Warhammer 40,000 General/40kg/

Well now that the true eldar have been defiled by association with the craftworlders what new army should I start?

1st for the best legion
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thud fo da oaks

So how bad would a footslogging tyranid army be? walking tyrant and hundreds of gaunts. I don't need to win tournaments but I don't want to play as an NPC race.

>>51752239
If you were to hypothetically play against an opponent who asks if he can use a fluffy, painted up set of units that aren't technically in the codex but aren't cheesy at all and are reasonably lore friendly and don't form some super-combo, would you accept that?
For a casual game.

>>51752212
>Why take them for the missiles when you can just give your troops turrets for dirt cheap? 20 points worth of turrets give the same firepower as a broadside and you can't even target turrets.
High-Yield Missile Pods have four shots vs the DS8's two shots, so you'd need three of them to match it.
Those 30 points need to be spread out across three different Strike Teams, so you're looking more at 165 points to match a single 65 point unit.
XV88s can also be upgraded with EOW, Velocity Tracker, Precision Shots, or BS2 Overwatch.
You also get to take exclusive 12-point Missile Drones.
And while it's irrelevant, Broadsides come in a number of good formations, including the Retaliation Cadre.

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>mfw my local meta is mostly MEQ and one tournament-going dark eldar/harlequins player

>>51752284
Why not?

>>51752284
If it's not cheesy then sure. If it's a case of "My special snowflake space marine chapter lends their drop pods to this wraithhost" then he can play it as unbound.

>>51752300
Don't tell anyone but Deldar eat MEQ for breakfast. Seriously it's like almost everything in the deldar army (poison, dis cannons, incubi, rending reavers) becomes more points efficient when pitted against MEQ.

>>51752281
It's incredibly boring to play against, and the movement phase can take the better part of an hour.

>>51752329
Hmm, never considered that. Just pictured it being cool but I can see that really detracting from it.

>>51752321
I was mostly lamenting that my IG and SM and SoB only have other imperial armies or CSM to play against. I played one game against his DE and it was horrifying.
Actually I should have my own 1000 point DE army hidden away somewhere...
>>51752329
Not if you get tabled on turn 1!

>>51752337
It certainly looks cool and it was fun to play against a large horde the first few times, but it gets stale really quick.

If anything, I found Guardsman horde to be the least boring to play against compared to nids and orkz

>>51752337
Also a shitload of thin coats to make.

>>51752239
nth for pdfs
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Repostan

What do you think about my Semi-casual Ultramarines list?
Tacticals combat squad, Lascannons camp backfield objectives, rhinos advance. Captain goes with the tactical squad with the power weapon sergeant. Flyers arent really an issue in my meta.

1250/1250 points

Combined Arms Detachment

Captain (1) - Artificer armor,Plasma pistol,Power weapon,Melta bombs - 145pts

Tactical Squad (10) - Power weapon,Melta bombs; Flamer,Lascannon - 195pts
Rhino (1) - Dozer Blade - 40pts

Tactical Squad (10) - Melta bombs; Meltagun,Lascannon - 185pts
Rhino (1) - Dozer blade - 40pts

Dreadnought (1) - Multi-melta,Power fist with stormbolter - 100pts
Drop pod (1) - 35pts

Skyhammer Annihilation Force

Devastator Squad (5) - 2 Heavy Bolters - 90pts
Drop pod (1) - 35pts

Devastator Squad (5) - Combi-melta; 2 Multi-meltas - 100pts
Drop pod (1) - 35pts

Assault Squad (5) - Jump packs; Lightning claw,Melta Bombs; 2 Flamers - 125pts

Assault Squad (5) - Jump packs; Power Sword,Melta Bombs; 2 Flamers - 125pts

>>51752385
Love you, anon.

>>51752281
>So how bad would a footslogging tyranid army be?

Ork-tier. Hormagaunts are awful, Termagants can't get down the board fast enough, and there are so many weapons that chew through big blobs of infantry these days that your hordes will evaporate in a few turns. I've tried it myself and it just doesn't work.

>>51752260
Adeptus Mechanics. Can't go wrong.

>>51752447
Omnissiah bless you, child

>>51752281
It's good. But you won't win any games....ever.

>tfw none of the armies you want to play fluffwise can do the army you want crunchwise

>>51752396
Dev squads should be maxed out on heavy weapons otherwise there's little point ot them. Take the lascannons away from the tacticals to tool up your dev squads more to let them do the majortiy of the anti vehicle work. Also Rhino''s are ten man transports or am I getting that wrong? Your captain won't fit in the rhino with another ten guys is what I'm saying.

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>>51752300
I thought that was pretty standard in most places.

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Quick question

The otherday I saw someone mention that a "SKULLthrister" was the superior Bloodthrister build.

As a newly started Khorne player I'm curious as to what the actully means in terms of build and such, anyone know?

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>>51752321
You need to try harder.

>>51752489
the default gun on one of our main transports fucks marine armor like nobody's business, the gun on our other transports ignores their precious T4 (as does our basic infantry weapon). Our only real melee unit (wyches are trash) come equipped with AP2 S4 weapons and 1 higher initiative than MEQs. Reavers have rending HoW just because. All of these things make them far more cost effective against MEQ than say GEQ or other eldar.

I'm sorry have you just never actually seen Dark Eldar on the tabletop? Because that's what it sounds like. Sounds like you just fell for the /tg/ memes. Yeah Dark Eldar are actually good at something, get over it marine fag.

>>51748360
Would opt for the Grand Company, the bonuses to your units are a bit better. The fortifications you can take reward Chaos Warbands since you can have ObSec troops manning the guns or bring your own heavy equipment in the form of TankHunter Auotcannons.

You could still take your Murderpack and a small Cult of Destruction. Maybe even fit Lost and the Damned if you go cheap on the Warband.

The other anon is right in that you should be packing some Havocs for that juicy Tank Hunters. Oblits are pretty decent for being a wrench thrown into your opponent's machine.

As with all things they are susceptible to scatbikes and their I'll.

>>51752489
Few other armies can dish out the firepower that DE can point for point, and MEQs get chewed up under massed poison or blasters.

Newfriend here, in the process of starting a CSM army and was wondering if there are any units that are must-includes in most cases.

>>51752553

Depends if you have a theme in mind.

>>51752553
Nothing in particular comes to mind if you're talking about Vanilla CSM.

If you plan on using the rules from Traitor Legions, then the Cult Troops like Noise Marines, are pretty much a must get for Emperor's Children along with Rhinos to ferry them.

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>>51752553
Run whatever you like. It's your army.

Cultists are good.
Obliterators are good.
Helldrakes are good.
Daemon princes are good.

There are a few decent formations too, if that's your thing.

Have fun, man.

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Are space marine players sentient? Or do they just act on pure reflex?

>>51752606
Aren't those Storm Bolter more expensive than what ever might be inside those containers?

>>51752606
why have those shipping containers got guns on them

>>51752613
>what ever might be inside those containers
More storm bolters?

is there anywhere i can go to catch up with the newest fluff? been hella busy lately so unable to be a cool kid and get down with the latest lore.

>>51752621
Those aren't shipping containers, anon.

They're the magazines for those guns.

It's filled with ammo.

>>51752629
>belt fed bolter with a shipping container sized ammo box.

So what's the point of taking a transport like a razorback that has a gun, when moving makes the gun basically useless?

God, I hate how useless marines are without transports.

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>>51752606
>implying that the look and story of your plastic army men somehow makes you different to anyone else.

This is good. I want to see how this develops.

>>51752639
You can still fire the one gun at full BS.

>>51752639
There is no point. Which is why they introduced these stationary ammo-can guns! >>51752606
>>51752621
>>51752625
>>51752629

>>51752637

>Orks see this and stick wheels onto a shipping container
>This allows them to fire weapons for hours at a time
>Meks who came up with this praised as visionaries

>>51752639
Read the vehicle shooting rules and then understand what an idiot you are.

>>51752639
If this is the only problem your army has, you should be fucking thankful.

You know, I've just realized every traditional marine unit is garbage.

>Regular Terminators
>Tactical squads
>Gun/fist dreadnoughts
>Captains
>Land Raiders

All of them are, at best, a formation tax.

>>51752666
Good one, satan.

>>51752639

>My army has some of the best transports in the game
>I hate that my army uses transports!

Boo fucking hoo. At least the guys in your transports don't try to kill one another when their transports explode.

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>>51752639
I'm going to take it guys.

Anon. Read the fucking rules for fuck sake.

>>51752666
How are you so fucking ignorant? All these units (with the possible exception of LRs) are well balanced, but let me guess, you're the kind of guy who allies Skyhammer forces with riptide wings right? So you have no idea of what a normal unit looks like.

>>51752673

Go ahead, tell me which of those are a must-take outside of "Shit, I can't run <x formation> without it.

>Regular Terminators
Why not run assault terminators?

>Tactical Squads
Only taken because they're literally necessary for a legal army

>Gun/fist dreadnoughts
Why not take a rifleman dread?

>Captain
Why not take a librarian?

>Land Raider
Why not take a Stormraven?

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>>51752666
Mfw all i want to do is play with basic army dudes and not some fucking giant robots and super heroes.

>>51752693
Then play Bolt Action or something?

>>51752693
So then play IG and not SM. SM are literally fucking superheroes.

>>51752701
>bolt action has space marines and tyranids

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>>51752666
Those trips, though.

Anon. Space marines have so much cool shit. Why focus on the few things that are bad?

>>51752689
Well, basically my response to all of those is "because I'm not a flaming faggot"

>>51752666
You forgot Predators.

>>51752708

Because all of those units are the ones considered iconic! They're the units that marines should be built on as a steady foundation.

>>51752718

Yup, I did. Predators are on that pile too.

>>51752702
Maybe in the lore. Their rules are pretty grounded.

>>51752717
You do make a convincing argument.

>>51752718
What else would you take but Predators, Vindicators and Devastators?

>>51752732
>Smashfucker deathstar marines
>grounded

>>51752732
4 stats on everything but wounds is very above average.

But since 2/3 of GW/FW products for 40k and 30k are marines they look mediocre

>>51752742
>a chapter master is a regular marine.

>>51752689
>Shifting the goal posts
You said they were garbage, not that they simply weren't must takes, you tremendous faggots. The two are very different things,

>>51752719
And there's nothing wrong with you making an army with all of those units. You'll only consistently lose to Tau cheese and other WAAC fags.

>>51752742
Don't start this shit again.

Nobody plays Iron Hands so Smashfucker isn't an issue.

>>51752733
Thanks, I like to think I'm pretty good at debating.

>>51752736
Didn't say I wouldn't take them. I just said they aren't good.

>>51752748

If there is an objectively better unit that does everything the original unit does but better, the original option is garbage. It's called strategic dominance, faggot.

>>51752747
>>51752754

>Chapter masters don't follow the rules so it means the rules are still grounded

Chapter masters are part of the space marines and still follow the rules. They're not grounded.

>>51752758
Only if you're a waac fag. Which you apparently are. So you're not even worth talking to. I mean seriously what kind of person plays 40k competitively, that's the dumbest god damned thing I've ever heard of.

All those units are balanced and fun in casual play, while not being weak enough to make the game boringly one sided.

So take your cheese and blow it out your ass you b8ing waac faggot.

>>51752767
I'm complaining about power and scale creep.
It annoys me the most because the game has shifted toward big knight tier units and special characters.

>>51752767
No
Stop
Don't do this again. I want ONE nice thread dammit.
This is almost as bad as tau baiting.

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So what we already know about 8th Edition?

>>51752773
>I mean seriously what kind of person plays 40k competitively

To be fair, those are the only people still playing 40K.

>Yeah so I spent a few thousand dollars on this game and I decided to just pick stuff I thought looked cool instead of everyone else who picked stuff that wins consistently
>But it's cool, it's cool
>I love getting blown the fuck out every single game I play
>Yeah it cost me a lot of time and money but playing to win is a joke
>Hahaha I love losing really it's cool

>>51752785
It'll be streamlines, about half way to AoS.

That's about it.

>>51752785

It will be the 8th edition of Warhammer 40k, a popular tabletop wargame from English company Games Workshop.

>>51752776
just don't use special characters and don't consider them a part of the game, they're optional like Forge World stuff etc.
I don't personally have a problem with super heavy units in my games, I've always wanted to see a baneblade fielded.

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>>51752666

This is literally my 1k list using the Imperial Fists chapter tactics.

Yes, it's not a particularly great army. But it uses basically all of the units you named, and does alright for what it is.

The only thing stopping you from taking whatever you want is your meta.

Transcend your meta, anon. At the heart of every 40k player is a straight-up fluff-fag. There has to be, because they wouldn't have stuck with 40k if there wasn't.

>>51752799
unf
just use that 5 points on some upgrade though

When shooting with a unit containing models with Split Fire, do you have to declare all targets before shooting? Or can you resolve one model's shooting before picking the next model's target?

>>51752791
>To be fair, those are the only people still playing 40K.

Except they're not? There's plenty of people who play casually. Just because you're not being a WAACfag doesn't mean you can't build an effective list. Maybe not a super efficient list but to imply that everyone that plays still is just a WAACfag who builds super strong lists is just bullshit.

>>51752785
We -know- little.
There will be a new status quo in fluff from which the story will go forward.
The rules will be streamlined but not that hard like AoS.

I guess that's all.

>>51752804
>The sisters will need to cover up
they already do.

>>51752799
>At the heart of every 40k player is a straight-up fluff-fag. There has to be, because they wouldn't have stuck with 40k if there wasn't.

I wish this were true. I know way too many guys that don't know ANYTHING about the lore at all but still play 40K because of the money investment. They can't back out now or it'll be a waste. Buyer's remorse etc.

(They're all SM or CSM to be fair)

>>51752807

Sure, just put meltabombs on the captain or something.

>>51752799
That list makes me feel like I'm back in 4th Edition.

It's a good feeling.

>>51752239
Who is your favorite species/faction?
>You can list multiple
Mine has to be the Tau, Kroot, Vespid. Tzeentchi Chaos forces, IG, and Salamanders.

>>51752804
like nuns?!

>>51752804
Fuck off, Anon.

>>51752791
>Playing to win is a joke
Correct, playing to have fun is the most important thing, you know, fun? That thing you used to be capable of experiencing before visiting /tg/? I'm sorry but if you can't have fun doing this then why are you doing it? To prove you're plastic guys are better than your opponents plastic guys? To prove that you're the best at rolling dice? Seriously look at your life. It's a game, games are meant for fun, and a balanced game will always be more fun than a one sided roflstomp, no matter which side of that equation you are on. If you no longer enjoy 40k then don't keep playing just to prove you're better at it as some form of validation, find a new hobby that you CAN enjoy again.

>>51752818
You having a shitty local meta doesn't really mean it's not true for large numbers of people in the hobby.

>>51752830
Bin that knife, kuffir.

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>>51752823
>Vespid

My Por'la.

Khorne: Islam
Nurgle: Buddhism
Slaanesh: Satanism
Tzeentch: Judaism
Imperial Cult: Christianity

>>51752832
I don't know about you, but winning is fun to me. I derive fun from beating my opponent through tactics and decision. I enjoy that.

In order for something to be a game, it has to have a winner and a loser. I'm sick of you "funfags" pretending like WINNING isn't fun.

Losing, losing is not fun. Maybe if you're an ork player and you lost from something silly like shooting your own guys or blowing up. Yeah, that's fun.

Fielding an unwieldly pile of jank that gets tabled on turn one? That's not fun.

>>51752855
>Fielding an unwieldly pile of jank that gets tabled on turn one? That's not fun.
You're right, but if you build an army like this >>51752799 you're not going to get tabled on turn one, except if you exclusively play against asshats who break the game on purpose.

>>51752804
Hi Anon, what's up in Poland? Still oppressing Silesians?

>>51752855
Nobody said winning isn't fun but losing can be fun because playing is fun when both players aren't being huge WAACfags.

>>51752849
>what was the 5th world religion?
>ah, right, satanism

>>51752385
Still no gathering storm 2 :(

>>51752855
I never said that I like to lose every game. But I don't like one sided matches, I like close games where either side has the potential to win, in those situations, I don't care if I win or lose, because it's the game that's the fun part, not the ultimate result. All you want to do is win win win, you're the kind of guy who will quit at the bottom of turn two because your opponent is up by one VP am I right? You just want to have the strongest army and to constantly win with no opposition like you were using cheat codes, what's the fucking point in that?

This is why people hate WAAC fags like you, because you're no fun to play, you will put your unpainted models down and rules lawyer the game away until you get what you want, and yes, every COMPETITIVE player is a WAAC fag by definition. I've had opponents who came at me with weak armies and so I purposely gimped myself by lowering my list by a couple hundred points because I want a fun game, not a guaranteed victory.

But you'll never understand having an actual challenging game will you?

>>51752822

Why can't we go back there, anon?

When men were men, black templars retreated TOWARD the opponent and the closest space marines got to a flyer was a fucking Land Speeder.

>>51752828
I know this is literally something people use to argue in the favor of hijabs.
The difference is that you will never be pressured to wear a habit unless you CHOOSE to be a nun and you can leave at any time.

>>51752754
I have a smashfucker in my meta

Plague zombies love him

>>51752904
>because you're no fun to play, you will put your unpainted models down and rules lawyer the game away until you get what you want, and yes, every COMPETITIVE player is a WAAC fag by definition

This makes no fucking sense.

Unpainted models aren't allowed in competitive play. And competitive players like to COMPETE, which means playing against OTHER competitive players. I don't think you've ever met a WAAC player in your entire life.

I fucking love to play for fun, and am not a competitive player. I play Orks (not bikes) for fuck's sakes, but even I can see what you're saying is total fucking bullshit.

But no, you're right, competitive players are all fags with unpainted models. I saw SO many unpainted armies competing at LVO.

>>51752804
Fuck off back to /poll cunt

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Was reading my old Ork codex today and found this line.

Fuck you Games Workshop, and fuck you Reecius.

>>51752919
I was obviously being hyperbolic for effect but I see that's sailed way over your head.

And it's funny how everyone WITHOUT FAIL sorry, I mean ALMOST without fail, since I know you have trouble with exaggerations who gets accused of being a WAAC fag turns out to be an ork or csm player.

Real funny that.

>>51752911
I'm also not pressured to wear a hijab.

>>51752927
It'll just take as many turns as you have models :)

>>51752946
Yet.

>>51752945
I'm the competitive player >>51752855
and I play Eldar. I'm not sure why you think that guy playing Orks calling you out to be a fag *must* be the same person that disagreed with you, but whatever.

>>51752855
You should consider a game that allows you to win 100% of the time, like Solitaire.

>>51752855
>I derive fun from beating my opponent through tactics and decision. I enjoy that.

Man are you playing the wrong game.

>>51752975
>having an anonymous conversation
>someone comes into the conversation without making any indication that he's someone different
Gee I could not fucking tell you off the top of my head you moron.

>>51752994
>first person you're talking to is very clearly a competitive player and plays to win
>someone else replies to you stating that they play for fun and are not competitive

Yeah, not sure how you'd mix them up.

>>51753045
Because

And I will say this very slowly so you understand it this time

WAAC fags almost ALWAYS say anything to shrug off the accusations of being a WAAC fag.

Thus a sudden change in behaviour is EXACTLY what I was expecting.

Also I noticed you've completely stopped talking about your original point, possibly because it had no merit.

Since Robot Girlyman is back in the game, is 40K going to get End of Times'd and have an AoS-revision like fantasy?

>>51753065
no

people, people! why can't we just... love each other?

>>51753065
No.

>>51753065
No one knows, it'll probably be streamlined but it's unlikely to be a major re-work

>>51753064
I'm not trying to deflect it. I'm a competitive player. Although I consider it WWTR (win within the rules). At all costs implies I'm okay with cheating, which I'm not.

Also, there's nothing wrong with my original point. The point of the game is to win. There's nothing discrediting that I should want to win matches in a game I spent thousands of dollars on.

And Games Workshop clearly thinks the same way, if you look at NOVA, LVO, BOA, etc. Literally all the people high up in the tournaments weigh in on the core rulings for 40K and GW caters to tournament players.

Guys that play for fun aren't running out to buy the newest shit all the time, or the codexes, because they don't care about winning. There's no change in my behavior. You have a persecution complex.

>>51753065
End of time... no
streamlined rules like new AoS general handbook 2 ... Very possibly

>>51753064

>I play Orks and he plays Eldar
>one is WAAC and I play for fun
>apparently he's trying to avoid the damaging internet accusation of being a WAACfag

Dude you need to chill.

>>51753090
> Literally all the people high up in the tournaments weigh in on the core rulings for 40K
Well they all fucked up.

>>51753090
But anon that is wrong.

GW caters to its shareholders

That explains why they are making so many Xbox Huge models

>>51753104
>How dare those people that constantly give GW money hand over fist in stupid volumes weigh in on rules
>GW should listen to someone like ME, who plays maybe once or twice a month and only buys a new figurine once a year, and will pirate their army's codex

Yeah, I'm sure GW is regretting it right now.

>>51753119
You're seriously pulling shit out of your arse now, I was making a joke about some of the stupid rulings that have come out.

Chill out, you can't win an internet argument waacfag.

>>51753107
>implying most of the major tournament organizers aren't GW shareholders in the first place

They have a vested interest, y'know.

I need a good idea for a Ultramarine successor chapter.

Anyone got some inspiration?

>>51753132
>everyone that disagrees with me is a WAACfag

I don't want to sound like a downer, but would ANYONE who gives even the slightest amount of shit about balance have buffed fucking Eldar with the Ynnari?

>>51753144
Everyone who can't take a joke and only cares about winning is indeed a waacfag yes.

>>51752899
https://mega.nz/#!n5x2FTpZ!KGgIGVpfdAf7FZfCi-z6ZwwYWmVENotGUPF_Hm-EhOg

Gathering storm 2 friend.

Can we start a new general?
Only IG players allowed this time. They seem to cause less problems than the rest

>>51753179
as admech player, I resent that

>>51753179
IG players don't exist. They're still all painting their armies

>>51753179
Ork is best

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>Aeldari
ayy lmao

>>51753189
You have the war of free stuff you produce a lot of salt.

Sorry. I would say SoB but people get trigger a lot by them too.

>>51753153
Not played against anyone using the Ynnai rules yet. Is it a massive buff?

Just from looking a the book the mechanics seem cool but I don't actually know how powerful it is.

>>51753202
That's okay, I forgive you. Omnissiah might not, though.

>>51753207

The mechanics aren't the problem. It's being able to mix and match units with no real restriction.

>Archon with WWP in a raider with D-scythe wraithguard

>>51753201
>The next DE codex will be called Codex: Dark Aeldari
Just kidding, DE aren't ever getting a codex

>>51752284
Well first I'd ask him to tell me exactly how it is different from a tournament legal army, if I can tell it's bs from the start it's not happening.

>>51753219
IG is the army that less salt produce.

Also daily shitpost about new Celestine not being a SoB.

Just because there a couple of anon that get trigger hard with that

So how is the reborn warhost looking for an exclusively DE army? I'm going to have to play completely differently since I normally like to fan out my army and get as many early points as I can (in Maelstrom at least)

>>51753223
>not Adarki Aeldari

I had a Tau player bring in a yellow-colored Farsight model into a game. He said it wasn't Farsight but his own Commander with some bullshit name who conveniently used a sword and had the same stats and rules as Farsight.

Obviously this doesn't matter in terms of gameplay since it's just Farsight, but how do you feel about this sort of thing?

Sup /40kg/ haven't been here in a while. What's this shit about Orks getting renamed to 'Orruks'? Is GW seriously that retarded?

>>51752822
I hated 4th ed...but I have played chaos since the dark days of 3rd till now.

>>51752823
Honsu forces and the dude from the night lords book

To all those arguing about WACC vs fun games how about you set up what type of game you after.

>>51753238
Why, you scoundrel!

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>>51753252
>Edgedari

>>51753221
ah right, yeah Wraithguard raider nuff said

>>51753258

It's fine.

>>51753202
But I run a pure Skitarii list.

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>>51753258
Meh.

I use this as psykers so I can't judge much.

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How often do Termies suffer critical teleport failures? It's not like Brother Bobius Jimbo is going to end up teleporting inside of a SoB right?

>>51753276
It'll be split into two codexes

>Kabaleari
>Homonculadeari

>>51753293
>Teleporting inside of a SoB
Is that a slashfic?

>>51753293
Anon getting inside a SoB is not teleporting, it sex or some cultist ritual.

>>51753290
Actually never mind, I generate a truckload of salt from my local Tau player whenever my Vanguards shred his suits.

>>51753309
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait...... people use vanguards?

>>51753309
I get Salt from everyone when my Dominions, Seraphim and old Celestine did anything. Because some how once per game ignore cover, shred and reviving after insta kill is some how broken.

I've got that salt from scatterbike spam, Riptide wing and Wraith spam Necron.

>>51753305
I don't think so. It probably has happened at least once. It had to.
>>51753307
Anon that's lewd.

>>51753330
I assume you laugh at this people's faces?

>>51753258
meh I'm not keen on special characters. In my mind my guys are my guys and special characters are for fluff. From a gameplay perspective it's perfectly fine, like in the last ed Dark angel codex, if you wanted to field a Deathwing army you had to take Belial, so if you played a DA successor chapter and wanted a deathwing list you therefore HAD to field Belial by another name

>>51753329
People don't? As much as I like the Ranger models Vanguards are just all around better. Every Skitarii list I've seen (from people that aren't brand new anyways) that involves Skitarii almost never even uses Rangers.

>>51753343
Oh sorry wasn't paying attention, thought we were talking about SM vanguard veterans

>>51753258
>A 40k autists first encounter with a hobbyist
>Cant figure out if he's having fun wrong
Surprising stuff.

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>>51753336
Yes

>>51753337
Yes, I table the idiot local Necron player on turn 3. I broke my personal record.

After getting failcast Vyridian I got very disappointed about the lack of detail compared to the lewl Russian models

>>51753330
There's always going to be salt from someone. My Wyverns generate a lot of it.

>>51753258
your dudes is what the game's about. I'd be fine with it. Not like there's a no name melee commander that he can use for his character is there?

>>51753258
I'll play with the person fine.

It's cringey as fuck though.

>>51753364
What models are the Titty psykers? i like the kneeling one, not a terrible idea either

>>51753364
>Pants

Fuck off dunecoon. Psislaves deserve no modesty. The witch must be lain bare but for her shackles and the gashes in her skin.

>>51753364
w-why are their tits out?

>tfw trying to make an original space marine colour scheme
>tfw every idea you have is already taken by a canon chapter

>>51753398
Brother Vinni.

My thinking was SoB don't like psykers very much, but Penitent engine like Psyker models could do the trick.

"You don't need your hands to shoot mind bullets!"

>>51753410
Some times I forget people get trigger by tits.

It's ok anon I love you anyway

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>>51753406
>stripping disgusting witches naked for your perverted pleasure like some Slaneeshi lowlife
Maim, slay, dismember and burn witches and degenerates.

Eldar Triumvirate.
Yay or nay?

>>51752719
GW's idea of "a steady foundation" is "a formation tax".

So, what's the best loadout for a Tech-Priest Dominus in a Dominus Maniple? Weapons and energy field

>>51753292
How do you play with those models and not feel intense shame

>>51753193
Can confirm

>>51753444
I like the Horatio model. Mostly because the cat looks cool.

The red dude is baller as fuck. Too bad it is not an Imperium HQ.

>>51753459
By not playing Tau?

>>51753140
Ubermarines with a German flavour.

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>psykers with the Daemon special rule can manifest malefic powers as they would any other psychic power, but they cannot generate Sanctic powers at all.

>The Yncarne generates powers from the Daemonology (Sanctic) and Revenant disciplines.

uhhhh... judge?

>>51753343
i use a 5 model rangers unit with 2 arquebuses. pla is to make another and that's that. vanguards are full unit with 3 plasma calivers (if needed, if not, then barebones). the other one will be full unit with 3 arc rifles (if needed).

>>51753140
Reasonable Marines?
give them fist or raven guard special rules

>>51753535
>Doesn't know the difference between a Daemon and a chaos daemon

Just get out.

>>51753565
Okay, show me in the rulebook where it says only CHAOS daemons follow that rule?

>>51753535
>sister
>taller than the alien
>Aeldari
You had one job.

>>51752281
If you enjoy losing badly, it's basically perfect

>>51753459
No matter the rangers or vanguard he's with, Conversion field. It's 5pts.

Apart from that, weapons to complement - though I prefer the Volkite over the Erad beamer. And the macrostubber generates a lot of hate when suddenly 5 pistol shots!

Apart from that, the Scryerskull Perspicatus can help you fuck vehicles further by scrying a vehicle you've also targeted with the dominus protocol to reroll both to hit and armour penetration.

>>51752822
"Armor saves cannot be taken agains power weapon"
It feels so right, not like this different AP stuff.

>>51753643
Alright, thanks!

>>51752553
Rapier weapons battery.

>>51753585
Advanced rules trump basic rules in the main rulebook, and current codex or supplement rules trump rulebook.

i.e., the Yncarne can use Daemonology (Sanctic)

>>51753654

I really hope 8th brings back universal AP2 power weapons. And ditches different power weapon shapes having different APs and Strengths. Just flat User S and ignoring armour saves makes them so much more flexible.

>>51753663
But will peril on any doubles right?

>>51753547
Personally I just run a full unit with plasma on my warlord because of preferred enemy, beyond that they're a minimum squad either naked or with arc rifles. I find that they die too quickly in large units so splitting them keeps more alive by making the other person waste wounds on overkill.

>>51753680
Absolutely, you'd need a rule like the Grey Knight's "Purity of Spirit" to not suffer Perils on any double.

>>51753704
neato burrito

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What makes the World Eaters legion so Russian?

>>51753693
>full plasma unit with warlord
yeah that's the idea, preferred enemy comes great

I'll think about making other units smaller, I haven't 100% decided yet. Iguess the problem then is making models (omnispex, alphas) with what I got now. But I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
Now I'm working on a onager, and after that probably a unit of kataphrons.

>>51753654
Power weapon AP should be a combination of model strength combined with their weapon skill vs enemy armour type.

This means that you need to put a lot of grunt into a swing to get the weapon to actually reach soft flesh.

>>51753772

WS especially.

A Dark Eldar succubus will be able to easily find all the joints on a suit of power armour and hit them perfectly. A Chaos Lord of Khorne should just be able to swing hard enough to break any armour he hits.

Mark my words, lads.

8th Edition will make Predators great again.

>>51753432
Not that anon, tits don't trigger me, tits bared out of the blue for the sake of baring tits annoy me, though.

Play Kingdom Death if you want pinup and monster rape porn. Fuck, use Kingdom Death miniatures, they're slutty but at least it's not "WOOOO LOOKIE HERE TITS!".

Besides, they're unpainted. You're automatically a faggot.

>>51753815
Just got them yesterday and KD miniaturas are way bigger than 40k.

Anon you got trigger by the way. I still love you thou.

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>>51753827
>Just got them yesterday and KD miniaturas are way bigger than 40k.
Give them a decent base and it's not a bother, my group uses them and they fit in quite nicely.

>Anon you got trigger by the way. I still love you thou.
Yeah, sure, it's everyone else that's a prude and gets triggered, nothing about you is possibly wrong. You're like that guy in our club that has literally anime porn as his background picture and casually leaves it on the table for everyone to see. Of course nobody likes him because we're all prude assholes and don't understand his superior taste.

Here's your (You) by the way.

>>51752693
be in chile, nobody plays 40k here, feels bad man

>>51752689

>Regular termies are cool.

>Tac squads have no equivalent, and they're still fucking space marines.

>Fisticuff dredds are rule-of-cool

>Captains are fluffier, librarians are much rarer.

>Stormravens are fucking retarded.

I did a you anon

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Will this do, Klaivex is there so Ynvraine dosn't get challenged by something with 2+

>>51753755
If all else fails the omnispex aren't 100% necessary, or maybe get bits from ebay.

>>51753674
When It came out it seemed like a great idea, adding variety into the flat and boring 5th edition.
It was indeed a minor buff to terminators as they survived most power weapons being swords.
but it's also fucked up me wanting to give my marines power axes as I don't want them striking last...

>>51753872
Anon I'm from Chile.

40k scene is slow, mostly due to bad stores and GW turbo fucking small stores.

Ordo Australi, Astra Bélica, Logia Imperial, warhammer chile. Even a couple of stores play it. Guild Dreams on Monday and Warpig on Tuesday.

>>51753881
yeah, I know, I can proxy or whatever, like I did in the beginning, before I had the 'spex model done. (And to be honest, I really like that -1 cover on the opponent)
I'd have to do a headcount (and arm- and leg-) these days, to see what I have available in the boxes that still await unopened :D

>>51753870
Thank (you) to be honest I only use them to be an asshole and annoy people.

>>51752666
>>51752718
Blood angels have some of the best tacticals, dreadnoughts and preds I think.
Tacticals with heavy flamers combat squadding out of a drop pod, blowing up vehicles and roasting infantry. If they survive the turn they can charge in for s5 I5 attacks.

Preds are fast so they can actually move AND fire all their weapons.

Dreadnoughts are still kinda crappy but they're I5 on the charge now allowing them to pull a fast one on other walkers. They most likely need a drop pod to be useful though.

>>51752689
How can you possibly think assault terminators are good for anything ever?

>>51753943
assault termos with storm shield are great

u tarded or something?

>play Black Templars
>most fluffy units are Land Raiders, Crusaders, Vindicators, Captains/Chaplains, Vanguard Veterans (Sword Brethren) and Assault Terminators
>none of them are any good
>chapter tactics aren't any good
>Librarians best HQ unit in the SM codex
>can't use them

Why is being a Crusader bro such unbearable suffering?

>>51753918
Ohh ty pal, are these stores in Santiasko btw?

>>51753971
Wrathful crusade formation.

Have fun.

>>51753943
They're good but not for their points.

There is a nice formation that allows them to deepstrike and charge first turn but it forces you to take 3 of them, that's a 600 point minimum investment.

>>51753971
Our zeal will carry us to victory brother. Have faith.

>>51753981
Guild Dreams and Warpig are in santiago

Funny thing thou.

Guild Dreams is right in the middle of a ton of sex shop. While Warpig is near Passapoga (a strip club). On the flip side there are some nice bar near the stores.

>>51753987
I mean, you have to buy $120 in non-Templar models to even use it.

>>51754014
Use scouts as proxies.

>>51754021

I doubt many people would accept a scout as a proxy for Celestine. Besides, all of my scouts are being used as Crusader squad neophytes.

>>51754014
It's also fluffy and pretty stronk.

Don't whine. Think of all the poor ork and tyranid players.

>>51754007
I see, also you buy your stuff outside the country, i guess buying things here its like getting drilled in the eye, ty anyways wom

>>51753870
>>51753815
What caused you to be afraid of women's breasts, anon?

>>51754035
>I doubt people would accept this proxy
>But this other ones ok!
Play your shitty army in silence from now on please.

>>51753987
>forced to use a different faction's units to make the only decent formation they even have available
>said formation only worth using at full capacity sitting at 1040 points blank without upgrades
>420 points taken up by units you shouldn't even need to use

This isn't an acceptable long-term solution and you should be able to see that.

>>51754064
Crusader squad neophytes ARE scouts.

>>51754064
There's a slight difference between using Scouts as proxies for Tempestus Scions or using them as proxies for unique characters where one is taller than a normal marine and the other about the size of a flying Custodes.
Add on that >>51754079 would just lead to further confusion.

I really wish the Wrathful Crusade had at least one more special rule as a benefit. It gives everyone in it Crusader... Which the Templars already ave because of their chapter tactics, making it somewhat redundant. I get it's to help the other, non-Templar units along but still.

>>51754068
Sure, it's not a great long term but every 2 years they make a new SM codex so just be patient.

The Saint Celestine model is fucking awesome anyways.

>>51754061
There is a group of people in this world that own breasts but at the same time don't like seeing them used for cheap tit-illation.

Some times these people have been to play miniature games or even post on /tg/, have you heard of them?

>>51754050
Oh Mirax sell GW stuff too. But they sell them at a higher cost than GW itself for no reason.

Side note, never buy directly from GW the fucks use UPS you know the company that charges 50% of random shit. You end paying shipping twice. So either wait 2-5 months for the regular shipping.
Or just buy from anyone else. The slow as balls shipping is a GW thing only. They fucks have a hate boner against chile.

People from different Facebook groups usually buy in bulk from chinaman. Cheaper, easier and faster than trying to buy from GW itself.

So how do I ever use Assault Marines or Vanguard Veterans properly without using their "can charge on deep strike" formations?

>>51754111
Zealot. Everyone gets Zealot if you fill out the formation.

>>51754111
The thing with helping the other units is that Scions can just Deep Strike in anyway, as can Celestine and Greyfax doesn't even want to run most of the time.

>>51754124
It should still at least give Hatred to everyone by default like Castellans does.

>>51754143
It does give all your units re-roll failed charges for free. And furious charge if you roll 10 or over.

And zealot is a extremely powerful rule.

>>51754143

Oh yeah, that's right,
Damn, it's even more mediocre than I thought.

>>51754178
Yeah but filling out the formation means 2000+ point limits. It's a benefit that won't be applicable most of the time.

>>51754196
>
Yeah but filling out the formation means 2000+ point limits

no it doesnt. you can fill it out on 1500pts.

Why renegade armies are so much fun? anyway, for a campaign with friends i can use CSM as normal units per their unit definition. Whats a good way to make a 750 based on CSM and traitor IG?
1x Arch demagoge with 4 lasgun grunts and master of the horde
1 maxed out platoon of 60 and 50 zombies partnered with a full upgraded Valkyrie and predator was fun.

>>51754116
Well i guessed right about that, ty i hope to see you in the battlefield ;D!

>>51754178
"For free" is a bit of an overstatement, since your points would definitely better spent on more of your own stuff instead of Greyfax and Scions.

Also, for comparison:
>Wrathful Crusade with max unit count and no upgrades: 1040 points, Crusader, Zealot, re-roll charges

>Gladius Strike Force with Librarius Conclave and no upgrades: 935 points, ObSec, re-use of Doctrines, at least 210 points of free Vehicles on top

>>51754208
You're better off not taking anything CSM.

>>51754207
But that's min squads with no upgrades or transports, and Templars are all about large Crusader squads being shuttled around in LRC's.

>>51754224
You are comparing a hilariously broken and overpowered formation with a reasonable one.

>tfw thought blasts only scattered 1d6 and only barrage scattered 2d6
Good thing I haven't actually played any matches yet.

>>51754235
So far upgraded predator with 2x side lascannons seems better then lemon russ no?

>>51754282
Depends. Russ has AV 14 and a MEQ-shredding blast. Predator is better against vehicles.

If you bring CSM, make them a traitor legion allied detachment.

>>51754207
>>51754224

And Wrathful Crusade doesn't even utilize what is arguably the iconic BT unit, the Emperor's Champion, nor does it use other fluffy Templars choices like the Vindicator.

Plus, to get Zealot you have to use Sternguard, which aren't all that fluffy for Templars, and which arguably occupy a niche already filled by the Scions.

>>51754282
Not really.

It's got less armour, can't move and shoot with all it's weapons and ends up costing only a few less points for a negligible increase in firepower over most russes

>Gangs of Commorragh
>Gathering Storm 2

And now GW will consider their obligations to Dark Eldar players to be fulfilled and we probably won't get anything new for two years. What a time to be alive.

>>51754299
detachments so far are not allowed so as i said i can treat CSM as normal uh..unbound but bound units? just consider them of RnH roster

>>51754300
The formation is hardly perfect and like you said the sternguard stands out as kinda meaningless.

But it is a strong formation and it does make your crusader squads very nasty in CC.

So hold out until the next SM codex.

>>51754321
As a Templar player I feel the same way. Getting something for a change felt rather bittersweet because I know it's all we'll get for another 4+ years.

>>51754261
Even the other Chapter-based detachments tend to give rules that are just as strong and leave a lot more room for customization and don't have almost half of their points spent on some arbitrary filler units they shoved in for the sole reason of Fall of Cadia fluff. Celestine I can possibly let slide because "muh holy emprah angel" and shit kind of fitting with Black Templars but there was no need to have Greyfax be a part of them.
None of the two should have been necessary to take, though, and you should be able to replace the Captain with the Emperor's Champion. Make Greyfax, Celestine and the Scions a voluntary pick, not necessary, and give Hatred by default in place of Crusader and give Zealot if you use everything.

>>51754322
>not allowing detachments but allowing unbound

Man, what kind of crazy place are you at?

Check your local rules, that seems double retarded

>>51754321
Same goes for the SoB. 2 special characters! Now fuck off!

>>51754336
>hold out until the next SM codex
>it's been 2 editions since we had our own codex already

>>51754345
just between friends really, you gotta stay within your faction, not that unbound.

>>51754336
I agree that it can augment the effectiveness of Crusaders. I just doubt they'll give the Templars anything good in the next marine codex. They didn't feel the need to allow us to use formations for three years, and now that we got the pity-fuck that is FoC I doubt we'll see anything decent for a few more years.

>>51752260
"Oh boo hoo, some of my people believe in the new God of Death, I don't want to follow the god of death, so I'm going to up and quit over follow the Minority." Quit yer bitching you Space Elf reach down between your legs, force your testicles to drop (metaphorical ones or otherwise) and be the Bad-ass you have always been. You don't hear me saying "Well now that Girly Man is back guess I have to give up being a Chaos Marine and go hump his leg like the Imperial Marines are likely to.

>>51754417
What the hell are you on about?
I'm talking about the fact that as A Dark Eldar player, if I want to use the new formation, I will be lumped in with the cheese dealing Craftworlders. Even though I'd be using almost exclusively DE stuff.

Are you actually retarded?

>plays CSM

Oh shit I guess you are never mind.

>>51754400
Nah SoB got pity fucked hard.

BT just got fucked.

>>51754448
I always hate the argument that under-represented factions should be content with some powerful detachment/formation that only has power because it combines them with other, stronger factions. It's true for Dark Eldar and Ynnari, Harlequins and Ynnari, SoB and Castellans of the Imperium and Black Templars and the Wrathful Crusade.

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>>51752281
Don't let egg nay sayers get to you, play how you want. I focus on a melee Tyranid force with minimal shooting and do fine in my local meta. I get bull dozed by tourney lists, but i have fun anyway. Pic is of my hive tyrant, super minimal with only old adversary

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>>51754468
>Orks are going to be part of this campaign too!
>fight with the Orks at the beginning
>never mentioned again
>NPC race
At least you got new rules.

>>51754448
The new formation takes away your distinct Dark Eldar Power from Pain, do you really want to give that up for Soul Burst?

And if you don't want Cheese dealing craftworlders in your force, but you want soul burst, grab some Elf Clowns because Harlequins were a fluffy ally of Dark Eldar already.

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>>51754417
>>51754448
>eldar players slapfighting like nerds

>>51754486
At least we can technically do a pure DE Reborn Warhost. I'm actually cool with that (the soulburst feels kind of dark eldary really, people dying around you gives you a boost? awesome), the whole thing just feels like a back handed insult at the same time.

>>51754486
Castellans or why the fuck would you take CAD with SoB the formation.

It is a formation with no downsides that has 100 point tax of a useful character

>>51754537
Did they even announce Orks as being part of the campaign outside that one introduction mission in the White Dwarf?

>>51754537
I'm just holding out for an Armageddon supplement (wasn't the end retconned like the 13th black crusade?), which could mean some new ORk stuff and a new Grimaldus model or something

>>51753221
does nobody realise you cant fit 11 in a 10man transport?

>>51754570
Nope, just the WD thing, so I don't know who got their hopes up

>>51752466
What is it you want to play?

>>51754537
Anon everything is a NPC race but marines. Just look at GW store.

>>51754541
I think Soulburst could work for me since I run a shitload of reaver units and typically turbo boost them straight at the enemy in the first turn. So now I do that, one unit dies because they're just cardboard, the other ones immediately charge.

I will probably run a reborn warhost alongside a CAD or Allied detachment though just for some obsec.

>>51754615
but every time I go on there all I see is Age of Sig-

>>51754634
>my army used to have to use tactics to get into a Turn 2 Assault.
>Now I can just throw some fodder out and get it Turn 1!

The Ynnari are literally cancer.

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Speaking of the Wrathful Crusade, what could I change about this?
Yes, I know that using a Land Raider is inherently a bad thing but fuck it, it's fluffy.

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>>51754679
>forgot Jump Packs
Whoops.

>>51754665
>had to use tactics
Confirmed for never having played with or against Dark Eldar.

step 1: use the fastest units in the game to go wherever you want
step 2: jink
step 3: assault

Yeah real tactical man. Surely it takes a master tactician to successfully position a unit that can move 48 inches in a single turn.

t. an actual Dark Eldar player

>>51754730
Looks fun and fluffy. I assume greyfax is going with the scions, so how do you plan to play those?

>>51754752
Was considering to just use the Scions to come in and shoot up some MEQs and send Greyfax with either the LRC if I want to get rid of Overwatch against stuff like a blob of anti-MEQ fire or to deploy her with the Sternguard to help them a bit with shooting and their morale.

>>51754738
Assault on turn 2 with SoB and then win the game.

I've only done it against bad Necron player and Orks

>Necron Warriors unit size 10-20
>Box of Necron Warriors contains 12 warriors
>Want two units of 10? 4 warriors left over
>Want two units of 20? 4 boxes with 8 warriors left over

MUH TISM

>go to buy a specific paint
>instead walk out with 100 euros of Space Marines and forgot the paint
FUCK

Really I'm just hoping that they have a "Crusaders of The Imperium" codex in 8th that unifies SoB and Black Templars, given that they really emphasize the "super zealous platonic best friends" relationship between the two in FoC.

>>51754823
IG squads are made of at least 15 models, excluding veteran squads.

Try making senses of IG infantry platoons and cry.

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>>51754679
Dunno why you're taking shitfax.
>mixed combi-weapons
REEE
>naked scions that can DS with plasma or melta but you don't
why.jpg
>15/16 slots filled in the LRC
>mixed weapons
WHY
>PF on a 3+ 1W model with no one to eat a challenge
juicy 64pt unit that's gonna get mulched
>BT footsloggers
do you even metal bawks
>one lascannon in the WHOLE LIST
>3 Combi-Gravs
ironically the worst unit in the game currently (vehicles) are your worst nightmare. good job.

if you REALLY want a power fist, take it on a mook who can't get challenged. Power Sword on sgt if you need AP3, otherwise Power Maul is better.

>>51754314
Most of the Russes can't shoot all of their weapons at normal BS at all because of Ordnance.

>>51754779
Oh okay, the only critique I have is that the five scions by themselves won't do much damage, but they'll do enough if they target small squads such as devastators

>>51754866

That's nowhere near as bad. An IG squad is two infantry squads of ten, who come in boxes of ten, and a command squad of five who come in boxes of five.

>>51754883
Special weapons and heavy weapons, etc etc.

Any way with 3 Necron box you get 4 squads. With 3 IG you can maybe get get 3.

Also don't Necron Warrior box come with scarabs too?

>>51754122
you simply don't. they're shit and assault is broken in 7E.

>>51754866
How to play Guard:
>Buy Three Cadian Command Squad.
>Buy Five Cadian Shock Troops
1 Company Command Squad
2 Platoon Command Squad
4 Infantry Squad

Congrats, your first Guardsmen are ready! The extra box is so you can get some more special weapons or lasguns.

Alternative:
>Buy ONE Lord Commissar
>Buy Two Cadian Shock Troops
Lord Commissar, Two Veteran Squads.

Have fun getting shitstomped.

>'Cheap' Method
>Buy One Cadian Command Box
>Buy 5 Cadian Shock Troops
You should always at least give your HQ squad distinction, but with 50 men you can field 2 infantry platoons (5 Platoon Command, 20 Infantry Squad).

HWT sold separately, lel

>>51754823

Most necron infantry is from dual kits. Use those spare warrior bodies to convert up lords/crypteks for your royal court.

You ARE running a royal court, aren't you, Anon?

>>51754870
>dunno why you're taking shitfax
It's called a formation and is the only decent one that Black Templars can use with their own shit
>mixed combi-weapons
They're not suicide dropping in with a drop pod and are meant to possibly survive a few shots and not cum all over the place immediately
>15/16 slot LRC and mixed weapons
Slot left for Greyfax if I feel the need to let her ride with them to eliminate the threat of Overwatch
>power fist on Sword Brother
They're gonna be a blob trying to run over things that can't run away fast enough. I'm not going to send them into units their leader characters, I have Celestine and my Captain for that. And as you said yourself, if anything it's just a swap between the two weapons.
>vehicles are hard to kill with a melee army
Hot damn, what a surprise.

>>51754924
>he doesn't start with the artillery formation

>>51754954
>He doesn't play Eldar

>>51754944

While I'm complaining actually, having to run an extra overlord to get the Royal Court is a shit. I want one Overlord for my entire army.

Question from phone posting scum. Is the Corvus Blackstar included in the Castellans list?

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>>51749549
>>51749740

>Black Templars
Any Melee Focused Gundam Ranging From Deathscythe to Char's Sazabi

>Blood Ravens
Sazabi class mechs like Nightingale for Heavy mobile armor and Sinaju

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Advice pls

1/3

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>>51755023

>>51755023
Would consider using some Scions for respawning DS shenanigans.

>>51755023

STOP POSTING THIS EXACT SAME FUCKING LIST IN EVERY THREAD JESUS CHRIST

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>>51754988
I love sliding in the D on my big wraithk.

>Duncan on stream
Yas.

>>51755017
No. Nothing from DW, GK, DA, BA, SW, LoTD

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>>51755029


>>51755033
Nigga I might if I ever got advice.

>>51755035
Oh god that reminded me of the Falcon that was used as a fleshlight.

Never buying used Eldar shit ever again.

>>51753153
>>51753153
Ynnari don't have battle focus and most of eldar war machines
They are like adding a SoB allied army
To benefit from soulburst you need to get into close range and bunch your units

>>51753873
>Captains are fluffier, librarians are much rarer.
>There are only 10 Captains per standard size Chapter

>Ultramarine's Librarius
>1 Chief Librarian, 5 Epistolaries, 9 Codiciers, 10 Lexicaniums, 3 Acolytum

>Assuming we don't use Chief and only the two highest ranks we have 14 Librarians

>14 > 10
>Librarians are more common than Captains

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>>51755079
>Oh god that reminded me of the Falcon that was used as a fleshlight.
I'm sorry what?

>>51755095
>he doesn't play Black Templars
Fuck those psyker pussies.

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>>51755089
What if I just have a 100% melee focused Eldar/DE/Harlequin army then.

>not taking both a captain and a librarian

>>51753737
Moaning wankers with daddy issues who want a big man to slap them about

>>51755119
Bought a used Falcon

>The thing was rather sticky.
>Check the hatch to see if it was glue up.
>Foul smells comes out from it
>Is that glue at the back?
>Oh god it was not glue

Someone used to fuck a Falcon the sold it, but not before using it one last time.

>>51755049
Which is weird if you think about it SW, DA and LotD were kind of crucial to the plot

>>51755177
>Mutants, traitors and demons
>allowed in the most imperial of detachments
Top kek