Chronological Magic

Well I could do that on Xmage, I just cant promise to stick to precise days

>>51851452
You're going to play with rules from those sets too right? Or are you some kind of casual who doesn't want to bring the Batch back for a few more games?

>>51852046
It'd have to be cockatrice, sorry mate.

>>51852122
I didn't plan on it, unless those rule changes are explicitly mentioned on the cards and doable over the course of a game of sealed.

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I have weeks planned out to fourth edition.

>>51852122
I should note that the main barrier for not using set-specific rule guidelines is that I'm not sure if good scans of those set rulebooks exist beyond Alpha.

Bump out of interest.

>>51852706
For such a popular game it's really a shame that there's not that much documentation of the early days.

Hell, I absolutely love learning about old archaic things in games, looking at what they offered and why they're not there anymore.

>>51852903
Same here, which is the main reason I'd like to get a chronological series of games going.

>>51852122
Remind me how the Batch worked?

>>51852975
It was an early prototype for the stack, but some cards (like interrupts) were resolved first.

OP, I hope you find someone!

One more bump.

>>51851452
What set do you plan on doing this to?

>>51854460
Good question. Probably up to Origins or something. I'm not in any rush to get it over with. We can go as far or as the other person would like.

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Remember that time Spider-Man had an Invasion poster?

>>51855056
Very interesting. Old school Magic really captures the zeitgeist of the late 90's/early 2000's.

>>51851452
What do you mean by a 'reset'?

>>51855361
Just that, once we reach a new core set, we'll do a full sealed game of just that sick and then restart on the expansions.

Xmage would be a much better program to do this type of thing on.

>>51855747
Why is that? How does it differ from Cockatrice?

>>51855774
You can play actual drafts on xmage with friends/computers. You may be able to play limited sealed on it as well. Its worth looking into, it changed my life.

>>51852975

Batch worked like such: players responded to stuff like they do now, but when the last guy stops responding, all spells and abilities on stack resolve in one go without anybody being able to add anything to the pile until it was empty. Countering spells didn't use the batch, instead everything that targeted spells had the card type Interrupt, and could only be responded to by other Interrupts. Damage prevention effects had a special timing slot entirely for them, and targeted the actual damage points when cast (!). This meant that you couldn't cast them pre-emptively, something had to actually be damaged. Creatures and players didn't die immediately when they had lethal damage on them, instead they only died when the batch was empty, so you couldn't stop a Giant Growth with a Lightning Bolt. Players only died if they were at zero life at the end of a phase, meaning if they could scrape themselves back to positive life before then, they survived.

Other stuff of note: if a blocking creature was tapped for any reason, it dealt no damage in combat. Artifacts that were tapped for any reason lost all their abilities until they were untapped (and don't ask me how the fuck Mana Vault worked under that rule), but only if they were noncreature artifacts.

>>51855843

Also, mana burn was a thing.

Mulligans were much more strict. You could only mulligan if you had all lands or no lands, or if your opponent mulliganed. Your second hand had the full seven cards.

>>51855815
Alright, let me check it out. I'm down to change clients.

One cool thing, I don't remember if it was a rule or just a recommendation, was that you could actually take back your plays if neither you nor your opponent did anything in between. That would be a nightmare in a modern-day cutthroat tournament setting but the game was originally designed for kitchen tables, not tryharding.

>>51855843
Not that anon, but I'd like to thank you for this explanation.

>>51855843
I think only mono artifacts lost their abilities when tapped. I think you also had to tap them to use them. Poly artifacts were the opposite.

>>51855912
>>51855815
Not a huge fan of the interface. Setting up sealed is as simple as going to dr4ft and uploading the .dec to Cokatrice.

Anyone here interested?

>>51856035

No, originally it applied to continuous artifacts, but when Revised edition removed the Mono, Poly and Continuous subtypes from the game, it started applying to every artifact that wasn't an artifact creature.

>>51856236
i am very sorry to say no, very nice initiative, but i prefer looking at cards to playing when i feel like discovering old magic.

>>51856409
Alright.

This sounds cool. If I'm free when it comes up I'll join but that's only if you remember to make threads ahead of time every week, I'm not going to look for this off of tg.

>>51856446
Just give me your Cockatrice nick and we can communicate there.

>>51856446
making a thread for an appointment for two poeple only sounds like a very shit idea, maybe a thread with your experiences would be nice, but you two would better schedule in a private manner.

>>51856446
Bump.

>>51855774
people don't get mad at you for not shuffling after searching your deck.

>>51851452
My username is Muaddib

>>51858546
Added you. Will try to catch you online. Let me know if you see this post, and stick around.

>>51855906
Also you could go below 0 life and still live, at least until the end of turn, at which point you would die.

>>51852903
I played back in Revised. Ask me anything.

We used to put our lands in front of our creatures. Now, it looks like they play the lands behind the creatures.

>>51859284

That's odd, I did most of my playing not that long afterwards (around Ice Age), and we usually put the lands off to the right side, in a vertical row, with creatures, enchantments, artifacts, other permanents in rows to the left. Enchantments were usually the front, then creatures, then artifacts, but this was hardly universal.

>>51855843
I like the idea that tapped blockers deal no damage.

>>51856236
>>51851452
Alright, I'm interested. Have been playing Magic for about 1,5 years now, mostly limited. Not a "fantastic player", but would like to become one someday, so this sounds like a nice idea to improve. I love Cockatrice, my name there is rumowl (vps.poixen.com 4747). I must warn though that building up the plays schedule can be difficult with me because I'm pretty sure we are in different timezones and I sometimes get pretty busy irl on top of that.