/tgesg/ - Weekend Elder Scrolls General

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>>51800063
Does any TES game have the equivalent?

>>51800293
what is that?

>>51800320
Tomb of Horrors, and infamously difficult D&D 1e dungeon.

>>51800293
In the lore:
Battlespire, Labyrinthian, Sancre Tor, Puzzle Canals of Vivec, Tel Fyr and the Clockwork City (or parts of it) are all possible candidates from lore. They are not nearly as dreadful inside the games though.

>>51800440
Mods like Greater Dwemer Ruins (Dagoth Ur mega-dungeon) and Sotha Sil Expanded fix this. Also, they're lore friendly enough that they could be considered official.

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Let's do some brainstorming - what would Snowhawk (the city in Skyrim/Reach that magically disappeared in TESV) look like? is it a Haafingar city or a Reach city? Perhaps a mix of both? What people live there? What is its history? What is its economy based on?

>>51800293
The final dungeon in Daggerfall seemed pretty hard.

>>51800577
The name implies that it's more of a military fortification than a residential area.

>Old Nordic Ruin
>Large monoliths and symbols all around
>Really gives the impression that its current inhabitants are living in a ruin of a bygone age
>Ring fortress with thick, thick walls and one entrance, not counting the sewer grate.
>A few houses inside, each one with its' door facing away from the great wall
>The entire city is built in a circular pattern, with one main town square in dead centre, and every door pointing out towards it.
>Not many houses at all, relatively small in lore, relatively large in game because Skyrim is a lot smaller ingame.
>Jarls' hall is part of the walls and built in the old Nordic style, looks like a crypt if not for the chandeliers hanging from the roof and the cleanlyness.
>Jarl is seated with his back against a word wall.
>The Jarl is visible once you enter the building, just far away.
>Small, claustrophobic paths on each side lead into the barracks and dungeons, underneath the city, also built in a Nordic fashion.

>>51800652
>>Not many houses at all, relatively small in lore, relatively large in game because Skyrim is a lot smaller ingame.
Are there any mods in the works to make Skyrim 1:1 scale?

>>51800748
That would take longer to make than Tamriel Rebuilt, so no there aren't and probably never will be.

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>>51800748
You realize that Skyrim ingame is the size of Manhattan, while Skyrim in lore is the size of, say, a very large RL country?

That's practically impossible.

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What's your favorite geographical region in ES games?

Mine's Whiterun plains, believe it or not. The most fertile land in Skyrim.

>>51800842
favorite: Gold Coast because muh cozy mediterranean
least favorite: Alik'r desert because it doesn't make any sense.

>>51800748
Are you retarded or something?

>>51800816
>>51800805
Just procedurally generate most of the landmass.

>>51800885
Yes.
>>51800869
>aik'r desert
Magnus, you can put that desert there, no one important will be using that land anyway.

>>51798693
If i'm not mistaken, Ur means "The first", or something along this lines. Since his goal was to infect the whole world with corprus, making it an extention of himself, he identifys himself now as the Dagoth who starts it all, Dagoth Ur

>>51800293
Arena and Daggerfall both have some fairly brutal dungeons.
Or, I think Arena does, I was practically a god by the end of that game.

>>51800887
That would be fucking pointless to be honest and hurt gameplay because it would make fast travel only sane option and anything handmade in the wilderness (that is not quest related) would be lost in middle of shit.

>>51800979
You're right although the way it's used in Dagoth Ur is wrong. It should be Ur-Dagoth.

We basically have another case of dai-katana here.

>>51801055
I remember him from Morrowind

>>51801055
He's the Sharmat, he gets everything the wrong way around.

>>51801055
>You're right although the way it's used in Dagoth Ur is wrong. It should be Ur-Dagoth.
>assuming the syntax is english

>>51801177
What's his power level?

>>51801242
Talos.

The HoonDing.

Trinimac.

Vivec.

Leki.

Reman.

Auri-El.

Wulfharth.

Morihaus.

Pelinal.

That's my list, and pretty much in that order. Though Vivec did kill Tiber Septim once...but I mentioned Talos, not the Emperor.

I'd put him approximately around Vivec's level.

>>51801247
Who is Leki?
And why is Trinimac above Auri-El?

>>51801441
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Leki#Leki
Auri-El is the weakest of the Aka-Tusk.

>>51801247
>Put him around Vivec's level
Well Dagoth Ur was at his strongest at the end of Morrowind, stronger than Vivec, because Lord Dagoth had access to the Heart and Almsivi did not

>>51801247
Sharmat is a special case by being the Sharmat. He is older than music afterall.

so is the tribe unmourned referring to house dagoth or house dwemer or both?

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>>51800842
Bitter Coast my n'wah.

>>51801562
Dagoth. That fat dude is still around to mourn for Dwemer.

>>51801247
>Reman
why is he so strong?

>>51801562
Since House Dagoth were persecuted to cover up the FOUL MURDER and establish the Tribunal Temple, no one weeps for this House, a Great House no less, that have been systematically exterminated.

Dwemer are not a Great House like others are. It's like how you say Mongol Empire when dealing with them, but they are only called an empire because that's what they resemble the closest in your culture.

>>51801651
He literally fucked the earth.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Remanada

>>51801651
Enantiomorph

What parts of mainland Morrowind would still be populated by tribal Dunmer? I'm thinking some on the Telvanni peninsula (whatever that horn is called), some in the Velothi Mountains and probably some down in the marsh.

>>51800887
You'd still have to do 1:1 cities which means thousands of residents and hundreds of houses etc. Also, performance would become issue here even with the best of current hardware.

>>51801739
ashlands, grazelands, azura's coast.

>>51801802
>mainland Morrowind

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>>51801802
Mainland you doofus.

>>51801808
>>51801815
oh my bad. probably Molaghread, and the Helnim Fields
http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/sites/default/files/images/TR1609RegionMap.jpg

>>51801739
Definitely some down in the marsh.

>YWN be a flybitten Dunmer Tribal in the black marsh making a living out of hunting, gathering, and trading Argonian slaves and hides for jugs of clean water and potions of cure disease

>>51800816
The size of Manhattan but the population of a single building.

>>51801954
Skyrim is not a city, you goofus

>>51801992
Neither is Solitude according to TESV

>>51801586
I feel like heavily modded morrowind is just too lush, the original vanilla scenery is a lot more bleak and lifeless

>>51802056
I think I'd prefer the original Morrowind design with Vvardenfell as a whole being an ash wasteland desu

>>51800842
Glenumbra, beautiful place.

>>51802056
I quite like the >>51801586 screenshot desu. You can have bleakness and lifelessness at the same time, and that screenshot certainly conveys a rather inhospitable marsh. Not a completely lifeless place, but then again, not many places in ES are one hundred percent wastelands.

>>51802056
i agree, with the bitter coast i dont mind but turning Balmora into a Forest is just not right.

Morrowinds graphics age rather well id say, it fits the aesthetic of desolation, modding morrowinds graphics for the most part doesnt work.

For example beeing able to see further just destroys the feeling of vastness, aswell as showing you that the red mountain is more a mound than a mountain.

>>51801913
for what its worth ESO has a tribe of Ashlanders living in close proximity to blackmarsh inside a snake infested swamp, they worship what is called "The Ghost snake" which is some form of spirit that resides within what appears to be an argonian structure inside the bog.

You dont interact with them much, mainly they are xenophobic ashlanders who you can pursuade into trading their snakeskin wares with hlaalu.

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>>51802105
Well, here's how it looks like in deep wastes.
>>51802418
Does someone seriously use that mod which turns Balmora into a forest?

>>51802418
>The Ghost snake
Wasn't this originally the power of Magribash witch-women who would steal some form of essence from men.

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Will you let me be your Duchess of Dementia, /tg/?

>>51800518
Are they _actually_ lore friendly enough? I was super suspicious of Sotha Sil expanded from what I saw in previews.

>>51802551
What do you mean originally? you mean where it comes from?
Im fairly sure its never explained what the Ghost snake actually is, maybe there is a lorebook i missed, i honestly didnt like the main leveling zones much, i guess there were some gems there.

Do you know more than i do?
To me it appeared as if the ghost snake was some very obviously argonian thing just judging from the architecture of its lair and the proximity to the marsh.

>>51802524
I think its actually part of one of the major mod compilliations, i mean it is pretty, it just doesnt capture the essence of what balmora is to me.

I dont think all of vvardenfell should be ashlands, i mean vvardenfell is big, i just think that balmora specifically shouldnt be lush.

>>51802763
Almost all new books are just MK apocrypha and mostly Clockwork City is just expanded while being faithful to original design. Nothing that conflicts with known lore is really added there. New artifacts added are from known lore too.

There is one thing that could be lore-unfriendly though. Sotha Sil has preserved himself as a virtual copy inside his city wide computer network, so he isn't really dead like in vanilla. Though to be honest we can't know if he was really dead in vanilla either. I mean, his city was still functioning despite him being dead.

>>51802763
That's made by Trainboy, yeah? We're pretty sure he works for Bethesda now, so I'd say it's about as Canon as MK's fan fiction. That is to say, it doesn't matter just have fun with it.

>>51802766
Also regarding "ghost snake" in Morrowind there are "evil" witches called Magribash. They're renegade wise women who defy men's rule and steal vital essence from men. Their special power is called "ghost nake", but I'm not really sure what it is.

In the game Magribash appear as generic renegade wise women that have women only camps in wilderness. They attack player on sight and don't have unique dialogue aside explaining that they're Magbribash.

I don't think there's any written lore about them. Everything about them is told by dialogue from NPCs.

>>51802944
>Magribash
Oh yeah aperently in Morrowind they were an NPCs class for Ashlander bandits, i completley forgot about that.

Considering that they steal "essence" of men and manifest some sort of a snake. I'd bet it is refering to ghostly penises since I'm pretty sure MK wrote that.

>>51801441
Because Trinimac is literally the "Strong God" of the Elves.
Just because Auri-El is more important doesn't mean shit.

Not to mention the fact that that list is literally written out in terms of a fighting-game roster.

Which faction should I join or what do in Morrowind now? The Telvanni agent quest is usually a slight roadblock for me. Should I also explore houses n shit to see what I can find since that's where the hidden stuff is apparently.

>>51803499
Do the temple, its incredibly boring.

You have probably already done Redoran and you said you did telvanni, so try hlaalu?
Be crassius curios slut.

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>tfw she didn't die

>>51803542
No, the fighters guild telvanni agents quest.

>>51803592
Do Telvanni then, can be frustrating tho.
Make sure to finish it before doing the Tong.

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>>51802766
In the early ESO beta, the Ghost Snake was originally known as the 'Aspect of Sithis.'

>>51803741
i think i might remember this.
Makes sense to me, we know Sithis is a thing acknowledged but not neccesarily worshipped by argonians.

In ESO i think the implication is that sithis is what the argonians see as "death", death is not the Grim reaper but a predator waiting to pounce.

Fits their habitat i guess, aswell as their outlook on life.


i do find it interresting that an Ashlander Tribe would adopt an argonian spirit as their totem, on the other hand since that got removed from the game it could not be meant as this.

>>51804471
May not necessarily be an Argonian. I mean it is a serpent after all.

I see it as not a particularly major spirit, possibly an imprint or shade left on the world by Lorkhan during its creation, which eventually coalesced as a serpent as from the natives understanding of the swamp.

Why is Daggerfall the greatest city in High Rock, it maybe the greatest city on Tamriel.

>>51800748
I don't think so, but there are mods to add in lots of towns from Arena. It will make your game run slower though.

>>51804713
I don't know, why?

I haven't seen the ESO version, but the Daggerfall version isn't that great. It's large compared to other TES games, but other cities are about as large in the same game.

>>51804849
In ESO it's made up of about 5 houses, a trade market, a lumber mill, and the castle.
Of course, so is every other major city.

>>51804849
Well the ESO version also has about 30 extra NPCs, some with names that contribute nothing beyond making the city feel populated, something the singleplayer games were lacking.

>>51805220
But Daggerfall was full of random NPCs - hundreds of them. They were just all sprites that were likely randomly generated when you weren't looking, aside from shopkeepers and important NPCs.

Daggerfall had an amazing sense of scale, but it also really lost any chance for a bunch of individual characters. And since the game worlds have been getting smaller since Morrowind despite tech upgrades, I doubt we'll really see anything close to as large again. Morrowind was probably the last shot at cities that were actually decently large and populated with large amount of NPCs - and proper villages, come to think of it.

>>51805418
yeah but all cities were not just daggerfall.

I think the importance of Daggerfall is not neccesarily its size but its political position, its only rivaled by Wayrest.
And important cities become big rather than big cities becoming important.

>>51805515
I think it is the city that even when High Rock was thirty-ish kingdoms, the Empire would treat as the provincial capital, and that hasn't really changed with four.

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>>51804983
Oh I'd say it's a little more than that.

>>51805958
that could be any city, because they all look the same

>>51805975
No, most other cities are small hamlets in comparison. The only real competition for size is Wayrest.

>>51800887
That worked back when there was no established lore and the team was able to do whatever the fuck it wanted.

>>51804713

Evermore > Daggerfall

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>>51803568
>tfw essential NPC kill mods

>>51805997
all the towers and castles are cookie cutter garbage

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>>51806050
I'm not arguing aesthetic, I'm talking about size. You want to talk about shitty cities, then yes, Bretons win that by a mile.

There's a hell of a lot more appealing places in the world than a Breton city.

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>>51806063
Though there is something to be said about Breton appearances. I'm finally starting to see the 'elf' side of them that's supposed to make them look better.

>>51804713
I like Daggerfall and the history associated with it, but Wayrest just seems like a nicer city.
As for the less obvious cities I quite like Dwynnen.

>>51805418
And this is why the prospect of modding Daggerfall Unity is great.
Imagine Daggerfall, except the different regions have unique styles in clothing and architecture, and with more unique buildings.
More varied NPC sprites to show a few non-humans in cities, more NPC dialogue, and a reintroduction of unimplemented features such as bards and prostitutes. Retrofit lore that has been added to the series since 96.
People were able to mod in sprites and quests back in the 90s, but it will be simpler with the jump to Unity.
https://youtu.be/vititmYVi0s

the cat pile wasn't a literal pile right? its some kinda psychic projection surely?

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>>51806036
>tfw those mods has crashed my game every time

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>>51803568
what a boring, stupid, disgusting-looking character from a main quest. She has no personality aside from "damn thalmor, damn dragons lol." The other characters were just as flat. A dragon spouting philosophy 101 platitudes and an equally boring blades bookkeeper.

In Morrowind your blades handler is a shirtless man pretending to be skooma addict living at a back-street house in Balmora.

The Hlaalu questgiver is a pervert and smut writer with a number of strange fetishes. The leader of the Redoran at first will say he would die before making the Nerevarine horator. The Telvanni did not give a fuck and basically says whatever, go be horator, just leave you stupid peasant.

None of that character depth is present in the Skyrim main quest, and these are fairly little things, not to even mention the hermaphroditic poet-warrior-god

I don't need super huge cities or better combat or newer graphics, I just want interesting characters I care about talking to.

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>>51806341
No it was literally just cats piling on top of eachother

>>51806398
did not mean to put spoiler on that image

>>51806398
While Delphine is a terrible character, I honestly think you are simply bitter and too old for videogames

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Was Saadia telling the truth?

>>51806398
>pretending to be skooma addict

>>51806558
no way to find out really

>>51806539
I didn't say I hated Skyrim. There were lots of good things about it. But the main quest (and general character building) was inexcusably lazy

>>51806560
He just liked to party and could quit any time he wanted

>>51806558
>http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Saadia
>If you sit down in any seat inside the inn Hulda will call out to her to serve you, she will then approach and initiate conversation offering a choice of food and/or drinks from the same merchant chest as Hulda.
weird, never noticed that

>>51806560
Came here to post this. Caius Cosades is a very nice character. He came on business obviously, but he eventually ended up loving Morrowind and everything it had to offer. It's kinda sad that he had to be called back into Cyrodil for other business.

>>51806398
The Greybeards were interesting.

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>>51806398
>a shirtless man pretending to be skooma addict
>pretending

>>51806645
At least he's as authentic as the player with their cover story.

>>51806613
>It's kinda sad that he had to be called back into Cyrodil for other business

>tfw Caius getting called back to Cyrodiil was an obvious lead in to TES IV
>tfw Bethesda scrapped this portion of the story and we will never get a TES IV with Caius in it

>>51806681
>the champion of cyrodiil will never find him in a small shack about how he lost his job due to his sugar that he doesn't mention because of him being a Blade
>He's high af from Skooma and he asks his player to do a little fetch quest to fetch some moon sugar
>he gifts them something relating to the Blades after fetching moon sugar

Or something else. I can picture him in just a little shack doing whatever.

>>51806175
I like Menevia for less popular High Rock cities

>>51806558
I doubt it, her story doesn't add up. Why would Redguard warrior elites who are fighting and actively resisting the Aldmeri Dominion be hunting someone who spoke out against the Dominion?

>>51806036
>Needing mods to kill essential NPCs
>Not playing Morrowind
>Not having random NPCs tagged as essential to fuck with you

>>51806088
Pelinal was right about Bretons

>>51806175
Wasnt Daggerfall Unity supposed to have multiplayer? I think i remember playing a Demo of it, id love to play Daggerfall with friends.
Daggerfall is comfy as fuck even tho occasionally frustrating.

>>51806398
>Pretending to be a Skooma Addict
>Pretending

For what its worth skyrim tried to bring more personality into the game with Dawnguard, but they also made the mistake of including a waifu so it all went about the waifu instead of character development.
Elder Skub Online has Orsinium which has some decent character writing.

Generaly writing was never a big part of TES, but i agree, Morrowind had some good characters, Crassius beeing a major example, not just that, he was also a Character who would normally be a clear villain, sexually abusing his henchmen and all, but actually hes probably the most decent guy within house hlaalu.

>>51806681
>>51806767
Makes me wonder why they didnt at least include him as an easter egg. They included these random Nords from Solstheim.

>>51806594
All it takes to quit is a healing potion
what brain dead fuckwit came up with that quest anyway.

>>51807037
>Writing

By that i mean Character writing, Characters in TES generaly were always quite static and stuff like Character development or any sort of longer Character Arc didnt realy happen, the exception beeing Redguard of course, mostly because Redguard is a Character focused game.

>>51807043
probably same fuckwit that made Caith's companion quest in Fallout 4

>>51806767
>asks player to get him some drugs
>complete fetch quest
>player is rewarded with some nice blades shit
>if you visit him later you'll find him dead from an overdose
And so the Champion learned an important lesson about drugs. Stay safe, kids.

>>51806767
I'd imagine him taking on a more dignified role in the story.
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/caius-cosades-visit-uriel-viis-tomb

There is definitely more to Caius than he lets on.

>>51806362
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're the reason why half the NPCs in my game are broken.

>>51807037
>Wasnt Daggerfall Unity supposed to have multiplayer?
It's a mod. But yeah, Multiplayer Daggerfall sounds nice.

>Daggerfall is comfy
https://youtu.be/wsPvwPnznWo

>>51802056
I like the idea of making the swampy coasts contrast more with the wastes. >>51802524

>>51805418
I still want to see a TES game set in one lifesize city.

>>51806036
>>51806362
>>51807037
Can't you just console them after you're done?

>>51807043
A little detox can help or at least give a placebo boost, still pretty fucking stupid.

>>51807610
>Can't you just console them after you're done?
You can delete them from the game, but that doesn't feel as good as actually killing them.

>>51807693

Does setessential 0 not work?

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>>51807783
Does it?

>>51807783
>>51807854
Never had a reason to test it, but I've used it to set companions immortal and the blacksmith in Whiterun who kept getting murdered by vampires.

>>51807610
>I still want to see a TES game set in one lifesize city.
you again??

>>51808161
Yes, imagine that, people stick around threads they visit.

>>51808161
what's wrong with that? it would be a great way to make a tight and consistent game.

>>51808161
News just in: People sometimes hold opinions for a significant amount of time.

>>51808222
Wait wtf are you telling me you're all the same guys from the last thread?
And the thread before that?!

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There's a new revision of UESRPG 3E out, with some pretty significant changes to things that have to do with combat.
Mainly changes to Initiative and Action Points, but that affects quite a lot.

Seht mentioned it, but he did so pretty late last thread. So here's for those who care, but missed it.

I'm working on a raspy Dunmer voice. Anyone have any lines they'd like me to say? I'll try and post a few in the thread once I get shit recorded and sounding decent.

>>51809083
hmmm. this game looks pretty fun but kinda clunky. how does it play?

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>>51807037
>For what its worth skyrim tried to bring more personality into the game with Dawnguard=

>try to bring more personality with Dawnguard
>strip the personality out of Dawnguard when you bring it over
The Volkihar were supposed to be cool frozen ice vampires, not the generic castle-living "take over the world because vampires are superior" vampires.

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Are werewolves in luff as strong as they are in the games?

Asking because I soloed Whiterun, Falkreath, and Dawnstar as one.

>>51809423
Can't tell you, I've never had the chance to play.
I probably wouldn't be the right person to ask anyway, I enjoy a good deal of crunch to my systems.

>>51809911
i have no real problem with crunch during character creation if it means things smooth out a bit down the line. but there's so much numbers and stacking effects, etc that it looks kinda rough unless you're really familiar with it

>>51809661
>"take over the world because vampires are superior" vampires
Harkon was literally the only vampire that thought like this.

>skyrim tried to bring more personality into the game with Dawnguard
The Falmer got more personality with the DLC.

>>51806558
She definitely wasn't telling us the whole truth, but I don't think the soldiers were either. That scene where you can randomly find them threatening a redguard woman on the roads, mistaking her for Saadia, pretty much cemented them as the ones in the wrong in my opinion. It felt like they'd probably killed a few people before, and then checked to see if it was actually the right target afterwards.

Also, out of curiousity, I just looked up the quest on UESP, and noticed something interesting. If you give her to the Alik'r, your journal will read
>After making arrangements with Kematu, I've delivered Saadia to him. He assures me that she will be taken back to Hammerfell alive, though after that her fate is no longer in his hands.
Except the page ALSO says
>Saadia's body will appear in Whiterun's Hall of the Dead if you hand her over to the Alik'r.
This is likely just an oversight on Bethesda's part, but taken literally, it means the Alik'r lied to you.

what area of the lore do you guys hope is expanded upon in tes vi?

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>>51810638
I would love to learn more about Masser and Secunda, and other planes. Maybe travel to them if we can. If it involves Khajiit, even better. Besides that, I'd love to learn more about how the Khajiit live in Eleswyr. How their lives differ between those who live in the arid regions as opposed to those who like in the lush.

>>51809950
It is a crunchy game, but far less crunchy than it used to be. We're trying to strike a delicate balance!

>>51809661
I thought the "Phase through the ice like ghosts" vampires were a different clan that mysteriously didn't appear (Because fighting noclipping enemies that dragged you under ice to drown probably playtested badly)

>>51809785
I think that's more a case of town guards being pathetically weak in-game.

They are supposed to be really dangerous.

>>51802763
Yeah, probably more than the vanilla game. According to Sotha Sil's Last Words the actual clockwork city is meant to be massive and technologically advanced, and even ESO confirms that. Apparently ESO is borrowing a lot of ideas from train's version.

>>51812862
>Apparently ESO is borrowing a lot of ideas from train's version.

Good.

>>51812970
Hope you like Sotha Sil making train jokes constantly.

>>51813057
I'm sure they won't derail the mood that badly.

Is the Imperial Cult in Morrowind easy? Why do all the quests look so freaking basic?

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>>51813057
Hey, Sotha Sil made no train jokes in SSE. Sotha Sil is characterized by being slightly sarcastic and permanently amused because everything you know is wrong.

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We all know about skooma. Any other drugs in ES lore? Aside from the liqors of course

>>51810638
I'd like to see more explicit lore on mundane things. Beauty, tastes, preferences, "wrong" preferences, etc.
Take fashion. Outside of the clothes being names "fine" or "extravagant", what about the clothes do people like? What kind of fashion trends has there been? Do certain colors work together differently than irl?
I know people talk about "show don't tell", but would it really be that weird for characters or books to identify why they wear a garment other than practicality or nonspecific "lavish apparel"? Seeing concept art is nice and little hints like the morag tong shirt is a plus, but we don't really hear or see much about how they feel about it, they just kind of accept it as it is.
I know most people here prefer star surfing and gundam battles tier of lore, and that's cool. I know bethesda has kind of been stepping back with that stuff after morrowind, not necessarily removing it but just not really doing anything with it, but they aren't doing much for the mundane things either.

Basically I wanna see "Tamriel's Next Top Model".

>>51813112
Imperial cult quests are more about how you complete them then actually completing them. Do it how they tell you to do it and go for the overachieving option for each.

>>51813179
A shitton.

Indulcet
Sursum
Aegrotat
Quaestro Vil
Daril
"drugs drawn from the admixture of daedrons into living hosts" from Adabal-a

>>51813210
I'm with you on that sort of thing, the "three-headed dirt octopus firing ninth-dimensional historical moments" style lore just gets a bit dry for me after a while
plus I want to know the daily routine of a Daggerfall merchant or anybody in Summerset

Wait... Why do female Argonians have breasts?

>>51811947
there are also Khajiit on the Moons, the colony is called Lleswer.
there was also a reman era colony.
Most of Moon lore is fan lore, butt its good fan lore.

>>51814690
Wait I thought the Imperial Colony was from a Dragonbreak. Doesn't that stuff disappear when time unfucks itself or does it all merge and continue to exist?

>>51814163
Hist Sap storage, lets Argonians procreate when there are no Hist nearby. Only Argonians outside of Black Marsh have these.

what is that quote again? Of his flesh and of his flesh, or something like that? Kinda need that quote right now

>>51814690
What form do the khajiit born on the moons take? Their point of reference to the phases is different after all

>>51815174
ES moon phases don't work the same way as in our world - parts of the moons physically disappear.

>>51815174
This >>51815185
They arent shadows, the moon partly disappears, decays even.

>>51814721
Nope, it was from Reman era and happened in current timeline. Also, it all merges (see ending of Daggerfall) rather than disappears.

>>51814721
People need to stop using "Dragon break" as "alternate universe"

This is not what it means. Dragon Break means that several possibilities happened all at once and the Jillians fixed this mistake.

This does NOT imply that it never happened and it does NOT imply that it is somehow less legitimate.

Dragon Break mereley means that several mutually exclusive events somehow happen at the same time

The whole "Its not canon its a dragon break" thing is a stupid meme by people that dont understand TES metaphysics and just want to use it to declare one of the games that they dont like as "non canon"

>>51816160
I believe he is referring to
>Cyrodiil became an Empire across the stars
Read
http://lagbt.wiwiland.net/index.php?title=Pocket_Guide_to_the_Empire,_Second_Edition/Cyrodiil

>>51816580
>The whole "Its not canon its a dragon break" thing is a stupid meme by people that dont understand TES metaphysics and just want to use it to declare one of the games that they dont like as "non canon"
There are people who don't like Daggerfall? That makes me feel dirty desu.

I keep thinking of my own idea for tes vi but it's extremely farfetched and shitty but I can't let it go

Wat do

>>51816887
Tell us more, of course

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>>51816890
It's really bad. Really, really, really bad.

Somewhere deep in the Druadach mountains, dwarven worker drones finish the task they were given several thousand years ago. They built a machine that pulls the soul unharmed out of a soul gem, and into an object. Like that, an infamous dwemer is reborn.

Then, and here comes the bad part, said Dwemer builds a machine, deep in the mountain, to sever the Druadach mountains from the rest of Tamriel. Farrun, Jelhanna, Evermor, Orsinium, Haafingar Hold, and the Reach all split from the mainland. And that's just the start of the megalomaniac Dwemers plans.

Last night I feel asleep designing how Solitude would realistically look like after the arch it stood upon broke and crashed into the ocean, the way the new Jarls palace would be planned, the Jarl himself, and the politics on the new island as the political entities of former high rock and skyrim tries to get a grip on the fact that they're on their own continent.

>>51816765
That's different timeline though. You know during Dragon Breaks all timelines collide. I think that timeline were Cyrodiil is star empire is featured in Confession of Boma Kuro.

Moon Colonies and Reman era Imperial space program (aka Mananauts) aren't related to this.

>>51816997
>That's different timeline though
Anon, the text pretty much flat out states that Cyrodiil was literally stretched across the Cosmos and then disintegrated back to Nirn upon the Break's ending.

>>51816986
Yeah, that's pretty bad lol

>>51815174
The Moons and their Motions aren't really relative.

>>51807037
I don't think Pelinal said anything about them.

>>51816792
Actually when Oblivion came out a lot of people went "Well oblivion is just not a jungle because it happens in a dragon break its an alternate universe guys" and then when skyrim came out "Alduin is only so small because its a dragon break" and of course the all famous "ESO is just a dragon break its an alternate timeline"

None of these things are correct of course, they are just symptoms of the fans of each game hating the next game that comes along.

Daggerfall fans would have done it to Morrowind but the fact that Daggerfalls ending was the Dragonbreak was one of the major reasons the Daggerfall fans hated Morrowinds lore in the first place.

And yes there are people who prefer Daggerfall lore over morrowind lore, they tend to be quite vocal in "TES purity" arguing, as in "What you started playing with Skyrim? well I started playing with Oblivion, the superior TES game" -"Wot? I started playing with MORROWIND you casual" upon which some disgruntled Daggerfall player shows up and goes "you havent played a real elderscrolls game when you werent taking 5 hours to clear a randomly generated dungeon and had to quicksave every time you walk up the stairs because you might fall through em"

>>51816997
Fucking this again
NO, Dragonbreaks are not alternate timelines. All things that happen within Dragonbreaks occur simultaniously, they are still there.

Boma Kuro is completley unrelated to this, Boma Kuro was just part of the Memospore ARG and is irrelevant to lore. Its just a funky TV show with names from TES and a few referenes to Memospore.

>>51817510
My bad, that was Ysgramor
Remove man elfs.

Do you lads grind skills in ES games?

>>51817631
He didn't say anything about Bretons either. The closest we get is Khosey's party who accidentally attracted until they found out they were human, and King Vrage who wanted to help free them but couldn't.

>>51817837
I normally put some money into training Endurance skills early. The closest I get to grinding is when I stock up ingredients at home, and make 4,000 potions to sell and use.

>>51817631
Nerds are gatekeepers, holy shit who knew

>>51817837
>grinding
Depends on what you mean. I might focus entirely on, say, one school of magic for a while, and buy training, but I won't tend to murderhobo every mudcrab and deer I see just for the extra experience. I do what >>51817885 does with alchemy though.

>>51817960
Casting one spell over and over with a low cost. Seems metagamey, yet magic in itself takes awhile to level apparently.

>>51818002
Only when it came to levitation in Morrowind because I used a really cheap spell since I wasn't a major magic user. I think it was justified, to be honest. An old Telvanni would probably float around without even having to think about it, though.

What is your
>Favorite Race
>Favorite Province
>Favorite Game
>Favorite Aedra
>Favorite Daedra
>Blood Type
>Address
>Social Security Number
>Penis size
>Anal circumference

>>51818195
So for magic you just paid for training instead of making a low level spell and grinding it out?

>>51818218
No, I never actually played a mage so all of my spells were really basic stuff

>>51816580
>"Dragon break" as "alternate universe"
That's not what I imply. I mean that when time realigns itself that one of the shards is 'chosen' as the main timeline and everything else goes away even if it is remembered.

I mean wouldn't that be easier to prevent an overlap is two separate entities inhabit the same space during a dragonbreak?

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>>51818218
I would level conjuration by summoning ghosts and having them refill my magicka atronach is the greatest birthsign, prove me wrong, you can't as I walked between cities. Nothing like setting auto-walk with sneak activated and just headbutting a corner for 20 minutes like I've seen some fags do.
>>51818199
>>Favorite Race
Dunmer
>>Favorite Province
Morrowind
>>Favorite Game
Morrowind
>>Favorite Aedra
Julianos
>>Favorite Daedra
Meridia, Boethiah, or Mephala.
>>Blood Type
Red
>>Address
420 St. Nerevar Road, Mournhold, MW.
>>Social Security Number
XXX-XX-XXXX
>>Penis size
micro
>>Anal circumference
6

>>51818477
I'm actually planning to play a Sorcerer Altmer with the Atronach and bound weapons. The stunted magicka doesn't seem that bad since you can enchant things to cast spells for you, and that it's easy af to replenish.

I was actually asking the training magic question because I'm playing a sort of argonian healer and I'm not sure how to go about it. But meh, might just buy training since that's what it's there for.

>Favorite Race
Probably Dunmer or Bretons. Nords get an honorable mention.
>Favorite Province
Morrowind. Post Miracle of Peace Highrock sounds comfy.
>Favorite Game
Morrowind
>Favorite Aedra
Magnus. If that doesn't count than either Dibella or Mara.
>Favorite Daedra
Sanguine or Azura.
>Blood Type
O-
>Address
42 P. Sherman Wallaby Way, Sydney
>Social Security Number
****-***-****
>Penis size
Slightly above average, but not significantly so.
>Anal circumference
Like a coffee straw

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/words-clan-mother-ahnissi-her-favored-daughter

I really like this myth, Anu being an asshole dad and Lorkhan being a traumatized annoying kid with the Padomay equivalent being good.

It's a very nice myth.

>>51818547
>>51818199

>>51818546
In my experience with Bretronach, you might want to know that casting spells with an amulet or ring barely does anything for leveling Enchant. Try not to rely too heavily, or you might take forever to level up.

>>51818650
Unless you use a soul gem to refill it, which'll help.

>>51818476
look at the warp in the west. nothing realy got deleted, all the important stuff still happened.

The Jillians dont pick a "Real" timeline, they just stitch it together in some fashion.

Helps that they arent humans and think very differently.

What mods do you guys suggest for someone who hates Skyrim (played through main quest once and it was boring), but wants to play anyway because there's a special edition and all. Besides I want to finally check out what that game has to offer.

I'm strictly Morrowind guy and mods that make Skyrim more like Morrowind would be what I want. I bet there's lots of people here like me, so if it's not too much trouble for you guys, please list your mods.

Is there any info on how Boethia and Mephala felt about the Tribunal? Azura's opinion is rather clear. (Apparently Boethia fucked with Almalexia in ESO?)

>>51818199
>Favorite race
Waaaay too hard to choose. And annoyingly the races I like most tend to hate each other. For example I love Dunmer and the Beast races, but well, dunmer tend to enslave beastkin.

I also like the more animalistic versions of Bosmer with horns/antlers and such. And the Orcs with little face horns.
>Favorite Province
Elswhyr
>Favorite Game
Haven't managed to play enough Morrowind, let alone older games to judge them.
>Favorite Aedra
Kyne or Yffre maybe?
>Favorite Daedra
Impossible to choose, I love so many of them, but also hate some of the same ones I love. Hircine, Sanguine, Sheo in a good mood, Malacath. Azura maybe?
>Blood type
Cold
>SSN
I ain't no commie.
>Penis size
Immeasurable, you decide what direction that means.
>Anal Circ
I have no idea.

>>51818712
Morrowloot
Morrowind Music Integration

There are also many Morrowind or Dwemer themed quest.

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Would you play an isometric TES?

>>51818712
Most of the big mods that you'd need to make Skyrim feel like Morrowind are not ported to Skyrim Special Education, since it has no Script Extender yet. (Tenative April release date for the new script extender) really, "best" advice is to talk in the /vg/ thread for mods.

>>51818199
>>Favorite Race
Dwemer

>>Favorite Province
Skyrim

>>Favorite Game
Skyrim

>>Favorite Aedra
Akatosh

>>Favorite Daedra
Azura

>>Blood Type
B+

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>>51816986
where did this "dwemer are the bad guys" thing come from

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>>51818199
>Favorite Race
dunmer
>Favorite Province
Morrowind. Valenwood or Skyrim (the lore version) are close seconds.
>Favorite Game
Morrowind for story and magic, skyrim for exploration and stealth archer meme
>Favorite Aedra
>>implying
>Favorite Daedra
Azura, or maybe Mephala. I hate how Skyrim turned Mephala and Boethiah into straight murderers.

>>51818829
Morrowloot is good example of what I want.
>>51818878
I don't care for mods that change mechanics if that's what you mean. I'm okay with Skyrim's casuel mechanics. Just want it to feel like Morrowind in terms of world, dank lores and atmosphere.

>>51819074
Kagrenac mostly.

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>>51819233
>Just want it to feel like Morrowind in terms of world, dank lores and atmosphere.
SHotN (Skyrim: Home of the Nords) desu

>>51819308
I know that will be superior choice for my Skyrim needs, but is it out already?

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>>51819352
I think one release a few years ago is all they've put out by now, unfortunately.

>>51819298
>Kagrenac
He did absolutely nothing wrong. Everything is Tribunal's fault

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>>51819438

>>51819074
>Enslave an entire race
>Not bad

>>51819545
He is literally the Buddha, LITERALLY

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>>51819147
>Skyrim (the lore version)

>>51818199
>Favorite Race
some three-way tie between Breton, Bosmer, and Altmer
>Favorite Province
no clue
>Favorite Game
still no clue
>Favorite Aedra
Julianos/Stendarr
>Favorite Daedra
Hermaeus Mora

>>51818199
>Favorite Race
Tie between Dunmer & Dwemer
>Favorite Province
Resdayn
>Favorite Game
Morrowind
>Favorite Aedra
Tie between Dibella & Mara
>Favorite Daedra
Mephala

>>51818199
NORD
SKYRIM
SKYRIM
TALOS
WHAT?
WHAT?
SKYRIM
WHAT?
HUGE
HUGE

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>>51800842
Hammerfell

>>51800842
Ascadian Isles

Hey I'm running a UESRPG session tomorrow and need your help my dudes. I'm looking for like, a compendium of oblivion dungeon maps / ayleid ruins maps that ARENT annotated with monster and treasure spawns. Just floor plans so I can string together some ayleid ruins real easy. all I can find on the Google machine are annotated floor plans and I want blank ones

>>51818199
>Favorite Race
Dwemer, 10/10 would love to play a tech-elf
>Favorite Province
Daggerfall
>Favorite Game
Morrowind
>Favorite Aedra
Magnus, Lorkhan (not the Loki faggot version) Trinimac
>Favorite Daedra
Malcath, other than them fuck all of them. Especially Azura idk why people like her. She's a scheming bitch & is not nice like people think.

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Are you ready, mortals? >:)

>>51820602
>this entire post

>>51818199
>Favorite Race
Imperials, the best form of Humans, so far
>Favorite Province
Cyrodiil, Skyrim
>Favorite Game
Skyrim
>Favorite Aedra
Akatosh and Imperials are Akatosh's chosen people, stupid Goy...
>Favorite Daedra
Molag Bal.
Sure hes an A**hole, but I respect those, who strive for conquest and domination
Also Sheogorath, because of CHEEEEESE! and because he is a humen ascended to be daedra

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>>51820760

Looking at some Daggerfall portraits, you do occasionally see Bretons with yellow eyes. So I guess that's kind of neat.

>>51818558
I really like that it sort of works both as a creation myth and as a model for Clan Mothers and Favoured Daughters.
Just like Fadomai tells Azurah her secrets, the act of telling this story involves the Clan Mother telling her secrets to her Favoured Daughter.

>>51820550
There are kind of lightly annotated. But you're going to have to do some editing anyway.
http://guides.gamepressure.com/theelderscrolls4oblivion/guide.asp?ID=2531

>>51819147
>Azura, or maybe Mephala. I hate how Skyrim turned Mephala and Boethiah into straight murderers.
All Daedra have different aspects that seem to wax and wane

>>51818878
>>51819233
Expanded cities, dialogue, extra quests, all sorts of lore-based improvements need the Script Extender. You're better off sticking to standard edition unless you REALLY hate snow, rain, and blown snow clipping through buildings.

>>51822099
>>51819147
Hilariously, Molag Bal's quest is LESS evil than Boethiah and Mephala, since the Stendar guy gives in to the fear first if you wait patiently and the Boethiah cultist is a dickbag cultist.

The others you need to betray people!

>>51820820
Is that every game's fish model?

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>>51822071
Thank you my dude

>Be born Nord
>Have red hair
>People keep trying to push red color related or fire related monikers on me
How do I make it stop? Do I just kill them?

>>51818199
>Favorite Race
Orsimer, if I can play one that's kind of weird in some way. I like having the scary monstrous race subvert expectations and turn out to be a philosophizing bard or a self-proclaimed knight or something along those lines.
If I'm sticking to a more traditional view of the races, probably Breton. I love that questing is seen as a totally normal and expected thing for young people to do as they grow up in their culture. It's hilarious. Plus, can't beat that natural magic resist.

>Favorite Province
Valenwod sounds the most fantastical to me, with the giant mobile tree cities and all. If our next game is set there, I hope they do it justice and it doesn't get the treatment Cyrodiil did in Oblivion.

>Favorite Game
Skyrim.

>Favorite Aedra
Kynareth. Goddess of the sky and patron of travelers. Seems fitting for the wandering heroes we usually end up as.

>Favorite Daedra
Malacath hands down. He might be more than a little vengeful, but damn does he look after his own. He seems like the easiest to get along with so long as you're tough enough to meet his standards. And if you're an outcast of any kind, he probably has a bit of sympathy for you. Or possessiveness. Daedric lord and all.

>>51818199
>Favorite Race
Argonian
>Favorite Province
Morrowind, but Skyrim is close second
>Favorite Game
Oblivion because it introduced me to this series
>Favorite Aedra
Kyne
>Favorite Daedra
Hermaeus Mora
>>Blood Type
B
>Address
somewhere in East Europe
>Penis size
Don't have one

>>51822683
>Sven the bloodied

Hah, get fucked

>>51818199
>Imperial
>Morrowind
>Skyrim
>Talos
>Sanguine
>6.66 inches

>>51819074
The fate of the Falmer is the big one. To summarize; the snow elves were getting wrecked by an army of crazed/drunk Nord barbarians, and tried to retreat to the Dwemer for help. The Dwemer, with boundless generosity, decided the best way to keep them safe was to round up every last snow elf they could find, enslave them, force feed them magic toxic fungus until the entire race went blind, and then did... something, that bumped their literal souls down a notch from white (sapient, intelligent beings) to black (monsters and beasts).

Then the Dwemer poofed themselves out of existence, a few thousand years go by, and the snow elves have physically and mentally degraded into the psychotically violent, eyeless, poison drenched cave squatters we know today.

The moral here is, take better care of your pets, for the sake of future generations.

>>51822805
>Liking Mora
Are you begging to be backstabbed?

Be my girlfriend!

>>51823087
got the soul colors mixed up, bud

>>51823087
>crazed/drunk Nord barbarians
kys faggot

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>>51822206
I think this one is based off Morrowind's. Oblivion's looks like shit, but Skyrim's looks similar to Morrowind's, with the snake-like unhinging.
>>51822798
>Malacath
>Daedric Lord
I can hear all the other Princes laughing.
>>51823216
>kys faggot
At least act like you're not some trashy /v/ermin crossboarder.

>>51820631
"Your world would have been better off if the Planemeld had succeeded…There are worse masters than I. Far worse..."
What did you mean by this?

>>51823180
Ah, so I did. My bad. You get what I'm saying though.

>>51823365
I think it's the reference to the oblivion crisis

>>51823087
>Then the Dwemer poofed themselves out of existence, a few thousand years go by, and the snow elves have physically and mentally degraded into the psychotically violent, eyeless, poison drenched cave squatters we know today.
they degraded into that before the dwemer poofed away, in fact they fought the dwemer a lot and could not be defeated, the dwemer really fucked themselves over because they turned falmer into perfect cave dwellers

>>51823216
t. nord barbar

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>>51823365
It's probably in reference to Dagon, and how he wants to see everything DIE instead of just get raped/enslaved. Honestly the entire main quest of that game was just a fustercluck. Comfy concept art though.

>>51823374
I did, just thought you should know

>>51823087
>>51823180
Interestingly the Dwemer phrased it as some magnanimous gift according to the translation of Calcelmo's stone.
>>51823389
Where did they say that?

>>51823411
Other than the buildings, not enough crystal and glass.

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>>51823511
Here, this one has some crystals.

>>51823579
I've seen better architecture in WoW.

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>>51823680
Well you're not wrong.

>>51823579
>>51823712
I just wish they had the balls to go crazy with things. I think they don't want to risk alienating fans of "Gritty" fantasy, but it just makes everything so damned BLAND.

>>51816986
>tfw still think this is a good idea

>tfw no game set in the regions adjacent to the Druadach mountains, full of Orcs, Falmer, Forsworn, and shit

>>51823802
I think they're just lazy and don't have an imagination.

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>>51823579
That's not Summerset, that's Eyevea, Shalidor's private retreat for the Mage's Guild.

>>51824109
I think they ran out of ideas. Kinda like Skrim having a reduced staff of dungeon makers making even more dungeons than in Oblivion, Zeni had a small team designing the entire continent instead of a single province...and various planes of Oblivion. At some point you're just tapped.

I feel they used it all up with Ebonheart and Oblivion since everything else feels half assed.

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>>51823802
>>51824109
i think the Argonian architecture for one is pretty much spot on.
But its not pretty so nobody talks about it. But Mud huts that look like weird Onions made out of feces is exactly what i would imagien argonians living in.
The same goes for the Orc Architecture, sure its not fancy high fantasy shit but its sturdy and a big step above the weird tents from skyrim.

Basically the Art team was overstretched and clearly wasted a lot of potential by doing everything at once.
and it shows when you compare the vanilla game to the post release content in terms of asset quaity and how many different things there actually are.

At least they didnt make the mistake of Showing Alinor, only realy touching on Auridon aka the "Foreign Quarter" of the summersets.

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>Wait.. Cyrodiil is the home of an Empire?

Why does she say this?
>Cyrodiil is named after Reman Cyrodiil, the founder of the first empire, who in turn took his name from the ancient word for the province, Cyrod

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>>51818199
>>Favorite Race
Bretons, Colovians, Reachmen, and Hist
>>Favorite Province
Blackmarsh
>>Favorite Game
Sadly, got into the games late and never got around to playing most of them. I usually spend most of my time and get my fun from reading lore
>>Favorite Aedra
Toss-up between Kyne, Stuhn, and Jhunval
>>Favorite Daedra
Molouch
>>Blood Type
Red
>>Address
Earf
>>Social Security Number
36-28-42, if you know what I mean.
>>Penis size
Unimpressive
>>Anal circumference
DC80 Escape Artist

>>51822683
They're Nords, just distract them by dangling some keys in front of them or asking them about why Talos is so great.

>>51818199
Just as a general note I hate picking favourites and don't have the habit of ranking shit.

>Favorite Race
Khajiit, probably. I like Dunmer and Bretons a lot too. Orsimer have grown on me a lot lately.

>Favorite Province
Morrowind is my favourite that has been represented in a game, probably Elsweyr in lore.

>Favorite Game
Morrowind for lore and atmosphere, Daggerfall for making characters and goofing around in dungeons.

>Favorite Aedra
Mara or Dibella, maybe.

>Favorite Daedra
Azura and Meridia are fun.

>Blood Type
O+

>Address
666 *Teleports behind you* Avenue, Nothing Personnel City

>Social Security Number
666-69-1488

>Penis size
A bit above 16 cubic inches.

>Anal circumference
As of yet unknown.

>>51824151
IIRC it was a part of the Summerset Isles before it got magicked away by the Duke of Cheese & Stale Memes.

>>51824559
I think she's meant to have been in stasis since before Reman was around.

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>>51824735
Yeah, but then she wouldn't have called it Cyrodiil.

>>51824752
Well, the player's line immediately preceeding hers refers to it as Cyrodill, so maybe she just inferred.

>>51809362

Sfw or nsfw?

>>51822683
You REALLY like to dance close to the fire, don't you

>>51818199
>Favorite Race
Colovian, or Nibenese depending on what I feel like that day

>Favorite Province
Elsweyr, where you'll find my Imperials bringing culture to the dirty savages.

>Favorite Game
I don't really got a favorite. If I had a choice for a dream game, dual wielding spell/weapons of Skyrim with spell crafting and scaling of Oblivion, with story of Morrowind.

>Favorite Aedra
Mara, the offshoot one that doesn't mind polygamy

>Favorite Daedra
Sanguine, Bros for Life yo.

>Blood Type
Red and runny

>Address
In a hole in the ground

>Social Security Number
I have one of those?

>Penis size
12.7 quadratic metameters

>Anal circumference
9.23142313e-12 decatrons

>>51809362
Start off with some of the stock lines from Morrowind for comparison.
>we make a special trip just for you, same low price
>why walk when you can ride
>what do you think of our fair city, outlander
>Mournhold! City of light! City of magic!

>>51824752
Cyrodiil was referred to as Cyrodiil long before Reman Cyrodiil.

>>51824836
Seen any... Elves?
Hahahaha!

>>51824903
Fairly sure Reman was named Cyrodiil because his mother is literaly cyrodiil... or a hillock fucked by King Hrol, whatever.

>>51824928
And also Alessia in the form of a mound of dirt.

Seriously, that bitch was KINKY! Fucking flying Minotaurs and coming back from the dead to turn into a hillock to seduce some king.

>>51824928
Exactly, Reman took the name Cyrodiil to solidify himself AS Cyrodiil
>Traditionally, anyone strong enough to take the Imperial Throne is known as the ‘Cyrodiil,’ no matter the province kingdom of their birth. It’s a complicated the-king-is-the-land kind of thing that reaches back to the time when the Elves ruled the area before it was taken from them by the First Empire of the Nords. “Cyrodiil” is a pretty blanket term for every element of the Imperial Province: its common provincial name is Cyrodiil, the capital city is named Cyrodiil, the people are the Cyrodiils, and the Emperor is “The Cyrodiil.” A lot of people still think it comes from the surname of Reman Cyrodiil, who built the region into the Second Empire of Men, but, really, he just took its ancient Elven name and stuck it onto his own (sorta like somebody in our world calling themselves “Jonny America”)

>>51825073
>I AM CYRODIIL COME

>>51824880
>City of light! City of magic! City of Compton!

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Now that it's no longer weekend thread, it's time to release the shitposting within.

>>51825217
How about no?

>>51809362
>well, well, well, aren't you a tasty little morsel

>>51825248

You're not his dad, you can't tell him what to do!

>Is there any link between the ancient nords coming from At*moria* and and Hermeas *Mora*? Some piece of lore I read call the armorians "Kings of Mora"

>>51825349
No. "Mora" just means "Forest", and is a component in many names.

>>51825349
The word Mora probably has something to do with the Sea.

>>51825454
Oh, forest, my bad then.

>>51825248
How about yes? There's a reason why TES threads are kept to the weekends. Because without that rule, people would run out of things to say, and it'd devolve into useless funposting.

It's a schedule you know. Friday night to Sunday night is serious lore discussion time, Monday to tuesday or however long the thread lasts is shitposting time. It lets you do both in a controlled enviroment without infringing on other peoples serious discussion, you know?

>>51825349
I'll use this chance to tell you that Mogal Bal means Fire Stone.
You're now free to guess what Balmora means.

>>51812501
>I think that's more a case of town guards being pathetically weak in-game.

I've seen them kill dragons.

>>51825672
Dragon AI is really bad. There is a reason people memed about bears and trolls being more frightening, they don't give you a breather, or the town guards one for that matter. A werewolf PC fights with more tenacity than a dragon.

>>51825833
My fear when fighting dragons is always that they'll get distracted by a juicy NPC and ditch me midfight. By the time I reach them it's always too late.

>>51826613
I justify that in my own head- lore: Dragons have very short attention spans so soon after they wake up.

>oh man, I love flying!
>feels so good to stretch
>hey! Is that the dragonborn motherfucker I heard about
>I'll beat his ass, I'll tell you what.
>fuck I'm really hungry
>HOLY CRAP A HORKER! That's some good eatins right there
>Shit is that a Giant?
>after several millennia I just remembered I hate those dumb fucks.
>Wait, was there something I was doing?
>oh roght, Dragonborn
>and now I'm dead
>oh bugger

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>>51820820
>>51822206
It is now. Top right are the Morrowind Slaughterfish and Small Slaughterfish. Bottom right is Oblivion, bottom left if Skyrim.

>>51821956
You can also have yellow eyes in Skyrim. I wish there'd bring back the purple eyes from Morrowind.
>>51822683
I think it's something a fortune reader gives them as a vague prediction of their future. Little did they know what they predicted was everyone associating their hair with fire in a strange self fulfilling prophecy.

>>51819798
Then the Tribunal did the right thing in killing him.

>>51828159
>Tribunal
>Doing something right
They can't do anything right anon, they fucked up.

>>51818199
>Favourite Race
it's a close tie between Dunmer and Nord. Argonian gets a honourable mention

>Favourite Province
If Solstheim was a province then yes. Otherwise, Skyrim if only for lore

>Favourite Game
Morrowind to fuck around by breaking the shit out of it, Skyrim to fuck around with mods

>Favourite Aedra
Kyne

>Favourite Daedra
also a tie between Herma Mora or Sheogorath

>Blood Type
PISS AND VINEGAR

>Address
Parish church of St. Mary
in the Hollow of the White Hazel township near the rapid whirlpool and the parish church of St. Tysilio with a red cave

>SSN
>being a dirty commie

>Penis size
1dInfinity

>Anal Circ.
1dInfinity

>>51800842
Solstheim. Even though it's terrible

>>51828224
If they fucked up then Kargrenac cannot be the Buddha, because killing him is what you're supposed to do.

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>http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2017/02/20/eso-morrowind--vvardenfell-flora-and-fauna

>Fetcherflies
>Shroom Beatles
>Vvardvarks

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>>51829580
>Cliff Striders
Who the actual fuck wrote this?

>>51818834
yes

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>>51829580
>Online """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""lore""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
what the shit

>>51829618
>>51829680
What's the issue? Some of this seems pretty cool, like the swarm that animates its hive to move around.

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>>51829580
Jesus Christ.

>>51829618
What? Cliffracers still exist, and they're still horrifying.

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>>51829580
What the fuck is this derpy abomination? Why not just make it a guar?
>>51829752
They are pretty damn spooky looking.

>>51829718
Some of them aren't bad, but the naming is awful. i don't think I'd mind the "Vvardvarks" is it wasn't a pun and they went with a name like a Weni.
>>51829752
They literally just mashed up Cliffracer and Silt Strider's names for the sake of it. Don't try and defend that.

>>51829802
>Why not just make it a guar?
Because guars, alit, and kagouti are already in the game.

>>51829802
>They literally just mashed up Cliffracer and Silt Strider's names for the sake of it. Don't try and defend that.
You're seriously getting offended over that?

>>51829580
>http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2017/02/20/eso-morrowind--vvardenfell-flora-and-fauna
>that concept art with greenery and flowers and shit growing literally next to a gash of molten rock
Bothers me way more than it honestly should

>>51829797
>derpy abomination
God I know, two legged vaguely reptilian animals in Vvardenfell, how fucking stupid do they have to be?

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>>51829580
>Fetcherflies

>Hey guys I played Morrowind for a few minutes and this drow called me a Fetcher. Let's build some lore on that!

>>51829857
Grass... does actually grow in volcanic areas you realize. Even in the original Morrowind the point was that Vvardenfell's volcanic activity made it super fertile.

>>51829850
That's merely one aspect I don't like. Shill all you want, senpai.

>>51829580
Why does it feel like two guys nitpicking over the stupidest things to get angry over with this. I don't actually see anything wrong.

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>>51829867
>two legged vaguely reptilian animals in Vvardenfell
Which is why I said "Why not just make it a guar"

>>51818199
>Favorite Race
The Redguard. They have so much cool shit that we don't really hear about in the rest of the games, like Sword-Singing, and whatever the fuck is going on with them and time. I want to explore their history and culture.
>Favorite Province
Morrowind. It's a very different place from most fantasy, and has a lot of stuff that you just don't expect to see.
>Favorite Game
Skyrim. It's incredibly comfy when you get into roleplaying, after mods.
>Favorite Aedra
Talos, because his inception story is so fucked up with Soul Stacking bullshit and Underkings.
>Favorite Daedra
Mehrunes Dagon, because I respect his attempt at taking over the world.

>>51829896
Not that close to fucking lava though
Like directly next to it, are you kidding me

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>>51829929
Actually that is possible.

>>51829918
Because there's already guars.

>>51829580
>>Fetcherflies
who came up with this name

>>51829912
Nah, people just have different images of Vvardenfel, and when they feel like it's portrayed wrong, they feel the very heart of what TES is to them is portrayed wrong.

That being said, besides the names most of it is alright.

>>51829966
That one is probably the most interesting creature there.

>>51829949
That's not a permanent lava flow.
Permanent ones look like Mordor.

>>51829966
God I know. I bet they'd name the big river bugs something stupid, like silt striders, because they stride along silt. Or the bird creatures something retarded like I don't know, cliffracers.
Oh oh, I bet because we can't call them zombies they'll just call them bonewalkers. Get it? Even though they're mostly rotting flesh?

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>>51829797
What the fuck, did they just cross an actual fucking aardvark with a pangolin and a guar? And there are people who defend this?
I don't want to live on this plane(t) anymore.

>>51829989
Yeah, mostly because the lava flows into and destroys it. Even in hawaii there was grass growing all over the places where it commonly erupted but no lava had flowed in a while.
Plus even in Morrowind you had plants that had adapted to grow right next to lava and survive frequent ash storms.

>>51830033
You have issues.

>>51830002
They took an insult from Morrowind, and slapped it on a creature. It may be a cool creature, but that's just shit.

Silt Striders is a good name, as is Cliffracer. I really don't see why you think they're the same because it's descriptive.