Pathfinder General - /pfg/

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/pfg/ is just unrecognizable from /5eg/ without the anime girls.

>>51848279
Not fought in the pits yet, no.

But my character and the Fighter of the party have a plan to enter him into some pit fights with my character as his manager. And by 'manager' I mean 'sits in the audience and helps him out with his ranged, vocal-based aid-anothers which give +5 rather than +2

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>>51848290
Give it time. They will come.

>>51848314
Now thats a real adventuring party!

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>>51848312
Is the manager a Bard, Skald, or someone with Golden Lion boosts?

>>51848330
The Rogue isn't necessary since the Barbarian can spring the traps, and either him or the Mage can be the face.

In the last Gestalt game I ran, we had a Fighter/Monk, a Druid/Rogue, and an Oracle/Wizard. This was when the APG came out.

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Have you ever played the Moonscar?

>>51848372
None, actually.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/cavalier/archetypes/rite-publishing---cavalier-archetypes/inspiring-commander/

Inspiring Commanders can Aid Another at a distance with a DC 15 Oratory instead of whatever fucking skill it is, AND add their Int to the bonus they provide. So it doesn't matter if the rogue is trying to pick a lock, or the wizard is deducing the mysteries of the fucking cosmos, my lad has some useful insight. Somehow.

And in the fights it'll mostly be the typical manager fare of encouragement/'on your left' sort of stuff.

I canned the bard stuff in exchange for access to tech things, incidentally. We already had a bard.

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>>51848399
>Planetary in Golarion
So PFS as Planetary? Or would it be an independent thing?

>>51848407
Sorry, DC 10, not 15.

He's just that damn helpful. He can help with almost anything.

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>>51848407
>>51848425
It sounds like you can have a lot of fun in character with that.

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>>51848279
They mostly regulate her to the matches. Before the main event. You know, the gimmicky matches to get the crowd riled up.

>>51848441
It's been fun!

There's some kind of subtle implication that something mysterious is helping him out in some way, making him able to do that, and helping him make scifi shit in Standard Fantasy Setting Land.

I have NO FUCKING CLUE what it is. Gonna find out eventually though.

Someday I want to play a Chaotic Evil character in a campaign that's not evil, someday.

>>51848492
Why?

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>>51848471
Are you using the gladiator combat rules from Ultimate Combat?

>>51848477
Is the character a gnome?

>>51848471
Like when they execute prisoners in horribly mismatched fights? Ehh they're alright. The actual fighters better have some artistry in their kills.

>>51848524
Nah, he's a 34 year old human.

He hits middle-aged within the year.

>>51848511
The challenge of playing a Chaotic Evil character well without muddying the alignment or compromising the group. The novelty of having the least common alignment available.

Also because I grew up on 8-Bit Theatre and OOTS.

>>51848524
>>51848524
Not really no, its more about gimmicky scenarios. Like on planks above the lion pit.

I've only used victory points in a one off mud wrestling match. Less killy, more crowd excity

>>51848547
Simple, you might be the most high of assoles, but the party is comprised of very dear friends.

Even evil has loved ones.

>>51848372
Most certainly not.
That's a cover from 2nd edition. Back then the barbarian was just a fighter who can't afford an armor yet, the rogue levelled at like twice the speed of everybody else, and the wizard OWED EVERYTHING to you for having carried him from like 1 to 6 before he finally started making himself useful more than once a day.

And only you could go over 18 strength.

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>>51848600
How far we've come.

>>51848314
What the fuck happened to that left arm?

>>51848524
Where the dueling rules any good?

>>51848290
5e is actually a good system though.

Incidentally, when is Starfinder coming out?

I have really shitty luck. I've been trying to find a class that is misfortune resistant and rather fittingly, Malefactor seems to be what I'm looking for. Does anyone have any stories or suggestions about it?

>>51848745
bad fapping angle.

>>51848471
What's her build? The girl in the pic I mean

>>51848885
T H I C C

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Don't mind me, just posting some images here.

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>>51848938

>>51848471

That woman's bust could be three cups smaller and she'd still be considered absolutely stacked.

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>>51848954
Most gladiators were heavyset. Helped with injuries. They probably only put her in for sex appeal.

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>>51848976

I'm going to be running a new game. Here are my rules:

>20 point buy, but nothing above 18 or below 7 after racial mods.
>No classes are banned, but talk to me first if you want to play a gunslinger, summoner, or prepared 9th level caster.
>Use the unchained classes when possible.
>No leadership feat.
>Blood money cost is a cost, and must be paid by you. no way to get out of it.
>Sacred geometry never existed.
>Simulacrum never existed.

Thoughts?

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>>51849001

>>51848967

Just saying I've only seen that kinda build on black or Slavic women who've spent the last twenty years having kids, tits don't normally get that huge.

Maybe it's her hobby once the kids left the nest? That sounds like a character concept, the woman who spent her life being a mother since 16, and now that she's 36 decided to take a trip around Avistan and see the sights?

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>>51849009

>>51848991

Make it 25 PB and I might apply!

I mean, 20 PB is alright, but the concept better be stellar.

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>>51849014
> mother of 10 with an empty nest lives out her dreams as a gladiatrix prize fighter
FUND IT!

>>51849009

>Crystalhurst

Molthune and Nirmathas confirmed for German.

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>>51849026
>I might apply
Do you live in the SLC, UT area?

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>>51848938
>Resper Cyrno

Is she the strongest despite her age?

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>>51849074

>It's in-person

Oh, sorry! Thought it was Roll20.

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>>51849092

>>51849094
No problem. I prefer to run in-person games.

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>>51848984
>>51848930

I'm loving this dump, anon. Thank you!

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>>51849092
>sending only a hundred soldiers to clear an entire forest of powerful fey

What are they, retarded?

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>>51849042

It's as easy as making it yourself, anon.

Heck, why not make one for Taldor Ascendant? Imagine it - the war between Taldor and Qadira, the woman could be a mighty soldier who fought in Sothis and helped bring about victory.

But that was 12 years ago. Since then she's settled in the recently annexed Zimar Province and started having kids with her beloved (either she met him before the war, or during.) Now war is stirring once more, and the Emperor himself picks her to protect a dignitary that might turn the fortunes of the coming conflict in Taldor's favor.

She not only fights for Taldor, but for the family and loved ones she holds so dear. The breastplate might not fit like it used to, but she'll make do!

>>51849144
If those soldiers are level 10 unchained monks with improved grapple and abundant step the fey are FUCKED.

>>51849167
>Well kids, how do I look?
>uhh... mom?
>you probably should wear something a bit more...
>MOMMY LOOKS LIKE AN OGRE!
>... I didn't say it it was her

>>51849167
I would, but im already in 2 pfg games. Id be a poor sport indeed to apply

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>>51849205
Isn't this just a reskinning of the shitty Hell's Rebels rebellion rules?

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>>51849233
It totally IS just a reskinning of the shitty Hell's Rebels rebellion rules.

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>>51849260

>>51849262
Why must you post creepy Japanese cartoon images?

Aren't there better images that can convey your emotions more effectively?

Legitimately curious.

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>>51849203

>Her husband is meanwhile speechless, and asks her why she doesn't bring out the outfit every anniversary

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>>51849297
And that's that. Since Heroes of the High Court and Psychic Anthology were shared already I won't do those. I'll see you next month when I post the entirety of Ironfang Invasion book 1 as a PDF, though the question is where to upload it.

>>51849204

Oh, hogwash! If the concept clicks it deserves to be created. Precious few already are applying to the game, you might as well start the meme train by applying.

Maybe even duo app with someone else as the husband, power couple GO.

>>51849297

>Forest Guardians
>Human
>Uses a picture of a redheaded Halfling

Liar! Liar!

>>51849247

That's one of the suavest, beardiest men Paizo's ever penned to paper.

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>>51849280
Why do you care so much? It's a fucking image. Don't like it? Ignore it.

>>51848414
I could see a clan of elan, immortal, unaging, working hard to experience everything and keep the world interesting.

They build dungeons, create strange artifacts and hide them, set up tyrannies to be toppled, and release ancient evils into the world, not out of malice, but top prevent boredom and make sure adventurers don't actually cause more trouble than they need to.

>>51849431
There are like twenty of those images in every thread, and I have complained once.

also:
>why are you doing bad thing?
>LOL chill out don't get upset dude...

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>>51849324
There's also the issue of scheduling.

Granted it certainly was a shame I had to choose between Onryou an Amalthea.

>>51849320

Thanks for posting it. Even if I'll admit it's not a book with a whole heap of new stuff.

>>51849203
>>51849292

She married her husband, who was a soldier. She was gladiator, Typically put in th "sexy girl on girl" matches that were just as brutal, but still titillating

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So what does everyone think of DHB being officially a 3p dev now? Any of you check out their book? They have a real name now too.

>>51849598
can you stop being weird?

>>51849628
I think that they should abandon ship, and find a career that actually has a chance of being fulfilling and paying a living wage.

>>51849628
Despite everything, I'm proud of them.

Well done, DHB.

I hope that class got enough playtesting though.

>>51849628
No, his work isn't particularly fun? I'm sure it's fine, but it reads like a 2hu post.

>>51849660
Nothing weird about it. Whenever women are gladiators in Rome that's the kind of matches the fought in, often topless

>>51849681
>making up history

>>51849674
Why is "a 2hu post" an insult?

>>51849725
Because it's sterile, wordy and lacks any sort of soul. It's like reading something out of 4e.

>>51849628
>>51849674
I remember a few months ago DHB's unchained fighter was the hottest thing that was recommended to anyone who wanted to play a good fighter and even as a more reasonable alternative to PoW.

Now I haven't seen it get mentioned for ages.
What happened?

>>51849725
Because it is long and uses big words, which makes idiots feel bad because they don't like realizing how bad they are at English.

>>51849753
The first part of your post never happened?

>>51849598
I don't think you understand what having 10 kids and not fighting for over a decade does to people with those metabolisms.

Lemme put it this way.

The voracious hunger, that sticks around. That doesn't go away.

But your 5000 calories a day murderfucking festival? THAT part you've just left behind.

I'm sure she thought it was just pregnancy weight the first nine times...

>>51849722
Look it up

>>51849746

See, you say that but 4e had some of my favourite examples ever of fluff as rules.

Like the various summons. Demons were the best summons rules-wise (Best effects, biggest numbers) but they had the worst instinctive actions (What they do when not being directly commanded on your turn) with many of them being negative or just very friendly-fire prone.

So it created a fun dynamic with demons as a summon where you were playing with fire as being unable to control them (Say, by getting stunned for a turn) could lead to them running amok as the leash gets loose.

>>51849792
Ok, but have you read 4e? The rules text reads like someone has had a lobotomy at some point in your life.

>>51849775
She used to be considered LITHE back in the day

>>51849792
>4th edition had the best made up rules, especially the parts where they don't actually even have rules, and just suggestions on how things might work maybe.

>>51849837
No anon, that's 5e.

>>51849280
>Aren't there better images that can convey your emotions more effectively?
Not really. I mean, have you seen Western Animation, and the current crop of actors? They're both shit. Anime literally shows emotion better than Hollywood.

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>>51849792
Good morning, /pfg/! Tell me stories about why your PCs started adventuring!

>>51849845
Oh shit you were right. My bad.

>>51849847
Adding to this. Western animation is kinda bad and a lot of people here have literal autism and can't really understand real-life faces and subtle emotions. Anime is like "reading emotions from humans: easy mode" and really helpful.

>>51849500

Then I guess it was just not meant to be! Or maybe it is, if you think you'd be able to put a modified Amalthea into the campaign.

>>51849868

It's also why furries and Sonic are so popular among autistics, because cartoon animals aren't daunting like humanfolk and the facial expressions are super obvious.

>>51849831
And now she isn't.

>>51849827
Actually, the rules text in 4e reads exactly like an instruction manual.

I know, because I write them for a living.

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>>51849827

Yes? I have. How would I be commenting on the rules for summon powers if I hadn't read it?

>>51849837

Made up? Pic Related.

>>51849898
>>51849920

I'm sorry anon, getting lobotomized must suck, I can't relate to that experience.

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>>51849897
I figure she should fit in just fine as an npc in Dragon game

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>>51849856
Her dad threw her and her mom out when he found out she was a tiefling!
Her mom and stepdad threw her out when they found out she was studying arcane magic!
The magic school threw her out when she ran out of money!
The adventuring party she spent years making into her NEW family threw her out when they found out she was a tiefling!

The next adventurers she saw, including the next person who said a single kind word to her, she clings to like a possum and won't let them out of her sight. Surely these ones will never find out she's a tiefling!

>>51849960
Think I'm the only one in the party that isn't into fat girls. It's odd.

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Speaking of people who've done their first (solo) book, Onxy Tanuki released their first book my themselves.

>>51850010
It's sad to consider that the saddest backstory I've seen all year is actually Megumin's....

>>51850010
>including the next person who said a single kind word to her, she clings to like a possum and won't let them out of her sight

This would be even cuter if she was tiny and had an energetic, desperate puppy-like personality!

>>51850045

Well I mean, >>51849500 isn't exactly fat, it's just absurdly curvy - more of the classic use of the term, that's some idealized Medieval fertility figure stuff right there. You might consider it overweight, but to a man in 1300 they'd be dreaming of having that in bed.

>>51850068
Well, >>51849500 is okay. Still hot.
More like nowadays anytime someone says "curvy" the low-end of their range actually starts instead at "kirby"

>>51850065
Literally who?

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>>51850065
Megumin graduated from her school - she's just been rejected by all the other adventuring parties. Not abandoned for being a part-human or anything.

>>51850129
She also literally had to steal food because she was too poor to feed herself and her sister.

>>51850129
>had to steal breadcrumbs to survive
>her chest is very hereditary
>ran out of "the edible grass" around her home
>in love with lalatina's ideal man
>other rivals for her affection include literally a goddess and the kingdom's young princess
>crimson demons do in fact have a reputation outside their village
>is in the same party as Aqua

>The normal player gives a short backstory, or sometimes none at all
>The bad player gives you a giant backstory you can hardly be assed to read through
>The good player gives you a giant backstory you can hardly be assed to read through and then posts a TL;DR version

>>51850106
>>51850068

I think the fat comment refers more to this>>51848471


Also I hope were not overbearing with our preferences. If you need us to tone it. Down, let us know man.

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>>51850120

A character from Konosuba, she's a Chuuni born to be bullied.

Speaking of words that start with the letter B, I've found some fantastic art of a Knightly woman that is *probably* from Brevoy considering the heraldry is identical!

>>51850181

Megumin's fiiiiine, she's got the greatest power in all the world on her side.

Author preference.

>>51850181
I'm just saying it's not that similar apart from being a desperate mage, not that Megumin's better-off.

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>>51850200
the author's preference is for her characters to suffer.

>>51850129
I actually started watching animu again(this one to be specific), what happened to her sister anyway? She was mentioned one episode then never seen again.

>>51850240
She's in the Megumin spinoff series, I assume she's been staying with someone else in the Crimson Demon village while Megumin is off adventuring. The confusing part is why they never introduced the familiar cat in the series.

>>51850068
She's already cute, and short but still Medium. Her desperation makes her energetic. Whenever they stop, she is always slowly inches her way into being too close for comfort among other party members. They inch away. Or recoil in surprise if she's successful at Stealth and they find she's suddenly clinging to their side out of nowhere.

Truthfully this character would be a lot less cute if it were a boy.

>>51850186
>she's a Chuuni born to be bullied
RIP Chuunirat

>>51848471
Bardic Performanc: (Performance Combat)

Would you allow it?

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>>51849856
It started as a simple gig to keep watch over a goods shipment. Turns out we were escorting a terrorist to court and the 'shipment' was a cover so he wouldn't get murderfied before his trial. Shit just kinda spiraled out of control from there.

>>51850433
No. The only weird Perform at my table is Perform (Sex).

>>51849856
Because my lady was bored and thought it would be funny to send a human to fight giants so I was honor bound to oblige.

>>51850495
>He doesn't allow Perform: Theremin

>>51850519
Music devices aren't weird Performs anon.

>>51850316
Oh, she has her own series huh. I guess thats where the trap catboy makes its appearance.

>>51850526
They are when it's a weird musical device.

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>>51850495
>Perform (sexual techniques)

>be bard (rubato) with Martial Tradition and Unorthodox Method for Scarlet Throne and Silver Crane

>use Perform (sexual techniques) for Perception, Sense Motive, and Spellcraft

How would you explain it?

>>51850527
>I guess thats where the trap catboy makes its appearance.

Nah, that's Re:Zero

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>>51850358

Her desperate flailing for attention is adorable, and very sad!

How Tiefling is she, anyway? You mention she can pass for human up until she gets close to people, is it something related to her behavior?

>>51850548

Perception and Sense Motive are easily explained - you can perceive and sense when a partner wants to go harder or maybe change positions, how is the battlefield any different than a bed?

Spellcraft's a bit tougher.

>>51850585
>>51850548
>>51850495
Can we stop?

>>51850585
Tantric magic.

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>>51850585
What about Stealth from Veiled Moon?

>>51850053
Oh shit, witches; my favorite T1 caster! Don't suppose there was a playtest to look through before, or perhaps a dump someone's willing to do?

>>51850200
Yeah! The author has admitted that Megumin's her self-insert!
She's also admitted to being a MASSIVE masochist that enjoys seeing Megumin suffer emotionally!

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>>51850616

When your lover already has a lover, or they're stuck at home.

Or they don't want to be seen with you because you're the wrong race/class.

>>51850616
Do you not fuck with the lights off?

>>51850559
She has Pass for Human, so it's fairly simple.

I wrote it so her eyes go black all over when she casts from her highest level slots, and she has the Soul Seer racial ability so she can always identify living, dying, dead, undead and constructs, which is useful but might give her away a little if she tells the party. She also noticably resists energy.

I think overall it will take plot or a character mistake to truly reveal her unless she has to lie directly about being normal and fails a Bluff. Narratively the other players and I sort of cooperate to push each others' stories along.

>>51850720
>Narratively the other players and I sort of cooperate to push each others' stories along.

Good man, that's something all too uncommon in games (at least around here) and something I try and do myself.

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>>51850436
I want to see Elsbeth and Onryou in silly print pajamas on a couch, eating ice cream sandwiches.

>>51850743
I fucking hate those balding hairstyles with low foreheads
they look like neanderthal clowns

>>51849831
>>51849775

So she retrained all her dex into con. Got it.

>>51850784
The hell are you on about?

>>51850646
Yea I've seen like three episodes and the series is way to PG to include any significant emotional pain or suffering.

>oh no I don't have boobs
no one gives a shit you non-raped, living family, well fed, un-enslaved, fully-abled whiny bitch. Some people have actual problems.

>>51850720
>>51850741
I'm jelly man, I had a PC I loved in a Curse of the Crimson Throne a while back who had a similar shtick except he was a Vishkanya that was left baby-in-a-basket style at the doorstep of his adoptive half-orc father's house. He had the idea drilled into his head from a young age that he needs to do everything he can to pass as human, to the point where it really kind of made him a little fucked up in the head.

I was looking forward to confronting and resolving his personal issues over the course of the campaign but then it fell apart about five sessions in.

>>51850828
I think lighthearted shows are just not for you if you can't stand characters having non-GRRM problems.

>>51850800
read my post and you'll find out

it's written clear as day

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>>51848471

I want to play a game as a person who wants to be a gladiator, but is horribly under-qualified.

>>51850828
I agree, fuck that privileged cunt. She should only be spoken of as suffering if she was a POC passed around from abusive slave owner to abusive slave owner, each of which has heavily implied to have raped her, and the only time she willingly had sex was for food. This is a well rounded character.

>>51850894
That's what an eldritch knight build is before its concept is allowed by the game to start working.

>>51850784
Since you're the first person to step out of line and criticize Elsbeth I'll share my opinion. This is just my personal opinion and I'm sure it's not a popular one:

Everything about Elsbeth's design and proportions turns me off. Her massive cow tits, misshapen legs, ridiculous ears, tiny hands and feet. I can't tell if she is supposed to be a fat elf or a gnome. She looks like a caricature. I cringe every time I see her. Just not my cup of tea.

>>51850828

Oh golly miss Molly you're whipping out the Oppression Olympics.

Don't you have an art convention to visit?

>>51850894

How can you be horribly under-qualified to be a Gladiator? Just make a Warlord and maybe take the Performance Weapon Mastery feat.

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>>51850800
I 'unno, anon. >>51850875 is right. Pretty damn clear. And honestly I don't care for how that image came out anyway; too forced and everything is out of place.

>>51850952
Whatever floats your goat, anon. And you're not wrong. He;;, been trying to get back into making some shit again and it's been impacting the rate I've been working on commission stuff. Too much shit to fix, but it's gotta get fixed.

>tfw none of the pfg games worked out for me
>got kicked from another start up for telling the DM to actually read avowed before rejecting it for being too magical
>Had to drop from another potential because the DM couldnt describe the conflict no matter how much I tried to work with him
>and my pbp collapsed because one guy poofed on us and then another dropped for unspecified annoyance
I swear its not me

>>51851031

Anon, did you happen to kill any large seabirds recently?

>>51850952
Not him, or Elsbeth's person either, but I don't think you're the first person to criticize the art style. I remember when she was first getting posted in /pfg/ and for a long while we'd occasionally have people complaining about it. Personally, the ears are the only thing that really bother me, but I think they match with the rest of the style being used by the artist so that's okay. I feel like a caricature of exaggerated proportions is what the artist is generally aiming for in their style.

>>51851031
Go get a Remove Curse or Break Enchantment spell, Anon.

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>>51851031
>rejecting it for being too magical
>but that GM likely allows wizards

what the fuck

>>51851106
He banned full casters, didnt know what tier 1 was, and then read anotger players divine octopus homebrew but wouldnt read avowed

>>51851130
>divine octopus homebrew

The fuck? Did he at least ban summoner too? Actually, do you have a full list of stuff he banned? I need a good laugh

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>>51851010

I wouldn't beat yourself too much, however you might be onto something with it felling forced. It looks less like a contest of wills and boobs and more like posing for a picture.

Maybe if they were facing each other a bit more, and there was more squish. More like a mash rather than a docking.

I don't see too much issue with hairlines

>>51851165
It was literally just full casters and no PoW. I was the one to tell him what tier 1 meant

>>51851206
>bans fullcasters and PoW
>doesn't ban summoners

10/10 genius GMing

>>51849628
Has anyone played DHB's UC gunslinger? Is it any good?

>>51850866
>>51850908
>>51850968
I should tone it down. Ever since I was deployed I get irrationally fucking angry whenever some little bitch pulls the "woe is me" routine. People don't understand how bad it can be.

>>51850894
I want to play as a gladiator mother to a woman who wants to be a gladiator, but is horribly under-qualified to be one.

>>51851654
>I should tone it down.
Yeah you should you're being an asshat.

>>51851666
I can see her trying to bulk up to her mother's size only to find out through some old promotional materials that she was much slimmer

>>51849856
To meet hot babes, and maybe marry one!

>>51849856
To get revenge

>>51849628
Hopefully he'll finally fuck off. God damn I can not stand him.

>we have DHB's real name now
Oh man it's time to fuck with him

>>51851860
>Zachary
How very fitting for an autist

>>51851860
Why is it that theres always a witch hunt in these threads? I thought PoW shitposting was bad but man this is beyond petty.

>>51849628

That is the most autistic name i have ever seen

How the fuck do you screw up Zachary?

>>51848991
I sure do hope you're not implying Gunslingers are on the same level as Summoners, let alone Wizards.

>>51851919
>>51851888
>>51851860
>implying that's not a pseudonym.
I guarantee his name is something boring like John. Only people with boring names choose outlandish sounding names as their pseudonym.

>>51851938
different anon, but gunslinger (and guns in general) is a retardedly feast-or-famine class. Either it actually has the tools to work properly and demolishes encounters, or it doesn't and it does next to nothing. All the while it gets fuckall to do outside of "use gun good".

>>51851860
How do you know it's not a pen name? Do you really think Jolly's actual name is N(something) Jolly? Or Forrest? Are you retarded?

>>51849753

Well, it's taken literally years, but 1pp fighter actually has some okay options now.

You know what's an idea for the SoM devs when they do the gish book? Remake Kensai so it's entirely spheres, and give it stuff that doesn't feel totally useless.

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>>51851991
It'd be cooler if it was.

>>51852054
I'll bring that up, see what we can do.

>>51851904
Because it's one asshat that doesn't know how to be sane. Two if you include the NOW GOING ON TEN YEARS faggot that hates 2hu.

>>51852121
Or maybe we're all the insane ones, and he's the only sane anon! Ever considered that, chucko?

>>51852136
Stop puffing yourself up like you're important, anon.

>>51852136

I haven't; permit me to do so.

I've done so. It's patently ridiculous.

>>51849628
It's been a long and odd journey. I'm just thankful for all the help I've gotten from this general over the development of the Unshackled Martials. Hopefully this first leg of its publication goes well and Purple Duck Games sees fit to publish the Unchained Cavalier as well. It's been a great experience and this general has given me tons of help and feedback. I can't be thankful enough.

>>51851468
So to speak to this what I always preface the Unchained Gunslinger with is that it ended up being much more of a gadgeteer than the original gunslinger. If you are looking for more of a cowboy quickdraw experience the archetype named The Motley Gunman gets rid of the contraptions in favor of a cloak of many colors and a pseudo dual-identity of the gunslinger and the stranger. It has a cloak of many colors, based on the cloth of the cloak you choose you receive a number of power and patches.

The base unchained gunslinger instead has items such as glasses to detect magic, a whirly bird backpack, triggered bombs, etc. Contraptions were supposed to bring a lot of utility in the class. The Motely Gunslinger also has utility but it is more focused.

The other two archetypes are both alchemy based, one giving you a construct animal companion and the other 4 level extract casting and a mutagen. These are the Construct Tinkerer and the Bootleg Alchemist.

My personal favorite style a Unchained Gunslinger can take Coal Cloak of Many Colors Motley Gunman.


>>51851919
>>51851888
It was actually supposed to be Zachary. Somehow when I was doing my checks I messed up and didn't realize it had an E in it, once I did realize it was too late. Ah well, I suppose my pseudonym has an E in it now.

>>51852154
But no one else puffs me up.

>>51852160
It's important to see all situations from as many angles as possible.

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>>51852106
Well that was fast, I expected that to get ignored in the slurry of shitposting that usually fills the thread. Hell, only reason I thought of it was because I was sitting here trying to remember what I wanted to bug the anon who posted an Unchained Magus teaser about something.
I want to be excited for SoM, I REALLY WANT TO BE EXCITED, but I'm so used to disappointment that I can't be excited. I still look forward to the playtest, and seeing what the gish stuff looks like, though. Maybe it'll be worth converting one of my characters to in the future.

>>51852183

A valid point. However, some angles are patently ridiculous.

>>51852162
So you're not gonna thank Jolly, who actually introduced you to PDG?

>>51852200
>yfw DHB thanks Jolly. In person. With his mouth. Once a week.

>>51852162
Congrats, DHB! Hope it does well!

>>51852200
No that is extremely true. Without Jolly I wouldn't have been able to get the foot in the door I have. He is really committed to helping out new 3pp developed and had been able to deal with me pestering him for advice on occasion. He is the single biggest reason I managed to get it published. I'm thankful for the in he's given me.

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>>51852287
No problem, you and Onyx both dropped on the same day. I also just helped a plucky young editor get their foot in the door with a publisher friend of mine. It's been a rewarding few weeks.

You boys might want to look at the new WotR app, I think you'll like it.

>>51852502
Link, please? I can't navigate the Roll20 site for shite.

>>51852502
I just did.
What the fuck is this shit.

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>>51852502
Yo like...what?

>mfw this guy gets in

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>>51852523
Normals.

>>51852502
What the fucking fuck

>>51852515
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4509994/post-characters-here#post-4676090

No doubt a sure-in entry.

>"you over spoiled snowflake trophy given cross dresser fancy pant ivory tower loser wizard piece of shit."
I'm gonna use this one day. I just know it.

>>51852539
There's too many 4chan in-jokes in there to be a normie. This dude's just trolling us.

>>51852502
>belief to be a fish
I like it.

>>51852502
>natural attack sorcerer not left blank across the board because they don't exist

>>51852502
>>51852543
Can someone explain what the fuck I'm looking at here?

>>51852591
Constant desire to fornicate with animals.

>>51852620
The guy that will probably be chosen over DHB.

>>51852372
>>51852287
Why do we shit on DHB but love Jolly?

>>51852642
Love is a fickle thing.

Also DHB put themselves out there more

>>51852641
That doesn't answer anything fuckface, what the FUCK was posted?

>Takes legendary item(darlene)
>It begins replying to him and bullying the other party members

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If a tiefling or aasimar (or genie-kin for that matter) has children with a human, what's the percentage chance that their offspring will inherit their outsider traits?

Would it be like half-and-half chances, or more like a low but constantly present danger?

>>51852654
What seems to be the D&D/PF equivalent of a Fish-Malk.

>>51852642
Jolly makes better content, is more established, shows a willingness to listen, is willing to admit being wrong (which is fucking huge), and loves punch girls. Plus he's shown he's willing to help others get into freelancing, which is pretty awesome of him.

>>51852691
100% chance because otherwise the plot point would've never come up.

>>51852691
>what's the percentage chance that their offspring will inherit their outsider traits?

Mengkare canonically mates Aasimar with Humans to "breed in" disease resistance and good looks, Tiefling and Aasimar traits absolutely breed true.

>>51852714
>shows a willingness to listen, is willing to admit being wrong
Except DHB does both of these things? I mean he doesn't bend over backwards whenever someone says 'I don't like thing', but he doesn't just refuse to change anything. He always at least responds to comments on his docs I know because I've made comments and he's changed things based on them.

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>>51852502
>Reasons for these creations can be explained by the use of the wizard motto “Because We Can” and be done with it, but in fact there are reasons for this, particular concerning all sort of military applications.

>>51852543
I really want this guy to get in just so he can fuck with rath, lucius and the bbegs that take themselves too seriously.

>>51852752
You gotta remember. The thread has no issues with DHB. It's just one very loud, very austic anon who can only get it up when he's bad mouthing DHB.

>>51849167
>>51849042
>>51849014

This should be a thing. Why isn't this a thing?

>>51852716
True, but only in-game would it more depend on what's dramatic.

In lore, it's more like spinning a wheel than rolling a die--you can have no tieflings for three generations, then all your kids are tieflings. You can have one tiefling with human siblings. You can have two tieflings having a human baby. And not all of that even relies on genetics.

>>51852798
Hello C2, nice to have you in the thread no it isn't

>>51852820
/pfg/ has on several occasions turned into massive shitposting orgies due to DHB.

>>51852852
>>51852852
And due to 2hu. And due to a new book coming out. And due to it raining. And due to the sun coming up in the morning.
So what's your point?

>>51852848
>Calling samefag because people respond positively to a new app
Just because nobody gave a shit about your app doesnt mean people who like the others are samefagging.

>>51852852
that's because some people made it a crusade to shitpost about a homebrewer who's too dense to not reply, because he just wants feedback.

>>51852515
On the topic of new apps, it looks like Leila Black is dead and replaced. Shame, her and Amadeus were my favorites but both are gone.

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>>51852863

You know what's perfect for rainy days?

Hot soup served in fresh-baked rolls.

So how's everyone feeling about their or other people's WotR apps? 26th is coming up fast!

>>51852927
What about when it's hailing?

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>>51852824

The reasons are two-fold.

For starters, people tend to play twenty somethings, not characters well into their thirties. This is especially true for women. More importantly, people aren't all too keen on saying their character has had children, especially multiple children over the course of two decades. It makes the woman seem "used" in a way being a slut can't even begin to touch - not only has the woman had sex, and not only has she had a *lot* of sex, but she's too old to start a new family and she's probably still in love with the man that gave her a lifetime of little feet pitter-pattering on wooden floorboards.

Find a player that is willing to play such a character and I will love them forever, but for now being the motherly older woman in a TTRPG is anathema.

>>51852932
I can't fucking choose a name to actually submit mine aahhhhhh

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>>51852947

Quick! Tell us the character's classes, personality, country of origin and brief bio!

>>51852932
Im satisfied with mine knowing that even if I dont get picked for this one, I can easily copy paste him for the next WotR campaign that will eventually pop up.

>>51852940
>people tend to play twenty somethings
Man, I'd play older characters, but age rules. Mid 20s is just safe, protects you from time skips and shit.

>>51852947
Name them Zachery

>>51852932
I made a few revisions to mine, kinda pleased with it and with the revisions most others did. Feels like it's gonna be a closer contest now.

>>51852970

Most DMs don't care if you do or don't follow the age rules, just ask and you'll probably get the green light!

>>51852932
I'm hoping I can get in, but understand completely if I don't meet the GM's criteria!

>>51852932
My list of characters I hope gets in doesn't include my own, building a character and an app is always more fun than actually playing a game.

>>51852960
I haven't written much of the bio because I hate putting in PLACEHOLDER for when I think of a name later. I do know that they'll be from Kenabres itself (Chance Encounter trait), Cryptic as primary class, super high Int and thinking of playing him as annoyingly patient almost autistic. Lawful alignment, feels the fundamental wrongness of the Worldwound, lots of knowledge skills, has determined his unique abilities as a Cryptic may be critical for dealing with the affront to the universal order that is the Worldwound.

>>51852971
>not naming them Doug
Step it up senpai

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>>51853072

>I do know that they'll be from Kenabres itself (Chance Encounter trait)

So you want to play a Cryptic genius with an almost unfathomable mind who wants to close up the blight on creation that is the Worldwound.

You want a name that's steeped in the occult, or at least sounds like it. Something smart, something intelligent.

Here are my ideas.

Alistair, Constantine, Salazar, Grigori.

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I want to play a character who is a member of an obscenely long-lived race who has tried a fuckton of weird shit over the years, because they are constantly bored and want to see the world from new perspectives. While it would be nothing more than a footnote in terms of actual relevance for the most part, this would mean they have successfully been both a father and a mother. Multiple times. To the point that they can't remember what they were originally and just go with what they are in the moment.

How bad of an idea is this.

>>51852932
Build teams /pfg/.

You get two teams, each one has 6 members, four girls and two guys. Traps count as guys for this calculation.

We have 26 applicants with actual sheets:
Mercedes Drovenge
Valki Ommarra
Tianetria Summerglade
Francisca Zilant
Rath Khulainn
Wisteria
Lisa Sterling
Soralis Lyso
Charlotte Renard
Haraa Windspire
Lorelei Aldenwood
Jin Imoji
Fei Xiahou
Zefira al-Eahira
Lucius Maeca Lebeda "Irina"
Artemy Neizvestny Medvyed
Aaliya Al-Amin
Kline
Mimi(Mirinri) Pittich
Brihzwald (Buford)
Seth, Scion of Thassilon, Faithful of Lissala
Uk'Regash Ashenskin
Arme
Caitlin
Solomon Kreet III
Asharat

10 male, 16 female

GO ON! BUILD YOUR TEAMS!

>>51853119

Exceptionally so.

>>51853072
>>51853112

Thought of some others!

Sigmund, Saul, Solomon.

Dude, I got it, Solomon Caine.

>>51853112
>Grigori
Rasputin plz go and stay go

What is your favorite special material?
I have a thing for obsidian, followed by dark wood because I can just imagine that lovely grain with a beautiful finish.

>>51853149
Fire-Forged Steel or Elysian Bronze

>>51853119

That's actually a pretty bad idea, but not for the reasons you might think. Or, actually, exactly the reasons you think.

I love the idea of playing an Elf who's lived, loved and had children with multiple people over the centuries, and is on a "cool-down" while they're with the party. What I don't like about your idea is the character becoming other genders because they're "bored" and want to "try new things."

Boredom is boring.

>>51853149
Voidglass for that cheap +1 to damage. Mithral and Darkwood close seconds, particularly for that no ACP armor and shield.

>>51853149

Elysian Bronze for the reasons >>51853183 probably picked it - gleaming golden armor is gorgeous, and I love Adamantine because it's this rich, jet-black metal that can carve through just about anything.

Hell, I love Darkwood for the same reason, as a man who works with wood I can appreciate the beauty of a well-polished piece of ebony or mahogany.

>>51852940
I play Dads too often. One was a professor of anthropology that went on adventures Indiana Jones style to bring home the bread and presents to his kids and in order to write papers and give first hand accounts of demi human cultures.

Another was an Occultist with no sense of write or wrong obsessed with Thasilon that joined his daughter's party after she started hearing whispers from ghosts telling her to explore the Catacombs of Wrath. He accidentally made his daughter while attempting to woo an elf that got her hands on evidence of sin magics and felt obligated to take care of the girl when his elven lover refused to raise a half breed.

>>51853191
"Boredom" almost feels like a placeholder motivation when related to backstories, since it /is/ a shitty motivation on its own for things. This was less "a character idea" on its own and more "a thing to put into a character background and mold to whatever the main concept was".

Unfortunately, I seem to have forgotten that you can't simply supply a piece of something, because people will assume that's the whole thing.

>>51853214
>Adamantine because it's this rich, jet-black metal

Is it really black? I always pictured it as green.

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>>51853255
Pic related is an adamantine golem.

Will we be getting a leak of the highlights from Black Stars Beckon?

>>51853255
I thought of it as a purplish grey.

>>51853264
Artist interpretation, the description for Adamantine in the Core Rulebook does not state what it looks like.

>>51853149
Inubrix. Make Inubrix arrows/bolts/bullets and shoot through anything iron/steel. Sure you hit like you're 1 size smaller but you ignore iron/steel. The DM tosses their golem being piloted by someone at you, shoot the cockpit and cave in their skull. Shit is expensive, +5,000 for any weapon, +100 for a single thing of ammo (PF prices special material for ammo around (Price of material on weapon / 50) ), but if you want something that, when popped out makes the party open their eyes, and more open to be countered (non metal armor or iron golems), Inubrix is for you.

Inubrix! Make the armor tank shit brix!

Why does Paizo hate Hermea so much?

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>>51853264
>>51853283
Adamantine is very clearly red.

>>51853123
Team 1 - Because I like these guys
Lisa
Charlotte
Rath
Vialla
Tiantria
Lucius

Team 2 - Because I dislike these guys for various reasons and I want to see what happens
Uk'Regash
Kline
Caitlin
Valki
Seth
Aaliya

>>51853264
Personally I always saw Adamantine as a red metal that had a rich sheen to it. And then Mithral in my mind was more bluish/silver.

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>>51851173
I'll figure something out. But I do deeply appreciate any feedback with substance despite how little I may reply on the matter; last time I went to post my shit on places like /vg/ whatever criticism I'd get is
>start over
>kys

So yeah. I love that you guys here on /tg/ actually take the extra minute to articulate what's rubbing the wrong way.

>>51853346
>>51853301
What we do know is that Glaucite, an alloy of Iron and Adamantine also known as Numerian Steel is a dark dull grey.

>>51853343
Explain what you dislike about them.

>Person pitches a really cool idea for a game on a forum
>Go to say 'hey i'm interested'
>Realise they ended their post with 'so does anyone want to run this?'

Why are people so lazy when it comes to GMing?

>>51853380
>Why are people so lazy when it comes to GMing?
Why aren't you running a game senpai?

>>51853380
Because, "Forever a GM" is a thing.

I GMed a game once. ONCE. Ever since then, I have not played in a single game. Oh, but everyone's always slobbering over their own dicks begging me to GM again.

It's a trap. You GM once and then that's all you are. "Hey yo Mistah GM! Wanna Gm a game for me and some bruhs this weekend?"

"Sup GM, what game you got planned for us this weekend?"

"So like, me and Becky heard you like, GM, Dungeons and Spiders and like whatever. Like, would you mind GMing for our sorority this weekend?"

>>51853343
I would trade out Charlotte for Seth, and Team 1 would be good.

>>51853389

Presumably he isn't proposing a game for someone else to run.

>>51853331
It's got too little conflict going on. There's no PATRIARCHY to rebel against there.

>>51853347
no worries man

>>51853378
All of my reasoning is incredibly petty, with the exception of Caitlyn, there's no actual character for Caitlyn, and for Seth, I feel like he belongs in an entirely separate game, like he's meant to be in Shattered Star or something of the like.

With Uk'Regash it's largely joking because it's DHB and apparently it's cool to shit on him, with Kline, it's someone's fursona, right down to the DA art selection, the character sheet at the beginning of the application for Aaliya made me reeee slightly.

I do have more legitimate criticism of other characters, but the people i had issue with were male characters from Tian Xia, an ocean or two continents away, so they didn't all fit in the group 2 list.

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Okay so I'm doing some joke builds for a certain set of joke NPCs (pic related).

How do I minimize attack bonus while maximizing AC and HP?

My idea got the HP and defense up while taking the hit for adjacent allies (Stalwart Defender) but the attack bonus was too high for the joke to work.
My friend's good idea was using a class nonproficient in heavy armor and tower shield (all that armor check penalty to attack) but is incompatible with my idea since the prestige class gives proficiency for heavy armor and tower shields.

So what other ways are there to comically limit attacks?

In another joke build, we're trying to find a way to only cast one (powerful explosion) spell a day. The best my friend got was wizard with bonded object and refusing to use a spellbook.

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>>51853482

>>51852932
I already know im not getting picked but thats okay. I am not a bitter person.

>>51853475
>With Uk'Regash it's largely joking because it's DHB and apparently it's cool to shit on him
Uk'Regash isn't DHB though, that's Solomon.

>>51853482
Take both Combat Expertise and Martial Power (that's from Path of War); the latter lowers your attack for an AC bonus, whereas the latter lowers your attack for Temporary HP.

>>51853566
But Martial Power counts as Combat Expertise. That means you can't have both.

>>51853549
Oh, was it? Must've misread, then throw solomon on the list and take out the ork.

>>51853123
Lucius because he's my favourite, Rath to complement Lucius on the other male slot so we got an agile defensive mundane CG and a powerful offensive magic LG, Lorelei to contrast them both and for lesbian-trap shenanigans, Mercedes to add color, cover some mechanical ground and because she looks like she'd ship well with any of the others. I guess Tia for healing with a lack of other options, and the last spooooot, maybe Wisteria because I think she has the least overlap with anyone.

For team 2, I think Seth is the only very magical boy so we'll start there. Arme to get a completely non-magical boy on the opposite alignment, though I wish they weren't both CHA dump characters. Fei for an agile defensive martial and so her and because her teacher shtick works well with both of the guys. There's way too much INT now so Francisca who brings along a dragon for uniqueness. I think Aaliya is the only remaining character with viable healing so her on the fifth slot. Lisa because I have no other ideas but she's really cute and I couldn't fit her into team 1.

>>51853594
>You can take both this feat and Combat Expertise.

>>51853594
Martial Power explicitly states you can take both!

>>51853475
but you said nothing about my character

>>51853475
Seth would suck for shattered star because someone who speaks fluent thassilonian (something you need a linguistica check for even if you knew the language) as well as actually lived in the era would kill all inveatigative encounters of the adventure.

Not to mention there would be little reason for the PC to not tell the party to fuck off and side with the enemy specially when they start looting.

>>51853512

I missed the /tg/konosuba thread (>>51804477)where this would have been more relevant. Sorry for adding to the cancer that plagues these threads.

>>51853566

Yeah I figured that part out, just wondering if there's some more obscure ways of just making that to-hit probability absolutely terrible.

Another one is using a nonproficient weapon that's the wrong size category for -4 and -2 respectively.

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>>51853611
>>51853624
Well fuck me in the ass and call me Trader Susan, you guys are right. Muh bad!

>>51853639
Remember, it's not a case of Darkness being terrible, it's a case of her not wanting to be good; she simply actively doesn't attack.

>>51853639
>fighting with two 1-handed weapons without TWF
>always using power attack
>using exotic weapons you are nonproficient in
>trying to do nonlethal damage with a lethal weapon

>>51853639
Fight defensively. -4 to hit in exchange for +2 to AC.

Power Attack, Vital Strike, and BAB +8 qualifies you for Staggering Blow, which lets you take another -2 to hit.

>>51853545

This, except I'll be pretty sad.

I put a lot of effort into that character, and I'm not some cuck who reuses concepts to spam no matter their appropriateness.

>>51853671

Well a part of it is Darkness putting all her points in HP while ignoring attack (I might be remembering wrong), but you're right, the other part of it is her being terrible as a "player." So I'm trying to have a mix of both poor play and poor character building to maximize the effect.

Comparatively, my Aqua build is actually good on paper (reflecting the whole "every stat is good except INT) but requires you to play like an idiot. On the other hand, the Kazuma build is hampered by the (intentionally bad) overly even stat distribution.

>>51853331

Mengkare controls who gets into paradise, and doesn't want gays or the mentally ill.

Mengkare only wants BREEDERS.

>>51851031
Bro, I explained the conflict to you like 3 times, you just didn't like to hear what it was and then whined that your character you'd made beforehand for a completely different session couldn't be shoved into mine without making some alterations to fit the setting.

You can have your opinions on whether or not you'd like my storytelling style, but don't act as if I don't know what I'm doing.

So later this week I'm gonna be playing in a game with DHB. Anyone played with him before? Should I be worried?

>>51853346

Mithril in Tolkien was described as silver-steel, and Adamantine was always likened to dark gray or even black.

Besides lying to people's faces, what else can you do with bluff?

What kinda (non-traditional) Pathfinder game should I run?

>>51853947
DHB is a fine player. Don't worry bruh. It's when he's homebrewing shit that he gets annoying. But as a player? He's fine. It's 2hu you gotta worry about.

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>>51848642
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>>51853987

The Adventures of Marthin Luther!

What's better to compensate for atrocious low Char, Student of Philosophy or Clever Wordplay?