Are the Outer Gods chaotic evil or chaotic neutral?

Chaotic Lawful and beyond good and evil.

I'm not really sure they have a choice; if they stop playing azathoth wakes up and all of existence ends

>>51736279
I honestly don't know how to classify a braindead singularity in the heart of an orderly chaos.

>>51736320
Isn't that kinda the point?

stop pushing DnD alignments outside of DnD

>>51736279
niether, they have no morals in the mortal understanding, they just are

True neutral

>>51736279
Chaotic Lawful

Chaood Lawvil

Chaotic
good and evil don't apply

>>51736279
Yes.

>>51736279
Lawful neutral but the order they follow is so infinitely complex that it seems random to lesser beings

do not fit human understanding, so do not fit a man-made alignment

>>51736320
>>51736381
>>51736821

These are correct.

>>51736279
Yog-Sothoth exists outside of creation. Ergo it cannot have an alignment.

>>51736279
They are beyond morality. Is the universe good or evil? What alignment does the electromagnetic force have?

Nyarlathotep's alignment, however, is Complete Asshole.

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Alignments for incomprehensible elder beings is like trying to guess the correct chess piece in for a unstable element isotope, i.e. you are asking a stupid question with no proper answer. No answer is more correct or more false, since you are asking wrong questions.

>>51737702
Radium should be used for the rook

>>51736279
> Applying concepts of human morality to eldritch beings

>>51737901
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>>51737405
This, this, and these. Trying to push an alignment on ancient eldritch beings is frankly insulting to the raw power they represent.

>>51736279
They are ghay'hukjas, or maybe bnuoj-jytyu'u depending on which side of the thygy'yfh debacle you are on. Altrought you could make a good argument about they being foilas'ksas from the Elder Thing's point of view.
Still, in terms of human morality they likely sit comfortably at the non-euclidean intersection of Lawful Insane, Chaotic Mad and Neutral Concerned.

>>51737901
Those eldritch beings are written by human hands and so their actions can be summarized and classified. From an observer's point of view they're almost always either chaotic something, or a forest fire. And an observer's point of view is necessary to put things into alignments. I'm just tired of the entire "they are abooooooove understandiiiiiing. They are either characters or props.

>>51737847
>implying
Rooks are simple, powerful, and move in straight lines. They should be Iron.
Pawns are Hydrogen, that much is obvious, Knights could be... Sulphur?

>>51736279
Yes.

Also all the others.

Roll 1d10 for an alignment every time you use an alignment based spell/power on them. (on a roll of 0, they have a contradictory alignment such as Lawful Chaotic, or Good Evil.)

>>51738043
What alignment would you give a totally natural hurricane?

>>51738135
True Neutral.

>>51738135
Chaotic Neutral.

>>51738043

What you fail to understand is that they are props or, more accurately, events.

>>51738043
What aligment do you give to time?
And to space? And to gravity?
What is the aligment of physics itself?
And to fear? And to madness?
And to music? To colors?
To logic?

>>51738113
he said UNSTABLE isotopes. but for elements in general, I think that may work.

Unaligned is an alignment in 5e.

>>51738740
Time:Forward
Space: Undefined
Gravity: radial
fear: dunno
madness: dunno
Music: In whatever direction the wave is propagating
colors: given by the wavelength.
Logic: True

>>51736279
Potato
It's kinda the point

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>>51737959
>Neutral Concerned

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>>51738113
>>51737847
Yes, yes... But what if we start playing chess using quantum chemistry rules?..

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Is OP a faggot or a retard?

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>>51738113
king is oxygen and queen is carbon?

>>51736279
They're Nothing. Weaponized Nothing.

The outer gods are beyond comprehensions of simple definitions of what is good and evil. They don't consciously consider humanity or any other race.

Pure chaos

>>51743414
Humans are beyond any standard of values that ants make use of. They don't consciously consider the wellfare of any sort of insect.

Pure chaos.

Cthulhu could be Lawful Good for all the difference it makes. A Paladin doesn't cry over a swatted fly.

>>51744470

They are a completely alien species and comprehend everything differently. Lovecraft basically meant for them to be unknowable by design.

It is like having a worm comprehend the meaning of life. Explaining light to the blind, teaching what the sensation of touch is to people born without the ability to touch anything.

Cthulhu, the alien entity doesn't care for humanity and the lore of the Mythos says it wants to basically destroy all life on earth.

>>51739190
Underrated post

>>51740507
So, anytime we move a piece, we have to calculate it's wavefunction?

>>51744833
When a Paladin cures someone's disease, are they not destroying all members of a lifeform in a particular host?

If anything, making the world extinguishing eldritch horror Lawful Good actually reinforces the idea of humanity as utterly insignificant. Their lives aren't even taken into account for determining their morality.

>>51737642
>What alignment does the electromagnetic force have?

Depends. It has six of them. Up, down, strange, charm, top, and bottom.

We need one of those alignment charts for this.

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>>51736279
Azathoth is Chaotic bacon
Yog-Sothoth is Lawful necktie

>>51744833
>Cthulhu, the alien entity doesn't care for humanity and the lore of the Mythos says it wants to basically destroy all life on earth.

You're right about the not caring part, but Cthulhu doesn't want to destroy all life on Earth; he genuinely doesn't care. Cthulhu's awakening might destroy human civilization, but that would just be an accidental byproduct of Cthulhu going about his day.

>>51736320
I'mma steal this line, is it ok if I credit you "anon - /tg/"

>>51738043
>Those eldritch beings are written by human hands
Yet, they are implied to be "moralless", if not mindless.Author may failed in expressing it but THE idea stands.
>spoiler
They are paysage

>>51736279
mortals cant understand there reasining and those who try cant make out any desernable patterns.