Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

Reposting

>>51792208 #

Read the glorious victory section of the 2 pagerules, if your opponent has no models on the table you immediately claim a major victory.

The generals handbook does not override this, the victory conditions of a battle plan only come into effect when there's still two armies on the field.

>>51792552
You are wrong.

>>51792552
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>>51792552
Also reposting. Sure buddy. If you think so.

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We need more cheesecake and waifus. Even BBfags have lewds >>51786458

>>51792615
How many STDs does she have?

>>51792635
many.

>>51792635
A multiple of seven.

>>51792635
You'd have to break out the Tallyband

>>51792568
>>51792584
>>51792592

Neat.

Makes early objective grabbing even more important than before.

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Repostan.

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>>51792743
We should add a new releases category to OP post. Are mega links updated?

>>51792592

So if you table your opponent on Turn 2... but he managed to grab like... 11 vps somehow, and you have 3 vps as you were busy exterminating his shit...

Do you then take your turn 3.
Then 4.
Then 5.

While your opponent stares at you with his hands in his pockets?

>>51792809
Exactly. Or you just quickly measure how far away your units are from the objectives and see if your opponent wants to concede

>>51792809
Unless you are literally retarded the whole thing will last a few minutes at best. You just have to move on the objectives, you don't even have to physically move the whole unit.

>>51792552
I bet you use sudden victory too.

>>51792843

>a few minutes

yeah of course, It was more to state / enquire.

>If you wipe out your opponent on turn X, you then have Y turns to claim VPs before the game ends.

>>51792511

>Unless you are literally retarded the whole thing will last a few minutes at best.

I meant at worse. At best it will be

>Dude I am in range to take all the objectives from turn three onwards, it means 27 points.

>>51792892
Ugh, meant for >>51792843

Has the awesome new book, made it harder to do a "your dudes" army?

>Want that certain bonus? Betta paint those suckas gold!
>Want this bonus? Gleaming Silver or go home!

>>51793009
Ehm, you know you're not forced to paint your guys of a certain colours, don't you? Only meet the FOC requirements.

Are the battletomes or grand alliance books necessary?

>>51793149

Do you want extra stuff like batallions and traits/relics? Then grab battletomes and GA books (though the latter only for batallions).
You don't really care? Just grab GHB.

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Ok my last nurgle hero for my army. This is a chaos lord on daemonic mount with mark of nurgle.

The posing is a bit weird because it looks like he's about to fall backwards, but the picture is making it look worse i think. IRL it looks like he's leaning back to strike with his hammer.

>>51793009

No in fact they say you can use the specific stormhost rules as any custom stormhost.

A lot of hero customization was added with the extra new equipment, general abilities, mount abilities and prayers.

Add that on top of the character upgrades from the campaign rules and stormcast are one of the most "your dudes" armies you can get

>>51793192
Aren't traits and relics for most factions in GHB? Most of battletomes are not updated like SCE and Sylvaneth in this place

>>51793293
What models did you use to make this one?

>>51793293
>>51793330
yeah I wanna know where to get that lizard mount thing

>>51793330
>>51793348
That's the gorebeast from the chaos chariot kit. The rider is a mix of brlightking with stormcast eternal bits. The hammer is from the ogors kit. The tentacles are dracoth tails with suction cups greenstuffed on

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>>51792615

>>51793293
except for the fact that the fat fuck is about to fall backward off the thing I think its at least a 6/10 idea.

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>>51792615

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>>51793395

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>Mfw LGS owner refused to add an AoS category on his online store because "this shit will be dead in few months so why bother"
Mein Gott - how can be one this salty? He is literally undermining his own business

>>51793485
Many LGS make the mistake of selling only what they like rather than what the customer wants

>>51793485
It's funny, because most of them will call themselves "Diehard fantasy fans", when Fantasy barely sold anything since most people already had their armies, which is pretty detrimental to a store owner.

>>51793009
No. The meta-battalions are not restricted to certain stormhosts and between a assload of relics and traits, a huge selection of units and a variety of possible playstyles Stormcast are probably the most versatile subfaction to make a 'your dudes' force, with only Tzeentch coming close right now.
Now, the big question is if that will hold true for the next books. Battletome Duardin containing Dispossessed, Fyreslayers and the rumored Steamhead, with distinct traits, relics, prayers and such for each faction? That'd be amazing.

>>51793522
How did they get their armies if they never bought anything?

>>51793549
on that topic, I'm looking for inspiration for a "your dudes" tzeentch army flavor

>>51793569
Third party.

>>51793569
They bought them a long time ago and used the same models, rarely ever adding more.

>>51793429
Ugh, you're right. I guess i just needed someone else to say it. I'm redoing the rider now as we speak, breaking bits off. I can really deny it no longer. I'll bring pics when the deed is done.

>>51793633
will be much better for your effort, no doubt.

>>51793549
It probably will. The real question is shadow aelves when?

>>51793569
I don't know why, but I keked

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>>51793644
Hopefully. Does this look better? I add the legs when his pose is finalized

>>51793451
>Tfw you'll never be a dirty marauder that gets forced into a war with Tzneetch Cult
>Tfw you will never be hit by a Tzaangor Shaman's magic, and get turned into a hot bird babe.

Just end my life, Archaon Sempai.

God damn the Griff-Chargers look awesome, why couldn't the Drakoths look half this awesome?

>>51793451
We need female stormcasts. THICC LADIES!

>>51793485
Funny thing, a store owner in my area said the same... six months ago or so.

Guess which store closed two months ago?

Quite ironic.

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>>51793731
I'd settle for some head options even, leaves it to the imagination.

that said I'm looking to find the best kits to nab a torso from for a Tzaangor shameness, might also mix with a Griff hound head ro something to make for a more gracefull visage

>>51793746
You should call him up to rub salt in the wounds.

>>51793746
They will probably never learn and will be crying even after AoS death let's face it - every game will be somehow dead in the end. I'm happy that at least few WHFB players have picked up their shit and tried to play AoS. Now we have a 5-people group at only AoS-friendly LGS - I know it's nearly nothing but I would rather say it's a first step

>>51793716
Not this Anon but it's better imo

>>51793451
FURFAGS REEEEquesting something like this but for Skavens

>>51793731
Shame that drawthread drawfriends will probably ignore clearly lewd request

>>51793726
I really wish the Lord-Aquillor rode a gryph-charger and not a derp-bird. The gryph-chargers look waaaay cooler.

>>51793795
I was talking of fan-art.

But I also agree on that.

Assembling my vanguard hunters now:

The pictures don't do them justice, they're much more dynamically posed than liberators.

>>51793731

The new book actually confirmed female stormcast.

It didn't name any but it did say that stormcast are pulled from both men and women

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>>51793934
It was actually confirmed a while ago.

>>51793985

Ah cool.

Yeah unlike female space marines, female stormcast seem much more appropriate to the setting.

I wouldn't mind a female prosecutor model that does the whole Valkyrie look

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>>51793869
Not too much of that floating around, unfortunatly.

As an aside, around one third of my stormhost's named leadership is female.

>>51793913
Yeah, it's a good kit.
On the other hand, I am not too happy with the Gryph-hounds. Only three poses and some of the heads look very strange on some torsos.

>>51793746
>LGS has been closed for a decade now
>Local charity shop that replaced it still has old artwork of a Space Marine on its side.

>>51794030
>>51794033
I do the same. I also give about one-in-five of my Stormcast a female head.

I don't really know why GW/BL are so hesitant to actually give a named female Stormcast character, since they're explicitly stated to exist. Not even as a playable one, just one of those character blurbs that pop up in the battletomes, or a character in one of the novels.

Can someone sell me on the "Ride the Winds Aetheric" special ability?

I'm drawing a blank of how this could be useful? I mean you can't even charge after using it and you might roll really low so the default 12inch move is better anyway. I get you can run through units as if you had flying but still not being able to charge is just too much of a downside.

>>51794110
I suspect it's because even GW isn't sure what to make of them yet.
Like, do they want them to be regular stormcast in terms of design (which saves effort)? Or do they want them to be a seperate unit (which would be a new kit that can be sold, but would need to be created from scratch).

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>>51793985

>Female Stormcast Chambers

I need this. I need this now... for needs.

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>>51794110
why do you need one?

>/aosg/ will now have the same faggots that ask for Sisters of Battle

Please, no.

>>51794144
Deposit your palladors behind another unit, activate the ability, hurtle over enemy troops if you rolled a satisfactory distance, shove a bunch of javelins and bolts into a soft unit or two, then sit there and dare your opponent to engage you.
And if you don't roll high enough you remain where you are and pelt the advancing enemy army from relative safety.

Grot sky pirates when?

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>>51794110
>>51794196
I'm still disappointed that SCE are not just a living vengeance wearing an armour. I would like to see them as human that renounced their humanity, feeling and bodies to bring justice. No gender or personality behind the mask - just revenge

>>51794322
never, they are a meme army with no plan in motion to have them as anything more than a footnote in an irrelevant event on the timeline.

Any artists up in this bitch? Someone design a female stormcast armor.

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>>51793293
>>51793429
>>51793716
>>51793852
Ok, so I finished the repose. He does look much better. He looks like he's holding his hammer up rather than falling off his beast.

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>>51794432
Done. Now what?

>>51794327
>man, those stormcast are just golem-like automata, that sucks
>man, those stormcast aren't golem-like automata, that sucks
Sometimes you just can't win.

Have you guys noticed that in the hinterlands or regiments of renown supplements, that it's nearly impossible to play ogors of any kind?

>>51794207
It's not that I need to see any named Femcast, so much as I don't understand why GW is so hesitant to make some, despite them being explicitly stated to exist.

>>51794196
I think that may be it, though. I hope they don't designate special roles for Femcast, though. Stormcast don't strike me as much caring about sex. If you pass the trials and/or were sufficiently heroic prior to death, you're good to go. Plus, they're all magically-enhanced, so the -4 STR argument that some may bring up is moot.

>>51794327
Personally, I like that Stormcast seem even more human than Space Marines (until they get reforged too many times, anyway). One of the short stories I read had the Stormcast characters absolutely furious about orcs hunting down humans like animals, practically personally offended by the idea of their people being under such a state of fear.

I know there are Space Marine chapters that care about common humans, but the way it's written with Stormcast seems much more genuine.

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>>51794729

Ehh who cares at this point,

You want them to be iron warriors? Fucking go for it. Tbh a chamber themed around sieges and shit while... un-stormcasty would be kinda cool.

It's his money, his lore, his hobby. I don't even give a fuck at this point.

Is the storm cast battalion in the op link the new one? The new rules are actually enticing me, even though I was never interested. Before. 12 magical artefacts!

>>51794720
>I know there are Space Marine chapters that care about common humans, but the way it's written with Stormcast seems much more genuine.
I also really enjoy that. It's a nice touch and gives them some humanity you might believe has been lost to them.

>>51792743
Can anyone recommend a Windows epub reader that can actually zoom in so I can get a readable text size on this?

Or just a good tool to turn it into a pdf?

Holy crap, I'm finally seeing just how balanced the different lesser daemons with respect to eachother are in AOS

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WE

>>51795477
Explain

>>51795501
Compare daemonettes and bloodletters. Two units with similar purposes. GW has made it so they function differently, but with what appears to be the same efficiency.

>>51795498
waz kangs?
are the crystal gems?
are the martians?
will rock you?

>>51795477
Tfw well never see slaanesh and nurgle get upgraded daemons

What army kills stormcast shitters the best?

>>51795498
Where da wyt wymin at.

>>51795659
Tzeentch

Best-claw

More storm-shitters

Sylvaneth???

>>51795640
You don't like the current plaguebearers?

>>51795741
I'm cool with all of the lesser daemons. Things like beasts and fiends could use some tuning. I was mainly talking about the greater daemons. Bloodthirsters and LoC both have 14 wounds Thule GUO and KoS have 10

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>>51795498

>>51794327

Some Stormhosts are like that though, even a normal stormhost can have a chamber made from their most reforged stormcast who know nothing but righteous anger

Look at what happened to Thostos bladestorm after he reforged. Dude got cataclysmic mad.

>>51795870
Aren't they doing Slaanesh soon or was that a meme?

>>51795589
From what I heard from lots of anons here is that Daemonettes blow Bloodletters out of the water in most situations.

What is it Bloodletters do that brings their efficiency up to Daemonette levels?

>>51795920
I hope it's not a meme. A plastic keeper would make my day

>>51795741

GUO has less wounds than LoC is so fucking stupid its not even funny.

>>51795741
>You don't like the current plaguebearers?

in spite of the meme about them being good they are actually underwhelming for the points they cost.

>>51796020
Theyre good in large numbers buffed by GUOs. Independently they suck

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Just made a realization about the AoS setting, that's pretty depressing. Sigmar goes on and on about how important it is to reclaim the people of the mortal realms, but then they're treated like shit when they do get reintegrated into the cities of Order.
Basically, there's a refugee crisis in the mortal realms and the reclaimed have constantly been treated like shit ever since Sigmar closed the gates.

>>51796071
Making azyr great again

>>51795920
>>51795968

During WHFB end times Nurgle got the love (arguably in spite of no new GUO and no new daemons). AOS first releases were khorne and new Bloodthirster, now we see Tzeentch. So seems since every other god got stuff more recently than Slaanesh that it should be Slannesh up next but there is nothing to base that on except wishful thinking.

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>>51796091
the alt-right's favorite army.

>>51796097
Knowing GW we'll see a new Khorne Bloodbound release, then Nurgle and finally Slaanesh.

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>>51796123
Maybe if we all commit mass suicide while butt-fucking, wearing nipple electrodes and cutting

>>51796097
We'll follow the story. The reason we are seeing tzeentch is because khorne and Nurgle are getting their asses kicked in, so tzeentch is now taking king of the hill in the chaos realm.

So the story dictates releases. It is implied that slaanesh' fate is tied with the selves. So when the story gets to the elves, it will likely get to slaanesh

>>51795498
Would it have killed them to make their fast calvary have some lighter armour

>>51793569

Before the End Times there were a lot of people who would buy third party for various armies, Empire, Bretonnia, and Vampire Counts come to mind specifically. Part of the reason that Mantic is even a thing is because they were able to scrape by either selling their stuff as an alternative or as unit fillers.

Both 40k and Fantasy also have people who for what ever reason amass collections for one army into obscenely high points levels.

>>51794327

I kind of like that the Stormcast are just Order versions of Chaos Warriors. Also if they were as you described the whole thing with them running the risk of losing bits of their humanity with every reforging wouldn't be possible.

>>51794766

If I recall correctly the new lore does hint at Stormcast who've set up keeps, so I wouldn't be surprised if some come around who are all about defense. Them having siege engines and such doesn't seem too out there either.

>>51793451
I need more of this

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>>51796490
>Before the End Times there were a lot of people who would buy third party for various armies, Empire, Bretonnia, and Vampire Counts come to mind specifically. Part of the reason that Mantic is even a thing is because they were able to scrape by either selling their stuff as an alternative or as unit fillers.
Pretty much. With GW at the time completely abandoning the competitive scene, people felt free to use a lot of 3rd party minis and bits, which in a way took sales from GW.

This all combined with a dwindling fanbase. End Times revitalized some enthusiasm with whfb, but whether that alone would have been enough to save the game is really unknown at this point. All things considered now, AoS is reporting better fantasy sales than whfb had in years and I seriously doubt GW has any regrets with the whole decision.

So it definitely can be argued that whfb was dwindling because of GW, but it can't be argued that it wasn't dwindling and not making the company enough money.

>>51796419

But they wear the lighter vanguard armor and have a 4+ instead of the dracothian 3+

Sure, Warhammer sales were down (but still higher than any other fantasy game).

But they could have revamped the rules and lessened the entrance barrier without shitting all over the previous lore and existing armies.

>>51797030
Amen to that. And maybe try to make the rules a little more fluid? idk, its such a drag sometime.

>>51794110
>I don't really know why GW/BL are so hesitant to actually give a named female Stormcast character,

Because they're not the kind of retards who would put a female head on a deliberately exaggerated male body.

>>51797299
They should have just had the hit and wound rolls be a single roll. They only change when buffed/debuffed.

Especially when you see shit like choosing between a weapon that hits on 3+ and wounds on 4+ and a weapon that hits on 4+ and wounds on 3+. They're statistically identical.

>>51797324
Lady Tempest Muscle Bound! Known for her extremely thick legs and chest.

>>51797377
>They're statistically identical.

But there are various buffs and debuffs that will affect how they play differently.

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>>51796962
>have a 4+

lets see here:

great armor; check.
insane movement trickery; check.
excellent damage output; check.
ranged and melee threat; check.
great synergy with heroes and abilities; check.
high wounds per model; check.
points cost aggressive; check.

I rate these as stupid overpowered, borderline broken.

if only the other armies could claim to have such superb options.

>>51796962
>they wear the lighter vanguard armor and have a 4+
You know, the same save Retributors have.

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>>51797423
Ey boss, this i'nt fair is it? Stoopid Stormgitz

>>51793293
>>51793716
>>51794477
Good work. Mount reminds me of this though.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nQPiRQP_aVc

>>51797450
its not even a close comparison.

gore gruntas cant match the movement trickery, lower damage output, have no ranged threat, less effective synergies, worse points cost.

Palladors are hands down winners.

all dissembling and false equivalencies on the subject are shams betraying lack of knowledge or betray worse motives.

>>51797491
Yeah when I removed the big horns from the front and decided to do big creepy tentacles, i knew I had boost up the model's weird factor. Which I like.

>>51797420
Which can buff or debuff that single roll.

>>51797423
Eh

Dracothians are stupid overpowered, palladors have some decent ranged and decent melee but are mostly about speed while costing nearly the same.

Non rerollable 4+ doesn't go nearly as far as you would imagine.

>>51797534

That's more about gore gruntas being unjustly shit than anything.

Extremis has had the "overpowered golden cavalry" market clinched for a while

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>>51797450
>Space marines outclass orkz

I guess things never really change

So the days of people claiming that one of the things that balanced SC and made them fair was that they were a relatively slow moving army....

That's now no longer a thing so...

...SC is the best with no close second?

>Power creep already taking over the game

AoS being AoS's when?

Will they just blow up the world a second time?

>>51797610

SC have been one of the fastest armies (via teleporting or by extremis) since launch

>>51797623

Palladors are pretty okay but I have no idea what the panic is about.

>>51797623
>Will they just blow up the world a second time?

I kinda hoped that GW could resist shooting its power creep load for at least a decade or so. maybe edge out a few little drops every couple years but this... this is a blast of power creep to the face so blatant it would make a porn star ashamed.

So if I had to choose one of the two new heavy crossbow options for Stormcasts, which do you think are better? Snipers? Or bullet hose?

>celestial hunting pack has a very cool ability and i want to try it
>minimum to play the list is 1880 + battleline
>nobody in my area ever wants to play above 2000

Ffffffuuuuckkk

>>51797701
>Snipers? Or bullet hose?
both are excellent and blow away all the options every other army can bring to the table. Why not take two of both?

Throw in some space marines riding mini dragons for frontal assault and some space marines riding mini griffon-horses for outflanking and you will no doubt destroy every other option anyone can hope to field.

>>51797671
So, rate my idea: I just got the top part of a Mortis Engine and a Bastillidon with out a top part. My plan is pretty simple: Use a bit of green stuff to turn it into a makeshift Dinosaur-Mortis Engine. Yay or nay?

>>51797763

I am genuinely curious what army you have to play to feel threatened by stormcast getting their yearly release.

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>>51797777

>FEAST OF THE GOD-KING
>GREAT DUTY DESERVES GREAT REWARD, AND SO WHEN THE DRAKESWORN TEMPLARS OF THE THUNDERWING CHAMBER RETURNED TRIUMPHANT FROM THE BATTLE OF THE MECH-KRAKEN, THEY WERE SUMMONED TO A GREAT FEAST BY SIGMAR HIMSELF. FOR A DAY AND A NIGHT THEY MADE MERRY, DRAINING THE UNQUENCHABLE CASK DRY THREE TIMES

Holy shit THIS right here is what the Stormcasts needed.

It's not much but it's incredibly significant:

They EAT
They DRINK BOOZE
They can HAVE FUN
They actually have something tangible to lose from getting reforged too many times. It's not much but it's SOMETHING

>>51797774
are you going to undead up the bastillidon or aztec up the mortis engine? 'cus i'll tell you a zombie dinosaur carrying a ghost machine on its back sounds like a great idea

>>51797701

Hurricane crossbows are genuinely meh, the sniper ones give stormcast some legitimate cannon equivalent without a stardrake or celestant prime.

>>51797423

>great armor

unmodified 4+ isn't great

>insane movement trickery

Check

>excellent damage output

They're pretty mediocre at ranged even with javelins, the gryph charger has some nice rend but the rider barely helps. They only threaten things that are vulnerable to light cavalry, which is how it should be.

>great synergy with heroes and abilities

Aquilors command ability is a bit overkill on them but could be great for nabbing objectives.

>high wounds per model

If they're going to be 73 points each they had better.

>points cost aggressive

They're okay for the cost but I'm not sure I would take more than 1 minimum unit, maybe 2.

>I rate these as stupid overpowered, borderline broken.

I wouldn't come to that conclusion at all.

Stormcast really hurt for low model count as that makes scoring on GHB missions really fucking hard.

Skewing towards the big cavalry (or god forbid the drakes) really fucks over your own ability to win games unless you really know how to control the board.

>>51797433

who have worse armor than liberators with shields.

>>51797763

Imo, Leadbelchers will rip the shit out of anything they want to delete. Could just be that my two Ogor playing buddies always get godly rolls from those things.

>>51797819

I play ironjawz too and I wish goregruntas didnt suck, you aren't alone.

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>>51797763

Sounds like a fun list desu

Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals

Leaders
Lord Aquilor (200)
- General
- Trait: Staunch Defender - Stormcast Eternals
- Artefact: Mirrorshield
- Gryph-Charger Trait: Wind Runner
Lord Castellant (100)
- Mystic Light: Fury Brand

Battleline
5 x Vanguard-Hunters (140)
- Gryph-Charger Trait: None
- Stormcast Eternals Battleline (Lord Aquilor General)
5 x Vanguard-Hunters (140)
- Gryph-Charger Trait: None
- Stormcast Eternals Battleline (Lord Aquilor General)
5 x Vanguard-Hunters (140)
- Gryph-Charger Trait: None
- Stormcast Eternals Battleline (Lord Aquilor General)

Units
3 x Vanguard-Palladors (220)
3 x Vanguard-Palladors (220)
3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Hurricane Crossbows (160)
3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (180)
3 x Aetherwings (60)
3 x Aetherwings (60)
2 x Fulminators (240)
1 x Gryph-Hound (40)

Battalions
Vanguard Angelos Conclave (100)

Total: 2000/2000

>>51797885
Spookify the Bastillidon up. Basically, a giant undead monster bound to the will of the Vampire and Necromancer riding atop. I might even throw on a extra skink, but painted all ghosty.

My only problem is that it technically conflicts with the idea that all of the Lizard men being star spirits, meaning there's nothing really there I can raise.

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Which is the cheaper and more fun army to collect and play, Ironjews or Bestclaw mixed with Gutbusters and/or Moonclan?

>>51798056

>cheaper

I think beast claws win but ironjawz with loadsa brutes are close

>more fun

ironjawz. Beastclaws will get old really quick, Ironjawz seem to have this innate luck to make games entertaining if not victorious.

Just had a look at Vanguard Raptors, and christ they're insane. 2+/3+/-2/2? madness

>>51798030
well the mortis engine is basically a big nexus of necromantic energy right, so if anything could corrupt a star spirit it would be that. I could see a powerful necromancer binding the astral form of a wounded bastillidon to his diabolical will and it taking on a more fitting form for its new master.

>>51798207

moderately better jezzails for a 40 point price bump.

Lets compare it to some other artillery

For 180 points you get 3 longstrike crossbows.

Against a 4+ target you'll get 2.5 hits (50% of getting at least one head shot for 2 mortal wounds), 1.667 wounds, and 2.77 unsaved wounds.

Empire cannon, 180 points.

2 shots, 1 hits, .833 wounds, 2.08 unsaved wounds although this can spike with your D6 rolls.

Skaven Jezzails 140 points

3 shots, 1.5 hits (50% chance for at least) 2 mortal wounds, 1 wound, .833 failed armor saves, 1.667 wounds.

Reaper Bolt thrower

12 shots, 6 hits, 5 wounds (one hit becomes 2 damage on average with 6 hits), 3.33 failed saves, 3.33 wounds.

Nearly the same with the high elf bolt thrower

Field Trebuchet

2 shots, auto hits against units of 6 or more, 1.33 wounds, 1.11 failed saves, 3.33 unsaved wounds on average.


So the longstrike is quite good but doesn't knock any of the old artillery kings off the hill.

>>51798360
Ah. Thanks for the Mathhammer. Interesting indeed.

>>51798449

Yeah they're great in a vacuum but for them to be viable in stormcast, they had to be. Stormcast lack good ranged buffs in faction (mother fuckin knight azyros) and while raptors have some pretty neato battalions that help them, they're mostly going to be playing on their own unlike jezzails.

Funnily enough the usual asshole combo of Hurricanum + anything does nothing for longstrikes as they already hit on a 2+.

>>51798563
>Stormcast lack good ranged buffs in faction
God forbid a faction has a fucking downfall.

>>51798582

Lack of ability to outnumber on objectives is probably the (more important) other downfall unless you really, really like liberators.

>>51797777
>stormcast getting their tri-yearly release.

ftfy

I hear the orcs are getting new sculpts. True, false?

>>51798638
I cannot confirm that new Orruk™ sculpts are coming, or that you've heard of them.

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Rolled 1 (1d3)

1-New Dwarves next
2-New Freeguild next
3-WILDCARD new night goblins and squigs

>>51798688
dubs confirm it
screencapping this

>>51798688
No freeguild :(

>>51798601

They seem to get one major release per year with a couple random clampacks thrown in, the veritant and questor mostly.

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>decide to get into Warhammer
>my area has a big 40k and AoS community so I'm going to buy some Daemons to play both games with
>see the store owner's Treelord Ancient on display
>come home with Start Collecting! Sylvaneth box

Damn lads, how can a forest monster be so sexy? So how are these guys? Is the faction any good?

>>51795498
these mounts are such a good step forward than those terrible drake models

>>51798941
>how can a forest monster be so sexy?
uh... alariel?

>>51798941
I've seen people use them as daemon proxies in 40k without any issue. They're cool.

>>51798976
No, the Treelord silly. It's a really cool model.

>>51798967
amazing what some actual poses do for it, as a reptile fan I am pissed that the Drakoth's are so lame

>>51798941
They're really good. They can teleport across the map with woods scenery, one of the best shooting units (kurnoth hunters), and their heroes are powerhouses maybe only second to the beastclaws. Plus, they actually look decent with minimal paint.

Good time to start collecting them.

>>51797847
This has been mentioned before, but I do like this blurb, it fits Sigmar's reputation as a reformed barbarian god.

Jumping into AOS from 40k. Do the Ironjawz play like Orks, where you just spam the board with models, or no?

>>51799121

Ironjawz are like black orcs except you can take nobs as troops, so they tend to be more elite than normal orcs and, in fact can play with quite few models on the table.

Normal greenskins play like typical 40k orcs.

>>51799131
Gotcha. I'm getting that battleforce from December, anything single purchase (not a bundle) I should consider adding?

>>51799121
Ironjaws is like if you could take an army entirely of meganobz and warbosses in mega armor.

Hordes of orks is greenskins and bonesplitters

Whats the cheapest AoS force to buy from the GW store? (Out of the new armies)

>>51799146

More brutes (nobs) are always nice and they look awesome

>>51799311
Are 'ardboyz worth it if I can only afford 15 or 30?

>>51799152
>army entirely of meganobz and warbosses in mega armor.

Are they actually this good or are you havin' a laff?

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did this guy ever get rules?

I want my mercenary band with ogres

>>51799340
They're pretty good. They have their weaknesses but aren't a shit tier army. I just described what it's like aesthetically more than anything. An army of a few elite heavy armored brutal Orks.

>>51797030
Im honestly glad they salted the field and shitcanned everything. Looking back Warhammer Fantasy was a cancerous sore on the hobby much like 40k is now. All the salty old miserable fucks are gone and in their place I'm seeing new people come in to the hobby who have never played a tabletop game before and the joy and enthusiasm I see in them reminds me of why I started and continue to enjoy the hobby.

>>51799248

Spire of Dawn (Skaven/Aelves) or Starter Set (Stormcast/Bloodbound).

>>51799248
>>51799672

If you can find a Sylvaneth battleforce that's also a great deal.

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>>51793746

Bet he blames GW for stop selling Fantasy, thats what made his profit (in his own delusional mind).

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>>51798985
>he doesn't know about the THICC elf thighs

>>51797324
You know there's been a female stormcast in the novels already, don't you?

>>51794106
Are you talking of your experience or what?

That nitwit sponsored the ninth age and had gaming tables and only wargaming goods... so not much of a charity shop anon.

>>51795391
Readium, a Chrome app, is a decent one.

>>51797671

No it isn't, you guys are just over-reacting.

>>51799340

Anon. they are BETTER.

Imagine what he's described. Perfect, now strap EACH NOB a warp-spider's teleporter pack. Yes, imagine mega-armored nobs with warpsiders teleporters.

That's your average Ironjaw list.

Will the battleforce boxes be restocked or was it a one time deal?

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hes a big guy xD

How do you stay motivated to work on your army? I can't actually play the game for a variety of reasons and so when I look at my massive set of models for AoS I get discouraged and end up painting random other things instead.

>>51799333
If 30, go for it. They're good for adding some models to the table, and the fact that they have the same statwheel as Liberators and Chaos Warriors is nice, although not the best. They won't kill shit, but they're not supposed to. You have Brutes for that. They're for holding objectives, and that's about it.

>>51800226
Tell me about it. I have 36 more models to go.

>>51800226
If you're painting up other things that you actually can play with I don't see a problem. If you can't use either of them then just paint what you feel like painting.

>>51800226
Shame at seeing how much better everyone else in my group is at it. It doesn't actually help that much, but it gets me started every now and then.

>>51800200
I like it. Reminds me of the old Hero Quest models.

>>51792511
this is probably the list i will go to a tourny with.

its 1500 points and 3+battleline. 3 random scenarios from the GH.

frostlord on stonehorn 460
butcher 140
9 bulls 360
3 bulls 120
3 bulls 120
40 gnoblars 200
20 gnoblars 100


i could also redistribute the bulls and gnoblar units if there is a better configuration.

i could dump a butcher 6 bulls and 20 gnoblars for 6 ironguts, but i figured that would leave me to low of models on some scenario's.

any tips ?

>>51800239
my 1000 point list has 73 models. I love the theme of the army but the model count is a big ask and it wouldn't actually hold up well against any decent list.

>>51800254
I think a big part of why I am painting random stuff is because I don't actually get to play at all at the moment - no AoS, no 40k, no anything. Models are just models at that point and a single squad for some 40k faction I don't play or some reaper bones seem much more manageable as a project than 60 marauders.

Maybe if I break the marauders down into batches of 5 or 10 instead of trying to do them all at once

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>>51800200
There, I fixed it

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>>51800355
There, I fixed it

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>>51800409
there, I fixed it

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>>51800409
There, I fixed it

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>>51800426

okay guys, here it is

hypothetical speaking: how much reinforcement points you would reserve to field Nagash - and only for Nagash no potential other death wizards in mind?

500? 750? 1000?
I haven't an eye for that.

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Ok, guys, real talk here: who wins?

>>51800037
I think it was fairly obvious I was talking from my own experience.

>>51800188
we'll see at christmas...

>>51800516
It's a draw

>>51800516
>left slam:
>double runes
>tied axes, better resistance to disarm
>2 dead enemies at his feet

>right slam:
>reinforced pauldrons
>not tied axes, to throw better
>angrier eyes

I..I don't know

Ogors or Leadbelchers for Ogors battleline?
Leadbelchers are more pricey, and force gutbusters only list, but have range weapon and rend. Ogors are cheaper, have banners, but no rend on weapons.

Also, what's optimal unit size for them? 3, 6 or 9?

>>51800793
I prefer a mix, about two units of bulls for each unit of leadbelchers. The increased cost of leadbelchers as well as the lack of support stuff and the lower attack count make up for the bonus Rend and the added missile weapons.
Both three and six ogres are fine. More tend to be impractical without 2" weapons.

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How would you rate this list?

>>51800941
i am going with 9 ogres and ironfists + butcher +1 save. then the enemy inflicts 1 mortal wound every time they make a 5+ on their save. basically i dont mind some ogres not getting in because i just need more wounds.

>>51794322
THIS THIS THIS

>>51796419
This. Stormcast are already huge, they don't need to wear massive full body plate armour all the time. It looks especially silly on the Vanguard-Hunters, who are supposed to be sneaky, but wear shining clanking armour.

Missed opportunity to give them a bit more variety.

>>51797936
We all should form a support group

>>51797983

Do Vanguard-Raptors have models yet?

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>>51801390
Yes?

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>>51800516

>>51801410

Are they out? I couldn't see them on the website and my book doesn't arrive until tomorrow

I was fiddling with a small pestilens force of 1k How would this look?

Leaders
Verminlord Corruptor (240)
-General
-Crown of Conquest

Plague Furnace (220)

Battleline
20 x Plague Monks (140)
- Woe
- Pestilens Battleline
20 x Plague Monks (140)
- Woe
- Pestilens Battleline

Units

War Machines
Plagueclaw (180)

Battalions
Congregation of Filth (60)

Total: 980/2000

>>51801503
their pre orders are most likely going up next week, so they'l lbe out the week after that I think.

>>51801583

go with the double blades instead of the woe staves and id say thats a good list.

>>51801598
Okay, will do!

Any one got a link for grand alliance death or the battalions in it? Haven't found it in the pastein.

>>51801592

Cool, thanks.

So next question... I wanted to do a grimy Chamber that I imagine had been in a protracted drawn out fight.

I imagine their armour tarnished, chipped, but does rusty make sense, can sigmarite rust?

>>51792511

can I have allegiance Iron Jawz but still have units in it like goblins for example, or do I then have to take allegiance destruction?

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when are nurgle going to get a codex like khorne?

>>51801697
It's way more durable than non-magical metal and once reforged it is reset to its base status, but overall Sigmarite can rust and tarnish. It just takes a lot longer.

>>51801731
>codex like Khorne
Hopefully never, because there is no singular Khorne battletome.
Now, a battletome like Disciples of Tzeentch on the other hand...

REMINDER THAT A BUNCH OF STORMCAST EQUIPMENTS ARE POWERED BY RELICS

SO IT'S A-OK TO COVER YOUR DUDES WITH SKULLS AND THIGHBONES

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>>51801731

Patience lad, they just frigging did Tzeentch

>>51801772
>SO IT'S A-OK TO COVER YOUR DUDES WITH SKULLS AND THIGHBONES
Wrong, relics are contained in their not power-backpacks, it's not ok to cover your dudes in what should be used as fuel for reactors.

It's like saying it's ok to cover your car in gasoline because it runs on it.

>>51801864
this is magic, you dumbass

you can infuse stuff with warp power and use it accordingly, your comparison is wrong

now apologize

>>51801694
There is non. Some idiots will try to troll you that GA are for free on app but it's not true. You have to pay for them

>>51801894
The only one who should be covered in skulls and thigh bones is the Lord-Relictor. The other Stormcast keep the relics in their backpacks.

>>51802100
unless they don't

the little blurb about armor decorations that mentions putting relics on your greaves doesn't specifically say that only relictors do it.

>>51800426
>Hand over the Treasures of Chaos, Archaon. You're not going to be the Everchosen.

>>51802114
and yet you see only relictors running around with relics not stored in powerpacks

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People are complaining about how SCE are superior right now with their new releases and battletome. Are they generally buffed or maybe just in some game formats like high point games or free games?

>>51798360
>Reaper Bolt thrower
target shit crew with a stiff breeze and put even one wound on the 5+ armor crew to make worthless.

longstrike is high armor multi wound models. much better to anyone not a trying really hard to make excuses for SC.

>>51801164
this picture >>51795900

>>51802740
>People are complaining about how SCE are superior right now

they already were top of the heap with wins or near wins in all the major tournaments. this introduction of broken shit for them >>51797423 just pushes it further over the top.

*brace for an avalanche of bullshit excuses that no one believes*

>>51802740
don't you think this picture is better?>>51796114

>>51802884
Wah wah wah
Fuck off, aelevesfag :^)

Fantasy is dead, and you killed it

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>>51802935

nice dodge and pivot to bait attack. noticed you dodged all the relevant points.

presumably because you know I'm right

So I've been reading/watching some AoS battle reports and I'd like to get started. I'm thinking either Tzeentch Arcanites or Sylvaneth - both look like they'd be fun to paint.

Obviously Sylvaneth operate on the basis of their Wild Woods - about how many would I need to bring in an average 2000 point games? I ask because that's a deciding factor for me - that kit is a PITA to put together.

>>51802884
They also nerfed their most used battalions and hero. and adjusted point costs up in several places

>>51803053
Tzeentch!!!!!!

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>>51802935
so im new here but I saw a great game last night at the GW store between elves and chaos where elves won. I took a picture of each army at end of set up.

chaos pic next

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>>51803117

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>>51803127

>>51803117
the chick playing the elves also had morathi on a balewind vortex that isn't in the picture.

>>51800010
Where?

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>>51793580
pillar men themed for the ultimate muscle wizard army that try to outmuscle khornate
lot of acolytes, and the obligatory roidrage traumaturge

>>51793795
I actually had an idea for a conversion for something similar. I got a hold of an Alarielle on sale just because I wanted the beetle. The idea was to use Tzaangor bits and some feathered wings, if I could find them, to turn Alarielle into a Tzeentch Daemon Prince(ss), or big Tzaangor Shaman or something. Alarielle could be a good starting point for the body if you can find her bits cheap.

>>51792511

Ok guys need some major help here

Im interested in getting warhammer quest to play with my friends, however none of them are into warhammer besides me.

Do you think warhammer quest will be worth the 180$ Cad? or should i stick to another board game like zombicide or something

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>>51798030
hum, i remenber some lore about how the slann make dinos a thing again in azyr, so the vampire may have just hijack that
OR you could fluff it has the slann trying to recreate good old lustria, with dinopond and all
it would fit precedent fluff well
OR you could fluff it has some human aztec barabrians that escaped the age of chaos and worship lizardmen, and ride dinos to battle, until they fell to aztec vampire
pic not unrelated

>>51803511
Ask them If they would like to play it. If they would like to try painting or other aspect of hobby then you should allow and help them.

>>51798990
isn't there any ways to convert the shit out of them to remove their lameness ?

>>51803545

they are interested in playing board games with me and im planning on picking up a few after my vacation but they arnt into the modelling aspect just the gaming aspect.

Thats why im wondering if 180 bux is worth it, i mean the models are great and all but Im not familiar with the mechanics of warhammer quest so im not sure if its going to be worth it in the long run.

>>51803053
It depends on how you want to play. You could go all out and get twelve, but most people have two or three at that level.

>>51803580
The game is good. I mean, even the WHFBfags at my LGS said it's the best what AoS gave us. If you are playing AoS and will use minis from Quest in your army then you should pick it IMO

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>>51797423
Just wait until the slaanesh release guys. We'll get some good, fast, rending models... right guys?

>>51796262
so never

I'm tempted to build a little force of Stormcasts, should I go Celestial Vindicators or Knights Excelsior ?

>>51793293
>>51794477
dude, you've gotta give me ideas for a Nurgle hero like those ones! Please mate!

>>51803517
>hum, i remenber some lore about how the slann make dinos a thing again in azyr,
source of the lore?

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Now THIS starts looking like world building!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/19/closer-look-the-city/

>>51804289
OK. What bits do you have? That's really the start of all my conversions, I sift through my bits bins and start playing Lego with them

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My very first mini/gf

>>51804354
You're a lucky man, anon. I wish you both well

>>51804375
Already had to wipe cum off of her twice OwO

>>51804379
thin you coats better then

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>>51804354
>>51804375
>>51804379
>>51804409
Y'all need sigmar

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One down, 49 to go. Whats everyone else working on

>>51804650
that looks amazing. Curious how long that one model took?

>>51804293
dunno, it was talked about here
probably seraphon battletome

>>51804677
Thanks, probably about 6 hours in total, I spread it out over a few sessions
lemme see wot you got, seeing other peoples work motivates me

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>>51804650
Pretty nice dude. Finished these guys the other day and have a primed bloodsecrator for tonight.

I mean REEEEEEE KILL THE WITCH

>>51792511

What're the chances of GW putting out a WHFRP 4e set in AoS?

They just released info on Hammerhal and I think it has a lot of potential as a setting

>>51804780
After the GW/ FFG split, basically no chance.

>>51804748
these are looking good, what are the bases they're standing on? Did you make those?

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>>51804705

I work a lot so it takes a long time to get units done. These first 10 of the 30 are getting closer.

>>51804845
Holy shit that gold is bright.

>>51804850
>Holy shit that gold is bright.

itll be dulled down by a wash of agrax earthshade before I bring the edges back out with some more retributor armor gold.

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>>51804815
Yeah, I made a cobblestone base stamp from milliput and a 40mm base because I'm a cheapskate and didn't want to pay 12 quid for a rolling pin.

>>51804330
a little bit of everything. Plaguebearers, Blightkings, Maggoth lords, some undead horses, Ork nob bits, space marines, chaos space marines, etc. I do have an old Beast of Nurgle in metal, that I may do something with.

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>>51804650
Got this on Friday. Finally going to make my Vampires 'n Skellies army.

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>>51804794
>>51804780
I hope GW is working on first edition of AoS RPG books. I just can't wait to grab a new and shiny player's handbook and brew a neat ironjawz weirdnob as healer

>>51804780
I'd say a mid to high chance, if people push for it enough they might go for it

>>51804794
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/19/talisman-update/
They just announced Talisman is coming back, so who knows?

>>51804889
You got blightkings, so you should have extra front belly/chest bits. Ork nobs are about the right size for blightkings, so you can stick those bellies on an ork nob body and legs and that would be a good basis for nurgle characters or more blightkings. You would need to do some greenstuff to blend them together. Which beast of nurgle model do you have? Depending on which one it is, it may be mounted by a model for a counts-as chaos lord on daemonic mount or even a harbinger of decay

>>51804094

You should go with Only The Faithful

>>51804904
I was hesitating between skel/vampire or flesh eater court. I finally decided to go the flesh eating court way. Good for you, hope you will post your paint jobs! I'll do the same in a few weeks.

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>>51804311
I like it!

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>>51805154
>You got blightkings, so you should have extra front belly/chest bits. Ork nobs are about the right size for blightkings, so you can stick those bellies on an ork nob body and legs and that would be a good basis for nurgle characters or more blightkings. You would need to do some greenstuff to blend them together.
sounds like a good idea.

>Which beast of nurgle model do you have?
this one.

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>>51804311
Now this is some proper Gormenghast shit

>>51803453
I want to use that beetle for something but I cant quite figure out what, I play necrons, seraphon with plans for tzeentch and mechanicus/skitarri

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>>51805271

>>51805243
He's pretty twisted up, so i don't see mounting him an easy task. I'm not sure what I would do to that , honestly.

>>51803336
sounds cool, summons could be technically khornite but proxied with something for tzeentch flavor

>>51805243
I'd recommend the cheap stormcast kits you can pick up as a base for some nice conversions aswell. There's that one that comes with 5 SE and some Khorne guys thats a decent price. Not sure what you'd do with the khorne guys though unless you wanted to have a crack at making them nurgle

>>51801707
You have to take Destruction. If you take ironjawz all you are allowed to field are Ard boyz, Brutes, Gore Gruntas, Weirdnobs, Warchantas, Megabosses (foot or mawkrusha) and Gordrakk.

If you wish to include others, you must take general destruction

>>51804650
So as someone who has been waiting for the Tzeentch release for 10 years but hasnt started age of sigmar yet, what is a good resource for an overview of the army?

Love the model too! Excelent job.

>>51805333
That's something. I made a unit of chaos warriors with Mark of Nurgle out of starter set blood warriors. I just cut away all the khorne icons, replaced weapons and shields with blightking bits, and used a Dremel tool to cut up the armor to make it look rusting and rotting away. My next project is using starter set blood reavers to make into Marauders with Mark of Nurgle. The blightkings kit is so awesome with the plethora of extra usable bits it supplies

>>51805297
Neat! I wonder who drew those? Looks almost like Blanche

>>51805353
1d4chan
but you should check the pastebin, theres a pdf of the tzeentch battletome for you to look at. Generally a postive opinion of them, strong magic phase, alot of shooting and alot of battalions

>>51805353
Have you downloaded the free app yet, so you can read the rules for all the units?

>>51805392
No it doesn't

it looks like that dude who does mostly waterworks and did a bunch of concepts for the Empire, CSM and Dark Angels, who got recruited by GW about 15 years ago

you know the guy whose name we always forgot because he's just not as good as Goodwin and Blanche.

>>51805333
>>51805381
neat ideas! thanks anons.

>>51796250
tfw you have actually done that IRL and for a moment felt that was too vanilla an act to please Slaanesh

Minus the suicide part, of course.

>>51805629
you should have kept the suicide part in, you emo faggot

>>51804845
They look bretty gud so far. I personally would tone that gold down a bit but that's just me.

>>51805297
right-hand pic isn't euclidian

>>51805651
>implying we were cutting ourselves
>not cutting the person you're buttfucking with an electrified knife while another person plays with the TENS unit attached to their nipples

I don't even play Slaanesh.

So Stormcast are OP?

How Viable is Nurgle in AoS? I was thinking of doing Nurgle Rotbringers and Slaves to Darkness

>>51804311
Funny thing, there's some guy who's started a Hammerhal Roleplay a few hours prior to this image: https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/shadows-over-hammerhal-aos-roleplay.496217/

He apparently needs input but it doesn't look too bad.

anyone ever put their own blood into the paint for their khorne army

>>51805926
I hope you haven't.

>>51805926
>>51805945

Well no shit. Everyone knows you have to use someone else's blood for Khorne.

>>51805926
everyone does

>>51805855
They are one of the best. Nurgle daemons are probably the most newbie-friendly faction and the Rotbringers are pretty durable. Slaves to Darkness are like Swiss Army knife - thay have nice synergy with other chaos factions

>>51805989
Khorne does not care from where the blood flows.

>>51805926
Nope but sometimes I'm adding my gf's period when painting Slaanesh minis

>>51804845
the flesh could use a wash

New thread?

>>51806011
Nurgle daemons eh? They any good?

>>51804845

don't slop so much wash on the bases, less is more

>>51806906
You should ask in new thread. Someone should have a screen with a list build around GUO and tallyband. Nurgle daemons are idiot-proof - you can literally buy 2 SC! boxes, merge them together and run 1000pts vanguard army

>>51807045
Really? How good are plaguebearers?

>>51807112
I can't really tell you - I'm not running them. You can look at their rules by yourself - they are costly but they are definitely good, both units and heroes.

>>51807195
To be honest, I think I'd just run Slaves to Darkness and give them a mark. At the moment It's either Nurgle or Tzeentch