Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1346: Saucy Saurians Edition

Someone said the new digimon had a perk to stay in your most powerful form, I am not seeing that anywhere though so does anyone have any ideas how to pull that off?

Jumpers!
Have you ever run for office?

>>51753108
Yes, I was president in west wing because my imported race would accept no less.

>>51753135
>my imported race
which was?

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>>51753108
You poor fool.

>>51753108
Nah, too much work for too much responsibility.

I'd rather just whisper suggestions in the right ears.

>>51753143
A bunch of jojo esque mindflayers. They have glorious hair.

>>51753173
>whispering suggestions into someone's ear

SLUT
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>>51753173
Ebon dragon perks from exalted infernals are wonderful for this. As is that narnia perk where you know peoples desires.

>>51753106
Sure they weren't thinking of Sustained Evolution from the original jump that lets you stay at whatever level of digivolution you want?

>>51753210
Strictly speaking, Ebon Dragon charms are better for traumatizing people into following your "suggestions", and then being too ashamed of what happened to them to tell anyone or act against you. He's fairly poor at actually convincing people to do things the normal way. Cecylene's the one who's about knowing what people want and playing on that to manipulate them.

>>51753188
Well, that too.

What? Ten years in worlds featuring proper Semen Demons and not making a plan hit sommadat? While waiting for just above 300 years before I can take companions with me?

No Game No Life alone had Jibril, then there was Tomb Raider and Lara, not forgetting Skullgirls with Filia...after I modified Samson to have an off-switch, which I learned the basics from Naze in Medaka Box.

So. Yup. Bit of a slut I was. Since stopped, partially because I'm pretty sure Rin would explode all of my alternate selves' nuts if she caught me, Io would fuse all the demons and accidentally YVHV me, Mami would give me a disappointed look then SUDDENLY WITCH, and Saeko...woooooould prolly make me wish that she did kill me.

Positive reinforcement helps prevent cheating spouses! Am I right or am I right?

>>51753210
I didn't mean it in that sense, more like:
> Shit's on fire over here yo, sort it out. If you can't, I know a guy who knows a guy, for a favour as per usual.

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What jump has perks for summoning equipment?
I want to be able to raise up my Evangelion at almost any time. It's the only way to be sure.

Are you around Professor Paradox? There's some questions for you in the archive.

>>51753413
Personally, I summon large equipment with a system using the digitizer from generic virtual world.

I keep large items digitized (which also saves on space), and keep the digitizer hooked up to a computer system in my warehouse. When I need to retrieve something, I open a portal just large enough for a digitizer beam, and use a remote to direct it to materialize therough the small portal.

And by putting a timer function on it, I can also use it to "beam" myself into my warehouse via a hole too small for most threats to follow (since the 1 day safety for sentient beings is a bit long for a jaunt to the warehouse)

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Howdy /JC!

Baten Kaitos Origins Jump 080:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Spirit [+300]
Malideiter [+300]
Location: Anuenue
Origin: Spiriter
Perks:
Apothesis [-300]
Gear:
Quest Magnus [Free]
Magnus Mixer [-100]
Heartbrace [-400]
Celestial Tree Seed [-600]

Companion Import [-200]

“Interesting,” I said as I observed the world through the Shingan, “your growth is amazingly progressive.”
“You know you’re kind of terrible at this whole tempting me to the dark side thing.”My Host laughed a little at that. “No offense.”
“No offense taken,” I would have smiled had I the ability to do so, “if anything I’m the shard of Malpercio that was mostly sympathetic and forlorn, even those of ‘evil’ nature have hearts that feel. Everyone has some level of sympathy, even your Gods who were so callous about so many things.”
“You’re fascinated by that thing aren’t you?” My Host said as I saved our Calm Conversation away in the Quest Magnus with an effort of will. My Host picked up the card without any showing of surprise and slipped it with the other seven.
“Yes,” I said as I drew out the will needed to do still silent magic and filtered it into the real world, “everything has Magnus Essence and that intrigues me beyond all other things. I wish to learn more of this world and it’s magics. I wish for my soul to grow wings.”
“You don’t seem to lack them,” My Host replied as they glanced about at the Ruhk who fluttered around us, “but that’s not the sort of wings you were speaking of.”
“No,” I said as I filtered out the information of my Shingan again, “that’s not what I meant.”

>>51753108
Why run when you can just take it

Are there any perks that let you copy someone's knowledge/memories without hurting or killing them?

>>51753788
Animorphs has a perk that lets you copy someone's memories by morphing into them. Copying them will put them in a dazed morphing trance for a minute, but it won't hurt them.

>>51753788
Matrix allows you to extract knowledge and skills into computer files that can presumably be copied, and using the Wireless upgrade to the Plug item you can do that in a painless and non-invasive manner.

>>51753823
The whole not copying other humans is just because they are squicked out over it right? There is nothing stopping them from copying other people right?

>>51753106
Digitalian does that, but works with allies. Get it for a companion?

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>>51753108
Nah, it's too much work and too boring for me.

...Didn't stop me from still getting elected that one time though. That's what taught me I should probably toggle some of my charisma perks off most of the time.

>>51753846
Problem is, the way its written it only works on digimon.

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>>51753108
I usually prefer turning people into loyal vampire or attach spirits to them to keep them in track.

Getting nanites inside of them that would leave them paralyzed or allow me to take control over their bodies if needed is also an option.

I can get the whole operation running in less than month after my arrival.

>>51753788

Like mentioned before there's Morphing Memory from Animorphs.

Also not sure if this counts, but Tsukihime has Artificer which lets you make a type of magic item that can let you read minds and copy memories.

>>51753836

I think it was something about them deciding it was 'immoral'. However yeah there doesn't seem to be anything preventing it. Plus that perk would be kind of a lot less useful if you couldn't.

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>>51753108
Oh yes, Anon & Wilkins '01. Nothing like being the President of the United States of America to bolster a prospective overlord's CV. The campaign trail was smooth sailing, since we made a point of culling or kicking out all the dark powers who weren't down with the establishment. Wolfram & Heart browbeat a lot of special interests into line; it's much faster to conduct a blood curse than push through legislation if it's the right time of the month. Though at the time, there was a bit of a stink about the then-First Lady being a depraved hellgoddess preying on the hearts and minds of mortal men.

So there was much rejoicing when Glory devoured the Clintons' souls.

>>51753250
To be fair, Glories That Never Were breaks tradition a little to induce supernatural nostalgia on people. And it's just as valid as the others for enhancement by Memory Poison Mastery, Twisted Yesterday's Curse, Unreasoning Prejudice Infliction and Dark Claws Seize Dark Hearts.

Actually I thought Cecelyne's a lot better at detecting wants and needs than actually capitalising on them. Almost all her authority Charms are geared for demons (and later, gods). All I can think of for talking to anyone else is Inner Voice Betrayal. Endless Torment Emanation is just psychically making everyone around you salty.

>>51753413
Kirby has Royal Magic. I think MMX has a vehicle towing thing too, but it's been a while.

The Oberon guy here again. Looking for not evil companions but more amoral friends oh and more lackies, can never not have more loyal servants

>>51753882
Huh. Eggman's more hardcore than I ever thought. Guess this is yet another thing the animated series lied to me about.

>>51754010
It's lackeys.

What is a good jump to learn how to build deathbots?

>>51754045
Thank you for the correction

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Do we have any ways to resurrect beings, without any souls or corpse since they just kinda dissolve into nothingness upon death? ...after around 4500-ish years?

>>51754074
Terminator?

>>51754117
At this point you're just recreating them, not resurrecting them right? I think Overlord (series) has bodyless rez. Not sure if that setting even has souls.

>>51754130
I suppose recreating would be the better word, yes... Overlord doesn't have a timelimit? If not, that'll do nicely.

>>51754117
Dragon Ball wishes

>>51754149
Who's the lucky son of a bitch you're trying to give a second shot?

So, in the FSN Jump, the Grail Campaign states that you and your Servant are gonna go on wonderful adventures taking on other Grail Wars. However, what if you turned down the Command Seals and therefore, the Servant?

Could you replace the Servant with the Master you allied with with the Master Alliance Perk?

>>51754117
2 wishes from dnd. First wish for a body then wish to resurrect them.

>>51754130
Overlord has souls, Ainz accidentally soul sucked some folk while trying to take exp from them.

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>>51754176
You still need to beat all the other teams if you take the drawback, even if you turned down the Servant. You have to fight them all alone and for no reward.

No, you wouldn't get them as a Servant. You chose to turn down the Servant, thus you must do it alone.

>>51754199
Lewd

>>51753879
You might need to read it again:

>*When working alongside individuals who can evolve, you can freely shift their forms back and forth along their evolutionary chain as long as the evolutionary state in question has been achieved. This occurs at no cost to the target in question.

>>51754252
That's still just for evolution stuff, not transformations or staying in most powerful forms in general. Much more limited then what the guy was looking for at first.

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>>51754166
Ah, right. The 'dead for less than 1 year' rule got removed later... Interesting.

>>51754183
Not sure if that would work, considering his body's literally just a pattern of energy he's holding together with magic and will.

>>51754173
A fellow named Dreaming Steel. He was a Fae who fell in love with a human commander, then fought with her against the other fae who were trying to destroy the world.

Both of them died, and she keeps reincarnating with memories of him... But he just dissolved, since he didn't have a soul to reincarnate.

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>>51754033
Comic Eggman is a scary motherfucker.

He would have easily conquered the world without Sonic, and depending on the timeline, he has already done it even with Sonic being there.

The early games and some of the TV series begin with Eggman already controlling the world.

>>51754221
Hmm, noted. I kinda reread some stuff as I was looking through my Chain and I realized I could woven the Grail Campaign drawback into Rin's background of being Zelretch's chew toy, being sent to other dimensions and such as she studied the Second Magic.

Eh, I'll figure out another narrative I guess. Thanks for the answer Val!

Oh, before I forget, one last question.

How does the Magic Core interact with Magic Circuits? Is one replaced wholesale by the other? Or is there some crazy synergy between the two?

>>51754252
Here is the half the perk talking about evolutions. It seems pretty clearly to work only on digimon.


In the case of Digimon however, you might come across something peculiar given enough time and training. Every so often a Digimon will gather enough energy and experience to evolve – and it isn’t uncommon to find Digimon that can evolve into multiple branches. So long as the Digimon you’re working with have achieved some sort of evolved state, you’ll be able to help them shift freely between each of the forms that they’ve already attained. As you happen to be facilitating this transformation, they’ll be able to shift their form at will without draining any of their energy to do so. With enough time and effort, adapting and evolving a basic program into a Digimon isn’t out of the question. That said however, even the most basic of Digimon is far more complex than a basic program, so you’ll probably have to exercise whatever programming muscles you have for a fair bit of time until you can cultivate a Digimon out of it. It isn’t just a matter of writing code of course – even with the code basis, you’ll still need to dedicate a fair bit of energy into breathing life into the program, as well as training the resulting Digimon.

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>>51754360
No problem.

Magic Circuits just get incorporated into Magic Core. So you've just got one core and buying more Circuits just makes it bigger by the same amount more Circuits normally would.

>>51753788
Drain Knowledge from Clone Wars.

>>51754334
Fffffuck!

That's pretty scary that is. I wonder how many other kids' shows have nightmare fuel that passed me by...

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>>51753106
Speaking of Digimon, have any of you checked this motherfucker? He can be create by combining two Demon Lords, and aside from being stronger that its two components, his ability allows him to ignore any damage that has any hint of malice in it.

Apparently trying to damage him counts as malice.

>>51754370
Read the summarized explanation of the perk at the end of the document (or check >>51754252 again) . It explicitly says 'individuals who can evolve', not just Digimon. That's just flavor text.

>>51754117
I think that the Magicka Revive can do that, but not really sure...
I mean the jump mentions that Revive doesn't really care about specifics and just does its job but...

>>51754431
Either way that is clearly not what was asked for, the anin above asked for something that would allow you to keep your most powerful form. In most cases that is not going to be a digimon or pokemon or something that randomly evolves.

>>51754284
>Dreaming Steel
setting?

>>51754392
Hmm, I see. Thanks again!

Well, time to make sure absolutely no one finds out about this and my First Magic, or I'm gonna have "Sealing Designation" hastily scribbled somewhere on my Files.

This should be fun!

>>51754431
I am pretty sure it doesn't apply to what I'm looking for though. I want to be able to stay in a super mode indefinately and I am unsure if things like frieza forms, saiyan powerups, or other such powerup forms count as evolutions. Specifically I am trying to use it with an infernal shintai to stay in a powerup form mode.

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>>51754446
Yeah... I'm not sure that'll work after that much time.

>>51754491
Exalted. He's a pretty minor background mention though.

>>51754117

Like >>51754183 said you can use Dungeons and Dragons.

However the answer isn't two wishes, but True Resurrection. Unlike Raise Dead and Resurrection, True Resurrection can bring back Outsiders and Elementals.

The thing that makes this important is that Outsiders and Elementals don't have souls (or rather their bodies and souls are one unit). So killing them basically destroys their soul.

Which implies it can restore someone from soul destruction.

There's also a lower level Revive Outsider spell, but that would reply on that type of Fae counting as an outsider.

Alternatively I think I remember Tome of Magic having a process for reviving someone erased from existence.

>>51754410
Watch out for vampires.

>>51754410
What if something with no emotions attacks you?

>>51754664
Wanting to damage it still counts as malice as far Ogudomon's "atonement" ability is concerned.

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>>51754580
Ah, thanks. That should work... Though looking at the SRD, True Resurrection would require a caster level of 450 after so much time.

Seems closer to an abberation than an outsider, so I guess I'll look into the Tome of Magic thing.

>>51754717
Sounds stupidly op and arbitrary to me. Who thought this was a good idea?

>>51753108
A Fork of me did in Youtube. Doing it myself would just take up too much of my time that I could spend reading.

>>51754717
What about environmental damage?

>>51754737
Well you could combo that into ising masters of magic stuff to break the spell down and cast it over time as a ritual. May take a few years but along with some help you could probably do it. Who are you resurecting?

>>51754765
Any damage contains malice. Even rain or lava contains malice. As do falling rocks.

>>51754765
Im kinda wondering if you could bless him to death by healing so much he gets digital super cancer.

>>51754787
Where exactly are you getting this info? All it says on the wiki is that digimon with even a small amount of malice can't beat him.

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>>51754769
Hm, yes, that could work...

>Who are you resurecting?
Answered that one here >>51754284 already

>>51754787
Stop falling for the pathetic fallacy, anon. It's pathetic, says so right there in the name. What do you mean, that's not the sort of pathos it's referring to?

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>>51754745
It's not the first Digimon to have this kind of ability. Zeedmillenniummon can only be damaged by attacking his core from its insides. Lucemon: Satan Mode has a similar arbitrary ability to shrug off damage, since his true body is inside a nigh-indestructible sphere that repels almost all attacks and the big ass dragon is just a puppet/projection that will regenerate any damage done to it.

And he is supposed to be the incarnation of all 'sin' in the Digimon multiverse, of course he is going to have some bullshit abilities, considering how many Digimons come with a lot of similar abilities.

>>51754803
Damage counts as malice.

>>51754844
No, it doesn't. Malice is the intent to commit evil. Hurting the personification of all sin and evil in protection of good and innocent people is not evil, especially not if the person is doing it just to protect those people. So unless you can come up with some quotes, Your average paladin would straight up ignore your supposed BS defense.

>>51754797
It should also be said that the true Demon Lords and Ogudomon are multiversal constants, they can't be truly killed while a hint of sin still exist in the Digimon multiverse. How that works outside their native multiverse, I don't know.

>>51754765
Probably not, because it's unlikely that there is any natural phenom that can damage a Digimon of his level.

>>51754867
Wanting to hurt others still counts as a small portion of malice.

This is his current card description:

>Ogudomon is a grotesque Super Demon Lord who has seven legs and eyes, as well as an eighth eye. As it includes the whole of the Digital World's sins, and moreover, is a mysterious personification with the ability to atone for them all, the power of a Digimon with even a small amount of malice is counterbalanced, and it is impossible for it to defeat Ogudomon.

>>51754896
So it's only a Digimon that can't hurt him, then, since he only holds the sins of the Digital World.

>>51754737

If it's long enough ago that you need a caster level of 450 then you might want to try for an epic spell instead.

Since True Resurrection could revive them an epic resurrection spell with less limits should be possible.

However unless your using weird loopholes epic spells tend to be hard to cast, and tend to take a lot of time and resources to develop.

That and there's the issue of epic magic being 'Here's a toolbox. Figure out spells on your own'.

However it looks like it should be possible with the Life, Summon, and Transformation seeds. Possibly Contact and Transport as well.

>>51754896
No, it doesn't. If you're wanting to hurt them just to cause pain or misery or in service of your own goals, then it is evil. If you're wanting to hurt them to protect innocents that they are threatening, then it's not.

Yes, nothing in that card matches to what you say. It only says that even a small amount of malice is enough to be affected, not that trying to hurt him at all counts as malice.

>>51753108
I haven't yet, however I will when I hit West Wing. I try stay out of politics in most jumps, after all you're only there for 10 years on average.

>>51754920
It says right there that its ability makes impossible to defeat it. But hey, it's not my problem if you want to ignore it.

If you want to say that hurting others can also be seen as 'pure good', you can go with that. YHVH would be proud.

>>51754965
So you're an idiot unable to read? It says it's impossible directly after the part, in the same sentence, where it says the power effects digimon with even a small amount of malice. Are you so incompetent you can't recognise this means that it is impossible for digimon with even a small amount of malice, not that it means it's impossible for anyone, since that contradicts what the rest of the thing says?

>>51754965
No, it says it's impossible for a Digimon with any malice in it to defeat it. There are lots of things that don't fall into that category.

>>51754981
>>51754987
He's probably a shitposter looking to start something over power levels. Don't get so wound up by him.

>>51754987
>>51754981
It's not my fault that you can't read.

>>51754965
>>51754896
Something is weird about his description. It seems to me that he should be working off those sins, I mean he can atone for all the sins in the world but he just keeps making more? If you find a way to kill him are all sins forgiven as they have been atoned for? What if someone therapy-fu'd him and he decided to suicide? What then?

Being digital could you just use programming to erase him altogether?

Would being a high level technopath allow you to mentally screw over or control digimon?

If i'm going to get waifus in a gundam jump do I need to stack up on therapy perks?

>>51755016
Depends on the waifu. Some of them are actually fairly balanced. But yeah, a lot of those bitches be crazy.

>>51755016
It probably wouldn't hurt, how many therapy perks do we even have in Jump chain? I don't know of many myself. I mean I think warframe has a zen perk that can help with therapy but is not on its own a therapy perk.

>>51755013
Okay, shitposting, got it. Proceeding to ignore you.

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>>51753788
Roguelike from "The Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes" but you have to be careful not to drain them too much or they will die. jump also has "supreme mind" to be able to handle all the new memories

>>51755048
Yorokonde likes to throw those into his Jumps. FLCL has 'Swing the Bat', which works better on yourself but can help out others too. Zootopia has 'Disney Magic' which let's you therapy people while enjoying misadventures.

And of course there's Psychonaughts for pretty much all your psychic therapy needs.

Anyone know if x23 shows up in ultimate spiderman?

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>>51754074
Gunnm, eclipse phase, G.I. joe, girl genius if you don't mind them coming out a little odd.

>>51755048
I think the new alterworld d. Rus jump has a reasonably good one.

>A Family reunited- 200
>You've completed a secret quest: A Friend in Need! You reunited someone kidnapped from the real world with their family. Reward: A Smile of Fortune- Luck will follow you around for one full week. It will increase your crit chances, send you rare loot and do various other things associated with good luck and Gods' assistance. The real boon of this achievement is that it allows you to see what must be done in order to help cure the mental illnesses or traumas of another, allowing you to guide them through their problems and back to sanity.


So thats a pretty good ability for 200.

>>51755191
...it only lasts for one week?

>>51755212
Not him but I did make the jump. The luck boost is a 1 week thing, the mental trauma helper is permanent. It shows you what you would need to do but not how to do it.

>>51753788
Harry potter has pensieves. Magic memory copying is awesome.

>>51755048
worm has a lot. 'well adjusted', 'you are not alone', 'perfect communication skills' (if you try to help them), and the hero capstones can probably be used for therapy too. some of the powers might work to.

>>51753154
>I spent over 75 Million dollars just to tick jumpchan off.

Alright /jc/ I'm getting ready to end my Chain can I get a list of all the End Jumps and Jumps with End Jump options

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>>51755391
>ready to end my Chain
I don't understand this notion.

>>51755391
Gurren lagann
Devil Survivor 2
SMT
Darksiders

There's more but I can't remember.

>>51755444
Basically I have gotten to a point where I want to start fresh with a new Chain built on a theme instead of a whatever I feel like build, but before that I want to end the Chain I'm doing now

>>51755391
Asura's Wrath CAN be an end Jump, but thats the only one I can think of mentioning it.

Truth be told, any Jump could be an end Jump if its thematic enough.

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100 cp - Division Boost (HP Recovery)
Each division of BLADE boasts an increased functionality in at least one area, usually relating to their job. As the explorers, members of the Pathfinders have access to an upgrade for their mimeosome which increases their regeneration and healing capabilities. Under normal circumstances, Nanite Repair would not activate in the heat of battle, bar someone using a healing technique. However, thanks to the upgrade, Nanite Repair is now always active, allowing you to heal constantly, albeit at a reduced rate, 1/4th of Nanite Repairs full power.

100 cp - Division Boost (Ranged)
Each division of BLADE boasts an increased functionality in at least one area, usually relating to their job. Interceptors are the warriors and monster slayers, which has lead to the creation of the Ranged upgrade. When installed into your mimeosome, any ranged weapon you use will have its damage increased by 1/4th. Unfortunately, this does nothing for reload time or for your actual ammo capacity

100 cp - Division Boost (Melee)
Each division of BLADE boasts an increased functionality in at least one area, usually relating to their job. Harriers are the defense force of NLA, fighting Tyrants and other unusually powerful Indigens who stray too close. Their division boost is the Melee upgrade, boosting the damage of all physical attacks by 25%.

100 cp - Division Boost (Item Drops)
Each division of BLADE boasts an increased functionality in at least one area, usually relating to their job. Reclaimers are responsible for going out and reclaiming scrap parts and broken machinery. Anything that NLA can still use, but got lost in a skirmish with Indigens, or similar. They possess the Item Drop upgrade, which allows them to recover more parts from scrapped machinery as well as various materials from dead Indigens.
...Actually typing these out, i'm no longer convinced using the division boosts as 100 cp perks was a good idea. Shit

>>51755529
Can we not do this game mechanic percentage buff stuff?

>>51755541
Probably.

>>51755541
If he doesn't then it wont be true to the setting.

>>51754392
Updated Supplement With Skill Rank Clarifications When?

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>>51755677
A long time away. I'm doing like 4-5 jumps primarily right now and almost twice that on the side at any one time. Got so little time for working on something that might not end up on the drive when I have all these jumps to do.

>>51755800
>that might not end up on the drive
Is it a Pokemon jump?

>>51753108
I accidentally took power in Demolition Man after I got fed up with the incompetence of the Friendly vs Earle powerblock struggle.

>>51753413
Object Duality from Problem Sleuth?

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>>51755825
...no. The Supplement with all Skill ranks filled in. Might not end up in the drive if it seems like it'd cause a fuss and be too much bother to go through.

Sides, haven't been that interested in pokemon for years, mostly. Still need to finish Sun. Just get distracted all the time.

>>51755825
Probably a lewd jump. Remember, she was one of the main people responsible for driving off SoAnon.

>>51755391
tenchi muyo

>>51755906
Please don't force your fanon on the drive. Remember when Muyo did that with Asura's Wrath? That jump is now considered the defining example of BS in this community.

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Disregard unloved shitposter, answer question.

I know there are a fuck-ton of perks that boost all of your magic in the chain, but how many ki/chi/qi/ boosters are there? The only one I can think of is Kagura from the Senran Kagura jump. Do we have any more?

>>51756023
Nothing I can think of besides training your ass off with regular chi or getting good with Xianxia-style cultivation.

>>51756023
I think I saw that somebody was working on a The Breaker jump. There's probably something in Dragonball jumps, and Wuxia?

>>51756023
History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi has Enhanced Ki.

>>51755906
How does Divinity EX interact with Item Construction EX and how does it interact with HSDW?

>>51756023
Kung-fu Panda, maybe? Also, God ki from DBZ?

>>51756064
That Jump is honestly one I'm most gleefully waiting for. The Breaker is fucking awesome, and I want...no, NEED those bullshit Martial Arts.

Oh, and I really would love to go one-on-one with Elder Kwon and Yi Shi-oon.

>>51756081
You can't get Divinity EX though, that's banned since it's the realm of actual Divine Spirits.

>>51756104
>NEED those bullshit Martial Arts.
Fucking powerwanker. Why don't you go back to SB?

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>>51756081
I'd imagine the first would allow creation of Divine Constructs. Not sure why HSDW would have any interactions with either of the first two.

>>51756109
Banned in Fuyuki wars, Extra and other non Fuyuki system stuff it's just fine.

>>51756118
They look cool and are impressive from a technical point of view, plus, why wouldn't someone want to learn to stomp someone with a featherlight step?

There. Bait taken. Feel proud of yourself.

>>51756162
Well, it's High Speed Divine Words, so I'd assume it probably would interact in some manner.

>>51756023
Every xia jump allows you to boost your ki/chi just by going there.

Also does kanka let you substitute ki and mana? How does that work?

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>>51756234
Just a name.

>>51756243
>kanka

if you mean the one from negima it combines both into a single power pool temporarily that greatly boosts all the users stats

>>51756272
Hey, can I take "Denial of nothingness" as my origin and how would it interact with First Magic?

>>51756289
No idea, maybe. I doubt it'd have any effect and if it did, it'd probably be so minor as to not matter.

>>51756276
Hot damn that is useful.

>>51756234
How are Divinity, Item Creation, and High-Speed Divine Words related?

One deals with the quality of your Soul/Existence. Another deals with creating items, whether mystical or non-mystical. And the last one indicates how fast you complete an aria for a spell.


>>51756243
It combines your Magic and Chi for bullshit of the highest order.

Picture Chi being one form of chemical, slow to react, but with a constant yield of energy, and Magic as another, explosive, extremely high yield, but with a short life span. Kanka would be the reaction between the two, taking the best of each one.

>>51756023
Anima has an entire tree dedicated to it.

>>51756353

>Bullshit of the highest order
Bit of an exaggeration. It's a super mode that boosts your physical attributes, protects you from the environment and gives you energy blasts or something.

>>51756302
What does Rune Magic EX do compared to A rank?
From what I understand as a servant you have "Primordial Runes" version of Rune Magic and A rank gives you all 18 original runes.

>>51756412
Give you much better runes/much more knowledge of runes/much more power using them etc. You're lots better at rune shit is the gist of it.

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>>51756384
Not really that was Sensei-Guy just using his battojutsu punch style with his Kanka. He went from a single attack knocking out normal folks and hurting Negi slightly to tearing a ten to fifteen foot wide hole in tournament grade wooden flooring, to say nothing of the padding he may or may not have vaporized in the process IIRC. Takamichi was kinda bullshit for the early bits of Negima.

>>51756289
Do note that in taking an Origin, it will affect everything you are and do, so in this case, "Denial of Nothingness" would lead to some odd behaviour on your side.

Such as always making sure there is something filling an empty space. Or being unable to meditate because emptying your mind would go against your Origin. Or being at odds with characters that are fundamentally empty like Ryougi Shiki, Kotomine, or Shirou.

Origins are fucking weird, their presence affects the person who has it at their most fundamental level. So you might want to think about this carefully, especially since they might have minor affects on your magecraft, often the deleterious type.


>>51756384
Considering what had been the Rules in the series before Kanka was introduced and the implications that were never really explored? I personally believe that it is still bullshit of the highest order, at least in Negima.


>>51756412
Remember, EX means that there's an extra quality to what its ranking that goes against everything that is known in the setting.

So this case, it will probably similar to A Rank, but there's an extra trick, like I don't know, maybe the Runes are the Language of the Fairies or something?

>>51756431
EX kinda implies much more than that Val, it's not just a measure of power, but the quality behind it.

>>51756475
Soooo a physical boost. As I just said. How is that not what I just said?

>>51756493
>gives you energy blasts or something.
That last part.

>>51756481
If EX ranks ever liked to actually stick to that, maybe I'd believe it. But that idea is as full of shit as many other things in Nasu. EX is just a way, way better version of what came before.

Is it just me, or does TOHSAKA look like Bayonetta?

>>51756481
>>51756528
What would "Creation" as an origin do?

Access to the original Odin Runes would likely be freakishly good in Nasuverse. Is that the Rune set that is used for Servants already?

>>51756481
That's only if you awaken it. Knowing your origin can seemingly change how you act, because you'll know for a fact what your most fundamental nature is and going along with it is obviously going to be easier than anything else, but it doesn't do anything by itself.

>>51756528
Nope, there's always some-fucking-thing else involved with EX.

Example:
- IH: Reality Marbles are unique to one person and one person alone...except for Isikander and his army, they all share the same exact RM.
- Ea: There sword before swords, sure, oh, by the way, it can destroy Reality Marbles, including Earth's. Literally.
- Avalon: Not just a protective barrier, it literally takes the user to Avalon for a certain amount of time while a crazy-powerful attack is being wasted in the outer world. Oh, and technically, the user is still present in the outer world, but not really, because they are in Avalon.

Marvel's reality gems don't work outside their home universe, right? The 616 gems wont work in the Ultimate verse, and vise versa.

That said, what kind of power do they have left over after being removed? Are they just pretty rocks, or do they still do something, like generate energy or be an excellent catalyst for their respective effect?

>>51756597
I'm pretty sure one of Scathatch's battle animations is her just throwing six Gae Blogs at the enemy. 90% sure she does that with the primordial runes, so copying B rank np's is something you might be able to do.

>>51756658
They look pretty.

>>51756589
Make you better at creating stuff? All stuff?

Probably giving you a drive to create anything, minor or major, it's still there. However, you might feel a little uncomfortable at destroying things.


>>51756611
Considering that the Perks that involve the Origin sound like they are awakening said Origin you choose...unless I'm mistaken.

>>51756620
>Nope, there's always some-fucking-thing else involved with EX.
That's true of literally every np though. I mean EX rank sometimes just means it's ridiculously high powered like Karna's stuff.

>>51756589
Very little? Origins really don't do much. All things are meant to have them, yet not all things have super special powers of their own. They'll make you a bit better at magic relating to it and learn it a bit faster. Only very few people have ever gotten powers relating to their origins, several of which were also influenced by outside factors.

The only times origins really do things, outside of unique cases, is when they get awakened.

>>51756620
The only one of those that is unique is Iskandar's RM, and there's no reason to say that's because of EX. The other two are just silly to claim as this. Why are they the result of them being EX instead of just the normal effect of the NP? You don't have any non EX versions of either to compare to so claiming that they're given something unique because of being EX, instead of just being stronger overall, is completely unsupported. Neither is even that crazy.

Being stronger, by the way, isn't just biggatons. It's overall. Having a more haxy effect is just as much included under "Higher ranks mean stronger NPs" as dealing more damage is.

>>51756620
Don't EX Skills usually take a more broad strokes approach?

>>51756658
They still are the cornerstones for A reality but they aren't the local realties conerstones so the sympathy you can get off from that would be very power in some magic/chi/psychic/etc systems.

>I'm pretty sure one of Scathatch's battle animations is her just throwing six Gae Blogs at the enemy. 90% sure she does that with the primordial runes, so copying B rank np's is something you might be able to do.
Huh, that's a thing.

>>51756658
They just look pretty. MCU's gems are the only exception because people kept getting on the jumpmaker's case for some retarded reason, so just go to MCU and steal their gems. They'll retain enough to do the latter.

>>51756714
Well kinda but not really, outside of mcu they are just pretty batteries.

>>51756528
My headcanon is that normal ranks are just that, pluses are the rules saying "this is stronger than other things" and EXs are so far beyond most stuff as to make the rules go cry in a corner.

>>51756709
Fair warning, I don't actually remember what rank Gae blog is, or the runes skill. So take that with a grain of salt.

>>51756766
Yes, that is how it generally works.

So, let's say I wanted to build a Device in Lyrical Nanoha to supplement demon summoning as is seen in SMTverse Jumps, what would I need to grab?

I'm seeing Naoya's Notes and the Programmer Tree from Devil Survivor. But anything else on top of that?

>>51753788
Psychometry from Gunnm lets you draw upon the memories and abilities of any object's previous owner. With enough practice or technological expertise you can implant or copy said skills and memories directly to and from a person's brain.

How tough/good are Blame! AI compared to Digimon? I thought I remembered someone talking about blame ai doing some funky dust tornado stuff but I dont know the setting.

>>51756835
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51734788/#q51744754
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51734788/#q51745079

So I guess go to Kamen Rider NH2 and other places?

>>51756803
It's B rank, same as Scáthach's Gae Bolg Alternative.

>>51756862
I meant in terms of building a Device that would be a much better COMP, running a far better DSP, on top of casting support spells.

Think an SMT (at first) demon-summoning Caro Ru.

I'll read over the lists, but I'm not sure if they will have what I'm asking for.

>>51756935
Well better get crafting/programming perks with some efficiency on top of it.

>>51756835
A Storage Type Device specialized in summoning to begin with. Updating the software should be possible with a simple Conjoined Conjures (Card Captor Sakura). Spending some serious points into Efficentcy for your Device might be a thing you'll wanna do.

>>51756935
Actually a comp is literally just a computer right? So what would happen if you used a vastly more bullshit computer system with it? Like something that could do septillions more processes a second. Would this let you summon better or more powerful demons?

>>51756814
Would it be fair to assume that a "reverse" God Hand (i.e. a NP that no-sells defensive Skills and NPs below a certain rank) would be roughly equatable to it?

>>51756972
if my knowledge of at least how it was originally described in the books is correct, that may work, but having better rituals 'programmed' into the DSP might work. At that point you're going to have to figure out how to convert a stronger and better summoning system into digital code and have it execute without any problems, as it seems more of a software problem than a hardware problem.

>>51756994
That seems fair, so long as it's just getting through them unaffected rather then destroying them in the process too.

>>51756862
Huh, I retract my statement, there was a gem here, but sadly I already jumped both KRNH2 and F/Z.

>>51756950
Getting on that boss!

>>51756955
Hmm, I keep forgetting that CCS actually has nice stuff. Well, I know where I'm jumping next!

>>51756972
Part of the summoning process seems to deal with the strength of the Soul of the user, so I can't quite say. However, it is noted as being magitech and I have quite a few magitech perks that should help me figure things out.

>>51757008
Ah! I need to jump Fate Extra as well before I forget!

>>51757008
Did you lose interest in making Neo-Heisei during its production? The item section is really sparce, and the custom Drivers were always my favorite parts in the Neo-Heisei Jumps.

>>51757008
Digger the Devices are basically massive magical computers with huge amounts of data processing power. They are also able to sync to computers if I remember correctly, I think Nanoha is watching TV on her's at one point.

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>>51756972
>>51757008
>>51757019
So what I'm hearing is using the Ar Tonelico tower, installing that quantum chip from Webmage into it to double its processing power, then install a COMP into it... and use that PDA from Gears of War that lets you use any computer remotely. Or Sufficiently Advanced EtherScience from Gunnerkrigg Court and Wireless Interface/Arcane Interface from Storm Hawks to activate a computer from any distance.

Then installing that PDA into the Device.

>>51757011
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It wouldn't stop Berserker from resurrecting, it would just stop him from resisting my attacks.

I'm going Caster with HSDW and thought it'd go a long way towards picking up some combat effectiveness if I had some way of bypassing defensive passives like Magic Resistance and God Hand.

>>51757019
So...on a scale from 1 to 10, how "WORTH IT!" is importing Busujima Saeko into CCS as a Magical Girl in her own right?

>>51757057
...I'm listening.

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>>51757064
...ffffffff- scratch that, the Import's not happening.

>>51757011
So, how is the progress on your Fate jumps?

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>>51757127
Well, probably obvious I guess. FSN and Zero are done and I'm just starting to read Apocrypha and do that jump now. Got a fair amount of notes in Stage 1 for Grand Order too since I've noted anything as it comes up. Probably going to end up flipping between the two until one of them reaches Stage 2 I guess.

Haven't started any others though.

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>>51757064
Okay okay, so hear me out.

Ar Tonelico's tower. Fancy mancy shit and whatever. But it's also an attachment at the same time? Not sure how that works but WHATEVER, take that opportunity and modify the farking Hell out of it. Like I said, Webmage's Quantum Computer Chip doubles the processing power of anything it's attached to. Surprise surprise, the tower is just one giant-ass computer. Stick it on there.

Then just start throwing COMPs into it. Any efficiency perks you can get your hands on, whether from Worm or Zoids for its Hybridization Theory, shit like that. If you really wanna be sick about it, use 'Device Meister' from Nanoha. You know, the thing that lets you MAKE Devices? Interfacing tech with each other would help with that in the field.

Then you've got shit like App Master from Soul Hackers, the Cosmosphere stuff from Ar Tonelico... any fucking programming perk you could get your hands on. Tons of tightening the system and its code.

Then we get to the meat of it. Those perks from Gunnerkrigg Court and Storm Hawks? Imagine having your computer in the warehouse, yet you're able to call upon its functions at any time. I mean ANY time. Any distance. The PDA from Gears was really just a back-up/doubling up in case you wanted to fine-tune something quickly. But if you really wanted to be an asshole, do 'Uplink' from Code Lyoko where you can actually psychically use your computer's processing ability with your own mind for some expert control.

...then for making your own/experimenting on demons I made a huge-ass list last thread. SO YEAH, imagine having a massive computer tower you can use at any time for demonic experiments and summoning.

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>>51757057
>Gunnerkrigg Court

I feel I should point out that the deutagonist's mom built a computer system out of magical spells that can teleport things around the court, create forcefields-and bind a bodysnatching divine fox spirit which Coyote (as in, THE Coyote) considers kin inside of a plush wolf doll.

And the really weird thing is-it's so magical she can't even explain how it works to the Court using scientific principles.

>>51756861
Basically Blame! takes place inside a superstructure with at least enough infrastructure to take up the entire solar system (as in, the space between the orbits.

This thing used to be a sort of post-scarcity paradise for humans before it went out of control. Digitisation technology advanced to the point where the net sphere (the clarktech internet the AIs interact with) is basically another dimension, albeit currently a bit rundown. They can use the net sphere's technology and/or the City's infrastructure (it's not clear where one ends and begins) to interface with the real world so thoroughly they can effectively ressurect one of their agents killed in the line of duty. Or turn someone into a high level Safeguard. For reference a Safeguard is a digitised killer cyborg generated to protect the city.

Anyway, uh...I was going somewhere else with this but.

You know what? Now that I think about it?

If what little I remember about digilore (and inferred from the Cyber Sleuth jump) is correct, Blame! AI basically /are/ more grimdark Digimon. Except without special attacks/silly powerlevels, but with a much easier time of interacting with the physical world.

So as a person interested in Wakfu, just maritioned the first two seasons, I wanna know why Xelor can't travel back in time, given sufficient bullshit. Is this one of those things I won't understand if I don't play Dofus (The Wakfu MMO) or what?

Question for the thread, I am considering allowing the background for yao and mo in my update to world of cultivation to gain the yao or mo races, however this would mean being the race is background locked.

Would you prefer a background of yao and mo with a seperate race buy section that allows those backgrounds to get the corresponding race for free or does it still seem fine with you guys to have the races background locked? Honestly in setting they are pretty much background bound but have been shown to be able to have some leeway on learning. Plus being jc I want to give everyone some room to play here.

Also the races are going to be 50 cp with a optional inport of any plant you own to be your yao heritage plant and any animal you have slain to be your mo heritage beast.

Does this sound good to you guys?

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>>51757178
>Grand Order
I want a drawback with Riyo's Gudako.

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>>51757205
> maniacal_manly_giggling_intensifies.webm

>>51757218
If I'm remembering early thread conversations correctly, it's because backwards time travel is just absurdly energy intensive. Slowing and accelerated time? Sure, you're just delaying or speeding up what's already going on. Rewinding? You're actively denying reality, or something to that effect. So even with everything Xelor accumulated after all the time he's been alive, it was still just a small blip.

>>51757228
>any animal you have slain to be your mo heritage beast
What is a heritage beast, and why not import a living pet/pokemon you have?

>>51757205
Somebody hold me, I'm scared.

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>>51757064
Also for what it's worth Ancient Belkan System fits her to a T. It's literally knightly power sword combat: The magical girl fighting style.

>>51756579
Aw fuck, so that's a thing. Yeah. Yeah, I totally see it.

>Rin becomes a Counter Guardian to pay off her crippling debt

for what purpose

/the Counter Force technically doesn't own any money/

>>51756597
>>51756658
Scathach can also apparently use the Runes to create a beach episode. As in, summon deckchairs, give other Servants bikinis, the whole nine yards.

SO. I'm personally sticking with HSDW. Even though apparently it's not just Ancient Greek anymore, it's /every/ frickin' mainstream AoG magus' goto magic system except for the ones with some gimmick. For some reason.

Fuckin' GO.

>>51757263
Mo are basically people who are highly evolved spirit animals. For example a mantis mo is a person whos heritage stems from a mantis mo beast. Heritage beast would mean you are basically an anthro whatever of the beast you import, basic ones Im thinking of giving are rhino mantis and possibly crow. Both mo and yao will get a "look like a human" perk though for when they dont want to get in a fight with xiu

>>51757291
You forgot the part where said bikinis caused total reclassing

Though i think that reclassing was a diff skill

>>51757262
> it was still just a small blip.
Two hundred years of research and Wakfu collecting for twenty minutes. Nox would have hit a battery limit before he managed to get back to the twenty year mark much less the two hundred he was looking for.

>>51757178
Have you already written the Gudako Drawback?

>>51757040
If you mean part 3, it's because just trying to account for the 3 most toyetic entries in the franchise was a massive pain
just going by canon we had the Drive Driver, Mach Driver, Ghost Driver, Gamer Driver, the Brake Gunner, Eyecon Driver G...and that's not taking in the ridiculous amount of weapons and gear in addition, like the Gan Gan Saber, the Trailer Cannon...guh
all in all, we basically didn't have room for the properly priced OC stuff unless I ever went back and started creating a 1/1/2/2/4/4/6/6 framework. And even then it'd be a lot of trying to make up OC to justify it and I'm not 100% sure I have it in me to do that.
I feel like I've been writing a lot of shit in a very short amount of time, so...

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>>51757233
...is she just anime girl Abridged Popo or what. That is not a healthy stare.

>>51757218
For what it's worth, I've been told Dofus has a whole bunch of contradictions with the show's canon. Apparently Qilby has a totally different personality or something? But then, he did go mad and stuff. Anyway, you shouldn't have to worry about it too much about it.

But yeah-like anon said time reversal is basically too energy intensive for even one of the local deities to just do whenever he likes.

Speaking of time. Anyone else REALLY conflicted on that glimpse of Nox in S3's trailer? On the one hand, I feel like just on principle there's a point you should let a character rest in peace already. On the other hand, how fuckin' sick would it be for him to become the new Xelor by what he did? Totally sick, that's how much. Also him just being a hallucination or something would be a total copout

>>51757258
Have fun.

>>51757271
I haven't even gotten into the part where if the first anon wanted to, he could use Device Meister in tandem with 'Cybernetic' in Alpha Centauri to make cybernetics out of Devices and then abuse the absurd amount of cybernetic efficiency/quality perks. Or use Polity/GI Joe/Hive Queen Quest to instead make them bio-tech that can be inherited. Come on, anon.

>>51757358
I don't write, as in descriptions, anything until everything or almost everything is actually decided. It's already set as being in there (As a drawback and as a companion) but neither have descriptions.

Would dark wisdom from overlord let me study up to rank 5 in every (M:TA) arcanum? I understand the ban from achieving grandmastery, but it's done in a way that will make it so you'll never go beyond scrub tier in a few areas. And that really rustles my jimmies.

>>51757393
Honestly the Jump I'm most hyped about now is The God of High school. There's something about that setting that makes me love it. What's the progress on that?

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>Those COMP combo ideas
You're all insane.

And I love it!

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>>51757019
> Reads up on CCS
> Pic related
And magical girls continue to be fucking bullshit.

>>51757291
Taking Book of the Dawning Sky with the Left of Darkness scenario so that I can be Hayate's big bro in Lyrical Nanoha.

Then I have Saeko, Rin, Io, and Mami as my Guardian Programs.

It will be EVER so delightful, especially since I also took the Jewel Seed Incident scenario, so I'm gonna have to make sure no one notices Hayate yet as I work on the Book of Night Sky's corruption.

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>>51757368
Thanks Red!

>>51757451
Thank you for the Jumps DSAnon!

>>51757430
Pretty great actually. I have almost everything decided, some perk/item trees are fully done and generally the various trees only have one thing remaining each (Though it's usually the fucking 100cp slot that gives me so much trouble). Once I decide the last few perks and items (And drawbacks I guuuuess) I can do descriptions, which should only take a few days. So I dunno, most optimistic bet would be it being done in a week? Probably longer though. Hopefully I can get a presentable WIP before Uni starts at least.

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>>51757451
You're only going to make it worse when Nocturne comes out. Cyberizing Magatamas to let them interface with machines and COMPs, or simply digitizing them and rewriting their code to use as literal code patches to update something.

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>>51757475
Happy to contribute. Good luck, anon, you absolute madman you!

>>51757454
>Io
Good taste, anon.

>>51757496
Yes! Yes let the mad demonic science continue. Let it continue forever.

>>51757454
> Reading more on the Clow Card system.

Okay, that tears it, I need to make this a thing for Saeko somehow, she's the only one without a unique magic system. I have to.

These cards look like they can be Fun(tm).

>>51757263
Also I have no problem with letting you import a pet you have, that sounds fine to me.

>>51757489

Excellent. Looking forward to it.

>>51757547
have you found the time stop and rewind card yet?
how about the infinte space loop?

>>51757393
>As a drawback and as a companion
And this is one of the two major reasons I want the jump.

Fuck yes.

How do Digimon reproduce and do they have any kind of DNA?

>>51757621
Why do you think I was like "Okay, that tears it..."?

Sakura and her magic cards are fucking bullshit.

I'm just wondering if I could take Magician and Generous Donation to give Saeko everything the Magician Perk gives me would be a good move or just grab Ensoul and Magician, then create a series of equipment that would be her version of the Clow Cards.

I'm thinking either rings or cards, the latter is out of tradition's sake.

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>>51757621
Obligatory.

>>51757672
As far as I remember, their digieggs appear in a specific nursery location then when they are old/strong enough, they leave to make something of themselves. There also seems to be a reincarnation-like system going on as well.

>>51757691
>dat versatility
Is Sakura a Jumper?

>>51757704
Nah she's getting all this stuff from Clow Reed, who might as well be a Jumper if XxXHolic is anything to go by.

>>51757672
>DNA
Not unless they're in the real world.

>Repoduce
Digimon level up by eating data from enemies, so in theory they can just spawn copies of their fresh/in training form by ejecting bits of data.

Dusk/Dawn has digimon matching, which is where you pick two digimon and they make a semi-random egg, based on their attributes.

>>51757703
So do new ones just randomly pop into existence? I was thinking about trying to make a few of my own but don't know if I would need really good programming skills or genetics skills or if both would help.

>>51757749
They can pseudo-reincarnate, and they can kinda sorta reproduce, but new ones don't just pop into existence.

You want programming skills.

>>51757749
Well, the Cyber Sleuth jump has two perks for making Digimon out right, and you can get a steady stream of Digimon to mess with if you want to figure it all out yourself in the item section.

Although, yes, programming skills are what you want. Genetics might work outside of the digital world, but you'll just be making "regular" creatures patterned after Digimon in the end.

>>51757691
Jaysus. Just. Jaysus.

>>51757704
>>51757723
That's far, far more accurate than I'm comfortable with. However, then there's the implication that Yuuko and Fei Wang are both on his level...

The CLAMP multiverse is a terrifying place.

>>51757749
Pretty much this: >>51757792
You also need luck, just to make sure you don't accidentally the digital world with your creation, like Takuya almost did.

>>51757829
>The CLAMP multiverse is a terrifying place.
IKR?

>>51757691
So can she teach any of that or does she just know how to do that through fiat, instinct, and plot?

>>51757829
>The CLAMP multiverse is a terrifying place.
And yet I want more jumps there.

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>>51757749
Be a virus.

>>51757975
Items, representing her potential.

>>51757975
she doesnt know how to do those things at the beginning of the jump.

>>51757975
Clow Cards son. 54 Cards that are each a sapient magical item that embodies a particular form of magic.

Plus, her own magical potential as well, which, according to canon is almost at Clow's own levels. She just needs more experience.

>>51757975
All of Sakura's Magic is held in the Clow Cards, basically Clow Reed is a fuck mothering badass and he Ensouled a form of his magic into a bunch of cards so that others could use it or something. They scale to her magical potential which is apparently amazing. So she can't teach it, yet, but it is theoretically possible to get to Clow Reed's level via the Magician perkline and around 70 years of study of the local western and eastern magic IIRC.

I'm working on putting together a Stardew Valley Jumpchain. I've got a lot of it worked out already and will post it for criticism/balancing when I finish it. Does anyone have anything they'd like to see in it?

>>51757741
>>51757703
>>51757792
So they eat data to grow? I wonder what kind of data it needs to be or if I could just give them a terrabyte usb worth of game mods would work...

>>51758081

Property that follows you, A vacation option to return?

>>51758081
What is it?

>>51758104
Any data honestly speaking.

>>51758116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot7uXNQskhs

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>>51757366
>...is she just anime girl Abridged Popo or what. That is not a healthy stare.
She's something

>>51758114
I was planning on having two options for property that follows you:

Your farm itself or Skull Cave. Both need to be bought, of course, and get discounted based on the backgrounds chosen. I'll think about the return option, as that hadn't crossed my mind.

>>51758116
The game itself, you mean? Stardew Valley is a farming sim like Harvest Moon, but the fandom seems to have largely latched on to the dating aspect of the game and waifu-posting.

The Jump I'm putting together is a low-difficulty jump which can net a Jumper a few interesting items and maybe some skills that they might not already have. It would mostly be for convenience in later jumps, but not really preparing someone for an end jump.

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So aside from specific endings and the Dragon Knight joke ending, here is Kamen Rider Ryuki. This took a while and used a format I wasn't completely confident in, but I like how it turned out. I'm thinking of adding more items and perks later on, but the skeleton of events is just about done.

Let me know how it looks, and if you do not fight you will not survive.

>>51758036
Or you go the Cardcaptor route which should start you out with potential roughly equaling hers.

>>51758187
Just finished going through all the cards, and let me be honest.

I'm terrified. Absolutely terrified.

The last time I felt like this was when I learned about the Sailor Senshi's true power and capabilities, especially Sailor Moon.

>>51758221
To be fair, a lot of the powers of the cards is because they have no theoretical limit, they're basically NLF but that is their purpose so...

>>51758221
welcome to anime, anon.

>>51758221
Magical Girls tend to be OP as fuck towards the high end.
Sailor Moon is the God Emperor in a skirt and with an even more gay for her band of followers, Madoka is the conceptual force of hope and a natural law of the universe, Sakura is a 3.5 wizard who didn't dump Charisma.

>>51758177
I've always wanted to know, but what is new about Stardew Valley as a game? I've never played it, though I've played a few harvest moon games, and I never saw what made it unique

>>51758285
Having never gotten into Harvest Moon myself, I couldn't really tell you. I got it for free as a gift and ended up dropping quite a lot of time into it as a result, but probably wouldn't have bought it otherwise. Now it's just one of those things where the first game I play in a genre is my favorite and the standard I hold all others to, like Perfect Dark for FPS and Legend of Dragoon for RPG.

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>>51758185

Bodacious Babes

Great work bro gonna dive right in

11. Persona
Location: Mikage
Birthday: December 25th, Origin: Transfer Student, Persona: Strength
Perks: Expression, Understanding, Talented Artist (Dance), Red String, Self-Awareness, Psychologist
Drawbacks: Trial of the Dragon, I'll Face Myself

Thank fuck for friends. There's no way I could have avoided being curbstomped without them shouting "Dude, who gives a fuck" and "Tell him to go suck a dick!" every few seconds. I think we annoyed the shit out of that useless shadow. I mean I still had to deal with the fact that I'm a bundle of nonsensical emotional issues, suicidal urges, and denial, but now I can finally just have my friends beat them into place.

Other than combating bizarre forces in the Collective Unconscious, I got asked to prom by my Senpai. He bought me an iris corsage. It was nice.

Jumpmakers how do you decide what perks to give the Drop In origin?

>>51758104
I wish I had a gif of that scene from the digimon movie where this dude >>51758000 starts playing pacman.

But yeah, any data. Other digimon will provide variety and new attacks, but any data should provide raw power.

>>51758386
Usually it works out well to give them perks related to the artificial nature of the reality they're in or NPC skills.

Or, if you're stuck just figure out what you want to give the other Origins and then find out what's left over from the source material to give a Drop-In. They can be a bit of a Hodge-podge category.

>>51758396
>Jumper feeds Digimon his porn stash.

Would that count as junk food?

>>51758185
A Dragon Knight joke ending? Oh, Heavens, you silly. Reading eagerly.

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>>51758454
That's how you get venusmon.

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>>51757205
Hey Red? Just as a note, it's all your fault that I'm turning Io into a proper singer/dancer/potential pop star.

Kay?

>>51758386
1.) Do I have perks that don't fit into other origins or as general perks?
If yes, Drop In line figured out. If no, see 2.
2.) Is there some meta aspects of the setting that can be observed and used for perks, such as common reoccuring situations, skills or themes?
If yes, Drop In line figured out. If no, see 3.
3.) People like making stuff. Is there an item/resource/invention/cool thing that people would like more of or make?
If yes, Drop In line figured out. If no, shit dude I dunno.

>>51758185
I like it so far.
Question though, how much/often do mirror monsters need to eat? Are we talking every once in a while or do they want three square meals of people?

>>51758475
I dont know how I feel about that.

>>51758185
I think having Swing, Spin and Hold Vent are redundant given that you've got a general Melee Vent whose weapon type you can customize. Other than that, looking good so far, will continue reading and report back any other issues or questions.

>>51758519
Well, if you know what body parts to feel it's nearly the same thing.

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>>51758497
If you're talking about Macross, then you will get no apologies from me, and will fully expect context behind the situation.

>>51758508
Just fighting every Monster of the Week you come across should do the trick, unless you go overboard with Contracts like Asakura or have a particularly hungry Monster.
>>51758534
Had to include all the canon Vents for completion's sake, and Melee Vent is an OC for those who want variety in their weapons. You're probably correct, though.

>>51758508
Every once in a while, from what I remember. Just fighting the monsters of the week was enough to keep Dragredder and Darkwing fed.

>>51758386
I tend to use Drop-in as a place to put perks that represent how jumpers relate to the themes of the setting.

>Worm: Able to avoid precog, well-adjusted and awesome communication skills, able to blend in and integrate themselves into almost any group, able to munchkin the abilties they have. Compare to the typical problems of parahumans and Earth Bet's entire setup.

>Evo: Plays around with the mechanics of evolution, treating it more like a game instead of playing into a paradigm. Able to evolve to mimic the kinds of things they encounter.

>Sherlock: Feels familiar with and fits in anywhere, able to talk their way out of anything, and can cheat by getting flashes of knowledge instead of having to put thing together.

>S&S: A wanderer who learns and grows as he encounters new peoples and grand challenges and locales, pushing himself from something humble into something worthy of legend through the adventures he encounters. Literally just being a Jumper in microcosm.

I use Drop-in as an option for people who want to be an outsider with a unique perspective and ability to interact with the world. Playing off of them not having a place in it to give neat toolkits and be a sort of foil to how things are.

I think it works out pretty well since it means that even as a first jump you get the sense that they're a stranger in a strange land but have the ability to still interact with things and be involved in the stories that are going on.

That's just my two cents though.

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Behold, foolish anons! The intro to Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne! Alright, so, couple of things I want to make note of.

This jump will go by the original story behind Nocturne. That is, that YHVH is the Great Will, not an avatar of it. My feelings about Apocalypse aside, it was made very clear that the Great Will was behind the Conception in Nocturne, and that its' intentions were not pure. I will be including an 0cp drawback to go with the new canon, but I'm going to be writing the jump from that perspective.

Secondly, I'm still trying to figure out what to do with origins. Here are my current thoughts on that:
>Backgrounds based on the Reasons, with Freedom serving as the Drop In equivalent. Demifiend is a 600-800cp general perk
>Backgrounds based on the characters, including one for the Demifiend. Drop-In based off of Hijiri/Aleph? Not sure how to do this
>Mix of the two previous options

Finally, sorry for the really long intro/info dump, I just wanted to get as much info across as possible. Lot of important stuff that needs to be addressed.

Aside from all that, comments, advice, and critique is appreciated. Welcome to the Vortex World, everybody!

>>51758649
>Demifiend is being offered
...really?

>>51758649
Isn't Demifiend one of the most powerful things in all of SMT?

>>51758649

my vote goes to Reason based backgrounds

>>51758723
>>51758704
Considering that Nocturne!YHVH is one of the most powerful final bosses in all videogames and that everything scaled with him... Even if it costs you 800 CP it's not that far fetched

>powerlevels

>>51758185
>"A strange man who was passing through gave us such a way"
Well, now I think I'm all but obligated to introduce myself as "just a passing through Kamen Rider" whenever I fight someone in this jump. Thanks, Tsukasa. As one dimension-hopper to another, I appreciate the help.

>>51758723
>>51758704
He definitely is.
Dude can curbstomp stuff that collapses multiverses just by dying.

>>51758649
Have to admit, kinda questioning why this isn't an endjump if you're offering straight up demi fiend, even with dragon ball stuff recently. Isn't this the place where the final boss or mid boss or something is wiping out millions of universe?

>>51758649
Eh it fine, YHVH is part of the Great Will after all. Could always be he was simply the dominant personality, and getting his ass kicked in 2, Demi beating up Kagutsuchi in Nocturne and finally getting gangbanged by the mother goddesses in Strange Journey just caused a schism between them. And the Great Will/Axiom is simply so powerful it can just retroactively empower people if it has an argument with YHVH.

>>51758649
Unless the two cross over so much the perk lines start mixing together... why not both? One choice for your reason, one choice for your "regular" background.

>>51758649
Wait, how powerful are you going to be able to get in this jump?

>>51758779
Why should we restrict things?

If you make an End Jump people will simply not take it.

>>51758777
>curbstomp

To be fair, in all but one route Kagutsuchi is holding back to test him. And he IS the final boss. Even with maxed out stats, it's nowhere near a curbstomp.

>>51758815
He goes on to fight and win against Metatron and fucking Lucifer. Kagutsuchi is kind of terrible compared to those two.

>>51758814
Except that's blatantly not true, as we had an example of someone going to an End Jump earlier in this thread or last thread.

>>51758704
>>51758723
He's actually not as powerful as he's made out to be. First of all, the destruction of the multiverse thing is apparently just hype. What actually happened was that he punched out every version of Kagatsuchi across the multiverse, permanently. Aside from that, Lucifer was holding back in the final fight, as one: he's shown completely unfazed immediately afterwards, and two: his true form is a fusion of all his forms, according to Word of God. Aside from this, he did none of this by himself. He had a full team of demons assisting him. I actually bought a little too much into the hype myself, going to have to change the DDS part 1 800cp description.

>>51758779
It's a little more complicated then that. The Conception is a process that happens when a universe runs out of energy, and needs to be replaced. True, he does destroy those universes, but most of them were already on their last legs anyway. Besides, it's only the very final boss that does this, and he's holding back in all but the True Demon Route, where the Demi-Fiend is directly empowered by Lucifer.

>>51758782
Sounds about right, really. SMT's timeline and multiverse is so bonked it's not even funny.

>>51758777
Um, no, he can't? In fact, anyone who's played Nocturne will tell you that one: he fights those guys with other demons backing him up and two: those battles are hard as shit and usually it's you that ends up getting curbstomped.

>>51758797
Hmm, that could be a good idea.

>>51758798
Unless you take the True Demon endjump route, probably about as strong as any other SMT jump would make you?

>>51758519
>>51758475
Venusmon's personality is actually completely opposite of Venus. That is, she's kind, sweet, gentle, a friend to nature, humans, and digimon, and believes in protecting the weak from evil.

A porn stash would probably get you Mervamon.

>>51758906
So topping out at around city level or something?

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>>51753072
ATTENTION LOVELY PEOPLE!

This is your Captain Speaking!

Just letting you know as of this moment the drive is dead, gone, destroyed, taken by alien invaded to fight in gladiatorial combat then die.

BUT FEAR NOT!

For it has been replaced to help fix the issue that many people have come across with the whole link to the lewd folder issue. I ran across a few bugs at first but I went through every single folder and made sure all the Jumps are accessible. It took awhile.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDSmZpRWdZaGZRcWs?tid=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&authuser=0

THE OLD DRIVE IS DEAD! LONG LIVE THE DRIVE!

>>51758954
Noice, let's put it in the next OP

>>51758906
will the endjump route work like the one in DS2 where we can take it but dont have to spark right now if we dont want to?

>>51758954
Did you remember to delete SoAnon's jumps?

>>51758954
WE ARE ENTERING A NEW AGE!

LONG LIVE JUMP-CHAN!

>>51758954
Neat.
Hate to bug ya, but since you're here, how's that Ork jump going?

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>>51758954
Cool
and thank you for taking the fix and issue I had no idea existed.

>>51758832
Them's BONUS BOSSES though, that's hardly fair. 'Sides, Metatron jobs harder than Lancer.

How're they way above Kagutsuchi anyway? Stronger I get, but not massively so unless I missed something. He canonically loses to Luci too at least in the pre-Nanashi timeline, and Luci was definitely just testing him.

>>51758906
Yeah, I just see "multiverse" and "cosmic being" and figured something was up.

I mean, Stephen apparently figured out how to do it eventually. And IIRC Stephen actually isn't the first human to; his helper in the DLC mentions he's basically become something like. Buddha right?

Probably still the strongest among 'em though. Don't know many Buddhas that shoot black holes at people while holding back.

>>51758954
Jump Chain: Back 2 tha Hood

>>51758185
Looks good Heavens.
What would that Dragon Knight Ending entail and be?

>>51758914
>Mervamon
>Minerva
>Virgin goddess

That... actually makes sense.

>>51759004
Do you ever get tired of asking for things that will never happen?

>>51758906
Uh what? I thought that the power level jumped up massively at Nocturne, and was escalating even back in SMT 2? That's literally how you and possibly SMTAnon have explained it in the past.

>>51759057
Just kind of a gag where your derailment fucked up Shiro's Time Vent and you're stuck in Dragon Knight for one year.

>>51759043
>Them's BONUS BOSSES though, that's hardly fair. 'Sides, Metatron jobs harder than Lancer.
That's fair. Metatron just can't win.

>>51759066
You're not Brutus.

>>51758939
Somewhere around that, yeah. SMT power levels are kind of bullshit, in that you could kill angels and gods and survive what in-universe is played up as being worse then nukes and then get killed by a rock slide.

>>51759001
I'm debating that. On the one hand, the True Demon ending leads directly to the war with YHVH after Kagatsuchi is killed and Lucifer is impressed, so I'm leaning towards "This is where it ends, right here, right now", but I'm still thinking on it.

>>51758954
LONG LIVE THE DRIVE! LONG LIVE THE CHAIN!

>>51759043
Something like that, I believe.

>>51759075
It did, but it's not all it's hyped up to be. It's like this: SMT 1 and 2 were your typical fantasy/sci-fi game levels of power, and then Nocturne got way more bullshit, but not quite as bullshit as people always talk about. And I admitted that I bought a lot more into the hype then I should have, but doing more research has made me back off a bit on that.

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>>51757057
>>51757205
Holy... shit. And I thought my idea for the Ar Tonelico tower was wild. This idea both terrifies and impresses me. Well done.

>>51758386
Honestly, it depends on the Jump. Sometimes it's obvious, like with FLCL I based the Drop-In perks off of Haruko. Or with the Fifth Element being based off Leeloo. A character that acts so completely outside the bounds of the show/game/story that it practically screams Jumper.

Sometimes it's a little bit harder. With Ring of Red I based all the Drop-In perks on fitting in, which probably wasn't the best way to handle it but it felt appropriate at the time. When I did Zootopia, it kind of ended up as a grab bag of ideas.

Long story short, I try to find something in the IP itself to base Drop-In perks on. If I can't, I'll try to go with slightly meta perks based on the IP. Sometimes it doesn't work out. It's not always an easy perk tree to fill.

>>51758954
Oh Captain, my Captain! Praise be to da Orkiest of dem all!

>>51759096
And you never achieve anything meaningful. Your point?

>>51758954
The Drive is dead! Long live the Drive!

Are there any perks that make you immune to stress?

>>51758954
>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDSmZpRWdZaGZRcWs?tid=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&authuser=0
Why did we need a new Drive?

>>51759088
Okay, I've read through the whole thing now, and I have to say that I really like this. It gives you a mechanical framework for experiencing the plot of the series, but has built-in flexibility to account for a Jumper going off the rails. This is what all scenario-type jumps should be. The fact that "make Kanzaki realize he's become a supervillain, convince him to atone for his sins" is a viable ending path just makes it all the sweeter.

>>51759206
He explains it in the post. Read.

>>51758954
Oh, Brutus, before I forget, is it possible for the two Digital Devil Saga parts to get a folder like Light of Terra or something? They're supposed to be one, multi-part jump, so I thought it might be best to have them in a folder like that. It's no big deal if they're not, though, just thought that it might be a good idea. Thanks for all of the things you do to make the Drive work.

>>51759088
>Get Survive
>Get Strange Vent
>Fight Odin
>Copy Time Vent
>Use Time Vent immediately.
>Realize you never knew how to use it in the fist place.
>Dragon Knight

Would this work?

>>51759261
Are you flippin burgers

>>51759176
There's a perk in Tomb Raider that makes you virtually immune to PTSD, I think.
And I'm sure there's some 'keep your cool' perks somewhere around here…
But what ya really need is WILLPOWER PERKS!
BEHOLD, THE UPDATED LIST
I don't actually remember what I updated, all I know is I added some stuff a while back.
http://pastebin.com/xi6exJWg

>>51759261
That plans sounds like a million bucks to me.

>>51758906
>Unless you take the True Demon endjump route, probably about as strong as any other SMT jump would make you?

Can you just do it like you did in DS2 and locked it until you get a spark?

>>51758994
>>51759016
>>51759038
>>51759140
>>51759154
>>51759174
Truly a new golden age indeed!

>>51759030
I'm working on them here and there when I can. Doing a lot of House remodeling and the like along with my Sister's family and mine being sick have slowed down progress. Unless something happens to looks like SWTOR will be coming out before Ork jump does, but I can't give an exact date/deadline for either jumps. They will be coming out this year even if it kill me!

>>51759004
>>51759066
>>51759096
The only thing i'll say on this subject and never speak on it ever again is that after much deliberation is No. There are instances where a jump maker has come to ask where a jump be put into WIP as they wish to redo/overhaul a jump as was the case for the Arpeggio Of Blue Steel. Otherwise once a jump has been completed and been placed on the drive it is there to stay unless there are unique circumstances (such as the case with Hellblazer which given up to if anyone wanted to make a replacement jump they could because of the level of quality).

So to sum that all up. Unless it has a unique circumstance then No.

>>51759239
Sure thing! I had seen your request before but it kinda got thrown around in my head while I was fixing the new drive for launch and....IT IS DONE!

>>51757489
What would having "Self" as origin do?

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>>51759364
Dammit fingers! Hit enter before I could attach the picture

>>51759322
See here >>51759140. The war starts immediately afterwards, so I'm leaning towards just ending it there. I'll try to think of something, but unlike DS2, here you're just getting a straight up power boost and becoming a true demon. I'll work on it.

>>51759364
Many thanks, Brutus. You're the man.

>>51759388
I feel your pain, Captain.

>>51758954
>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDSmZpRWdZaGZRcWs?tid=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&authuser=0
Nothing seems to be in the "Everyone Else's Jumps" folder

>>51759399
You're glitching, then, I can see it fine.

>>51759411
I'm not seeing anything in 2. complete without images myself so it's not just him.

>>51759438
Give it a bit. It's probably just propagating to your system. It'll finish updating in a few minutes, depending on your connection speed.

>>51759140
Does that mean someone as strong as Cell could easily kill or incapacitate the Demi-Fiend?

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>>51759154
It actually amazes me that no one even thought of it.

I mean, like some time ago Ar Tonelico towers used to be one of the End-All-Be-All solutions. Just throw a tower there and network your shit, yadda yadda. It was one of the ONLY reasons people went there aside from the Orgel, to get the Tower, and every Tower updates to modifications. So every fucking tower dropped becomes a demonic server.

It is a giant fucking processing unit and it baffles me that no one thought "Hey let's stuff a COMP into it". Use the Orb from Swat Kats and make it able to assimilate technology, then use the Forge from Soul Hackers or stuff demons into technology with Warlock from Dota2 to keep feeding it demonic items and beef up the infernal might. Hell, you could probably use that to turn the Reyvateils into demonic variants. Don't think that would work? Capstone boosted 'Rise of Lazarus' from Doom 2016. Instant loyal demons. Hell, why stop there? Gouma-Den to summon, mish, and mash various demons to create new variants! The Tower would bloody well keep updates on them and its Cosmosphere crap would do wonders. I could go on and on.

Then use Warehouse Aesthetic perks to turn the tower into a giant, infernal Dark Tower just for the cherry on top.

>>51758954
Will the old drive update when this one does? Because I already managed to fix the lewd folder issue on my own personal drive, and made bookmarks of all the pages so I could open them more quickly. Will I have to make a whole new set of links?

>>51759501
Maybe? I mean, again, SMT power levels are bullshit, it's kind of hard to compare them to other settings when it's not even consistent in-universe. And Dragon Ball Z also suffers from Bullshit Power Levels-itus, so that's even more confusing.

>>51759597
Well, Cell is at least planet busting and from what you said the Demifiend is only city level, so it stands to reason Cell should easily beat him. Unless you're not giving us all the info and the demifiend is actually way stronger?

>>51759140
You could probably leave True Demon as a drawback or scenario since the power you can get from it doesn't seem anywhere close to endjump material.

>>51759613
Don't SMT-characters rely more on hax than things like energy output and speed like DBZ characters do?