Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1355: Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain Edition

>>51842695

metroid
prototype
metal gear solid and rising
Earth Defense Force

Mold zombies are gross.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9Ce3uKpuJ0pWTU1Nk5aZFVzTXc

if anyone needs it

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>>51843168
http://pastebin.com/75xt3A09
Jump #10: Lovecraft
>Have you ever lived in a bad neighbourhood, so you just kind of keep your head down and hope the terrifying people don’t care about you and your place of business? Because this was the cosmic equivalent to that for me. I spent the ten years moving around the world, briefly opening the shop in one place, only to shut down a week later and move to Antarctica. At times, I fought off Shoggoths for the XP, Materials, and because they were trying to kill people, but for the most part I talked less, Smiled More, and tried not to get eaten

>>51842695
Digital Devil Saga

The God of Highschool.

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>>51843218
#11:http://pastebin.com/bc1c4UEb
>Fan-Fucking-Tastic. This was my first forray into the Shin Megami Tensei Universe, and it was about as fun as one would expect. I started off trying to be as heroic as possible and slating my hunger for flesh, which lasted for all of an hour before the first cluster of Angels Demons. They were fairly easy to fight off, but I realized that it might not be the best idea, a thought punctuated by Angel sending another cluster. It was at this point I realized that leaving a powerful genius with a grudge against me alone might not be the best idea. While early attempts to damage her powerbase lead to stabbing on the wrong end of the equation, I quickly managed to form an army of ragtag misfits with reason to dislike her, and tried to use outside influence to evolve them in beneficial ways, but only ended up causing minor changes in strength due to the oddity of Demonic Biology. My Attempt to create a Shoggoth Unit were fairly Successful, if inefficient, and giving the Soldiers Stands was met with Mild Success and few casualties, if with very few outstanding specimens. After a few months, I was ready to mount a siege on her base.

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>>51843251
>While starting off I was at a rather heavy numbers disadvantage, after a few minutes Sayaka came in the with the Cavalry and brought a swift and bloody end to her minions. After her minions were gone, defeated by an array of outside context powers, it took a while to fight her alone. In the end, we managed to beat her using the Red Stone of Aja. From there, it was smooth sailing, aside from the Four Holy Beasts and Huang Long, who my benefactor informed me that I was supposed to fight. Genbu fell fairly easily, Seiryu ended up maiming me before Sayaka managed to get some good hits in, Suzaku took a while to beat but was manageable, and Byakko clawed my left eye out before one of my subordinates managed to use one of the Anti Alien weapons I made in world eight. At this point, I was just tired, so I took a while to sleep. Of course, this is when Huang Long decided to make an entrance and try to disintegrate me. After a few hours, several litres of healing potions, me dying and having to regenerate from a Soul Gem, and a variety of Almighty attacks from both sides, he was dead, and I could move onto the next… What!? Oh, you unbelievable-

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>>51843273
Jump #11.5, DDS Part II, same Pastebin
Fucking Hell, More of this Bullshit? I spent the ten years alternating between Vigilantism, expanding my faction, running my store, Heavy Swearing, and eating demons. I saved some people, and I think I made a positive impact on the world, even if I wasn’t all that happy at any point in this godforsaken world. I swear to god, if there's a part three I'm going to just start crying and never stop.
Next Jump is Batman!

Val, do you still have DNA with a bardadium body?

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Greek myth
Hydra
Monster 1000 years old
Terrifying visage free
Beast beyond nature 800
Myth of a monster 500 (unbreakable skin/scales)
Receptive doves 400
Demigod -100

Items
Cornucopia -200
Raidable farm free

Drawbacks
Achilles heel 0


Does this look good? I couldnt tell if you picked your monster form or what so I became a hydra.

>>51843168
>>51843232
Added and thank you.

Hey Val, would Anathema from Smite bypass the Taboo?

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>>51843273
>>51843293
please tell me there's whole set

>>51843329
The answer to all of these questions seems to be "your body is functionally the same except massively more durable" so I'd assume do.

>>51843329
>>51843400
Wait until tomorrow, Red just chased her out of the IRC because she can't take a joke.

>>51843400
That one comes down to wank, unless Valeria is also Somefaggit.

>>51843329
Possibly. Probably. Up to you really, though the Barbadium itself isn't genetic if you decide to go with that.

>>51843400
No idea.

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>>51843412
Yes.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?utf8=%E2%9C%93&tags=tsuzuya_%28knt31%29+cosplay+&ms=1

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What do Jumpers do when they're sad?

>>51843400
>Not just using an inhuman alt-form to bypass it on a technicality

>>51843425
She is tho. Quite one.

>>51843453
Either destroy some shit or save some shit.

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>>51841775
>>51842212
>>51842389
>>51842539

Just remember to be careful around hungry rust monsters.

>>51843439
2cute

>>51843453
Make babies then use nikamoths fure emblem jumps to toss them into a baby dimension where they grow up fast so I can let them take over the world

>>51843453
I hang out with SCP-999.

>>51843481
I assume barbadium is non-oxidizing.

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What are some perks that help you convince people to take you on as their apprentice? I know of the one in The Princess Bride and the one in Generic Xianxia, but I could have sworn that there was at least a few more.

>>51843510
While rust monsters prefer ferrous metals to other metals, but their power doesn't care and they're still quite happy to eat the latter too.

>>51843531
God of High School has one.

>>51843453
Well brood, hang out with my companions, then endure my various companions attempts to cheer me up. They mean well but it leads to a lot of misadventures and shenanigans

>>51843555
Still has to oxidize to rust, anon. Plenty of non-ferrous metals oxidize.

>>51843426
Street Fighter Issues.
Combat Method perk gives you knowledge of a Martial Art, but it is a mundane one only unless you are from the Shotokan Background.
But the other backgrounds have high end perks that are supernatural Martial Arts.
Like Guru, Soul Power, & Senjutsu Apprentice in Drop In, Psycho Power in Criminal, Energy Sponge in Law Enforcement, Traditional Ninja (With Street Fighter) in Rouge, Muscle Power (with Street Fighter) in Fighter.

I think the Supernatural Capstone in each background should lift the limitation as well.

Also, The Ki Manipulation is implied on some higher end perks, but only Senjutsu is called out as granting its effects. What about Energy Sponge, among others. It seems like Ki manipulation in an implicit part of the ability.

Elemental Affinity, can you learn it within the setting? Can you train from the first level to the 2nd level?

>>51843555
That sounds like more of an entropy kind of thing and metal probably has an advantage over flesh in that regard.

>>51843624
Yes it is limited to mundane stuff. That is because all those others are capstones. Not free/100cp perks. Shotokan costs more to make up for the difference, among other things. Fail to see the issue here.

What limitation? Why would buying a capstone let you then buy other capstones for just 100cp?

If it doesn't say it grants it, it doesn't. Energy Sponge isn't Ki Manipulation in general, it's a specific power.

You could potentially learn it in setting but you'd need to find someone to teach you.

>>51843588
Uh, anon, Rust Monsters don't operate according to RL physics.

>>51843633
Any metal they touch corrodes, even magical metals just take fractionally longer to succumb (unless used to damage the rust monster, in which case not even that).

And as an Ex ability, it's not even magic, it's just a cute little adorifying rust monster giving a sheer fuck-you to physics.

>>51843531
i think there's one in rick and morty.

>>51843419
>>51843711
So why do you still talk to Red anyway? She's a self-centered bitch with thin skin and ego issues, and if she's driving you off because her feefees got hurt she's got no right to bother you.

>>51843740
Then they shouldn't be called rust monsters, if they don't rust things. They're metal corrosion monsters. You can't blame me for assuming that something does what it says in the name. It's like having a "fire monster" that shoots lightning, and saying it's fine because fire is something different in the universe it comes from. No, fuck you, use the terms that make sense to your audience.

>>51843793
Birds of a feather, anon. Val's a self-centered bitch with thin skin and ego issues, too, so they get along well.

>>51843862
We are thinking of two different Vals then, because she BTFOs anyone who gives her shit. Plus Val makes better jumps.

>>51843917
I'm thinking of the Val who insults people for not sharing her interpretations of canon and runs away from IRC whenever calls her out on what a bitch she's being. Probably not the one you're talking about, though, because the one I'm thinking of has never made a good jump in her life.

>>51843846
Heh, I actually suspect they might be called rust monsters just in part to annoy people who insist on a fantasy universe obeying RL physics.

In-setting though I expect it's because "rust" is what it looks like to your average dumb fighter who used Int as their dump stat and that's what they told all their friends, not because that's what's actually happening.

>>51843711
Does stuff you do to the Serene Mountain carry over to the mountain found on later jumps. I am torn between being the Enlightened Sage on the mountain, or being Kage of the Hidden Ninja Village.
So I am leaning toward getting the mountain and making the abandoned sprawling stone temple into a monastery, recruiting people there to train into Ninja Monks I can be Kage of. I am hoping my efforts will carry over into later jumps. Not the exact same people, but an inhabited monastery filled with people as skilled and well trained in my teachings as I left behind.

I love it when I see a shitposter talking to himself, it makes me feel so much better about my social life.

>>51843711
I was about to ask if boosted Tandem Style could be used to make Power of Nothingness and Satsui no Hado play nice with each other, but then I realized that getting it all costs 100 CP more than the maximum you can get.

Good jump, by the way. Having trouble deciding what I want to do.

>>51843862
>>51843917
Girls, girls, you're both pretty (fucked up assholes)

>>51844019
>Girls, girls, you're both pretty

Has saying that to a pair of girls ever actually worked?

>>51844006
No, there's two of us. He hates Red, and likes Val. I like Red, and hate Val. It's the yin and yang of shitposting, eternally opposed and yet needing each other to be complete.

>>51843996
Yeah, changes carries over. You could also just start with them combined the ninja village and mountain if you want, same with any of the property stuff you buy in the jump.

>>51844011
It can combine them if you had all three but yeah, seems it costs too much.

Glad to hear.

Are there any ways to become immune to the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception (Tohno & Ryougi)?

>>51844045
So you're Red falseflagging. Good of you to admit how sad your envy of Val has made you.

>>51844075
Perks that prevent you from being mystically sensed and scanned (I know there's one in Exalted: Infernals, just off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are others) should prevent the Eyes from being able to see your death lines.

>>51844044
Maybe if the fight was about "I'm pretty, you're ugly!" "No, I'm pretty, you're ugly!"

>>51844090
Oh, no, I'm not falseflagging for Red. I don't envy Val. I genuinely hate her. She's been pretty bitchy to me and has exhausted any good will her jumps have engendered. Not that there was much, after they consumed thread after thread with bullshit conversation about terrible settings. The jumps might be quality work, but there's only so much you can polish a turd. And when said turd-polisher is a huge bitch, well...

>>51844075
Would plucking out his eyes before he can react work? I don't know the setting, but it sounds to me like that should work.

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>>51844090
>>51844127

>>51844075
Tohno is easy, if you're hard enough to kill he has an aneurysm before he can understand your concept of death. Ryougi is a bit trickier, but can be held off by similar methods.

Basically just make it really hard to end you via normal methods. This is one of those times that the Avatar Cycle perk is actually worth something, considering that the bones of a monk who gained enlightenment were enough to give Ryougi trouble.

>>51844127
I'm calling YOU Red being a whiny bitch about Val being better than you by a mile.

>>51844092
There's also one in Death Note, called Private.

>>51844092
Private from Death Note might work given that it stops people from getting information about you supernaturally.

>>51844165
Whatever you say, Val. Accuse others of sockpuppeting, I'm sure that will deflect attention from your own. Is it sad to know that the only reason anyone likes you is because you give them easy opportunities for powerwanking?

>>51844127
Name a setting you think is good?

>>51844155
>a monk who gained enlightenment
I'm springboarding here a bit, but what exactly does it mean to gain enlightenment? I keep hearing that thrown around in a lot of bullshit-anime contexts, but I don't know what that entails in practical terms.

>>51843453
Usually I eat something and spend somewhere between an afternoon and a month veging out with my Companions

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So, I'd like to bring up the question of Crusader Kings again.

The original claimant has had no communication since 4 months ago. Before then, I completed Jumps of the other 4 games of the 5 game series it is a part of.

As such, I'm asking to take over the jump. Attached is my WiP.

Or am I interrupting something?

How much of the plot of cyber sleuth can be solved by killing rie/crusadermon asap?

>>51844225
Just the weirdest figurehead shitposting I've ever seen.

Be glad to have the last of the paradox series at last.

>>51844203
Mistborn, Actraiser, Eclipse Phase, Rick and Morty, Kamen Rider, Evangelion, Half-Life, SimAnt...really, the list of settings I think are good is much larger than the ones I think are bad. It's pretty much Nasuverse, 40K, and Gundam 00 that I hate. Anything else is tolerable at worst, but those three are shit. I have never met someone who liked them that wasn't an absolute cretin.

>>51844225
>still no divine blood perk
Cena, I am disappoint.

>>51844225
>No perk to found a dynasty of sapient horses

>>51844234
The plot changes a whole bunch, but the core problem is still there. Fuckin EATERS man, eating stuff.

>>51844267
GOD DAMMIT PEOPLE MAKE UP YOUR MIND

DO YOU WANT MEME OPTIONS OR DON'T YOU?

>>51844279
I'm fine with it, personally. I don't know why everyone gets so hard on you about memes, plenty of other jumps have them.

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>>51844225
Give it six months and if nobody peeps by then call time of death.

>>51844213
Basically fully comprehending yourself and the situation you're in. Letting go of all biases and seeing the world as it truly is with no preconceptions or prior beliefs affecting you. Enlightenment means understanding the world as it truly is.

>>51844290
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/49305023/#49317209

Start here. Work your way down.

>>51844276
What's a good way to kill their asses and rescue Yuugo?

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Hey guys. Been out of the country a few months, anything new and interesting come out since November?

>>51844225
>Salvation Through Descruction
Should probably note they can't be repositories you've built or caused to be built, otherwise you can just have people build dozens of libraries to farm breakthroughs.

>>51844279
>implying /tg/ is PEOPLE
I for one welcome our new Eastern Roman Empire overlords.

>>51844279
I like them so long as they're not stale and don't overtake the rest of the jump, but most people seemed really upset last time this came up so I didn't say anything.

>>51844245
Mistborn is pretty good. A jump for the Stormlight Archive would be cool when there's enough books out.

>>51844213
In real world dharmic religions, it means internalizing the truths of the cosmos. In Hinduism, that means understanding that you are God (and so is everyone and everything else) who is only dreaming that you're you. In Buddhism it means understanding that there is no you and realizing the falsehoods of the twelve links of the chain of dependent arising.

That all gets muddled by the popularity of Chan/Zen Buddhism in Japan, and hence anime. Chan Buddhism was founded by Chinese guys who were reading poor translations of Buddhist scriptures and trying to turn that into a coherent religion with a single consistent theology (which was impossible, because the texts were full of contradictions due to actually being a bunch of Indian theologians arguing with each other rather than a canon of sacred truths.) So you get weird bullshit like enlightenment understanding nonsense like "what is the sound of one hand clapping."

Then add to that pop culture trying to include monks with supernatural powers in cosmologies where that doesn't make any sense, just like vampires being weak to crosses in works where Christianity isn't real. So "enlightenment" may as well be "high wisdom score + divine magic" in most settings.

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>>51844331
From me: Finished Metroid, finished the Lyrical Nanoha WIP after Ancilla passed it along, Kamen Rider Gaim, Kamen Rider Neo-Heisei Part 3, Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z got released as non-endjumps (had some help and approval from the floof), and then I helped Digger with a Kamen Rider Decade gauntlet/endjump shortly after making Kamen Rider Ryuki as a gauntlet.

From everyone else: LOTS OF JUMPS AND TOO MANY FOR ME TO REMEMBER OFF-HAND.

>>51844071
Couple of questions about Greed:

Does it take a conscious effort to keep it active or could it stay active while you sleep?

If you wanted to use it on something like a Worm power or an Exaltation could you have it eat the host or would you need to capture and eat the Shard/Exaltation? And would it then switch over to being powered by life energy?

>>51844331
Jumpchain was declared illegal while you were gone, this is a honeypot and the feds will be at your door in 30 seconds.

>>51844336
/gsg/?

>>51844332
Not sure if that's actually something you can do in the game. Probably is.

Will fix.

>>51844316
Probably doing the same as in the plot and ganking Queen Eater in the Digital World, I think. I didn't actually finish the game, got to the part just before the Digital World part at the top of the skyscraper and didn't end up progressing any farther due to reasons.

>>51844374
Aren't you worried you're eventually going to just break if you keep doing do much shit?

Or did it already happen and that's why you CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP?

>>51844376
I don't know if you could grab an Exaltation that way (though considering that Exaltations are really hard to grab a hold of if they don't want you to use them, it would be tricky), but an Entity shard isn't in the host. They've just got a little antenna in their brain allowing them to connect to it. I don't think you could gain Worm powers from eating parahumans, you'd need the shards themselves.

>>51844376
I don't believe it takes conscious effort but there's not really much info either way.

No, if the power source is external you need to eat that external source. In series Greed gets the powers of other Charyeok by eating those Charyeok, rather then just the user. Though sometimes it just eats both. Either way, for stuff like that, you'll need to make sure Greed swallows the source of the power, not just the recipient.

>>51844392
So something like being omnimon in the regular digimon jump for some firepower, and then just murderizing them?

What about Yuugo? Any way to rip him out before killing them?

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>>51844383

>>51844225
Woah. Infinite reincarnation through your legal heir in all future jumps ain't kosher as a reward for the optional victory condition.

Seeing as I appear to have satisfied all the previous issues with my jump, I have posted the Peter Pan jump on the Google Drive.

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>>51844395
I'm more worried about the fact I can't remember when I did most of these things.

I also did Kamen Rider Kabuto and Madoka: Wraith Timeline.

I think I did most of these in a single month.

Send help.

>>51844331
New Fate Stay
Fate Zero
Cluster Truck
God of Highschool
Street Fighter
Kamer Rider Decade Gauntlet
Madoka Wraith Timeline
Distant Sky Gauntlet
Superman the Animated Series
Digital Dvil Saga part 2
Dragonball
Dragonball Z
Dragonball AF
Dragonball Multiverse
How to Train Your Dragon
Infinite Stratos
Oblivion
World of Cultivation

Probably some more that I'm missing.

>>51844428
Did I leave that in?

Will fix.

>>51844413
Yeah that was my point.

>>51844414
Alrighty then, thanks.

So the power source doesn't change? Magic powers would still need magic, Superman's powers would still need sunlight, etc?

Come to think of it, could it eat magical items as well?

>>51844225
>Victory condition
Oh wow, missed that. Yeah that's kind of insane. As many extra lives as you have kids, so just store a few million test tube babies in the warehouse or a pocket realm and never die.

Seriously, what did you even think about putting that in?

>>51844438
Now hold on a sec--at least let people give it one last over before you do that. I'm not really invested in the jump and neither have I read it, but it's safe to post it first before doing that, speaking as a jumpmaker. You might think that you worked out the kinks, but maybe there's some there you can't see.

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>>51844331
I released Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen in January, so you would have missed that.

If you've been out since November, you've missed a ton of content being released. Especially lately. Between Heavens, Digger, Val, and all the rest, there's a LOT that's been released in the last few months.

>>51844441
...And Dirge thinks I can end up one of the bigger jumpmakers like you guys?

What the hell?

>>51844374
>>51844442
Cheers fellas.

>>51844383
Joke's on them, I'm already oiled up.

>>51844454
nigga
>>51844449

>>51844422
That's what the good guys were implying their plan was, pulling Yuugo out and killing the Queen. Not sure how it worked out for them.

>>51844463
Fuck yes Ogre Battle, I'll have a look.

Wait why did the kryptonian and martian races get removed from the Injustice jump?

>>51844466
When did he say that?

>>51844438
I don't like how Shadow Sewing seems to be useless without also taking Shadow Biter, since there's no way to get detached shadows for sewing without Shadow Biter.

>>51844466
Are you still planning to rework you Bleach jump?

>>51844460
It's been there for a few days and posted multiple times. It's fine by now.

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>>51844469
Fixed salvation through destruction and the victory condition.

>>51844492
Because I'd literally rather shoot myself than put up with the endless fucking wank that they cause

>>51844438
Yet more Fairies.

This pleases me.

>>51844466
Don't compare yourself to other people. People grow at different rates. It wouldn't be fair to yourself to do that.

>>51844331
Remade Sailor Moon, Did Fire Emblem Elibe and Geneology, currently working on Fire Emblem Heroes.

>>51844492
Cena hates fun.

>>51844492
Because mainline Martians/Kryptonians are complete and utter bullshit, even by comics standards. Be an Amazon if you want to be a flying brick, not as durable as Supes but nearly his physical equal in all other respects.

>>51844507
You were the one who was wanking them, man.

>>51844519
What I'm trying to say here is that you shouldn't lose hope, BLADE. I just now realized that my statement can be taken as harsh--it wasn't meant to be rude.

>>51844495
On SB, shortly after I made oblivion.

>>51844501
I plan on replacing the capstones with something based on each of the movies.

But, a 'going through it and flat out replacing some things' tier rework isn't something I have much of a desire to do.

Why?

>>51843378
How unbreakable is skin here? I mean I know the jump says unbreakable but is it really?

>>51844507
Why include Czarnian, then? Lobo's shown to be able to fight superman toe to toe and high scale regeneration perks are looked down upon more than whatever made you ditch martians.

>>51844546
Just curious. You mentioned it before. Ever going to finish a customization supplement?

Also what's up with straight up removing perks – and capstones at that?

>>51844568
Maybe because it comes with the unwritten drawbacks of "Oh gods there's TWO of them!" and "Lobo's gunna hunt ya"?

>>51844438
I had a horrible vision of a jumper going to Fist of the North Star and getting Hokuto Shin Ken, then taking the Heartless drawback here. They decide to spend the whole jump "practicing" on whoever they happen across, even developing a special technique to combine with pixie dust that makes their playmates shoot straight up before they explode. Like fireworks.

I was under the impression that there are a lot of children in Neverland.

>>51844492
Because it would unbalance the jump due to those races massively overshadowing everything else. Kryptonians/Martian are bullshit to the extent that it's virtually impossible to balance the jump around them.

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Oh, right.

So since it's been almost a year since I made the thing and I'm admittedly a little embarrassed of how it looks, even post-update, I'm going to update the Heaven's Lost Property jump.

Yes, I know. The waifu factory jump getting an update. Exciting.

I'll be taking this opportunity to go through all of my old jumps and update them, or at least fix the many, many typos they have and finally add the fucking DLC to Disgaea. Should probably be done with all of that in time to finish my binge of Heisei Riders and finally complete the saga of toku.

>>51844507
But all Superman has over Lobo and Doomsday are the utility things like flight and heat vision and they have much more survivability while lacking his weaknesses. It would actually be less bullshit to have a Kryptonian option instea for a Doomsday one.

>>51844568
The injustice comics show Lobo dropping a building on Superman like it was nothing.

Superman shrugs off the building, flies Lobo all the way to the sun in a minute, flies him back, and says "You can regen from a single drop of blood. But there wouldn't be a single drop left if I threw you in the sun."

Equal? Naaah.

>>51844612
>Inhibited experiment
>inhibited

m8

Also injustice doomsday could be held still by Bane. Not comics-level.

>>51844574
The closest I ever came to a customization supplement was throwing 800 cp worth of perks into the sword.

Think I actually made one or two of the premade one's that way.

The capstones i'm replacing are the one's based on the special war powers, and were one of the less well received things.

Looking back on it, that wasn't the greatest idea. So, i'm replacing four of the five 800 cp capstones with things based on the movies.

>>51844614
He regenerates from any single drop of his blood, not the ones shed when he suffers a killing wound. There are lots of Lobo clones running around, they're just mostly non-sapient. Kill him and his consciousness will transfer to one of the animalistic ones.

>>51844614
Totally irrelevant to the discussion, but that still wouldn't kill Lobo if he's the same as his mainstream counterpart. He's banned from the afterlife so he comes back even from complete atomization.

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>>51844607
>Yes, I know. The waifu factory jump getting an update. Exciting.
looking forward to it.

>>51844630
Don't suppose youre keeping the one based on Ichigo?

>>51844632
Yeah, I'm just gonna chalk that up to comics being inconsistent.

>>51844641
With respect, that's bullshit and you know it.

Besides, Lobo fucks off after Superman says that, so it probably would kill him actually.

>>51844623
So he's literally shit compared to Atlantean and Amazon races?

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>>51844607
>and finally add the fucking DLC to Disgaea


BODACIOUS BABES

I can't wait for any of it but I hope you ain't teasing me bro and can you please link me whatever pastebins you had for the DLC I wanna read them again I lost the links

>>51844507

It wouldn't be open for wank if you simply define races by the superpower perks that they get for free or discounted, and note that certain characters of that race may be stronger or faster than that, but you just have the perk.

And if people insist on wanking after that, may as well just ignore them, because they'd just say they can steal a hair and use Genetics! to gain all the powers of everyone anyway.

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>>51844623
Then why give us a gimped doomsday option if injustice Doomsday isn't comicbook level?
But give us a borderline comicbook Czarnian and have the balls to give them the exact same price.

>>51844632
Seriously? Jesus that's absurd. There's a whole army of beastial grey men running around the universe that can each toss skyscrapers and all function as Horcruxes?

...Will we have this power if we go Czarnian?

>>51844655
That's the one I'm keeping, yes. There are only four movies after all.

Well, there's supposed to be a live action one, but that aint out yet, so I can't base anything off of it.

>>51844225
>Aspect of the Gods
If I'm a god, can I worship myself and benefit?

>The Eternal Wheel
What exactly does this do? If I give a begger a loaf of bread, do I get a loaf of bread? What if I save someone's life? Give them vast supernatural power?

>>51844658
No? That's a fairly established part of his canon similar to how it is for Deadpool and Thanks.

>>51844664
I mean. They totally can steal a hair and use it to do that if they can break whatever encryption is on Kryptonian DNA if that's canon and aren't afraid of accidentally Burning Martians. But then they could do that in the normal DC jump.

>>51844460
I understand that and that's why I made sure to post it here first. That said, I made all of the changes that were brought up, and seeing as the discussion seemed to have moved on, I didn't really see much point in waiting further if there were no more suggestions. Plus, someone already started planning out a build using my jump in the last thread, so I thought I should make it official before it got me in hot water.
>>51844504
Yeah, that was my thought on the matter.

Then again, I guess there's still a few things to address:
>>51844499
The issue was that the two shadow aspects really belonged in different backgrounds - the Sewing perk stems from Wendy's sewing, while the Biter perk stems from how Nana ripped it off in the first place. I tried to make things fair by giving Sewing a lower price; plus, it also lets you sew attached shadows together, like a soldier's shadow to the shadow of a nearby pillar, so it's not entirely useless on its own.

>>51835636
Actually, the original book hints at Neverland being sentient, or at least personified. You get observations like "because the island was looking for them," and "Feeling that Peter was on his way back, the Neverland had again woke into life."

>>51844699
... Live action Bleach. That's going to be a thing?

>>51844659
In fairness, plot has lead them to job as well.

>>51844664
Tried that. Wank endured. Also, people used feats as reasons to show that Supes would have a 3k CP value if I did it that way.

>>51844689
Doomsday has higher durability. You're only gimped in terms of being able to come back from death immune to the last thing that killed you, all else is fair game.

>>51844712
>If I'm a god, can I worship myself and benefit?

Better believe it, Jumpogorath.

> If I give a begger a loaf of bread, do I get a loaf of bread?

Equivelant utilities. Give a loaf of bread, you get something that has the same value to you that the bread had to him. Save their life, same thing.

>>51844734
http://kotaku.com/the-first-photos-of-the-live-action-bleach-movie-shoot-1787346562

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How does one make their writing interesting? How? I keep trying to write for this jump in my chain but I keep hitting a wall over and over. I keep writing sloughs of stuff but it just isn't interesting.

What am I doing wrong?

>>51844758
>equivalent
>Same value to you that it is to him
That seems like it'll get really broken, really fast. If I give a man everything he could ever want, do I get everything I could ever want? If I give a man the thing he wants most, do I get the thing I want most? What if the most he wanted was a nice house and happy family whilst I wanted the power to warp the universe to my will?

>>51844607
Include a customizable angelroid builder so you can create templates for your angelroids.

You know you want to.

>>51844829
You stop whining about it online like a little bitch.

>>51844691
Probably not. Lobo implies that his regeneration is better than your typical Czarnian (probably why they didn't survive him deciding to kill the rest of his species for shits and giggles), so it's probably a unique power of his.

Yo, Herculanon, you're supposed to upload new updates and jump iterations to the thread.

>>51844758
So are you roughly as strong as the characters each race is based on? Diana for Amazon, Etrigan for Demon, etc. Also, I could have sworn the description of Experiment outright said you were also weaker than Doomsday.

>>51844829
I don't know, Val. But being a shit writer has never stopped you before. Why are you having problems now?

>>51844758
>Equivelant utilities. Give a loaf of bread, you get something that has the same value to you that the bread had to him. Save their life, same thing.
That seems like it scales insanely. What happens if I run through graveyards spamming mass resurrection spells as fast as I can? How much utility is being rescued from oblivion worth? Raised out of Hell? What If I'm handing out immortality at the same time.

And that's to say nothing of if I steal phylacrety wormb from Exalted and start handing out Infernal Exaltations to mortal heroes in tight spots.

>>51844855
That is a plan.
>>51844661
I've added a bit more since then, but for now I'll ask you to wait patiently, friend anon. It will be done.

>>51844829
Going outside of your comfort zone and ignoring potential shame of people associating the writing with you to create something more emotional is good. More passion, more conflicting ideas from people with different perspectives and opinions. Get a clear idea of what you want to happen but realize nothing is perfect. I struggle a bunch with writing something I consider interesting too. Do you have any idea what might be causing you problems? The core concept? The dialogue?

>>51844873
Not really. The jump specifies that mature Czarnians as better, Lobo could have easily been referring to that. And Lobo killed his race with some plague or something in a highschool science project (he's a genius). He might've been out of range or just made immune.

>>51844829
Do not write a story. Do not force yourself to create situations and fancy prose.

Live the story, and simply share to the world what has happened during your travels.

Alternatively: look up a fucking tutorial or some shit.

Alternatively alternatively: write something else (or nothing at all) until you figure something out spontaneously.

>>51844854
No - He gets a large amount of happiness throughout his life for that. You would get something similar, which would make your life quite easier, but nothing of that value. Perhaps quickly becoming the friend of a powerful person in a jump where that's important and can lead to great dividends.

Given the fickle nature of karma, I feel justified, for once, in saying "wank something."

>>51844889
Pretty much. And I could have sword you're wrong - hope you are and I don't have to reupload.

>>51844903
>How much utility is being rescued from oblivion worth? Raised out of Hell?

The same amount of utility as being rescued yourself from a similar situation.

>>51844881
I just realized that, using the ability to put microcosms, you could make a meme that contains the essence of butthurt.

>>51844829

There isn't really a simple answer. Ultimately, what sustains writing is having a *story* to tell - cool scenes or one-liners aren't quite enough, though they're perfectly sufficient for a looser style of writing. Journal-style works well for me - just short snippets as though the SI was writing about their day.

Try plotting out an arc - it can be as simple as establishing a timeline for the setting, and making a few notes on how the SI and companions would react, and what their own plans are.

It can help to write about a background - with amnesia drawbacks, you're basically just writing an AU story about a superpowered OC... which sounds bad, but they come with motivations and attachments that a random SI wouldn't.

Another problem is that Jumpchain frontloads abilities - you get a big package of everything... so there isn't really much left to achieve, because it's all happened already. Instead, you could try to make them more like destined accomplishments, and work in the "story of how the SI learnt the hidden secret acupuncture of Cloud Way".

>>51844960
So what if I make someone completely happy for the rest of his life? So that he never experiences unhappiness again?

Look dude, people are just going to keep bringing up examples.

>>51844535
Amazons can't fly senpai.

>>51844960
So we could store up 'extra lives' by just mass ressurrecting people, since we'll get saved from death in return for each of them?

>>51844983
depends on the continuity.

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>>51844911
>I've added a bit more since then, but for now I'll ask you to wait patiently, friend anon. It will be done.

Bodacious Babes

Okay then I'll wait but I won't not be hyped in the meantime.

>>51844983
The Amazon race in the Jump makes you like WW.

>>51844977
Hnnngh. Just gonna add a note about karma being a fickle thing that frustrates your efforts to game its system.

Why does this have to happen

>>51845015
Because you make perks that are massively open ended and abusable as fuck?

>>51845015
So you don't get benefits if you're purposefully being nice to get benefits? Wouldn't having knowledge of this at all mean you never get benefits from this perk unless you erase knowledge of it from your mind?

>>51845040
Ha, fair enough.

>>51844988
Can't save you from death. Saving people's lives while they're alive, though, would result in having your life be much more likely to be saved.

I'll also put in that it's more of an inclination thing than a predetermination thing.

>>51844895
At this point you're hilarious to read. I am no longer enraged by your presence in shit talking one of our esteemed jumpmakers. Thanks, shitposter.

>>51844922
That does sound like some good advice, actually...I don't want to be melodramatic, but invoking more emotion sounds good.

>>51844967
>>51844934
Those sound like also good advice, actually. Thanks, this is some really, really good advice.

>>51845015
I don't want to abuse the system. I just wanted to know what I'm getting with this perk when I make my once per jump dump of advanced technology and supplies on all third world nations.

>>51845015
Youcan always just remove the bit about it scaling and it being proportional. Just make it so that being a good person to others gives you good fortune, not that you get back the equivalent of any good acts you do but scaled to be worthy to you.

>>51845015
He doesn't like you so he intentionally misconstrues or tries to break perks to get at you.

Long ago we had people like that actually chase jumpmakers off by ignoring their clarifications and ruling and declaring their warped, max power interpretations as canon.

>>51845015
>>51845066
And remember, if you say yes to "Wouldn't having knowledge of this at all mean you never get benefits from this perk unless you erase knowledge of it from your mind?" just means a Jumper has to erase knowledge of the perk to get benefits again.

>>51845076
So it's NOT actually equivalent worth as you said before?

>>51845086
I'll do this one, thanks. I had legit no idea what to do here.

>>51845077
Good luck anon, I hope things work out for you. I think getting a friend or someone you trust to look it over and give their honest opinion might help you grow too.

>>51845106
Ahh no, don't do that. We already have enough luck perks. This one was unique in causing good things to happen to you when you do good for others.

Just make it so that the happier you make others, the more happiness you get somehow, rather than letting it give you powers or save your life or anything.

>>51845141
That still has all the same problems, unless all it does is make you happy without actually changing your situation in which case it's definitely not 800cp worthy.

>>51845141
But is happiness worth 400 CP?
Maybe I can make it General mental staibility and well-being.

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Is there a way to cast spells through a breath attack?

>>51845259
No! But there should be!

>>51845259
Be a dragonborn

>>51845259
Words of Power from Skyrim?

>>51844466
If thats what he thinks he can suck a railway spike

>>51845163
How about something like
>The bodhisattvas have reached their vaunted positions through their vows to bring the rest of the cosmos along with them on the path to enlightenment, showering them in good karma that allows their celestial incarnations. You too can follow in their path and be rewarded for aiding your fellow man. When you are charitable to others, you will find others to be more charitable towards you or causes you support. If you speak out in favor of the unjustly accused, others will stand up to support you against slander in turn, and if you save the lives of the weak, those stronger than you will be more inclined to risk themselves to protect you as well. Thank the Buddha that your negative karma is not amplified like this.

>>51845163
400cp for eternal happiness? I'd be happier with the CP.

>>51845308
See I don't normally like to blatantly steal shit

But that's pretty good and it's better than what I wrote

So fuck it. Yoink.

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This seems like a good time to post a new chain.

>Jumps 1 - 12
http://pastebin.com/wxX3EMJn

>Companions
http://pastebin.com/heShpwkC

[Jump #1] Pokemon Trainer:
1000cp
------------------

>Location
•Hoenn-(Rolled 8):

>Background
•City Life-(50cp) [Rustboro]:

>Age & Gender
•14-(Rolled 5)
•Male-(No Change)
------------------Total:(50cp)

>Starter
•Actual Starter-(Free) [Torchic]:
------------------Total:(0cp)

>Skills & Abilities
1.Freerunning-(Free):
2.Survival Training-(100cp):
3.Physical Fitness-(100cp):
4.Technician-(150cp):
5.Psionics-(300cp):
------------------Total:(650cp)

>Items & Equipment
1.Bag-(Free):
2.Pokegear-(Free):
3.Pokedex-(Free):
4.Five Pokeballs-(Free):
5.Three Potions-(Free):
6.Hat-(Free):
7.50k Pokedollars-(50cp):
8.Bicycle-(50cp):
9.Parachute-(50cp):
10.Rebreather-(50cp):
11.Laptop-(100cp):
------------------Total:(300cp)

>Setbacks
•None:
------------------

>Future
•Move-On
------------------

>Pokemon I'm taking with me:
1.Blaziken/Will
2.Gardevoir/Mercy
3.Gyarados/Hope
4.Aggron/Wrath
5.Flygon/Spirit
6.Absol/Faith
------------------

>>51845403
>Notes/Journal
Making a build for Pokemon Trainer always takes me forever because I keep trying to make it perfect.

During my time here I mainly just explored. That's always been one of my favorite parts of the pokeworld, the fact that you can just wander around and see all sorts of incredible people, places and creatures without hardly having to worry about time, finances, shelter or travel laws.

Since I started in hoenn I was able to immediately capture all the pokemon that I would take with at the end. Aside from a few exceptions they were the only pokemon I caught since I didn't want to want to collect a bunch of creatures that I would never use or might eventually abandon, but I did try to befriend some of the other pokemon I encountered. Even though I wasn't really interested in becoming the very best like no one ever was I still tried to defeat all the regional gym leaders and I also competed in a few contests. I let the protagonist take care of Teams Aqua and Magma for the most part, but if there wasn't anyone else around and the situation was bad then I'd try to help out.

Hey, how would you guys feel about a drawback quota? Like the opposite of a drawback cap. You must take 600 CP minimum in drawbacks, or do not pass Go.

>>51845426
>Cnt.
After going through everything I wanted to in hoenn I headed to kanto to try and improve my psionic abilities by studying under Sabrina. Once I'd learned everything I could from her I decided to start studying some of the more supernatural aspects of this world.
As I traveled the world I studied ghosts (The Real ones.), legendary pokemon, psychics, aura users, and other weird stuff. Thanks to my laptop and technical skills I was able to record and write about all my discoveries, and since I made everything available to the public I guess in the end I became a sort of paranormal adventure blogger.

On the tenth year, when it finally came time to make my decision, I almost choose to stay forever. It wasn't perfect but the pokeworld was still an amazing place to live and I had built a nice life for myself. But, in the end, I realized the benefactor was offering me the chance to explore place that shouldn't exist and discover things about reality and existence that people could only dream of.
I had to take that chance, not just for myself, but for every explorer that had dreamed of the opportunity.

There was also a part of me that was still afraid of growing old and dying, so at the time I figured that continuing my chain was the best way to extend my life.

>>51845429
Not really a good idea.

>>51844071
>Yeah, changes carries over.
Yay!
>You could also just start with them combined the ninja village and mountain if you want.
Val, you need to set down. I have some important news for you.

Are you ready? Ok, you have a lot more shit for sale in your jump then there is CP to buy stuff.

I'm sorry, I thought you know this already.

Hell, lets look at my build.

>>51845452
Why not? Choose your own adventure in the truest sense.

>>51845460
Street Fighter 1,000 (Forced) Choice Points.
Strongest in the World (+300) 1,300 CP
Misunderstandings (+200) 1,500 CP
The Demon (+200) 1,700 CP
Animal Helper Retinues always present. Sounds cool in theory,
can come off like a reproduction of The Birds to bystandards.
Uncannily Ugly Valley (+100) 1,800 CP
Extended Stay (+0) experiencing the entire trilogy is only 3 more years, that;s not to much of a problem I hope.
Maximum drawbacks gets me 1,800 CP

I am the Sage of Heaven and Earth, pinnacle of Martial Achievement. Yup, the monkey king. But the title is a bit flattering. Everyone who's heard of me thinks of some cute anthropomorphic furry. Nope. Think more neanderthal, jutting forehead, big bushy uni-brow.

There are Martial Artists who know who I am wanting to challenge me so they can be King of the Mountain. (Not Hyperbole, there is a Himalayan Mountain between China and India that belongs to none but me thanks to the mother of all grandfather clauses, an indestructible deed sealed with The Imperial Seal, predating both governments)

And there are those who have not met me, and sort of assume I am some Miscreant Thug from the way I look.

Companion Bulk Import (-200) 1,600 CP Always support your friends.

THE Street Fighter (-500) 1,100 CP Strongest in the World not complete BS

Drop In (No, memories, but a history in the world nonetheless)
Combat Method Drunken Monkey Style (FREE for jumping in)
Ki Manipulation (FREE Senjutsu)
Mysterious (FREE Drop In)
Good once they know me, currently frightening old ladies thanks to Misunderstandings (Stranger + Misunderstanding = Nosy Old Lady Catnip)
Hermit (FREE Drop In) This works wonders after the obligatory fight.

Soul Power (Half -200) 900 CP
Perfect Parry (Half -300) 600 CP
Senjutsu Apprentice (Half -300) 300 CP

>>51845475
Items (DOES NOT SAY YOUR BACKGROUND IS DISCOUNTED I AM ASSUMING THEY ARE)
Tarot Deck (SHOULD BE FREE DROP IN BUT DOES NOT SAY FINGERS CROSSED) Apparently useful for Soul Power, & be Gambit in Superhero Jumps
Serene Mountain (Half -300) 000 CP The point of the Build, my own Shangra La. Eventually.

STUFF I WOULD REALLY LIKE BUT CANNOT AFFORD
1: Guru (Half -100) 1,200 CP Hopefully useful thanks to Street Fighter giving me enough training in it to do the cool stuff, but not sure 100% sure Street Fighter applies to it, and out of CP.

2: Seems Fine (-100) would like this for later jumps, but again, am broke.

3: Time Attack Car (Half -200) would be fun to park in some slum. The crooks keep trying to Steal/Vandalize the luxurious car, but it just keeps resetting to pristine condition where I left it every few seconds.

4: Round Timer (Half -400) this would just be for Reality Warping fun "WTF, how is he making us participate in a Fighting Game?!?"

STUFF VAL IS TRYING TO PAWN ON ME I JUST CANNOT AFFORD
"Oh just but these two properties do get the exact effect you want by throwing CP at it. Cause Everyone has 600 spare CP right?"
NO VAL, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE HAS 600 CP JUST SITTING AROUND IN ONE OF YOUR JUMPS.
Imma have to make my own Mountain Top Ninja Monk Village like all the other CP poor schmoes. Sorry.

Now if you dropped The Street Fighter to 400 CP (Please?) I would add in Guru or Seems Fine (depending on if Street Fighter made you an advanced Guru. Does it?)

If you redid the Bulk Companions so it was 100 CP for 4 (purchasable twice) instead of 200 for 8, I might downsize to 4 imports and get the other by inserting this earlier in my chain.

But nowhere am I finding the CP to get both properties and merge them together. Even If I had both, I would keep them separate for placing them in the HTTYD Archipelago for two new islands instead of one.

>>51845429
I'm not going to get on your ass if you wanna houserule that for yourself, but putting that in an actual jump is an awful idea.

Potentially workable if you're doing something non-standard/scenario-like and they don't have the usual "No, fuck you, you're not allowed to directly counteract this" specification though.

>>51845259
There are breath weapon spells in D&D for dragons.

>>51845460
>>51845475
>>51845485
Haha. Well, glad you enjoy our work. Me and Nu did work hard to put as much cool stuff in as we could. Also sorry you can't get everything you want.


Street Fighter applies to anything you could have training in yes, so it'd work on stuff like Guru. 100cp items are free to the origin and discounted to their origin for the rest. Keep forgetting that. Price drops or changes aren't going to happen though, sorry.

Give me another 4-5 days and you'll get to go through it all over again

>>51844479
You'll have to let me know what you think. I know it's a long one, but I'm rather proud of the way it turned out.

>>51844829
That's seriously one of the hardest parts about writing anything, not just Chain stuff. Raw practice helps more than anything else I've ever attempted. I've read books on the subject, listened to authors talk about their process, even taken a night class on the subject. And still, it's just practice that helps you improve more than anything.

A /lot/ of my writing up until recently has never seen the light of day because it's horrible. And to be honest, a lot of my Chain writing is still pretty bad. But every time I write something bad I try to learn something from it. Maybe it's that I need to develop a character a little more or expand on areas I glossed over, or hell, sometimes it's just a reminder that I need to try harder.

So practice. Fail horribly. Post it anyways. Learn something from the process. Then let it go and try to do better next time. You usually won't do noticeably better immediately, but it will build up and a few months from now you'll realize how many positive steps you've made.

I believe in you Anon. You can do it.

>>51844967
I rather like that idea about perks and items being found throughout the Jump instead of front-loaded so hard. I might steal that for a later Chain.

>>51845259
I'm almost certain there's a Prestige Class in Dungeons and Dragons somewhere.

>>51845538
>I rather like that idea about perks and items being found throughout the Jump instead of front-loaded so hard.
Why don't you just... magpie and learn stuff the normal way, then? There's nothing forcing you to make certain purchases in a jump.

>>51845530
>spoiler
VAL YOU MADWOMAN WHAT ARE YOU UP TO NOW?!

>>51845598
The movie?

>>51845598
It turns out that Seven Deadly Sins won't take until next month to be finished.

>>51845606
Maybe that too. Still need to rewatch it.

>>51844225
>Or am I interrupting something?
Going back through this and the other jumps in the series and getting rid of the 150 CP background cost on the last background?

One problem I have is to take the continuity drawback, you have to have done in in every jump in the series.

The other thing is some of the later jumps presume some specific countries and alliances exist. Which is problematic in carryover. If you have a jumper wanting to leave his mark on the world for the better, some if that could and should have been blown to hell. by Jumper at the helm for centuries. Like the Iron Curtain jump presupposes Communism, Germany, etc, when ideally a jumper in WWI would have smacked down the idiots who wanted country ruining reparations that set the stage for WWII and the rise of Communism in the first place.

>>51845606
The moviiiiiie.

>>51845569
I believe there's been a miscommunication. I was simply saying that I like the idea of a Jumper being granted the powers and items they "bought" over the course of their ten years in the Jump, rather than all at once in the beginning. It would make for more interesting story telling if the Jumper has to struggle with their new abilities, learn how to make them useful, and grow them into their full power instead of just *POP* "There you go." mastery.

I'm not saying anything is forcing me to make certain purchases in any Jump. And I do magpie items and learn what I can along the way on my own already.

Also, what the fuck 4-chan? Why can I no longer post pictures? What's this "Upload Failed" nonsense.

>>51845636
Thanks, NuBeeeee.

>>51845652
They've started cracking down on Canadians. Gotta flush the blighters out somehow.

>>51843453
Do drugs. lots and lots of Commoragh+ tier drugs.

>>51845667
I knew it. Well, no more maple syrup for any of you! NONE!

AND I'M LOCKING UP THE MOOSE TOO!

>>51845629
>Seven Deadly Sins will be finished soon.
HYPE.

>>51845687
>no more maple syrup
Yoro please-

>LOCKING UP THE MOOSE TOO
YORO PLEASE.

>>51845633
>One problem I have is to take the continuity drawback, you have to have done in in every jump in the series.

Fair enough. It was done primarily to prevent Jumpers from doing them out of order.

>The other thing is some of the later jumps presume some specific countries and alliances exist.

Yes, HoI and EvW make that assumption. Largely because that's what made those time periods unique, and that's what the jumps were structured around.

And it doesn't have to be Germany - the idea is that somewhere, fascism will rise.

>>51845687
>>51845713
At least leave us the beavers.

>>51845429
That's patently retarded.

>error: upload failed

well fuck you too

>>51845698
>>Seven Deadly Sins will be finished soon.
>GIANT HYPE.
FTFY

>>51845713
... Okay, you can have a /little/ maple syrup. Just a little though.

>>51845760
Hey, if you guys want those destructive little bastards you can have them. We blow up their homes with dynamite up here.

https://youtu.be/6NOPA50zDmo?t=71

>>51845530
>so it'd work on stuff like Guru
Hm. Ok, how good is the Perfect Parry Perk?
Like could it let me catch and Nullify a Superman punch (chopsticks optional) if I was fast enough? What about non physical or area attacks (fireballs, Scion Fuck Off Beam)

Can Street Fighter boosted Perfect Parry (with some earlier line perks like Senjutsu &/or Guru) fast enough to do the "Catch a bullet shot at you" shtick out of the box?

Does the Nullification have a power cap? If so, is it raised by Street Fighter, or just the response time? I already have some speed, so if the Nullification aspect is not that great I might move some points around.

Would Guru effectively give you Combat Method: Yoga (is yoga a combat usable art here?)

>>51845698
All of the Hype.

Also super hyped for MCUp2.

>>51845826
What about the moose?

>>51845837
It's too late for the moose. I've locked it up with a Club. No joyriding for anyone until pictures can be posted again.

That's right, I'm holding the Moose as my Trump Card!

>>51845830
Presumably the Parry would grow stronger as you do. Or at least that would make sense considering the source material.

>>51845826
>... Okay, you can have a /little/ maple syrup. Just a little though.
Is. . . is that a euphemism?

>>51845863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egptlC4rKOc

>>51845881
Doncha know it, eh?

>>51845889
Always end up associating that with people from Minnesota more than Canada.

>>51845714
>It was done primarily to prevent Jumpers from doing them out of order.
That reminds me, you might want to add a 4th option to each jump letting them go straight to the next jump in the series, (for those who roll randomly)

or switch a later jump for Crusader Kings if not taken (for random rollers who want to do that senario have to do them all in order you have mentioned.)

Also I cannot remember if the drawback already works this way, but the Out of setting lockout drawbacks should still allow previous jumps in the series stuff to work (since same setting after all) like the Kamen Rider drawback only locks out stuff from non Kamen Rider Jumps.

>>51845830
Parry will grow stronger as you do. Assuming you're at Sakura to Ryu levels of power, then the nullification part maxes out at Akuma's level of fighting, though Shin or Oni Akuma would go beyond the nullifying limit. It'll still weaken those attacks a lot but it won't no sell them.

You could do it with just perfect parry boosted yeah.

Isn't raised by the Street Fighter really but as said above, you'll be able to block more as you get stronger as compared to Ryu.

Guru can effectively give that sure.

>>51845914
I associate Canadians with locusts. Fucking Canucks in Costco are terrifying.

>>51845915
>That reminds me, you might want to add a 4th option to each jump letting them go straight to the next jump in the series, (for those who roll randomly)

Will do this.

>or switch a later jump for Crusader Kings if not taken (for random rollers who want to do that senario have to do them all in order you have mentioned.)

I figure that people that toss jumps will know better than to toss mid-series jumps. Or at least I hope so.

>Also I cannot remember if the drawback already works this way, but the Out of setting lockout drawbacks should still allow previous jumps in the series stuff to work (since same setting after all) like the Kamen Rider drawback only locks out stuff from non Kamen Rider Jumps.

Will do this.

>>51845429
>how would you guys feel about a drawback quota?
For your "Go Big or Go Home" challenge chain? Great Idea. As a mandatory rule in some jump? Terrible Idea.

>>51845881
Everything's a euphemism. The Moose is a euphemism. The Maple Syrups is a euphemism. The Beavers... well, that one is obviously just about small furry rodents that like to build dams across bodies of water to create a more ideal environment for themselves to hunt and live in. The Beavers were not a euphemism.

>>51845885
You know, I actually did that to Ranma during my years there. Except I threw Mousse in there as well. Strangely enough, the Moose came out on top.

>>51845933
>Spoiler
Never has a greater truth been spoken. I was forced to go in there the week before Canadian Thanksgiving. Never again under any circumstances.

>>51845926
Val, did you meet your... associate at the location?

>>51832863

http://www.webtooninsight.co.kr/Webtoon/Actorinfo/%EC%84%B1%EC%83%81%EC%98%81

Anyone know what the hell 'Life Cry' is?

>>51844438
Some of the drawback seem to give a lot of points for not a lot of problems. Like, the 300 CP shadow drawback doesn't seem like that big a deal without the Forever Neverland drawback. I don't have a shadow, so what?

>>51845968
Oh, right. Shit sorry man. Yeah, Muscle Power won't work on organs and stuff. No matter how much you train your muscles, it won't make your intestines stronger, so it organ stuff won't get the benefit of the durability. Skin/Muscle/Bone does tho.

>>51845956
>You know, I actually did that to Ranma during my years there.
I'd say there's roughly a 60% chance he somehow ended up with the moose as a fiancee.

>>51844438

Okay, a bit of a nitpick here, but in the Coral of Corruption description, you state it produces an "effect within a 64 square acre circle." I'm assuming you mean to describe an area, so:

an acre is already a unit of area equivalent to 43,560 square feet, or a square area roughly 209 feet to a side. if you square an area, you start playing around with 4-dimension space and stuff gets weird.

Since you mention a circle specifically, I would recommend a wording that references a radius or range, something like "produces a continual magical effect on the water within X feet" where X is the furthest away you want the Coral to be able to work.

Assuming you want an area of 64 acres, that radius would be:

A = pi*radius^2 -> radius = sqrt(A/pi)
= sqrt((64*43,560)/3.14ish)
= sqrt(2,787,840/3.14ish)
= sqrt(887,847ish)
= about 942 feet.

So for a circle with an Area of 64 acres, the radius (or X above) will be about 942 feet. You can round that up to 1000 for a nice even number, or choose something else entirely.

>>51845985
Alright, thanks.

The intestines have muscle tho. What about hearts and arteries? I mean, they're trainable and muscular, but not in the same sense as other muscles are.

>>51845985
For the boosted Tandem style, is it more easy to combine energies of similar type?

>>51845977
>Life Cry
A translation of Life Howling?

>>51845985
could specify "skeletal muscle" to remove confusion.

>>51846034
How about- long as you can train those organs in a way possible in the modern world, not by like, relying on magic, then they can benefit from the boost?

>>51846058
Sounds about right.

>>51843481
>A rust monster that makes a successful touch attack with its antennae causes the target metal to corrode, falling to pieces and becoming useless immediately. The touch can destroy up to a 10-foot cube of metal instantly. Magic armor and weapons, and other magic items made of metal, must succeed on a DC 17 Reflex save or be dissolved. The save DC is Constitution-based and includes a +4 racial bonus.

>A metal weapon that deals damage to a rust monster corrodes immediately. Wooden, stone, and other nonmetallic weapons are unaffected.

If you're not some kind of scrub you should make that save no matter what, with only the in jump abilities.

>>51846080
Yes, that is good. The multiverse will soon know the true power of stronk.

>>51846060
Nope. Scroll up, Life Howling is already on that list.

>>51845915
Done this. Anything else? Hoping to do one huge upload of all the paradox jumps tonight.

Error: Upload Failed keeps happening. Point out anything wrong in the past uploads of the jump and I'll fix it, I guess.

>>51846167
>Done this. Anything else? Hoping to do one huge upload of all the paradox jumps tonight.
What other jumps?

>>51846255
All told it'll be

1-Crusader Kings
2-Europa Universalis
3-Victoria 2
4-Hearts of Iron
5-East vs West.

Would it be wrong for me to feel proud of myself?

>>51846080
Just a little curious here:


Heracles says it starts you out lifting a fee hundred tons and is 400 CP. Divine Body says it starts you out comparably strong to a skyscraper sized super angel, which seems like it would be way more than a few hundred tons, and is 200 CP. Am I misunderstanding something here?

>>51845429
It fucking sucked putting up with it in LoT and Warhammer Fantasy. I really can't reccomend doing that to your jump design.

>>51846167
>Anything else?
+100 CP-I’m surrounded by morons
It is unclear of this makes your companions idiots, or your companions are surrounded by idiots as well. You probably mean the latter, because making your companions (with god knows what powers) idiots is not a +100 disadvantage.

+300 CP-Depowered! I would say you still have an (empty) warehouse so you can store stuff for later jumps. Thus is unclear if you have a warehouse with no out of jump items, or no warehouse at all. So it reduced you to Body Mod body, emptied out warehouse, and whatever to have from legacy jumps in the series.

+600 CP-Great defensive war: Not sure about the "cannot be allowed to lose any of its holy places" clause. This is about as bad as the other 600's (with all other religions considering you heretical until you conquer them) without the holy sites clause. Also some religion have way more holy sites than others. I would make it your religion has to be in as good or better condition at jump ending as it was when you began/or a thriving religion, something like that. The holy sites clause if done should say your 'X' most holy sites and maybe be +800.

>>51846318
Heracles will improve over time much quicker then Divine Body would, as Charyeoks get better both as you learn more/bond more with the Charyeok and as you improve in personal power. It IS a little unbalanced yeah but I don't think it's tooo bad since you'll end up reaching the heights of Heracles strength, every bit the same as his mythological strength in this series, much faster then someone with Divine Body would be doing so.

I dunno, I could change Divine Body to be 400 if it's really necessary.

>>51846346
>You probably mean the latter, because making your companions (with god knows what powers) idiots is not a +100 disadvantage.

No, I meant the former. It was meant to just make it difficult to put your plans into place - companions are an easy way to circumvent that.

>+300 CP-Depowered! I would say you still have an (empty) warehouse so you can store stuff for later jumps. Thus is unclear if you have a warehouse with no out of jump items, or no warehouse at all. So it reduced you to Body Mod body, emptied out warehouse, and whatever to have from legacy jumps in the series.


Done.

>Not sure about the "cannot be allowed to lose any of its holy places" clause.

How about "you must have them all at the end of the jump"?

>>51846380
Hey Cena. Hate to be a bother, but could you ask Brutus to put all your connected history game jumps in a folder with each other?
Having to dig all over the drive to find which ones to do in order is a bit troublesome.

>>51846397
Will do. I plan to upload them in a folder.

>>51846167
>Anything else?
Holdings seem like a CP sink if you purchase them. Is is possible to add a 4th category and make one category discounted to each background? Or make the first full price and later ones discounted?

Canon Companions are a bit pricey for non super powered folks, who also have Alpha personality headbutting issues. And the discount has the dreaded 50 CP

>>51846413
I don't think holdings should be discounted. They're already at the prices they should be if you had a discount for them. At the very least I don't think you should be buying city sized castles for under 200cp.

For the Injustice Jump, how do race powers and bought powers stack?
Like say I were to take Czarnian and also buy Extreme Strength in the Powers Section, would they combine or would I just be wasting CP?

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I couldn't find anything on it.

>>51846380
>No, I meant the former. It was meant to just make it difficult to put your plans into place - companions are an easy way to circumvent that.
Which can also be done by when you give instructions to companions/work through the companions, now the companions are having to deal with the morons. 9 people are not going to be running a nation or doing a whole lot by themselves. Plenty of room for the morons to 'shine' while keeping it a +100 CP disadvantage and not a higher level one.

>>51846380
>"you must have them all at the end of the jump"
That works I guess.

>>51845259
Use bayonetta perk to choose breath as your magics medium, it costs like 50 cp.

>>51846367
Nah, was just curious. But that makes sense, Heracles starts lower but grows much faster until it quickly outclasses it.

So would fully realized Heracles be myth-Hercules speedforce-but-with-strength doing anything conceptually related to strength type stuff?

>>51846446
Waste of CP.

>>51846452
Even plans on a micro scale, like plans to assassinate a particularly annoying duke. But I'll change it so you can't do much without non-companions.

>>51846454
Uh...sorry, don't quite understand that. Do you mean the whole, "Hold Up The Sky" thing? We do see him do that in a flashback of sorts.

>>51846446
No. Buying powers that the race comes with is a waste of cp.

>>51846466
>>51846473

>Waste of CP.
Well thats dumb as fuck.

>>51846367
So if you have Divine power can you make a contract with someone and give them a Charyeok?

>>51846470
Yeah I mean stuff like that and how he can punch rivers hard enough to change their direction and all that jazz. Will it just keep growing as you do until you can slug it out with the Monkey King guy who can shatter planets?

>>51846466
People whine when you put the race stuff in powers, whine when you don't. Can't catch a break huh?

>>51846413
>Canon Companions are a bit pricey for non super powered folks, who also have Alpha personality headbutting issues.

Fair, but most superpowered companions in jumps that I do are 400 CP.

>And the discount has the dreaded 50 CP

Which is why there are so many 50 CP discounted buys :^)

>>51846428

Agreed.

>>51846466
Can you buy powers more than once?

>>51846470
What is the actual power level like in this jump? Because from the discussion, it sounds like it literally goes from street level to lolstomping DBZ in the span of one chapter.

>>51846486
Been spendin' most our lives

Livin' in a nerfwhore's paradise

>>51846493
No, that'd make wank too extreme. What's 2x extreme strength? 3x? Do diminishing returns apply or is it all geometric? Not fun stuff tbqh.

>>51846466
>Waste of CP.
What? A stand alone naked perk should work whatever form you are in, in this case increasing your strength by X perk amount.
I think you were asked a trap question here, and you fell into it. Because it is like saying all the other strength perks you have don't make you stronger in an Alt Form like Czarnian's are.

>>51846502
There's many levels, but it does jump up massively towards the end of the first arc when the setting is expanded upon. Only the upper levels are continental/planetary and up (strongest gods, beast kings, Jade Emperor, Taejin???), the majority of the people encountered are far, far below though as of right now.

>>51846484
Well, if you're a Demon or God you can't form a contract with them and share any powers you have from this setting yeah. Just having Divine Power won't cut it since no human has been shown to be able to do the Charyeok deal from the contracted side. And if you want to do out of setting stuff, you'll need the God Point Granter perk.

>>51846485
Uhm. I guess so? I mean he doesn't get much screen time but he does crazy stuff like stopp Ruyi Jingu Bang from expanding just by gripping one end of it. You will grow if you constantly train and work with Heracles but you'll probably only at best equal the Monkey King in his natural state. If Sun Wukong is abusing Limiter Removals, you'd be no competition even once you and Herc max out together.


>>51846502
Um. Almost yeah. The first hundred or so chapters range from captain america levle superhumans to building level destruction to at max, city-island level destruction. After around the hundred mark it leaps from that to continent/planet destruction in about a chapter or two as the Gods start becoming enemies and the main character regains his true power and gear. And the end of the series has two of these planet busting guys start multiplying their power by x250,000 times, one of them eating the entire corona of the sun and possibly, the scene was a teensy bit vague, Sun Wukong making the sun turn off for an instant.

It gets quite crazy.

>>51846532
Okay, fair enough. They can be purchased for their effect in other forms, but their effect in the race you buy is diminished.

I'm like Mitt Romney up in this shit.

Are there any perks that let you sense advanced technology?

>>51846537
Taejin I believe is on that level, at least after he snapped Odin's arm with a kick.

Taejin is best guy, best girl, best everything. Everyone needs more taejin in their lives

>>51846515
>Do diminishing returns apply or is it all geometric
Nobody does diminishing returns and perks should apply to whoever buys them otherwisr you get shit like the underworld jump where it is all a waste of cp.

>>51846541
>Well, if you're a Demon or God you can't form a contract with them
Should be "Can form a contract with them" my bad.

>>51846555
Fair enough.

>>51846541
Oh so Charyeok have a point where they max out and can't grow stronger?

>>51846542
>They can be purchased for their effect in other forms, but their effect in the race you buy is diminished
Most jumps deal with issues like this by giving making some perks free with a certain race (instead of part of the race itself) and then disallowing stacking multiple perk purchases in the jump. So the races abilities are delineated in perks that work in any form, and the alt form just changes how you look, or for stuff like the DNA you have when blood is taken.

I like that approach, keeps things simple.

>>51846575
I more meant that you'll stop growing as fast once you hit what strength Heracles naturally had. The charyeok still grows as your life energy does, it's just that once you hit his natural limit, you won't be growing faster then someone with Divine Power.

>>51846593
hahaha I tried that and everyone got pissed off

Fugg, more "upload failed" errors.

Well, I'm prepping the big upload of all the grand strategy jumps. Any last feedback?

>>51846546
Tech integration/emulating abilities and Star Trek "This shit seems to work on everything" sensors

Other then that, no. You could get stuff to sense specific technologies, like Electrokinesis for electric based stuff, but "Advanced Technology" is a bit meta.

>>51846610
Ah I see. So what purchases would be best for maximum physical strength/speed in the long term?

>>51846541
How long a period of time does the first arc take place over?

>>51846619

>No perks in an of your jumps that can make the invaders lose supplies like in the WIP

>>51846619
People had a problem with how you did it not what you did. Your complete lack of understanding no matter how many times something is explained to you is astounding.

>>51846633
A few months I believe.

>>51846628
Either Divine Power or a Charyeok that gives superhuman physical stats and then training perks to just improve yourself and your ki faster.

>>51846633
Couple weeks, then there's a few months timeskip until they go to the Sage Realm, which is where the power jump happens but it stays there for a bit.

If you don't go there, it'll be a 2 years or so before they come back, but soon after the Gods, the way stronger guys, come to earth to wreck shit.

>>51846647
I think I've found a good place for that in the Hearts of Iron jump.

>>51846541
So Power granting question.
It sounds like when a God or Demon makes a contract to grant power it ties up some of their power while the contract lasts, but not as much as the Charyeok can gain, because the Charyeok uses that seed of power and focuses his own power through it/fuels it with his own power, to get bigger results instead of just using the borrowed power. Right?

>>51846685

All I ask is thatt you don't make it cost a billion cp because I ain't playing as no Godless commie

>>51846700
Yup, that's basically it.

>>51846708
haha, fair enough. 200 CP sound good? I'll post a version in thread before I upload all the jumps.

>>51846685
I have a question about the extreme shapeshifting perk in injustice.
It looks like it's based off of plastic man, but does it work the same way? Because I'm trying to figure out how it functions and if I'm going to be gumby if I take it.

>>51846672
Alright well thanks.

>>51846714
So, you said that Divine Form gives way, way less of a boost to your physicality when you deplete your ki reserves, but does it still give a noticeable boost?

>>51846720

Sounds great man and thanks

>>51846723
>but does it work the same way?

Yup. Shapeshift into forms that are hundreds of feet tall, and into highly sophisticated ones - such as a fully functional bicycle. Become able to stretch in response to nearly all kinetic impacts.

>>51846736
Yeah, the boost will still be there, it's just mostly gone.

>>51846723
Size of a small house is the max. Everything else is fluff. Also a waste of cp.

>>51846744
How big though, someone had a comic snippet of a shapeshifter going world eater huge earlier.

>>51846759
Yeah that was stupid

I can't upload files rn, but 40k square feet sounds right (200x200). That's more the upper end, though.

From Darkstalkers:

>500cp - Blood Magic
>Your physical self is an existence held together by your own will. With this perk, you render your body into a state akin to liquid, like blood, water, ichor, liquid metal and so on. Your blood and body becomes a highly dangerous thing not so much a weapon as a multifunction tool.

Is the "held together by your own will" part just fluff, or will my body dissolve into a pool of blood/ichor/whatever as soon as I go to sleep or fall unconscious?

>>51846744
well that's neat. Guess I'm gonna have to deal with being gumby lite though. How hard would it be to adjust consistancy to not be like that all the time? Also I assume doing color changes is going to be easier than he has it?

>>51846772
You might want to put that in the jump somewhere in the future then. Looks like you could become as huge as you want as is.

>>51846772
Wow. Thats a lot less than the price tag implies.

>>51846746
So... how much would you say remains? 25%? 10%? 5%? 1%?

>>51846803
Probably at max what you get from buying the power at first.

>>51846720
Is this good? Hope it's not underpriced or anything.

>Supply raider-200 CP: Your enemies have long laughed at you and your country due to its underdeveloped state. Lack of infrastructure and large open expanses have made your country quite difficult to govern – but even more difficult to invade. You are a master of the art of stretching your enemy too thin, forcing them to inefficiently use their supplies, and depriving them of those supplies. Whoever the enemy may be, you quite often find a way to engage them under conditions that they are woefully unequipped for. Furthermore, if you should happen to link up with partisan networks or other hidden agents behind enemy lines, they shall be quite effective in destroying and disabling enemy supplies.

>>51846798
>How hard would it be to adjust consistancy to not be like that all the time?

You don't have to be plasticky, but you can be in response to kinematic hits, which reduces their impact.

>You might want to put that in the jump somewhere in the future then.

Will do.

>Also I assume doing color changes is going to be easier than he has it?

Yeah, you'll be more like his kid in that regard.

>>51846801
Size isn't everything.

>>51846714
Do you know how much power of yours it takes to make a contract. Like I am considering empowering someone and then training to get back the the level I was, not planning on getting that power back anytime soon but letting them keep it indefinitely even when I move on to another jump. About how much training am I looking at to regain the written off the power it takes to create a Charyeok before training perks?

Also, one of the Perks is about lineage where you are as strong as the first one in the lineage. So, does that mean most charyeoks don't get their power directly from the source? Can Charyeok's get the power from another Charyeok, or hand down the power they received to a successor?

Can the power I leave behind start a lineage and not disappear when the current holder(s) die off?

>>51846786
>his willpower vanishes when he loses consciousness
Looks at this pussy.

>>51846814
So still strong enough to toss around bigass office buildings?

>>51846814
Alright, thanks.

>>51846823

Make my people under me be able to do it with out my help and it will be perfect.

>>51846823
>Size isn't everything.
Well true, but it's still 800 CP undiscounted. Like, it is actually Plastic Man's whole suite of powers or something?

>>51846880
For 200 CP?

The perk is meant to help you be a better general. Your forces will be able to do all things described there, sure, under your leadership.

>>51846887
Fair enough. It was meant to be his whole suite, but that invalidates most of the other powers, so I'm going to do a price cut.

>>51844466
I've been away grinding at Class Reps and bribing drunk shitheads with candy, but I said that I was looking forward to you chasing me to the 40 jump mark as far as the number count went. Cats and Dog are still leagues ahead of you, Blade.

>>51846838
Erg,h fair warning that I'm having to make a fair bit of this up as I go.

It shouldn't be much but mostly depends on how much you're handing over. I wouldn't say it needs much more then the power of a couple angels or something. As long asyou're pretty well above the average human in power it won't be that big a loss if you're just giving them the basics instead of a super powerful charyeok from the start.

How much training? I have no clue. Probably not too long? It depends a lot on what power level you're at already.

Erm, you seem to have gotten confused. True Descendant makes you a genetic descendant of your Charyeok. This means you can draw out more power from it then most and you can access Powerlenderization mode, which is basically a super mode where you gets lots and lots more power from the Charyeok. The rest of that perk is just an overall power/skill boost like the other power capstones.

Charyeok do get their power from the source, all do, it's just that most aren't descended from them.

Charyeok from another Charyeok? Do you mean Gods and Demons forming contracts with other Gods/Demons to get Charyeok of their own? Yes that's possible.

No, Charyeok cannot be handed down. You need to make the contracts with them yourself.

No.

>>51846864
The power is there to read for your eyes to see anon.

>>51846814
If I take special human and make it to the end, do Taejin and Mori Jin actually want to kill me? Because they're cool ans I'd like to hang out with them after.