That Guy / Terrible experience stories

>>51751407
What is a drizzt clone, anyway? Just a two-sword drow?
I see the phrase tossed around so much and I have no idea which bits of the character its referencing.

>>51751407
>wants pizza that everybody has paid for except him
I'd tell his Friend to give him some of his pizza.

>>51751422
You aren't entirely wrong since most Drizzt clones are very flat characters beyond dual-wielding drow

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Drizzt
>Drizzt Do'Urden is the Drow Elf Drow protagonist of several of R.A. Salvatore's Forgotten Realms novels. He is well known - and well-hated - on /tg/ for being the origin of the "Good Drow Ranger Fighting To Prove Him/Herself Worthy Despite The Sins Of His/Her Kin Whilst Dual-Wielding Scimitars" stereotype used as a template to create characters by hundreds upon thousands of pathetically unoriginal idiots the world over. Whilst Drizzt really isn't a terrible character in and of himself (especially in light of shit like Pinelight), the sheer volume of Drizzt-clones he's spawned are capable of inducing burning fury in even the most mild and even-tempered of dudes.

>>51751407
sounds like you were that guy op

>>51751456
Hmm. Can't say I feel that's entirely fair really. I mean what can you do with a drow character? You can make them good and be a drizzt clone, or evil and be called edgy.
(I'm sure there are good ideas out there but what I'm getting at is that drow are, by nature, a bit limited)

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>>51751407
I'll contribute, posted this a few times before so it might be old, but whatevs.

>Get invited to a Pathfinder game by a friend who's a player in said game.
>Get warned there's a "That Guy", but it's not really a huge deal.
>Show up to first session to meet everyone.
>That Guy has found an excuse to skip the session that day.
>With everyone else there, I catch up on the story and start making a character who will fit the game.
>Fine out the party is about to ask the major magical city of the setting to form an alliance with the Lord they're serving.
>Decide to make a wizard who's in the city's magic school, since the party has no arcane casters, and it gives the party someone who could potentially get them an audience with the audience with the academy heads and potentially the Queen who runs this city.
>Everyone likes this idea nad we agree to introduce me next session.
>Next session happens
>That Guy is there
>That guy gets booty bothered that my introduction is apparently "hogging all the spotlight" after we've been playing for literally 10 minutes.
>That guy suddenly decides he hates mages, hates magic, hates the city, and especially hates it's queen.
>When we finally get our audience with the queen, the first thing he does is flatout threaten her, demanding she become our ally "or else".
>The rest of us are sitting there horrified.
>Needless to say, the Queens Royal Guard and the academy mages drop in a single round and he gets arrested.
>That Guy bitches endlessly about how railroady that was and how the Queen's a Mary Sue
>For some reason we decide to tolerate his little tantrum and give him a hand, telling the Queen his outburst was due to the stresses of travelling and battle
>Queen agrees and lets That Guy out of jail later that same day.
>That guy has now decided we need to KILL THE QUEEN and the campaign is going nowhere until we do. Almost PvP's my character for not wanting to.
>I don't show up for another session ever again.

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>>51751524
Also worth noting that the DM was either super beta or friends with That Guy IRL, because despite clearly realizing how stupid That Guy's ideas were, he would kinda urge the players to go along with them like he was afraid of making That Guy upset or some shit, and after awhile the players always did because they just wanted to play the fucking game instead of argue all session (I don't actually blame them for this). This was actually the main reason I left, moreso than That Guy himself.

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>>51751407
I know this is a That Guy thread, but fucking kudos to your DM for being "This Guy" and having some fucking balls when it came to dealing with That Guy.

>>51751517
Had a guy play what he called an "emancipated drow dude"
It was actually pretty interesting. He wasn't out to prove shit about drow, he just wanted to do his thing. He tended toward good, but ultimately looked after himself and those close to him, and didn't turn down being helpful to strangers. When he could. He certainly didn't give a fuck about proving himself to others.

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>>51751517
I think drow attracts a certain kind of players who think darker+edgier=better, but I could see it done it ways that are neither.

Like picture related, except maybe less intentionally humorous.
You are a drow who somehow made it to the surface world, you don't want to go back to the matriarchy, not a lot of people trust you on the surface. So you look out for yourself and help those who help you. You don't have an end goal beyond survival and so you just go with the flow.

I never read the Drizzt novels so I don't know what kind of character he is, but I am familiar with the cliché.

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>>51751524
>>Get invited to a Pathfinder game
There's your mistake.

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>>51751820
Oh, I know. Believe me, I know.

Worst I experienced was a DM asking for our character's sexual preferences.

Wanted to quite right then and there, but a friend urged me to carry on. So I made a warforged and answered that they were asexual.

Game began with us having to rescue a princess, we find her as she is being "defiled" (raped) by a tentacle monster. At which point I excused myself and left, while I was waiting for the bus my friend came ten minutes later.
Asked him why he left, told me DM began describing my character getting raped. I pointed out that I had made a warforged, friend shrugged and said he had pointed that out too, but the DM didn't care, at which point my friend left.

I still wonder what my friend expected from a game where the DM asked for sexual preferences.

>>51751524
>That guy suddenly decides he hates mages, hates magic, hates the city, and especially hates it's queen.

Our last That Guy (he'd been playing with us for about five years total) used to pull this sort of shit all the time; he'd basically lash out as soon as he got frustrated, and the list of shit that frustrated him got longer and longer over time.

He managed to completely derail a long running campaign that I enjoyed, a lot, because he'd recently added "not being the centre of attention" to the list of things that frustrate him, and decided that playing a brooding loner with no character beyond would be a good idea. It'd always be...

>Get frustrated
>Do something really fucking disruptive
>"It's what my character would do!"

Eventually, we kicked him out, but the damage was done - the DM hasn't really ran a game since, it soured somebody relatively new to RPGs from wanting to try it again, and it's just generally drained the enthusiasm from everyone involved.

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>>51751407
Mine is rather tame compared to most

>playing 5e D&D
>group consists of close friends, couple friends' friends and That guy
>grossly overweight neet who plays WoW
>plays female characters exclusively
>doesn't role play, ever
>can't really exclude him since his brother is also a player and a close friend of mine
>join in on the second session
>That guy is playing some shady cloaked cleric who dresses in such a way that it's hard to discern his or her true identity
>herewegoagain.tga
>roll up a rogue
>staying in character, I eye up the cleric to pick up anything that could indicate his/her race or gender
>fudge perception roll
>passingly ask out of character "so, you character is female, right?"
>"you don't know that, anon" with a stupid fucking grin on his face
>"so, female, got it"
>"BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT"
>"whatever, man"

Other than that one exchange, he hasn't really been much of a nuisance.

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>>51751407
I was that guy, once...

I made a strongman in a mutants and masterminds campaign and then I made him a grappler.

It was almost as broken as speedsters can be... sometimes I think that it's another reason my GM went on hiatus. I feel really bad

>>51751776
It still seems a bit of an odd concept to me, in that case. If you're not going to acknowledge your chosen race then why would you choose such a strange one. I would have thought the only reason to play a drow would be so that you can mess around with their culture and mindset a bit.

>>51751776
>I never read the Drizzt novels so I don't know what kind of character he is, but I am familiar with the cliché.
Funnily enough early Drizzt basically is a crazy drow hobo trying to figure out how the surface world works iirc.

>be a DM
>DM a newb game
>that guy rolls a teenager rogue with max bluff
>goes and pisses in middle of a town
>guards yell at him to go further away
>he goes and pisses in some poor peasants garden
>a woman comes out flailing a rolling pin and hits him
>nat 20
>crits
>takes whopping 2 dmg
>that guy shouts "GUARDS HELP HELP"
>tries to bluff the guard that he had done nothing wrong
>I tell him its useless to try to bluff the same guards that saw you pissing in public a minute ago
>throws a fit for not getting to roll an impossible bluff roll

Im so glad his character died last session. god bless rng.

>>51752112
>fudge perception roll
>against another player
>because you are obsessed with their character's gender

Anon, I think you're a that guy.

>>51752345
I think he means fudge as in 'do badly on' rather than 'fudge the result'
Plus he asked OOC, which is fine regardless of the result.

>>51752345
So asking once during a single exchange over the course of an entire campaign constitutes as obsession? Get real, anon

>>51752345
>Character wears clothes that conceals their gender
>Other character slips up and calls them a man/woman because they aren't sure what's under the clothes
What's wrong with that, exactly? I would probably make the same mistake IRL, desu senpai

>>51751820
Have been playing Pathfinder for the last two years with the same group. Literally zero problems and tons of fun to be had. It's always the group, not the game.

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>>51752345

>>51752372
Right, should've been more clear on that

Is 'That Guy' a term most players use, or is it just something from /tg/?

>>51752529
Does it make a difference?

>>51752560
Just curious, haven't had the chance to play any rpg's

>>51752529
>>51752566
It's a pretty common term outside of /tg/

>>51751892
>I still wonder what my friend expected from a game where the DM asked for sexual preferences.
I was getting set to point out that a GM knowing a PC's sexual preference, as in orientation, could be useful in setting up romance subplots so establishing it wouldn't necessarily be a sketchy thing.

Then I realized you said "preferences" plural, which could mean "What are your fetishes?"
There is a definite difference and the socially aware know which they're being asked when in person.
Like you clearly did.

>>51752566
The term isn't /tg/ exclusive, but it depends on the context you use it - mostly because it is so self explanatory. Urban dictionary has a few universal examples.

Most hobbies has a few categories of that guys an the expression is really only used when you need a umbrella term.

It is also a very relative term, which a lot of /tg/ doesn't get, they think it is an archtype - like Drizzt - and that everything they don't like is a that guy.

The best summary is: That guy no one likes. If there isn't one in your group, then it is you.
Someone always gets salty over this for some reason, I'm not saying that doesn't prove they are that guy, but...

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>>51751600
Why is "this guy" not the antonym to "that guy" yet? Anytime somenoe deals with that guy in a good way, they become this guy.

>>51752686
>Why is "this guy" not the antonym to "that guy" yet?
Uh, anon, it IS. Its even on fucking 1d4chan.

>>51752686
It is, but the number of bad players by far outnumbers the amount of good players (with a metric shit-tonne of "Meh." in between) and as such there are far fewer This Guy threads.

>>51752601
You are right that it wouldn't necessarily be a sketchy thing, but nine out of ten times I am asked that question it goes horrible.

Maybe I am just weird, but I like to keep my wanking at a safe distance from my hobbies.

Besides, most good GMs knows better than to begin developing romance subplots before the game has started.

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>>51752721
holy shit you're right. I've been on this board for at least 3 years now and I've never seen it used

>>51752795
>most good GMs knows better than to begin developing romance subplots before the game has started.
Fair observation

>Maybe I am just weird, but I like to keep my wanking at a safe distance from my hobbies.
Also excellent advice that I follow.
Otherwise, it thickens the paints.

>>51752713
>>51752721
>>51752851
If no one else is going to post that guy stories, can someone share a this guy story?

>Never tried 3.5 or Pathfinder
>Get invited to a PF game by my friends friend I had just met at our 40k game (dude was a space wolves player seemed normal)
>GM tells me the setting
>Impassable swamp watched by steely garrison needs help dealing with a hag
>Elderly alchemist accompanies us to show us some plants he thinks the hag tampered with
>That guy arrives late sits next to space wolves guy
>GM catches him up and he informs us he will be playing a Dwarf named "Meatfist"
>Elderly alchemist leads us to the strange plants
>That guy starts making a bunch of dumb jokes as space wolves guy eggs him on
>Ignore it
>Finally arrive at the plant, I ask why the alchemist thinks its weird
>He says the odor is noxious and usually these herbs have a sweet taste and scent
>That guy tries to intimidate the alchemist into tasting it
>He is old and has no teeth, he also fails the intimidate
>That guy says, Ok I'm going to grapple the alchemist and shove the plant up his ass as an enema
>GM rolls his eyes and space wolves guy claps like a retarded seal
>Makes him roll for it
>He succeeds
>That guy murders an alchemist by shoving plants up his ass
>This happened once more with a toll guard and some silver pieces before the game ended and I never spoke to any of them again

first campaign I ever played, i think it's safe to say that everyone involved was in some way "that guy," including me.

Me
>Make a STR based 15 year old character
>overly reliant on dice rolls rather than roleplay
>rarely RP at all
>fuck up DM's "rebellion" quest line by turning on all the rebels during a raid when I learned they were socialists fighting the 1%
>frequently make stupid sex jokes while trying to get my character laid
>roll in situations where the chosen skill would not be applicable (intimidate a lich)

The DM
>hastily made massive city setting
>no actual layout or geographic consistency
>everything is improved
>shit, lower than the worst anime, tier humor and character archetypes
>Sir Duck, the duck knight
>the rat king, morbidly obese underground ruler who frequently murders people because "lol so random"
>DM PC who, in the span of us running a hundred meters to his hideout after we saw him tackled through the door by a guard, killed the guard and switched into his outfit.
>frequently putting us in encounters far out of our level range
>DM PC who pushes us down a certain path without giving us all the details, thus causing the scripted deaths of the whole party because "plot"

DM's friend
>intentionally antagonistic towards DM
>ninja that fucks with everyone else in the party
>poisons other players and NPCs
>no Roleplaying
>goes stealth and runs from every encounter, leaving me to deal with Lichs and other monsters by myself at level 2.
>partakes in debauchery just for the hell of it, no other reason
>decides to try and become a god without knowing all the details and sacrifices the whole city in order to attain godhood for a few moments before burning up.

The Other Guy
>Shows up three hours late to the first session
>Halfling character is mute with a tragic mom rape backstory
>does nothing for the rest of the session
>never shows up again

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Well, here's a story I told three years ago.
You tell me where it falls.

>be working at mall media store with a video game demo
>mall has a decent gaming store too
>coworker is a WH40K enthusiast so I know the value of a set
>see kid at demo playing game and a clear case the size of suitcase, full of figures, on the floor next to him
>Iknowwherethisisgoing.jpg
>I make a point to circle around and check on the demo every few moments
>eventually, sure enough, the case is there, the kid is not
>snag case; put it behind the register quickly
>keep a wary eye out
>about 20 minutes later, kid runs in with a face of pure panic and horror
>I go up and tell him I have the case, give it to him, and tell him to be more careful next time
>THEN I go up and tell my WH40K Fan coworker the story
>his face lights up with delicious childlike glee when I tell him about the kid, the lost case, and me hiding it immediately
>his whole body thrashes to the side in dismay when I tell him I gave it back
>I still smile at his despair at the missed opportunity to steal from a child

>>51753402
>everything is improv

mostly my fault, I didn't really know what I was getting into. Didn't understand at the time that combat and dice rolls weren't as important as the roleplaying aspects.

Would have been nice to have a system, seems we were using 4e D&D character sheet mixed with elements from pathfinder.

Least I know better now, but damn is that whole experience hard to look back on.

>>51753417
Damn, what an asshole.

Although personally I would've probably done what you did, forgotten I had the case, and watched the kid cry for half an hour before I remembered to give it back.

>>51753289
My short and simple solution to guys who try random nonsense is that nothing can be attempted in game unless you can explain a reason, that makes sense, why that character would do that.

>>51753417
Your coworker is a dipshit and you did the right thing.

>>51751456
>>51751517
Viconia De'Vir is Drow done right.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Viconia_de%27Vir

>>51751407
>”Drizzt”-player hasn't gotten any, no Pizza for him
>Throws a tantrum until the GM lets him have pizza anyway
I fully agree with him here, it's absolute bullshit to eat pizza and force him to watch just because the guy happened not to have any cash on him.

>>51753479
As a GM this is how I deal with minmaxers.
Might be railroading, might be GM fiat. I don't care.
But even if you have a charisma modifier that is through the roof, why the Hell should an NPC do your every bidding just because you are a charismatic son of a bitch?
At least give a reason instead of randomly throw a dice.

>>51753537
You are okay with someone throwing a tantrum until they get their way?

>>51753582
Not him, but it seems like the other players were being a bundle of dicks too. Why not go "sure, have a piece, you can pay me back next time"

>>51753582
Telling him to seat and watch everybody eat pizza because he had no cash is even more despicable in my opinion.

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>>51753455
>I would have stolen from a child and watched him cry for HALF AN HOUR with a smirk on my face like some turbo-autist

>>51753417
I've got a similar story.
>Friend runs a church youth group
>This was when Yugioh was stupid popular
>Friend spent easily nearly £1000 in getting all the latest cards, decks and stuff.
>Friend even went out of their way to get English god cards and whatnot.
>The cards are all put into a box and the kids are allowed to pick and choose, make their own decks and play each other.
>All good for about a year
>One new kid turns up, wow'ed by the collection.
>New kid steals the whole fucking lot while friend takes the kids away for prayer.
>Friend doesn't run church events again.

I'm not religious, but damn that must have stung him. Also CCG players seem to be scum in general.

>>51752202
Yeah the first books were actually good. After book 9(?) it got weird. I think i stopped reading them after 12.

>>51752678
>Someone always gets salty over this for some reason
Hmm, I wonder if that's because some people have low tolerance for idiocy?

>>51753595
>>51753606
So you two are okay with people throwing a tantrum to get their way.

Cool, I hope neither of you ever play in the same game as I.

>>51753809
They are allergic to themselves?

>>51753817
Just throw a tantrum. You'll get what you want at least

>>51753843
Pretty sure dignity is not something I can be given.

>>51753609
That's not what I said, though, nor did I imply it.

>>51751445
This. The friend needs to be punished for bringing him, anyway.

>>51753911
>implying grown adults should parent their friends

>>51753582
>it's not okay for someone to throw a tantrum until they get their way
True.

>>51753606
>Telling him to seat and watch everybody eat pizza because he had no cash is even more despicable
Is also my opinion.
That Guy is not getting his way because of the tantrum, but because I'm not willing to be despicable just to "parent" a peer and not reward problem behavior.

>>51753825
>>51753809
>some people have low tolerance for idiocy
Huh. I missed this the first go read:
>>51752678
>If there isn't one in your group, then it is you.
This is confirmed as pretty much pure idiocy.
Not every group has a guy that nobody likes.

>>51754318
>Not every group has a guy that nobody likes.
Anon, I have some news...

>>51754318
>despicable
nigger its fucking pizza
do you think he was going to starve if he didnt eat pizza with everyone else? why are you being so dramatic?

>>51754539
eating together is an important social dynamic, as the old adage goes, breaking salt and bread. you can't hold someone in close confidence if you've never eaten with eachother.

>>51754573
so you're stupid and overdramatic
gotcha, thanks for sharing

>>51754616
eating together is an ancient form of bonding, to eat separate is an affront and not a courtesy to someone if they are to be equals socially.
only in a caste system is it natural to eat apart in a household.
also, it's just one slice of pizza, nigger.

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>>51754539
>why are you being so dramatic?
"Despicable" might be a grand term for it, but anon picked it and I dug it.
It's definitely more of a dick move than complaining about being the only guy who has to sit and watch the others eat.

>>51754650
>it's just one slice of pizza
I know, right?
I don't know why that other anon is getting so dramatic over it.

>>51754437
>Anon, I have some news...
Is it good, everyone?

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>>51754650
>eating together is an ancient form of bonding, to eat separate is an affront and not a courtesy to someone if they are to be equals socially.

So let me get this right:
>Guy turns up unannounced
>Doesn't coordinate it with the GM despite the GM hosts, provides snacks and coordinates ordering pizza
>Rolls a character that doesn't fit in the group
>Not even an original character
>Provides a background story flatter than /a/'s latest 2D waifu
>Game is delayed half an hour because either their character sheet is incorrectly filled (or they have been cheating on their rolls or worse)
>They ruin the flow of the game by treating it like it is video games
>Consequently does stupid shit and has a quick-save mentality
>Throws a tantrum over not getting pizza (and it is pretty heavily implied that the GM has been forking out all the expenses so far)
>Is thrown a bone in the sense that character is locked up and they have to play another character temporarily
>Does the exact same stupid shit that got their first character locked up in the first place
>Won't leave until cops are called
I'm repeating that last one for emphasis
>Won't leave until cops are called
And you think this is a guy the group wants to bond with and consider an equal??

>>51754894
Yes.

>>51754894
It was just societal pressure that forced him to act that way. I'm sure he's a good guy and had no evil intentions.

>>51755002
Well, you are retarded.

>>51755067
No u

I feel a little bad posting this in a "that guy" thread because it's a buddy of mine with a problem I'm pretty sure can't be completely helped but I have a player who keeps having full-blown, medically certified panic attacks during our game when things get tense, hyperventilating and tearing up and going "I don't know" over and over for upwards of a half hour sometimes.

I'm no psychologist and I have no idea how to address the issue tactfully but I can tell at least one of the other players has gotten really tired of it. I can understand that, given that we all go to game night for something comfortable and fun, but I've seen the papers and it's something multiple doctors have seen him over so it's not like it's a cry for attention.

I'm honestly not sure if it was I or the DM that was that guy in this situation.

>Playing sorcerer in 5e
>Enchanter type, with twinned suggestions as the weapon of choice
>Start focussing more on either getting people out of the fight or just making them leave to do whatever random shit I came up with
>Bandits would hand themselves over to guards, goblins would try to join the circus, people were starting to get confused
>Start noticing we're levelling pretty slowly, but dm is new so I try to bring it up with him discreetly
>He says we haven't been getting exp because we weren't killing things
>I (somewhat) politely inform him that is not the case
>He (even less) politely disagrees
>After failed negotiations, I decide to play his game
>Next session, the other players are shocked at my newfound sadism
>Instead of using suggestion to remove enemies I instead use it to lock them down in increasingly cruel ways
>To some I told them to scratch their names into the cave walls with their fingernails, to others I told them to dig their own graves, one I told him to lick my boots clean
>The party had previously been inspired by my peaceful resolutions, and now they were starting to feel bad about executing mindless victims
>Eventually the DM brought it up, as he ought to have. I simply pointed out that we wouldn't advance if we didn't kill
>He tried to argue that it was metagaming, but I figured what sorcerer wouldn't kill for free power?
>The other players eventually came on board once they realised that was the reason we were clearly too low level for where we were in the campaign.
>He starts to panic a bit, tells me I'm supposed to be chaotic neutral and I can't just go powerhungry like that
>I cross it out and write chaotic evil

That was the first and last time I played a chaotic evil character and it kinda hurt me. That game went on hiatus for a while but in the end we convinced him to stop using the exp system and I stopped being an edgelord.

>>51755112
He needs to work with his psychologist to identify his triggers, share that with the GM and maybe the group, and try to play in a way that avoids them.
Alternatively, he could leave or everyone can tolerate it.

>>51751517
>>51751693
>>51751776
>>51752141
My default character is a NE drow.

I tend to play him as a self-interested, cocky fucker, with incredibly edgy motives, but light-hearted banter the rest of the time. He insults royalty and team-members, but does it with a grin and a wink so no one takes him seriously, up until the point where he kills the person who did wrong by him eight sessions prior.

It's a slightly edgy leaning, but I think I get away with it. 90% of the time he's just another character in the party.

>>51755130
You were the That Guy That GM deserved.
Not too bad in either direction.

>>51755112
>>51755189
sounds broken, you should return him to the store and get a new one

>>51755130
He was a dick for not awarding XP for "may as well be dead" solutions. You weren't That Guy, you were just a bit edgy.

Meh. I'd side with you but I also would lose interest in your character. Take from that what you will.

>>51753479
I start doing this only if their behavior becomes a problem. Once in a while, sure, you do your random nonsense, whatever makes you happy, but if your random nonsense is completely fucking the game over and wasting everyone's time then I'm gonna require you to explain your reasoning and why exactly the rest of the party isn't stopping you.

>>51753665
There are scummy people in any hobby, but I swear people that play TCGs are some of the worst for some reason. I don't think I've heard of any game, at all, where as much shit is stolen as TCGs. Whether it be MTG or Yugioh, shit is constantly stolen and people constantly cheat.

>>51755130
I would say 60% of that is the GM's fault and 40% is to blame on you.

As long as it all worked out in the end, it's fine, no?

I'm my groups 'that guy'

>I read the rules while the others ask constantly what they need to do.
>I have driven motivations while everyone else bumbles around
>I wrote up a backstory, created my own character and explained what roles I'll like to offer IC and OOCly while everyone else had to have their things made for them.
>When other players show a interest in something that isn't 'your turn to fight', I quietly encourage them to do it, be it actually trying the whole role playing thing or trying to pay attention to the setting.
>As a GM myself, I go out of my way to help the other players and make sure it's not the 'me' show.

Despite all this, the other players relentlessly accuse me of being a rules lawyering, godmoding prick and we only tolerate each other because we are mutual friends with the DM.

>>51755112
That is not a that guy, but I can understand why you are raising the question here.

And sorry to say, but unless you think up a good way to approach the subject, you need to do something soon!

>it's something multiple doctors have seen him over so it's not like it's a cry for attention.
I have a diagnosis too, and trust me, people with diagnosis are not above exploiting them. Just sayin'.
Like >>51755189 says, they need to talk to a psychologist and/or psychiatrist instead of getting fifth-generation hand down pocket psychology from equally broken people online.

I am not sure of the context but you said "game night" so I am presuming this is like an organised event with strangers around.

Your friend needs to stop going there until they have their panic attacks under control.

Instead host the games at home in safe surroundings with people they trust so you can talk them down every time the panic attacks acts up.

Inb4 "There is no GM other than the GM at the game night" because in that case one of your friends needs to start GMing for your other friend, or your other friend - the one with the panic attacks - will NEVER be able to play. Ever!

>>51752436
This. I was able to have plenty of fun with 4th Edition

>>51755220
>I think I get away with it
You don't.

>>51753556
>But even if you have a charisma modifier that is through the roof, why the Hell should an NPC do your every bidding just because you are a charismatic son of a bitch?

Curious, do you use Diplomacy/Bluff/Intimidate tables, or set random DCs?

>>51755347
We started out as a relatively good/neutral party, but players left and others joined and we've ended up more neutral/evil. My character doesn't really impede anyone else's stuff, and the only times it has were:

>when he was trying to turn a monster against an untrustworthy ally who was themselves evil and the monster didn't turn
>when he was trying to get revenge on someone who stole everything he owned and one of the other party members signed on with that person

It's a sandbox campaign, I haven't really caused much trouble or done anything edgy for the sake of being edgy.

Here's a short one

> That Guy makes an AC tank
> Refuses to tank in combat
> Complains when everyone else who has taken hits needs to take a rest

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>>51755378
Neither really works in the context of minmaxers, but I mostly use tables but mentally adjust them as necessary.

So I guess the answer you are looking for is "gut feeling", but it depends a lot on what the player wants to achieve and if it is logical.

Rule lawyers hate me for it. I don't blame them, I follow the school of GMing where the story is more important than the mechanics.

>>51755555
Nice 5.

I think it's fair as long as you tell the players at character-creation that you're a DM that rules by his gut and you will abide by "does this make sense" rather than "b-but the rules say so!"

This prevents someone from being totally fucking assmad or blown out when they FINALLY hit level 6, 7, whatever level that they needed for their "build" to come online only to have you tell them you're not going to allow it and they literally wasted their time/should have made something different.

Sure, here's a That Girl story.
>GM decides to adapt a campaign where everyone plays a sort of summoner in a world where people battling alongside monsters they own is common
>GM's girlfriend plays
>Her creature is amazingly min-maxed and powerful
>Her character is min-maxed towards charisma
>All character interactions go her way because of her ridiculous CHA and the GM giving her whatever she wants
An argument between the two eventually soured the GM on the whole campaign.

>>51755593
Ah, don't worry, I tell my player's that. Repeatedly. At the beginning of every session.

Besides, I need to be inflexible, not rigid.

>>51755555
>quints of quints
This is my favorite type of GM as long as they're up front about it. Letting a good storyteller entertain me with the game is infinitely more fun than having it be derailed by a min-maxer who knows the game better than anyone at the table.

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>LotFP one-shot
>Two hours after fighting a monster, the GM looks at his notes, goes "oh!," and says that he misread the ability of one of the monster we battled
>Says I should have made a saving throw after getting hit by one of its attacks
>Makes me roll, retroactively, for the effect
>Fail
>GM declares that my character, retroactively, was petrified and died two hours ago
>Point out that my character had made a bunch of important contributions to the dungeon crawl since then
>Specifically, I was the thief, and had spotted all the traps we had just spent two hours avoiding
>GM takes note of this but decides that the best way to resolve this is to make a damage roll for each of the traps since the room I had retroactively died in and randomly assign the damage to the surviving members of the party with dice rolls
>He says it's fair because he's rolling in the open, in spite of everyone's protest
>RETROACTIVE TPK
>TWO FLOORS FROM THE END OF THE DUNGEON, THE GM DECLARES THAT WE ALL ACTUALLY PERISHED AN HOUR AGO

Not at bad as some of the other shit here, but probably the most bizzaire thing I've ever seen in a game. It was his first time GM ran for our group, but he insisted he had run dozens of times before online. Coincidentally, it was also the last time he ever ran for our group.

>>51755868
That's hilarious. He should have ran with it and had your ghosts happily exit the dungeon and unwittingly walk into the afterlife.

>>51755868
I think I just witnessed enough stupidity to last me a week...

>>51755868
Congrats. Your GM is an idiot.

>>51755868
Oh man, that reminds me of my first encounter ever, almost had a TPK. Ended up fudging the rules so they defeated it. Later checked up on the rules and realised that not only had I fudged the rules, the mob was barely even half-defeated when it dropped dead.

That being said, what your GM did was stupid as fuck.

Like I tell my group:
If I make a mistake to your benefit, you are not obliged to tell me.
If I make a mistake that puts you at a disadvantage, you are obliged to tell me.

>>51755575
I always feel bad when I have to remind one of my friends about their volume issues. They're good people but, Christ, this is why I stopped hanging out with them in public. The fucking looks we get.

>Playing with a group of people from my uni DnD club
>My character is a family man, with a wife and kid back home, occasionally sends money back to them etc.
>DM makes the BBEG kill them off

what a piece of shit

>>51756345
that's the great thing about a wife and kids, you can easily replace them, they're like a piece of furniture in your house.

>>51755112
Make his worst fears come true. Kill his character when the time comes and he is freaking out, be calm and matter of fact. Make him roll a new one. Maybe the shock of his worst fear will reduce the agony from his panic. Normalize the situation for him in the controlled environment. He panics when he is not in control and instead of being the type to try to seize it he is the type that seizes up and can't make decisions because of the panic.

Man I don't know who is what kind of guy in my case, but I'm getting really depressed here.

>want to play P&P, but no DM anywhere
>hear about Pathfinder Adventure Paths
>form agreement with 5 other friends, to play Rise Of The Runelords, with each player GMing one of the six parts
>agree to do the first part, with all the rule learning, world building, city building, overall learning how to GM, to then be able to share that wisdom with the following, less obsessed GMs
>I do a great job, overall, even going so far as to look through my friends character backstories to create custom quests and happening for those specific players and dedicating extra time and ressources to allow them to enjoy bonus shit, like a full theatre they wanted to perform (to their horror, it turned into an opera, and the lines that I gave them that they practised, they now had to sing. It was great)
>our rythm is every 2 weeks more or less, Fridays, Saturdays or earlier Sundays. Too rare imho, but fine.
>after more than half of a year, my part is over and the happy go lucky fun times friend takes over GM duties. He really wanted to be the second one.
>while he was the best player by far, he fucking sucks so hard as a GM oh god.
>a necromancer shows up and he asks me how the spells the necromancer has work
>he refuses to play on Fridays, as he has no time to prepare then
>he also has no time the next 3 weeks, so now we are playing with 2 less players next time, as the only date that he wants to be GM at is a day that 2 of our group have other things to do already. We managed to miss 1 player at most during my GM time, every 2 weeks.
>says after working from 9 am to 6 pm, he has no strength to read the book casually before bed
>instead starts learning japanese and playing Bloodborne as well as reading everything Trump does to meme about how stupid Americans are, every single week day, but no time to read 10 minutes of the next 2 pages in the book
>refuses to prepare on 1 weekend for the next

>>51757406
>all the while, during my time, I was able to travel to the USA for 3 weeks, without RotR book, come back and, immediately after my 12 hour flight with no sleep for 24+ hours and no preparation for 3 weeks, be a great GM
>now I feel all the time I put into making sure my friends have fun was in vain because at least the first guy can't be bothered.
>even after 2 evenings the morale is low and I fear that we all just want to rush through his chapter to get it over with

Man fuck, what do I do. I invested way too much into this so far.

>>51757448
and thus the forever DM is born.

>>51751517

The answer is, "don't play Drow."

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>>51752372
As that seems to be the case, I retract my statement.

>>51752409
>Anon says he is aware of That guy playing females exclusively
>Then proceeds to fail a perception roll to discern their gender, ICly
>Then asks the player for their gender OOCly, and assumes the character is female
OOCly being the main problem here. If the rogue had asked the cleric flat out, or something like that, this would create a roleplay scenario instead of just taking it OOCly and ignoring it in game.

I once played a golem that pretended to be human (wearing heavy robes and told people it was wearing a clay mask for ceremonial purposes), as golems were unheard of in the area. The players slowly figured it out ICly, some sooner than others and we all had fun.

>>51752429
He asked OOCly, not ICly.

>>51752450
Pic related.

>>51757464
please no

>>51757557
Sorry anon, you're stuck.

>>51751456
by that description... isn't Drizzt kind of an Elric-clone?

>>51752795
Yeah, the players will find their own waifus.

>>51755220
You're literally an eternal That Guy.

>>51755220
You do PvP with the party... that's probably why people leave.

>>51757479
Play with a Black-Fellow pretty often, he never plays the same character but his races of choice are universally Human or Drow.

I think I'd have a hard time telling him not to play drow.

>>51755297
You seem a decent fellow.
And yet...
>the other players relentlessly accuse me of being a rules lawyering, godmoding prick
Either I just accurately gauged from a true story on the internet that you are 100% fine and the other players are caustic, cancerous filth that need to be purged from any decent group and don't derserve your time...
Or, your presentation, and perhaps perspective, is biased in your favor and you might be overlooking instances where you might seem unfavorable in regards to focus on the rules or "god-moding".
Chew on it.
Gain a better perspective.
Get back to us.

>>51757794
Just tell him that drow, as a race, are inherently evil. Then tell him to play a normal pale elf, instead.

>>51755496
>> That Guy makes an AC tank
Great!

>> Refuses to tank in combat
Odd and kind of a red flag that he isn't protecting the team, but could work with a certain type of character.

>> Complains when everyone else who has taken hits needs to take a rest
Burn his character sheet, after shoving it up his ass.

>>51754539
I'm so sorry for not choosing the most precise term in what is not my mother tongue.

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>>51757504
>I post an image at you
>You respond with an image
I dig the style, but seriously, I think you are reading more into the thing than there is.

>>51756559
Hell, run Tomb of Horrors one night.
Kill him, and the other players, dozens of times and try to get him to laugh while doing it.
He might get used to the idea that the will go on if he fails.
Or he might go out and murder a homeless man like Tom Hanks.
Either way, progress!

>>51757406
>>51757448
>>51757557
"Congratulations" Anon, you are forever GM.
Might as well embrace it, once people know you are willing to GM and you can set up a group, you can play whenever you want.
Of course it also sucks because you may never see the other side of the table ever again.

>>51757582
>>51757464
>>51757557
One of us. One of us. One. Of. Us.

>>51758058
>>51758086
There is hope. If you have enough time and go through enough online flakes you will eventually find a game that sticks and isn't bad.

>>51758019
>I dig the style
As the anon that drew that, thanks!

>>51757504
>Pic related.
Reposting my phoneart is very cool and all, but how said pic is related escapes me.
Unless it is a meta example of obsession with a female character that not everyone will get.
I'm curious.

>>51754318
The pizza thing got a easy solution, have him have share note that he should bring enough money to pay for the share next time.

It is not rocket science, i will be frank and say i have been in the situation i forgot money or bringing snacks and i always made a point to pay back the favour, in this case i would been treating everyone for the next game, sure it is more expensive, but it is the right thing to do.

That said, That Guy rarely has that kind of morality and anyone who mooches and never pays or contributes at all has made their bed to simply watch as the others eat, especially since shit like Snacks and Food terms are made quite clear for most groups before the Groups even meet for the first time.

>>51756375
He probably didn't even buy wife-and-kids insurance before he went adventuring. Typical. "It'll never happen to me!"

>preview a homebrew game with friends
>invite 2-3 friends over for some beers and game showcase
>one insists on bringing another mutual friend
>when they show up, the mutual friend (whos fallen on hard times) is incrediblly incoheren, fucked up on some pills or something
>"whatever just stay out of the way"
>demands he plays too
>what should be a 2 hour long game is already having to be expanded to 3 hours dude to blind testing
>this fucked up dude takes 20 minutes PER TURN and expands it to 5 1/2 FUCKING HOURS
>other friends are leaving
>eventually he just sort of stops playing and falls asleep
>rest of the game (just me and one guy) takes about 20 mins to finish up

never again, the 3 bros were true bros and hung out and even tried to stick it out, that last guy is done for in my gamer circle

>>51757504
>If the rogue had asked the cleric flat out, or something like that, this would create a roleplay scenario instead of just taking it OOCly and ignoring it in game.
I vaguely remember asking in character first to which the cleric declined to answer but that's beside the point.

The reason most of us have ignored it thus far is the fact that he hasn't really made any effort in explaining why his character is trying to conceal their identity like the golem you mentioned. He's literally just playing a mysterious character for the sake of being mysterious.

He also makes no effort whatsoever in playing a female character, despite the fact that he always describes them as being particularly good-looking, which actually never comes up during any situation in game. I have absolutely no problem with guys playing female characters if they actually play the part.

>>51757978
Pro tip: Being a supervillain or thwarting Daffy Duck gets you called despicable, very little else will.
But the word itself is fine, just rarely used.
Like scoundrel, which got a positive spin when Han Solo was called one.

>>51757882

Yeah, just tell him that the darkie-elves are violent fucks and that he should play a white civilized elf instead.

>>51757557
It's too late, the process has already begun.

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>>51758200 #
>>51758236 #

>When the group has two that guys
>One knows the rules inside out and tries to control the parties actions to fit their plans
>One makes very min maxed characters that force the party to fit their plans

>Friend gets a good group going
>We organize everything through Facebook
>New guy joins group
>Apparently fedora-core atheist
>Before his first session(!) he starts sharing atheist stuff in the group
>Group has two atheists, a deist, an agnostic-atheists, a Jew and a stoner who thought up his own religion when high
>AtheistA asks him politely to stop
>Calls AtheistA names (basically amounting to calling him an undeveloped caveman)
>AtheistB asks him to stop less politely
>Fedora calls AtheistB names
>Jew steps in, tells him to please stop for the love of all that is good and decent
>Keeps going
>Stoner gets pissed
>Trolls the fuck out of fedora with his fake religion, pisses fedora off by making it look like fedora takes his religion more serious than himself
>Fedora leaves group
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>Fedora spreads rumours about our group
>Everyone who he has ever pissed off approves of our group for trolling him
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>Rest of the group pays for Stoner's pizza next session

Closest thing I've had to a that guy.

>>51753537
>>51753595
Agreed, it seems like 'that guy' was just the biggest autist in a room full of autists.

>>51755130
>'m honestly not sure if it was I or the DM that was that guy in this situation
Both
He's a dick for not assigning an XP value to an encounter as a whole and just giving it to you regardless of whatever way you guys solve it.
You're a dick for possibly ruining the experience of your party members. Best method would have been just to discuss it openly with the rest of the group then switch angles should GM not agree.

>>51755992
Yep. Both GM and party have to be responsible for their own shit but if something has already gone and passed then it should just be rolled with.

>>51758019
Yeah, but I like his elaborations. They fill out the blanks and gives me a greater understanding of the dynamics in his group - an understanding I wish I could have grasped from his original post.

>>51758194
There was just something about the whole situation that reminded me of the charlotte dilemma.

>>51758273
Yeah that was the vibe I was getting after your last response. It's a shame that his character will remain bland forever.

While I wasn't there for the game, I got to watch That Guy before and after a game as well as his effect on a DM

>Start a new job, assistant manager is setting up a DnD game
>Finds 5 people and sits down with each to work out their characters and customise the game around us
>a week before, find out I have to work a late shift and have to bow out
>That Guy overhears me say this to DM and wants in
>That Guy is also That Guy of our project, picking fights with our clients over the most petty reasons and seemed to take pleasure from it
>Claims that he has played DnD loads of times,wanting to go in blind
>DM is worried but decides to give him a shot
>Game day rolls around, That Guy doesn't have sheet ready and has no idea how to fill out sheet. Another player helps him and argues with him on how stats work.
>Game starts half way through my shift. DM is excited.
>Game lasts about 3 hours, past room at one point and see player who help That Guy make his sheet screaming at someone. I wonder who?
>Game ends around the same time as my shift and DM comes back to drop off his stuff
>"How did it go?" "We never left the first town"
>That Guy fought group at every step. Gave people shit over their sheets, tried to change his sheet on the fly with choices that made no sense. Wanted to play as a girl to "fuck all the bastards and steal their shit". Told no when he ask how could he rape the Dwarf in the party.
>He made a Rouge but seem to be built as a warrior. Kept insisting that he should have a longsword.
>Game starts, He went straight for robbing a noble house to frame the party, managed to botch all of his rolls, just decides to break and stab everything in sight which goes south fast
>City guards and the rest of the party arrive, That Guy demands help, gets angry with group for "rigged bullshit"
> Argues until people give up
>Next day, That Guys comes in bragging about how great he was and how he was the life of the game
>DM didn't run another office game again

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>>51761005
Fuck that guy.

>>51753595
I WILL GLADLY PAY YOU TUESDAY FOR A HAMBURGER TODAY

>>51753665
God works in mysterious ways.

42 of them.

>>51751524
>I'll contribute, posted this a few times before so it might be old, but whatevs.
Nah it's still a good example of the That Guy. Still fresh

>>51751407
Kind of dull, but:
>travelling in NY, see a flier
>decide to show up at a local store for a game night
>the outside is nice, clearly expensive decoration, inside is clean, wood and stuff like a hip restaurant
>store guy seems nice
>the players arrive and settle down, three quarters have dyed hair, all are tattooed in notable and noticeable places.
>GM is really fucking nasal
>We sit down and get ready, some jokes are tossed around that I don't understand at all. Political figures, local people, who are they talking about?
>GM makes an announcement.
>Talking about respect and how he wants us to announce our character's 'gender' (sex 'not required'), and triggers, and to pass him some little yellow card if they disagree with the story?
>An odd intro, but I guess it's always this way in public game nights.
>We start playing
>Everything is super narrative, dice rolls help 'decide' story elements more than they do statistics
>This was years ago, but the system was a sort of modified D&D or something. It was definitely dungeon crawling.
>I'm confused, this is nothing like the D&D and avalon hill games i played with my friend group at home.
>Crack some stupid joke at the table while we're about to enter in combat with a shapeshifter who was taunting us to fight
>Said it should shapeshift into a babe or something, then i'd 'fight' it all night
>Was getting along great until this point
>Get called sexist by some fat lady down the table
>They break character and start discussing how bad my "infraction" was
>They end up docking my character's xP for this
>I feel like a dick
>Until "she" joins in
>Fucking six two, overweight, 'septum' ring, fishnets, everything
>Sees my red infraction card
>"What'd he get it for?"
>They explain, 'she' gets huffy
>"Hey, asshole, I'm trans you know. We can't all be quote unquote babes, acting like the whole game needs to fit your stupid standards blah blah..."
>This was getting too confrontational, so I left and didn't come back.

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>>51762271

>>51761005
I will never understand how some GMs tolerate this crap.
At least not if it becomes an issue.
I establish the rules at the beginning, one of which is that a few moments, I will arbitrate any disagreement with a decision, and we move on.
Never let a game degenerate into a crawl because someone wants to argue.
If my decision gets proven wrong after the session, I make up for it next session.

>>51762271
>"she"

sounds like you're the That Guy

>>51751456
Never even once encountered a Drizzt clone. Pretty sure they don't actually exist and are just made up by anons for greentext stories.

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>>51762514
Back to tumblr, knave.

>>51762271
Your post just literally raped me.

>>51763341
If you were a group-hopper several years ago or played pick-up one shots with acquaintances, etc they were everywhere. I think any DM worth their salt keeps them off limits nowadays, though. For good reason.

>>51762271
>'septum' ring
What? That's just what it's called.

>>51751407
I found another That GM story, check it out over here: >>51766195

I keep waiting to see my roommate and I talked about in one of these threads. While we don't think we're "those guys," half the party doesn't really like us, and we and one more person are the other half.

The main issue is the people we're playing with have this world that they've made over the course of 3-4 years and the campaign revolves around issues and situations only half of the party has been a part of. As the outsider-half of the party, none of us can really connect.

We also had to reroll characters so we didn't start up PVP with the rest of the party. We decided to do a mechanically viable gimmick (5e) so the party wouldn't lose out on the combat ability that we granted them before.

We're playing two kobolds in a trenchcoat with maxed Dex, Crossbow Expert, and Sharpshooter as a fighter and a ranger. In our first combat encounter we put out so much damage the party now refers to us as powergamers.

>>51753665
>Also CCG players seem to be scum in general.
>>51755279
>but I swear people that play TCGs are some of the worst for some reason.

I hate to promote stereotypes, but that's been my experience as well.
I played Magic professionally and I never met more disgusting people. Not even just physically, but liars, cheaters, and thieves. People who would take pride in scamming little kids and just fucking over anyone they can for any little gain.
I'm not at all saying all CCG players are like that. There are some fantastic people who play too. But the bottom feeders in CCGs are SO much worse.

>>51757801
Sometimes it happens. I've played with groups so incredibly bad at mechanics that they've accused someone who took Skill Focus: Engineering as their first level feat of power gaming in d20 Modern, since their character was literally an engineer.

If you had any level of competency or, hell, even knew how to add up the numbers on your character sheet, you broke their curve.

>>51766968
You think they're bad? CMG players are a million times worse, just far less common.

Heroclix players are the cancer that cancer fears. Luckily, no one plays.

>>51751407
I was that guy.

An immature little shit who had been run through special ed and had no social skills gets to college and joins the local college group.

Immediately creeps(unintentionally not that it fucking matters to anyone) on the lone female of the group who is the DM's sister or girlfriend or something (I was too dumb about social stuff to even know which.)

3 sessions in and they change the location of their weekly meet without telling me and I never saw any of them again.

I still think back and cringe so fucking hard, and experiences like that meant I never got any of the social experience I was lacking- I'd probably creep everyone out just in a different way if I tried again today. I'm still a fucking shut-in.

Moral of the story, if you are a parent and one of the fucks at your school starts talking shrink shit, you take that child out of that school on the spot. Don't let them ruin your kid the way they ruined me.

>>51767077
Ouch... sorry to hear that dubs: hope you got better now

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>>51755868
Once fate has happened, it can't be changed, Hayato.

>>51755868
You did it OP
you broke me
I've read hundreds of these stories and yours is just so stupid it made me actually say "what the fuck".

>>51753479
HURR DURR ITS WHAT MY CHARACTER WOULD DO BRO

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>>51767231
>Why would that character do that?
>HURR DURR ITS WHAT MY CHARACTER WOULD DO BRO
>Well, why is that what the character would do, bro?

>>51763341
Their popularity has waned along with Drizzt's.

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>>51751456
>>51751407

Dude, this is copypasta. I've read it on here before.

>>51756559
Jesus christ. Never offer anybody advice or help ever again. You're possibly a sociopath.

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I have two stories; both are pretty tame and are, fortunately, the worst things that happened to me in PnP. There is a third story but it's long and I was That Guy in it, would share if people are interested.

>My very first game of DnD
>Be slav and the only person among friends to speak fluent English
>Find out about DnD from a gaming magazine, don't have rulebooks in slavlands so literally carbon copy the rules from Icewind Dale 2
>A months passes without issues, we play after the school is over in an empty classroom
>A new guy joins in, a friend of a friend
>2 years older than all of us, kinda unkempt and nasty, with a bad rep for weed and creeping on girls but seems chill in person
>Introduce two drow sister mages as BBEG's lieutenants
>Want to make them into sympathetic, comic relief style antagonists, think Team Rocket
>Fuck up - players end up killing one of them in the first session
>Oh well, shit happens. Immediately start thinking on how to incorporate it into the game and make the remaining sister a serious, revenge-driven villain
>As I am about to continue onto the next scene, the new guy grin and asks me "what about the girl?"
>"Ehm what about her?"
>"What are we going to do with her?"
>Slowly, nervously explain she's dead, thinking that I don't like where this is going
>He grins and starts slowly, in great detail describing how he undresses and rapes the girl's corpse
>Other players just stare at him and giggle as dumb teenagers
>nervous_laughter.jpeg
>I try to ask him to stop and continue on but he actually describes how he hauls the corpse with him and "uses" it regularly
>Don't touch PnP for 4 years, until I go to uni

Half my group is that-guys.

The pervert playing a female character just to describe how sexy she is. Also a drug addict who sneaks out to the carpark like he thinks he's really subtle.

A loud memester whose obnoxious cleric dominates every interaction because he doesn't think before he speaks.

A too quiet gm whose campaign setting is basically "orcs are raping people, stop them".

Tempted to join a different group at the same store, but the only reasonable group has at least one legit metagaming min maxing autist in it and is full anyway.

local PFS is no better, more obnoxious game ruining clerics.

Maybe I should just kill my character, remake him as patches from dark souls, and enjoy myself.

>>51767573
I want to hear about the time you were that guy.

>>51767573
The other one is less extreme but was also fairly unpleasant

>Play Curse of Strahd
>Roll up a human wizard - a pessimistic yet well-meaning kind of guy, built like a typical "god wizard"
>He is not extremely pacifistic but does prefer to seek alternative solutions to combat whenever possible
>The group is a monk of a death god whose gimmick is masochism and persuading others to try it, Dwarf McDwarfsson neutral good cleric of a sun god a "lol so random xD" halfling warrior and two other bricks who are irrelevant
>Few early encounters pass without too much trouble, except the Cleric apparently thinks himself the leader of the group and tries to unilaterally make decisions for everyone
>I tend to butt in IC if I think they are stupid. He usually completely ignores it and just sighs in exasperation, earning chuckles of the rest of the group
>First red flag for me
>Get to the first town, I manage to get the group in by pretending I am a famed circus magician and the others are my entourage
>Cleric immediately picks up a "quest" from a local temple
>Ashes of a local saint, which were protecting the town, got stolen
>Trace the culprit to a servant boy, who is scared shitless, desperate and only did it to feed his starving family
>Cleric goes full Judge Dredd on the little guy, cursing him and swearing that he will be punished for this treason - perhaps with death
>IC reason that the guy's just a victim of the circumstances and a hapless pawn; OOC remind the guy that he is NG, for what it's worth
>"lol my religion HATES anyone who even THINKS of betraying them and all those who help them" - which is said very meaningfully with a meaningful wink to his companions
>In any event, the boy's fate is postponed and we are looking for the real culprit
>Use scy magic to figure out who he is and that he is, similarly, but a scared, intimidated executor
>Assume we can try to reason with him
>Cleric - and now his friends too - start mocking me OOC when I turn aside (cont)

>>51755112
Lorazepam has helped me out of many a similar pickle, anon. Maybe your friend should consider meds?

>>51767650
>Get pissed and simply try to call out to the soon-to-be-killed perpetrator, asking him for parley and guaranteeing his safety
>GM rules that he can't hear me (despite sitting near the window right above where I was standing) and all my messaging magic somehow fails to work (bad reception I guess?)
>Others proceed to ignore me, telling me to "go stand there like a retard if I want to" and rush into the building
>GM springs ghouls at them, whom I should have, RAW, noticed with my divination, but at this point I no longer care
>Wait until the end of the session and drop the game

I am not sure if I also was at fault - if my, I believe, reasonable behaviour went against what mostly Good and Lawful group believed, maybe I was the odd one out.

>>51767595
Sure, this may take a bit.

>>51767699
And about when I was That Guy

>I just ended my campaign, of my long term players wants to GM
>He's completely new to GMing
>Don't think the game will run too long, make a light-hearted character
>Make a Kensai Magus (we were playing PF) whom I straight ripped off Virgil in DMC, except he wore a blue poncho instead of a coat and was less edgy/more showoffy
>Try to do all sorts of crazy stuff in combat, vividly describe the stunts I pull, teleport behind people, unsheathe katana, nothing personnel etc
>Everyone is having a ball with my character (whose name was Jacob Bruce)
>The GM obviously pushes me as the "main character" - gives me an OP magical, intelligent katana belonging to a death god
>As the game progresses, fun starts to fade
>GM wants us squarely on his railroad, running errands for gods of his setting - which were the most petty, unlikeable, patronising irritating shits I ever saw, and not even in a greek god way
>I am just relaxing and having fun minmaxing a PF character for once, so I roll along, but other players start to grumble

(cont)

>>51767699
It was a group of that guys. At least from what I read from your perspective, I would've dropped them too

>be me
>playing some werewolves game
>we start at a house somewhere at NY
>DM told us we had to go for some meeting at Central Park
>One of us go out the house
>Police start attacking him because I was in wolf shape
>I never change myself to wolf shape
>I never went out of the house
>We explain to DM
>He cares nothing
>Friend almost died because DM wanted ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>51767737
>In addition to irritating, railroady gods, some other unfun shit starts to happen
>When our tank starts to get ridiculously insane AC, suddenly all enemies switch exclusively to touch attacks
>Then our paladin/oracle starts using minmaxed heals to pretty much ignore all the damage - naturally, all enemies now deal touch ability drain
>And I mean all of them
>He also introduces a BBEG, whom he pushes as my personal rival (and I gladly play along) and pushes way too hard
>At a certain point we are supposed to protect a city from an attack by a swarm of fire elementals, who were summoned by the BBEG in an attempt to release a minor god of fire
>He gives us time to prepare, we all buy fire resist potions, our oracle manages to rally a battalion of archers and I find an old scroll capable of summoning rain in a mage tower
>The fight begins
>The rain deals 1d3 damage per round
>Archers die in the first turn via a fireball from the yet unsummoned fire god
>Elementals have 250+ hp (at level 7), attack in swarms of 10, deal touch damage which is also "blue fire" - and thus completely ignores fire res
>Two players die
>I decide that the group has put up with enough shit and it's time to show the GM exactly why pathfinder sucks and why I kept referring to Jacob as "sick filth"

(cont)

>>51767783
go on

I'm curious as to how this plays out

>>51767783
Waitforit.webm

>>51758283
It's worse than that, brown elves are savages without technology that live in the woods, black elves are evil sadistic fucks that love spiders.

Can say that I was probably that guy a couple times
>first campaign was in a school club, because of the size it ended up pretty murderhobo-y, ended up taking up a bit too much time to get a pet parrot and later killed another PC tied up by pirates, thought they'd leave them on the shore while boarding. Took out like 7 with that alchemist fire though. I was alone on deck.
>didn't know too much about RP for the next one, ended up being that guy in a "I wrote a weak character but couldn't tell until now that I have to interact," not much character.

latest one was better, was able to actually say I had minor grievances about some and I guess that means I'm doing better, no That Guys really though.
>halfling bard, been playing for like 20 years
>dragonborn cleric, friend of DM, put on a weird upward inflection on what she said IC but took bullshit well
>half-elf warlock, not great at RP but I'd say he tried, was rather new
>Tiefling fighter, dead-serious mercenary type but it worked
>me, human sorc, bureaucratic and bothered by the unpredictable magic he has
three that might count but weren't around long enough to tell
>probably-going-to-be-drizzt drow ranger, work schedule kept him from continuing
>2 kobolds that left after session 1

>>51767783
Now let me introduce you to Jacob Bruce and the kind of campaign we were running.

https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=305051

This was a Mythic rules pathfinder game. To summarise the above sheet to people unwilling to touch PF with a 10ft pole, I could have pretty much cast ANY spell on the wizard spell list at will several times per day, attacked 4 to 7 times per round dealing insane damage and unleashing several maximised empowered shocking grasps (channeling electricity through the blade) and had some specific anti-cater feats. Jacob was as broken as a skullclamp.

So, moving on:
>Me and the oracle stand our ground and fight the elementals
>My AC is actually touch AC, so I barely get hit while reliably killing one of them per round w/o many spells
>Whatever damage is dealt, a sanctuaried oracle heals
>We pretty much duo everything the GM throws at us
>he starts to sound frustrated
>THUNDER ROARS!
>with a ""heh" "slow clap"", in a burst of flame, the fire god appears
>He is about to start his gloating speech
>das it mane
>Calmly interrupt the GM and announce that I roll initiative and attack on spot
>He gets really annoyed but allows it
>Push in all my attacks
>Use two of my 3 spell slots to maximising empowered frigid touch him
>Unleash extra attacks via hero points and mythic points
>Deal upwards of 350 damage
>The GM is silent
>After a minute of silence, he starts narrating the Godling's turn
>"He...takes a step back and starts casting...."
>Interrupt him - "I Step-up-and-Strike, using and extra attack of opportunity for his spellcasting, if he fails the check"
>Deal some extra 70 damage
>The GM inhales and calls the session over
>In a private conversation later, he admits that I killed the big bad within the first turn and had some damage left over

(cont)

>>51767573
Should have asked him to roll to see if he contracted the Drow AIDS she has.

>>51751407
>Join university role playing club
>they're running a multi-group simultaneous, overlapping story thing with a rules-light system to get new people into role playing.
>most people make reasonable characters, like a bloke with a flamethrower, a werewolf, a psychic, a telekine, etc.
>one girl (a fat, neon hair woman who just so happens to be a friend of the 'head' GM and also does the artwork for the clubs newsletter) makes a fox-fairy spirit who can run like the flash, teleport, and phasenthrough solid objects.
>despite objections from a lot of people this is brushed off as "rules legal" (somehow)
>Repeatedly hogs the attention of the GM in every game (groups switched up week by week), is obnoxiously loud even when she herself yells at other people for being too loud, repeatedly accuses players of misogyny when literally none of the other women in the games complain, and is generally annoying.

same game as above
>Fat neck beard type makes a telekine who can teleport
>is baklanced in comparison to others so no complaint yet
>last game of the campaign
>he teleports from his section of the final battle to mine (he joined our table)
>He dropped a WW2 bomb on my character's head, which the GM ruled I couldn't burn fate to survive, and so I died halfway through and ended up sitting around for the next hour to see how it all turned out
>ask this guy "Dude, what the fuck?!"
>actual response: "Ha, LoL"

>>51767863
>Beginning of the next session he throws me a bone and allows me to "kill" the godling
>only to say that "it was but a jest!" and the real godling was laughing at us while standing at the nearby rampart all along
>Remind the GM that I have just enough resources to pull at least one or two more turns as I just did
>The godling says "I will get you next time Gadget" and vanishes.

>The game proceeds on, but becomes extremely confrontational and unfun
>He keeps throwing the strongest shit he can find at us
> I suggest that we just shift gears a bit and have some sidequests or change the directions of the campaign
> He refuses because "he has the story all planned out!" and "you're just being unreasonable - everyone's having fun!"
>All players even approach him in person and try to explain their gripes with the game
>He gets passive aggressive, agrees to change it, in fact changes nothing
> I keep solving encounter after encounter, without roleplaying, without having fun, just to end it quickly
>In such an emotionless way we manage to blunder to the last boss, whom the GM obviously rushed as he was having less and less fun as we went along

>Traps me in the "Shadow Realm" and forces me to "battle my demons" by subduing the ancient god inside my blade (read - literally throwing dice against a 50+ DC every turn until I succeed). All my attempts to roleplay an advantage are meaningless - it's just that, throw dice until you succeed.
>Eventually succeed
>With the half dead group, who were forced to fight his CR 20 BBEG without my firepower, we barely kill the guy
>The campaign is almost over
>All the gods are summoned to congratulate us on our victory

I put on my fedora and prepare to end it

(cont)

>Roll up character for a new 2E AD&D adventure in an asian world
>Don't know shit about the setting, get filled in during the process of making a character by the DM
>Roll fairly disappointing stats because I can't seem to convince anyone rolling for stats is shit to begin with
>Don't meet the requirements for most classes, decide to be a spellcaster
>Notice some sort of hairy not!Dwarven race that looks interesting and doesn't have any requirements
>DM tells me there's a lot of potential for fun roleplay there.
>"It's definitely something I would want to play."
>OK, Koro-pok-guru Wu Jen it is.
>Find out while finishing up the character that I technically have zero status and honor.
>"It'll be fine," the DM assures me.

Then the actual game began and the Not!Japanese filthy gaijin xenophobia got dialed to 11.

>Can't enter Not!Japanese establishments
>Can't purchase shit
>The adventure turns out to have a strong political component, but 99% of the population is insulted at the notion of having to communicate with my unclean race
>Party gets into the spirit of the thing and orders my character around like a talking pack animal
>Beats him into the negatives for every 'insult'

I retired the character after three or four sessions. It just wasn't working. The DM went:

>It looks like you haven't accumulated enough honor points to warrant a bonus on your next character's stats. Though... your character didn't technically die, so I'm not sure you would receive those anyway. Better luck next time!

>>51767877
Or

A succubus magically telepaths into his head your derisive insults because she's impressed with his ambition but disgusted by his motives. Then just use it to call him a disgusting pervert who doesn't want other people to have fun.

>>51767937
So basically you played for three or four sessions with a group of complete autists?

Why?

I hope that was the end.

>>51767931
>Loudly interrupt the gods by smashing my OG katana, the one from the very beginning of the game, at the altar they were convoked near
>Declare that their actions are unjust and selfish, that they abuse the common man and that their reign of terror is over
>"YOU ARE NO LONGER GODS! MAN - NEEDS - NO - GODS!"
>Continue throwing abuse, recounting all the shit they've done to us
>Announce that Jacob will continue wandering the lands in search of power and a worthy opponent and if I ever see their divine shit again, I will fuck them up
>The GM's obviously had it with me
>Force me to roll reflex against divine fireballs and lightning that would instakill me
>Succeed
>Collapses the floor under me and makes me fall 200 feet
>Use acrobatics to jump onto the falling rubble
>thispartysgettingcrazy.avi
>use hero points to cut some of the larger stones into bits with my superiour, folded-1000-times katana
>Land, get hit by a few more spells
>The GM grins as now he's finally got me
>I show him my sheet and damage calculations
>I still have 3 hp left
>the oracle throws me a full heal, damage prevention and buff
>the gm tries to announce her divine powers null and void
>use my last points to cast and prolong expedited retreat and run the fuck away

In the end the GM had no experience, guts or willpower left to end Jacob Bruce. I am sure he started the game with good intentions - and he is actually a pretty decent, if fairly inflexible and PF-obsessed, player - but his inexperience, pride and failure to comprehend how exactly broken PF is were his undoing.

The end

>>51767581
>remake him as Patches
Do it

>>51767940
>>51767877
Sure, I should have. But bear in mind that I was 14 and that was literally my first ever campaign of DND - and I had to gm it as well. Nowadays I would have immediately gave him an OOC ultimatum the second he started licking his lips in anticipation.

>>51768006
Eh the story ended okay, but the autismal rant about pathfinder at the end made me cringe.

Next time try ending it with "pretty sure I broke his will to chase me, we still don't talk about that campaign."

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>>51768006
UN-FUCKIN'-BELIEVABLE

That's a success in MY books!

>>51767937
Were you the guy who had to make your Korobukuru old to get enough INT to actually play a Wu Jen?

>comes up with character concept so out-there I have to make new rules to accomodate it
>insists on weighing up every available option on their turn in combat, not in terms of what the party needs but in terms of what lets That Guy roll the highest numbers, demanding an explanation of the rules surrounding each option
>and I mean like, "what do the Guns and Spells stats let me use?" Guns and Spells respectively, dickhead.
>complains the game is too complicated

>>51768017
Tempted to at least pull the voice out from time to time.

>>51767968
Nah, I rolled up a Not!Japanese Wu Jen because my new rolled stats weren't sufficient for any of the interesting classes start out with a bit of Honor again.

The party tried to treat him similarly, but at least his social status didn't warrant murder at every sign of disobedience.

This second mage grew cantankerous as fuck before I had him drown on purpose. That story isn't as aggravating as the first, though.

>We need to ford a river
>We've done it before elsewhere without any hassle, but this river is just a tad deeper
>The party wades in, makes its checks, bingo-bango
>I describe the mage stripping down to his loincloth and packing all of his belongings into a wrapped parcel he can hold over his head, safe and dry. Didn't want to risk having the DM tell me my spellbook/scroll sustained water damage
>Fuck up a DEX check halfway and drop everything into the river
>It floats downstream and I fuck up my Swim checks too, nearly drowning.
>The party is guffawing about the spectacle on the other side of the river.
>Eventually, someone walks over to help drag me out of the water.
>So there I am. Cold and wet. Just a loincloth on. No shoes. No spellbook. No supplies. No tools. Nothing.

>>>

>>51768036
It wasn't necessarily necessary to play a lvl 1 Wu Jen, but not doing so would have really limited me down the road. I still thought the character would have a future back then.

>>51768065
Continued.

>I get handed someone else's spare kimono and told "We're not turning around. You're going to have to go barefoot."
>-"We're heading into the mountains. It's going to be steep, rough and cold."
>"Tough shit."
>-"I've lost my spellbook. I can't do the one thing I'm supposedly good at."
>"You still have that one spell memorized."
>-"It requires components that washed away."
>"Well that's not our problem."
>-"My food and water are gone. Do you have any to share?"
>"Fuck no. Head back to the last town to get supplies. Alone."
>-"All my money is gone and the road's pretty dangerous for an unarmed, half-naked mage without spells."
>"Well, that's not our problem. We have places to be."

I walked back into the river and just let Asian Jesus take me.

Rolled up a new set of stats. Ended up with a one three, but otherwise fairly OK stats. I'm going to attempt a supremely uncharismatic martial artist next.

>>51768054
You'd be doing god's work anon.

>>51768082
Your group sounds incredibly cancerous

>>51768091
It depends on how the next session goes. I have plans for my character now that I know the group and what to expect from them. Probably going to turn my rogue assassin into a parity obsessed lateral thinker.

The thing is I've developed a habit of stabbing bosses with my rapier and disengaging, so I can just "accidentally" get killed in melee some time soon and reroll a half orc barbarian who pretends to be a druid by bashing things on the head with a maul after "casting" sleep spells.

If you can't beat the murder hobos just join them.

>>51768025
We do though. In the end, there was almost no hard feelings (although next few games we played he actually enlisted a third party to vet my characters).

To understand why I sound so hateful about PF (which as you can see from my story I did play and could enjoy until a certain point) you need to know that GM. PF is his first - and the only - system and he remains adamant in his belief that it can do no evil. Before that he played in my PF game, which was extremely different from RAW PF because I use Epic 7 rules and heavily vet characters to shelter everyone from people like me.

>>51767077
Great advice! I prefer complete soul destruction with a side of face melting.

I literally told my child's teacher, principal, and counselor to shut the fuck up.

My daughter was struggling in the 3rd grade because she had gone to a shitty school before we moved. She barely passed the 3rd grade so we held her back a year to catch up. her teacher who was always trying to get us to medicate our child for being a child; meant well but was an ignorant cunt.

3rd grade part II, She does pretty well.

I Get told I need to attend an important conference... I gather my evidence because I know what's coming. Cunty teacher was talking shit...

I gather some documentation and prepare.

I arrive, get checked in and am escorted into the principal's office where they are preparing to try to gangbang me for the "good" of my child.

It starts with "Your Child has ADD or ADHD and her grades suck and she might not pass state testing and be held back."

I casually pull out current and last year's grades showing vast improvement(3.5 average vs 2.0) and hand to her teacher "Her grades have improved this time around, I don't understand why you would say they are bad. This is your doing, she's improved because of your help".

I present professional medical evaluations and give them to the counselor and say "I did have my child evaluated by both a medical professional and a mental health specialist, you are neither."

The last piece was the PASS notice from high stakes testing last year. "She did pass state testing last year, we held her back by choice....even if she botched it this year, social promotion means no matter what she's moving on. The real question is Where was this concern LAST year? " I Pointed to previous year's grades.

I smiled sweetly, stood and K.O'd with.

"You dumb clucking hens let some cunt talk shit about my kid and wasted my time. Go fuck yourselves".

Checked my kid out for the day and we had ice cream.

>Spending the night in the walled garden of an old, decrepit Not!Buddhist temple.
>Only one old hermit still appeared to live there.
>Mostly sat around chanting, didn't seem to give a shit about anything. Pretty zen.
>We need to make a campfire.
>"Why don't we smash up some of the benches in that temple? No one is using them anyway."
>The party Not!Buddhist priest goes: "Don't you dare. They're sacred. This is a sacred place."
>"Aren't they just things, though?"
>I ask for some OOC clarification: "Are you really supposed to value material items this much, as a Not!Buddhist? Keep in mind, they're just some random wooden benches in a decrepit temple you don't even really know."
>-"We're not burning the benches."
>The party heads out to the surrounding forest to gather firewood. The complete absence of any aggregate survival skill in the party means they return with some twigs and moist, mouldy fallen branches at best.
>I stay behind to watch our stuff. The weird hermit is still around, after all.
>About an hour later, the party returns to a comfortable campfire. Made out of smashed benches.
>The Not!Buddhist priest beats my character into the negatives.

>>51768127
Whatever you decide to do I hope you have fun with it anon. Though I'm definitely pulling for patches.

>>51768154
Some day. When I don't have to roll for stats and know enough about the system (5e) to min-max him as a cleric pvp'er.

>>51768145
>"You dumb clucking hens let some cunt talk shit about my kid and wasted my time. Go fuck yourselves".

Public school I gather?

That should have burned some bridges otherwise.

>>51768152
>And he still warmed himself by the fire.

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>>51768145
>mfw

>>51768152
*tips fedora*

You sure owned that dumb theist. I bet the whole party applauded, and the old hermit's name was Albert Einstein

>>51768204
Did you not read the thread?

I think that's the same guy with the Not!Japanese crew, y'know, the party that beat him into negatives for trying to play the game like obsessive weeaboo autists?

>>51768145
>"You dumb clucking hens let some cunt talk shit about my kid and wasted my time. Go fuck yourselves".
>Checked my kid out for the day and we had ice cream.

And then everyone applauded, and i homeschooled my kid

>>51768220
>please respect a sacred place
>excuse me, why should i respect a sacred place, isn't the point of ascetism you don't give a shit, makes u think

>>51768204
It has nothing to do with atheism. The character burning the benches was just as religious as the rest of the country.

>>51768152
Should've left some money to pay for the benches.

>>51768232
I can do that too!

>Wow what a fedora tipping autist why is he so autistic jesus loves all but fedora autists are the exception
>Friend you seem to have misspoken, I believe he was antagonising the characters in a party who were unreasonably cruel to him and his character because they don't understand the game
>What? No clearly it has to be this thing I'm obsessed with.

Couldn't have just been that he had a legitimate point of contention for roleplay that was totally ignored by a party of lolsorandumbs. Nope. Has to be the fedora thing doesn't it?

>>51768232
Not everything is supposed to be a euphoric statement.

It's a reasonable point to make if you're talking about some form of Not!Buddhism. The priest had literally taken a vow of poverty and wasn't allowed to own much more than the clothes on his back and a begging bowl.

>>51753537
uhm fuck him and fuck you too you entitled piece of shit? get some fucking dollars in your pocket before you go out to a gaming session. It's called being considerate because if you don't have enough sense to put together two dollars for a couple slices of pizza, why should I, the DM who literally created the entire world you are playing in, have to also pay for you to sustain your bodily functions? I feel absolutely no guilt eating in front of someone who thinks they deserve my shit

>>51754539
Maybe I was just raised right but the idea of eating while someone at the table is not is uncomfortable. The idea of denying someone food while I eat is disgusting.
OP's gm should have let the dickhead eat then thrown him out or refused to ever have him around again.
But to deny him food while you stuff your own face....

>>51768291
It's called 'having people over' and 'being a decent host'.

Everyone I game with has the sense to bring snacks or money for food because feeding an entire gaming group on the regular would be pretty pricey. But if a newcomer isn't aware of this, you can be damn sure I'll supply him with food and drink until he catches on to how the group works.

>>51768295
that's literally not called being raised right. that's called being conditioned to believe that others are entitled to what you have regardless of whether they would do the same for you. You sir were raised to be broke. Keep letting people take things from you, as they keep what they have for them self.

>>51768313
No. Typically guests are expected to bring gifts to the host. I don't know what backwards autist culture youve been raised in

>>51768295
No. You were raised normally. Don't try and pull that shit. Treating family like that is not good. Treating friends like that is not good.

Treating some guy you just met whose only mission in life seems to be to take what he can and annoy the shit out of everyone like that?

That's understandable.

>>51768324
>being this selfish
No wonder the world is going to shit

Are all of these people arguing over pizza?

>>51768082
Anon...
This group doesn't want to play with you
They won't say it to your face, but they wish you wouldn't show up

Stop playing with that group

>>51768332
>anyone of a different culture from mine is an autist
Gotcha

>>51768345
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>>51768337
(You) done yet?

>>51751407

>I am DMing a game
>No one in my group has ever played a table top rpg
>I teach them how to play
>they love it
>we play for months
>no one ever downloads the rulebook
>no one ever reads the rulebook
>everyone uses me as Google instead of literally googling questions about spells and combat
>i try to be a patient and kind DM and explain everything slowly and multiple times
>group enjoys playing but i have become exhausted
>i think i have become that which i have always hated... that guy
>feelsbadman.jpg

>>51768313
This.

I cook for my friends when they come over, if someone complains about having to share take-out I have zero sympathy.

On the other hand, there's also such a thing as being a gracious guest. A guest shouldn't have to throw a tantrum in order to get food, but they shouldn't throw a tantrum period. This whole situation was dicks on dicks.

>>51768145
This reminds me of when my friend had a similar issue with her kid.
Her daughter was very bright and very energetic.
She would finish her classwork in class, get bored while everyone else was still working quietly, and start distracting others by talking, joking, fidgeting, whatever.
This was admittedly inappropriate behavior.
My friend’s suggestion?
Give her more damn classwork. Load her up. Doesn’t matter if it’s repetitive. Make her work or read or something.
The school’s solution?
Make her sit alone in class during recess as punishment for acting up in class where she wasn’t allowed to do classwork, read, or do anything.
So, she still has nothing to do for half the class, but now she has loads of boredom and pent up energy that was usually spent at recess.
The school was very disappointed that the behavior got worse for some reason.
My friend explained the situation to the school and how they were being frustratingly stupid.
They disagreed.
And she didn’t tell them to go fuck themselves or take her out of school.
She just explained the situation to her daughter and how the school was being frustratingly stupid.
Daughter learns that people are stupid and annoying and can frustrate your life and you sometimes have to just put up with it until you can get away from them.

Although I actually do think they went out for ice cream.

>>51768348
>>51768337
>>51768313
this person is that guy and is desperately trying to derail this thread because he has become terribly butthurt

so lets continue with fun stories about people just like this person

>>51768356
You aren't a bad person for not wanting to be used this way.

They aren't bad people either, just lazy as fuck. Find a new group.

>>51768347
How do you ask a group of people whether they'd prefer if you stay at home?

You know they're just going to deny it to save face.

>>51768356
This used to be me
I started skipping players turns and let monsters get free hits in
>oh, you don't know what to roll for your attack despite me telling you how to for 4 hours last week?
>your character stands still, not really doing much despite the obvious threat

>>51768324
>believe that others are entitled to what you have regardless of whether they would do the same for you

That's pretty much exactly what the bible says dude.

>"do unto others"
>"love thine enemy as thy friend"
>"turn the other cheek"
>"if a man would take your cloak, do not withold your shirt also"

>>51768368
This is a much more believable story than someone who clearly just wanted to use the word cunt.

>>51768354
No

>>51768401
There's a reason the Bible is becoming less popular.

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>>51768291
>entitled piece of shit
>why should I, the DM who literally created the entire world you are playing in, have to also pay for you to sustain your bodily functions?
Heh

>>51768393
You don't say shit to them
Cut contact, stop replying to their calls or messages

They don't want you around, so fuck em. Don't give them the pleasure of telling you to fuck off

>>51768401
Says the nigga claiming he's better than everybody because he believes he's no better than anybody else.

>Maybe it's just because I was raised right.

Fuck off already you holier than thou faggot.

>>51768412
Yeah, and its not the proto-socialist egalitarian politics that have been buried beneath superstitious patriarchal social control for centuries.

>>51768366
I agree, it's a room full of that guys.

>>51768432
Different person dummy.

>>51768414
you must not have many things of your own huh

>>51768401
>do onto deez nuts
>love deez nuts
>turn the other nut
>okay yung jeezus keep living the righteous path here on /tg/ and 4chan

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>>51768380
You aren't very smart, are you?

>>51768417
It's difficult. I play RPGs with two different groups with the same DM. Each group contains one player from the Not!Japanese group. Neither of these groups displays the same behaviour.

Additionally, I play wargames and boardgames with the DM. *If* the Not!Japanese group wants me gone, I'm not convinced he shares that view. He either doesn't see it, or he's unwilling to rebuke a group of old friends on the one regular get-together they have.

Or they don't specifically want me gone and are just absolute barbarians in social situations.

Either way, cutting all ties is practically impossible.

>>51768464

Screencaps prove nothing. They are easily doctored. If anything it makes me doubt you more.

>>51768464
id say 2 for 3 is pretty good, i can spot an autist 66% of the time

>>51768471
>screencaps prove nothing
>taken from a phone
Oh wow senpai! You definitely outsmarted me!

Oh noe, have all my internet babiez!!!!!!!!!!!

>>51768459
I'm not actually religious at all, just having a poke at the irony of core christian principles of charity and forgiveness being deemed a consequence of bad parenting.

>>51768387
but i really want to finish the campaignnnnn

>>51768475
I think you had a lot of time to practice while looking at the mirror

>>51751407
Story time it is then.

>First PFS game
>The group is some mostly well adjusted people, and a few probable shut-ins
>Two of whom are running kitsune
>Let it not be so.tiff
>Need help creating my character, so agree to join late once the guy whose job it is to help me is finished
>Roll up an alchemist because I want to throw fire at people and transform into a rage machine
>Nobody is worried about actual character stories except for the cleric
>Whose character story is that he's addicted to sex, alcohol, and violence.
>But is lawful good because reasons.
>Don't even bother asking him who his god is.
>Rest of party is either "shy lonely type" or "outgoing type looking to make a name for themselves"
>Decide not to bother with a story
>Jumble some syllables together for my name

cont

>>51768332
No. Typically hosts are expected to accomodate the needs of their guests. I don't know what backwards autist culture youve been raised in

Recently played a game on roll20
>roll20
I should've expected it but the dm was a pretty chill guy who was fun to talk to, the party however was pretty autistic

>be me, playing my fave class to play with a new group
>paladin intensifies
>introductions ensue, we all get along well enough
>except for the fire wizard
>he doesn't say much, but he does attempt to set almost everything on fire
>gets pissed at me for not letting him start a forest fire
>right next to a village
>he contains his fire from this point on, only burning the bad guys
>first session doesn't end too bad
Second session
>almost immediately tries to light the same forest on fire
>tell him he has one more chance before I tie him up and haul him to the guards
>gets incredibly pissy with me, dm tells me to ease up a bit
>session goes ok, no fires break out
>until the end
Keep in mind this was a long session, edging on 6 hours. My time zone didn't match up very well and it was about 2 am for me
>fire cunt tries to set fire to old mansion at edge of town
>sigh
>I roll to grapple
autism.png
>starts literally squealing, dm and other players not sure how to react
>roll a 19 or something, I pass whatever the check was
>successfully tie him up
Or so I thought
>dm rewinds time
>"anon, give fire bitch a chance"
Session ends, dm tells me he'll talk to fire fuckwit
>new session
>I'm about 10 minutes late, traffic getting home from work was shit
>hop on, dm brings me up to speed
>"not much has happened, except the mansion is on fire"
I hung up on Skype and left the group on roll20

I hate spineless dm's and shit cunt players

>>51768414
>it's a "you're not entitled to your own property" episode
As a person who probably would have just shared the pizza that time, I respect the right to not share, especially when in hindsight he was the kind of asshole who needed to be kicked out. Strangers asking for food is only socially appropriate if they're beggars or friendly and polite people who are going to be able to pay back the favor reasonably.

>>51768515
im glad you stay in your parents basement and will never be any where close to me

>>51768467
In that case, say that you're bored of the setting or something. Give an excuse that justifies you leaving the game.

Or you could not be a bitch and confront them on why they treat you like shit

>>51768535
Not him but the feeling is mutual and the relief astounding

>>51768500
>party starts in camp, on a mission to protect a lordling while he hunts big game
>decide to all go hunting with the lordling
>small battle ensues with from memory a tiger and some other animals
>everybody plays their part properly
>Nearly die due to some bad rolls
>Cleric heals me
>Maybe he's not so bad after all?
>Head back to camp
>Find it filled with monkeys
>They're making a nuisance of themselves and stealing things
>ranger basically tells them to pissoff because we're not worth harrassing and we'll be gone in a day or so
>They apparently agree we aren't worth the trouble, drop what they have and run off
cont

>>51768347
>This group doesn't want to play with you
>>51768417
>They don't want you around
I disagree.
They want him around so they have a target to beat down.
I've seen this behavior before.
One "Alpha" seeks to assert themselves and selects someone to degrade to make themselves seem greater.
>the Cleric apparently thinks himself the leader of the group and tries to unilaterally make decisions for everyone

They will steadily insult them, belittle them, and mock them over literally nothing and in ways that make no sense.
>I tend to butt in IC if I think they are stupid. He usually completely ignores it and just sighs in exasperation, earning chuckles of the rest of the group

And yet the group laughs along.
>Cleric - and now his friends too - start mocking me OOC when I turn aside

It often culminates with the entire group confidently and pridefully certain that their deliberate mistreatment of the individual is the proper thing to do, even when it makes no sense.
>"We're not turning around. You're going to have to go barefoot."
>"Head back to the last town to get supplies. Alone."

>>51768082
>>51767650
Why do you continue?

>>51768332
This is partially wrong. Yes, it would be very welcome for guests to bring gifts, but the host is expected to provide food and drinks no matter what happens (unless it's a pot luck or stated otherwise).

It's like inviting people to a birthday party. It's expected that guests would bring presents. But if they don't, you don't deny them food or cake. That would a bad host (in response to a bad guest).

My take on this whole argument is that the game and the gathering are separate issues. Being a bad player shouldn't give the host permission to treat his guests poorly. You provide for your guests no matter what. Guy had no money? As host, you either suck it up (especially because it's just fucking pizza) or ask them to bring their share the next time. On THEIR end of it, they slacker should offer the pay next time around or the slacker's friend should have covered him since he invited the slacker.

>>51768538
Wouldn't it be pretty easy to say
>It's just a game bro, I dunno what you're talking about
and keep on passive-aggressively targeting said player's characters?

It sounds like this would make the player in question look like someone who just wants to start shit.

>>51768567
i think anon is just a nice guy and really enjoys playing so he puts up with the abuse probably because he doesnt have another group right now. i feel for you, anon!

>>51768574
I agree

>>51768082
Why don't you attempt something better and reroll your whole fucking group, seeing as they have no qualms with deceiving and humiliating you? It's evident they regard you as the beta weakling of the bunch, and that won't change just because you're now playing a fist on legs.

Anything is better than being the cum-sock of a gang of autists.

>>51768538
oh no, I'll never get to hang out with some douche who bitches over sharing snacks, how ever shall I cope

How fucking hard is it to front a few pieces of pizza for someone and say "Don't worry, you can pay me back next time" to subtly point out the general expectations re: food?

>>51768593
You suck at distinguishing between two different conversations.

>>51768581
Yeah this might be pretty likely

Best thing to do it leave the group

>>51768582
Finding a new group isn't the hardest thing in the world, just gotta put yourself out there. It's not worth putting up with high school bully tier cunts just to play some tabletop.

>>51768590
This anon is harsh but speaks the truth.
Its not worth putting up with it

>>51768551
>There's mention of a nearby temple containing the relic the pathfinder society sent us to find
>Some shit like that anyway
>Everybody heads out to find the temple
>GM describes it as a large stone structure with stone statues all around it
>Cleric player starts telling the party that he loves this place because it looks divine
>Despite there being no indication as to which god the temple is for
>Red Flag number 1
>Ask why, for above reason
>Says he doesn't care, anything for any god is divine in his character's eyes, as his strongest motivation is the protection of anything divine
>Red Flag number 2 and three, answers genuine questions out of character and makes shit up about his character as he goes
>Start heading inside and see some peasants carrying a large sack that appears to be holding a hard sphere
>Question them as to the interior of the temple
>They say there's a demon in there
>Question them as to the contents of the sack because it may be quest relevant, as we don't know what artifact/relic we're there to find yet
>They refuse to answer
>At this point I say that I threaten to find out via taking the sack off them by force
>Cleric says "no you can't do that we're a good party"
>point out they not only might have our quest objective in the sack, they're quite likely looting the temple based off the fact it's a giant piece of stone statue they're probably hiding in there
>Suddenly doesn't care about the contents of the temple
>More red flags
>Says he doesn't care about that, his character is now incensed and on the war path for any demon daring to desecrate a temple
>More red flags
>Literally contradicted himself a sentence after declaring his character's strongest motivation is the protection of everything divine
>Klaxons in my head at this point

cont

>>51768590
A fist on legs is better-equipped to stand up to other characters than a first-level mage is.

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>>51768479

>>51768605
No, I suck at not accidentally replying to the post directly beneath the post I meant to reply to. Sorry about that.

>>51768622
I'm sure you noticed how long this took you.

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All you cunts arguing about pizza..
The troll is retarded
Responding to the troll makes you retarded

This thread has lots of autism going on

>>51768605
forreal tho

>>51768531
>As a person who probably would have just shared the pizza that time, I respect the right to not share
Absolutely.
What we've seen in the thread is a variety of local customs of hospitality and where the line falls is subjective on how you were raised.

>>it's a "you're not entitled to your own property" episode
No, it's a "let's laugh at the jackass that calls others entitled pieces of shit while being a colossally entitled GM asshat" episode.
I say this as a GM.

>>51768607
>Finding a new group isn't the hardest thing in the world, just gotta put yourself out there.
Working around the schedules of a group of thirty-somethings to do anything is difficult. Adding the challenge of actually finding a group of thirty-somethings that share your niche interest doesn't simplify things.