their pilots aren't as built for synergy or redundancy as Imperials, don't spam them like Imperials.

FFG explicitly stated that it's not a good idea to take more than one of these things when it was spoiled because that's more Imperial flavor.

>>51877501
>Weapon with Defensive 1, Deflect 2, which can be used as a melee AND ranged weapon, and can boomerang
>Waaa it's not as good as a heavy repeating blaster
You're a baby. A munchkin baby.

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>>51876079
>-You likely have TIE Fighters inside you right now

There's another one for the crazy wall

Is it just me or are bombs in X-Wing a bit... shit?

>>51881983
It's you. Sabine bomb lists are top tier and borderline broken.

Posted this last thread but didn't get any replies:

So for a legends post endor game where the players are an elite group of operatives who are doing there best to put out fires and keep the empire functioning (the group is an Emperors Hand, if that makes sense, went for a mass effect group feel), and the new Republic has had it's legends miracle success dampened to the point the imperial and republic forces are evenly and phyrically matched, what does tg think of introduced the following galactic threat.

I like the high concept of the vong with the biotechnology alienness to the Star Wars universe, but they were bad. What if I took the headcanon that the Emperor was prepping for something, and that it was the reawakening of an ancient sith alchemical power. I'm thinking ancient crystaline and biological creature spaceships and zombie type viruses, all loosely controlled by a fragmented mind of the sith who first created them. Used to fight off the Rakata in ages past before being defeated but some survived and went into hibernation.
Inspired by the vong, mass effect reapers, and homeworld cataclysm beast. Thoughts? Would you hate/like this? Things to improve/change?

Why is most of NuCanon stuff so fucking bland?

I don't know how to describe it, but it just feels sterile and lifeless, for the most part.

>>51882391
>Palps
>Prepping for a Sith-created threat
Not a fan of this idea. It makes more sense for Palps to take control of it and adapt the tech. Palps prepping against a threat in general undermines the fundamental nature of the character. He does things because he wants to enjoy his power.

>>51882478
Because Disney

>>51882483
He was proactive against Maul, and he was a threat, the only reason he didn't prepare for the threat was he outclassed it by miles.
>>51882478
Disney, like the anon above me said but it's because they're not taking risks yet, we need to give it some time, they've only been producing content for a couple years with a major focus on the new movies, so patience padawan.

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>>51882391
The Expanse has something similar with sort of a cold-war happening between Mars and Earth, outside fringe groups in the asteroid belts and then someone throws an alien organism in there which subsumes things like a big, weird arse hive mind.

Might be worth looking at for ideas, the idea that it was a sith/darkside construction isn't too bad- but for the most part you want that kind of archaeology buried deep with some successive, very hard rolls to find out what the fuck it is. Until then its a 'bitey problem' that will do whatever it does and is next to impossible to eradicate as hitting it with energy tends to make it rather happy. I'd probably counter that kind of ability with the fact that its not exactly quick or smart and running on a primal kind of instinct... at least until its absorbed a fair few people.

>>51882478

The mouse is as careful as he is cruel.

>>51882391
Sounds just as horrible as the Vong to me, no offense.

So I had an idea to add to my EotE game and run it by /tg/ first: I won't lie, it was largely inspired by having played way too much space engineers and starbound the idea was that scattered across the known galaxy, are individuals, not necessarily strong in the force, but still exceptionally talented individuals in construction and robotics who have gone out into the uncharted regions of the galaxy to utilize those skills largely for their wn amusement, inadvertently building tiny empires of droids to collect resources from uninhabited worlds and asteroids to supply their many projects and automated ships to move those resources to wherever their projects are being carried-out, there may well be a dozen or more of these "Silent Empires" scattered across the known galaxy, going largely unnoticed.

that's probably the best I can articulate the general concept as of right now.

>>51874428
Wait a sec didnt >>51874337 say he needed them deployed post haste? Going through academy wouldny be very fast. What if you choose a small ish backwater ourpost and plant the players as 'survivors' of a rebel attack? Have some rather 'obvious' data corruption in the base computers and several dead imps, in fact have ALL dead imps so that there is noone who could recognize the players. Have them say a rebel strileforce struck without warning and they hid rather than fight (locker, under the bed, or maint tunnels, ect.) and later managed to reactivate the base's auto alert systems to send for help.

I figure if someone goes through that they get pulled back to the fleet for a debriefing as well as reassignment. Plus, how often does the empire really fight the rebels? How many officers or just imp navy personell can claim a combat tour? It could make them some sort of propaganda piece as the 'only survivors of outpost -------' so they could ask to be reassigned to a permanent fleet posting somewhere important.

The attack and raid allows for the change to the personell files as well as a good positioning and covera any data gaps since the players have the 'oh my data on that must have been lost in that raid i survived' excuse.

>>51883001
That's a cat that I'd REALLY not want to let out of the bag in Star Wars, like relativistic rock masturbation shit, so I'm against it
Your idea is an interesting one, but I can't say that I'd recommend doing it unless you've got really good players who won't attempt to exploit this in any way

>>51882483
It's headcanon I've heard before and I like the idea. Also explains why empire stayed a military state instead of becoming a more effective police state. Also has the possibility of tying in with nucanon source of darkside in unknown regions stuff
>>51882542
Didn't think of the expanse when writing that up but yeah that fits rather well. And yeah primal Intellect until there's a critical mass for the original creators personality to awaken. They definitely won't find the origin with a simple check as its well pre republic, there's nowhere to go to even research that. They may find out eventually but it's more for guiding me when gming.
>>51882875
None taken, I'm just trying to create an alien to star wars threat big enough to force some imperial republic working together and soul searching. Do you have ideas to improve or just dislike the entire concept?

>>51878943
I have forged in battle, havent really read about the weapons

>>51882391
At what point is it Empire vs. Republic? Do you mean the Imperial Remnant?

Also, giving Palpatine a motivation of "save the galaxy" rather than "infinite powah" kinda fucks with his character.

>>51884000
>Do you have ideas to improve or just dislike the entire concept?
BUT WHAT IF A THIRD TURBOPOWER OUT OF NOWHERE THAT FORCES THE FORMER ENEMIES TO WORK TOGETHER?
is one of the cheapest and most overused ""plot twists"", and generally terrible and wank

>>51884582
Which is why SWTOR used it.

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>>51884000
An idea I played about with a little bit but have never thought of using was this:

Sheev noticed the possibility of a potential threat to his power if he ever got it, and sought to wipe it out completely by implicating it in his absurdly convoluted master plan: the Kaminoans and Bacta Automata. Part of the driving force behind his engineering of the clone wars was to comfortably wipe out in one swoop the Jedi and the two power bases with the reasonable capability to create a galaxy-fighting large army in secret.
For the most part, Palpatine's usage of the clones was intelligently designed to turn them against the Jedi, but he could never quite shake the concern that the Kaminoans could do it to him. If these clones were the main fighting force of his new Galactic Empire, who is to say that Order 67 isn't "The Kaminoans are now the Senate!"
He's paranoid to a fault sometimes, and this was part of the motivation behind the Kaminoan genocide and the establishment of the Stormtrooper corps.
Only, the isolationist Kaminoans spreading out across the galaxy was a diaspora he hadn't completely accounted for. After Sheev's fall, a villain rises out of the chaos - not just with an instrument of brute power, like a clone army, but an expert cloner, already eccentric and ambitious by his own species standards during the clone wars, but now addled by time. He seeks to puppet both governments from the shadows, kidnapping, replicating and replacing key figures in the Republic and the Imperial Remnant. His goal? Unification of the galaxy under a single government - but a government of his toys, enacting the vision he deems desirable.

>>51884433
Yeah imperial remnant vs new Republic, but a larger more cohesive remnant that in legends due to player influence.
Palpatines motivation was still very much infinite powah, it just that once he was Emperor and able to direct more resources at his esoterical sith studies he became aware of a potential and growing threat. I'm trying to ensure players get the idea that if he had still been around and in complete control of everything it wouldn't have been a problem.
>>51884582
Well both my group and I want to keep playing, but unless something new happens the game is just gonna be the empire and republic wearing each other down to the point they both collapse and that's the end of galactic superpowers. Could certainly be cool but as the players have spend the game up to this point holding the remnant together it would be a let down end to just see all of their work gradually go down the toilet.

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If I make a Besalisk force sensitive can I duel wield saberstaffs like Pong Krell?

>>51885653
I don't see why not. Rule of cool and all that. will you be a conniving bastard like Krell?

>>51885194
Sempai (dude who posted about Atha Prime) here - this is pretty much what I'm running in my campaign. Except he's not Kaminoan - instead he's an Arkanian geneticist and heir to the Spaarti family.

He worked with Palpatine before the Clone Wars as a consultant on the genetic modifications made to the clones. The two were particularly close, and revealed to each other that they were independently searching for immortality - cloner/geneticist through science, Sheev through the Force. They joined forces, searching for a breakthrough together that would allow them to transfer their consciousness into newly cloned bodies.

Sound kinda familiar?

Palpatine reported that he had found the secret... but no longer needed his loyal cloner, Spaarti. So he orchestrated the man's downfall and had him imprisoned for the remainder of his rule as Emperor.

Now, with the Emperor's death, this cloner is pulling strings around the galaxy to do three things:

1. Escape from his prison.

2. Make sure the Emperor's plans for cloning and resurrection never happen.

3. Seize that power for himself.

He intends to create a perfect line of clone soldiers based on his own genetic template, called ATHA: the Artificially Tailored Heterogenetic Arkanian. With the power to transfer his consciousness into a new body (assuming he can find the help of a useful Force sensitive... one of the reasons he needs the PCs), he will become ATHA Prime, and control his army of Clone Warriors as they attack the remnants of the Empire from without... while clones of important figures insidiously work from the shadows within.

I... really hope that my players don't read this.

>>51885653
>If I make a Besalisk force sensitive can I duel wield saberstaffs like Pong Krell?
I don't see any reason why not, unless you've got a morbid fear of being called a wanker

>>51885709
Yeah my party are all imps. I will be secretly a rebel operative and I will try to sabotage them at every turn
>>51885712
No I dont care about that just wondering whether its mechanically possible

>>51885576
Either the Remnant collapses or the Republic, or both.

Either way there's LOADS of storytelling you c an get out of that rather than just continually adding new byllshit.

Perhaps the players become warlords, aiming to restore a resurgent empire down the line, maybe they strike out into the unknown regions and become the First Order of their own design.

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>>51875981
>Does not state that there is a gray side, only that they use both sides without leaning either way.

Isn't that just gray?

>>51885576
I'd just like to point out that the guy who replied in all-caps is not me, the guy who said it was as bad as the Vong. Your idea just seemed bizarre to me, other guy's a sperg.

>>51878220
That's the one that gives boost die to mechanics checks made upon it, right? I already like it, and it's nice to see a ship that's not just another YT-____ model.

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>>51878220
It looks like a Droid Gunship and a Y-Wing had hot docking-port action and made an alright small party ship.

How do you guys mix and match the different lines? Do you allow your players to use all the splats?

>>51885821
Not good storytelling for a player to enjoy playing. Both sides are on route to collapse, and take galactic civilization with in. Player actions have resulted in a turtling, siege, and supply raiding strategy. Neither side is capable of replacing losses because the ships that would be supplying shipyards with resources are shipping food to starving core worlds, when those ships or the supplying farm worlds aren't being destroyed and bombed by the other side.

I've been giving the player mass effect commander sheperd levels of influence without being in direct command of much, and the war they've chosen to fight doesn't look like it'll end as long as there're still starships to fight it with. The galaxy is experiencing a true galactic war that the Clone Wars never were, and it's not going well for anyone.
As far as I can tell my players are still having fun, but unless a curveball gets thrown I don't see it ending in anything other than fire and ashes.

>>51878220

My first real FFG game my players grabbed the E-9 as their party ship, the "Hot Getaway". They eventually mounted it with a forward torpedo launcher and upgraded to the Quad laser turrets - and also added Nightshadow Coating and the WhisperThrust engine - she was a real quiet gal. Dodged many an imperial patrol that way.

>>51886777
>How do you guys mix and match the different lines?
anything goes as long as it's not pants on head stupid.

> Do you allow your players to use all the splats?
Yes, but my players are pretty good at listening to what I want to do as far as tone and narrative.

>>51882118
Sabine makes bombs playable and rebs have the best bomber. Imp bombers ok. Bombs are unplayable in scum.

>>51887264

Scum are getting close with the Quadjumper but the fact that they don't have anything which can mass equip EM - only Scavenger Crane - makes them way less reliable about it.

You can technically rig Emon with EM through Slave I - but that's just a double bomb. I'd like to see if somebody could make Emon++Scav Crane work though. Maybe with Andrasta for a little variety.

>>51886346
That's not a "gray side," however - the Bendu says it himself that he is the one in the middle. The "middle," by very definition, isn't a side.

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>>51887199
>nothing better interfere with my superb narratives or else!

>>51886958
Well the problem is, pal, that the situation you're describing is such that a third group of magic enemies arriving wouldn't get things moving, it would just collapse everything early.
Your players have made the collapse impossible to avert, and they ought to have to deal with that fact

>>51887764
I was just thinking along real historical lines that usually the only things to get warring enemies to unite is an even more alien to them enemy. That or the one group sides with the outsider for a quick win that bites them later.

I'm certainly open to different ideas to make the collapse interesting and not just a dull 'everything you've worked for is slowly undone' type affair. They've already said they don't want any time skips.

Kuat shipyards got destroyed as one of the first blows the new Republic struck against the empire post endor, although the players managed to arrange the escape of a barely functional ssd hull, which has become a mobile shipyard for the empire.
Coruscant is in dire straights but now solidly imperial, as they had hid behind their shields until starvation forced them to drop them, at which point the players snuck proton bombs onto the New Republic relief convoy and irradiated half the planet in the blast.
Remaining shipyards are heavily defended by whoever controls them but supplies are scarce. Privacy and smuggling are rampant. Hutts are having a field day.
Corellia of course declared independence and is probably doing better than most.

I'd say the galaxy is 30/30/40 imperials/new republic/other, with other including warlords, criminals, and systems vying for independence

Like there's lots of interesting things going on, and I'd love to run a game in the current setting with low xp edge characters, but the players and even I are quite attached to the current party, so I'm looking for a way to keep things going an interesting for us.

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>>51887515
>we're playing a scum game
>I-I-I want to play as a mandalorian gray jedi who uses force lightning for good! Or a Yuuzhan Vong!

>>51888276
>not just a dull 'everything you've worked for is slowly undone' type affair
Oh, but the collapse *is* what they've worked for.
It's not a grave, it's the future they chose

>>51888420
OK if I did run through the collapse, how do I make it fun to play? I agree it's what they deserve but it is still a game so should be fun. They can't even really go down in a blaze of glory at this point short of handwaving all republic and imperial forces into a single system.

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>>51876407
What is interesting is that it includes Rakata Prime. Makes me wonder just how much of KotOR they are going to make canon.

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>>51888722
As long as they don't make the games' art style canon, I'll be happy. Swords-and-Sith sorcery space fantasy Old Republic era is best Old Republic era.

>>51888800
What was wrong with the art style?

If Ahsoka has Recon Specialist, can she use her ability twice (two focus tokens) or only once per turn?

>>51888800
>tfw no faux-Kurosawa Anthology film about the pilosophical differences between Jedi and Sith, expressed through minimal dialogue, moody environments, and incredible fight scenes

>>51888847

It basically looked exactly like the Prequels.

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>>51888847
Everything looked like shiny, reskinned PT and OT tech despite being 3000 years before Yavin. Meanwhile, just a few decades before the games, you had shit like this.

>>51888907

What novel/comic is this? Looks fucking rad.

>tfw Star Wars will never look like this

>>51888948
>Star Wars will never look like this
It did, back in the olden days of late '90s Star Wars. It was from the Tales of the Jedi comic series, IIRC.

>>51888978

Any good?

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>>51888990
I had pretty fond memories of it, so I'd say yes. I definitely enjoyed its stories more than the KOTOR games'.

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>>51888800
Well judging by how they modeled Darth Bane, I doubt they would be going for the same style the games had.

>>51888907
And tusken still had gaffi sticks, gammoreans giant axes, and royal guards combat blades.
SW never amazed me with technological advancement.

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>>51888337
>I got BTFO better resort to strawman arguments!

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>>51889091
Darth Bane wasn't from the games Mouseketeer

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>>51889117
>royal guards combat blades
To be fair, we have no idea what else they're packing under the red robes. Besides, the royal guard are hardcore motherfuckers. They get a pass.

>>51888907
What the fuck ar3 you talking about? Nothing looked shiny and I guess you never heard of a technological plateau. The Star Wars Galaxy had FTL for at least 25000 years.

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>>51889159
Obviously, but he lived 2,000 years after the event of the games, and he looks closer to this
>>51888800 than anything in the games. Even the model they were going to use for Revan looks aesthetically different from how he appeared in KotOR.

>>51889242
He never was in any games what are you even arguing about? What does Revan's appearance have to do with Banes? They never looked the same.

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>>51889091
He looks like a shittier Darth Vader. Old Bane was GOAT.

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>>51889239
>Nothing looked shiny, muh tech plateau
>Sith troopers literally SHINY AND CHROME
>Upper Taris
>Manaan
Hell, even the Hammerhead in some shots looked like it had been covered in wax.

>Muh tech plateau
The Great Sith War looked like this, and it was only a few years apart from KOTOR 1. Before KOTOR came along, the era looked appropriately archaic and fantastical. Then suddenly, along comes BioWare's lazy art team and now everything Old Republic-related looks like a cheap rehash of PT and OT tech.

>>51889355
I don't see what part of the argument you are having trouble with. He is clearly saying that the new canon appearances for Bane (Revan is debatable because they planned on using him but cut him at the last minute) don't look PT or OT at all, which other people in the thread said the art style for the games was based on, while >>51888800 said that particular art style should not be canon. It is clear from the models for those two Sith Lords that Disney has something else in mind regarding the aesthetic of the Old Republic era than what was shown in the games.

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>>51889393
This is the model for Bane that they were going to use in the Ghosts of Mortis episode along with Revan, but both were cut. I personally like the one we got better.

>>51889393
He kind of looks like an angry clown

>>51889431
>poor's man x-wing
>rebel trooper's uniforms (oh god his hands)
>blasters

Basilisks aside, I don't see the issue. And BWDs are retarded.
Theed wasn't shiny and chrome either.

>>51889516
>It is clear from the models for those two Sith Lords that Disney has something else in mind regarding the aesthetic of the Old Republic era than what was shown in the games

I doubt it. My guess is they are just trying to keep the Old Republic untouched until they decide better how they want to approach it since every is planned top-down now. My guess? Old Republic trilogy after IX so they can burn some time before making more numbered entries

>>51889602
Well, they are slowly making elements of the OR era canon again. Kanan reminds Sabine in one of the most recent Rebels episodes that the Jedi won the war against Mandalore.

I wouldn't even be mad if we got an Old Republic movie.

>>51889516
No need to samefag

>>51889431
How does your pic look any different from KotoR? I see starfighters, blasters and knock off rebel uniforms. The only semi unique thing in the pic was the basilisk war droids

>>51888878

I don't think so. The trigger is "at the start of the combat phase", and then it says to spend 1 token to give 1 ship 1 free action - if it wanted to you do it more it would probably be worded differently.

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>>51889589
>I don't see the issue
Every Old Republic-era thing before the KOTOR games looked crude, rough, and archaic. It actually looked like you were seeing the galaxy's ancient history.

>Theed wasn't shiny and chrome
Coruscant was. The N-1 was, as were the J-type and H-type series of starships. Most of the PT-era ships were also smooth, shiny, and un-greebled.

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And here's another sample of TotJ-era tech, also clearly more primitive-looking than film-era stuff.

>>51889752
Only primitive thing I see is the idiots running out with halberds. The thing in the background looks like a generic ship.

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>>51889778
That ship clearly looks cruder and shittier than anything that would appear in the films.

>>51889711
I personally think that tales is a bit too Space Wizards! and weird with giant bug ships and shit for my taste but to each his own

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>>51889802
Tale of Jedi while good story the fact everything looks medieval is shit. They have fucking faster than light travel why do they look like knights and shit? Also jedi were based off of Samurai not western knights anyway. This is Star Wars not dungeons and dragons.

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>>51889849
>why do they look like knights and shit
There was a little bit of both knights and samurai in there. The lamellar armor worn by dragon dildo gunman also looks more Asian-flavored than Western.

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>>51889834
>implying full-on Space Wizards! SW isn't the purest and best SW

Despite all of SWTOR's shortcomings, I always thought their Sith armor designs were on fucking point. Stupidly ornate robes and masks you'd expect a bunch of evil space sorcerers to vainly flaunt.

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>>51889968
TotJ Sith were even more garish, and I fucking loved them for it.

>>51889968
And giant pauldrons and dumb power armour everywhere!

TOR visual design is garbage with a few quality designs tucked deep in the shit.

Do you guys think Saw and Lando hang out on weekends?

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>>51888907
Blame whoever said the Galaxy had Hyperdrive for 25K years. You should be mad that the pt and ot aren't advanced enough. They should have had transporters, replicators and etc. Also they shouldn't look like swords and sorcery in ToJ. If anything they should look more like us now. And instead of blasters their ships and guns should fire bullets and shit

>>51890427
>Blame whoever said the Galaxy had Hyperdrive for 25K years
IIRC, that piece of lore was written long after TotJ was published.

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>Onderon Civil War heavily based on Soviet War in Afghanistan (particularly last episode of arc)
>Obi-Wan and Yoda warn against training terrorists
>Saw becomes an extremist, ostracized by Rebellion
>Holes up on Star Wars equivalent of a "holy land" (and a rocky/desert one no less)
>the beard, particularly the touches of gray

Let's face it, Saw Gerrera is space Osama bin Laden.

>>51891089
>Saw Gerrera is space Osama bin Laden.
I can't see this going over too well with marketing and PR.

>>51891089
He's black though

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>>51871612

Any suggestions for running a Space Station 13-flavored Star Wars game?

>>51891984
The Jedi cannot honk if you disable his hand.

>>51875414
Oh not much, just existing in 2d.

>>51874628
I'd rather take a force-pike up the ass than read something written by Wendig.

>>51891984
An Imperial Outpost mid GCW. The NT crew are now the worst screwups from the Navy and Army, while the Syndicate are Rebels. Traitors are obviously Rebel plants, Wizards are Jedi/Force Sensitives, and NukeOps just involves strapping a bomb to the station's power core.

Alright /swg/ our group just rolled 9 Dark Side points and 0 Light Side. How badly are we fucked?

>>51893410
Also 3 ISDs showed up, and our engines just died.

>>51893418
Say hello to torture town.

>>51893410
Hopefully you at least die well

>>51893410
At this point I'd recommend sepukku and boobytrapping the ship
They won't take you alive and you'll take some of them with you

>somebody's terrible TCW fanfic-of-a-fanfic uses the name wrath squadon for their OC elite fighter squadron
>they seem not to know of the existence of the original
I don't even know how to react to this

>>51893807
Only one way: Whiskey and Pain Train

>>51894021
Whiskey's done, full fifth of wild turkey, and I eould normally be down to pain train but apparently I'd hafta read a couple hundred thou words of other terrible fanfic to understand this one, and I ain't that dedicated to Pain Train
I might try and find something else for a go, though

>>51894185
Do it for Quest. I hope that he's smiling on us down from Valhalla. Or wherever you go when you stop posting on the internet

>>51894227
I mean more like it'll likely be underwhelmingly bad for the effort
I'll dig something up to toast to his ghost, though. (Assuming I don't pass out first)

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>>51890237
>giant pauldrons and dumb power armour

>>51894460
It makes a bit of sense on a Mandalorian, a culture centered around armour. Not so much for a force wielder.

Also that design is super dumb but still looks better than half the shit in TOR, which says a lot.

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>>51888800
>>51888907
>>51889017
Going off of that aesthetic, what do you imagine the Zhell Armor would've been during the Zhell-Taung War? We already have the Taung armor. Basically Zhell are Human ancestors fighting the Taung Mandalorian ancestors over control of Coruscant. Taung briefly won but then Zhell threw them out.

>>51890427
The whole original idea behind that is that the original force users were gray looking aliens that controlled everything in that galaxy and have the most advance technology but yet these grays enslaved every other known race and some taught their slaves the way of the force. So when these slaves, trained in the force, rebelled and destroyed everything those gray like aliens created. The galaxy went back in time to a more simple way of life with the ability to travel the stars at FTL speeds while having a basic understanding of that technology, along with the weapons that came from that gray aliens type people. I believe even in later stories, apart from the DarkHorse comics, also played into this, having some of the old republic soldiers, ancient jedi's and sith finding that technology and using it for their own use. The Star Forge, comes to mind. So basically for those thousands and thousands of years, there was no real technology to advance on as everything was already advance. It is just those freed slaves now having to understand and engineer old technology into new. Another case in point, the ancient jedi lightsabers being on cabled batteries, instead of a completely handheld device.

>>51894482
It's Star Wars, it's supposed to be stupid and over the top. I do agree that most armour in TOR is shit but it's an MMO, you cant make 400 different kinds of armour and make them all look good.
>>51894625
It's people taking Obi Wan's 1000 Generations line literally, and also writers having no sense of scale. Tales of the Jedi is still bad but it's bearable compared to the others.

>>51894636
I always enjoyed Tales of the Jedi. What got me into Star Wars as a child, reading those comics. But arguing technology could be explained easily in Star Wars. Just relearning their ancient past.

>>51894636
>It's Star Wars, it's supposed to be stupid and over the top.
Which is why every Jedi in the films wore near-identical plain brown robes right?

>>51878220
anon you wouldn't happen to have any more starship and starfighter images. Im looking to run a game and im looking to give my players a ship to call home. also im desperate need of ships in general.

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>>51894656
Bad in terms of technology scaling, rather than quality of the comics themselves.
>Just relearning their ancient past.
I just prefer settings where people advance by actually doing it themselves rather than copying what happened before them. The ancient technology things never really mattered until KotOR came up with the Rakata and then suddenly everything was now made by the Rakata & friends. Ancient aliens did appear earlier but tended to be one-off artifacts (Centerpoint) or fairly minor races that are usually isolated to a certain area (Gree)

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>>51893410
Have your gambler take two strain to flip one dark side point over to a light side point.

>>51894893
>Playing gambler

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>>51894891

Welcome to "Rebel WTF wing" where concept artists for rebel ships try to be as wacky as whoever did design plans for TIEs!

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>>51894938

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>>51894947
ESCALATION!!!

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>>51894939

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>>51894958

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>>51894990

Ah, the TIE Advancterbomb.

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>>51895000
>>51894997

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Do any of you guys have the xwing concept art fot TFA? I heard they are better than we got.

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>>51895000

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>>51895076

I approve of these Super-As. It's like the Fang and the A had a baby.

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>>51895102

Sup anons. Im looking for a ship for a character of mine. It has to be capable of lightspeed travel and be maintained easily enough by him with living quarters for maybe a total of three ppl at most. Not sure what would fit that criteria

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>>51895539
The AIAT/i fits that description and looks like an old WWII seaplane.

It's pre-Clone Wars-era military tech, probably designed to be easily maintained. It's 45% engines, 45% cargo hold, 10% everything else, so fairly cramped - there's seating for four in the cockpit, and any living quarters would have to be retrofitted.

I love it, though.

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>>51895539
YG-4210. An old pre-clone wars explorer craft with a shitload of modding potential

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>>51895575
>>51895589
So if someone now asks for a car recommendation you will tell them to get a model T? That's the vibe I am getting here.

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>>51895539

>>51895787

Well, you asked for

>Hyperspace capable
>Maintainable by one person
>Up to three occupants

The two responses you got were an AIAT/i, which is:

>Hyperspace capable
>Likely easily maintained
>Low passenger capacity

And a YG-4210, which is

>Hyperspace capable
>Easily modified/maintained

Personally, I would say a HWK-290, which is small, easily maintainable and hyperspace capable.

>>51895787
This is star wars 90% of the stuff you are seeing on the personal market is pre clone wars

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>>51897008
Well I should of made clear that the timeline is between 4 and 5 so I would appreciate having something like an f18 over a biplane.

>>51897158
The AIAT/i was good enough for Jango and Boba.

>>51897183
The first one looks shitty and the second one looks kind of shitty. I'll just go with the shadow caster.

>>51897251
>Space PBY Catalina
>Shitty
Heresy.

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>>51897257
Never liked seaplanes this is Star wars not tailspin

>>51897265
>This is Star Wars, not X
Yes, this is indeed a franchise heavily influenced by WWII dogfights and technology.

>>51894656
Or having a massive war induced Dark Age...which they did. Look up Republic Dark Age (Still Cannon like the Hundred Years Darkness). It took place in Banes time. Kinda similar destruction of tech progression like happened in BT after the 1st 2 Succession Wars

Are there any places to get either ship tokens or top down views of Old Republic ships?

Going to be running a game in the Old Republic on roll20 and need some tokens for ships.

>>51895787
To be fair tech in Star Wars lasts for a very long time. It does improve, yes, but upgrades are hardly done as often as in real life. The way I see it 30 years in real life might be like 15 or even 10 in Star Wars.

>>51897158
You could always go for a Aggressor, HWK or one of the smaller YT variants, though those will cost you a good bit more than a old but robust pre-clone wars craft will

Hey - there any good places to grab a bunch of sound effects? I'm trying to throw together a soundboard of shit like blasters and lightsabers to use in one've my games to add that little something.

Someone sell me on the K-Wing. I've thought about picking one up three times, but each time I decided it wasn't a good fight for my play style.
My favorite list for the past three months has been Rey/Norra (I'm telling you this so you have a look into my play style).

>>51898078
Sounds cringeworthy to be honest.

>>51897333
>>51897257
>>51897183
>>51897008
Huh. It's rare that I log off for the night and find that someone else has fought my battle. Thanks Anon.

>>51898825
It doesn't sound cringeworthy at all. Sound can be an incredibly useful tool.

You know what's cringeworthy? Someone on a place like /tg/ negging on other peoples' effort.

>>51899323
Fuck off tumblr this isn't your safe place.

>>51899408
I guess you're not used to /tg/ being the place that produces content

How about you fuck off back to /pol/?

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>>51899408
News flash: some people like to create on creative boards. It ain't about a safe space, it's about the fact that you're a sperg.

Fuck off with your shitty attitude. You want to go home and rethink your life.

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>>51895009
Basically all the TFA concept art was more interesting than what we got.

They played it way too safe with the art direction in the final version.

>>51899571
>They played it way too safe with the art direction in the final version.
And the plot.
And the setting.
And the characters.
And the tech.
And the score.
Disney has shown with their Marvel movies that they're the undisputed masters of "Safe and okay but not great"

>>51899447
>All "content" is good
>Thinks that gb2 /pol/ is an good retort to gb2 tumblr when there was no political content in the post.

>>51899454
>You aren't allowed to tell someone that something sounds cringworthy on /tg/ anymore
>Using "negging" outside of downtalking girls to get them into bed
>Using "negging" at all

Not even him, but seriously, go back to tumblr/reddit/gaia.
Stopping/slowing down the game for the DM to activate his ebin sounds is a shit idea that will lose its novelty factor within the first session.

>>51899608
And yet Rogue One was fantastic and took risks.

>>51899885
What risks did R1 take? I can seriously not think of one.

>>51899743
> Not even him

Said every samefag ever

>>51899933
Killing off the entire cast.

>>51899933
And having the first crossover character from tv show to movie

And not having a Jedi in the movie (that one scene not withstanding)

>>51899933
>lead character murdering someone in cold blood
>rebel forces committing terrorist acts (grenade attack amongst civilians, suicide bombing etc)
>Star Wars Osama Bin Laden
>killing off lead characters

>>51899933
>>51899933
You might have memory issues, then.

>CGI versions of beloved characters, one of whom was dead at the time.
>Downer ending, killing off the entire cast.
>Showing the Rebellion as capable of evil - Cassian murders a dude and is ordered to assassinate another - is a huge departure from how it is portrayed in the OT.
>Protagonist's surrogate father is a space terrorist and tortures people.
>No Jedi, but instead a completely different Force tradition takes the role.

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>>51900194
Maybe he watched the movie, but was given to the bor gullet afterward.

>>51900247
IIRC even that was supposed to be darker. The partisans were going to torture the pilot for information.

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>>51898183
Do you like killing your enemies before they even get to shoot at you? Take Warden squadrons with bombs and mines with Sabine crew and laugh manically as you kill defenders without ever having to shoot through their evade token.

Miranda is also the most versatile regen ship that Rebels have. I've had major success with her for the last few weeks, and am going to be taking her to the system open I'm going too.

Also the upgrades it comes with are all pretty damn good, and good with the K-wing specifically. You don't have to go hunting down two other obscure expansions to make it work, it does so right out of the box.

>>51900266
They did do that, with the bor gullet. But I get what you're trying to say.

>>51900247
>>51900266
Ah, tentacle mind rape.

Truly, a Star Wars film that took no risks.

>>51900286
Yea, by torture I meant "Shock him with a car battery" levels of torture.

>>51900293
Maybe it's not a risk in Japan?

>>51900311
I legitimately would rather be shocked with a car battery than have the bor gullet in my mind.

>>51898078
Rip 'em out of the Jedi Knight .gob files or something, it's what I did.
If you don't have Jedi Knight, hang your head in shame then go get it.

>>51888337
>Mandalorian Jedi
>this is a bad thing
Shit taste detected. As a guy who still fondly remembers his cyborg Hutt Jedi/heavy weapons specialist, get rekt

>>51900271
I'm more interested in Miranda than the Warden. I've tried putting some lists together, and finally found one I'm happy with

>Miranda Doni
>>Twin Laser Turret
>>Extra Munitions
>>Advanced Homing Missiles
>>C-3PO
>>Advanced SLAM

>Norra Wexley
>>Expertise
>>R2-D2
>>Tail Gunner
>>Alliance Overhaul
>>Vectored Thrusters

>Captain Rex (no upgrades)

Comes out to exactly 100 points.

>>51900560
It's the grey Jedi part that's bad anon.

>>51900161
>And having the first crossover character from tv show to movie
How is that a risk when only rebels and clone wars fans that watched said shows would have any negative/positive associations with said characters.

>>51899998
>>51900194
Killing off the main characters, characters that were barely given any character to begin with, that were only introduced in the movie isn't taking a risk, otherwise war/slasher movies would be the riskiest movies ever.
No Jedi is more of a risk, but not a big one when it was practically a selling point among Star Wars fans.

>>51900175
CGI Tarkin was a thing before Disney even bought Lucas Arts, I don't see how the CG characters was a big risk other than how close to the camera they were.
Only Americans think that downer ending are even close to being a bad thing.

Space bin landen and space ISIS were condemned already in the start of the movie, and was made out to be a group of renegades and fanatics, that even the rebels wanted dead long before we even saw them or even 90% of the main cast. Hell they even spoke not-arab just to drive it home that these aren't even close to being the same guys as the 70's nice guy American freedom fighter rebels and their token Fishman/Sulustrian sidekicks.
There was no ambiguity or anything, they were just another group of bad guys, that just happened to be lead by the main character's adoptive father, who abandoned her so she wouldn't become SpISIS too, which she hated him for.
I don't see how that was a big risk when they covered their ass so well that they might as well have welded their assholes shut on that point.

Yes spies and intelligence people murder people that are too much of a hindrance to their goal, and it was nice that they didn't make him Jedi-chop them over the neck so they fainted like an old James bond movie, but they barely showed any of that, and I even forgot that he killed any non-combatants other than his botched attempt at Galen.

>>51900704
>Only Americans think that downer ending are even close to being a bad thing.

Because taking a hit in the US market wouldn't be a bad thing at all for them, no sir.

>otherwise war/slasher movies would be the riskiest movies ever.

This isn't a war/slasher movie, it's a Star Wars movie. Calling someone a fucking cunt in an Australian social commentary drama ain't a risk, doing it in a Teletubbies movie is.

>and I even forgot that he killed any non-combatants other than his botched attempt at Galen.

Unless you're trying to say the movie was so bad you suffered neurological trauma from it, I don't think we should blame it for your memory issues.

>>51886346
>>51875948
The Bendu seems to be a hermit living on desolate planet pondering the totality of the force, hardly what most people mean when the say "Grey Jedi".

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What are some good/disgusting ideas for Legends New Republic MREs? The Wraith Squadron books show things like meatballs, but what else might show up in the stores of the biologically diverse New Republic military?

>>51900979
Huttese trail mix
Imagine bad chilie, dried and pressed into a bar that's been slathered with a 50/50 mix of sour cream and day-old bacon grease

>>51900857
>Because taking a hit in the US market wouldn't be a bad thing at all for them, no sir.
A small hit in the US market would be made up for by the Chinese and everybody else.

>This isn't a war/slasher movie, it's a Star Wars movie. Calling someone a fucking cunt in an Australian social commentary drama ain't a risk, doing it in a Teletubbies movie is.
It being a Star Wars movie doesn't matter, dying main characters have been done before in far better movies and even in Star Wars.
Also the Australian drama cunt thing, shit analogy.

>Unless you're trying to say the movie was so bad you suffered neurological trauma from it, I don't think we should blame it for your memory issues.
It was so fucking forgettable that I don't remembered it.

>>51900630
Because that's totally unsupported by the rules...
Again, cry more about how people are having fun you don't approve of.

>>51900979
You should always have one or two absolutely amazing MRE to make the contrast with the other, terrible meals feel even worse
Like there's the Agamar Fried Steak With Barbeque Sauce pack or the Jalapeno Nacho Calzone pack which are the absolute best, but it's rare as hell (probably the supply guys are stealing them all)

But most of the time, it's the "scrambled "eggs" with nerfmeat cubes" MRE

>>51901271
>Hey I can totally use Dark Side points/powers with no consequence
>I'm not evil I promise

>>51901278
>Jalapeno Nacho Calzone
That sounds like a horrifing abomination and also the world's best drunk food

>>51900560
Mandalorian Jedi and Hutt Jedi are both awful ideas.

You have shit taste.

>>51901278
You think that's bad? I hear those poor CompForce bastards get synthloaf with flavor packets.