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Advice on building a strong guests list?

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Thread Discussion: John Wick is cryogenically frozen by a nascent chaos god, then awakened in the 41st Millennium and told to kill the Emperor.

He is given a collection of powerful guns for the task, appropriate for the time and his body type (standard human male).

Does he succeed, or how many space marines does it take to stop him?

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Since I have two Valk by accident.

I will turn one into a Vendetta for my SoB/Inquisition army.

The other? Maybe into an Avenger?

>>51866178
>Does he succeed
No, even if he somehow managed to infiltrate the Imperial Palace he'd be vaporized by the Titans before he could get to the Emprah himself.

>>51866211
Avengers are a lot bigger than Valkyries, and Valkyries don't come with enough parts to be turned into Vendettas.

New player here. I'm having a huge issue when building my list.

I can't seem to get a good balance of weapon types down. In every game, I invariably end up either not having enough of a certain weapon profile to actually deal with my opponent's lineup, or I coincidentally happen to have everything necessary to win (like bringing too many Meltas against a tankfriend). For example, I played against a gauntspam Nid player once, and I just didn't have enough bullets to kill everything. I went against a CSM player, and his 3+/FNP Nurgle marines felt invincible against my choice of bringing a gunline. I went against Eldar and Tau, but I had too many single-fire weapons and couldn't actually bring down their big guys.

What kind of ratio is correct? How many different units should I assign to each role? How do I make a balanced all-comer list?

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>>51866213
yfw you are subtly avatarfagging and no one can do shit to you.

>>51866226
>What are extra bits?

Really? They look the same in fact smaller than Valks

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back when 40k was good

>>51866252
What was Ichar IV rebelling against?

>>51866178
Crossover cancer.

>>51866252
40k was never good

Less retarded maybe.

>>51866141
Yeah, although if you're smart about it you can do counts-as forces that allow you to go fairly Your Dudes within reason, as long as you stick to the book. I'm working an a converted Heresy Mech army that is both way cheaper than "All FW, all the time" and IMO cooler. Mad Science forever, I'll probably have some pics soon. Looks like converted armies are oddly much more accepted in 30k, since quite a lot hasn't actually got any models. Strange, since most things are Marines there and fairly strict on what's fluffy.

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>>51866244

for scale, anon

>>51866263
The Imperium?

>>51866289
Right, but
What

>>51866293
What

>>51866278
>defensive heavy stabber on tail
It's like they were making ork flyer, decided to fuck with them, but somewhere along the line they changed it to imperial flyer.

>FLGS hosting a Sigmar event all weekend to try and get more people in to it
>all tables being used for it
>don't collect Sigmar
>have to wait until next weekend to play 40k
Sadness.

I could try the other local store, I really want to but the last time I went in there they were playing a 2500 point Orks vs tau game.
the Tau player had three riptides and a stormsurge and none of them were painted.

>>51866278
It does look smaller, but more wide.

Thanks by the way.

Suggestion about the second Valk? Because honestly 260 points for 6 Lasscannons does not sound very good specially with the anti tank redundancy with SoB

What would /tg/ consider a good way to get into the tabletop with no prior experience but immense love for the lore?

Are some armies or SM chapters better than others for a new player?

What do?

>>51866349
must resist posting insulting tau pictures

>>51866293
Maybe why?
Genestealers, that's why

>>51866351

Valkyries are 125 points before weapons, and vendettas are 170. Because you said 6 lascannons, I am assuming you are talking about 2 vendettas, which is 340 points, not 260.

To answer your question, lascannons are typically not very good in IG hands. They are very expensive, only hit half the time, and exist in an edition where even rhinos take 3 shots to kill unless you get lucky - which you should never count on.

The vendetta is the best lascannon platform Ig has because it's maneuverable, durable, and twin-linked, therefore more reliable than anything else. It is still, however, not very good at killing anything heaving than AV 12 with any kind of urgency.

Taking two is overkill. One is good to mopping up light to medium vehicles and those ICs running around with 1 or 2 wounds left, but otherwise hull points just make lascannons not worth the investment of more than that.

>>51866398

>goblin green bases
>SQUARE bases
>red guns

retro as fuck

>>51866349
>playing a 2500 point
Yeah, totally viable format... i mean even 1875 get quite tedious and deaggs the game from time to time.

>>51866388
>Find a sizeable and regular 40k community within a distance you are willing to travel
>Decide on the faction you like the most.
>Decide the paint scheme you like the most.
>Download codex and rulebook from the OP
>Slowly build your army, start by aiming for a Kill Team or 500pt army with a single HQ unit.

If you're looking at Space Marines, Ultramarine and Imperial Fist tactics are probably the go-to for beginners. You can use these tactics with whatever marine army you have, so long as you confirm this with your opponent before the game starts.

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>>51866447

>>51866422
170! God damn it what is the point of this thing?!

Anyway what about Avengers. Or Valks. At least with Castellans.

On a side note is the list a suggestion or what? Because last time I check Sororitas command squads are elite in IA not HQ.

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back when 40k had style

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>>51866455
I had a 4000 points Inquisition/Sisters vs Orks. No super heavies or even Apocalypse.
Just CAD and formations.

Never again, at least not before I finish painting

>>51866388
Buy a getting started box in whatever race you like most. They are all good value and give you some decent units. Play what you like the look and fluff of and then learn the rules.

What do you like the most?

>>51866422
>and exist in an edition where even rhinos take 3 shots to kill unless you get lucky - which you should never count on.
As opposed to what? The previous editions where a Rhino was invincible unless you got lucky?

The issue with Lascannons is that they've been completely left behind as the top-end anti-tank weapon and all of the top meta units are way too tough or way too cheap for a lascannon to be worth it.

>>51866559
World Eaters, Imperial Fists or Orks

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>>51866511

Avengers aren't too great, either, desu. The 7-shot gatling cannon is ok, but given how much everything is in cover now it doesn't really get to shine much. It comes with hardpoints for 2 additional weapons, so you can have 5 total (gatling, 2 lascannons, 2 autocannons, for example) but with the current flyer rules you can only fire 4 of them per turn, so you waste points equipping them.

Valks with the rocket pods are ok, and really they are more useful as flying obj sec units than as board wipers. They go very well with the platoon command squad, which is an almost completely useless 5-man unit on its own but can be stuck in a valk to make a fast objective nabber. This is what I do with my vendetta, btw.

I don't know about the sororitas stuff, but I do know that both Imperial Agents and the Inquisition PDF codices are legit right now. you can field the rules in one or both as you see fit.

>>51866560

In previous editions there were no hullpoints. You penetrated something and rolled on a table, there was a 50% chance it died right there.

>>51866560

Back in third and fourth, you penned a vehicle and rolled on a table with a 50% chance the vehicle died right there. All vehicles got a huge survivability boost with the addition of hullpoints, and lascannons have never caught up to them.

>>51866273
After seeing how Imperial Militias is almost at the point you can grab anything that fits the nature of the rules, I'm looking at making a Dwarf-themed army for either 30k or 40k, but I have to get through my AdMech first before I touch a new list.

Speaking of, are two barebones Dragoons enough to get their job done on a charge? I figure they're built for stalking the map and running down anyone trying to flee your gunlines.

>>51866586
Making a poke about stupid GW rules.

In IA SCS are elite in the AS they are HQ but you can only get them if you buy an HQ. In the FoC they are listed as HQ and with no restriction.

So that is why I wonder if the list is just a suggestion or what. And let's not start with marine bikes.

What about Veterans in Valks? I currently run my Chimeras with psybolt and double heavy bolter since 2x S6 AP4 Heavy 3 helps just to force saves.

With how much re-rolls and cover saves there is that is the only thing I can realiably do with SoB. Force saves and eventually things will die.

>>51866568
Id recommend imperial fists if you feel equally about all 3. Low model count and you can learn with a forgiving army. Plus imperial fists have some solid rules.

Orks are super fun but require a large amount of money to play and lots of painting. They suffer from having pretty much the worst codex as well currently.

World eaters just got a new update which makes them awesome and one.of the strongest chaos armies.

>>51866455
Every time I go in there they're playing MASSIVE apoc level games.

The guys in there all look late 20s/well in to their 30s so I'm guessing they're all massive oldfags who haven't seen new blood in there for an age.

That's why it's so intimidating.

>>51866660

Veterans in valks is a bit of a waste because you can't shoot out of valks.

Vets are BS4 with a great weapon selection, and hiding them in a vehicle all day without shooting them is a complete waste of their potential. Likewise, dropping them out of a valk just to get mowed down or charged and die is a waste.

Vets should always be in chimeras, always always. You get to fire your choise of two weapons out the back, you get to move 6" per turn, you benefit from AV 12 and hullpoints, and if the vehicle is charged you almost always just walk out of the wreck and melt whatever blew it up.

>>51866665
Fists it is, then. Thanks, anon

>>51866700
Remember that yellow is a very hard color to paint, so there's always the Crimson Fists or any of their other sucessor chpaters.

>>51866669

>tfw an anon just described exactly you as old and intimidating

>>51866689
What about throwing suicidal Acolyte squads with plasmas and shit from it?

I'm trying to find a use for this things. At least for one of them.

>>51866718
>yellow is a very hard color to paint
Unless you prime white, grey or tan in which case it's easy as piss.

>>51866700
No problem. I suggest the getting started box and an extra tactical box. 2x 10 tactical marines is a great base for your army.

>>51866718
Nah its really not anymore. Gw 's paints have come a long way.

>>51866740
>>51866718
>>51866736
Will do

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Fell asleep last night, posting more pics from my last battle. My skitarii and Grey Knights fought against a Grey Knight/Custodes alliance and nearly tabled them. The poor GK player failed several charges he really should have made.

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So what's a guide to modifying models to make cool gore effects like seen here?

>>51866536
Jesus Christ anon that sounds horrible

>>51866735

The thing about "suicide" units is that they have to kill something in excess of their points to be worth committing sudoku over. That almost always means melta spam targeting high point armor units.

So I guess the answer is sure, so long as you aren't wasting points on more than 5 models that will almost certainly die the following turn, and that the models you are using can carry enough melta to successfully get their one shit kill off, and also that your opponent has a target worth dying over like that.

I've found that putting meltaguns in chimera is better because you can just drive up to something and shoot out the back. If the other guy blow up the chimera, your guys just hop out and shoot again. All this for fewer points than a valk, albeit with less speed.

>>51866794

That's funny.
The last game I played with Grey knights had them fail two 4" charges.

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My Guardsman killing some Raveh Guard fucks in my last game /tg/ which was pretty fun. Managed to kill a Knight turn two by outflanking it and hitting it from all sides in the most tacti/k/al of ways. But what are you anons up to? I'd love to hear about your games too and might even do a batrep later too.

Am I holding the line right fellow Guard anons?

What's the best loadout for DW Vanguard vets/Termies/Bikers?

Only consensus them be on DW armament seem to be Frag-cannons for Vets.

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>>51866825
The funny thing is, I'm debating selling my Grey Knights, because I feel like they aren't painted very well and aren't worth playing for the moment.

>>51866816
Well I run MSU SoB so everything dies after killing something.

The flowchart is
>Move girls in transport to targe
>Shoot target from the hatch
>Move closer even more
>Vomit girls near target
>Hope your meltaguns/flamers do their job
>Die next turn regardless if the target die or not.
>If they survive some how repeat.

That is my concept of suicidal squad, everything is one when your army fights at 12" range most of the time.

Right now in my normal list there is at least 4 TL-MM and 10 meltaguns. With at least 12 flamers.

Not sure if you see my problem finding a use for the things. But thanks anyway

>>51866886

I thought SoB vehicles had fire points?

>>51866844
>selling

I usually advocate against it. (So long as you have the money to start a new one)

I've shelved my Grey Knights after getting bored of the "7e Codex"
>Which was basically the 5e - Inquisition - Assassins + 7e FAQ

Tho Rise of the Primarch has peaked my interest and started more work on them

>>51866925
They have a rhino (is that 2 points?) And Immolator (1 point). That reminds me where do I find the faq for that? I probably need to show it around at my club when I go to play.

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>>51866842
>playing night lords
>ADB books fuck yeah
>first talon, raptor wing and terminator annihilation force
>all of this alpha strike feels good man
> beat the necron player, Reeeees audibly, throws and breaks some of his models and take about how inconceivable being tabled by chaos is for his power army
>taubro is more chill, I'm able to wheather his firestorms (stealth and +1 cover command bonus shit yeah) and curb stomp his suits
>close game all my deepstrikes come in a turn late
>guardbro, master of the meta
>leman Russ overload, some deathwatch loads of infantry
>only lost like one game
>I've conquered the aliens
>I've stepped on the robots
>but the guard hold the line
Fuck I love guard but watching all my night lords getting ploughed by some hive world fucks with metal boxes really hurts my soul
Hold me /40kg/

>>51866952
I lost this game the first leman Russ pulls forwards and the demolisher takes one shot and wipes the terminators and the red solo cup holds a dreadnought

>>51866939

Rhinos have 2, yes.

So just rush forward, pop smoke. Next turn forward again 6", shoot meltas or heavy flamers out of your vehicles. Drive forward, repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

SoB is actually in a good place to make good use of the hullpoint rules. Rhinos are dirt cheap and they have to be glanced/penned 3 times before they go down. Force the other guy to chew through huillpoints while you melt him, then kill your squad once they jump out of the wreck.

>>51866952
>deep strike, pile in
>get shot by pie plate
What does he mean by that.

>>51866925
Yes they have.

Rhinos has 2 on the top, Immolator has 1 on the top and Repressor Master Race has 3 on each side and 2 on the top.

>>51866999
The terminators ya doofus

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Still no Fabius Bile Primogenitor audiobook?

>>51866952

It hurts me inside whenever I see guard infantry in tiny, easily-digested 10 man units.

>>51867033
They started off in blobs of like 30
I shot them a lot

So I was thinking I'd toss my hat in the ring for this year's Armies on Parade, but I have a question. Can you use third-party conversion bitz such as Kromlech, MaxMini and EvilCraft?

>>51867155
Did you bother looking up the AoP's FAQ?

>>51867014
I-is his syringe supposed to be his boltgun, or am I missing something here?

>>51867210
Xyclos needler.

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My skitarii Infiltraitors hold a narrow pass against a tide of Ork Boyz in a gazhkull deathstar formation. I severely underestimated how fast the Gazhkull formation was, and lost quite a few units to power claws.

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>>51866213
Well since this is "HE". Aeldari are total gay.

>>51867253
I'm pretty sure that isn't either a "he" or a "she".
More like an "it"

>>51867253
Why does it have blue cheese surrounding it?

>>51867300
It's letting you know from a glance what you're getting.

>>51867300
to show all nearby slaaneshi daemons "I am your happy meal"

>>51867236
>The skitarii cunningly lure the orks into close combat to prove the superiority of human tech

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>>51867331
You were calling?
Brother Adamant still serves with the Ultramarines. The Orks have lost their lives a long time ago.

>>51867409
is he in a dreadnaught, now?

>>51867465
No, he is facing Orks. They probably killed them self.

As a Nid player, i have a question. I was wondering if i have one gaunt in ruins, does the entire squad get the cover save?

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>>51866810
I recognize that chaos scum.
Just go red and wash. Some people use hot glue to get super creative.

>>51867487
I think the rule is 50 percent

>>51867488
>hot glue

I blame the internet for that one.

>>51867497
Of the squad, that is

>>51867465
>About 30 Orks against a named Space Marine
Do you honestly think they'd do more than scratch a bit of his armors paint off?

>>51867505
Hrm, that's still really odd. I was using it in a pretty cheesy manner with venomthropes for 2+ cover essentially out in the open

>>51867487
Nope, that Gaunt gets the cover save and so you need to take saves one at a time since it'll go away when he fails one.

E.G. Squad causes 8 AP- wounds against Gants, two in open, then two in cover, then two in open again. Roll 2 6+s, if you pass both roll 2 more, of one failed roll 1 more until fail. Then roll 2 covers, same deal, then back to armour. You roll saves in batches of however many you can fail before you get to allocating wounds onto a model with a different save.

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How hard is it to recast your own GW minis? Just talking about things like arms and weapons(SM)

Is there a guide somewhere I can view for this sort of stuff?

Asking for a friend

>>51867594

I just wanna state this, but that isn't actually a girl

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Avenging Angels poster time.

Which scheme do you guys prefer for the Deathwing of the chapter?

>>51867622
Hard to tell, but... the left one.

rate my list
+ HQ +

Big Mek ['Eavy Armour, Gubbinz: Mega Force Field, Killsaw, Slugga, Warbike]

Zhadsnark 'Da Rippa' (FW) [Warlord, Zhadsnark]

+ Elites +

Grot Tank Battle Mob (FW)
Grot Tank [Grotzooka]
Grot Tank [Grotzooka]
Kommanda [2x Grotzooka]

+ Troops +

Zhadsnark's Warbikers [14x Warbiker]
Warbiker Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw]

Zhadsnark's Warbikers [4x Warbiker]
Warbiker Nob [Power Klaw]

Zhadsnark's Warbikers [4x Warbiker]
Warbiker Nob [Power Klaw]

Zhadsnark's Warbikers [3x Warbiker]
Warbiker Nob [Power Klaw]

+ Fast Attack +

Deffkoptas
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

Deffkoptas
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

Deffkoptas
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

++ Orks: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++

+ HQ +

Big Mek ['Eavy Armour, Gift: Da Lucky Stikk, Killsaw, Kustom Mega-blasta, Warbike]

Painboy [Warbike]

+ Troops +

Gretchin [10x Gretchin]
Runtherd [Grabba stik]

Gretchin [10x Gretchin]
Runtherd [Grabba stik]

>>51866388
Battle for vedros is a great deal if you can find someone to split it wtih.

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>>51866237
>every model looks the same
they do? I mean there's only like 6 units per codes but they look pretty unique

they're pretty strong and new, and IMO the fluff is pretty cool.

>>51866349
tau player at my flgs just turned up recently with 3 unpainted riptides attached to his Khorne army. he (seemingly) didn't understand why I thought that was fluff rape and also faggy.

>>51866237
Why do people like Necrons? They'e the lamest faction in the game, every single model looks exactly the same.

>>51867667
It is a meme love. Ignore him.

Some anon or anons keep asking the same thing about Cog boys.

Ignore, report, call the cops or whatever, just don't give them (you)

>>51867594
Get Oyumaru and Green Stuff.
Heat up the Oyumaru in hot water, to make it soft. Now press the arm, weapon, whatever into it and let it cool down, so it gets hard. Put the greenstuff into the mold, and wait for it to become hard. That's about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKh195Binjs

>>51867641
>A Big Mek with mega armour can take one of the following
- Tellyport blasta…25 pts

>>51867713
Because they have more personality than any other faction. They can be good or evil. Serious or silly. Silent or bombastic. No other factions matches their OC range.

I mean see the Orks and craftworld Eldar. They are one tone armies. You cannot diversify the way you write them in OC.

So what was up with that Eldrad story?

>hey lets advance the plot just a little bit
>joking, nothing really happened

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>>51867713
I know this is a sarcastic replay, but -
>hating based robbo skellingtons

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>>51867253
The book doesn't give Yncarne a gender. So I am going with HER/SHE since she has boobs and she is QT.

>>51867756
Biel-Tan is dead at the moment. Vect's control over the Dark Eldar is getting non-existent by the hour.

And Yncarne helped Cawl ress Girlyman.

>>51867588
Cool, thanks for the info!

>>51867521
It doesn't even state what clan the orks are from, they stand no chance.

>>51867641
>15 deffkopta

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>>51866237

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>>51867740
Thank you kindly. I'll get some Oyumaru asap.

>>51867826
I think you'll also find it as bluestuff, that might help too. I guess it's not different.

>>51866237
Why do people like Tau? They'e the lamest faction in the game, every single model looks exactly the same.

>>51866237
Why do people like Space Marines? They'e the lamest faction in the game, every single model looks exactly the same.

>>51867881
Why do people like Warhammer 40k? They'e the lamest wargame in the world, every single model looks exactly the same.

>>51867895
That is infinity. God damn it I want to like that game but good god the models are boring

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What role will Tau have in the gathering storm?

Holy shit I love the immolator turret design

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>>51867942
It is pure sex

>>51867895
Why do people like 4chan? It's the lamest site on the net, and every single board looks exactly the same.

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Who /Deldar/ here?

>>51867962

more like
dedeldar

very soon

>>51867934
Probably none.
But if they wanted to force them in, there's a lot of choices.
>Farsight's sword is an Eldar artifact so he's called in to help
>Farsight's sword is a Necron artifact so he's called in to help
>Farisight and Shadowsun are forced to move deeper into the Imperium's territory to avoid the Chaos-possessed wall of flame that separates them from the main forces, bringing them closer to the action
>Farsight and Shadowsun are forced to fight their way through the Chaos-possessed wall of flame, which branches into even more possibilities including bringing them into the action through Warp/Chaos shenanigans

>>51867942
beautiful, logical design with quad-linked flamers and cover for the gunner

What's not to love?

>>51867967
>dedeldar
Nonsense. Some Aeldari will have to drive the taxis and give guided webway tours for their superior brethren. And neither the Way of the Taxi Driver or Way of the Tour Guide exist on any Craftworld.

>>51867985
>>51867955
The pics I've seen do not do justice to it. I wasn't expecting to look this good.

>>51866669
Don't assume, just go.

>>51867990

You got a point

>>51867974
They'll probably get teleported. Traveling from one side of the galaxy to the other without warp travel is gonna take hundreds of years.

>>51868016

kek
>Lets throw all the tau inside the warp and see what happens

I can see Eldrad doing this

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>>51867997
SoB vehicles are one of the most 40k thing in 40k. Just look at the Exorcist!

Immolator just happen to make sense outside of 40k

>>51868032
They deserve new models, and by that I mean new models of already existing ones and new units with new models.

Love theyr baroque and gothic design, the essence of 40k.

>>51868046
What is that you want more marines?
Can do!

>>51868046
>Love theyr baroque and gothic design, the essence of 40k.
That's probably because their models are still in 3rd edition.

>>51868071
3rd edition was gods edition.

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>>51868091

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>>51868094
I'm glad you agree

>>51868091
It was less stupid, it still had problems but even with things like Rhino rush, double lash, Eldar bullshit, devilfish, etc. It was not as fucking broken as some shit of today

Are nids only race without D weapon?
Even their titan is S10 only.

>>51868133
With easy access or writhin their codex?

>>51867487
Both faggots that answered you are wrong, kind of. The whole unit does not get a cover save for one being in cover, but determine which models are "closest" (depending on weapon used on you) and if there is even LoS to your other models, then roll one at a time as mentioned by second guy until you get into or out of cover.

Actually just buy a venomthrope. Venomthropes convey shrouded to the whole unit if only a model is in range. Does that fix the confusion.

>>51868016
>Eldar Triumvirate (along with the Imperium Triumvirate) traveled to Macragge to wake up Roboute Guilliman.

>In Rise of the Primarch, since the Eldar are mych closer to the Tsu they are going to go "hang on we smell a Cronesword"

>They fuck off to find Farsight. It's how GW writes the Eldar out of book 3.

>Find out Farsight has a crone sword
>Tau recruited into Eldar book
>They use the Webway to become a real threat.
>Detachment that lets you take Tau and Eldar as Battle Brothers

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Okay guys, let's say that theoretically I pack 6 5-man tac squads with 6 razorbacks in my DA army (razorbacks are free); how should I kit them?
I also bring one long-range lascannon dev squad, one droppoding multimelta dev squad and 2 5-man naked assault squads with jumpacks.

Also one darkshroud and 3 landspeeders with 2 multimeltas each.

>>51866349
>friend wants to try age of shit.
>think it might not be so bad since the generals handbook came out.
>make the mistake of brining gryph Knights.
>they murder everything.

No more sigmar.

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What color scheme would y'all suggest for the visors on these elysians? Been pondering this for days.

>>51868197
Green

>>51868197
Blue

>>51868197
Looks like a bunch of troubleshooters. Friend computer suggests going for the black glossy shades look, because that'd work, and is something within their clearance level.

Also very simple since they're already black. A small, sharp highlight and a gloss coat, done.

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What colors should I paint this gas mask guard?

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>>51867331
They actually won, and consolidated onto an objective. The death Star later on ended up killing them with power claw attacks.

>>51868197
Dark orange

>>51868143
Duncan please stop shitposting

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>>51868071
That's why I like the look of the Scions, they actually fit the theme.

Now if only Guard had some decently priced shit that didn't look like a Starship troopers ripoff. (or other lame gimmick, looking at you Catachan)

>>51867775
How about "they" it's a gender-neutral pronoun. I use it if I forgot somebody's name and it works.

>>51867641
ya dont need 'eavy armor on a bike ya git

>>51868175
Something murdering everything because it's op? That would never happen in 40k. AoS truly is garbage!

>>51868197
The proportions on the Elysians look REALLY off campared to the default guard/Tempestus. They resemble stick figures.

>>51868265

a somber gray anointed in nuln oil

>>51867622
Dude, they look like the Guardians of the Covenant. But green instead of red.

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>>51867014
Fine.
I'm gonna buy it.

>35 fucking Euros

>>51868374
Do we even have any of the audiobook files on here? I haven't seen 'em.

>>51867740
Fuck that looks easy. Time to copy the shit out of those guardsmen melta and plasma guns arms. Screw you GW.

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Game 2 with my Skitarii against Genestealer Cults. I won, but boy is a 20-man squad of Genestealers tough to kill. Are pie plates that solution?

>>51866263
It was the most infamous Genestealer Cult uprising like, ever. Ichar IV was like the Armageddon of the second Tyrannic War.

>>51868384
We have a Mega, but it hasn't been upgraded in a while.
Still, there is a lot of stuff.

Is there any info about Sensei in 3rd ed rulebook?

Why so many rumours about 8th edition.

>>51868404

As someone who has done this be forwarned it is slightly harder than it looks, and you need to do it right. First things first you need to build yourself a frame for the mold. Your also going to need something you can use to apply pressure to it evenly and some clamps. Also, arms are tricky because the "mold line" so to speak, can obscure some detail.. Its actually easier to cast things like torso's and legs. I did a step by step tutorial with pictures in a WIP thread a while back. It'd be a bit of work but it might be worth your time to go to 4plebs and dig around until you find it.

>>51868412
Got a link? I don't see 'em in any of the megas at the top.

>>51868448
last mega in op

>>51868307
Ok :c

>>51868442
I've seen a lot of people use legos to solve the issues with a frame and flat pressure.

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>>51868311
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the Cadians either. I feel that they were designed while Halo was a huge thing, and their design borrows a lot off the Halo marines, which themselves are pretty generic sci-fi soldier designs.

I'd like a less modern, more gothic design.

Just because they're being sent to die in their billions doesn't mean they wouldn't have armour and equipment covered in unneccesary gothic bling.

>>51867775
>since she has boob and she is QT.

fix'd 4 u

>>51868461
Thanks, I was looking at the completely wrong set of Megas. Yeah, it definitely does look a bit thin.

>>51868384
Russian sites tend to be good for 40k audiobooks.

>>51868474

That is how I do it, and it works.

>>51868499
>I feel that they were designed while Halo was a huge thing
>Cadia
Anon, you need to stop right now.

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>>51868333
I've always felt that the cadians are out of proportion related to other humans. They are giant manbabies in size.

>>51868623
Are those Recast? Or just bad FW?

>>51868647

they are FW elysians

>>51868647
People forget that resin is garbage.

>>51868670
Oh god I thought they were recast.

>>51868410
>20-man squad of Genestealers tough to kill. Are pie plates that solution?

I don't think so. Remember they only have a 5++, so just drown them in saves.

If you're Skittles
>7 Cancerguns will cause about 5-6 dead Genestealers if you're BS5+

>>51868499
Do yourself a favor and go watch/read Starship Troopers.

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>>51868683
Games-Workshop resin is garbage

Tits aside the quality is way better than GW, 3 of them cost less than a single Vyridian.

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Thoughts? Is this the best way to organize this set up? I had them in one big CAD but I split them into two because I was over the fast attack limit. Also combined two 6 unit squads of repentia into one 10 unit squad so they could all roll with Uriah, but that means one repentia and one mistress is getting left out.

I know I should have rhinos but I hate them

>>51868709
Where are they from?

>>51868688
They also have stealth all game and shrouded turn 1 which means you can potentially be looking at a 2+ cover save even with an omnispex.

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>>51868739
Based Brother Vinni

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>>51868683

>>51868743
Ally some SoB with flamers?

>>51868743
On top of that the Patriarch can roll Endurance, Shrouding or Invisibility.

Endurance stacked with the iconward aura means a 3+ FnP

>>51868499
You know you're a retard, right?

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Rate GK list. No memes pls.

>>51866237
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Didn't get much from /wip/ so I'll post here as well. More-or-less finished Chimera that is also my first model in nearly a decade. I'm not 100% on the mud effects as they stand, though, so any thoughts or comments are appreciated. Apologies for the mediocre pictures.

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>>51868572
The new Cadian models, not Cadia as a concept.

Old Cadians looked more like they were ripping on the Rebels from Star Wars

>go watch/read Starship Troopers.

Well the book Cap Troopers wear 7ft tall jetpack-equipped power armor filled with flamethrowers and micro-nuclear rockets so I don't see the connection with Cadian visual design.

As for the movie, as I said, it's a really generic sci-fi design but I suspect the Cadian models released around 2003 were based more on the hugely popular video game designs from 2001 than on designs from a cult movie from the 90's.

>>51868794
You would be surprised how little effect flamers have, actually. They don't deep strike so they're never bunched up, a bunch of 32mm base models spread out means you'll hit maybe 2 or 3 per template, at T4 you'll only wound about half of them and then they get invulns and maybe Feel No Pain. That's if you even get a chance to shoot them at all outside of overwatch before they charge, and they can use some 40-50 point chaff squad to eat overwatch for them.

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>>51868839
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>>51868873
Well the traditional "Trust the Bolter" will do then

Put enough shots to force a save.

>>51868875
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>>51868875
>>51868882
>>51868894
>>51868904
>>51868839

LMAO XD DO I FIT IN YET 000001140204014042 L M A O

>>51868816
>Waaah ur opinion triggers me

Either present counter-argument or don't waste your time typing, I don't care if I've upset you if you can't even be bothered to explain why you disagree.

>>51868894
>>51868882
>>51868875
>>51868904
>>51868839
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>>51868875
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>>51868796
He can also roll Iron Arms, Lifeleech, and/or Mental Fortitude. Relying on Powers doesn't always work

>Daemon of Tzeentch player here. Some games even with ~7+ rolls I don't get what I need.

>>51868743
And that 2+ Cover still works vs Blasts and the like.

Still doesn't change that imo your best bet is to use weight of dice over Blasts.

>I'm also assuming your pure Cog aka Skittles, Cult Mech, maybe a Knight

>Emperor's Wrath would have a field day.

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>>51868839
>>51868875
>>51868882
>>51868894
>>51868904
>>51868916
>>51868920

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So uhh I was thinking about doing some kind of "Griffith oriented chapter" but I just realised the fucker is pretty much Fulgrim.

Do I make them Emperor's Children unknown succsessors or something?

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>>51868896
Much better off with the radium guns on vanguard.

20 models is not going to go down easy and it only takes like 5 of them to absolutely body anything in the Skitarii force.

>>51868913
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>>51866148
Keep flipping those burgers, anon.
You are doing god emperor's work.
>Implying if someone hates their job, that they flip burgers

Sisterfags, is there any reason to field Celestians instead of command squads other than different act of faith?

The only other differences I can see are
>Superior (with same stats as everyone else in squad)
>Can only take melta bomb on superior (though command squad has to pay for entire unit, so it is cheaper)
>Can only take 2 special or 1/1 special/heavy weapons instead of 5/5
>Can't take weapons from melee/ranged list on everyone, just superior
>Can't take a standard or a banner
>Can't take hospitaller or dialogus (and thus can't take a relic)
>+5 point cost

The requirement to have a canoness is no longer there and they both take up the same slot now. Am I missing something? Like is the canoness requirement still there but on a different page of imperial agents?

>>51868964
There alot loyal traitor legions.
Minotaurs = Iron Warriors
Black Shield = Death Watch
Thousand Sons = Blood Ravens
Death Guard = something something GK, Garro, Inquisition.

>>51869021
>is there any reason to field Celestians
No.

>>51869025
You forgot to add Carcharodons = World Eaters to your list of factually incorrect memes.

>>51868915
Cadian plastic kit 2003
First Cadian model was from 1995
Halo 2001

Sister of Battle 1997... I got sad /tg/

>>51869025
>Minotaurs = Iron Warriors
You're gonna need a source on that, anon. The others might be implied, but that's a new one.

>>51869021
Nop Celestians are like the old 3rd edition veteran squads

Totally useless

>>51869025
Minotaurs were rumoured to have Chimeric geneseed, that is cobble together from a mix of others.

>>51867768
In fairness they can get a bit samey, but that makes converting them all the more fun

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>>51869051
>Sister of Battle 1997... I got sad /tg/

Plastics soon™ tho rite?

>>51869025
>Death Guard = something something GK, Garro, Inquisition.
Also Sons of Anataeus

>>51869051
>1997

20 years.

Holy shit my models are older than my dead dog.

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>>51869133
soon

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>>51868916

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Do the Ynari have a unified colour scheme?

Thinking of starting a Adarki Aeldari army and was thinking I might want to add other stuff to it in the future if I want to cheese.

I like sticking to canon paint schemes due to muh autism.

>>51869168
reverse Biel-Tan

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>>51869168
Its in general red, it shows so in the codex, like my venom

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>>51866349
>Ooga booga, my Tau are fun to play against and take skill to use

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This is the third time i try to paint a flag and fail miserably, now, does someone has any suggestion on how to paint smoothly over them? (except that the usual pain thinning which i do with water and in my third attempt i tried with a medium)

>>51869168

why is 40k in pastels now?

Christ their new artists suck

>>51869153
The news model are from 2004.

Seraphim Superior and Canoness
Followed by the Immolator on the same year.

About 2 month after Witch Hunter where release.

The 4 new body positive tranny are rather insulting.

>>51869168
Yvraine's force in particular is red. Basically what you see in all the promo shots. However those are her personal colors and other Ynnari may be different. They also make a point that some Ynnead supports do not change their colors in order to hide their allegiance.

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Can we get some gore going?

>>51866512
Looks pretty much exactly the same friendo. Your nostelgia glasses are full thick geek style.

>>51869198
Do you think there are any black women that play 40k?

>>51869224
>>51869185
Thanks, red it is then.

Gonna have to actually buy the codex too.

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>>51869214
They mostly commission artists. The artists paint in whatever their style is.

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>>51869235
>mfw that pic and Skitarii player

The codex even mentions how Skitarii won't deploy via flyer or vehicle, they just march to the battlefield, even if it takes them years to arrive.

Rubbing the lack of transports in our faces in our own codex.

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>>51869123
Well, GW uses the most vanilla colour scheme possible for their models, so that's not really helpful. But I really love the looks of the Overlord, Lychguard, Spider, Wraith and the basic warrior.
And you could use Tomb King bits for really neat conversions!

>>51868133
Yes.

>>51869246
Well you'll need four books to have everything. CE/DE/H/FoB.

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>>51869271
>those child-bearing hips on the Saint

I hope this artist gets more work with GW.

>>51869300

I prefer 40k to not be bright sky blue all the time, so no thanks

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>>51869229
There you go, anon.

>>51868160
I'd literally puke.

>>51869274
How the fuck do they get from planet to planet? Or even land on said planet without transports
Macro cannon them to the next planet or what?

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What is a good colour scheme for an Imperial Guard regiment that works for the inquisition as a personal purge force?

>>51868837
>Asks for help
>Tells us how not to provide help
How about you eat a bag of dick, dakkadakka friend.

>>51869299
Yeah, I've got DE and that'll be the bulk of the force. I'll just get the others if I want anything particular to add. Still haven't got 1500pts of models so it's a while off.

>>51869347
Black with red details. You know the classic.

>>51869343
Mass conveyors.

Giant cargo haulers.

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>>51869278
>Tomb King
who?

>>51869263
Nice dead bloody marine horse cock there, friend.

>>51869343
Skitarii =\= AdMech. The Adeptus Mechanics overall has vehicles for days. Beyond making most of the SM/IG tech we also know that workers on forge worlds use Goliath trucks.

Anyone know any good yuropoor sites for buying bitz?

Want some guns for my Skitarii so I can spam plasma calivers.

>>51869274
Are they insistent on not using transports?
Is there some fluff reason why they are insistent of being retards?

>>51869235
>no fliers
>one of the best anti-air in the game
meh

>>51869315
>Thinking that is a "bright blue sky scenario
That was the one bit of hope for a dying army. I think you need to get your depression checked.

>>51868473
Never stop, Duncan.

>>51869389
Because they hate vehicles and machines, obviously

>>51869347
Red and/or black.

>>51868709
>Tits aside the quality is way better than GW, 3 of them cost less than a single Vyridian.
Because only creepos would buy 3 rape victims

>>51868197
Your guys look like straight up EDF 2017.

EDF

EDF

EDF

>>51869389
Nope, Skitarii have their legs cut off below the knee and replaced with metal ones to increase their mobility on foot, but it still doesn't really explain why the personal armies of the AdMech aren't given access to the transport vehicles they ship in the billions to the rest of the Imperium's forces.

>>51867409
Shit I remember this in the WD.

Based Adamant.

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>>51869441
>only creepos would buy 3 rape victims

But how else will I be able to convert Inquistor Greyfax strapped as a figurehead to the front of my Archon's raider?

I'm not sculpting that shit from greenstuff.

>>51868863
Needs more splatter on the rest of the tread. Dip toothbrush in wet brown and run thumb backwards to flick paint so the line of mud isn't so clean.

>>51869364
See, that's the beauty of it. You might impress 40kfags and trigger fantasyfags, all while having a competitive army that isn't full-on "That Guy"-tier and also looks fairly unique and is still quite fluffy. It would be perfect, if you didn't have to look on ebay for bits and miniatures to use.

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>>51869278
I'd love too, but I never got my chance to buy any and China man is too... obscure for me to figure out, so I'm brute forcing, this is a pic I took to show a friend how creative you can get, but in the background is the lych-shabti I'm working on, I have since improved the design

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>>51869364
>tomb kings got squatted despite having a plastic range, full on fluff, plenty of characterization
>before sisters with their full metal figures and years of being ignored

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>>51867409
He'd probably win, Orks aren't a melee army.

>>51869507
Oh sorry, sorry, I forgot. Creepos and Deldar players.

>>51869481
How do metal shins and feet help you with running faster?

>>51869530
Nono, see 3+ is the worst armour in the game and marines are the worst troops.

>>51869534
40k logic.

>>51868865
I always loved the old 3E metal cadians.

Maybe with Rogue One and those cool ass rebel commandos GW would be willing to resculpt them in their former space vietnam glory

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>>51869534
Like that only more sci-fi

>>51869530
I wonder how much more effective the IG would be if they weren't being fed counterproductive propaganda.

>>51869525
Tomb kings fans are holding out hope, their rules have not been banned from tournament play, and the fact that they had such interesting modles just screams to be giving them a rerelease, they may be trying to do something about their more dated figures, I don't know myself

Question: You can heat up plastic minatures and repose them to a certain degree, but can you do this with resin sculpts?

>>51869567
That's probably the point, the imperium is too high on itself to actually change its tactics for the better

>>51866178
He would essentially be your average vindicare assassin, with the combat capabilities of a calidus. So no, a single imperial assassin would not kill the emperor

>>51869200
Use windex

>>51869581
Yes. In fact it works much better with resin.

>>51869441
Prisoners of war.

The rape victims are other models.

Like Orks they are all screaming in pain

>>51869567
-30% from mass desertion, pre-battle self injury, suicide and refusing to obey suicidal orders.

>>51866842
You're doing the Emperor's Work GGA. I'm nearing the end of my Conscript prisoner models. They are going to charge headfirst into the battle for redemption.

>>51866952
I'm surprised he won looking at that picture. It looks like there's only like 8 models left and 2 tanks. How did he win?

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>>51869395

So i take it this is also the "bit of hope for a dying army", too?

Get your eyes checked. This artist just uses bright blue as the background for fucking everything he does. It's ugly.

>>51869389
They have Crusader and Dunestrider. Don't need to drive when you run like that.

>>51869567
S3 = S3
I3 > I2

It's not propaganda.

>>51869602
Not the same artist

>>51869595
Really? Stuff always seems so brittle.

Brb, going to go snap mini in half because anon from 4chins told me it'd bend.

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>>51869602

bluuuuuuuuuuuuuue

>LGS starting escalation league
>more casual players join who are usually scared of the local tourneys we have
>$50 prize for winning
>decide to join, sounds fun and lots of people i like are in it
>notice shithead WAAC player also signs up
>is insufferable to play against and throws childish fits when he rarely looses, he no doubt is in the league for the prize money
>look at what i have, know i could build a list that would sweep the entire league with shit like forge world earthshaker platforms and wyverns, would especially hard counter the army he would be running
>know the list would rape anyone else but him to a level of probably tabling most people by turn 2-3
>realize my folly and build a more fun list
>save my rapist list for only when i'm playing the waacfag since we know who we play a week before the game

does anyone else have to fight the corrupting urge to be that guy sometimes?

>>51869531
I think they make good bits if you're willing to chop the figs up, cultists, feral worlders, etc.

I'm going to pick up the "mountain horror" as a base for a kroxigor

>>51869626
Fuck off m8 that looks gr8

>>51869623
Tell/show us how it worked out, anon. Pictures preferred.

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>>51869626

I guess in all fairness he used blue-green for this one

>>51869644

yeah because in the grim darkness of the far future battles take place under pastel skies only

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>>51869623
Forgeworld has a number of kits that include parts that must be bent to fit. Such as the power cables here.

>>51869607
S3<T4
A1<A2
forgot some important ones there with that b8

>>51868160
More like
>Gulliman gets revived
>greyfax and celestine hate fuck each other
>all male eldar get executed under Gulliman orders
>eldar qts get transported to developing hive world's to become imperial waifus

Who doesn't like some gene cult? Eldar. Thats who. Judge this list to be worthy or in need of repair!:

Cult Insurrection Detachment 1850 (1845)

Neophyte Cavalcade:
x3 Leman Russ battle Exterminators with heavy bolter sponsons and heavy stubbers
Scout Sentinel with heavy flamer
x2 10 man neophyte squads, leader with web pistol, cult icon, x2 flamers, chimera with multi laser and heavy stubber

Subterranean Uprising:
Primus with sword of the voids eye
x4 5 man acolyte squads with 2 demo pack and an icon in each squad
x3 5 man metamorph squads with icon and claw upgrade

The First Curse:
Patriarch with 2 familiars
x20 Purestrains

Swamp important shit in demo packs followed by purestrain swarm while the russes support from afar and the neophytes hop on objectives where necessary.

>>51869673
5+>6+

>>51869680
>imperium and eldar interbreed into half-dar ubermenche

>>51868709
What do you tell your female relatives when they ask you why you bought those?

>>51869680
>no one can figure out how the ridiculously complex eldar reproductive system works

also celestineXgreyfax art when?

>>51869708
Like the old ultramarine librarian?

>>51869708
>Implying adding Xenos blood is any form of improvement.
Kill yourself.

>>51869708
Wouldn't Slaanesh still just nom their souls?

>>51869719
Since I'm from a Latin culture they say nothing beside they lack ass or "my tits look better"

Not everyone is a Protestant that is afraid of tits.

>>51869727
>>51869735
>What is hybrid vigor
Just enough human in there to sever the link, just enough eldar to tame psionics

>>51869581
Better. Use boiling water

>>51869751
>intentionally ignoring the fact they are enslaved and demeaned

>>51869751
>Not afraid of tits

Savages.

Sigmarines are good?