Song of Swords: $17,000 Get

Don't forget to vote in the new NPC Army Deck poll!
Link on the kickstarter.

>>51829768
Should include
https://www.reddit.com/r/SongofSwordsRPG/

And the other threads on other sites.

>>51829768
Submitting my tournament character for lore review before I build him.

An Orredin nobleman who, long ago, was a high up in the Imperial army. He commanded, led, advised the Emperor, and was generally a pretty fucking big deal. However, following his retirement, he spent literally centuries throwing debauched orgies and absurd tournaments. By the time he was approached with a request to back a coup against the Emperor, he had forgotten most of the things that had made him valuable to the Empire in the first place. When the coup failed he was shoved off in a pointless position that would never support his way of life. Now (relatively) impoverished and having forgotten most of the things he made his fortune with in the first place, he has done the unthinkable and left Helion to remake his fortune. As it turns out, this involves hand to hand combat in the arena. Oh, well. He fought once, he can fight again.

>someone is trying to argue that maille armor wasn't widely used in europe and is just a meme
Someone give me sources, I need to bludgeon this person.

>>51830066
It's okay. Today, because of For Honor, I had people try to tell me that A) katanas could cut through late-medieval plate B) katanas weren't made of steel, but they couldn't tell me what they were made of, and c) plate was super heavy and made you slow.

>>51830103
>tfw /sos/ has trained an entire generation of realistic arms/armor autists

>>51830066
Literally any medieval illustration. Is this somewhere on /tg/, or a retarded person you know from elsewhere?

Here's a basic overview of the stuff.
https://myarmoury.com/feature_mail.html

Can you point to a museum as your source?

>>51830103
It's all true though
Katanas are the greatest weapon ever made
You can even cut through T-72s with a katana. That's why the USSR didn't invade Japan after WW2

>>51830103
They probably also think that samurai armor was made of wood.

>>51830359
Given that katanas could cut through steel plate, why wouldn't they armor themselves in wood? Arrows get stuck in trees and it's not going to stop a katana anyway
this is bait

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>>51830394

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>>51830405
That said, finding out that they were going with wood armor for the samurai faction really did fricassee my fanny even more than the slightly off armor design itself

>>51830457
Woh. I didn't know wood could rust!

>>51830472
It must be the famous Ironwood!

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>>51830508
Stay beautiful, /sos/

>>51830508
Honorable Wapanese tree, folded ten thousand time. Cut through steel like katanah through tank.

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>>51830582
Obligatory

Daily reminder that if you use anything but a 2H Blunt weapon you deserve what's coming to you

>>51830692
Godendag for life, m8

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Zeyaad Sulakir
Kedouin Raider Captain
26 PCP

Race 1 (Human)
Stats 7 (160)
Profs 8 (21)
Skills 3 (6)
Social 5 (10 GP 2 [W]
B&B 2 (-10)

STR:7 AGI:7 END:6 HET:5
WIT:7 INT:4 WIL:6 PER:6
ADR:6 TOU:6 CHA:8 MOB:9 GRIT:3
Carry: 12
CP: 18
++++++++++++++++++++++++

School: Soldier 10

Polearm: Riposte, Hook [Superior], Disarm [Superior], Hew [Superior], Break [Superior], Simultaneous Parry/Attack

Wrestling: Clnch [Superior], Disarm [Superior], all other Clinch Maneuvers [Superior]

1H Sword: Pommel Strike [Superior], Shield Bind [Superior], Deep Draw Cut, Riposte [Superior],
Murder-Strike, Half-sword, Quickdraw, Shield Bash [Superior], Shield Beat [Superior], Simultaneous Parry/Attack [Superior], Beat [Superior], Disarm [Superior], Hilt Push [Superior], Push Cut [Superior]

Throw: Fling

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Skills:
Strategy 2
Tactics 2
Drill 1
Ride 4
Navigation 1

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Banes:
Wanted (10), Technologically Impaired (5), Honorable (15)

Boons:
Natural Leader (3), Natural Born Killer (12), True Grit (4), Languages (1, Karthacki)

++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>51830828

Heavy Backsword: 1H Sword | L | STN: 7(+2c) | TTN: 8(+1p) | DTN: 8(3) | Wt: .5 20 sp

Khyber Knife: Dagger/1H Sword | S | STN: 7(+0c) | TTN: 7(+1p) | DTN: 7(2) | Draw 4*, Thin Blade | Wt: 0 | Custom Gripx2, Custom Hilt, Ridiculously Sharp, Fine Forgingx2 5 sp

Ge: Spear/Polearm | VL | STN: 7(+3c) | TTN: 7(+2p) | DTN: 7(0) | AP Strike 1, Heavy Weapon, Hook | Wt: 5 | Ridiculously Sharp, Fine Forgingx3 5 sp

Light Javelin: Thrown | Range: 15 | MTN: 7 | +2p | Catch 5/10 | Wt: 0 | 1 sp

Rodela: Bash: 8(+0b) | Block: 7 | AV: 8 | Hand, Forearm, Elbow, Upper Arm,
Chest, Side | Wt: 1 | 10 sp

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Eastern Conical Helm (Morion): 8/7/6 | Lower Head*, Upper Head | Hard, +1 Vs Downward swings | Wt: 1 | PP: 0 | Intimidating Crest, Identifying Crest 52 sp

Mail Ventail: 6/4/3 | Face | Hard, Mail, Layer 1 | Wt: 1 | PP: -1 | 2 sp
Padded Ventail: 2/3/4 | Face | Textile | Wt: 0 | PP: -1 | 1 cp

Mail Camail: 6/4/3 | Lower Head, Neck, Shoulders | Hard, Mail, Layer 1 | Wt: 1 | 4 sp
Padded Camail: 2/3/4 | Lower Head, Neck, Shoulders | Textile | Wt: 0 | 8 cp

Heartguard: 8/7/6 | Chest? | Hard | Wt .5 | 1 sp
Mail Shirt: 6/4/3 | Full Torso, Groin, Hips, Thighs | Hard, Mail, Layer 1 | Wt: 1.5 | 20 sp
Heavy Quilted Coat: 3/4/5 | Full Torso, Shoulders, Groin, Hips, Thighs, Knees | Textile | Wt: 1 | 5 sp

Spaulders: 8/7/6 | Shoulders?, Upper Arms? | Hard, ½ AV vs thrusts | Wt: .5 | 6 sp
Mail Sleeves: 6/4/3 | Shoulders, Upper Arms, Elbows, Forearms | Hard, Mail, Layer 1 | Wt: 1.5 | 20 sp
Leather Lam. Sleeves: 3/4/3 | Shoulders, Upper Arms, Elbows, Forearms | Wt: 0 | 3 sp
Hard Leather Gloves: 4/3/3 | Hands | Wt: 0 | 2 sp

Mail Groin Gusset: 6/4/3 | Groin | Hard, Mail, Layer 1 | Wt: 0 | 3 sp
Hard Leather Cuisses: 4/3/3 | Hips, Thighs | Wt: 0 | 8 cp
Hard Leather Knees: 4/3/3 | Knees | Wt: 0 | 6 cp
Greaves: 8/7/6 | Shins | Hard | Wt: 1.5 | 6 sp
Hard Leather Boots: 4/3/3 | Feet | Wt: 0 | 3 sp

Total weight 11/15.5
8 gp 19 sp a few cp spent

>>51830849
>>51830828
Crap, I forgot Talents.

Brigade upvote this shit for exposure:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryCharacters/comments/5v9vvm/sarah_gizka_from_the_song_of_swords_rpg/

The character art is good, we should tap it.

>>51830868
>there doesn't seem to be anything here
Nice link.

>>51830828
>>51830849
Keep in mind that while you may have javelins, you will not be in a Bystander phase. You'll have to wield them as a melee weapon and Weapon Throw.

>>51830930
That's mainly for flavor. I almost went through and statted out a camel as well, but that I'm lazy.

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Rosalie Azevedo, Pretty Knave

Race: Human (1)
Att: 140 (6)
Skills: 15 (6)
Profs: 15 (6)
Wealth: Poor Freeman - 3g (3)
Boons: 0 (4)
26/26 CRP

Money: 13s 5c
CP: 14
MP: 8
CAR: lol cloth/10

STR 3 AGI 8 HT 4 END 5
WIT 8 WIL 5 PER 7 INT 4
ADR 7 TOU 4 CHA 10 GRIT 3 CAR 10

Profs: Self Taught [Blind-Toss] Level 8
Firearms (+0)
1H Swords (-1)
Daggers (-1)

Talents:
Accuracy (N)
Specialist: Disarm (N)
Infighter (J)
Stepping Parry (J)

Skills:
Athletics: 2
Navigation: 1
Observation: 1
Stealth: 2
Persuasion: 3
Subterfuge: 5

Weapons:
Rapier (Sword) 1H/ M/ 6(-1c/+0p)/ 7(3) Fluid Thrusts, Thin Blade .5WT - 30sp
Main Gauche (Dagger) 1H/HA/ 7(-1c/+0p)/ 6(3) Companion, Light Blade 0WT - 3sp

Armor:
Cloth Coat (Exquisite 600% [Naval Officer]) 1/1/1 Textile, Full Torso, Groin, Hip, Knees, Shoulders, Thighs 1s
Cloth Everything Else: 1/1/1 Textile, Hand, Elbow, Forearm, Upper Arm, Shins - 5cp
Leather Boots: 3/2/2 Feet - 1s

Misc Items:
Matchlock Pistol (Won’t be used) 10s 6c
Ballx20 2c
Matchcordx3feet 3c
Gunpowderx1lb 5c

Boons & Banes (0):
Ambidextrous (3)
Beautiful (3)
NBK (6)
Allies (1)
Languages [not!Portuguese] (1)
Favor (1)
Hale and Heartyx2 (SC)
Craven (-7)
Short (-8)
Complete Monster (-10)

Arc Goals:
Epic - Sink the Rosalie’s Love
Glory - Getting Away with It
Flaw - Compulsive Liar


Anyone wanna take bets on how long she'll live?

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Reposting tournament character

German Longsword Jobber
Saga Arc: Win the tournament
Epic Arc: Train the next generation of warriors
Belief Arc: Children must surpass their parents
Glory Arc: Earn fame as the mentor of the greatest fighters
Flaw Arc: Risks injury, death, and worse by intentionally fighting strong opponents while at a low level; so convinced is he that his technical approach is the best

>>51830977
This girl scares me.

>>51830996
Where does this sheet come from, anyway?

>>51831011
It's my personal sheet that I made after getting tired of doing text sheets like this >>51830977

>will you release it
No
>why
It's not complete

>>51831116
I mean, I certainly have an Excel sheet of my own device but I figured I'd step in line with the crowd.

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http://paste2.org/B1hwmz8d
Reposting due to thread dying.

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>>51831239

>>51830881
That's the comments. The actual thread is there, but nobody has commented on it yet.

>>51830868
>>51830881
Worked in Chrome, but not Firefox? Reddit is fucking garbage.

Anyways, here's the link. Let me know if this one works or if my tendies level is too high to do this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryCharacters/comments/5va215/sarah_gizka_from_the_song_of_swords_rpg/

>>51831349
>doesn't show up on the "new" list for the sub
uh

>Looking at other kickstarters
Ahh, nothing like a tall glass of whitepill in the evening.

>>51830977
She will live for about 10 seconds before I burn her as a witch for having no Faith arc

With AGI 8 and WIT 8, her ADR is 8, not 7.

>>51831421
>if I compare myself to failures and idiots, I feel good
You are better than them. Your product is better, your design is better, and your marketbase is better. The only thing holding you back is marketing, and many of the other ones you're looking at probably sucked there even worse. Comparing yourself to them is like comparing your house to a homeless man. Sure, it puts things in perspective, but it's only one half of the perspective. Also compare your house to the Sun King, and realize that in fact the successes and failures of others are so broad as to be functionally irrelevant to your own situation. Then, armed with that knowledge, set high goals for yourself and strive to attain them. If you have reached your goals, they were not high enough and you need new ones. If you fail to reach your goals, then you have at least drawn closer to them than if you hadn't tried.

tl;dr: Make some more promotional threads on various forums. Good ones, ideally, ones situated to receive plenty of traffic. Hell, at least get a form intro for things like http://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?35499-KICKSTARTER-The-RPGsite-Thread-for-Information-About-Kickstarter-Projects

>>51831421
>>51831505
Speaking of this, how is the RPG.net Q&A, or whatever you have planned, going to go down? You're going to have to go there some time.

And any news on the Adventure? How much it will cost, what it might entail, when you're going to talk about it, anything?

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>>51831377
Well, shit. Seems I got shadow banned for spamming (deleting my old post, reposting). Will talk to the moderators and maybe repost tomorrow.

Posting the sweet art to the Imaginary Network and what not will get us those sweet, sweet Gamemaster pledges.

Characters currently submitted to the tournament:
1) Jean-Grant de Saint Colere, Failed Revolt Leader
2) Kal Desar, Karthacki Footsman
3) Zeyaad Sulakir, Kedouin Raider Captain
4) Rosalie Azevedo, Pretty Knave
5) German Longsword Jobber, Jobber

If you've submitted one and I haven't seen it, post it again!
If you're still working on your character, keep at it, and submit it when you're done!

Remember that your characters should be actual characters, and certainly need to have their Arcs filled out.
Your Saga Arc can be as simple as "Win the tournament."

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>Looking at other kickstarters
So we're aiming for 900% funding, right?

>>51831571
Those are the very top. Dont be ridiculous.

Honestly you should participate in the off-site threads if you wanna see it do it better

>>51830849
>>51830828
http://paste2.org/M2OsNVeD

Now with Arcs and Talents!

>>51831587
>Those are the very top.
Song of Swords should be too.

>you should participate in the off-site threads
What makes you think I haven't been? Hell, I've got the most recent post in several of them. But there's only so much you can do before it's spam, I'm not a dev and don't even know the system that well compared to a lot of other folks here, and the threads are mostly not well-situated to get attention in the first place.

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UNFRIENDLY REMINDER

On the subject of promoting the game
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/song-of-swords-rpg-now-on-kickstarter.494800/
Somebody with a proper account (has an avatar, at the very least) go post something in this thread, ideally something a bit intelligent, to bump it.

Also Jimmy, some kind of breakdown on which sites are routing in backers would help volunteer shills.

>>51831488
I knew I shouldn't do things after work. I am pretty sure her AGI is 7,not 8. I will confirm in the morning when I am not a corpse.

Complete Monster removes the Belief Arc, though.

>>51831841
>Complete Monster removes the Belief Arc, though.
You're right!

>>51831699
Right now this place and Reddit are our big sellers, and while a lot of the people posting on plebbit are our people, a very significant number of people seem to back us from there, suggesting that they don't post, but they do read what we post, and then decide we're worth funding.

I think this is going to be a repeating thing, people don't know what questions to ask and they don't know how to start broaching the subject of the game, but if they see/hear things they like, they might want it anyway. Reddit has hueg potential.

Ah, my oldest gripe with SoS:
Wanting to make a balanced suite of skills, but the Skills-per-PCP ratio being the rankest of ass.

Frankly, guys, if you fixed skills at chargen, you wouldn't need to have buffed CHA's determination.

>>51831897
Here and reddit are given, though, since they're the only sites we've had high-profile threads on. What about the other ones?

I have this idea of doing a roll20 game where it's a fecht like

All the players are playing 1 character that's carted around with a track of choices like the old John Galt fecht threads.

Something to celebrate the recent luck with the KS.

I was thinking of making it a weekly thing, hosted on several dates and times to accommodate multiple parties. The games would range from a wide host of different time periods, genres, and subject matter with diverse character pools to chose from.

>>51831909
Skill packets don't exist anymore do they?

We've finally hit $18k

>>51831930
Not at present, no.

>>51831930
Well fuck that, they're supposed to

>>51831968
For all of 1.9.9 we've been doing homebrew skill packets. Choose five skills, pay three. That's how I made my character for the Tournament.

>>51831984
NOT IN THE RULES
REEEEEEEEE

>>51831968
Skill packets are a dumb notion anyways. They need to be replaced with something better, but removing them isn't a bad thing in itself.

>>51831968
They didn't address the core problem adequately for as much as they bloated the rules.
They encouraged diverse skill acquisitions, sure, but at the end of the day no character came out of the box more than merely competent in anything.

>>51831989
Fuck off. Making a character who isn't completely incompetent is impossible without them as it is. They're back in Ballad, they were admitted to only be left out of 1.9.9 as an editing mistake, and Jimmy himself suggested the 5 for 3 system. They're part of the rules.

>>51832028
Unless the tournament master says so, it's kind of a moot point, mate.

>>51832039
Not that the tournament will use them for anything.

>>51832026
There was a time when people received extra Skill points from Intelligence. I still use that rule in my own games, on top of Packets. That helps some, but it's only a bandaid on skills being so hard to come by.

>>51832068
Pretty sure that's still in there.

>>51832074
Holy fuck it is. It should be listed along with the Intelligence stat as well, not just way down in Skills.

>>51831897
Can you respond to this post?
>>>51824317

Shouldn't skills be a function of age? I mean, that's basically how it is in real life, intelligence can impact it a bit but the normal human variation in skills due to intelligence is much smaller than the variation in skills due to age.

>>51832117
But also quality of training, access to education, and personal motivation.
Which is why it's just a general category in chargen.

>>51832117
>an old man who fucked around all his life should have more skills than a young man who has dedicated himself to learning/training

>>51832099
I'm ok with him not responding.

>>51831421
You are probably busy with video stuff and shit, but can you answer the king and firearm question on lelddit and rpgnet?

>>51832135
>quality of training,
True, that goes along with intelligence as a modifier on, essentially, the speed of acquisition. That too, I would say, is comparatively minor.

>access to education, and personal motivation.
Those have more to do with which skills than with the quantity or magnitude of the skills. People spend their lives learning stuff, and generally stuff that's relevant to their lives.

>>51832147
>implying otherwise
Have you ever met an old man who fucked around all his life? Fucking around is actually way more conducive to quantity of skills than just getting one job, one routine, and sticking with it. But even old people who've lived like that acquire skills from their daily and personal life, from hobbies, from all sorts of things, not to speak of the extreme expertise that arises in profession-relevant skills.

>>51832166
I'm trying on the rpg.net, but it's doing something weird where it isn't recognizing my space bar hits. wtf is with this site?

>>51832212
Are you sure it's not just your keyboard?

>>51832207
Age is a way more fucky PCP category than simple skills indicating quality of education and personal training. You are right, in that older people would have more experience doing a variety of shit, but older and more experienced people would have more PCP anyway.

>>51832212
Alt+32 should do it.

>>51832207
Alright, I'll put it this way
>40 year old mailman who has been living a rather dull middle class life and pursued no greater endeavor, being largely content to consume media in his spare time
>knows how to drive, how to cook, and talk to people and is comfortably furnished

>25 year old doctoral student who practices HEMA in his spare time and has gone on several internation trips during his breaks
>has a significant complement of skills, fighting proficiency, several boons, but is also under a mountain of debt

Imagine a dozen other such anecdotes.
Argue against or for the Int bonus, sure, but trying to tabulate age is plainly infeasible. It's the experience that matters, and yes, generally older people will have more, but that doesn't matter as much for character creation.

>>51832207
Most old people don't know shit because most people don't have the dedication to truly learn skills to a great extent.

You don't know what you're talking about and should hang yourself before your stupidity affects others.

see >>51832271

>>51832271
>how to cook, and talk to people
These are actually pretty big deals.

Also, my mailman knows how to build canoes from scratch, and he fits your description. Just because people don't rail off a laundry list of their eccentricities at the drop of a hat doesn't mean they're not remarkable.

>25 year old doctoral student who practices HEMA in his spare time and has gone on several internation trips during his breaks
His skills are
1. Pretty good in the theory of one discipline, will get better and gain practical skill over time.
2. Dabbling skills, more than a layman but not enough to be useful, in several "elective" disciplines
3. Fights passing well in a dead discipline
4. Really fucking good at writing essays, probably.
5. Knows how to use trains, planes, and/or automobiles

I feel like you probably could have stacked the deck even more, but the fact is that 25 year old will eventually get older, he'll get a job doing things people see every day, and he'll eventually learn enough shit that something like HEMA or taking a dew vacations will no longer even cross his mind as something that constitutes a skill.

>>51832331
None of this changes the fact that this is impossible to make into a decently balanced character creation system based on PCP.

Does the winner of the tournament have the right to nominate another's character to the game instead of their own if they like them more?

>>51832501
Sure! Of course it relies on the generous anon offering his Visionary Noble PLUS+ slot up for it, but sure.

Gonna try to make a Ge user for the big fight, might take a few days though.

>>51829889
You may choose the Orredin race but can't use any of its magic auto-win spells.

>>51829889
>>51832688
Yeah, none of the Orredin's kekkei genkai

>>51832565
Don't be afraid to ask for help or drop by the Roll20 to for some practice fechten

>>51832697
gesundheit

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>>51826761
>>51826676
Damn it Jimmy we've seen ones labelled up to 771, what's the deal?

>>51832855
He's holding out on us. I'm cancelling my pledge until we get the REAL folder.

>>51832855
>Releasing everything at once
Come on dude.

GURPSfag here, just wanted to say best of luck to you all and your system development. Played RoS and had good fun, even though it didn't turn into a lasting thing for my group.

Good luck to you, and good gaming!

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How cruel that the kickstarter starts when I have no money.

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>>51827215
>tfw can't post backer number because transferring the remaining 50 bucks to the prepaid cc is STILL NOT FUCKING DONE
JUST
KILL
ME
NOW
I was there when the KS was still under 10 backers man.

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>>51832855
Oh shit there's actually 354 Items right now, a bunch are just labelled the same.

>>51833079
how can one not have $15 to spare. If you're that poor, go rob someone. Use what you've learned from SoS combat. I'm sure it'll work out.

>>51833096
>tfw fucked by banks and credit agencies
There is literally no worse feel bro.

>>51833191
You can beat that with one easy trick: become a drug dealer.

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>>51833344
I'm being fucked by them being slow as shit right now or maybe by the policy of the prepaid CC company. Either way having more money in cash would not really help me. Well, I guess I could send it in an envelope to jimjam including a nice little letter including which backer tier I want. Maybe that would actually be faster.

>>51833439
>March 20th
>the Song of Swords KS has just closed
>Anon gets a message from his CC company
>'We've transferred the $50 to your prepaid card.'

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definitively going for visionary noble+ (as soon as I can conjure some cash).
Now the question is, stroke my ego and make a wizard of dark drinks or insert Zellmurhaja?

>>51833344
The crazy thing is they probably think he's a drug dealer, who needs 50 extra dollars on their pre-paid credit card NOW?

>>51833491
They're gone Coffee, they've all been bought.

>>51833491
Zellmurhaja of course

>>51833491
>definitively going for visionary noble+
but they're all gone.

>>51833491
I have a Visionary Noble I can pass on to you if things look dire - I'd rather give it to someone who is more native to these threads then I am. Hopefully you'll be able to snag one though, or convince Jimmy to open a few more slots at a time convenient to you.

>>51833439
Good luck, anon.

>>51833546
>I'd rather give it to someone who is more native to these threads then I am.
Don't be stupid. You paid for it motherfucker, and this isn't some secret club. Plus Coffee's stuff is already canon, in spirit.
>or convince Jimmy to open a few more slots at a time convenient to you.
Unfortunately he probably won't. Each slot is a person they need to spend time working with.

>>51833564
Oh yea was supposed to mention: It might actually be that if you add a thrusting spike to a ge it actually becomes a ji(halberd), maybe

>>51833564
that's a guisarme

$18,000 get

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>>51833518
>>51833496
such is life in the zone.
>>51833546
Nah, bro. You spent your cash, you deserve it.


Maybe I can get special treatment if I promise Jimmy my Romehole...

>>51833734
it's a glaive-guisarme. ...or a guisarme-glaive. or something.

>>51833873
Bill-de-spetum guisarme-voulge.

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I wasn't gonna do it, but this tournament's got me a bit excited. Time to create a mascot to represent my group while reading up on the lore a bit more

>>51833810
Join the tournament with zellmurhaja!

>>51834098
Ah I aint got time, actually.
But I would love it if someone did run with him.

>>51833810
If you or someone else wrote up the character they could be entered into the tournament of Conon.

>>51834168
I have honestly not been keeping up with the newest rules. I have been waiting for the final version, so if anyone really WANTS to make him they'll have my blessing/support.

>>51831570
I really hope Jobber wins this time.

Does PCP limitation also limit your maximum ranks in attributes? Would a gritty power setting only allow a max of 6 STR, for example?

Hey, are all of the Burdinadin equipment allowed? Electrified weapons seem like they might be a bit too good.

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>>51834548
No, it's 8+any racial modifiers

>>51834607
Gotcha, thanks. No idea how I missed that

What the fuck is going on. I'm gone for couple of months, and this is what I come back to?

>>51834844
The happening happened

Wait, wealth/status is one category, so the limits of the campaingtype apply to it. Meaning none of the current campaing types allow you to play a minor noble with minor noble ammounts of money?

>>51835074
Huh? All of them let you be a minor noble, no?

>>51835074
Even the grittiest campaign settings allow you to start as a Minor Noble. I bet you could even start as an exiled nobleman with almost no money or something too, given the abnormal social class rules

>>51835114
>>51835128
Don't you have to pay for the social class and money separately, from the pool of points you put into the category?

>>51832565
Another Ge user?

Fun.

>>51833041
Thanks.

>>51835143
No. The standard PCP costs are what kind of social standing AND wealth you start with. A standard freeman will cost 4 PCP and give you freemen benefits and wealth.

If you wanted to be, for instance, a peasant that somehow found a metric ton of gold (100 gp, same as a minor noble), you add the PCP costs for each, then divide by two, rounding up. (Peasant is 2, Minor Noble is 6, you pay 4 PCP to roll with what you came up with)

Although of course, those abnormal situations will require GM approval

>>51835174
Thank you master of this game.

>>51835169
There was already one Ge user? who? I haven't checked the competition yet.

>>51835241
See.
>>51830828
>>51830849

>Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.
FUCK YOU

>>51835326
Does the master talent spear that fucked your mom double the effect of novice talent slowboner?

>>51835467
The tournament rules say to use the equipment and grappling updates. I assume this means "grappling ver oct 2015.pdf"?

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>>51831570
Nekane One-Eye
http://paste2.org/wyb2bFK8

>>51835538
That didn't answer his question.

>>51835555
Nice digits, and it wasn't meant to. I accidentally replied to him, by forgetting to delete his post number from my post. I'll just go with no as the answer though, as NTR is a niche fetish and anon probably isn't a degenerate Though it seems he likes spam

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>>51835467
To state the question more clearly, how do the Talents in pic related interact? What happens if I have both?

>>51835663
If you have both, and are at LL range and the enemy makes a S range attack at you, they would have to pay 11d ((5+5)+1) in range, before allocating any dice at all. Slowpoke adds after the final calculation, while SPS is used during.

>>51835663
Is "Range Cost" and "Total Range Cost" different things?

>>51835694
Seems so.

>>51832047
You say that now.

>>51835960
A skilless murder-freak is much harder to put in the setting mind

>>51835538
Yes.

>>51831570
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZKdUcNXInwWCnx1-qzptdxpRp8EbmwdjsjQcFask-M8/edit?usp=sharing

Rosalie has been edited and saved from my own late-night incompetence! New and improved with a list of maneuvers with Poor Form and she actually has NBK applied to her combat pool now.

>>51835972
Hopefully someone can figure out a way to put Engineering to good use in the tournament. I would also say Chymistry, but alas...

"When Maneuvers in a Bout resolve, all Maneuvers made with Initiative resolve in the reverse
order that they were declared"
I'm new to this, what the hell is this?

>>51835701
No, note that "total" isn't capitalized. That means the word isn't part of the term "range cost" it's just an adjective being used for clarification purposes.

>>51836349
That's more of when there's more than two people in a bout. Lets say A and B are in the same side ganging up on C.

A and B go Red, and C goes defensive, and thus, both hold initiative over him.

You usually declare maneuvers with initiative starting by those with less ADR. This means that the one with higher ADR can predict what the others will do, and act upon it.

So, B has less ADR than A, so he declares a 7d thrust on C's neck. A, now aware of what his buddy is doing, declares a 5d Downwards Head Swing. Doesn't matter what C will do.

Here we come upon what you're quoting. We resolve maneuvers in the reverse order in which they were declared, that is to say, that the fighters with high ADR act first. So, A actually strikes the first blow instead of B.

>>51836466
Ah, thanks.

>>51836058
Maybe it will just so happen that the tournament will be held over a field of gunpowder

Any experienced player feel like coming into the roll20 and having a look at my character before I submit it to the tourney?

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>>51836058
>no helmet

What's SoS like when compared to Blade of the Iron Throne? I like Blade, even though I have some annoyances with the rules and the book feels like a bit of a mess at times. Is SoS just a more complex version?

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There's enough data points to generate a proper projection now. We're looking at a low-ball of $50k assuming a typical amount of groundswell. I don't think we actually have a typical amount of groundswell though, I think we had a lot of front-load from existing fans. Barring some big media coverage, far in excess of what we've seen so far, my math puts us at only like $45k, we'd be lucky to hit the projection's lower bound. The $95k isn't going to happen without Jimmy and friends making some major pushes way beyond their current efforts anywhere but here and reddit.

>>51838896
Although it's more accurate than the trend, I still wouldn't put much stock in the projection until about halfway through.

>>51838956
Yeah, that's why I included all that stuff to the right of the image.

>>51838983
It would be great if some gawker site wanted to interview you or something.

>>51838966
I wouldn't put much stock in that until about halfway through either.

>>51838503
Well... I suppose we're a little more complicated in the sense of we have more options at any one time.

But we also have less erroneous bullshit getting in the way, it's all about how the fighters are going at it and that's what make it so mechanically joyful.

>>51838983
Make some fucking threads on major subforums of heavily populated RPG forums. Like, TRO on RPG.net, where's that Q&A? And there's still no fucking announcement here: http://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?35499-KICKSTARTER-The-RPGsite-Thread-for-Information-About-Kickstarter-Projects

Like, just slap the banner image from the kickstarter and give an overview. You're the one on PR since Jimmy's been falling asleep at the wheel and claymore, bless his heart, isn't that good at it.

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>>51839016
>>51839016
It really, really, really wouldn't.

>>51839068
Whether you approve of their journalism or not, they would be a huge traffic booster.

>>51839016
>>51839062

>>51839016
>>51838896

Sorry reposting. My autocorrect ran havoc on that original.

But yeah, claymore took the day off work to follow up with blogs. We would need some prominent featuring from Kickstarter or coverage on bigger sites like gnomestew, geek nation, etc. I have numbers for how many click throughs we get from any given website. We'd need to get somewhere big to reflect anything like that trendline.

That being said we want to get this video for combat out before we push too hard. But by the end of the week/Monday I expect we'll have made hard pushes on the important sites. Will make sure it's communicated when we do.

>>51839108
That was me. Apparently mobile posting isn't my thing today.

>>51839108
You should have done it by the end of last week to be quite honest with you.

>>51839068
Even bad press from they would be good as they are so polarising, still I think they'd love the short brown woman being the "Poster Girl" of the game.

>>51829768
Is Kickstarter down for anyone else, cannot make pledge

>>51839219
Never mind, its working now

>>51839219
Working for me, but it looks like someone just un-backed it.

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http://paste2.org/997WcWB6

Put me in the tournament, boyos

>>51839068
>good journalism is agreeable journalism
That's a really dumb image.

Good journalism would be closer to "Diversity or History? The Problem Facing [Developer]". Which would then delve into the debate and the various merits of forsaking history for diversity and vice versa.

Somebody bump this:
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/song-of-swords-rpg-now-on-kickstarter.494800/
It was getting actual locals interested when it was on the front page.

>>51839251
Eh, it was the first one I found. The image on the left, though, was absolutely what the headline was. I remember Kotaku running multiple hit pieces on that game. I could see Jimmy being like Daniel Vavra and giving no fucks in response.

>>51838339
Real men fight with their skill, not their equipment.

>>51839307
Jimmy isn't that brave, which is understandable. He'd say something diplomatic and vague while using arguments any moderate opposition would find convincing. He wouldn't gain any reputation from it, though.

Not that he'd ever have that problem. The setting wards it off by not boiling down to central Europe.

>>51839219
Short brown woman who dresses in drag.

Jimmy should post some stories to writing forums too. Setting-relevant stories with the kickstarter mentioned. Since, y'know, he's not posting much else.

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>>51839307
I don't see how it could come up, on paper SoS is actually super diverse and pretty PC, it's only upon getting to know Jimmy that one realizes he's more like Pic Related than Joaquin Phoenix.

>>51839728
But none of us are going to do anything to publicise that fact, ARE WE?

>>51839728
It would be hilarious seeing some San Fran Hipster go into it thinking "This setting is super diverse! Wow, so many People of Color! Uh, that sure is a lot of rules. Goodness, this game's violent. What's a Sepsis? This guy actually LIKES religion? He thinks WHAT about Communists??"

But nah, Old Gawker's a rotting corpse, SoS doesn't need any publicity/controversy from them.

Now Wil Wheaton's tabletop channel would be fucking hilarious...

>>51839801
Nah, I mean, he only ever snaps when people bring up le communism while he's drunk, and he said he quit, so unless he's celebrating and ends up on the wrong reddit we should be fine.

>>51839849
> SoS doesn't need any publicity
get out

>>51839863
>SoS gets unexpectedly huge coverage
>500K or some ridiculous shit
>Galt returns from Mexico and is torn between euphoria and rage
>Jimmy falls off the wagon celebrating with the team
>While blind-pissed he somehow composes an incredibly eloquent let horribly offensive email to every Kickstarter backer
>A 500 word tirade on commies and Californians, fuelled by rage and slipping in and out of Latin Jimmy kills SoS single handedly
>A thousand tears are wept

>>51839939
>Calls the pope, leaves sedevacantist hate message on his machine
>Excommunicated

>>51839902
Nice strawman. I said they don't need publicity from the remnants of Gawker.

>>51839389
Pardon?

>>51839987
There is no bad publicity, especially from a high traffic site. Your personal opinion doesn't matter as it's a fact it would generate a lot of interest.

>>51840030
I think that was meant for me.
>>51839219

>>51840098
Christ
>>51839164
even.

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>>51839939
>>51839980

>>51839939
>A 500 word tirade on commies and Californians, fuelled by rage and slipping in and out of Latin
Man, if I got that email I'd double my contribution.

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Here's a shot of perspective.

Also, looks like Greg Stolze is writing a book.

So how does SoS get Kickstarter's good-boy spot?

>>51840279
>>51840329

Should we be spamming their customer service hotlines or what? How do we get Jimmy a blue top-boy button?

>>51831570
I am current writing up a couple characters.
The actual tournament character is going to be a glade expeditionary trooper sent out to find my actual character for the canonization spot,
a burd who was set to spy on Dace, but went silent after a few years, having gone subversive.

>>51840507
>>51840329
We probably can't, they'll just decide upon it if the KS goes well. I'm about to go fug around on Reddit soon, so maybe we can make a difference there.

>>51831570
How long do we have?

I have little experience but wanna join in to learn more stuff anyway

>>51831570
Can we submit multiple characters?

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Submitting a second character, seeing as how we did it in the first tourney anyway. If it's decided against, I'll withdraw my Kal. This gut seems like more an actual character, rather than a faceless Karthack.

Gunther Alder, Kasel Mercenary, Knightly Aspirant
Race: Human(1)
Att: 160 (7)
Skills: 6 (3)
Profs: 18 (7)
Wealth: High Freeman (5)
Boons: -5 (3)
26/26 CRP

Money: 6cp
CP: 18/16
MP: 8
FR: 2x (2 Fatigue Per Round)
CAR: 11.5/12

Saga: Survive
Epic: Become Exalted among Men
Belief: Genosian Chivalry
Glory: Exaltation in Combat
Flaw: Proud

STR 8 AGI 8 HT 4 END 6
WIL 6 WIT 8 INT 4 PER 6
ADR 8 TOU 6 CHA 9 MOB 10 GRIT 6 CAR 12

Profs:
Noble School Level 8 10gp
Polearm (+2) Poleaxe
1H Sword (+0)
Pistol (+0)
Grappling (+0)

Talents:
Flourishing Drills [N]
Good Form: Hiltpush [N]
In-Fighter [N]
Good Form: Hook [J]
Head Guard [J]
Ironwall [J]

Skills:
Craft: Carpentry 3
Observation 3
Drill 4

Weapons:
Poleaxe with Custom Tight Grip 2, Fine Forged 2, Reverse Spike 2H L 7(+2c) 7(+2p) 7(0) AP Swing 1, AP Thrust 1, Heavy Weapon, Shock 2, Reverse Spike, Tight Grip 2, Thin Blade 5WT 24sp,6cp
Langes Messer 1sp

Armor:
Kettle Helm 8 7 6 Lower Head*, Upper Head Hard, No AV vs Upward Swings 0 0 3 sp
Bevor 8 7 6 Faceϕ*, Lower Head, Neck Restricts Breathing 1, Hard 2 0 12 sp
Cuirass 8 7 6 Belly, Chest, Lower Back, Side, Upper Back Hard 2.5 2 gp
Fauld 8 7 6 Groinϕ, Hipϕ, Thighsϕ Hard, Layers 2 (Groin, Hip, Thighs) 1.5 10 sp
Spaulders 8 7 6 Shoulderϕ, Upper Armϕ* Hard, Provides half AV against Thrust attacks to the Shoulder and Upper Arm 0.5 6 sp
Couters 8 7 6 Elbowϕ Hard 1 5 sp
Vambraces 8 7 6 Forearm Hard 1 5 sp
Gauntlets 8 7 6 Handϕ Hard 2 5 sp
Leather Leggings 3 2 2 Groin, Hip, Knees, Shins, Thighs - 0 2 sp
Leather Boots 3 2 2 Feet - 0 1 sp

Boons & Banes (-5):
Honorable; Genosian Chivalry (-15)
Blood Thristy (4)
True Grit (6)

>>51841078
Shit, I already made mistakes, MOB should be 11, and, the Polearm prof should be 2H Blunt.

I'm bad at proofreading.

>>51831621

Sounds like waifu material to me.

>>51840836
Yes, so long as they're each individually good characters. Don't give me two 5s if you can give me one 10.

>>51840807
I'm thinking we'll begin the fights this Friday and continue through the weekend.

>>51841229
The only reason I don't want a Gizka dakimakura is that Jimmy would insist that it would be be filled with rats.

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>>51841515
>tfw no king daki

>>51841554
King dakimakura would be filled with muscle and sex, a far better choice for everyone, and it wouldn't affect the health inspection grading of the restaurants you visit with it.

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I've got a question for the devs

In 1.9.9, it says armor gets +4 AV against unarmed attacks

In the equipment update and Latex version, it doesn't say that

Which is it?

>>51841751
>it wouldn't affect the health inspection grading of the restaurants you visit with it

You aren't having the right kind of sex.

>>51841515
And that's supposed to be a bad thing? Fuck off Mizzick.

>>51841751
Would rather a Sadeas daki honestly. He seems closer to cut ottermode. King seems like he'd be too muscled for me to properly imagine topping him.

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>>51841515

>daki is warm, wriggly, and cuddly.

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>>51841901
I want the mongoose fuckers to leave.
>>51841931
>King seems like he'd be too muscled for me to properly imagine topping him.

That's called moe gap anon, makes it cuter.

>>51841980
It's gap moe, not moe gap, Fucking Missingdick faggot.

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>>51841980
Gap moe is a sukeban blushing when you embrace while the blood drips off her knuckles after you both beat a man to death for stepping off in the wrong street. Topping King isn't gap moe. It's against the natural order. Rats forging steel or no, this is like a average garden snail felling a lion in his prime, it just ain't right.

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>>51841988
>correcting someone that quickly about a meaningless weeb term
Next you're going tell me about how katanas are underpowered in SoS.

Will the Magic Compendium have rules for filling people with rats?

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Got another question for the devs

Is the cost for a first level proficiency 1, or 2?

>Buying into a School in order to gain its benefits is easy. The base cost in Arc of a School is listed in
>brackets in its Cost section. After this is paid, a number of Proficiencies can be selected and purchased at
>level 1 as part of the School. Each Proficiency added to a School must be paid for normally, though
>Humans, because of their racial characteristic Willing to Learn, purchase Proficiencies for 1 point instead
>of 2.

this implies it's 2, but the table says it's 1

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>>51842026

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>>51842204
Schools, last time I looked were worded poorly. Let's go from memory and hope they haven't pulled a sly one on me in my absence. That 1 there is the cost you pay to get any proficiency in the school at rank 1 and is payed for each proficiency. Noble iirc was [3]+1 per Primary. So taking Noble School - 1h Sword at rank 1 would cost 3+1+1. 3 for the school, +1 for the 1h Sword primary and 1 for 1h Sword at level 1 the number you circled in red.

Adding another primary, say Polearm, would increase the cost to 3+2+1+1. 3 for the school, 2 for two primaries and then 1 and 1 for the two proficiencies at level 1.

However, now it becomes much easier to level up. Instead of raising each proficiency to level 2, you raise the school itself to level 2. This only costs 1 the number under your red circle and schools continue levelling in this manner, regardless of how many proficiencies are inside the school itself.

>>51842310
Thanks but that didn't answer my question. The table says purchasing a proficiency at level 1 costs 1 point, but the paragraph says it costs 2.

>>51842385
Pretty sure it's 1 for humans, 2 for non-humans.

>>51842385
Oh uh shit, sorry. >>51842397 has it

>>51842397
>Pretty sure it's 1 for humans, 2 for non-humans.
I think I've been playing the game wrong for about a yea

>>51842592
>>51842450
>>51842397
Okay, the actual real answer is that it's 1 for everybody except humans who pay 0 for the first level of proficiency when it's in a school. Outside of a school it would however cost 1 for a human due to the human effect of Willing to Learn.

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I looked at old versions. Back in v1.9.3 the top table cost 2, but it had the exact same paragraph you see here >>51842204
But from v1.9.4 onwards, its cost is 1, and the paragraph is unchanged

1.9.4 came out in late 2014. This mistake has been in the rules for more than two years.

>>51842592
I've been playing it wrong too

>>51842691
Please be right.

>>51835542
Esoteric school - 2 points
Level 9 - 14 pts (levels 2 to 9)
one primary - 2 pts
two secondaries - 2 pts
You're not a human - 3 pts (level 1 for each profs)
= 23

That'd require 9 PCP, and you can only have 8 max per category.

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>>51841078
>>51841108
>Poleaxe with Custom Tight Grip 2
The way I read it, and the way we'll be running it, is that you cannot use Custom Grip to add two instances of the same thing. You can add Tight Grip, you can add Draw, you can add both, but you can't add Tight Grip 2 or Draw 2.

Otherwise, everyone would grab Tight Grip 2.

>>51843122
Then what's the bit about "improves its current value" supposed to mean?

>>51843171
Some weapons inherently have Draw, or already have Tight Grip. It's referring to upgrading those existing values. For instance, upgrading a Katana from Draw 4 to Draw 5.

>>51843171
If you have something else that gives it TG or Draw.

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>>51843122
>>51843171
>>51843198
Asked Jimmy directly

>>51843256
Dammit Jimmy, you fuck. It was one or the other way back when

>>51843256
Why's Jimmy-kun not paying attention to his best buddy friends in the thread?

>>51843413
Jimmy is trying to maintain constant communications on a dozen different websites and across four different messaging programs, to say nothing of his furtive emails.
And we've all already given him our money.Don't worry, he still loves us.

>>51843469
>>51843413
If nothing else, more of us should make reddit accounts, and actually participate in the (new) official subreddit.
If just for the duration of the kickstarter, we should try and do more to make this thing take off, and plebbit upboats are a possible way forward.

I don't imagine too many of you guys go to a LGS that you haven't already pushed SoS on?

>>51843548
>the day when Jimmy successfully turned us into redditers

You're right, but it feels wrong.

>>51843413
I'm looking for more venues to advertise the fucking game. I might make inroads at GitP, but trying to find out what that board's thoughts on BoB/BotIT and TROS were is like pulling teeth. Is it a fertile ground for a thread or not?

A few if you guys (I think maybe?) posted some leading questions in some of the existing threads, which was pretty cool. If you ever have an off moment, consider doing it again.Ask some questions, bring up some things you'd like to see more of, maybe make a thing in the plebbit. You know? We're talking to a lot of people on blogs and stuff today but it's slow work, and that doesn't guarantee we'll get anyone we don't already know. I'm going to go see about making a lore thread, maybe people will be interested in that.

>>51839310
Smart men at least get the head defense talent.

>>5184009
>>51840124

No, no it wasn't.

>>51842693
>>51842397
>>51842592
It's 1 for everyone, 1 for non-humans in schools, 0 for humans in schools.

>>51843122
If we're doing it like that, then I'll amend Zeyaad's Khyber Knife to Tight Grip 1 Draw 3.

Also
>Custom Grip on a polearm
This is possible? What about Custom Hilt? Would it only work for the forward hand?

>>51843122
Once and done is the obvious method for custom grips.

>>51843708
Some polearms did have hand protectors, and yes, they would only really work for the forward hand.
That also raises the question of it we're including the primitive stance optional rules with TZMs

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>>51842036
Of course not. That's plot tier artifact magic. You'll have to deal with the mere mortal magics in which you transmute blood into black ichor as it courses through the enemies veins, creating ever newer and more abberoneous forms of life all of which cry to god for salvation or harnessing an equally malignant and repugnant force to animate the peaceful dead and force them to wander damned and lustful consuming all life in their wake.

Or you could just transmute your body into a floating, fleshy coral reef that floats through the skies draining the essence of every living thing nearby much like the Forest of Einnashe

>>51843708
>This is possible?
It used to be that the weapon customizations were only for swords, but now they're available for all weapons. You can go stick a longsword guard on a kitchen knife if you want.

Will you guys be doing a Kickstarter or development post-mortem on SoS? I ask as someone interested in game design and kickscamming my own game someday.

>>51844122
Definitely. I'm keeping a bit of a journal already.

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>>51844122
>post-mortem

>>51844180
Awesome, glad to hear it!

>>51844188
Lots of games do them these days. Some really fascinating GDC talks about Doom and Diablo.

>>51841078
why aren't you wearing any clothing
you've got no shirt on under those plates
the only clothing is leather pants
I assume they're assless

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>>51844389
armor assumes at least minimum necessary padding

>>51844476
you're fucking wrong put some quilt on before

>>51843603
I just made an account there, will try to rack a few posts before you make a thread.

>>51844665
He's right mate, just because you're not the boss of this gym doesn't mean you need to get your panties in a twist

>>51844745
ok have fun getting joint thrusted

>>51844753
that's the point!

>>51844759
kinky

Bump, and my Character sheet for the Tourney.
http://paste2.org/1Hyd7xXZ

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>>51845128
>STR 8

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>>51845264
http://paste2.org/22KzXaf4
Hey, if everyone wanted to play rocket tag, it's best to play along instead of complaining.

Which region of Mexico do you plan to escape to with the embezzled kickstarter funds?

>eight arc cost upfront just to have three proficiencies in a school as a nonhuman
>takes 4 PCP just to be a total novitiate with a basic suite of combat skills
>maybe 3 if you want to suck even harder in the long term

>>51845651
Well you can't stay near the border because that's where the cartels are in charge. You can't go down to the southern border because Guatemalans are cannibalistic murder freaks who would love to eat a white man. It'd have to be in the middle.

>>51845666
That's the norm for every non-human race in Vosca. Humans are the weird ones, the freaky monkeys that easily change their beliefs and adapt to new knowledge. The races may be humanoids but their brains are different and they don't think the same. Give it up Satan. I won't fall for your anti-human schemes.

>>51845651
>implying 18k is worth embezzling.
Get a decent job and you make that in a few months.

>>51845706
No you mong, you dont understand. The PCP investment to have even the barest pittance of CP, of reaching the fabled 4 Proficiency of a commoner militia, is out of reach of the vast majority of nonHuman character concepts.
The game is telling me, bold faced, that I must put the maximum amount of PCP into Weapon Proficiency at chargen, or I will be bad, bad at combat.
Not even merely competent, but actively shit.

4 PCP is an investment that should allow a degree of comfortable competence, not a breadth of weapon training that can be fully and succinctly summed as "stick them with the pointy end"

>>51843603
Tell me where I should be and I'll go there. Hell, I have a tremendously venerable account for GitP since I posted there in high school, and even if I haven't been since around the turn of the decade I'd be happy to swing by if I could see a place worth posting.

>>51843768
>the magic compendium won't have examples of plot artifacts
It's gonna be shit, isn't it?

>>51844243
I think he was reacting to the implication that this is dying.

>>51845790
I mean, it might. But it probably won't give you the stats of Gizka Troll Womb Pot

>>51845732
>that article with the who's who of Opaque listed the professions of Claymore and Bones but not Jimmy
I don't think he can get a decent job. Turns out four years of delay isn't acceptable in most professions.

>>51845799
kek, of course he just means after it ends. I'm sure it will be hilarious watching the mood change over the course of the month.

>>51846067
What do you mean, change? People were already shitting on you for missing deadlines before the kickstarter.

Are there any mercenary groups operating out of the Lendian Commonwealth, and if there are which group and who would be the most famed both in a number of successes manner and a "most dangerous/strong" manner?
Also what language do Lendians speak and how do they dress, that article is a stub. You said you'd flesh out stubs if we linked them to you so;
wiki/The_Lendian_Commonwealth

>>51845757
1 more PCP will get you the 4 CP. All it really does is set you back 1PCP versus humans for every 3 weapons you want. And that's only at the begining the higher you go the smaller the gap gets to wear at the highest PCP you should only be a point or so behind the Human.

>>51846172
The situation remains rather shit.

>>51845799
a post mortem is a term for projects. it's like a look back.

>>51846203
Just learn a single weapon you...you...you double nonhuman

>>51846082
Well maybe, but it's already been a rollarcoaster of emotion and we're not a quarter of the way through yet.

>>51846148
The Lendians are not famed for their mercenaries--most of their fighting men find easy enough employment in the hosts of their nobles and military men, but bands do exist. One group, perhaps the most fearsome, are called the "Feathercaps" because of their custom of wearing hawk feathers in their fur hats, even to the point of modeling steel feathers on their helmets. This unit, which elects its leader on a yearly basis, fights as exquisite light horse, and are known for their ability to navigate even dense forests without dismounting--a talent which has frustrated many enemies who thought themselves protected from cavalry attack by the woods. Their favored weapon is the saber, though many also enjoy the use of light lances, and bows and pistols are used in equal measure according to the aptitude of the individual men.

Lendians speak Lendski, Lendish, or Lendian, depending on who you ask, and their style of dress is rather plain, eschewing combinations of colors and shapes for flat, monochrome dress with most adornment being in the form of buttons. Osterbijan and the Lendian men share a custom of wearing a sash across the breast from shoulder to hip, often of silk but sometimes of dyed wool for poorer folk. The Lendians by tradition wear this sash red, while the Osterbs wear blue. The Valaks have a similar tradition, though they wear their (yellow) sashes around their waists. The origin of the tradition is unclear, but a common myth is that in ancient times, the Valaks, Osterbs and Lendians were all one tribe, and when forced to split and go their second ways, they drew sashes from a great barrel to determine who would go in what direction. Some stories at the ancestors of the Ruscovites to this story (their color was green) and supposes that the four groups went East (Osterbs) West (Lendians) South (Valaks) and North (Ruscovites)

>>51846305
>get disarmed or the weapon breaks
>if it's a 2H weapon, sidearm will almost never be in the same category
>lose access to all Talents
>suffer CP loss
>be absolutely and proper fucked if a fight breaks out and am forced to rely on holdout/no weapon

>>51846324
I don't remember Valak being talked about before. Oh wait, was that the one with the Winter King?

>>51846355
It was.

>>51846333
Not my fault you didn't choose glorious human master race

>>51846355
Yis. Yis it is.

>>51846379
Is the current leader of the Feathercaps a strong warrior. Related, who is the most famed warrior in Lendia on a personal rather than military force level?

Why the fuck is Shield Bind in 2H Blunt?

When did gunpowder become a thing in the medieval period?

>>51846379
While you're here how about you respond to this?

>>51824317

Please

>>51846437
The Chinese discovered it in the 9th century, and traded it to the west in the 13th. Cannons are historically shown to have been used in the middle of the 14th.

>>51846450
Oh yeah, that shit's already canon dog.

>>51846437
Late medieval, so around the 13-14th century.

>>51846469
Explain, please.

Now people can't shit on me if I want to commission a trap meido-guard who is part of an Orredin's harem...as much.

>>51846487
Check the name again, friend.

>>51846487
Dude, it's a great idea. Why anyone would shit on you for being a mentally ill degenerate is beyond. We need more sexy fetish material in Vosca ASAP, and this is just the thing.

In other news, I'm now running the local AA meetings, renounced Jesus, and have given up my daily routine of sodomizing nubile greek boys.

>>51846425
Because Hand-Off lets you use 2H proficiencies with 1H weapons.

>>51846505
Oh darn it.

Please respond Jimmy. I don't want to embarrass you and myself by having to make a thread on your subreddit, only phrasing my question more tactfully.

>>51846333
But in return you have telepathy, eye lasers, murderous speed or whatever gonzo shit you paid for by being a non-human.

>>51846550
There is not a single 2H Blunt that hands off.

>>51846399
The current is a man named Stanislaw Bozhinko, who was elected for his skill with the saber, and also because he is a really, really oustanding horseman.

The most famous warrior in Lendia is, of course, Jerzy Korczak, who is said to be a comparable warrior to Sarah Gizka, Ratko Abuslav, and others of their ilk. He is a nobleman, and the second of of the Five Brave Colonels, who are the senior military man of the nation.

>>51846450
wew lad
Don't back me into the cell of Vivenzio here, I'm close enough to a panick attack these days as it is.

>>51846587
How about this one >>51818274 ?

>>51846585
>>51846550
Strike, there are two, the LATEX just didn't flag them.
Two whole weapons.

It makes sense for spear, but 2H Swords are much more versatile and they dont have to deal with this shit.

>>51846585
Nigga
Come on now

>>51846587
Jimmy, why can't you and/or bones slap together a standard press brief for things like that theRPGsite thread or that tumblr someone posted a few threads ago?

>>51846587
So no trap maids? Okay. It's a shame I cannot bribe Bones to draw me a trap and have it be turned into a canon Song of Swords character. Or that you're too uncomfortable doing it but could be pushed.

What about....a pic of an icequeen Silver Guardswoman? Or a haughty-looking Orredin female wearing some leather armor/riding gear?

Or maybe this is too much, but what about a guy besides a Mymridom mech? Said guy would be the pilot of it.

Maybe some kind of ranger tasked with keeping the Schwarzvalds in check when they're near or inside productive provinces.

Or a prettyboy (not a trap) Kaselreich noble of some sort who wants to lead his disgraced noble house to greatness. Think Reinhard from Legends of Galactic Heroes. Characterization wise, the cunning of Tywin Lannister from ASOIAF but more charismatic/less likely to act dickish enough he'd get shot while taking a shit.

I don't know. I guess I"ll think about it.

>>51846868
Just make the literal opposite of Gizka, a tall muscly boy who disguises himself as a female to get by in the fashion industry.

>>51846868
Hey, all of these are good ideas, I just have to be able to spin being able to use it in official materials without anyone giving me the old "where'd my greek slave boys go Jimmo" look.

You have plenty of time to think, and I'm not ruling anything out, as long as you're open to discussion when the time comes to actually decide upon stuff. A little compromise for tone here, a little glitter there, and everyone is happy. We have some boundaries but we're also happy to work with our backers.

desu I'm actually willing to bend much further on this sort of thing than I am on ideas that break existing lore super hard, so don't feel like I'm closing a door on you here. Ruminate on what you'd like.

>>51846324
Share this on some other forum too

>>51846974
>old "where'd my greek slave boys go Jimmo" look.

Are you saying greek slaveboys for male Orredin are okay but not greek traps for female Orredin?

>>51846587
>Don't back me into the cell of Vivenzio here
Not being a filthy fucking degenerate, I wasn't familiar with this reference. Having now done a bit of research, I believe this translates as "don't haze me bro".

>>51847073

Since images are down, here's my character.

http://imgur.com/a/jIe9G

Not stated is that everything cost a total of 7g 6s, and that every last cent of the rest of his money was spent on blinging it out as much as possible with decoration.

What I mean by fair play, is that he's willing to handicap himself in the interest of a good contest. He's trained as a nasty as fuck spearman, but will fight with sword and shield if he deems it appropriate for the enemy, especially if they don't have a super long weapon as well or aren't a muscle bound murder machine that outpaces him physically. Same goes with armor.

>>51847132
Did you make that form-fillable charsheet?

>>51847211
It's been out for a fair bit. I don't think it's in the mega. Once images are back up, I can upload it.

>tfw you really wanna take part in the tournament, but you're not sure if you have the time.

Style or substance?
Suplexes, or the mechanically obviously superior Toss?

>>51847448
Suplex

>>51847448
Oh right.
So Toss is ridiculously overpowered. We've had threads in the past about how crazy it is. So is Disarm (Defense), and the Slowpoke talent.

Unless someone comes up with a better idea, Toss will not inflict damage; Disarm (Defense) will be RS = BS instead of RS = BS+2; and Slowpoke will only work when you are outside of your enemy's shortest applicable weapon reach. (Example: You dual wield an EL-reach spear and a M-reach short spear. Slowpoke applies when your enemy is M- or further away. It doesn't apply once they get inside your reach.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGbja6xxM2w
Could a drakengard game be runwith this system?

>>51847535
No. You want high powered GURPS or Exalted for that.

>>51847634
That said, this system would be perfect if you just want the ultra-grim, nightmare fuel-soaked, cosmic horrorfest tone and atmosphere of Drakengard without the "one guy literally kills entire armies by himself" shit.

>>51847535
Depends on what you want out of Drakengard.

Could you do retarded anime fights with yelling transvestites against a Mute Serial Killer and his Reptilian Shapeshifting girlfriend, and his posse of weird children and child molestors?

Of course.

Are you really going to stand there and roll 50 or so cleaving blows to simulate Caim's tuesday afternoon?

Probably not.

After an unimpressive day numerically, the auto-calculated lower bound has dropped below $40k. Current trend, excluding the first two days, still puts us at a pretty substantial $45k, but that's assuming that the boys at Opaque can market well enough to counteract the waning that we might expect would result from the last of our local dilly-dalliers and prepaid payers from finally getting their pledges in – and that they can do so for the entire 25 days that remain. That's not very likely. It also assumes that Opaque won't make a breakthrough and get some huge media coverage. That's not super likely either, but it remains possible.

"Dwarven religion is essentially an unspoken secret within Dwarven community. They very vehemently deny the deific status of the various gods, considering Genosus, Bocanadessia, and The Seven to be essentially glorified spirits.

However, they never speak of the god they believe does exist. This is because they all know, without having to be told, that The King is real."

>>51847529
Slowpoke still works like normal if you are only wielding one spear though, right?

>>51847890
Oh, and a trend logarithm , which is probably more realistic, puts us at just over $25k. That remains the case whether I use the full dataset or exclude the first two, which is a decent indicator that it's probably pretty spot-on. This data is including the reddit bump, so it wouldn't account for a scenario where Jimmy et al stopped marketing entirely (or just started failing at it terribly) but it should include marketing at about their current level. It also doesn't account for variations in time-of-week, but we've covered enough parts of the week that that's probably smoothed out anyway – doesn't take much for variation that's cyclical. Finally, this is not accounting for the possibility of a huge media exposure, which would, essentially, stick another new log equation on top of this one.

The equation, if anyone cares, is f(x) = $4925.63 • ln(x) + 8699.45 where x is the number of days since the kickstarter began. R-squared is 0.9946, indicating that this equation fits the data extremely well. And you would be able to see as much simply by looking, were 4chan working properly.

>>51847978
Slowpoke works as long as your opponent is outside the reach of an equipped polearm or spear you are wielding.

>>51847978
No. The way Slowpoke is written is too strong and doesn't make much sense. Instead, it will only work for when you are outside the range of the fighter with Slowpoke. Once you're inside their range, Slowpoke will stop applying.

Without this houserule, you have the following situation:
The enemy wields a pike. You manage to hit with your sword and are now at Medium range, well within the enemy's reach. Now you decide to kick him, which is a Short range attack. You have to pay an additional die for range to move from Medium to Short. Supposedly this represents the difficulty of "getting past the range of a spear." But you already got past it! Slowpoke shouldn't affect this situation.

Wake up! Someone make a new thread!

>>51848037
Amen

>>51849350
>by frank frazetta

I thought you were a Finn.

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