Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>51785536
Personally, most of my casters are going to have a staff.
It might not even be magic because the rules for those suck ass unless you have lots of downtime, but I'm going to have one.

>>51785536
We were on page 7, you dweeb.

New threads only on page 8+.

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Elves. They kind of got left in the dust, huh?

In a racial paradigm of kitsune, catfolk, blinklings, skinwalkers, aasimar, tieflings, ethumions, plain old humans, and bakeneko versions of all of the above, those knife-ears sure look vanilla.

How can we make elves great again in this rainbow of exotic races?

>>51785559
ctrl+z on space aliens lore, return them to being fey.

Make a big deal about how damn near any studied spellcaster has to know elven if they don't want to be shit at it; the long lived and magically gifted tend to spend their long lives being magically gifted, which makes most resources on the subject elven.

>>51785536
Athletic skills over a flight speed. I can't help it, it's just way more cool to climb and leap to the target than to float over to it.

Why has /pfg/ been on an anime streak lately?

>>51785717
Because millenials.

>>51785590
So... take something that makes them unique (literally not being from that world), and make them the same as almost every other race, in order to make them special?

Yeah... makes total sense.....

+Dex +Int Small race?

>>51785809
Tiefling halfling

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>>51785664

Essentially, it is a concern that over the stretch from CR 1 to CR 20, average monster Perception rises at a rate higher than 1 per CR.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E2-s8weiulPoBQjdI05LBzOUToyoZIdSsLKxHAvf8F8/edit#gid=3

A CR 1's average Perception modifier is +4.6, while a CR 20's average Perception modifier is +33.8, which means an average Perception increase of ~1.54 to Perception over the course of those 19 CR increases.

Having a primary or secondary score keyed to Stealth is a great help for this, since you will probably be raising that score with level advancement, items, and so on.

Magic items, of course, can shore this up, but then that is patching the issue with magic items.

>>51785559
Fuck elves. Aasimar are more sacred, more beautiful, more good, more honorable, and more adored and respected by all races. Get out-Tolkiened you Tolkien wastebin race.

>>51785822
You can do that? What do they trade for it?

>>51785792
Lashunta want to have a word with you.

And sure, they become "not an alien" like most races (not like anyone bothers with the implications of that anyway) but then adds back on "is a fey" like literally no other race is.
Gnomes are like the fey's shitty cousin no one likes to talk about and don't have the creature type, so they hardly count.

>>51785829
So 14 dex, +5 competence item, +2 masterwork tool, +4 small size, +3 class skill, and 20 ranks for a +36 Stealth check. VERY minimal optimization here. I'm fairly comfortable with those numbers.

>>51785850
They are small sized instead of medium. Nothing else changes. It relies on having a GM willing to roll with it though, since even though tiefling of non-human races exist, the shits may not accept it.

>>51785867
Sorry, mathed wrong. Not small. So only +32, which I think is acceptable for such a minor investment.

>>51785840
>make obnoxious "perfect in every way" race whose only ""flaw"" is unrelatability to the less perfect races
Why is this so common? I blame Tolkien and Star Trek.

>>51785867
Not him but going close to 50/50 at beating the *average* is kinda shit if you are specializing in a thing. If you have a skill fully invested, in-class with item support and a decent ability modifier, you should be succeeding more often than that at it.

>browse taldor characters
>elf courtesan assigned to the job for no reason
>japanese-named taldor ninja
>literally recycled from sky pirates
>furry throwing a hissy fit

Why is /pfg/ so bad at making characters?

>>51785990
Because all the good characters got into RotJR in one form or another.

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>>51785867

Minus whatever armor check penalty you have (lessened by 3 due to an upcoming racial trait), and as I have pointed out:
>Magic items, of course, can shore this up, but then that is patching the issue with magic items.

A more practical comparison point would be a 10th-level, Strength/Wisdom-based manul in a masterwork breastplate.

Dreamscarred Press balances material with 20 point buy in mind ( https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/48686569/#48688821 ), so we will have to assume Dexterity 12 for our manul here. On the other hand, by 10th-level, dual-score-dependent characters can usually count on a +4 enhancement bonus to a primary and a secondary ability score. That manul probably has Wisdom 16+2+4 = 22.

Without Wisdom in the Flesh:
1 Dexterity modifier + 10 ranks + 3 class skill + 4 Small size + 2 shinobi shozoku = +20

With Wisdom in the Flesh:
6 Wisdom modifier + 10 ranks + 3 class skill + 4 Small size + 2 shinobi shozoku = +25

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E2-s8weiulPoBQjdI05LBzOUToyoZIdSsLKxHAvf8F8/edit#gid=3
Average CR 10 monster Perception: +16.5

Both of them have reliable chances against a CR 10, but the Wisdom in the Flesh-using manul has *significantly* more reliable chances thanks to having spent a single trait for a 5 higher modifier. That is extremely helpful to have on a skill that you really do not want to fail, such as Stealth.

Basically, it is a concern of "Wisdom in the Flesh lets the manul scale that much better for such a small price."

>>51786003
>RotJR
>Good characters
You are delusional or have very low standards.

>>51785975
I was using a bare minimum investment, not specialization. With a +10 competence item and dex buffed with a +6 item, then you get up to a more reasonable +40.

Also distance penalties on perception checks, potential size, luck, and trait bonuses.

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Desna is a space alien?

>>51786020
Wisdom in the Flesh is indeed an optimal choice for Wisdom primary characters, such as Manul. An optimal choice being a strong choice is not something we have an objection to - Brutal Slayer Stalkers, for example, also benefit to a massive degree from the trait.
It might be worth looking at it from the lens of "is it worth spending a trait for +2 initiative and +2 damage a maximum of 5*wisdom modifier% percentage points more of the time", rather than assuming that their Ambush racial ability is always worth optimizing to this extent.

>>51786068
No, she is a redeemed eldritch abomination.
Hence all her oldest servants aren't even humanoid and look like Mothra on LSD.

>>51785990
Oh, and two people who didn't bother to read the game chargen rules (furry and ninja).

>>51786068
>>51786068

One of the gods was a dude with a few levels in the NPC Warrior class that took the Test of the Starstone on a drunken bet.

So, the idea that the other Gods are weird isn't all that weird.

Tell me about your churches of Shelyn?

>>51786108
Some are basically art museums, some are part-church part-theatre and others are THE CHURCH you go to to get married.

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>>51786108
>Shelyn
Meant Calistria

>>51786108
Talking of temples, where is the book dedicated to them in the trobe?

Do halflings make good swashbucklers? As far as swashbucklers go, I mean. I know.

>>51786133
>Implying temples of Calistria are anything less than holy brothels, guarded by scorpion-whip toting clerics and paladins.

>>51786162
I prefer Arshea temples.

>>51786194
>Worshiping a glorified angel, when there are already two or three gods that fill the same role.

Shit taste.

>>51785559
Go the Fearun route and have different subraces with different looks/cultures/statistics.
Sun Elves, Moon Elves, Wood Elves, Sea Elves, Avarials, ect.

>>51786194

Arshea isn't big enough for churches, she needs to squeeze in prayers where she can in the field.

>>51786221
It's already stupid that Half Elves and Aquatic Elves exist, don't need to get even shittier with it.

Is it just me or is this the best melee survival feat of all time?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/roll-with-it-combat-goblin/

>>51786261

It's pretty nice, but you're either a human burning your extra feat to count as a goblin or actually playing a goblin.

So any of you know what the 'Pathfinder Society Core Campaign Character System' is? I can't find it explicitly defined what is contained within it.

>>51786261
Surviving doesn't mean much if you can't actually do anything.

>>51786305

Sounds like Pathfinder Society ran on Core only.

>>51786313
That sounds awful why would anyone do that?

>>51786211
Yeah, because Arshea is NG while Calistria is a CN bitch.

>>51786307
Staggered isn't really that debilitating

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Why would you take Arcane Surge when you can take Wild Arcana?

>>51786314
because they have no other option

Is a tiefling with pass for human able to pick between human and tiefling favored class boni?

What about a non human tiefling (let's say half elven), could he pick from, human, elven and half elven?

>>51786493
No.

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hi /tg/, I just played my first game of pathfinder last week with some colleagues. I started out just making a boring cleric, but now I want to make a prank master kitsune bard.

Should I pick realistic likeness or disguise self (from magical tail)? which is better?

>>51786502
No to both questions?

>and count as humanoid (human) as well as outsider (native) for all purposes

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>>51786510
Huli jing youkai kitsune with Realistic Likeness!

Way better than Magical Tail, Magical Tail sucks.

>>51786537
are the later ranks of it not worth the investment? charm person and invisibility look fun

>>51786565
It's a lot of investment, even if you're getting free feats or otherwise not having to spend your actual character feats for features.

How can one create an alien character in DnD?

>>51786531
The humanoid (Human) does not allow you to select human favored class bonuses, being human race allows you to select human favored class bonuses.

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>>51785536
Nice elf

by the way what do you call the gentle druidic loner type of elf rather than the "we live in a tree city and live for 10000 years because we only eat cabbage and smell our own farts"

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Tomorrow's Chelaxian Loyalty Day! I hope the parade has an actual devil in it, and not just guys in costumes...

>>51786611
Damn.

So it doesn't work for half elves either? Who are elves, half elves and humans?

>>51786632
No, half-elves has a specific ability:

>Elf Blood: Half-elves count as both elves and humans for any effect related to race

>>51786582
Alright, thanks, I'll skip it then.

>>51786657
How is that different to being human for all purposes?

>>51786630
Are parades with actual outsiders a thing, even in such blatantly-infernal nations as Cheliax?

>>51786670
Yeah. Unless you want to hyper focus on becoming a nine-tailed Kitsune (and take something like Nine-Tailed Scion or Wracking Mysticism oracle) it's better not to bother with it at all.

>>51786632
Half-Elves and Half-Orcs have explicit allowances from an FAQ.

>Can a half-elf or half-orc select human racial favored class options?

>Yes. Half-elves and half-orcs may select racial favored class options, archetypes, traits, and so on, as if they were a full member of both races (a half-elf can select elf and human rules elements, a half-orc can select human and orc rules elements).

>>51786704
So they explicitly stated that they can do it, but have not explicitly stated that Tieflings can't. Could be an oversight.

>>51786704
I assume the same applies to racial traits? So once again the half elf could take human, half elf and elf.

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>rng kicked me out of dragon
>pirates was a fake game
>know for a fact I won't make it into WotRaunchy
>Dev team is going to nuke Sultanas
>Kon kon just bailed on fluffy
I'm at a loss here guys

>>51786068
Yep. She's got sodomy techniques from all across time and space.

>>51786726
Racial Traits yes, Alternate Racial Traits no

>>51786716
It could be an oversight, but it is not allowed by RAW, RAI you would need to ask Paizo and see what they say.
>>51786726
I think so, and a tiefling with pass for human could pick human racial traits as well, just not FCB.

>>51786752
Thanks.
>>51786760
Alright then. Seems a bit strange to me, since I doubt this would make that big an impact and I'm pretty much always in favor of choice when it comes down to it.

>>51786227
I'd like to squeeze something into her in a field

>>51786747
try joining a game that isn't shit?

>>51786785
Have there even been any new postings in these threads?

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Any one from Dragon game on? How was yesterday's session?

>>51786510
You should make a cute cleric prankster instead

>>51786781
If you want to allow it I see no issues with it balance wise. Just is not RAW so if you want to run a character with it, it is really up to your gm.

>>51786800
>a game that isn't shit
>in a /pfg/ thread

senpai I think you are missing my point

>>51786591
Play an elf

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>>51786807
>cleric
>prankster

>>51786811
Alright, thanks.

>>51786820
Is the roll20 lfg supposed to be better in your opinion?
Is gamefinder here on tg?
Where do you think better games are?

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Quick PFG what is the best preform skill?

>>51786747
>rng kicked me out of dragon
Really? Which one were you?

Also, I noticed that Fluffy 2 is indeed dead. On one hand I feel better that I did not make a character for it an on the other it feels bad because another dead game. At least this time the GM just said it instead of disappearing without a trace.

>>51786876
Go directly to recruitment, myth-weavers, gitpg, roll20, even the paizo site have more consistent offerings than here.

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>>51786886

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>>51786881
Perform (Fellatio)

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>>51786920
>mfw 4chan fucking ate my spoiler tag

>>51786920
that's a pretty awful character design

>>51786834
Just pick a deity that believes in Fun

>>51786920
I don't think I'd be allowed to play my magical realm so openly like that

>>51787056
Just pick a DM that believes in Fun.

>>51787089
F is for fucking U and a Nother?

>>51786747

Join Taldor Ascendant? Explain which app is yours in Wrath of the Raunchy?

>>51786023

Oh come now, friend. There's only like, three applications that got in that really should not have gotten in.

>>51786912
Why did you get kicked out of Dragon?

>>51786211

Calistria is the goddess of bitter sluts and stereotypical alimony sharks, Arshea believes fun things are fun, and sex is one of the funnest things out there. Hell, Arshea is also *totally* into the whole, "I want you sleeping with someone attractive or sexually desirable" thing, which Calistria charges a premium for and Shelyn believes is just plain r-u-d-e!

I guess what I'm trying to get at here is Arshea's the ultimate ERP deity, or at least the deity with the most compatible portfolio for a man or woman that wants to be sexually desirable.

>>51787145
Dragon DM picked the party by rolling dice, Aisha was in the runner ups

>>51786834

Sun Wukong and Daikitsu believe in pranks.

Daikitsu is also Not!Inari, the Goddess of Foxes and Kitsune.

>>51787164
Shelyn is Cute! CUTE!
Heretics need to say nothing unless they can say something nice.

>tfw you can summarize your character's backstory entirely with a song dedicated to each paragraph

>>51786364
Staggered is one of the worst conditions a martial can face, and is still pretty crippling for casters as well. You can only perform a move OR a standard action. In a system where action economy is the strongest currency, anything that reduces it is a crippling condition.

>>51786704
Actually, according to RAW tieflings can do such
>Such a tiefling doesn’t need to succeed at a Disguise check to appear to be human and count as humanoid (human) as well as outsider (native) for all purposes (such as humanoid-affecting spells like charm person or enlarge person)
>for all purposes
it's a pretty blanket statement, but it means they count as both types like a half-elf or a half-orc

>>51787190
Daikitsu is surprisingly cute

>>51787235
>it's a pretty blanket statement, but it means they count as both types like a half-elf or a half-orc
If this were true there would be no need for the explicit FAQ allowances.

>>51787262
It has to be explained time and time again that FAQs are not the same as rules, but rather interpretations of the rules. That they are explicitly called out in the FAQ does not preclude tieflings from the same treatment. Also worth noting is that the FAQs contradict the rules outright in some situations.

Basically what I'm saying is the FAQ is borderline worthless and isn't even worth looking at.

>>51787227
I like to do this if I can. Songs like:

>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5BUnnUJzzYQ

>>51787235
You can make a half charge attack as a standard action, just as good as a move-attack when you basically can't be hit in return anyway. Spellcasting is a standard action with some exceptions. The only one who'd wind up limited by it is an archer or a summoner, characters who would use a full-round effectively while distant from the enemy if they weren't staggered.

>>51787227
>tfw you write your character's backstory while listening to one song on infinite repeat until you finish.

Guess who got written to this song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9sWb8q2yuQ

>>51787165
That doesn't sound like getting kicked out, anon.

>>51787294
A single attack is worthless once iteratives come into play, so yes it is a crippling condition for martials especially. For casters it means they have to either cast OR move, while that's workable it's a shitty place to be in. And yes, archers are fucked by it completely.

Staggered is a nasty condition to have by any stretch of the imagination, given its ability to shut down martials and firmly plant casters into place.

>>51787327
You don't have iteratives as a melee when distant from the enemy.

>>51787283
Using that interpretation then it would be even more not allowed as your FCB is linked to race not subtype, nowhere does it indicate it is linked to subtype at all.

>>51786834
Cleric of a trickster god. Not sure which in PF, but Loki, Hermes, Anansi. Those kind of guys.

>>51787349
Half elves have the humanoid (human) and humanoid (elf) subtype as well, they just worded it slightly differently, but they mean the same thing. Half-elves count as elves and humans for all purposes, the same as tieflings with Pass for Human count as Humans and Tieflings for all purposes.

There is no ambiguity here beyond what you invent.

Human is literally just shorthand for Humanoid (Human)

>>51787373
>humans and tieflings
rather, humans and outsider (native)

Going by the logic of FCB, then half-elves do not qualify regardless of what the FAQ says because their wording does not actually call out such. The FAQ is not a ruling, plain and simple.

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>til my thing goodberries are senzu beans

>>51787433
>My thing
Ducking autocorrect, it's mythic, not my thing.

>>51787433
I'll good YOUR berries.

No seriously, what the fuckity are you fucking on about?

>>51787443
>Ducking
Jesus Christ.

>>51787455
Do you even Druid?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/g/goodberry/

>>51787471
>Doesn't have the mythic text
GOODBERRY
Each berry provides a full day’s nourishment and counts as 1 hour of complete rest for the purpose of removing exhaustion, fatigue, or nonlethal damage.
Augmented (2nd): You can cast the spell to affect only one berry, imbuing into that berry any harmless druid spell you have prepared. The spell remains stored in the berry for the duration of the goodberry spell or until the berry is consumed. A creature that eats the berry gains the benefits of that spell as if you had cast it upon her. The maximum level of the imbued spell is equal to half your tier, and you must expend one use of mythic power for each spell level of the imbued spell (in addition to the one use needed to cast mythic goodberry). Similar to imbue with spell ability, you can’t prepare a spell in that spell’s slot until the berry is consumed or the mythic goodberry spell ends.

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>>51787471
>Druid
Ew no.

>>51787488

Sounds like some Tom Bombadillo bullshit!

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Does your character have any family, /pfg/? What do they do?

Are there any class-independent ways to get Weapon Focus without spending a feat? Like a magic item?

>>51787320

That's how you write the best characters, when you get in a funk from a song and just ride it until you hit Submit.

>>51787519
They abandon children for a living mostly. The pay is shit but the satisfaction is worth it, they say.

>>51787519

My characters always have family! In the character I'm writing up, he was taken care of by a lovely, gentle forest woman with raven-black hair and lived around a Darkwood tree after his dad died from a giant weasel attack in a small town near the Border Wood of Taldor!

Holy smokes that sentence ran on!

>>51786716
I don't think it's an oversight, I think the idea is that a Tiefling might be half-outsider, half-anything else, else they wouldn't have made the Pass for Human option.

>>51787519
All my characters have family and it has never had anything to do with any game besides my characters mentioning familly once in a while.

>>51787563
That's strangely familiar. Sounds like either a mash-up of two characters in our group, or a possible hook-up sequel epilogue that ends badly.
Darkmoon Vale is a helluva drug.

>>51787580
Elaborate please.

>>51787522
Do you have the Seekers of Secrets Pathfinder Guide's book or PDF?

If so. Look on page 52. You'll find your answer there.

You're welcome.

>>51787602
Thanks anon. That fucking ioun stone is the gift that keeps on giving it seems.

>>51787594
Half-elves and half-orcs are by their own definition, always a mix between their titular races and humans.

I think a tiefling is closer to a template, and by default a tiefling might be a dwarf-devil, or an elf-rakshasa.

>>51787629
No worries. Plus, no self respecting adventurer should ever be without a compass. Hell, I keep a compass with me all the time IRL.

>>51787519
Yep. He's got an adoptive father (a traveling peddler and moonshine maestro,) a dryad stepmother, one uncle (farmer), three aunts (one of whom went to the big city and is a major black sheep, the other two farm and prep traditional remedies,) six cousins, and a fiancée.

>>51787636
I see. Is there a table for Rakshasa or Devil race traits and favored classes?
Just kidding, could be fun though.

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>>51787747

>>51787641
>Adventurer
>compass
No friend, that is a traveler, not an adventurer. Any right and proper adventurer picks a direction where they don't know what lies beyond, and they just keep going until they find something interesting or they die a horrible, horrible death.

>>51787759
Ah yes, the Variant Heritages.
I was meaning to ask for Traits and Feats specific to these races.

>>51786747
Here, get into the trashcan.
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/68369/pathfinder-adventure-path-shattered-star

SotJR (Song of the Jade Regent?) is tonight! Is tonight!

>>51787881
It got cancelled! It got cancelled!

>>51788014

You lie!

>>51787864
>Those thread names
>Those GM posts
Wow! I bet it would be great fun to play with a GM that speaks broken english!

>>51788085
Beggars can't be choosers.

>>51786747
>know for a fact I won't make it into WotRaunchy
Why not? It seems to be a fair go for everyone involved? All I'm seeing are 3~4/10 apps so even your half hearted character might get accepted.

Can you take adopted and then the gnome only First Memories, to get 4 SLA and giving up nothing in return, because you aren't a gnome?

>>51787779
Even a murderhobo needs to know where to go back and sell the loot.

>>51787227

Already got it planned out, senpai-a-lam.

>First paragraph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k6kg---YKg

>Second Paragraph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2lwFiIaMAE

>Third Paragraph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FOFZ9f_61Y

>Fourth Paragraph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hO_8uwK6l8

>Fifth Paragraph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CGMk_roNaE

Which are the best:

>Slashing Weapon
>Piercing Weapon
>Blunt Weapon
>Silver Weapon
>Cold Iron Weapon
>Magic Weapon
>Ranged Weapon

>>51788143
>write five paragraphs of backstory
>DM doesn't read any of it, notes the length, then picks someone else who posted a pic of a large chested anime girl and nothing else

>>51788179

Magic, because a sufficiently powerful magical weapon will bypass the Damage Reduction Silver and Cold Iron.

>>51788188

I meant in each category.

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>>51788185

Writing is it's own reward, and by golly have I hit the mother-load with this character concept.

>>51788179
Between B, P, and S, it depends on what you need to face.
S is good for zombies and a couple other enemies
P is a must for underwater combat (at least until you can reliably have Freedom of Movement), as well as quite a few higher level enemies, otherwise it's the weakest of the three
B is good to bring when you are facing skeletons and liches, although it doesn't work with keen and a couple other things.
Ideally, you want a weapon that can deal two different ones with choice, or more than one at the same time.

>>51788179
Depends on if you are two handing or one handing, and if you are crit fishing, or going for big hits. Do you need reach? What sources can you pull from?
It will generally fall down to these choices though
Katana, Estoc, Falcata, Greatsword, Bastard Sword, Rifle, Composite Longbow, Elven Curved Blade, or
Lucerne Hammer.

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>>51788198

>>51787881
Holy shit, shut the fuck up about it. If you're in the game, good. But you're being goddamn obnoxious about it, just post about what happened like a normal goddamn person.

If you're not in the game, then this is just fucking creepy.

>>51788354
>Somebody's bitter they didn't get picked

Melee magus without Combat Casting, yay or suicide?

>>51788387
Going to be pretty tough at low levels.

>>51788383
>>51788383
I'm not. If you got picked, then good for you. But spamming the thread with your shit isn't okay. You don't see everyone else playing in different games spamming "MY GAME TONIGHT MY GAME TONIGHT LALALALALA!" every fucking week like a child.

Just post greentexts about what happened like a sane person.

>>51788387
You're going to be doing a lot of running in and out to avoid getting slapped, senpai.

>>51788383
>>51788433
>two fags not in either game shitpost about a game
>the shitposting feeds into itself, creating an endless cycle

really thumps my thinker

>>51788387
Just take Flamboyant Arcana, Combat Reflexes and several instances of Extra Arcane Pool, nothing will go wrong!

>>51788456
>ever taking flamboyant arcana unless you can get pre-errata Arcane Deed later

>>51788456
Except for the Extra Arcane Pool, that actually sounds fun.
>start to cast a spell in someone's face
>they take their AoO, you spend a point and an AoO to parry
>beat their attack roll, hit them in the face for trying
>THEN finish casting the spell, whereupon you hit them in the face again

http://www.strawpoll.me/12365849

>>51788516
I'm confused.
Which one is the one without the penis?

>>51788516

Isn't a reverse trap princess just a tomboy?

Aren't tomboys with short hair the absolute best?

>>51788522
Reverse Trap Princess; she dresses like a guy and has slightly more angular features to help with the illusion, but she's a girl under her clothes! Of course, this question is flawed, because we, the reader, know that both are the opposite of what they look like. Realistically, you wouldn't be able to tell until you had already chosen; if you went for the girlier one, you'd have a dick attached.

>>51788529
Yes

>>51788522
Princess. Prince is a boy who looks like a girl.

>>51788529
Yes.

And yes.

>>51788546
>you'd have a dick attached.
But it'd be a feminine dick!

So, is Tiefling's darkness spell useful for anything, even for out of combat trick? If not, what's better: claws or maw?

Probably underworld guide is the best choice, but I want to know even for alternate options,

>>51788433
Anon, getting this triggered about shitposters is exactly what they want. Your reaction is delicious candy to them, just ignore and move on with the thread. Throwing a hissyfit because somebody mentioned a game you don't like isn't going to make the situation any better.

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>>51788592
Darkness is never not a useful spell.

>>51787519
Her parents own a book store in Absalom! They also disowned her for being super mega autistic!

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Which Adventure Paths are the best and why?

>>51787881
I thought it was tomorrow?

>>51787864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jv2gSY7QB4

Last night our party got dunked by an angel playing 'Devil went down to georgia'.

What's the best way to disappear in golarion?

Which are the most dangerous wizards?

>>51788690
The one with the GM that actually picks my character.

Cause then I won't be alone, gameless, and depressed.

aka none of them. ;_;

>>51788735
Most dangerous wizard in Golarion are Geb, The Runelord of Pride and the Whispering Tyrant.

>>51788690

Curse of the Crimson Throne is great. Reign of Winter's fun, but it gets pretty silly at points. Jade Regent is good, especially if you dump the caravan rules when they come up. Never played Iron Gods, but I hear a lot of good things about it, so unless you're rabidly opposed to the idea of sci-fi in your fantasy, it's probably worth checking out.

>>51787519

How many children can spawn a long-lived tiefling over 60+ years?

>>51788578

Feminine dicks don't real.

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>>51788743
But Anon your character is never pick up because is poorly written and product of a power fantasy which subtext is how powerless you are in real life.

>>51788778

Assuming a 9 month gestation and a year of downtime?

As many as you want.

>>51788690
For all the shit that I give it, I actually enjoyed running Skulls and Shackles. Despite a few bullshit encounters, the party enjoyed being 'in charge' and had a lot of fun doing piratey things.

If I would have to run it again though, I'd start at book 2, make Captain Harrigan more hated, and probably mince the encounters in a way where it's a bit more sandboxy.

>>51788387
It kind of works if you pick up Bladed Brush.

>>51788671

How autistic are we talking here?

r9k robot, Rainman, or Sheldon?

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>>51788757
I want to marry Xanderghul!
You also forgot Old-Mage Jatembe!

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>>51788801
Maybe next time you should learn English before trying to insult someone.

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>>51788850
But he is good aligned therefore not dangerous. Unless your party when full retavol (retard+evil)

>>51788823
S&S can be so much fun, but it needs the right GM and players in the right mindset.

>>51788844
I was exaggerating. She's actually very high-functioning, and they didn't disown her. They're just ashamed to talk to her because she's such an Azlantaboo that she renamed herself and worships Aroden.

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>>51788851
Proper engrish is for faggets.

>>51788883
And Geb isn't dangerous either because he's a basement dweller who lives in fear of Nex and never does anything.

>>51788776
Not him but I'm suddenly looking for a module to run for some 5th level players. Any of those start at that level? It'd be weird to just jump in on the second book of modules to get a level 4 start, I think.

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>>51788956
Bullshit, he haunts the whole nation.
Did you forget what happened when an army of feminazi amazons tried to invade the peaceful and civilized land of necromancers?

>>51788978

He walked outside, cast one spell, and then went back inside to resume thinking about Nex.

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>>51788978
>Did you forget what happened when an army of feminazi amazons tried to invade the peaceful and civilized land of necromancers?

He got out of his chair, wheezed to the window, and REEEd at the normies to go away?

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/pfg/, I need help deciding a character! We're gonna be playing Curse of the Crimson Throne and my party is a Synthesist Summoner, an Avenger Vigilante, a Symbiotic Slayer Vigilante, and an Incanter, but the only one who hasn't picked is me! We're using 20 point buy, and most third party that isn't DSP is allowed!

>>51788592
Marginally, depending on what you play as. There are some Archetypes that allow certain things only in dim light for example.

>>51788997

Ooh, ooh! What about a Slayer? A small-town boy or girl caught up in the big city!

>>51788978
>Field of Maidens
Literally one time 400 years ago because he wanted some dolls figurines.

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>>51788991
That is far from being harmless in my book.
Also those amazons became an unique kind of undead.
Nex is a mayonnaise gargler who is too autistic to even go back to his own homeworld.

>>51788997
ENLIGHTENED PALADIN OF KURGESS!

>>51788904
Cute

>>51788735
Ones who invest in Conjuration and Divination
Unless your that one Triumverate member who failed to stop himself from getting killed by a fighter despite having predicted it well in advance

>>51788974

Not really, APs tend to assume you're in for the long haul. However, you can probably find something on this list: http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Category:5th_level_adventures

>>51789064
I see. Thanks.

>>51789031

Nex is a good boy, he didn't do nothing wrong.

Geb just set up shop next door and started trashing the place because he's got a thing for the stiffies. Nex noticed the neighborhood was going to shit and just died on the way back to his home planet.

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>>51789025
Dude, Geb is one of us.
He only wanted an army of Sisters of Battle.

>>51788997
Sounds like your party needs a healthy helping of Kitsune shota trap sorcerer.

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>>51789145

>>51788757
I want to say Runelords but I know in my heart that they are horribly flawed in some way (by design of course). Karzoug would have had a good shot at it but the adventurers more or less spawn killed him, Krune, while very powerful had very little ambition and would probably not have given any fucks anymore even if he didnt get Coup de graced, Zutha doesnt have abjuration so he can probably be countered relatively easily, Alaznist is just there to be ineffectual but moe villain and Xandergul probably won't be making an appearance anytime soon because paizo wants to save him for his own book most likely. I'd say its Belimarius or Sorshen if they were ever given the chance just because these two are ruthless as fuck.

Sorshen has probably already been up and is in control of some sort of major power.

>>51789031
>Nex is a mayonnaise gargler who is too autistic to even go back to his own homeworld.
That's because he accidentially banished himself due to trying to find a cure to get rid of Geb's constant Plague WMD and Blight spam.
Because Geb was so autistic he couldn't stand the idea of a Wizard nation not ruled by Necromancy, so he just decided to Scorch-Earth the whole place

>>51789210
FUCK OFF
EVERYONE HATES YOU

YOU ARE #1 ON THE LIST OF THINGS THAT KENDER WOULD BE #2 ON

>>51789210

Can you have one as a pet?

>>51789247
Maybe if you're a monk with a vow of poverty?

>>51789236
>not wearing stainless steel armour and using stainless steel weapons

Lorewipe-anon here. No, I'm not here to advertise today. I'm just here for ideas on how to un-break Geas/Quest. So far what I've come up with is:
--Make Lesser Geas and Geas/Quest have a limited duration, regardless of whether or not it's open-ended.
--Make creatures that have broken out of a Lesser Geas or Geas/Quest, immune to further uses of them for the same amount of time they were affected by it.

>>51789229
Is hinted in both Curse of the Crimson Throne and in Shattered Star she indeed is awake and active but hidden.

>>51789236
>EVERYONE HATES YOU
It's not even their fault though.
If anyone ever wanted to make a race with more Tiefling Syndrome than a Tiefling, a rust-blooded would be the most sob story of sob story races.

>>51789347
Explain further.

>>51789266
Alt+7 makes a bullet •

>>51789296

The question I guess is, where?

Could she be Natala Surtova, the sister of Noleski Surtova (King of Brevoy) and a jealous barrier to anyone who wants to court the young bachelor king?

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>>51789236

>>51789347
>a rust-blooded

Wouldn't that be humans?

>>51789347

>She keeps nibbling on the paladin's gauntlets

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>>51789043
Thanks!
She tapes her ears down to pretend she's not a half-elf. With -2 cha and no ranks in disguise.

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>>51789233
He also created the Lens of Ghalundari and Worldscape which are still active and causing trouble today.

>>51789357
Thanks anon, I'll use it tonight

>>51789356
Nobody would be hated more than a rust-monster-descended race. A character of that race would be bullied and chased out of town by literally every able-bodied person in the setting. So if you have a player who MUST play the most tragic backstory of all time every character they make, the rust-blooded race would be for him/her.

>>51789387

>Human-obsessed half-elf that hates her elven side

Milani please GO.

>>51789364
Unlikely. She is too smart for that shit. Bitch is one of the oldest wizards in the setting and was the one and only Runelord of Lust since the empire was founded. She's probably living in a city somewhere chilling in a mansion while controlling the world via proxy.

>>51789399
Don't, you have people who care about you!

>>51789393

Honestly, that's pretty much standard wizard stuff, leaving a bunch of incredibly powerful devices/enchantments/whatever lying around for people to trip over.

>>51789381
How to Get Smited, A Guide

>>51789364

>Jealous older sister who thinks no woman is good enough for her Otouto.

Cute.

>>51789406
I dunno, any druidic circle would probably love to have someone that can destroy metal with ease.

In fact, if a rustborn tiefling were raised to be a civilization hating hippie, they would probably think they're the chosen one or some shit.

>>51789236
But how do you feel about Rust Dragons?

>>51789464
Would commit suicide because they can't horde gold.

>>51789464

>Breath attack disintegrates all metallic items in possession

YAMERO

>>51789437
Ain't anything evil about that. Rust monsters gotta eat. No more evil than a clueless deer chewing on a bit of treant. Should give that rust thing something proper to nip at like your metal canteen or the codpiece

>>51789480
Remember that one dragon that breathed swords?

That was pretty bad ass.

>>51789484
Then it's How to Make a Paladin Fall because she would still try to smite you and make the attack. And you'd deserve it.

>>51789478
I have one I play for RP for funsies. She likes to horde gems and magical things instead. She likes snacking on ores. She's cyoot.

When it comes to clerics, can you pick any subdomain if they have the domain? It seems a bit weird to me, because some deities have explicit subdomains and I'd assume you couldn't get any of the other subdomains or even the main domain.

>>51789500
That's a pretty dense or inexperienced paladin if they think smite is the only option ever, who let that paladin go without their cleric handler?!

>>51789463
It wouldn't be a tiefling: rust monsters are aberrations.

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>>51789364
Eh more likely leading Aspis Consortium from the shadows, or one of the Pathfinder Society 10 masked men.
Or both, for that matter.

>>51789525
Deities have explicit subdomains they grant access to.

>>51789527
Paladins dump Int. It is known.

>>51789546
Why? You get Cha to saves and a good Will save, dump that Wis and let anyone else handle SM/Percept.

>>51789534
I vote for being the mastermind on Aspis Consortium but is most likely the one who charmed Mengkare and is promoting the Noble Experiment in her attempt to breed perfect submits.

>>51789410
I don't know where the idea that Milani doesn't want to be part elf comes from. In her article in Reign of Winter it says that she doesn't hate elves, she just resents people who flee from conflict and expect others to clean up the mess, which includes most of the Kyoni elves. Not even all of them. She doesn't care about being elven. She dislikes the distanced attitude that many elves hold.

Is there anything you can do to make another attribute qualify you for strength requirements on feats? Like the way Artful Dodge puts all dex requirements on int.

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>>51789364

>mfw Abrogail Thrune is Sorshen
>mfw she orchestrated Cheliax collapsing into Diabolism from the start

>>51789565
Oh right. I forgot Paladins didn't Wis anymore. And I even played one a few months ago.

>>51789579
>she just resents people who flee from conflict and expect others to clean up the mess

>Milani hates refugees

>>51789578
Mengkare is a Veiled Master!

>>51789617
No, because refugees leave with the understanding that they won't be coming back and go to make their new home a better place. She hates that guy who "has to deal with something" every time there's work to be done and then comes back to get paid.

>>51789364
>TFW Sorshen is Sivanah

>>51789364
Sorshen is probably Sarenrae

>>51789638
>because refugees leave with the understanding that they won't be coming back and go to make their new home a better place.

What? That's either a colonist or an immigrant, a refugee is explicitly someone who flees a warzone but is most likely going to go home when the fighting is over.

>>51789660
Refugee repatriation is incredibly difficult and exceedingly rare, as well as likely to fail in many cases. Almost all refugees who are accepted into a host country will never return.

Is there any way to get a single oracle revelation besides being an oracle?

>>51788456
>>51788463
Why does everyone hate Opportune Parry and Riposte? Especially when it's gotten at virtually no cost to a class that ISN'T Swashbuckler?

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>>51789727
>Almost all refugees who are accepted into a host country will never return.

Sucks to be Swedish, I suppose.

>>51789727
>>51789660
Also refugee and immigrant are not mutually exclusive.

>>51789740
Using it costs two pool points to do the whole thing, which mean the magus is blowing his load even faster than normal. Magus already has problems with that.

>>51789740
I first have doubts on whether a 3/4 BAB class is even going to beat any monster's attack roll, then I look at what a Magus is already doing with its swift actions and doubt you'd get much countering in.

>>51789779
You only spend one. The immediate action attack just requires you to have at least 1 left over, without spending it.

>>51789819
Didn't they errata it so a magus never counts as having at least one point?

>>51789846
That's Arcane Deed, which is worthless because of it. Doesn't touch Flamboyant Arcana.

>>51789871
Even then it's still pretty shit. You have a fuckton of things you can spend your pool points on and lack the accuracy the make the point expenditure worthwhile. I WANT to like it, but paizois intent on making sure everything related to swashbucklers is shit.

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>>51785536
>check catfolk heritages again
>realization that neither of the "big cat" heritages are plus wisdom
>despite big cat animal companions being among the wisest companions you can have

this really noogies my noggin, along with the internal "REEEE" at how you can't opt out of the psionic/akashic racial abilities that a lot of heritages have.

The interesting thing about Milani is how her followers function when they're not being ruled by a tyrant. They're okay with government, but they're also incredibly paranoid. When you've got a good government, you don't beat your swords into plowshares. You hide them in the basement and teach your kids how to use them in case the government ever goes too far.

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>>51790033

What, you don't want a big, doofy lion friend?

>>51790044

Followers of Milani are gun-toting conservatives that believe in the Right to Bear Arms and have a dozen children to take up their stockpile of weapons?

Are worshipers of Milani Sovereign Citizens?

>>51790066
Lions are smelly.

>>51790100
>Followers of Milani are gun-toting conservatives that believe in the Right to Bear Arms and have a dozen children to take up their stockpile of weapons?
Well, Milani has been slowly taking and replacing everything Erastil is/has.

As for the Sovereign Citizen thing, yeah that sounds about right, but aren't those usually the opposite of/vilified extremely by conservatives?

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>>51790126
YOU TAKE THAT BACK.
All cats are perfect, even the big ones.

>>51790128
>Well, Milani has been slowly taking and replacing everything Erastil is/has.

Is Bioware really that ashamed of Erastil?

>>51790066
But I do, anon. The Lion and Tiger heritages are still my favorite ones! It's just a little disappointing is all! Besides, we all know that the doofiness of animals is because of low Int!

I kind of want to play a Bakeneko Tiger in order to LITERAL ANIMAL on another level, but the lack of ability to get away from undersized weapons is a bit of a shame.

>>51790148
No, lions smell bad.

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>>51790126
>>51790163

That just means you need to help them groom.

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>>51790150
>Is Bioware really that ashamed of Erastil?
>Bioware
Not sure if intential or accidental, but still funny and apt all the same

>>51790033

What are the stats for a Lionfolk?

If you were to pick a weapon made out of silver, which kind of weapon would you prefer? Same with Cold Iron.

>>51790128

Has she? Erastil's basically rural/pioneer God, big on hunting, farming, community, and family. Not sure how well that fits Milani.

>>51790193

Silver for monsters, cold steel for humans.

>>51790187
It's pretty good, I'm merely a sperg

>+Str/Cha, -Dex
>+2 for Diplomacy and Intimidate instead of Natural Hunter
>lose sprinter and cat's luck but get powerful build

>>51790033
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Hold up
Catfolk heritages?

>>51787164
I think it's mentioned somewhere that to become a cleric of Arshea you have to spend a year living as the opposite gender.
So there's that too.

>>51790203
>Has she?

Jimmy J loves loves LOVES to talk about Milani every chance he can get, and in some of the more recent works that expand on deities, Milani is super big on community, rural folk and people falling in love and having big families (she encourages people to have kids.)

>>51790218
Bloodforge infusions my man

>>51790203
Check the more recent books, Milani has been pinching on the "backwoods champion of the rural folk" bit really hard in recent years.
Heck, she's been the one getting mostly all the Ranger and wilderness-themed archetypes and options as of late.

>>51790204
No, they're both for monsters.

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>>51790213

Sounds like the ultimate Paladin race to me.

I want to be a gloriously incandescent Leonine Paladin with a luxurious mane!

>>51790218

Yeah, the latest bit from Bloodforge threw the "why no variant stats for catfolk" people a bone.

>>51790204

I mean a dagger, a sword, a flail...?

>>51789578
>Mengkare
What alignment is he anyway?
Lawful Evil probably.

>>51790234
>Heck, she's been the one getting mostly all the Ranger and wilderness-themed archetypes and options as of late.

But anon, that's what rebellious folk would be working with! The wilderness!

Ooh, and maybe she should be big on having kids, and she's always looking out for farming communities which obviously means she needs to support hunting.

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So /pfg/, what kind of dragons are in your campaign?

>>51790228
>>51790249
Is this 3pp?

Rewrite Derring-Do to be an awesome ability and I'd play Swashbuckler or Homosexual Magus any day. That one ability being pure unmitigated trash in every way is what makes Swashbuckler fail to deliver on being the skilled stylish class it's written-up to be, instead of a dude who just does swordfighting nearly-okay and absolutely nothing else.

I'm not saying it would be good at all (well it might make some Maguses better) but Swash isn't even FUN and is a nonparticipant outside of fights. No matter how weakly, they'd at least be able to play the fucking game with the rest of the table, you know?

>>51790226
>>51790234

But she's supposed to be all "Can You Hear the People Sing", getting all them college students and whatnot riled up in the cities.

>>51790269

Yyyep.

>>51790266
The thicc kind.

>>51790242

But anon, that cat doesn't have a mane!

>>51790266
NONE. They're all dead. Dragons as a race died saving the one floating continent on the planet from the spewing chaos of a gate to the Far Realm that the players in the prior campaign failed to close and covered the rest of the world in horrors.

>>51790288

Nope, her role has expanded to include country folk, community and the wilderness.

Because that's where revolutions happen.

>>51790288
Tell that to JJ and the Paizuri Club, they've been hammering the "Defender of the countryside" bit super hard as of late.

Hell, I think its probably in anticipation of the Nirmathis AP, as well as a way to phase our Erastil for being "problematic"

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>>51790249
>>51790228
>Dose Cheeto catfolk stats
I would love to use that for my alchemist but lets be honest, everyone hates catfolk and pitching one for pfg games instantly gets the h8trs riled up.

>>51790266
The ones with big anime titties.

>>51790340

Because he lost it.

IN THE WAR.

>>51790348

Just like Cayden Cailean has kind of been fazed out.

>>51789229
I want to marry Alaznist!

>>51790340
Why the fuck can't humanoid lions trim their unsightly fucking beards but everyone else can?

>>51790266
Fuck that anime for ruining the dragon tag on every image site without tag filtering.

>>51790365
Why are Bakrakhanians so moe?

>>51790362
>Milani exists to replace both of the two most "Problematic" good gods by replacing both of their portfolios and mixing them into one
Frasier was a mistake.

Why can't we just hit the universal reset button, and have hings go back to the way they were when the ISWG had just dropped?

>>51790266
Ok I'll bite, what show?

>>51790342
>Because that's where revolutions happen.
I think you're being sarcastic, and I'd like to hope that, but I still can't quite tell sadly.

How does one minmax kobold tail attachments?

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>>51790226
Milani's backwoods ranger theme dates back to 2013 in her Reign of Winter article. Before she was a goddess she was a Kyonin/Andoran hero who rallied people to fight against Treerazer.

>>51790408

This wasn't Frasier's fault, Milani is JJ's baby.

>>51789527
I play the cleric that works as the Paladin's handler in my game, but the joke is that the paladin is the doubting straight man and the cleric is the inflexible zealot, and the cleric's "handling" is just more crazy brainwashing and lecturing for their Lawful Good crusader cult.

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>>51790348

Well, that's dumb. Erastil was the one who saw humans cold and hungry in the wilderness, and decided they needed a hand up. He's a great god.

>>51790448
>she was a Kyonin/Andoran hero who rallied people to fight against Treerazer.

Isn't Treerazer still around?

Did the pfsrd lose a bunch of the vigilante talents on there?

>>51790473

pfsrd is losing everything right now, so probably.

>>51790473

pfsrd lost a bunch of fucking everything l m a o

>Milani is goddess of revolution and revolts
>but is also becoming god of backwoods, rural, and agrarian communities
>tfw figure red out the perfect revolt for her to champion
Hail to the bonny-blue flag which bears a single star!

>>51790448
And we still complained about it back then too.

>>51790473
pfsrd never got its shit in order desu.

Now that their migrating to a shitty new template, you literally have no reason to not go archives of nethys as long as you're not looking up 3pp.

>>51790417
Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon. It's cute.

>>51790465
Treerazer is a nasty fight. He turns everyone around him into plants and then kills all plants in the area. But she pushed him and his minions back to Tanglebriar.

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>>51790527
of course I forget my pic

>>51790554
I liked it better in the old lore how it was through the tenacity of the elves of Kyonis that they were able to push him back, not relying on some demi-god champion of the Patron of Humanity to di it for them and only do it half-way