The First Born

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>>51775664
maybe he found a rock under his pillow that had always been waiting there for the right moment for him to find it

upon it would be written a reason for him to join those guys, in 4th grade english, in prose expressing complete amazement at the most childish and simple concepts you could possibly imagine. think the sort of writing that would make a 8 year old roll its eyes over how patronizing and intellectually and emotionally immature it is.

>>51776029
Wow this sure is helpful

>>51775664
The Protoss have many ruthless figures in their history, the Tal'darim are the natural end point of that when not bound by codes of honor and later ethics from the Nerazim, Remember Even Tassadar was willing to glass planets, he was just the first one to think of giving the terrans time to evac, all it takes is a Protoss to think Artanis is making the Protoss soft

Anything to do with seeking power or a love of strength, Tal'Darim politics are game of thrones in space times 10 and their entire chain of ascendancy political system gives a powerful, intelligent warrior a way to command immense amounts of troops and resources as long as they can fight off the enemy.
Maybe joining them to gain power to fight an enemy or something along those lines? If you haven't already there's a great short story on the blizz website about Tal'Darim politics and the chain of Ascendancy, starring everyone's favourite dickhead, Alarak himself.

So basically the Tal'darim is group where anti-social and ruthless Protoss can go and thrive? Like a Protoss criminal would have the choice of serving his sentence or join the Tal'Darim.

>>51776864
possibly, but the Tal'darim had their own rules too, for example attacking a superior outside the ritual combat of Rak'Shir is unlikely to get you any friends, their version of Immortals are the Vanguard, criminals forced in a walking torture chamber until their crime is payed back in death, and the Blood hunters exist specifically to hunt down the disgrace of the Tal'darim

>>51776864
They were a religious extremist sect of the Protoss who served an evil god, the god shaped their culture by talking to their 'high lord', teaching them that the only thing that matters is to be strong enough to be free or some weird shit like that (I'm real tired at the moment so my lore knowledge is dusty), this created the chain of ascendancy. The chain is essentially a ladder of power, every Tal'Darim is a part of it from the lowest to the High Lord, whoever is below you is your servant and you can command them as long as it doesn't interfere with anything someone above you in the chain has said.

So it's ruthless might makes right protoss who were led by an evil god, overthrew him and now we don't really know what they're up to. Also introduced the one memorable new character in SC2.

>>51775664
There's two Tal'Darim. The ones in wings of liberty are just an example of protoss ideology taken to an extreme, and the Legacy of the Void Tal'Darim, which are a shit attempt to make edgier dark templar.

They're still the best part of Legacy. Fuck that game was stupid.

Are Purifiers sentient enough to be PCs?

>>51777262
Plenty of them are

>>51777259
Starcraft has always been a fucking cartoon

You think Artanis and Alarak have get togethers?

>>51777380
Unlikely, Alarak seems content to have simply cut hostilities after their alliance against Amon had served it's purpose, After that Artanis's problems are his own

>>51777409
More like Alarak comes to Artanis when he's bored.

>>51777470
hard to say, if Blizzard makes another DLC campaign for SC2 I'd love it to focus on the Sith-toss

>>51777259
Everything post WOL was fucking awful lad, anytime I mention it I get Starcraft 2 fanboys jumping down my throat, the campaign missions, cutscenes and voice acting are fucking on point but how can you defend the fucking story! Zeratul died for that shit, we lost everything that made the Zerg the Zerg and a lot of the Protoss fucking dickheads to have a feelgood anime tier prophecy piece of shit that did no justice to the first game, even if Brood War and Sc1 weren't exactly the non-cheesiest things around they weren't fucking post WOL tier awful. Fucking hell, the zerg were zerg and not a fucking bunch of Pokemon for an angsty teenage bitch to push around, the Protoss were twats who glassed planets all over the shop and now they're just fucking friends with everyone, the protoss fucking fought alongside zerg lads.

Post WOL starcraft story hurts me greatly.
Still grinding to Grandmaster league though, god help me but that shit's like crack to me, fucking RTS games are my kryptonite.

>>51777510
So what the idea of an actual alliance against a greater threat offends you? This isn't 40k where people are incapable of pulling their heads out of their asses. I'm happy to be fre of unlikable dicks

>>51777510
Dude Kerrigan doesn't control the swarm anymore. If anything SC2 ending reset the status quou

>>51777505
I want one on Niadra, that Broodmother that's abandoned on the Protoss ship on the way to Aiur, that could bring back some SC1 all out war goodness, a proper Zerg swarm returning to invade and fuck up the Protoss, none of this bitch zerg shit we had, hopefully Zagara brings it back though.

It hurts knowing we're not gonna get any more story than the shit we got for years now, I don't even know if they're continuing SC after the Nova packs. Fucking kill me lads, I'm addicted to ladder and I need my Starcraft for fucks sakes.

Starcraft lore got shitty when they tried to redeem kerrigan
Then she became jesus

At least my boi Abathur is still alive.

>>51777560
By all means I'd love a Niadra Game, with Zagara playing nice in the Novel, we need some non feral zerg to be an asshole still, that's my thing, I'm fine with non-dick versions of any faction existing as long as the asshole versions are still running about

>>51777564
I was on board for her redemption, but making her one with the phoenix force was awful.

>>51777559
Zeratul died giving artanis a haircut

>>51777612
He's Overqueen Zagara's bitch, he tried to make the zerg act like the zerg again, plotting against her even, he got bitch slapped hard for it

I thought Zagara is following Zerg directives like good ol fashion Zerg?

>>51777559
>>51777555
yeah, I'm sleep deprived so I'm probably not making much sense.

First of all, I'm ranting about the events of mainly Legacy and HOTS, Post 'old zerg' Kerrigan felt like a fucking whiny teenage girl. I'm happy she's gone and we can go back to actual zerg, not pokemon friendly zerg we had under Kerrigan.

The thing that pissed me off was how the Protoss who fucking glassed inhabited worlds whenever they even suspected Zerg infestation just fought alongside them no problem.
What makes it worse is the failure of the in game events to make amon and the hybrid seem scary. In the lore we all know Hybrid are these alien badass super powerful mind control fuckers but in the game all we got was a spooky voice and some squid, don't even try and tell me Amon's reveal fell flat, we got a poor attempt at an eldritch abomination god thingy that just looked like an aborted squid.
I wouldn't mind the alliance if we had some Protoss very pissed off about it considering the Toss we see in Legacy are from the Spear of Adun, they're not clued up on current events, just look at Rohanna or whatever the preserver bitch was called, these toss should be pissed about having to fight with the race that killed their gods but we heard nothing.
I get what you're trying to say about the banding together against a greater threat and that makes sense to me, you're totally right that it makes sense. I'm hardly even awake at this point so I'm probably about to chat absolute shit here.
I think that I'd be fine with the alliance if we didn't have them fighting on the same god damn battlefields, us not hearing anything about the huge majority of their army who should be fucking rage that the race who destroyed their homeworld and borderline doomed their race is now their ally and they're expected to fight alongside them no questions asked, hearing stuff about it from Alarak, Fenix, Karax etc would make me less annoyed as I know we're not gonna get random zealots giving input.

>>51777631
Personally i would like to see terrans being terran,protoss being protoss, zergs returning to being zergs, and like 2 new factions

>>51777714
remember the Epilogue that mentioned an unexpected growht of life on once barren worlds? it was Zagara using Zerg made sleeping beings to magic it up

Read and Rage here http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft:_Evolution

>>51777748
Or it could be kerrigan and raynor adan and eveing it up

>>51777723
I feel you, but man get some sleep

>>51777773
Never mind just clicked on the link, still kinda stupid but less stupid than that

>>51777773
no the book establishes this

>>51777723
Fuck I was totally incoherent there lmao, sorry lads but I hope you know what I'm on about. I think the villains who are supposed to be fucking GOD TIER WTF SHIT powerful fell totally flat, if you don't read the lore and stories you'd have no idea why they're supposed to be so powerful, scary and significant. The story we got was "oh no hybrid are like uh zerg and toss together which is scary because they've got strong bodies and good minds and shit" it was totally skipped over in game, same with why Amon was significant "it's like an uhh bad god and stuff?", if you read the lore you know this is some bad shit that needs to be stopped but in the game it's laughable.

Also taking away the evil swarm zerg pissed me off. Kerrigan's teenage girl arc in HOTS where she just cried and got angry about Raynor was annoying too, I know they were trying to show she was human again but bloody hell it felt so over the top and pointless to me.

Then we have the fact that these two races who are ancient enemies were totally chill with eachother and we heard hardly anything about it. I can understand Nerazim and Khalaii coming together to fight with no questions asked or concern raised but we get more short stories and lore about tension between them in the alliance period than we do with protoss zerg tension. It felt like they just conveiniently forgot that these Protoss warriors should want to fuck the Zerg up, even if the Zerg were bound to kerrigan's will and obviously didn't have a traditional zerg leader who would want to fuck them up.

How did Zagara become so... Nice?

>>51777803
Will do. Cheers anon.

>>51777877
I'm guessing it's because of the mind fuckery Kerrigan makes Abathur perform on her. In HOTS from what we saw of her though she still seemed like a 'proper' zerg broodmother who wanted to go do old zerg stuff. Anyone got a source for all this Zagara being nice stuff btw? I can't find much on it, I must be missing a novel or short story or something.

>>51777877
SHe's clearly trying to follow Phoenix force Kerrigan's lead as the new ruler of the swarm, Abathur clearly wants to just go back to the way things were, hell even his army is nostalgic in Co-Op Commanders

>>51777925
Linking again, no real reason I can think of aside from wanting to emulate Kerrigan Senpai more http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft:_Evolution

>>51777944
Based Abathur, knowing current Starcraft story I wouldn't put another Brood war off limits, Niadra and Abathur vs Zagara would be satisfying, it's a shame that Zagara has apparently become 'nice' though, all through HOTS I got the taste of 'old zerg' coming back when kerrigan was gone which I was looking forwards to, RIP cool Zagara I guess.

We need Niadra Protoss genocide machine back.

Primal Zerg are under Deaka right? Is he still alive?

>>51777964
>http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft:_Evolution
Cheers mate, ordering this shit tomorrow, sounds like it's gonna send me crazy with my current hate for a lot of Legacy stuff but I can't turn down some more SC lore.

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>>51777944
I don't know bout you guys but i voted for abathur

Do Raynors Raiders still exist?

>>51777987
I'm slowly plotting out a set of Campaigns, the first has Niadra as an antognist, the Third one is exactly that, Niadra and Abathur tearing up the koprulu because Niadra's sole meaning in life, Murdering Protoss is exactly what Abathur needs, it would end with a massive Siege on Slayn culminating in Niadra tiring of Abathur commanding her and they fight it out, in the end Zagara gets him and decides his skills are no longer worth his liability and starts getting more ruthless herself again

>>51778033
yeah he's still alive, no idea if he's with the swarm or off on his own with his pack

>>51778119
Does Abathur have command capabilities. I mean he's all tjats left of the Overmind's legacy

Yeah its like a new Brood War is brewing.

>>51778038
Fuck nevermind just finished reading the plot, that shit will make me rage, it just seems like they're driving the nail into the coffin for 'old zerg'

>>51778224
Niadra still exists somewhere, killing Protoss

>>51778242
Oh thank god for that. I was worried they'd forgot about her and abandoned the plot hook, I mean Niadra's brood and the UED are the two main things I'm hoping for in the next campaign, whether it's DLC or starcraft 3.

>>51776029
i kek'd

Would love to play Tal'Darim skinmed Protoss

>>51778072
most of them Joined the Dominion under Valerian Mengsk

>>51778163
he seemed to command the zerg, in the novel he collaborated with a zerg queen that shared his views

>>51778216
Just in tiem for the UED to arrive as Stukov has heavy handedly predicted, I think Co-Op commanders is being used as a stort of test bed for potential new/subfactions

>>51778304
Skins are around the corner I think

>>51778370
Can we hope for unique UED units?

Would you rather deal with nukes or battle cruisers? You know that mission.

>>51778656
distantly, not out of the question but so far not hints, save the Spartan Company Goliath mercs, established as UED survivors

>>51778672
You at least don't need to hunt the dot and use detection on battlecruisers.

>>51775664
I'm not big on Starcraft lore so I can't help you with your question, but might I ask what system you plan to use for the game?

The only nudge of help I could throw in is that you might make the players start as a joint-forces team in some really dire situation where the different Protoss factions are forces to cooperate by an outside problem.
After that, they can stick together through the bonds forced during that time.

>>51777262
Purifier "AI" was made from what's essentially mind imprints. They all are robot clones of someone who existed at some point. Purifier!Fenix didn't even realize he was a robot until explicitly told so, after which point he pondered his existence and chose his own name

>>51781002
There are a few that are straight-up combat AI like purifier zealots.

>>51781058
Still imprints. If it makes beepboop sounds - it's a "proper" AI, if it speaks - it's a 99% accurate clone

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>>51781372
Man i don't remember shit

At least I ca appreciate SC2s attempt to not make the Protoss and Zerg as a monolithuc species

Cutting of your nerve cords essentialy bar you from using the Khala right? Everyone who cut their netve cords in the ending of Legacy are basically Dark Templar

>>51782589
essentially, though it seems that they can manage a more traditional psionics still

Reminder that Kerrigan became an Avatar of Khaine

Shame the games went to such shit after WOL, I couldn't even finish the protoss campaign

>>51782589
Dark Templars/Nerazim still have different customs and shit, severing your nerve cords doesn't automatically make you one, but it does fast-track you to being one

>>51785048
Legacy was leagues better then heart of the swarm, I'm willing to put up with alot but Kerrigan lost me when she had to leave because her home planet needed her

Daily reminder that the best part of Starcraft is the UED.

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>>51790183

I know Protoss can't have sexual tension, but damned if I didn't see Artanis and Selendis wanting to do the orifice-free nasty.

The Khala Sutra.

Making a life for Auir.

>>51791968
They have females, they have tits. It's enough to justify it for me

>>51791968
Just imagine how difficult raising the next generation of protoss will be since they'd have nerve cords while their parents don't.

>>51792530
Oh wow.

Imagine puberty with a Khala of nothing but teenagers and children.

>>51792530
it actually sounds like some good social drama to create new factions

>>51792608
>>51792623
Come to think of it, the Tal'Darim still have their nerve cords, but don't use the kahala. I'd imagine there would be talk with them on just how they manage that as they develop.

>>51792675
that's partly because they left before the first Eon of Strife, thus had no exposure to Adun's Kahla, but they also use drugs like Sundrop and Terrazine to keep themselves cut from it

>its a starcraft discussion episode
we don't have these often enough, none of the /v/ related boards ever seem to actually talk about it

>>51791968
>Protoss don't have orifices
I've always thought that this is stupid.

>>51794053
Engineered aliens too alien for you?

>>51777723
You are the anime faggot if you believe people who once fight each other cannot work together when circumstances forced them to.
Real life history show that it happens.

>>51792782
Its a shame because after void the setting is really open to an rpg.

>>51794053
They absorb sunshine and happiness. It makes a lot of sense really they are a post eating species.

>>51775664
When the Kuala shatter, A became lost until Tal'Darim(T) found A.

P is just memory of someone else, he seek his own path and that lead him to T

N dislike the unification, so he wanted a place away from home.

Can Zerg be playable PCs after LotV?

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>>51777380
Im aure Artanis and Vorazun still have "get togethers"
IF YA KNOW WHAT IM SAYIN

>>51797177
>not Selendis
You will accept my extremely obvious pairing and like it

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>>51797191
Never.

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I want to lick her face and make her get over her disgust for human mouths

Does Abathur have what it takes to be Overmind 3.0?

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>>51798158
I certainly hope so.

What are the major Terran Factions other than the Terran Dominion?

>>51798203
The Umojan, aka Sir Not-Appearing-in-this-Film.

>>51798203
Defenders of Man?

>>51798203
The Umojan Protectorate, the Kel-Morian Combine, and the United Earth Directorate (though I'd argue they really should be their own faction with their own technology.)

StarCraft 3 is just UED vs Niadra's/Abathur's Swarm vs Tal'Darim. Would you play?

>>51798352
Yes.

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>>51797177
> implying Alarak isn't part of those get togethers too

>>51798158
No. He doesn't care who leads the swarm as long as he can continue tinkering with it.

>>51798455
Have you been reading the thread?

>>51798166
ahh yes Abathur, you seek efficiency, what exactly was efficient of about giving her heels, dat ass and boobies, not that I'm complaining but they seem.... extraneous

>>51798455
if you read up you will learn he Opposes Zagara's Rule, He may have been undyingly loyal to Kerrigan, but this doesn't extend to Zag despite her attitude change only being an extencion of Kerrigan's wishes

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>>51798679
Incorrect. Most efficent design possible. Perfected. Removes weight. keeps feet elevated. Distracts enemies. Inclusion is non-negotionable.

>>51798679
Pretty sure she already had dat ass and boobies.
The heels are totally just his magic realm though.

https://youtu.be/MD1rIEJZsp8
Zagara

https://youtu.be/uVOBLTS0lJc
Abathur will make Zerg great again!

Overall Blizzard still makes cool characters in SC just crap story.

>>51798982
Well Chambers and Metzen made good campaign for Wings of Liberty.

>>51798352
Yes, if only because Warcraft IV is never coming out

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>>51799488
WOW wrote them into a hole they can never escape. There is no way to have a sequel with the clusterfuck of a story WOW is.

Have to admit the battlecruiser design is pretty good.

>>51799872
Before I thought those were gunds on the Battle Cruiser but I realize those are warp nacells

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Carriers only has one pilot right?

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Hugs

>>51797095
What the fuck would you play as, a queen under Zagara's direct control? A mindless infested terran?

>>51801332
>Babby's first sculptris model

>>51794053
What's stupid about it? Lots of lifeforms on earth have no orifices.

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SELENDIS A CUTE!
A CUTE!!

>>51799515
There is still hope

>>51801843
Primal zerg, sapient brood mothers, perhapse other new constructs, also intelligent infested still exist

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>>51792475
Protoss having tits is the most retarded shit ever. They got NO FUCKING MOUTHS!
THEY HAVE ZERO GOD DAMN ORIFICES!!!
The only way tits on protoss make any amount of sense is if they are some sort of glands the mommy protoss use to literally lactate on the skin on their babies, because protoss absorb ALL of their nutrients trough their skin.

>>51803223
Just get over it and fap in peace, zeratul had nipples

>>51803566
Which again, is stupid and probably a result of Blizzard being wholly composed of incompetent hacks these days.

Protoss having tits breaks my suspension of disbelief far too hard for me to fap to that retardation.
Protoss chicks should be flat as a board.

>>51803597
That sounds boring and unsexy, get out, also if they have no openings then they shouldn't have women at all, they'd be like namekians, which is even more boring

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>>51803006
Abathur turns into a mindless beast without the hivemind. An engorged primal zerg is your only choice if you want to play as something like Dehaka

>>51803640
>That sounds boring and unsexy,
Maybe if you are a dull faggot that cannot appreciate alien beauty.

>also if they have no openings then they shouldn't have women at all, they'd be like namekians, which is even more boring

Wrong.
Sexual reproduction is in no way, dependent on having orifices and needing to stick stuff inside of them.

The protoss pass material trough their skin in order to feed and excrete. They could just as well pass genetic material via skin contact, thus meaning that handholding would be equivalent of sex to them. And their babies could bud off from their mommies, thus needing no friggin holes trough which they need to pass.

Protoss have no tits. The only titties Protoss is from a female dark templar from the now non-canon StarCraft Ghost

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>>51804114
Vorazun is the best grill.

>>51804277
Not Selendis

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>>51804405
She's a stuck up bitch.
Whereas Vorazun is a qt.

>>51777849
I agree that they really fucked up demystifying the hybrids by turning them into generic baddies instead of the deep dark mystery they were supposed to be, and HOTS with all of its zerg "personalities" reminded me of how Voyager rekt the borg in Star Trek by making it all about the queen's personal whims instead of having her be a centralized focal point for the will a true hivemind. The command structure of the zerg in HOTS seemed way too human.

But at the same time I can understand why Kerrigan got as upset over Raynor as she did. She was very isolated from and reviled by humanity for such a long time, that upon becoming human again and regaining the emotional frailty that comes with being human, any emotional link to humanity that she could find would be very significant to her, and it would make sense that having that only link taken away from her would upset her more than an ordinary person.

>>51804701
>The command structure of the zerg in HOTS seemed way too human.
I also understand that that's kind of the point of being ruled by a human personality but it lacked flavor.

>>51804701
>The command structure of the zerg in HOTS seemed way too human.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the infested human with military training in charge

>>51804858
Fucking terrans ruin everything. They need to go back.

>>51804858
>>51804716
I do say I like the brood mothers over the cerbrates, even if they don't reincarnate, they have more personality overall and can at least defend themselves, that said I wish they looked like more then a beefed up queen

>>51805123
Abathurs sigh of relief when Kerrigan said no more human experiments. Humans really fail.

>>51804701
I actually have to wonder, if any hybrid have survived past Legacy of the void, what do they do now? They were meant to be Amon's Angels of Death, his heralds of a new age freed from the suffering of the eternal cycles, now he's dead, again, and all he left them is a galaxy that rightly despises them. Shit can they even breed without a lab?

could be a window for all sorts of motives

>>51805155
that was mostly because outside rare psionics with the strength to not turn into vegetables from it, infestation of humans was something of a dead end, good only for making quick thralls, where abathur would prefer to make things that can benefit the swarm long term

>>51804114
>>51804277
>>51804405
Any of the three shipped with Artanis make sense, anyway.

>>51805231
> Not shipping Artanis with Alarak
Plebest tier.

>>51805231
I suddenly realize we've never seen a protoss child

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>>51805665
We don't see many children in SC at all.

Aside from the zerg, of course.

>>51805728
>let me tell you why that's bullshit

>>51805665
Are you sure? Did you ever think that perhaps as babies Protoss children don't look humanoid...perhaps as children they exist in a crystalline pylon like state...

>>51805191
I imagine now any that survived would be a combination of feral Zerg "MUST CONSUME" (but directed at psychic energy of sentient beings rather than just physical biomatter) with some limited intelligence and cunning. Think 40k Genestealers operating outside a Hive Fleet.
In fact, bringing the Genestealer analogy further, they might start cultivating doomsday cults of thralls who've had parts of their minds eaten away, that bring human/protoss sacrifices to the Hybrid.

>>51805665
You can see a couple in this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQnmfEka3vw

>>51777316
>Starcraft has always been a fucking cartoon

Starcraft was never going to win any awards for its writing, but SC2 kicked the stupid up a notch, and Legacy was literally worse than stuff I've seen on livejournal and gaiaonline.

>>51805835
much of their actions depend on if they can or can't breed and just how much of their will was bound to Amon's

>>51806122
ahh, well they exist, that helps

>>51807079
well unless offscreen lady hybrids exist, I'm not seeing it, unless they can assimilate protoss into new hybrid

>>51809128
>>51805835
this is what needs to be done with hybrids, because Legacy caused Amon to hijack any time they could have had to be fleshed out into more than his elite mooks, we only ever see one named Hybrid in Wings.

So what will the SC3 zerg be like? I can Imagine that Izsha might get mass produced as the new advisor [to avoid players confusing the advisor with lines from a brood mother character] Abathur will be the key to fracturing the swarm into those willing to play ball with other races and those who still want to fuck over all others.

>>51809524
What if some of them turned into nice guys?

>>51803223
They have no mouths thats the only thing confirmed.

>>51810502
hard to imagine, their god may be dead but has been an eternal presence in their head, and all the koprulu sector will want them dead at a moment's notice, that said if they are indeed capable of individual thought, it's not wholly inconceivable, simply unlikely

>>51777510
WOL was godawful garbage, too. Starcraft and Brood war were my favorite games. I spent years playing them. WOL is my least favorite game of all time because of how much of a fucking massive disappointment it was. It still hurts. Fucking dipshit writers couldn't give Jim any motivation outside of wanting to dick kerry.

>>51810437
SC3 will be Niadra's brood vs. Tal'darim vs. another UED expedition so we can go back to everyone being xenocidal bastards again.

>>51810764
what is the obsession with "everyone is assholes" settings?

>>51810803
Because that way you don't need enforced stupidity to prevent cooperation and peaceful discussion. It's an RTS, people are supposed to be fighting each other, and there's less room for a crappy writer to fuck it up if it just makes sense on the face of it that these people all hate each other and are going to fight it out.

>>51810803
It's a strategy wargame setting.
We don't need EVERYONE to be assholes. But the nature of the stories being told really require that all the playable factions are.
Having "nice" versions of all the factions too is great, in fact, because it lets you do some missions where you ally up with an NPC player, but the only real way to justify different armies that aren't just a mishmash coalition of Protoss/Zerg/Terran Good Guys is if the player factions are morally grey at best.

Making Tal'Darim "good guys" was one of the best decisions of LotV

>>51812196
its the combination of making them edgier looking while adding depth through an alliance with the heroes, while never breaking character from their overall villainous personalities

>>51810518
Read that text again.
It explicitly says no orifices whatsoever.
It is from the Starcraft Field Guide, it is as official as it gets.

The Protoss have zero holes in their body.

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Hey kid. Wanna genetically engineer races?

Anyone remember those Terran Psychic raised by Protoss?

>>51813920
Boy do I!

>>51813808
Yeah and its bs. They can't absorb and secrete without orifices.
Wheres that text from?

>>51814439
Just looked it up and its written by a non-blizzard guy.
Yeah sounds like a branded outsourced fluff book. They are always shit.

>>51814439
Read the fucking text.
They excrete and absorb material via their skin, thus no orifices needed.
This has been part of SC lore since Starcraft 1.

>>51814473
It is official fucking lore, it comes from Starcraft Field guide, that came with special edition of LotV.

>>51814520
Ive read it I think its shit. Problem?

>>51814654
Well, your opinion doesn't matter, because canonically, protoss got zero orifices, and none of your bitching will change it.

>>51812196
They didnt really become good guys. Alarak made it clear it was a short term alliance. Otherwise he expected all the other Protoss to submit under his authority.
At the end of LotV they now stand as one of the only antagonistic factions left.

>>51814693
No it does because scientifically they would have to have an orifices to function. As described in the text.

>>51814724
>No it does because scientifically they would have to have an orifices to function.
First off
>bringing up science in regards to fucking ayy lmaos from soft scifi setting.

Secondly, your very assertion is wrong.
There are life forms on earth that have no orifices and live just fine.

The protoss skin works as both the method of absorbing nutrients from their environment, as well as excreting waste.
They have no reason to possess any orifices.

>>51814748
The text says the absorb and secrete in biology that is called a permeable membrane.
What the author wants to say is no major orifices.
Their body is covered in tiny orifices though like a human.

>>51814770
Well duh.
Tiny orifices, or as more commonly known, pores.

What they lack are major orifices like nostrils, ear holes, mouths, anuses, etc

>>51814715
that said some stayed with Artanis's melting pot of protoss tribes, justifying some former tal'darim working with him, for what it's worth Alarak has yet to act against his cessation of hostilities, having only acted overtly against the Defenders of Man, and the Dominion who were not ever part of his agreement

>>51814800
And even then, those were retaliatory attacks because the Defenders were intentionally aggravating them.

>>51814800
He gave them an ultimatum that they had only one chance to join the templar.
So the Tal Darim are a break away faction. I liked that they went at length to explain their different motivation.

>>51814824
oh definitely, they also made Alarak far too enjoyable as a villain to really soften his character

>>51814810
granted that was by their design, knowing he'd go all out without regard to the bystanders in his way, adding another blow to protoss/terran relations as per their agenda, while his reasons are more easy to get behind, he still kinda got used as a pawn

>>51814824
>they went at length to explain their different motivation.
Their motivation can be summed up as "evil god-following Protoss"

>>51817115
Their evil god is dead now..

>>51817213
They're still a bunch of raiders and "honorable" warriors or whatever it is Alarak is doing

So, how hard would it be to brush up alternity and add content from the recent starcraft games?

>>51817115
Their motivation is "follow the chain of accession."

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Time for old art

Raynor is so well liked by the Toss.

>>51817115
Except when their god betrayed them. Then they were revenge Protoss without even blinking.

>>51828537
Alarak went on the revenge spree while Ma'lash stayed loyal to Amon.

>>51828738
Alarak was the leader.

>>51828781
He was the first ascendant, then became highlord with the help of Artanis and his forces.

>>51828781
Alarak was A leader until he dueled Ma'lash and became THE leader

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I have returned!

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>>51828899
>Replace dragoons with immortals
>Add dragoons back in campaign
>They're outright better than immortals

>>51829355
They aren't though one for one. Immirtal is tougher better anti armor and will kill a dragoon in a few shots.

>>51829355
>>51829430
Scratch that, i forgot that dragoon is under ranged warrior and immortal is robotic assault. Been a while since i last played

>>51803223
they were created from a predator species, dude

>>51804701
The first time I saw Voyager, I thought the Queen was BS, but seeing it again as an adult after watching TNG in order and at once as well makes me think that Voyager greatly enhanced the Borg, making them scary as fuck Spaes Hellraisers.

>>51828853
From his perspective he was always the leader :^)

>>51829597
So?

So would you rather the hybrid be killed off and the story move on or, handle a resergient hybrid society that possibly derverged from amon's design?