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Jumpchain CYOA Thread 1343: Drunken Orochi Edition

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>Google Drive
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&usp=sharing

>Jumpchain IRC Chat
http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=rizon.mibbit.org&channel=%23JumpchainCYOA
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA

>Rules
http://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn

>How to Jumpchain
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDNjZmRG02SDFaRVk/view

>Last Thread

>>51713446
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So whats your hobby jumper?
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Is there creator of World Of Cultivation? I have question about Voices In your Head. Can that Yao be like Pu Yao ? So I can learn from him ancient Yao arts.
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>>51722954
I've quite a few. Cooking, busking, programming and starting urban legends.
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>>51722965
Sorry these voices are strictly annoying asshats. I am thinking about adding an advisor in your head as a perk when I do the update after this current arc is over which looks like it will be soon. Planning on adding a lot of stuff.
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>>51722851
Hey what are the limits of exotic components from infernals? Would something like a pattern spider's, Mandibles be in there?
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>>51722954
Travelling. Lots and lots of travelling.

I would go out of my way to literally get lost in a World so I could explore it more and it's a point of humour with the others that I do my best work when I'm lost because I tend to stumble across ancient ruins or hidden treasures.
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For HeavensAnon, a question about Madoka Magica Jump's Decretum Perk.

It mentions that it uses "a fair amount of Magical Energy" does this refer to the Magic given by the Soul Gem or the Jumper's personal pool?

Secondly, it goes on to mention that "summoning this monster will immediately 'refresh' your mind of any scars or trauma" does this mean that it also has a purifying effect on one's Soul Gem as well?
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>>51722986
Could be there yao and mo perk lines too ? And I would love ancient mentor perk.
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>>51722954
applied Behavioral economics,sex and blacksmithing.
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>>51723002
The limit is mainly that it's stuff from Hell/Malfeas.

So, no. No mandibles of Pattern Spiders, because those live in Heaven/Yu-Shan, nowhere near Hell.

>>51722811
Sure. The Conventicle Malfeasant is mentioned as maybe being bigger on the inside? Not sure if other buildings are.

It might be hard to pull off though, and would still require the effort/materials for the bigger inside's size.
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>>51722954
SCIENCE!, Playing cupid, trolling races.
Also giving people FF classes and comvincing them the world is actully a JRPG.
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>>51722954
Training.
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Another thread, another day I am consumed with rage towards all living things.
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So, I just happened upon a brilliant idea.

So, take one Lyrical Nanoha Jump, add the fact that you're most likely gonna be a pre-teen, then despair at the fact that you miiiiiiight need a Guardian if you go with a Drop-In Origin.

Well, technically, you don't, but where's the fun in that?

So, here's what I did. I looked for a down-on-his/her-luck person, unknowingly crushed by the bullshit that is adult life. Then my companions and I knock on her door.

"Hello ma'am! Would you like to adopt five pre-teen magic users who might or might not be completely and utterly lost and ended up on a random planet instead of finding themselves back home because someone had to distract the only one who can actually use the Dimensional Transfer Spell? We are willing to help out with groceries, chores, and household security especially against other mages, aliens, and alien mages. Oh, we are also willing to cosplay, call you onee-san, aneki, kaa-san, okaa-sama, or haha-ue...de gozaru."

"...de gozaru?!"

> Coming never to a tv near you, Kobayashi-san's Lyrical Mage Kids.
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>>51723016
I will try to make them and I want to, but Right now Im working out how to do mo physiques
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So why isn't Schlock Mercenary on the drive? Anons like Crux and Gaunlet have posted builds without anyone objecting, and the various updates to the jump have been well received. (The latest is from Sept 20, attached: I am not the author, just saving folks a trip to the archives.)
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>>51723168
People keep forgetting to put it on. People bring it up again and again but no one seems to bother just putting it in the uploads folder. It's pretty funny.
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>>51723151
Actually, Drop-Ins get Age Is No Barrier for free.
Yes, I got it.
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>>51723250
Isn't that a TSAB Origin Freebie?
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>>51722954
I kidnap people from their homes at night and force them to watch SoL anime with me.
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>>51723250
>>51723294
Nevermind, just found Heavens' version of the Jump.
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>>51723097
>(You)
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>>51723294
It depends on the version.
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>>51723097
hey Timmy.
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>>51723168
it's uploaded now. Does anyone else think the WIP folder should be further split into Jumpable WIP and unJumpable WIP?
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If you import 8 companions when you don't actually have 8 companions, can you fill those slots if you return on a future jump?

My theory is yes, but I want to know if there is precedent anywhere.
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>>51723437
that is of bit of a stretch, You're using the return thing from the warehouse supplement right?
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>>51722954
Being amazing.

But seriously, vacationing. Travelling around the world and enjoying all the sights, foods, people and fun to be had. Gotta enjoy each world to the fullest and if I spend all my time working on my own stuff, how would I ever see everything?
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>>51722954
Collecting/Reading Books, Psychology, and making video games.
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>>51722954
DnD but with magically constructed/illusioned maps and pieces/
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>>51723525
Yes.
It strikes me as being within the bounds of reasonable fanwankery. You are paying for it (where applicable) so it doesn't really break anything.
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>>51723544
>>51723005
>People actually want to move their asses and 'see' things
>In reality all the worlds will look exactly the same after a few worlds
>You will probably end un watching TV in your couch
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>>51723705
Jeeze anon, you'd almost think you can't see the wonder in the world around you just now. Even if every world's the same, there's plenty enough to last a few hundred jumps, if you've actually got a mind to look for it.

And being a couch potato is one of the many things to enjoy, so you gotta try that out to every once in a while.
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>>51723660
that seems like a reasonable house rule than.
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>>51723705
Nah we have tons of different worlds. If you take Heart of a Child from Narnia or a similar perk you'll never get bored by it too.
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>>51723705
>he doesn't cross-reference the atomic structure of the universes he visit, all the way down to their inception, to understand how it all fits together throughout the multiverse
>he doesn't measure how the value of souls differ from world to world
>he thinks a mere cathode ray tube broadcasting a subset of information filtered through a finite spectrum of cultural stimuli is anywhere near as interesting as observing the infinite possibilities of time and space

You go on and couch potato all you like, I'ma quantum space potato it out here in space.
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What are your favorite types of metals that you can get in Jumpchain? Or just some cool metals for making stuff I have these seed things from infernals sitting in my warehouse and nobidea what I want to grow with them.
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>>51723705
Nuh-uh my friend, every world has differences, whether major or minor, landscape or people, cultures or nations, stories or facts. Every single is different, and I'll be damned if I just let it go by.

Also, with my Companions, why would it every be boring?

To wit, in Otoyomegatari, we owned a nice house near the town that the Eihan(?) live in, but every so often, we'd saddle up, pack the yurts and ride off in a random direction.

Then in Spice and Wolf, after selling all the pepper we had and making a few investments here and there, we bought supplies, one of those gypsy wagons, two good healthy horses, a map or two, then rode off following the road to where ever it led. Stopping at major town or city every so often to make more investments so local industries can grow. There was a cool point where we travelled with protags for a good while, a few weeks or so, before we had one of those crossroad scenes.

Then in Mass Effect, after taking over as the Shadow Broker, we found ourselves an automated ship-building plant on Noveria, built a better, luxurious version of the Normandy SR-2, then left, never to be seen again as we explored and ran the Network.

There's adventure everywhere, you just need to go out and find it.
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>>51722954
I rescue princesses in towers from dragons. You'd think the thrill would wear off after a while, but no.
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>>51723851
Adamantium and vibranium from marvel are pretty bitchin, stygian steel from percy jackson is cool too. Uru from marvel is like one of the best magic metals too.
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>>51723979
How man settings are there where you can do that?
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>>51724026
Not him but pretty much all of them if you are willing to also play the dragon.
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>>51723012
It doesn't purify the Soul Gem in-jump, no. The energy used in-jump is Soul Gem energy, then it's whatever pool you use in future jumps (whether keeping the Soul Gem or using one you have already, or just stamina, etc.). Naturally, mix-and-match magic perks can let you change your mind on this down the road.
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>>51717188
Well, hope you'll see this, AbyssalsAnon

>the 50cp alterations
I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about this. Never really got the impression the need to wear funerary stuff to be that bad. Since it's just vague wrong-ness, unless they're in direct sunlight, then it's headaches or feeling lost. And wearing all black or white's enough to ignore it. Speaking of, the 'direct sunlight' bit should probably be mentioned? Maybe?

But sure, for those who don't want to rock the goth look.

Anyway, the second part with the emotional bit probably needs at least some mention of the benefits of it? You know, the whole letting go of anxieties and terror, gaining self-assurance?

>You ARE going to help them, aren't you?
I mean, you have a Black Exaltation. That basically means you further the cause of Oblivion, even if you fight them, because of Resonance. At least in the Neverborn's view, IIRC?

>(I need more backgrounds)
Savant seems obvious. Otherwise... Merchant (Prince)? Noble? Monk/Priest? Thief/Spy/Assassin?

>DARK SPECTER OF RESONANCE
Interesting, I like it. Still holding out for an option to get Shards-style Dark Fate though.

>UNDISCOUNTED 100 CP BEAUTY PERK because of course right
Of course.

>DEATH CULTISTS
Should probably include a mention of a limit on it. Even if buying it six times to get a Creation-spanning N/A Cult would be awesome, it would also be ridiculous.

Unless I'm reading it wrong and you just get different groups of Cult 1, instead of upgrading one group every purchase.

>First Dark Mutilation of the Willing
Oh geez, that's an especially ugly drawback. Sounds even worse than the usual fate of low-appearance Abyssals


All in all, it's short in content, but I really like what I'm reading.
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>>51724052

Bodacious Babes
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>>51723851
Endless Legend has quite a few ores which can add superhuman attributes to those that imbibe of them-speed, durability, stuff basically indistinguishable from magical enchantments. The fun part is everything's nanomachines at some level, and they're actually the byproducts of a broken system-so there's potentially more varieties to cook up.

Heartstone is normally made from a tonic sold in Fallen London that hardens grief into solid metal. Makes for excellent ammunition.

Discworld has Octiron, the magical metal. Dark, and seems to have some property of inversion. Absorbs magic, but also acts as an excellent conduit for it. Bells made of it silence everything around them when rung.

Chrono Cross and one of the gundams both feature living metals, which are useful if you like the idea of an army of killer metal trees.

Daedric metal from Elder Scrolls really brings out the evil overlord look if you like it; it's just the mineral ebony forged with souls.

Mistborn has quite a few, listed in the jump. Exalted too-there's Jade (comes in several elemental varieties), Starmetal (hardened destiny or the remains of gods which bends the fate of what it's forged into's favor), Moonsilver (molten silver catalysed in the Wyld by Silver Chair's light, which helps things made of it shapeshift/do weird dreamy stuff) and Orichalcum (molten gold consecrated under the Daystar that just makes things work better and glow gold). In Mage the Awakening, passing metals into the astral realms can similarly refine them albeit with-as written-less potential for artifacts into "perfect" forms by repeatedly passing them into Twilight (the spirit world, basically) and back into the material world repeatedly.

My personal favorite, though-is Cuendillar or Heartstone, from the Wheel of Time: A nigh-unbreakable construction created by refining iron using weaves of Earth, Fire and Air.
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>>51724052

Heavens, question about your Dragon Ball jumps.

With the drawbacks that up the danger level by having Xenoverse stuff happen in the background, is it possible to encounter Towa enough to waifu her?
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>>51724085
>Chrono Cross
Dont think that ones a jump yet?
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>>51724134
Probably not. It's just making you deal with the powered-up encounters in Xenoverse with a bit of fiat backing. You probably wouldn't get to confront/interact with them directly.

Currently, that's down to the original endjump doc or if I miraculously figure out how the hell a Xenoverse jump works. Might need to ask about that. Fuck time travel.
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>>51724174
>Spoiler
Don't do that unless you want to end up as your own grandpa.
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>>51724053
>the 50cp alterations
Not him, but yeah, maybe. Though they might fit better as some sort of general/drop-in perk that lets you fudge minor requirements to mystical abilities and rituals like those.
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Could Real Eater be used to change the body part used for FLCL's N.O. Utilization?
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>>51724052
Thanks for the answer boss!
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What kind/size of dog is Cabin in the Woods' Swarm perk measured in?
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>>51724141
TRIGGER. Chrono TRIGGER fuck, always keep getting those mixed up
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>>51724085
>Cuendillar
Thats definately going in. Trees made of that sound awesome.from the wiki I see that it also gets stronger the more stuff it goes through which is awesome.

>Octiron
Also sounds super useful, no idea what kind of trees will grow out of it though, sounds dangerous.

Cant decide between vibranium or daedric metal for the third. So far I have metal black trees and silver whitish cuend. Trees. They are planned to be planted in my inner world so I need to pick the third carefully. I should also put my scp blade tree in there.
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>>51724174
Would it be better in the long run to get the perk that lets you build angeloids or just get Daedalus to teach my jumper?
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Happy valentines day everybody.
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>>51724348
Oh my
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>>51724348
IGNORE THIS POST IT'S ALL LIES!

Happy valentines I guess. Enjoy the holiday.
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>>51724343
Depends on what you're going for and if you want to be the one building/designing the robots. Primary benefit to Daedalus is that she already knows how to design the Pandora system, which is pretty fantastic.

The jump is getting a very likely update in the near future that will give more options to Angelroids and expand on Pandora a bit, along with some new perks/items. Also I really need to go over all of my previous jumps and actually fix some typos or expand on early ones. Ed, Edd n Eddy was way too barebones and the gauntlet thing was on a whim.

Yes, it will keep the strength perk.
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>>51724375
Tanks are the best.
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>>51722954

Treasure hunting and doing what companions want to do, which is normally cooking, looking for a fight or lazing about in a pillow fortress. I also like spooking people.

Happy Valentines day everybody.
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>>51724399
also I wanted to suggest, maybe lift the origin restriction on the OC companions? I always regretted not being able to take the prototype even if I could pay full price for it
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>>51724420
Yeah that's definitely going to be lifted. I honestly am not sure what I was thinking at the time.
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>>51724375
TOO LATE
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>>51724432
What was wrong with the main character again?
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>>51723420
Thanks, Bancho.

If a jump is basically finished it shouldn't be in the WIP. It should be in a regular folder. If the author wants to tweak it, they can issue an update.
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>>51724445
Too early in the morning for me to feel the salt. Ask again later. The short version is take the worst possible traits of a perverted harem protagonist, give them no bearing on the plot (in fact, a vehement resistance to explore any of the interesting parts of the setting), and you get Tomoki Sakurai.

Pic related is my exact thoughts on the character being designated as the protagonist.
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>>51723764
Would you have to kill everyone in the Return of a King drawback?
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How would the people of berk react to a dragon that can shape-shift into a human? also is there any major difference between the httyd book and the movie?
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>>51724623
At the very least you'd need to solidly defeat them.
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>>51724348
>Worm_Anon
Used. Goods.
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/JC/! At what point in your chain did you realize that you are simply wasting CP taking Skill Perks?

Being stuck in a world for 10 years can really teach you a thing or two after all.
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>>51724745
Since always. I almost never take skill perks because I like to learn and do things on my own.
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>>51724715
there are quite alot of differences in the books.
IIRC there re no Nightfuries for example
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>>51724770
This >>51724775 . Skill perks are the most boring things you can offer desu. Where's the fun in getting development handed to you? It's a shame we don't have more options for potential power.
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>>51724745
Since when were you under the impression they weren't? It's a shame that a certain namefag doesn't seem to grasp such obvious truths.
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>>51724717

Not then, but this reminded me of something I was wondering.

If you take 'Long War' and 'Return of the Kings' does the king competition only occur in the fourth grail war, or will it occur for all of them?
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>>51724174

I know that feel Heavens.
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>>51724745
You can take them to spice up your backstory.
"Why does this twelve year odl have thirty PhD's?"
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Right then, I'm back. Time to answer questions from the last thread.

To the anon who asked about Immunity to Almighty, none of the Atlus jumps offer such a thing, though they might give you a resistance. In which case, all Almighty attacks will do half the damage they normally would have. Instant death is still instant death, though.

Also, to Garlock and the other anons talking about Brahman and YHVH and the connection they might have, that's a matter of debate. Brahman's form visibly possess an Amala Drum on the sides of his face, indicating a connection to YHVH. Schrodinger however states after the Satan Bonus Boss Battle that the God he worshiped was not the same one that waited at the center of the Sun AKA Brahman. Most likely answer is that Brahman is another avatar of the Great Will besides YHVH, but is otherwise unrelated.
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>>51724855
All of them.
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Question for all you harem jumpers out there.

Who are your evil waifus? How did you convince them to join you? Did you redeem them or do you just let them be evil?
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>>51724936

Just thought of another question. Are all the pre fourth war kings 'random' or do Gilgamesh, Iskander, and Arturia keep returning for rematches?
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>>51724993
All random. The only constant is that they'll all be strong.
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>>51723851
Mordite from Dresden Files
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>>51725139
S'not a metal desu, apart from it being a chunk of eldritchness it looks more like a smokey soap bubble with tentacles
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>>51725139
Also, putting it inside of yourself is liable to kill you.
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>>51725139
I have a few problems with that, Bruce Lee isn't that a mineral that is not a metal? Secondly how the heck would that even grow as a tree if it is solidified death? And lastly that would kill literally everything I tried to put in there with it, I'm trying to make a mini world not kill everything.
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>>51725257
Bruce lee? Wtf text to speech.

Also putting that inside of me does not sound like a good idea.
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>>51725257
You leave Bruce Lee out of this you sick bastard.
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>>51723544
Is she covered in cheesecake? Cheesecake covered cheesecake? I think I just had my first inception boner.
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>>51725278
I wish I could but apparently my text-to-speech on my phone thinks mostly sounds like Bruce Lee.
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>>51723705
>I have never traveled and I am tired of people talking about how amazing it is
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>>51725296
bancho?
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>>51725324
Nope I just got a problem typing with my screen cracked lately.it seems to pick up good most of the time just not all the time.
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>>51725324
>themsfitanwurds.fist
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>>51725345
>>51725324
Also one of the reasons I have such terrible editing and spelling on most of the jumps I make, I do everything on my phone but the keys do not like to work correctly and the text to speech makes me sound like I had a stroke mid sentence. I think there are a couple of us filtht phoneposters in the thread.
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>>51725232
Perhaps the same can be said of all waifus!
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>>51725396
You make jumps on your phone? Why do you hate yourself so much?
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Kamen Rider Knight / Ren Akiyama [200] - A knight clad in black, with the Mirror Monster Darkwing on his side, Ren is a cold loner and an early entry into the Rider War. He didn’t have much for himself in terms of a future and regularly got into street fights at the drop of a hat. The exception to this was his fiance’ Eri Ogawa, who was attacked by Darkwing and placed into a coma. Kanzaki Shiro appeared before him and told him that winning the Rider War was the only way to bring Eri back, to which he reluctantly agreed. To add insult to injury, his Contract was made with the monster that put her in such a state to begin with.

Ren tries to act aloof and not make emotional connections to other Riders...but despite this, he is ultimately torn between trying to save the love of his life and having to take human lives in order to do so. His own emotional bonds and his reluctance to do so are an obstacle he must overcome, and he knows it...but he may never bring himself to except when it ultimately comes down to Eri’s life or someone else’s. Perhaps that’s why he seems to tolerate Shinji’s presence as a sort of ‘annoying little brother’ or ‘vaguely useful ally’ despite how often the two come to blows.

Something of note is that Ren is followed by Kanzaki Yui, Shiro’s sister, who he originally acquainted himself with in an attempt to gain some sort of advantage in the War. This is likely not to pan out at all and Ren will end up becoming gradual friends with Yui, much like Shinji, if less vitriolic.


Happy Valentine's Day!
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>>51723197
I uh, was sort of thinking it was already on there. Oops. Yeah, I think the jumpmaker is pretty much done with it.
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>>51725443
Noice.
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>>51723405
We have more than one version?
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Dc occult
19 YO male
Gotham
Half Blood
Jumper, Prince(ss) of Jumpworld:

Twisted sister free
Blessing without end (delirium) 800
Dark and Troubled Times free
Hypnotism 700
Highway to Hell free
Carefully Chosen Words 400
Dimension Lord (Imported into/fused with Devil Tiger World) Free

Items
Library of Eternity -200
Family tree free

Drawbacks
Blinded by the Truth 0

So I dont actually know much about dc occult. I think Im going to start up a bar for super heros and endless and other peoples that dont have access to good booze.

Also pester batman.

Cause I like batman.

Also Im going to see if I can get darkseid to recognize my bar as neutral territory when it comes to invasions. If possiblr. Probably not possible.
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>>51725548
Shir forgot to remove my name.

>>51725431
Because I travel all the time for work and I don't have a computer with me when I'm traveling.
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Alright, well, this is done. Ready to be uploaded and all that. Uh, this and DDS part 1 should probably be in a folder, due to it being one two-part jump.
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>>51725014
I always wondered about something Fate related.

Arthuria made contract to have her wish granted. And so, she was summoned into the Grail Wars for that purpose. Wouldn't that mean Wars 1 through 3, too?
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>>51725523
Technically the first version was a WIP, but everyone used it anyway.
Ancilla set out to finish it, but ran out of steam. Heavens took over from there.
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>>51725699
It depends, considering the clusterfucks that were the first, second, and third wars, Alaya may have concluded that the Fourth and Fifth Wars were Arthuria's best bet at winning her wish.

OR!

Alaya sent her to those Wars to assist in the destruction of the Grail since the Angra Maiyu would have twisted whatever wish was made and killed humans in order to grant it. Considering Kiri's wish and later the The Shadow, that would have meant a lot of humans dead beyond dead.
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>>51725909
Saber wast summoned during the fourth without reason.
the Einzbern had a catalyst for her remember?
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>>51724936
What about the used goods drawback?

Also, is having a companion with something like power of dominance or dark binding and having them eat the souls a valid way to try and avoid that?
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>>51725992
Likewise the Fifth, but you need to ask yourself something.

How the fuck did the Einzbern find Avalon in the first place?
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>>51726067
How did Tohsaka find the fucking FIRST SNAKE.
or how did Melloi find a replacement that fast for Lancer?
Magi seem to be stupid good at treasure hunting. most D&D parties have nothing on them
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>>51726107
>>51726067
Maybe they used some kind of tracking magic to find them?
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>>51725602
>Uh, this and DDS part 1 should probably be in a folder, due to it being one two-part jump.
Or just make the names the same except for the part so they are next to each other in alphabetical listing. A folder for two things that start with the same name is unnecessary and dumb.
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>>51726185
Don't we literally have a folder for touhou despite the two versions only having like one difference?
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>>51726185
Anon, I mean that it's one jump. The ending for DDS part 1 has no "Go Home/Stat Here/Move On" option because it leads directly to part 2.
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>>51726201
>despite the two versions only having like one difference?
I stand by my unnecessary and dumb statement.
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>>51726213
I suppose you could just combine the two together into one document, it's not like your jumps are really large at all. Just put a note at the top or something.
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>>51726213
>The ending for DDS part 1 has no "Go Home/Stat Here/Move On" option because it leads directly to part 2.
Might be better to add that, so you can do other jumps in between and come back to part 2 later.
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>>51726213
Unrelated, but does the Import in the Devil Survivor jumps give companions backgrounds(+discounts) or just the chance to purchase perks?
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>>51726322
You can't, that's the point.
It's supposed to be a single, multi-part jump. Like LoT or Fall from Heaven.
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>>51726107
Avalon isn't a terrestrial object, it's from the Fae, by all rights, it should have left the world of men the moment its true owner vanished.

All those examples you quoted are all from Earth and therefore could be found sooner or later. Furthermore, when talking about Kenneth finding a catalyst for Diarmuid, it could be a case simply using his position to requisition it from the storage area of the Clocktower or the Archibald, hell, his fiance has a name that sounds like she walked out of an Irish Story, so she could have used her connections to find it as well.

Hell, it was noted at one point she had a collection of catalysts...well, that was in Apocrypha certainly, but there it is.

Any way, tl:dr - Avalon doesn't originate from Earth, it's Fae-born, it had no reason to stick around when its owner fell. The first snake skin however does originate from Earth and has an age equal to that of a lot of gems. Also Sola-Ui could easily grabbed the replacement catalyst from her or family's collection.
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Kamen Rider Zolda / Shuichi Kitaoka [300] - A self-proclaimed ‘super lawyer’ who lives a life of extravagance, he is a defense attorney who claims he can get any client of his out of trouble for the right price. He has a long track record of winning cases for dubious individuals, and his fighting style in the Rider War matches him perfectly: sneaky, underhanded, and unafraid to use various tricks to get ahead. Despite himself, Shuichi does go out of his way to help some of those he finds less fortunate, though he’ll never admit it or do it in public unless he has some way to benefit from it.

He is also dying from terminal cancer. Kitaoka only has months to live and is well aware of it, and wants to wish to live forever so he can continue enjoying his existence for eternity. He is regularly accompanied by his life partner and bodyguard Gorou Yura, who is unshakably loyal to him and well aware of his activities as a Rider, and is willing to assist him wherever possible in the War. Should you manage to secure Kitaoka as an Ally, they will both work with you. Be warned - underneath his charming persona, he is one of the Riders with no reservations about underhanded tactics, especially with his own life on the line. Magnugiga gives him an incredibly deadly ranged arsenal and the most destructive (and unwieldy) Final Vent, End of the World, that can level an entire city block in a hail of bullets and artillery fire. Still, maybe if you last long enough, you could secure a business partnership with him...
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>>51726438
Wait, Avalon's power is to nosell almost anything the Fateverse can throw at it. I's explicity the True Magic that even beats ou the oher known 5 Magics. What if that includes Gaia's grand reality marble giving it the boot?
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>>51726245
Eh, I suppose, but that just doesn't seem like the right thing to do here.

>>51726322
This anon >>51726426 has the right of it. It's a single multi-part jump. One leads directly into the other.

>>51726343
Oh, yeah, they get to choose an origin and get discounts.
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what are perks that let me be maximum smug and deserve it, too?
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>>51726599
Be a cell in dbz multiverze.
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What program do you use to keep track of your abilities and jumps? I've been using Excel but find it lacking.
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>>51726670
One Note. Its awesome an can sync between phone and comp. It allows nested tabs, screencaps, and inserted pictures too. Its the best.
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>>51726670
Excel works fine if you organize individual sheets well and use links. It's the best for organization, even if things like CherryTree and OneNote seem better aesthetically. Once you hit high jump numbers excel is basically the only way to go.
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>>51726719
What sort of template do you use for Jumpchain in Excel? I don't have much experience with the program.
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>>51726499
It was given to Arthuria by the Fae along with Excalibur for her use and hers alone. The moment Excalibur goes, then Avalon, by all rights should follow. Back to the Fae.
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>>51724309
Lab Retriever, or about 65 pounds of mass if you want to be more exact
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What would be some good ways to survive the Killing Curse from Harry Potter?
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>>51726693

Seconded.
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>>51726822

Not being hit, having a screen of solid matter (optionally living), using spatial warps to redirect it, shooting first, being invisible, being undead, antimagic fields...
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>>51726822
1-up perks -additional lives:
Skull Rebirth (Skull Man)
Extra Life (Scott Pilgrim)
1-up (Super Mario)
Mediumcore (Terraria)
Eternal (Creepypasta)
Blessing of Death (DC Occult WIP)
Tower of Naraka (Asura's Wrath)
Back From the Grave (Generic Universal Monsters)
A Bad Dream (Rust)
Down, Rebirth (Custom Robo)
Wakestone Shard (Dragon's Dogma)
Respawn (Killing Floor)
Jumper-grade Cortical Stack (Eclipse Phase)
NWoD Mortals (Purified)
Kisk Stone (Aion)
Divine Charm (Hero Union BBS)
Horcrux (Harry Potter)
God Tier (SBURB; conditional, unheroic or unjust death)
Self-Sacrifice (Disney Princess; conditional, risk life to save someone from something that would kill you)
Red Hot Shot (Bayonetta)
Enter the Gungeon (A Shot Through Time)
Save-scumming (Generic Dungeon Crawl)
Cortex Command (Backup Plan)
God Hand (Fate)
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>>51726822
High magic resistance
Ribbon Bearer, maybe? I think 1 of the effects it blocks is Instant Death.
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>>51726822
Put something between you and it the curse doesn't seem to be able to go through solid objects so a suit of armor at the very least should be able to block it.
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>>51724977
Scanty and Kneesocks are on my list for sure
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>>51726822
There's an item in Super Mario RPG that makes you immune to instant death effects.
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>>51724977
Those two are less evil than the angels.
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>>51726822
Assuming AK works through severing soul from body, Ghost Rider has a thing.
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>>51726822
Deathnote and Lost Odyssey have insta death immunity
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>>51726822
The ability to clone yourself, or operate spare bodies, either of biological or inorganig variety. He can feel free to Adava Kedavra the enchanted robot you are operating by remote all he wants

Other stuff has already been said (Be immune to death effects, or magic in general)
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>>51726839
>>51726847
>>51726857
>>51726907
>>51726926
>>51726944
>>51727040
>>51727092
Thank you for all the suggestions!
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>>51726828
Thirded.
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Didnt we have some infinite meat item that sated "unsual" diets or something? Cause the jump I thought it was in doesnt have it. Am I completely mistaken or just looking at the wrong jumps?
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>>51727250
Carnivores has infinite meat of anything you have killed, mount and blade has beef, also supernatural jas human hearts.
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>>51722954
I garden.
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>>51727250
>sated "unsual" diets
Metavore in Body mod does this.

But that sounds familiar. An item that is filling/meets all your needs by fiat. Don't know if it was meat though. Maybe some health food or tasteless gruel?
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>>51722954
Baking, making complex mega-structures for the hell of it, experimenting in my lab. Just to name a few.

>>51724348
I would say "I knew it", but everyone knew it.

>>51724745
Define "wasting". I knew from day one I could gain them myself, but they are helpful anyway.

>>51724977
Azula is probably the most "evil" of my waifus. And I went for redemption, but since Azula is crazier than a bag of cats it's less "redeem" and more "point in the right direction".
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Drop in
200 cp - When You Lose Something…
There are atrocities, in this world, and in others. Things you see, that leave you with a near debilitating sense of disgust, or sorrow. Sadly, you may not have the time to mourn them. With this, you may soldier on and keep going, and have your panic attack later.

200 cp - ...You Also Gain Something
There is always, always, a silver lining. And you are an expert at finding them, and pointing them out to others. This isn’t charisma, per say, but merely the ability to give an excellent pep talk. From talking down suicide jumpers, to inspiring the Riders, your words echo - and that echo leaves the world a better place.


I'm not 100% on the way these are phrased, but do you get what I was trying to do?
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Is Prince-anon still working on pic related? Cause if not I'd take up the IP but would like to use his elegant method of dealing with the Sands of Time.
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>>51724745
When I took Skill Growth perks, I bought skill perks up till then but afterwards I could train up to my desired skill level fairly quickly.
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If I want to make sure that the potential apocalypse in Penny Dreadful won't cause me any issues what should I do?
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>>51724134
I'd rather the time loli. Trunks has Mai, he doesn't need her too.
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>>51726921
There's nothing evil about following the rurs
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>>51727713
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>>51727549
>saving Victorian England
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>>51727799
From what I understand the whole world is fucked if things go badly. If I can just hitch a boat to the states to avoid that mess I will.
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>>51726801
Would it be possible to train swarm size and telekinesis strength higher?
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>>51727408
He hasn't been seen in a year anon
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>>51727790
Damnit Plague.
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>>51727395
They look good. Basically mental resilience for the 100 and inspiring/making people feel less shit for 200.
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>>51727844
No to both
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>>51727713
>>51727790
Chrona is a slut! SLUT!
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>>51727919
So? That describes most jumpers desu.
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>>51725443
I always liked Ren. He's got a sweet design, an interesting if occasionally overly-angsty backstory, and some awesome fight scenes even if after he gets Survive all his fights somehow wind up down at the docks so they can reuse the same stock footage of his upgraded Final Vent.
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>>51727919
Chrona is pure.
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>>51728055
Stripper heels, the "two v-signs" thing that Nips think is slutty, and shaking her ass at the screen says otherwise.
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This might not be the best time to ask this, but with DDS done, I'm trying to figure out whether to start working on Nocturne or Soul Nomad next. What do you all think?
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>>51724240
It's not actually a requirement for any mystic ability or ritual though.

Abyssals just have a minor "weakness" (it's more of an aversion, I'd say) to being in Creation, since living essence is different from their necrotic essence. Which gets much worse in direct sunlight. Acting/dressing all goth-y allows them to ignore that.

If made into a perk, I'd think it would be more you being able to mitigate weaknesses by acting in character. Like, a vampire who gets some resistance to sunlight from acting like a stereotypical vampire.


But anyway, I think both of them are actually fine as independent 50cp options. I just think the default's not as bad as it is presented right now.

>>51725257
Technically, the seeds from Infernals can grow any inorganic material, not just metals. Just so long as you can fashion it into a spike.

But yeah, Mordite would probably kill it. ...Probably.
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>>51728122
I put my vote forward for Soul Nomad because Gig.
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Can someone please post the katasomething hitman reborn jump for me?
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>>51728122
Personally, I'm a /little/ more familiar with Nocturne. But both sound good to me... So I don't really have a strong preference?

I'll look forward to whichever is decided upon. Thanks for your jumps, by the way. They're some of my favorites.
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>>51728122
My vote goes to Nocturne.
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>>51728220
Which one? This one?
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>>51728220
>>51728240
Or are you talking this one?
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>>51728122
Definitely Nocturne.
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>>51728122
I adore Nocturne so yeah
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>>51728240
>>51728261
Which ones currently in use?
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>>51727713

>Trunks has Mai

Which is fucked up considering Mai is old enough to be his grandmother. It doesn't matter that she de-aged herself.

They should not be shipping those two in Super at all.

I can understand with Future Trunks because at least he was an adult when they met, but no to Kid Trunks.
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>>51728129
>Acting/dressing all goth-y allows them to ignore that.
>If made into a perk, I'd think it would be more you being able to mitigate weaknesses by acting in character. Like, a vampire who gets some resistance to sunlight from acting like a stereotypical vampire.

The point is to not have to dress like a goth, though. The point of the perk would be to allow you to fulfill minor requirements for things you could already do, just making it more convenient.
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>>51728171
>>51728221
>>51728229
>>51728320
>>51728333
Nocturne it is, then. Soul Nomad will be next on the list. Now I just need to figure out how I'm going to actually make Nocturne...anyway, thanks everybody.

Oh, and thanks anon, I'm glad to hear that you like my jumps.
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>>51728240
>>51728261
Holy shit, now that is come vintage shit-posting. Well done.

>>51728343
This is the current one. >>51728240
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>>51728360
Wow, Mai aged surprisingly well. By that time, she should be in her 60s/70s, right?

Also, I'm fairly certain the Pilaf Gang's minds reverted as well, given how childish they all act. There's still something left of the old them, but it looks like it's faded by the Goku Black/Zamasu arc.
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>>51728122
Nocturne please!
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>>51728408
>given how childish they all ac
They were always childish.
Mai acted like holding hands was something super sexual that only married couples did, in Dragonball, when she was already an adult woman.
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>>51728408


This >>51728449

They were already childish, so them acting like that even as adults is normal for them.

So Mai is still a cradle-robber.
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>>51728360
>Which is fucked up considering Mai is old enough to be his grandmother.
This is coming from a jumper who probably sleeps with young human women despite being as old as her planet.
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>>51728408
> given how childish they all act.
There was never a time when they weren't childish. Super has somewhat flanderized the personalities of all the characters, though, across the board.

Actually, that's even been happening since Kai. I guess that's what happens when a series has been running for 25+ years.
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>>51728129
>Technically, the seeds from Infernals can grow any inorganic material, not just metals. Just so long as you can fashion it into a spike.
>But yeah, Mordite would probably kill it. ...Probably.


Damnit! Now I need to widen my search to more than just metals. This is a great and awesome thing thats going to drive me nuts, ok so maybe I need to go through other neat materials but I have no clue what to go with.

As for mordite trees. I have no freakin idea what to do, it sounds cool but nothing living I could put in there would survive so thats probably out.

What are those crystals from ffxiv called? The glowy ones that are packed with so much magic its stupid?
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>>51723097
Rape, destroy, kill, shitpost!
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>>51728449
>>51728466
>>51728482
Eh, fair enough.
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>>51727819
Some of the main characters go to the US in season 3.

To avoid plot it's probably best avoiding them. Honestly not sure what happens later within the decade as the show didn't get that far.
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>>51728425
Wow, people really want Nocturne, huh?
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>>51728467

Excuse you, at least I don't go for them when they're kids.

I wait until they're fully grown.
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>>51728528
Humans are just baby eldritch horrors during an early stage in their life cycle.
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>>51728489
Aetheryte.
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Bayonetta jump when?
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>>51728489
To add what are some of your favorite materials jumpers? Something cool! Maybe something like ...


Sunstones from dinotopia.

Or

Philosopher stones from FMA.

Anything you guys think is a cool or awesome material I would like to hear it!
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Are there any Regen perks other than those from X-Men, SCP, and Prototype that allow for from a single cell level (or close to it) regeneration?
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>>51728467
>old as her planet
I never got this. We have 700 jumps, and most of those last 10 years, with some of them being even less. Sure, a few of them are longer, like Civilization and Evo, but even then you're usually not going to be more then a few million years old at most. So what's with these bizarre statements about the age of jumpers? Most of us are thousands of years old at most.
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Why do we even have Exalted? Exalted fans are, like, ten times worse than CoC fans, and I don't mean the mobile game.
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>>51728518
Nocturne was the only one I ever got to play. Building a demon party and earning my place as top dog was so much fun. I mean it sucks that the world had to be destroyed but it was still a blast.
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>>51728606
A lot of us count our background years too.
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>>51728602
Look in the archives for "nerve cluster" and "Cell" and then follow the reply chain. I think an anon posted most of them.
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>>51728606
If you add in background ages it really gets up there, plus some jumps allow you to stack time and some have drawbacks that force you to sit in a trash can for 10 thousand years.
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>>51728576
We already have one. If you think it's so bad, then Rule 1. Get cracking and show us what you got.
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>>51724912
You are the one working on the Rider War Gauntlet?
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>>51728655
We have a Bayonetta"jump" in the same way we have a Bleach "jump". In other words, we don't really have a Bayonetta jump at all.
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>>51728664

No that's Heavens.

I actually considered doing a Xenoverse jump but decided against it since I don't actually have the game to use for material.
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>>51728675
You heard the anon. It's open.
Get cracking, ya limp dick faggot. ;^)
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>>51728675
Then Rule 1. The jumpmaker gave permission and I'm sure you're itching to begin work. Come on. Don't be shy, let's see what you got.
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Do we have any small, round objects that retain modifications?
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>>51728617
Ah, well then, I hope my work will be just as fun! I mean, not literally, but...you get the idea.

>>51728680
It's a fun game, but also incredibly frustrating sometimes. The PQs make me want to tear my hair out.
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>>51728675
I never understand this. The jump is actually amazing, I love the bayonetta jump.
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>>51728730
It's the shitposter, anon. He hates both Red and the thread in general with a fiery passion, and he's been doing this for three years.
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>>51728576
>>51728675
SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT
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>>51728727
Super Saiyan Bargain Sale.
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>>51728730
Because clearly the Crimson Nerf hates all life and the jump doesn't let you insta-gib Julibeus and Aesir at the same time with both hands tied behind your back. It also doesn't let you instantly win Fate/Exalted/Dragonball. So clearly it's a cancerous turmor that is beginning to corrupt the drive. Come on, anon. That man's a savior for pointing it out despite his laziness and the amount of salt clogging his arteries.

Why aren't you bowing to his every whim and doing his work while sucking his dick at the same time? Just in case it isn't obvious, this is sarcasm and I really doubt that the anon will do anything. He's an entitled shit.
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>>51728730
>actually amazing
Eh? Eh? Eh... Not sure I'd go/that/ far.
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>>51728362
Fair enough. It just doesn't seem useful enough to devote a perk to, and a little weird to base it on something like that instead of canon.

But I suppose it's not up to me. Just my terrible opinion.

>>51728577
Cavorite Alloy from Lost Valley of the Dinosaurs is pretty nice. It's basically natural anti-gravity.

Other than that, I just like gems a lot? Not very cool, but I like shiny things.
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>>51728770
Rick and Morty jump when?
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>>51728813
…We already have one, anon.
Cool Cats made it last year.
It's in the Imaged folder.
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>>51728813
imaged folder
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>>51728813
We... already have one? Season 3 when?
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>>51728577
>>51728573
I mean I like aetheryte but isnt it basically a crystallized soul? Or is that something else? Also doesnt it cause super magic cancer in high amounts? I seem to remember it being kinda like mako energy for some reason.
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>>51728794
>beginning to corrupt the drive.
>when we have Exalted/Dragonball
>implying the drive isn't already corrupted
>mfw
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>>51728680
>No that's Heavens.
Ok, thanks.
>>51728171
Hey Heavens, about the Gauntlet.
Several places in the text, it seems to overate on the assumption that dying/loosing ends your ability to ability to continue the chain. Why?

The refuse to contract is bad, like if you take it, all perk's and items dissolving basically make it into the Salt jump. (Congrats Imma leave you here in Japan with no powers or abilities, and no legal existence. Enjoy being homeless and on the streets for the duration. Why am I doing this do you ask? Because you thought it was yours Benefactor, but it was me, Dio all along!

You might want to list the Riders in the war and what their Contracts/ Summons attacks and vents are at the end of the jump.

If you have to fight the other Riders, can't you just take their Cards after you defeat them to have more vent options and monsters?

What happens to the Seal Card? do you still have it? Does it go poof once you make a contract?

The mook monsters seem expensive monster with an attack that levels city blocks is 600 CP, the same cost as a 'swarm' of 4 of them, are those 4 as good as the one monster?
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>>51728803
>but I like shiny things.

Mardukth is a magpie just like the rest of us. I like knowing this.
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>>51728793
>Spoiler
No...no...
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>>51728770
>That Pic
>>51728813
>Rick and Morty jump when?
Hm. Rick and Morty crossover with SMT/Great Mind when?
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>>51728888
The short version to that first question is that it has a lot to do with what I haven't typed yet, and spoilers for the Gauntlet itself.

The narrative paints it that way, but it's not actually true. If you die at any point during Act 1, it time loops back to the beginning and you have a vague recollection of what killed you before. During Act 2, you're given a choice to either take back your powers in exchange for a higher Mirror Monster presence in the city, or keep fighting while depowered and get a Survive Card for your troubles. The difference is that taking your powers back turns this into a 'standard' jump from that point on, while Survive makes it follow the normal gauntlet rules where dying just means you get booted back to the chain. A big point here is that Shiro has a lot less power over you than he implied.

Blank is hard mode, yeah, but you still get the option to change back to normal in Act 2. Actually SOMEHOW ending the War without ever making a Contract or regaining your powers nets you a secret ending. It's EXTREMELY difficult, but possible. Hint: Get close to Yui and work your charisma when talking to Shiro. He's a lot less happy about this plan than he seems, especially since he's failed so many times before now.

Already in progress.

Their Decks go 'poof' after dying, or at least their Contracts.

Seal Card becomes irrelevant once you have a Contract, yeah. Your Monster protects you from other ones and you have to fight them anymore.

Pricing toku monsters is iffy.
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>>51728836
>spoiler
If my roommate is correct with his guess, probably not for another year or two.
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>>51728917
>Once in a thousand years the legend is fulfilled.
>And a saiyan is born who will not become a super saiyan.
>The legendary normal saiyan!
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>>51728381
>This is the current one
Why would a text one have priority over an imaged one?
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>>51728993

Tamerai, quick AF question. How strong are the soldiers you get from Alien Fleet?
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>>51728836
They've already released a black and white teaser.
It's weird. Weirder than normal, that is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-xREfdihtY
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>>51729016
About as strong as Goku at the start of Z
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A question about the Fate/Stay Night Jump.

The wording is a little vague, but as a Servant, could one take one of the canon masters as a Master Companion?
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>>51728836
There's also this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z91-IgdO1Wk
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>>51728996
Alright, I'll admit it, I laughed.
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>>51728975
>Their Decks go 'poof' after dying, or at least their Contracts.
Though if you somehow have spare Seal Cards, you can steal their decks by sealing their Mirror Monsters after they die. That's how Ouja managed to get powerful to remain a major threat even post-Survive.
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>>51729049

Cool.

Time to put them through Jumper Bootcamp! No subordinates of mine will be weaker than Raditz!
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>>51729097
You're thinking of Contract Cards, not Seal Cards and he got the Monsters, not their Decks (though he did get new cards for each new Advent). I'm still figuring that part out.
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>>51728129
>Technically, the seeds from Infernals can grow any inorganic material, not just metals. Just so long as you can fashion it into a spike.
>But yeah, Mordite would probably kill it. ...Probably.
I wonder if it could grow Eldar Wraithbone
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Rolled 6 (1d8)

>>51718125
149 Auralnauts Star Wars
Jedi
We Dance Like Jedi, ...Which Means that You Have a Lesser Amount -200, So Please Report to the Dance Floor -300, Dance Effects, Bad Singing, Lord of the Dance -400,
Emergency Gum, Ravesaber -100,
This place is kinda mad. At least there is always a party to find if I want to.
Continue
1 Tropico
2 SimAnt
3 The Room
4 Sekirei
5 Viking Saga
6 Tales of Demons and Gods
7 Sunrider
8 Generic Video Game Developer
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>>51729171
Tales of Demons and Gods. I need a new 6.
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>>51729166
You can sing that into being if you took the perk, either way whats wraithbone got over other materials?
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>>51729166
>Not going to Warhammer Fantasy
>Not growing Warpstone
0/10
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>>51728975
>Stuff
Ok. Also, the Vent section sacy you activate them by putting them in the visor and they stay there taking up space until you leave the mirror world? Do you have only so many slots, and can be locked out of using more vents because you used to many, or does using one overwrite another? (Like using a vent to give your monster a ranged attack, then using a sword card means the ranged attack goes away?)

So just their Advent cards go away. but you can take the melee/ranged/sealing cards for more options?

Can you buy ranged more than once, one for your monster, and once for you?

Have you thought about a "Prior Save Bonus" where you start with more CP if you were a Rider from prior jump(s), or at least the ID and apartment/staches, etc. from your prior existence in the world...
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>>51729142
>You're thinking of Contract Cards, not Seal Cards
Oh, right. Sorry, names get mixed around easily.

>he got the Monsters, not their Decks (though he did get new cards for each new Advent).
No, he got the rest of their decks, too. It's just that Raia and Gai didn't have very expansive decks, so he didn't get much out of it other than the new Mirror Monsters. Really, for all that they're called "decks", the Advent Decks are barely even hands. Ouja has the most cards of all the Riders after contracting Evildiver and Metalgelas, at a grand total of...thirteen. Thirteen cards, that's it.
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>>51729230
No, the card is just kinda...'gone' after you use it until you leave the Mirror World. Each Vent is a one-and-done, which is part of the reason Riders retreat after a fight. This will just be a short 'cooldown' post-jump and the card will be available again.

You can take them for more options in a fight, or if you get disarmed/cancelled out somehow.

No, but I did see while typing up the profiles that Zolda had more than one Shoot Vent, so I'll probably allow that to be purchased multiple times. I kind of wanted to make a Mirror Monster customizer, but this gauntlet is getting bulky enough already.

I am actually considering that 'Prior Save Bonus' now, though it may not come in the form of points. I'll give it some thought.

>>51729234
S'alright.

That is going to be a pain in the ass to balance for this, but I'll see what I can do. I think it'll work the same way as Ouja's did if you just snatch the Monsters of dead Riders. Not sure about the ones during build-making yet.
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>>51728606
The asuras wrath jump lets you be as old as the universe (shard of creator god), warhammer imperium has no drawback limit and a double time extension, so does generic xiaxia or such. I believe there is also a jump that gives you the memories of a billion year old being, and then the dragon ball multiverse jump. Go to universe one and take the time extension drawback. If memory serves the universe seperates from main canon when the buu is 'born'.
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>>51729049
Still might want to either boost or rename the item, if it is still 40 troops on 3 ships. Alien Grouchypuss Group! Alien Surprise Squad!
(Are the ships fully up, or do they have space for more troops/cargo space for plundered loot)

Oh, Alien Conquest Convoy!
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>>51729307
Do you mean Devil Survivor 2's Anguished One? Because he's a lot older then a billion years, considering he apparently invented fire. No, not discovered fire, invented fire.
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>>51729329
I've already updated it, there's now 524 soldiers across 41 ships
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>>51729334
Aye that's it. I'm on my phone so couldn't check my jumps.
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>>51729396
By my jumps I mean the ones I've made builds for not the actual jump. Just to clarify.
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>>51729218
>Warpstone
Explain?
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Guanlet; question about Read the Guide from Minish Cap, I know it doesn't tell you how you might apply out of context abilities to solve problems but does information from previous worlds disappear? For example if I am using the perk to guide my training with an ability from one world will the perk stop being useful for that purpose once I leave the setting the ability came from?
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>>51729622
Think Chaos in a physical form. Some landed in a meteor strike in WF a while back, completely FUCKED the city of Mordheim where it landed.
Skaven love the stuff, even use it as bullets. Just touching it will make most mutate wildly.
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>>51729622
It's like warhammer fantasy tiberium except it doesn't grow, it just corrupts things with magical chaos radiation.
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>>51729658
Nah, it'll tell you how to train the ability/power/etc. in context to the Jump you're in, so it won't hint at nifty synergy or anything like that unless it is local to the Jump, but as long as you /can/ train it the guide will show you how to do so..
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>>51729701
And using seeds of potetntial from exalted infernals he could totally grow it too!
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>>51729395
Which hybrid option will produce the strongest "you should not exist" reaction from the world at large?
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>Dragonball jumps are allowed now
>Still no Buttlord GT jump
Is there anyone here who wouldn't take Huge as a companion?
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>>51729696
...aww. That's really sweet.
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>>51729788
Talking about GT seems to trigger some people, so probably yes.
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>>51729725
Thanks! This gives me some great long term help for mastering D&D warlock abilities, they can get really cool at high levels and are innate to the user so there shouldn't be any issues training them in other settings.
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>>51729741
Probably Saiyan/Kaioshin, as that's exactly what Xicor is and he's supposed to be something like an ultimate lifeform. You'd need Potential & Ridiculous Power to complete a discount Xicor build, though.
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>>51729838
I thought he was a saiyan demon hybrid.
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>>51729907
No, he's a hybrid between Goku and the Western Supreme Kai after she stole his DNA
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>>51729937
Western kai pulled a baby momma scam? What the hell? Why?
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So theoretically, how would it effect the Metal Gear Rising jump if the Nazis got their hands on the ST-84 Custom in 1940?
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>>51729957
According to her, after Buu killed pretty much all of the Supreme Kais she realized that the only thing that mattered was strength, so she decided to find the strongest person in the universe and guide them. That was Frieza. After Goku beat him, she decided to steal his DNA and make Xicor, who she expects to be even stronger than Goku
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>>51730009
>expects to be stronger than Goku
To be fair, if she'd shown up at pretty much any other point in the series, she'd be right. As it is Goku seems to have developed SSJ5 in the dragon realm, so once he gets back... Well, I doubt Toyble will ever finish it so we won't know exactly how it goes, but we do know things work out well in the end.
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>>51729087
Okay, this might be a stupid question but... how do the imports for DDS work between parts? Do they get 400 to spend in each part, or just in whichever one you imported them, or something else entirely?
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>>51730113
That's not a stupid question at all. They get 400cp in both, just like you get 1000cp in both, except they can only spend it on perks in that part. For example, you couldn't buy perks from part 1 with point you got in part 2, or vice versa.
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Showa Part 1
Showa Part 2
Heisei Part 1
Kabuto
Neo-Heisei Part 1
Neo-Heisei Part 2
Gaim
Neo-Heisei Part 3
Skullman
Chroma Squad
Exalted - Infernals

So where else can I get me a Driver?
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The years of Jumping has to wear away at a person, especially without sanity perks. How would you rank you and your companions in terms of insanity, from most to least.
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>>51730172
Metroid and disGaia
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>>51730172
Disgaea has something like it, I think?
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>>51730171
Ah, thank you.

Great jump, DiSu!
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None of us are insane at all. I make it a point to get as many sanity perks as I can as soon as possible.
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>>51730220
No problem, anon, thanks-
>DiSu
>pic related
Nah, I kid. Mind posting a build though? Curious to see what it looks like.
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>>51730259
I'm a pretty slow thinker and indecisive, so it might take a while for me to actually write them, but sure.
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>>51723151
I'd read it.
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>>51730287
Take your time anon, I don't usually make builds myself so I get where your coming from. I appreciate you being willing to make one, though.
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>>51730195
The newest companions are generally the most sane, whereas everybody else is basically no longer human as far as sanity goes.
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Dr. McNinja Jump 079:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Knife Eye ATAAAACK! [+600]
Origin: Drop-In
Perks:
Astronaut [Free]
The Only Sane Man [-100]
Interdimensional Chrononaut [-300]
You Get Handsome [-600]
Ninja Tricks [-100]
Gear:
Ninja Mask [Free]
Astronaut Outfit [Free]

Companion Import [-100]
Misaka [300]
Origin: Sidekick
Perks:
High-Flying Sharpshooting Act [Free]
You Get Handsome [-300]

Ranma [300]
Origin: Radical Landsman
Perks:
Extreme Sports Enthusiast [Free]
Long Live The King [-300]

Fun facts
1. Ghost Wizards are not immune to magic.
2. I have a massive storage of positive energy, mostly joy, in my Hexagram Bracelet.
3. Ra Tilt is basically the Dragon Slave of Astral Realm damage.
4. I move faster than any of these Ghost Wizards.
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>>51728122
Nocturne it is.
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>>51728129
>That pic
>"See, I told you I could fix your broken fingernail!"
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>>51729907
There actually is a Saiyan/Demon hybrid within the canon series, of all places. Mira is an artificial demon who absorbs Saiyan DNA. Basically goes SSJ4 at one point.
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>>51729838
The All you can eat, how specific do you need to be on the choices?
Is Seafood a valid choice?
Or Sushi (all different types)?
Or only California Rolls made one certain way or something?
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>>51725602
>>51730259
While anon's still thinking it over... Here's my build?


Digital Devil Saga 2:

Atma Soldier [Carried Over]
>perks:
Hope even at the end [100] Even now there is hope for man.
A Whole New World [Free] This is fine.
A Shocking Development [100] Electrifying!
We’re Comrades… [300] Not dying, and strong bonds. Nice.
With Great Power, Comes Great Insanity [600] Mwahahaha...
Let’s go Fox Hunting! [100] ...I'm sure I can find something not-monstrous to do with this. Eventually. Probably.
>companions:
Companion Import Option x2 [100] Let's get some backup in on this.
>items:
Chakra Drop [50] Neat, I suppose.
Rifle [Free] Practical.
Lokapala Headquarters [150] Everyone needs a home base.
Karma Jet [300] As well as a fighter jet. What would people do without those?
>drawbacks:
The One who Stands Below God the Judge… [+800] Don't even really need all this CP, but I can never resist these big challenges. Besides, more demonic loyalty is never a bad thing.


I'm afraid I'm not too familiar with DDS, so I'm not too sure what I should be doing...

So I'll mainly just focus on murdering Satan, and helping Sera out if I can?

It's a fun jump, and I think I'll try and watch a let's play or something to figure out what's up later?
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>>51730525
Seafood might be too vague, but sushi would be fine. It doesn't have to be overly specific.
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>>51729838

That would cost at least 1650 with a Villain origin.
>500 for Saiyan or Kaioshin
>250 to be a Hybrid with the other
>300 for Ridiculous Power with Villain discount
>600 for Potential

You'd have to max out on drawbacks to get anything else you wanted.

Eh, no one said becoming OP would be easy.
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>>51725602
>I've Made My Choice!
Has missing word(s) halfway through the paragraph.
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>>51730543
Depends on whether you averted a certain event or not. During the story, Heat will kill, or nearly kill, Serph right in front of Sera's eyes. This will send a fresh wave of horror and despair through her, and since she's connected to God, that means that He feels all of it. At this point, He decides that mankind is beyond redemption, and begins turning the planet and everyone on it into data, and absorbing it into the Sun. Most of the Embryon are killed, Argilla and Roland die killing Indrajit, Heat dies due to a mortal wound given to him by Serph, Gale takes Angel with him, offering some comfort to her before she dies, and Cielo dies sacrificing himself to save Serph and Sera. From there, Serph and Sera transform into data, and on the way to the Sun merge into Seraph. There, with the rest of the Embryon, they unite and earn mankind another chance by fighting God.

So if you didn't avert that, your goal should be replicating what happened in canon. Otherwise, rescue Sera, and then get her to communicate with God. She can calm his rage, though you'll need someway to augment her powers.

Thanks for the build, anon! I appreciate it.

>>51730612
Ah, I'll make sure to fix that, then. Thanks.
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>>51730611
My build cost 2200. Your damn right it won't be easy.
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>>51730585
Would pasta be too vague?
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>>51730673
Go with what you think best anon.
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>>51730585
I choose Sandwiches all of the Sandwiches, All the Sushi (especially the really rare Japanese stuff)
What would make a good third?
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>>51730664

Can we see your build?
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>>51730708
Tea, all the tea.
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Right, this should fix that pesky text issue. For some reason, italicized words just do not show up in this pdfs. I don't know why.
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So, can someone explain some SMT to someone who is completely lost in all of this? Are demons "real", or just virtual constructs? Did they exist before computers? Why is everything digital? Is there some kind of "spirit realm" they go to when not manifested? Are they around in the time between apalocalypses? When did people discover magnetite and other things were necessary to keep them around? Is this shit sufficiently advanced or what is generally understood as "supernatural"? I tried reading the wiki, but everything seems disconnected, and it only made less sense.
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>>51730733
Yeah sure. I also just realized I didn't give my companion as much as she could take, so I gave her some stuff

Origin: Drop In
Age: 18
Race: Saiyan/Frieza race hybrid

Perks:
Weird Guy
Willpower
Go Further Beyond
Reduced Form
Go All Out
Potential

Companion Import:
Navah(OC) as a Saiyan Z Warrior, she has Go Further Beyond, Behold My Power, and Welcoming Party

Items:
Dragon Ball AF Manga
Gravity Chamber
Hyperbolic Time Chamber

Drawbacks:
Hungry Hungry Saiyan
Ugly Color Scheme
Caught in the Crossfire
Frieza's Army
Villain Mode
Villains of the Past
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>>51730808
Reality is data.
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>>51730259
I don't really post builds anymore because they tend to be boring to tick people off, but just for you DSA. Just because you indulge me in my quest to grab what I can to be the best demon ever.

(Digital Devil Saga: Part 2) #62
-Background: Atma Soldier (Free) -Oh. Oh well. Shit. This... shit.
-Over Stress (800CP) -Reducing the physical strain that my abilities give would be a boon.
-A Whole New World (Free) -Adapting to new surroundings easier? I'm gonna need this.
-Rise Against (600CP) (Discount) -It appears someone needs to get this ragtag group in order.
-Chakra Drop (550CP) -A magic restorer is nice.
-Medical Pod (350CP) -Well well. This will be useful to have.
-E.G.G. System (50CP) -Not to talk to God. But it could be useful for other things.
-Rifle (Free) -I guess we all need something.
-Lokapala Headquarters (-100CP) (Discount) -I might enhance this over time.
-Ghosts Spotted (0CP)
Dice Rolls: -
-End Choice: Next Adventure

It was pretty much "grab the underground base, stuff the E.G.G. in the warehouse, then try and help people out while taking out all the Karma people coming after me". And by "taking out", I mean pic related thanks to Atma.
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>>51730821

Wait, I thought when it came to Hybrids you could only buy a race that cost the same as the first race you chose?
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>>51730900
Doesn't it say the same or less than?
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>>51730870
*tend to be boring AND tick people off
Mother fucker. Hands. Brain. You had one job.
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>>51730900
Equal to or lower
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>>51730924

You're right.

I read it wrong. Nevermind.
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Jump: World of Cultivation
Location: Bloody Sky Metropolis Jie
Age roll: 18

>Build
Background: Body Cultivating Xiu

Perks:
Strong Back
Medicinal Body Enhancement
Chant Of Buddha
Wish Power
Flesh Carving
My Body Is A Sword
Cultivation by Leaps and Bounds
Play Nice
Basic Cultivation Method

Items:
Body Tempering Robes, Rare Flying Sword of the Jumper (Import Trusty Blade), Black Cultivation Mat.

Drawbacks:
Added time, Sadistic pen pal, Stars in the daytime, War comes, Voice in your head

>Cultivation Method: Spark Blade Cultivation

Focus:
Body, Sword, Mind

Effects:
Permanent Tempering, Elemental Enhancement (Lightning), Charge, Boost Mode, Extended Range, Script
Abnormal Physical Mutation: Spark Heart. The subject's heart is gradually altered through its channeling of lightning ling energy into an organ more closely resembling an organic turbine rather than a pump, which more efficiently moves blood and ling throughout the cultivator's body.

Cultivation Method:
Meditation
Automatic Tempering: The Spark Heart pulses a spark of elemental lightning ling through the body's ling circulatory system with every beat.

Aesthetic:
Aesthetic Construct: While actively using this cultivation, lightning flashes underneath the cultivator's skin like sheet lightning within a storm cloud. Blades of ling energy created through Sword Focus/My Body Is A Sword and the script resemble flashes or bolts of lightning.

Flaws:
Deadly teaching requirements (The aspirant's heart must be flesh carved with seals in order to start its transformation into a Spark Heart, and so it is receptive to the second requirement)
Deadly teaching requirements (The Aspirant must be struck by a bolt of lightning, or at least a massive lightning attack)

I'd appreciate any feedback on the fluff of the Cultivation Method.
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Do we have any good non-magical/mystical (i.e. no ki or lifeforce stuff) sources of clairvoyance/scrying?
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>>51730870
Thanks, Red! I appreciate you taking the time to make this build. Sounds like you have pretty good system going on there, though I am curious, I thought you wanted to grab the Atma Virus? The knowledge on how to replicate it comes with completing the Fallen Angel drawback.

Also, your builds really aren't boring, don't beat yourself up like that. Like, your FEAR build, where you were fighting desperately against both inner and outer demons. That was fun.
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>>51730845
So, demons in SMT are literally digimon?
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>>51730966
I think Heroes has something that runs on genetics, but that's the only non-mystical/magical thing I can think of.
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>>51730975
No, anon, reality is data. Everyone and everything in SMT is data. This was more blatantly a thing in DeSu 2 and DDS 2.
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>>51730870
>tend to be boring to tick people off
Redbuilds, the Audio book!
Narrated by Ben Stein in Ferris Buellers Day Off style...
>Atma Soldier...
Atma Soldier?...
Soldier...
Soldier...
Soldier...
>>51730925
>tend to be boring AND tick people off
Ah, Ok. That is less amusing.
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New jumper, how do discounts work? I'm not seeing it in any of the foundational documents, nor in this or the previous thread.
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>>51730966
Seer from EMH. You can fluff powers in that jump as whatever you want, up to and including latent omnipotence.
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>>51730742
>Tea, all the tea
1 Tea is not a food for you to eat.
2 Tea sucks.
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>>51731021
Basically, discounts on most stuff is half off, except for 100cp perks, which are free, usually.
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>>51730969
>The knowledge on how to replicate it comes with completing the Fallen Angel drawback.
>mfw
...mother. Fucker. I didn't even see that.

Whelp, time to comb through my old stuff and question if I even can redeem her. Plus it might seem super weird that someone who has plunged head first into demonhood is trying to convince her. Fuck me, I need to think about this.

>>51731017
Yeah, no. I meant to say "tend to be boring and tick people off". Plus I haven't shown work on MCU2 in some time so it feels... kind of attention-whorey to be posting builds without showing much progress. And there's enough of THAT going around as is that I don't feel the need to enter that kind of competition.
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>>51731036
Chicken, then. Or is that too broad?
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>>51731021
Discounts are 50% off.

Usually, 100cp perks are free instead of discounted.
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>>51731047
To be fair, your idea of demonhood is a bit different then hers. To be more specific, she wants to plunge the world into an endless war, where Tuners will abandon sanity and morality to endlessly fight, eat, and kill each other. So, even as a demon, you still have some ground to stand on, unless you also want to create such a world. In which case...
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>>51731036
>2 Tea sucks.
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>>51722954
Most of the time I would answer Baking. I love sweets and thanks to Metavore I don't have to watch what I eat, so I tend either have a jar full of cookies and a pie or two in the fridge, or both in the oven.

I still use my Grandmother's recipe for snickerdoodles.

I was forced to give up my hobby of making Food-based Magical Weaponry after the Jell-O Jiggler Raptors escaped. Raven was not amused, even though no one was harmed. Turns out even Raptors can't maul much with Jell-O claws.
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>>51731091
You're an adorable person, Yorokonde.
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>>51731052
>too broad?
If seafood is to broad, chicken probably is also.

Maybe Ice Cream, Cake, or Pastries?
All if those are a pretty defined thing, that have variety within them.
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>>51731083
>So, even as a demon, you still have some ground to stand on, unless you also want to create such a world. In which case...
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck that. Okay I see your point. Still, gotta think on how I'd actually do that. Hum...
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>>51729937
>stole his DNA
Is that what they're calling it now? I'm more a fan of struggle snuggle.
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>>51731130
She literally stole some blood after he fell asleep eating all the food she gave him.
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>>51731130
She literally cuts his neck and steals his blood, though for the longest time before I read it I thought the same
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So, what did your Atma Avatar look like in Digital Devil Saga, jumpers? Did you go with the canon look of "important people have no eyes, stand on their tip toes, and probably have mouths in places mouths aren't supposed to go"? Did you go for a copy of a standard SMT demon like the majority of enemies and all the optional bosses did? Or did you make your own aesthetic?
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>>51731161
Mara.
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>>51730331
DitZu 3 - Digital Devil Saga Part 1 - 1000 CP

Background:
26 Years Old, Male, Demon Warrior, Demon Form: Azumi - I'm already a cannibal demon merman pirate. This can't be that bad, right?

Perks:
Angel's Favor (800) - Ominous.
Mind Over Body (700) - Ditto.
Power Born of Madness - I feel like I should just turn down the freebie for once, just so I don't get any habits.
I'm going to tear you apart! (500) - This is going to go great with Break Your Barricade.
Devil Warrior (200) - Already doing this.
Two bodies are better than one! (0) - I... oh, screw it. This is awesome!

Companions:
Companion Import Option x1 (-50)
Kira Kira
Demon Warrior, Demon Form: Kelpie
Mind Over Body, Devil Warrior

Items:
Macca (-100) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8
Mantra Rank 1 - Bolt Spirit.

Drawbacks:
Hungry Hungry Jumper - Oh.
De-mon! (0) - ...

Take the plot of the first game and add a fish monster to the mix. There's my stay.

Second build goes past the letter limit. Soon.
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>>51731198

DitZu 3 - Digital Devil Saga Part 2 - 1000 CP

Background:
Demon Warrior - I know this is just kneejerking, and I probably should think it through, but I really want to collectively rip the Karma Society a new one.

Perks:
Hope even at the end (900) - I am not an island.
With Great Power, Comes Great Insanity (600) - Kraken. This feels like bringing a nuke that irradiates the mind and soul to a fist fight, but it's also fucking awesome, so who cares!
Sera...where is Sera? (0) - I wonder... what would someone feel, when they realize the demon they fear and despise is a thousand times better than the real deal?
...Ow, I think I just cut myself on that one

Companions:
Kira Kira
Demon Warrior, Kaiju Form: Nuckelavee. Sea monsters, represent!
Hope even at the end, With Great Power/ Comes Great Insanity

Items:
Lance Gun

Drawbacks:
ADMIN I.D.: BRAHMAN

So. I'm gonna be honest here. I... never actually finished DDS1. Which means I never even started on DDS2, and- well, the point here is that I have no idea what's going on far as the big picture is concerned. I'm probably gonna try to stop the whole fuck up that resulted in God giving up entirely on mankind and get Heat's head on straight, get a society that isn't complete butts going, and generally help the protags since they've seem to have a good...a better handle on it all than me, but that's about it.

And before someone asks: I wrote DitZu 3 instead of Jump 3 because this is in a mini-arc for DSA's jumps and it makes for easier reordering if I realize I'm out of my depth.
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>>51731198
>>51731217
>DitZu
Pic related
Looks good, anon. Wait, what were the other two jumps?
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>>51731145
>>51731156

It would be funny if she showed up with Baby Xicor at Goku's house during GT or the epilogue of Z asking for child support.
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>>51731237
Devil Survivor 1 and 2. Generic Children's TV will probably go right after this, followed by Soul Nomad/Nocturne. Although I feel like that second one might be a bad idea for what currently is Jump 7/8.
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>>51731278
Yeah, that's...probably not a good idea. Might want to save that until later.

Also, give me a few minutes, I've got to go do something, and then I'll come back and try to explain DDS1 and 2's plot so you can make a proper build.
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>>51731101
I try, Anon. Some days it's easier than others.
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>>51731021
50% off.

Some jumps may offer 100cp perks/items for free to their origin/background, it'll be mentioned in the jump if this is the case.
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>>51731047
>Plus I haven't shown work on MCU2 in some time so it feels...
You need a break. Take a day off. A...
Ferris Bueller's Day off!
*Takes off Sunglasses*
Your mission, should you choose to accept it
*Presses Red's finger on Accept Button*
Is to make a Mini Vacation Gauntlet based off Ferris Beuller's Day Off, where Jumper will be enrolled in High School as a Senior, his Body Mod, all skills that could be practiced by a healthy young adult pre-jumper version of himself, and are possible in a pre-jump world.
With 0 CP. The goal, take a school day off to have fun and enjoy yourself! Take some complications to gain abilities, items, maybe even companions, but the gauntlets failure condition is you have to avoid any Official Punishment during your time here, so be careful! You will keep the memories, everything you purchased with that hard earned CP will stay behind if that happens.
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>>51731274
Eh.

I'm pretty sure you can learn to use any 'color' of magic by default, it's just that walkers (and everyone else) are more talented in their colors than the others.
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>>51731067
>Usually, 100cp perks are free instead of discounted.
>>51731310
>Some jumps may offer 100cp perks/items for free to their origin/background, it'll be mentioned in the jump if this is the case.
Ha, you wish. Jumpmaker have gotten bad about including that stuff even when it is supposed to be the case. Like I have had to point it out in more than one jump that you need to include that stuff, because that just subconciously assumed that. About the only one I know that left it out intentionally and meant for the 100 CP Perks and Items to NOT be free to their Origin was some of Cenaanona jumps.
Other have just forgot, or even responded when asked in thread that the 100 CPs were supposed to be free, but never bothered to update the jump pdf...
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>>51731274
Feels... not just generic, but bland.

fwiw, scenarios are lopsided; Blue and Black require achieving absolutes while the others do not.
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Sometimes, particularly older jumps, Drop-in's don't get a free skill. Usually it's still discounted, but the original intent seems to have been that it was that the free skills were compensation for the cp you paid for the background. Since drop-in was free, no freebie.

That said, i'm super glad this changed, and I'm also super happy that often, there isn't even a background charge.
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>>51731441
True, though it is important to keep in mind that "100s are free to their background" isn't a thing that always applied. Hmm. Anyone know which was the first jump to introduce it?
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>>51731536
The very 1st one, Pokemon Trainer.
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>>51731274
...There is something heavily flawed with this. Assuming you're the creator and not just stirring shit.

If I get my Spark at the *start* of the gauntlet, then die, I keep jumping and can take another End Jump option?
So it's an end jump with training wheels?

If we get the spark at the start of the gauntlet and can travel the blind eternities, why does it say
"This particular Gauntlet can be applied to any Jump, though if you choose not to apply it to an
existing jump then you must complete it in the world of your origin"

The Blue or Black objectives seem WAY more difficult than the others.
I buy White, then chose my world to be ARIA or some other already peaceful world and win automatically? I buy Red, and choose Mad Max or another post apoc world and win automatically?

All of the drawbacks a beyond bland. No rival planeswalkers? No duels with other colour-using mages?

>>51731536
Literally the first one, Pokemon.
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>>51731483
I don't get why they're even called scenarios or even there in the first place.
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>>51731274
You might want to explain how it works at the start, instead of part of it at the end and other bits of explanation all through. Also the goals are... a bit vague. The omnipotent/omniscience ones especially are... terrible ideas.

As >>51731579 points out there are lots of issues with the actual goals, and the drawbacks are just... bad... Also, going back to how this works, can you do one goal in one jump, then another in another jump seven jumps later? Do the drawbacks stay with you for the entire time or only jumps in which you're doing goals?

It's an... interesting idea, but needs some work.
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>>51731305
>>51731198
>>51731217
Alright, I'm back. So, the big picture is that the Lokapala and Embryon are fighting against the Karma Society, who hold Sera captive and terrorize the population. The Karma Society is actually being split up into two factions, one led by Cuvier who wants to use Sera's power to calm God's rage and allow them to rule, while the other led by Angel wants to infect everyone with a virus and plunge the world into eternal war.

Continued in next post.
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>>51731274
>snugg
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>>51731557
>>51731579
Technically not, as Pokemon Trainer didn't offer 100s free to ALL backgrounds and it charged 50cp for non-dropin backgrounds; as the freebies went to non-dropin backgrounds, if you took your "freebie" you were still paying 50cp net for it.
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>>51731274
The rewards are beyond worthless. Instead of buying Black in the gauntlet, it would be much faster to win an easier scenario like Red or White, then just planeswalk to a MTG world and learn black magic the normal way. Nevermind that a jumper could already have many superior magic systems anyway.

There's also the fact that end jumps are supposed to be challenges. This lets you spark in Generic Sugarbowl by killing all the smurfs. The only real challenges are blue and black, which are basically impossible.

Finally, the prerequisites don't make sense. To take White I have to devote a jump to justice and heroism. Does that mean I spent a previous jump doing that? That I have to do that in the gauntlet? Why even bother with a requirement like that at all?
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>>51731647
Huh, though that would be longer. Oh well.

After a few skirmishes, like the breakout and taking of the Karma Society Prison/Meat Factory, the Embryon storm the Society itself, battling with Heat and Cuvier's minions. This eventually leads to the group finally reaching Sera, but before they can truly rescue her, Heat seemingly kills Serph. This causes Sera to experience yet another breakdown, as her despair and grief causes God to decide that humanity needs to die, and needs to die now. Using the very system that the Karma Society wanted to use to download data from God, God begins to turn the entire planet into data. Cuvier collapses with horror and guilt, before being killed by Angel. From there, the Embryon try to stop the data flow by shutting down the power for the systems doing so, but it doesn't work, and what's worse, Angel releases the Indrajit. Sera gains a form similar to that of Serph, but Argilla and Roland are forced to sacrifice their lives to kill Indrajit.

The group then goes to try to reach the E.G.G. so that Sera can talk to God, but Heat has mutated and wrecked it in his new Vritra form. Serph finds the truth about his original self as the Embryon fight Heat, and with the original Heat defeats both Original Serph and Fake Serph. Then then ends up cutting his way out of Vritra, mortally wounding Heat in the process. Heat and Serph make peace with each other before Heat dies, and then the Embryon decide to go to the one last place where they can try and reach God.

On the way there, Gale and Angel end up killing each other, with Gale turning out to be the reincarnation of Jenna's lost love, David Gale. She ends up gaining some peace from this, however, so there's that at least. Serph, Sera, and Cielo fly towards their last hope, but three fighter jets flown by agents of the Karma Society follow them, and Cielo has to sacrifice his life to save Serph and Sera.


Continued in the next post.
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>>51731668
Infamous, then, is the first one to have EVERY background get their 100cp perk for free.
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>>51731274
>>51731579
It has some potential, but is bland and unclear. Do actions of previous jumps count, or do you have to do this in later jumps to count?

I like the Idea of actions from previous jump being where you get your points to buy abilities for the jump.
Like make the Jumper Points I have joked about from time to time real.

Redeem a Plot Important Villian in a prior jump? X amount White Jumper Points.
Pull a Hard Men doing Hard Things while Hard? X Amount Black (or Colorless) Jumper Points.

There would be Perk ant Item trees for the 5 colors and colorless. Your points are discounted if used to buy the matching color perk/item.
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I got a problem with the Minecraft jump, the Wither is a thousand point disad but disads are stopped at 600. What gives?
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>>51731198
>>51731217
>>51731647
>>51731696
Right, this should be the last one. As it turns out, their last hope is too late. God begins converting the area in to data, it seems like all is lost, and Sera begins to give in to despair...only for Serph to embrace her, giving her new hope. The two end up using the system to convert themselves into data, aiming themselves at the Sun. Going together, they manage to break past God's firewall, so to speak, and end up merging, becoming Seraph. They end up meeting with all their old friends from both the Junkyard and the new world, the Embryon gain new powers from their old friends and newly converted enemies, and proceed to fight their way to the center of the Sun, battling old enemies to reach God. Once there, God, also known as Brahman, briefly speaks with Sera[h, but reveals that words alone will no longer reach Him. Seraph and the Embryon must defeat Him in battle to earn mankind another chance. Once they do so, Seraph achieves enlightenment, but splits off from Serph and Sera, becoming their own being, and allowing the two to reincarnate into the world, which God/Brahman then fixes. The epilogue shows Fred, the young boy who served as a guide to the Embryon in the new world, now an adult, taking care of the reincarnated Embryon (and Angel). The game ends with the world fully healed, and everyone getting a new chance.

Ho boy. That should be it, I think.
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>>51731710
Touche.
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Reminder that Demons from Dragonball, while they don't have god ki at the start like kaioshen do, if they absorb enough combat energy (the kili stuff you saw Babidi talk about), they can transform into a Demon God which DOES possess god ki.

Not sure if any of the jumps let you be a demon yet or not, but if ever you can, that's an alternative option to Kai and Saiyan for those who want the top-tiers.
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>>51731746
You can take it, but you still only get 600 for it?
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>>51731696
What I find hilarious about Cielo's sacrifice is that when you meet him again in the Sun in his Solar Data form he acknowledges how unnecessary it was. "Why the hell did I ram those jets? I have lasers. Magic lasers. Why didn't I just shoot them with my magic lasers?"
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>>51731710
And is also a really early jump. And also by the started of jumpchain.

The 100 CP items were an outgrowth of that, when they started getting grouped into perk lines like the Perks instead of being more of a grab bag with just a few discounts to each background.
And was also an early innovation with the Infamous jump.
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>>51731780
Yeah, I thought that was funny, too. I mean, it was still a cool moment, but it was also hilarious to see him acknowledge that it might not have been his brightest idea.
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>>51731759
I have a question... why does angel have a dick? I never got that why not have David Gale be Sera's dad?
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>>51731746
In cases like that it is assumed that a specific Disadvantage exceeding a Disadvantage cap gives you it's full points if you take it. (And makes taking any other disadvantage for points pointless)

Some do more, buy saying they do not count against the disadvantage cap at all.
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>>51731759
...Oh. Boy.

Thank you for the synopsis, DeSu.

Seems like helping Heat through his baggage (and everyone else too, really) has gone from just something you do to a friend, to a full-blown objective for me.
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>>51731759
>spoilers

H'oh. H'ooooh boy. So uh... How do Drop-Ins, being Sera's sibling, factor into that? Do we just stand back and watch as our sibling goes ham on God?
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>>51731804
Perfection of self is often depicted as a combination of the male and female halves into one whole. Thus Angel is meant to be representative of false enlightenment, just like Seraph is meant to represent true enlightenment.
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>>51731851
*in Dharmic religions, meant to say. Nowhere else is it really the case.
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>>51731804
This anon >>51731851 has the right of it. Plus, they started dating after the Black Sun crisis started, which meant that Angel had already impregnated herself and given birth to Sera nearly two decades ago, so there's that as well.

...I can't believe I actually just typed that last part.

>>51731829
Yeah, it's uh...kind of a mess.

>>51731846
Well, you get an Atma form as well in part 2, so you can either just chill with everyone else and wait for Seraph and the Embryon to save the day, or go with them to fight God.
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>>51731759
>Everyone getting a new chance
Nah, reincarnation is death, so those are new people getting their chance.
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>>51731804
It's probably part of the Hinduism influence that Digital Devil Saga draws on, Hinduism has a lot of stuff about the union of masculine and feminine energies in one entity as being part of enlightenment. Transcendence of duality and all that. Granted, it's usually not literal but just a symbolic union of energies, but there are several deities that are that. Appropriately, Jenna Angel's Atma Avatar is one of them (Harihara, a union of Shiva and Vishnu into one being), as is Seraph's (Ardhanari, a fusion of Shiva and Parthavi).
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>>51731874
Hot opinions bro. Not that I disagree per say, but it's clear that reincarnation is viewed at in a more positive light in this setting.
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>>51731846
>>51731866
Alternatively, just prevent things from getting that bad and then talk to God with Sera. He's willing to talk up until that thing with Heat.

>>51731874
Hey, I'm just going with what the game itself has, your personal beliefs are your own, man.

Captcha, are you seriously asking for a baseball bat and then showing a bird's eye image of a baseball game? Really?
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>>51731887
It irritates me when that happens because reincarnation is not even supposed to be a good thing in the real religions. It's something you want to transcend and escape.
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>>51731769
Dragonball has demons?
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>>51731874
Diesels need diesels, and gas motors need gasoline. If you supply the wrong fuel to the engine, you are not insightful for noting that it doesn't work. You are a dumbass for using the wrong fuel.
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>>51731759
Don't forget that the cat was an alien all along. Maybe not a space alien, it's unclear what exactly it is, but definitely an enlightened being from another world.
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>>51731905
Remember Dabura from the Buu Arc? The big pink demon guy with the M on his forehead?
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>>51731917
oh yeah
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>>51731910
Nice bad analogy.
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>>51731905
Stuff from HFIL. Dabura is the only named one I can remember off-hand, but I think the Otherworld has plenty of onis.
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>>51731913
Actually, I believe the cat's true identity was Seraph from the future. Or maybe it just took on their form, it wasn't really explained.
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>>51731900
That's a simplification. Different dharmic religions have different takes on it. While most agree that escaping the wheel of karma is the desirable end goal, there's often nothing wrong with going through it another round to refine your spirit more if you're not yet able to escape it. These people haven't attained enlightenment yet, they shouldn't be leaving samsara until they do so. So they're given another chance to live their lives and seek peace and happiness in hope that they'll get it right this time.
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>>51731943
>they're given another chance
But they're not. Those individuals have died and been erased. New people with new personalities and memories are now living lives.
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>>51731931
>Stuff from HFIL
Oh, that part of Dragon Ball was so funny.
Sticking all the bad guys in a place called the Home for Infinite Losers and treating it like an old folks home, complete with Athletic Directors.
>I am the dreaded Freiza,
Now you are a bodyless little mote of light unable to interact with anyone, or even be understood by anyone except the staff, have fun being irrelevant for the rest of forever!
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>>51731966
But they haven't been erased. It's the same soul. The fact that during life they can't access the memories of past lives doesn't change the fact that in the bardo all lives are one. They're just temporarily forgetting who they are, not permanently.
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>>51731887
I think it depends a lot on how it effects the soul. Like, ego death is bad, m'kay, but I could totally buy the theory that souls have some kind of vaguely defined "existence" or individual essence that transcends an individual lifetime. The platonic ideal of "you," if you will, that's above anything physical and is everything you currently are or could be. The "you" right now is a result of the purest form of your being as expressed through the imperfect form of a human existence. If that form of yourself is gaining or learning something through reincarnation, then I don't think ego death sounds THAT bad, you know?

I have no idea how it works in that setting, but that's what I think about reincarnation.
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>>51732011
>It's the same soul.
That's meaningless. That's like claiming that you ARE all those dead stars that fused the elements you're made of, or that those worms that eat you when you die ARE you just because they have the material that made you integrated into their bodies.

A person is defined by their self, their memories and personalities. Not a soul, and not a body. None of those are them.
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>>51731769
>Heroes introduces a God Ki powered Namekian form
>It just involves red irises and a purple aura.
Well that's boring as shit, but if you want to take that at face value to indicate namekians can obtain it, go ahead.

That just leaves Humans, Androids, and, funny enough, Majins, as the weakest of the main races as all others can get god ki.
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...okay so I have a question. And I don't know if there is a proper answer because this is a retarded question.

So we all know how the Seedbed of Chaos from DS3 works, yes? Lots of lava, things buried turns into demons, yada yada? Now let's just assume for a moment that I put the Lokapala HQ and stuff it in there, to have an empty underground demon town eventually. Now we know Dark Cloud 2's 'Hell, Ward Level 5' with the 'Demons!' addon is an underground mine town that is also filled with demons.

Problem is. This potentially runs afoul from the Time Accelerated Spirit Garden from Generic Xianxia which I feel guilty even using, no I didn't take the time drawback because fuck that thing which only accelerates time if there's no one sapient inside. Yes garden sprites from Atelier Arland/Harvest Moon or the item itself doesn't seem to count, but what about the demon populace from DC2? What about the Jurai tree from Tenchi? Would things like that count?

I may have to replan things if they do count. But answers would be appreciated.
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I just want to say that I hate the idea of karma-based reincarnation, because it carries with it the implication that anyone who has a shitty life must have done something bad in a previous life, and thus deserves it.

Also, suffering through a shitty life being good karma seems like a justification for intense social stratification.
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>>51732057
>suffering through a shitty life being good karma seems like a justification for intense social stratification.
Because it is. See the caste system.
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>>51732055
Shouldn't that be something you decide for yourself? I know when I was using the Seedbed with the Starscourge for Stellar Fire Weapons I only used time acceleration in a limited fashion for growth. Using a fully accelerated realm just lacks flexibility for me personally.
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>>51732009
I kind of want a special 0 CP drawback for Dragon Ball that lets you trade 1-up perks for the ability to be revived by the Dragon Balls.

Have 3 1-up perks? You can die and be wished back 3 times before you get a game over, though you can't make use of those extra life perks even if you want to, and you hang out in the afterlife in between those wishes.
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>>51732036
If this were a monist universe, you'd be right. But we're talking about one where souls exist, where there is an core of your being that is not related to the memories processed and stored by any particular brain. There are aspects of their essential selfhood that persist beyond the change in form. It's true, a person is the pattern that they are made of, not the matter that goes into that pattern. But the pattern can exist anywhere. Perhaps it is not fully reproduced in any incarnation (save, again, in the bardo where all lives are reunited), but the pattern goes on.
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>>51732011
>It's the same soul
>>51732036
>A person is defined by their self, their memories and personalities.
This is a bit of a "Dark City" issue.
If all your memories are removed and replaced, what if anything carries over. Do you have the same personality? Do you still have the same moral viewpoints about right and wrong?
You could say you are the soul if the core you stays the same, but that is seldom proven in many cases of Reincarnation.
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>>51732055
I don't think the demons from DC2 count as sapient, especially since the garden sprites don't count for that. I'm not familiar with the Jurai tree, though, so I can't answer that.
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>>51732083
Well all I'd need to do if I didn't want it accelerated is just to leave the door open. It's a fairly easy fix, I just wasn't sure if a Jurai Tree or those demons from the mines counted and I didn't want to just assume.

Also what the hell is a Starscourge?
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>>51732104
I think it's a space virus from the newest Final Fantasy game that can turn people into demons or something.
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Rolled 6 (1d8)

Rollan for a jump
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>>51732096
>but that is seldom proven in many cases of Reincarnation.
Well, it is proven here. That's kind of a big theme in the games, that continuity of core traits exists in every incarnation of a person. Except Serph, because it turns out he's not really the reincarnation of Serph Sheffield but actually a completely new being that Sera created in Serph's image as a response to learning that her idealized view of him was false and the real Serph was a huge bastard that was only using her. But he's the one exception, everyone else is real.
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>>51731274
In addition to the massive flaws others have pointed out the "modifies other jumps" gimmick is rather stupid and easily gamed. Especially if you're under regular Gauntlet protections and therefore can just load up on fifty billion drawbacks for whatever jump you do it in and then let yourself die. Maybe just set it in the MtG Multiverse?
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>>51732055
Well, Jurai trees and Dark Cloud 2 demons and what not are sapient, so I'd say the Time Accelerated Spirit Garden shouldn't activate. Then again, your Lokapala Seedbed of Chaos is underground, so maybe say that the above-ground Garden is in accelerated time and it just doesn't go down far enough into the soul to affect the rest.
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>>51731769

Frieza Race is actually top tier as well.

Golden Frieza would have stomped SSGSS Goku and Vegeta had Frieza bothered to take the time to master that form.

Sadly he was too lazy and over eager for revenge
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>>51732173
>Sadly he was too lazy
Story of Frieza's life.
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>>51732173
>Sadly he was too lazy
Story of Frieza's-

>>51732182
DAMN IT.
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What's your benefactor like /jc/?

Mine is actually my Spark randomly jumping and absorbing cosmic power into itself to mature and refine it's final transformation.

If the thread ends before I get many replies, I'll just repost this.

Pic is mostly unrelated.
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>>51732192
VICTORY!
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Why do people have to scream when they power up?
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>>51732202
It's to show how emotional they're being.

Because transformations require emotion.
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>>51732055
>What about the Jurai tree from Tenchi? Would things like that count?
That I would think stop acceleration only once it became fully intelligent. Putting in spirit beasts to become more powerful over time would have the same issue, where if one crossed an intelligence threshold, the acceleration stops.

I would treat demons the same way. Some are human level intelligent, some are not. Only the human level ones stop the acceleration.

About the time thing, I think anything around 4,000 years or less is ok, mainly because of the Xianxia called 40 Millenniums of cultivation. you would be taking 40 centuries of cultivation as a nod to it.
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>>51732104
Seems like it would depend on whoever made Generic Xianxia to rule on what's allowed and what isn't then. Starscourge was from the FFXV jump, one of the capstones lets me use it to make large scale weapons.
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>>51732091
If it's not reproduced then it's not them. Simple stuff.
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>>51732222
Okay, but it is reproduced, is my point.
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>>51732173
Well like it's pointed out in >>51732049 , every race but those three listed have god forms.
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>>51732198
dead
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>>51732112
Oh.

>>51732152
>>51732212
>Well, Jurai trees and Dark Cloud 2 demons and what not are sapient, so I'd say the Time Accelerated Spirit Garden shouldn't activate.
>That I would think stop acceleration only once it became fully intelligent. Putting in spirit beasts to become more powerful over time would have the same issue, where if one crossed an intelligence threshold, the acceleration stops.
Okay, the demons I can see. So I probably shouldn't even think about moving those in. The tree though... fuck. I mean it's a fucking tree. Yeah it's a kickass tree, but it's a tree. ...damn it. Going to need to figure something out.

>>51732215
It doesn't seem like they're around that much.
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>>51732231
But it's not. They don't have those memories.
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>>51732198
They tend to change on a case-by-case basis.

I think the most 'famous' benefactor I've had was with the Erased chain, who basically wiped out entire universes out of spite when they didn't get their way. Turned out they were a broken-down creation of the Chousin Experiment that was actually unable to create anything of its own, only change and destroy things, hence why most perks and items were just things lifted wholesale from the worlds that were jumped. Making a Spark happen was their only goal - and it was doomed to fail once the Gamemaster arrived at Tenchi.

Then I got bored and never wrote that part out, so I'll probably do something else with that someday.
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>>51732252
But they have the rest of it. You've got more neural patterning than just the bits you think of as "memories". Fuck, your episodic memory is one of the smallest and least-supported portions of your brain, to pin your self-identity on it is pathetic. I am me, regardless of whether I know how I came to be me.
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Minecraft Jump
[Background]
Miner 50
[Biome]
The Nether (1d8: >>51732121 ;6)
[Perks]
Strength of Steve 0
Crafting Table 100
Lore of Alex 100
Nether Eye 50
Inventory of Steve 100
Stamina of Steve 200
Heart of Steve300
[Items]
Tool Pack 50 (d)
-Aqua Affinity 25 (d)
-Efficiency 25 (d)
-Fortune 50 (d)
-Fire Aspect 50 (d)
-Infinity 50 (d)
-Knockback 50 (d)
[Drawbacks]
Non-Premium Account +50
Chunk Loading +50
Blocky Graphics +100
[Future]
Creative Mode (Remain)


I just recreated Steve and gave him some bonuses to boot.

That was fun.
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>>51732198
Mine is the future me, orchestrating her rise to power via fusing her past self with alternate versions of herself before she can move on to doing what she wants. She call in to talk about whatever show or book she's reviewing at the moment, or to talk about game design.
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Hey question does charcoal turn into anything when you get it Ludicrously hot Besides fire? I mean like I know you can make diamonds out of it, but it's just heat and not pressure,but we are talking a ludicrous and unnatural amount of heat right now.
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>>51732248
>Okay, the demons I can see. So I probably shouldn't even think about moving those in. The tree though... fuck. I mean it's a fucking tree. Yeah it's a kickass tree, but it's a tree. ...damn it. Going to need to figure something out.
I may be overestimating their level of Intelligence here, they may very well be more Lassie level Intelligent and safe.
But, aren't Mature Jurai Trees space ships? Like easy to move out if it becomes to smart?
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>>51732248
Jurai trees beyond the 3rd(?) generation are not sapient, if that helps?
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>>51732237

Actually, Golden Frieza is never stated to have God ki.

And we know he has normal ki because non-Gods like Gohan and Krillin can still sense his energy.

Meaning Frieza was capable of stomping two Saiyans who had God ki with just his normal ki.

If Frieza trained as much as Goku does and acquired God ki, he'd be literally unstoppable.
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>>51732270
Hey, a question about the Heaven's Lost Property jump that I've been meaning to ask, but keep forgetting to ask.

If you're a Synapse Resident and you don't take the Avatar perk, can you still use non fiat-backed Avatars to interact with Earth?
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>>51732275
>your episodic memory is one of the smallest and least-supported portions of your brain
So according to you your unique selfhood is instead all the support structure meant to maintain your body and not any aspect of you as a person?
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>>51732295
Charcoal doesn't become fire. It ignites. This is basic chemistry.
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>>51732248
I'm not sure if the jumpmaker follows this thread at all, but somebody else that goes on both sites could probably relay the question for you.
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Hey, how many jumps have the means to create black holes?
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>>51732314
Yes.
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>>51732198
My Jump Coordinator is an absolute dick.
But he has his limits.
I mean, honestly, I can't even understand what pleasure he gets from forcing me along this path at this point. He doesn't even seem to enjoy it.
He's not the only one.
I know he watches. He loves jabbing at me for my mistakes.
I'm slowly gathering the answers.
And it feels like he's just counting down the years until he can send me to another hell-hole for ten years.
I don't think he's actually immortal at all. Just powerful.
I guess I'm thankful he hasn't ripped out the real dangerous stuff. There are worse places he could send me.
I can't help but think there's something wrong with him.
And worse Drawbacks he could be forcing me to endue.
In any case, I'm going to need a lot more power. I just have to gather it carefully.
Still, I managed to rescue a ton of Dolls from Nechronica and they seem happy now that they're given a chance for a semi-normal childhood.
He can't know what I'm really planning.
And now I have an expansive hot springs for them all to stay in, so they don't always have to get involved with Jumper Shenanigans.
I think he might suspect something though.
So he can't be all bad.
Something horrible is coming. I can feel it.
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>>51732198
Justice's benefactor is basically his best friend at this point. Mischievous, and likes throwing Justice into unexpected situations, but generally takes a "You wanted to be a better person? Here, have a situation where you need to prove your resolve" attitude.

Tiger's Benefactor is 100% in this for their own amusement. Which is why they do things like letting Amaterasu make perk choices, and even on a couple of jumps just picking everything them-self rather than giving Tiger a chance.
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>>51732331
Any with an origin where yo mama is still alive.
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Now that it is Valentine's day I want to ask if there a perk that lets you pair up people?

and in an unrelated note my jumper fucked up big time and now there is an evil princess Elodie jumping around universes, any settings that she would like to visit?
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>>51732301
Nope. They can power/operate spaceships, and Jurai builds clarketech spaceship hulls for their Trees for that very reason, but on their own they can't move about (well... maybe they could pull something bullshit via Lighthawk manifestation, but having a ship makes it sooo much easier).

Um, memory's failing me here, but I think there's also something about Jurai Trees risking eventually turning dormant/sessile if they get removed from their ship and planted on a planet's soil?
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>>51732331
Magicka has one that doesn't actually require any perks to get it, although earning it involves fighting a Great Old One.
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>>51732336
Thanks.
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>>51732350
>evil princess Elodie jumping around universes, any settings that she would like to visit?
All the Magical Girl jumps.
ALL OF THEM
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>>51732302
It really doesn't considering I wanted the first gen one in there.

>>51732301
>>51732352
No no, you're right. http://tenchi.wikia.com/wiki/Royal_Tree

Though weirdly there's an example of a 1st gen tree that was planted and completely unable to take ship form ever again, but because Washu's gems were placed on it, it didn't lose its power. Zero word on whether it retained its intellect though, so I have no idea if planting it and using S2 cores to keep supplying superdimensional energy will let it slide under the radar.

>>51732329
Eh. Not really comfy with trying to draw attention like that.
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>>51732350
Gravity Falls, MATCH MADE! is one of the best ones I've ever found. It allows you to customize the bond AND know what the social ramifications of that match will be before you kick it off.
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>>51727903
Those are both 200's.
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>>51732331
Blame (the jump with the Structure)
Star Trek (red matter)
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>>51732295
It becomes carbon dioxide, to be precise.

>>51732409
pic unrelated?
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>>51728240
Is there a method of spreading flames to other jumps? They would make a good hand out superpower.
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>>51732452
>pic unrelated?
I hope so. The horror grows the more you notice.
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>>51722954
Pretending to be people's spirit animal, sending them on quests, giving them weird abilities and watching what happens.

That sort of thing.
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>>51732198
Mine is actually pretty awesome compared to some peoples on here. She shows up at the bar one night near the end of my jump, usually the last night or close to it and orders a drink. She then has a little chat with me about how things were or just smalltalk and then hands me a menu of my next jump. I finish my build and off she goes, she never leaves a tip, or pays. I have been told this may mean my benefactor is european, but I am unsure.
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>>51732452
... Yes. Yes that's /way/ the wrong picture for my statement. This one is the one I meant to post.
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>>51732331
Well pokemon psy will get you on the level of a gardevoir and they can make black holes so...
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>>51732198
The only name he... she... IT goes by is 'The Cat.'

It's always a sparkling white, takes the form any number of felines - it's been a white tiger, a white Persian, and even a Khajiit. The voice is always the same, whether they're speaking to me directly or via telepathy - Alan Rickman. Yes, even if the cat or other felinid form is human, it's with Alan Rickman's voice.

I don't know what The Cat wants. It seems to change from day to day. I know it's gathered other Jumpers from the worlds I've been - Gul'dan. Eggman. Jack Sparrow. Char Aznable. Countless others.

I know that it despises The Outsider, for what reason i don't know. Even after The Outsider helped reunite me with the other 'spectators' and my companions in the Endless Frontier, after whatever interference occurred that had me plummeting through the skies sixty-six million years before humanity's birth on a Hollow-infested planet.

The Cat has a greater game plan in mind.

That is the only thing I know for real.
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>>51732498
>Pretending to be people's spirit animal, sending them on quests, giving them weird abilities and watching what happens.
Do you make them wear stupid getups to access the powers you gave them?
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>>51732452
Well damn, that's a lot of Gas in my inner world ,I better find a way to clean that up.... but I guess that's what I get For Letting Tina Break out the wand of universal fire again
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>>51732275
Another anon here. While I agree that memory is not the be-all central core of who we are, it is still part of our concept of self from certain points of view, it's still vitally important to building the personality we end up with in the first place, and whether or not it's the least supported biologically it still separates us from... well, trees, ants and goldfish.

Also, frankly, any Creator that half-asses things by building an entire universe complete with afterlife and spiritual realm but doesn't bother to include a mechanism to carry over my memories has some 'splaining to do. That's fucked up.
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>>51732552
>>51732452

Redwall build related.

http://pastebin.com/8eMcLjHL
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>>51732202
You taken a huge dump while very dehydrated?

It's like that.
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>>51729171
150 Tales of Demons and Gods
Glory City
Age 16
Demon spiritualist
Soul Realm Cultivation, Blind Spot -100, Daoyin Massage Technique -100, Aspect of Law(Time)-300, Souls Grace, Demon Soul Merge -100, Fine Control -200, Cultivation Master -300, 7 Souls -300,
Companion Import(Kissiae[Alchemist, Soul Realm Cultivation, Alchemist Memory, Alchemical Genius -300], Emma[Alchemist, Soul Realm Cultivation, Alchemist Memory, Garden of Heavenly Roots -300], Ruari[Drop in, Soul Realm Cultivation, Recognition of Patterns, Deciphering languages -100, Primary Incriptionist -200], Uzumaki Yanako[Drop in, Recognition of Patterns, Spiritual Dao Calligrapher -300], Judy[Alchemist, Soul Realm Cultivation, Alchemist Memory, Spiritual Origin Fruit Tree -150, Demon Beast Spirit(Black Scaled Earth Dragon)-150], Bay[Alchemist, Soul Realm Cultivation, Alchemist Memory, Nightmare Demon Pot -150, Box of Blood Gems -150], MMBrown[Alchemist, Soul Realm Cultivation, Alchemist Memory, Set of inscription tools -50, Alchemy Furnace -50, Alchemical Garden -200], MMRed[Alchemist, Soul Realm Cultivation, Alchemist Memory, 100 bundles of purple smoke herb -50, Box of Blank Spiritual Stones -50, Fountain of law -200], MMGreen[Alchemist, Soul Realm Cultivation, Alchemist Memory, Alchemists Eye -100, Stairway to heaven -200], MMBlue[Alchemist, Soul Realm Cultivation, Alchemist Memory, Alchemists Eye -100, Deity Puddle -200])-600,
Spiritual Constellation user +600, Teachers Pest +200, Nie Li, Nie Li, Nie Li! +200,
I spend most of my time here working to learn and teach all that I can working with my companions. I also do a lot of work with the stairway and a lot of soaking in the fountain. Before we leave, we transplant a fully mature deity root into a lake on the flying island. Sure they don't like it, but they won't really get the chance to object. We'll also collect plenty of demon beasts, but it isn't really a priority. Mostly avoiding people is our job. Outside of my bar that is.
Continue
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>>51732202
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>>51732202
It's overclocking your body basically,and that's very painful
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>>51731938
So, the end of the Drop In description says we might learn how to transform into a demon with time - is that just up to our fanwanking?
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>>51732628
1 Tropico
2 SimAnt
3 The Room
4 Sekirei
5 Viking Saga
6 Generic Creepy Pasta
7 Sunrider
8 Generic Video Game Developer
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Rolled 1 (1d8)

>>51732706
forgot to roll
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>>51732706
>>51732711
Tropico, need a new 1
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>>51732202
It's like a kiai, where you yell in order to charge your attacks with emotion, which is a psychological effect allowing you to strike harder. Except it's powering up and it takes longer, hence the short yell becomes a prolonged scream.

If you don't want to scream you don't have to, but you'll probably spend just as long charging up.
Which might look more or less strange, if you're just standing there silently while energy grows around you.
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>>51732729
Magicka.
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>>51732679
Basically, yeah. Demon forms are unlocked whenever someone has an experience that really affects them and causes them to change as a person, or something like that. Gale unlocked his when he experienced anger for the first time, enraged that they had to kill Lupa (a man he had come to respect) like an animal because of the Atma Virus, and because Lupa refused to devour others. Sera unlocked hers after Argilla brought her back from the brink of despair, giving her new hope. So basically, you'll unlock your demon form after having a similar experience. Atma Soldiers and Demon Warriors were at ground zero like Serph, Argilla, and Heat were, so they just got a new form right away.
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>>51732731
been there
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>>51732763
Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt?
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>>51732763
infinicon
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Epicureanon here?
Kubo question. The CCC boosted with On the Golden Wings of Herons, are the "two creations of Particular Quality" like that boat made of leaves still limited to Origami Paper Size? One of the pictures had Kubo flying giant origami wings...
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>>51732769
been there
>>51732772
queued
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Where can I go to pick up some seriously badass sword skills? Like, the kind where I can beat master swordsmen, even though I only have one arm.
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Are there any cooler hydras than a dragons dogma hydra? Cause this thing is awesome and I need to work out a template for my infernal shintai.
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>>51732799
Just buy a gun.
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>>51732789
Um, never mind, I was looking at the wrong section of the notes.
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>>51732802
are you sure that's not just Four snakes? because it looks like Four snakes. Some snakes grouped together like that when they're banging so why are you showing us Snake orgies?
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>>51732799
Overlord's Level 100, making a sword/martial arts based Stand in Jojo, Mushoku Tensei warrior and swordsman perk lines, softcap from Elona lets you get anywhere eventually, the Math power from Worm synergies nicely with hand to hand combat
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>>51732814
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>>51732799
Exalted Mortal Hero Gauntlet
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>>51732829
. . . god dammit bancho Nappa
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>>51732799
city of heroes, Melee combat package + skill plus from eclipse phase,Iron Heart style from forgotten realms, what>>51732841 Samurai from disgaea
>>51732850
hey, knowing how snakes bang is legit zoology, it makes me smart, not perverted.
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>>51732538
Nah that'd make it all feel too much like a game.

Which of course it is but that's not something I want them knowing.
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>>51732829
It is a very awesome and well proportioned hydra with no tiny neck tiny head bigass body problem like you see in most hydras.
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>>51732799
DMC/Samurai Deeper Kyo/Fate
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>>51732850
Hey, apparently you're the one sharing pics of snake orgys from your perverted porn folder.
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>>51732919
Not the one who posted it, just commenting on Bancho's perversion/stupidity.
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>>51732886
Why would they think it's a game? Just say you made enchanted them / made them with technology, and dress like a Pimp with no fashion sense. They will know the powers come from the items, and just assume you built them with your horrible aesthetics because you don't know any better.
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>>51732802
Not a hydra per se, but close enough.
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>>51732970
Thats kinda what Im going for in size. Also we need a kamigawa jump eventually.
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>>51732799
To give you a few that are probably going to be overlooked, Percy Jackson if you take the right divine parent and take the perk that gives you super human level skills.
I think History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi is probably pretty good because I think you no longer have a limit you can just get better over time.
Considering some of the flat out silly feats they have One Piece is probably a good place to learn swordsmanship too. Normal humans can cut mountains in half there.
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>>51732735
>>51732679
I'd like to correct myself here. The scene with Lupa was how he awakened his emotions and became more then an A.I., he possessed the demonic form before hand. Calming the transformed Gale is out first introduction to Sera's power.
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>>51732982
You can become The coolest looking hi Greg, you can imagine in sword Art online and terrain of magical excellence. but it will only be massive in sword Art online.
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In the Gods are Bastards are the 100 CP items free or discounted?
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>>51732843
>>51732814
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>>51732198
I enjoy my Benefactress. She's pretty cool, looks somewhat like pic related, albeit sometimes older and with perhaps even different hairstyles throughout her appearances.
Throughout the chain her purpose for putting me on the journey has always been ambiguous, never giving me a real answer other then "well why not?" and telling me its for entertainment or something.
One thing I've added is that she at least a view times per jump appears as a presence no one can see but me, and offers a bit of commentary. Sometimes I even feel like she's truly rooting for me to succeed.
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>>51733155
>that random flip
Ugggghhhh...
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>>51733155
That's what shotguns are for.
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>>51731441
>Jumpmaker have gotten bad about including that stuff
>>51733099
>In the Gods are Bastards are the 100 CP items free or discounted?
Anon Heart forgot the boilerplate, it seems.
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Think back to you when you were on the first jump of your chain. What would you tell your first jump self? What advice would you give?
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>>51733155
Get a gun that shoots swords.
Or a gun that shoots waifu's holding swords.
Fire it at the baby dimension.
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>>51732198
My benefactor is a a friend, someone who spends a lot of time hanging out with me in the warehouse and occasionally joining me as a mostly passive traveling companion for some adventures.

Much time has been wasted playing board games and vidya in the warehouse together.


>>51733242
Go to jumps X, Y, and Z now and take these perks (list here); it will save you so much trouble later on.
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>>51733252
>Get a gun that shoots swords.

you mean like this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzR17VJreKo
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>>51733242
"Take some companions you lazy ass loner."
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>>51733155
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>>51732198
I had a long ass rant here but i think this video will suffice to give an example on how she acts. She's Ryoji.

https://youtu.be/0WPEiOhlftA
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>>51733291
And we thought bullets can't be wuxia.
Also sauce?
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>>51733302
No clue, I typed in "cut bullet, get shot twice" in google one day and just found it.
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>>51733328
Now I'm curious why you even searched for that in the first place.
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>>51732802
Is there any cooler dragon than Grigori?
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>>51733242
You don't need those physical boosts from bodymod.
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>>51733351
Mostly to see if I could find a picture to post in to response to sword bullet cutting scenes.
I'm just generally annoyed by the scenes where people think bullets when cut will suddenly fly apart violently like they were both magnets of the same charge.
Also fun fact, the standard bullet is so soft that a butter knife can split one in half.
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>>51733242
It gets easier. Also don't take no for an answer fight for satsuki fool
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I want to be a girl Namekian. How do?
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>>51733454
There are no natural girl Namekians, they're all masculine, biologically asexual beings.

Generic engineering or shapeshifting is required. Hell, DB has Shapeshifting as a drop-in perk if you just want to try that.
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>>51733454
Two words. "Water Sacks".
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>>51733454

Genetic engineering.

Because otherwise Namekians only have one gender (male) and reproduce asexually.
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>>51733454
Take a fan fic drawback into DBz and say that your fan fic's Nameks are feminine.
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>>51725699
Presumably so yes.

>>51726061
All the drawbacks that are dependent on the 4th grail war apply to all of them with the Long War.

No, as you're not the actual container of those souls, you just receive the downsides, so where the souls actually go is irrelevant.

>>51729072
Please read the supplement, the first sections detail exactly how this works.
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>>51733497

Does DBZ even have a fanfic drawback?
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>>51733511
Literally cannot into.
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>>51733511
No but some people carry them in from other settings.
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>>51733454
Well there are things that can specifically change your gender like the girl gun from kids next door... thing is I have no idea how that would affect a race like Namekians.
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>>51733478
>>51733490
I'm shocked. People usually have combos for everything.

>>51733490
Fakers.
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>>51733505
By just how much does the Demi-Servant boosted version of Magus Killer weaken enemy magic?
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>>51733454
Namekians dont have gender. They reproduce by spitting up eggs which hatch into a baby Namekian. I suppose you could just put on fake boobs and makeup.
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>>51733528
There's no combo to be had. Namekians are asexual. You're basically asking "how do I make a robot into a girl?", and the answer we're giving you is "either take a perk that lets you shapeshift or hammer on some boobs yourself".
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>>51733528

Well there's that Unholy Heights perk that retroactively changes someone's gender.

But I have no idea how that would affect Namekians.
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How do I obtain Divine Rank 0 and otherwise progress as a god in a D&D Jump?
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>>51733540
By the same amount as the unboosted version, it just doesn't require you to be using purely mundane methods.
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>>51733573
Actually this reminded me... The perfect answer is a curse. You can curse yourself or just use something like wish. I was going to suggest some of the girl water from Ranma with the thing that made it permanent but that's a lot more complicate than just using a curse or wish or something like that.
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>>51733505
>Presumably so yes.
She never flashes back to or mention participating even though she would remember them though. Arturia wasn't summoned randomly, the Einzberns had to dig up a catalyst. Just like how Archer also needed a catalyst to show up.
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>>51733617
>Just use the fucking Dragon Balls
I'm surprised we didn't think of this sooner.
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>>51733527
>thing is I have no idea how that would affect a race like Namekians
stuff that switches your gender does nothing, because they have no opposite gender. So no gender reversing stuff works by default.
Stuff that dictates what their gender is, like the "You are now a girl" gun would work fine.
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>>51733633
She barely flashes back to the 4th war too, and gets a few things wrong compared to what we see in Zero. I don't think her not having flashbacks to wars in which she just fought and died without achieving anything can be proof she wasn't in them, especially when common sense says that the deal she made would summon her in them too. The 4th war had direct importance to many characters in the 5th but everything before that is either much more distantly connected or just too far back in the past, so I feel it makes sense they didn't bother showing any memories of them.

The Einzberns digging up a catalyst isn't proof that she wouldn't have been summoned in the 4th war without it either. How would they know about some deal Arturia made with Alaya?
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>>51733505
Used goods won't kill me, right? In theory, I can just spend a week or two in a coma while my companions deal with the war, and I'll get better afterwards?
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>>51733681
>especially when common sense says that the deal she made would summon her in them too
By that logic she woudl be summoned to every one of the like seven hundred things called a Holy Grail war that could grant a wish. It's not like the Fuyuki Grail was that special outside of being able to punch open a hole to Akasha.

It breaks down in a puff of logic that she gets summoned to every holy grail war because that's a ridiculously broad set of events. I'd think she'd say "And oh yeah I've been on this rodeo at every other fight over something called the Holy Grail that grants wishes."
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>>51733716
The weakening thing won't ever kill you no, but you might die if you allow yourself to be possessed by AM.

>>51733726
Since when has there been more then the Fuyuki Grail War except in the Apocrphya/Strange Fake AU line?
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>>51733744
Cool.

Note to self. Don't let them summon Avenger. Or just keep him around.
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>>51733579
There are no hard and fast rules for it, though I believe there is a prestige class (Dragon Ascendent, or something like that) that grants it. But aside from that exception, it's all GM fiat. If you've done something that would lead to you being a demigod (getting a kingdom to worship you, accomplishing some legendary heroic act, some sort of ascension ritual), then you get DR 0 and can progress from there. So this could be tricky to make work.
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>>51733744
I misread a quote. There are other competitions for wish granting things called Holy Grails but only Fuyuki uses servants.
Still it makes no sense. Saber explains her history with the Grail Wars to Shirou and "I was also in three other ones. Is a pretty big detail to leave out."
Also Zouken never mentions her being constantly summoned and that's a thing he would really fucking care about.
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>>51733771
Having found and started reading the relevant source book it seems to be telling me to wank whatever seems reasonable and appropriate.
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What's up with the ban on Ultimate Dying Will Mode in the KHR jump?

I mean, it just looks like generic shonen power up #37. Is there something the wiki isn't telling me, like 'people who use this always win' or something?
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>>51733579
>How do I obtain Divine Rank 0
Gods with Divine Rank 1+ can grant Divine Rank 0, so that can be gained by Social-fu / making a deal.
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>>51733966
Remember that this jump was made way back in the beginning, when the biggest issues you could run into were Jedi and Conduits from Infamous. The power creep's gotten significantly higher since then, so the jump is woefully outdated.

Red said she was going to pass the jump back to mib/Reborn to update after he finished reworking Bleach, but we don't know anything else other than that.
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>>51733579
via shenanigans.
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>>51733966
Last I asked, it requires that you have died (or technically died) to unlock, and the jump was made so far back that there were no concessions for stuff like undeath, or stuff that happened in your background before the jump even started, when it came to the death rules.
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>>51733770
I don't have a picture for an interdimensional road trip.
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>>51733744
Kotomine
>"But still, it should only be a matter of time before she obtains the Holy Grail. This is not the only opportunity for her. Trials to obtain the Holy Grail exist in all ages. If she continues to challenge each one, she will obtain the Holy Grail."
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>>51733990
I don't have high hopes for that update. He said he was mostly done a month ago or more, and he's vanished again.

>>51733996
...So, one up?
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>>51733966
>KHR jump
I have no idea what that is. deacronymize that thing.
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>>51733579
Be a Paladin or Cleric and impress your chosen god so much they reward you with quasi-godhood.
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>>51734053
Kateyo HItman Reborn.
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>>51734034
Well Red kept getting shat on for it until she passed it back to him, so I don't suspect she'll be eager to do the update herself.
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>>51733770
Me in Fire Emblem Jumps

Although no one dies because I have my weapons just knock people out and we march on. Gotta keep that pacifist cred somehow.
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>>51734082
hey, it's how I order my retainers!
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Tsukihime occurs before fate/zero, right?
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>>51733866
Not really a big detail. What does it matter to Shirou? Or to her? This is just another tournament she's gotta win and it's not like someone super important to Shirou competed in any other war but the 4th. It's not really more then trivia since it has no real combat relevance.

Why would Zouken? He doesn't mean to participate in this war at all originally, he was going to wait until Sakura matured, so whether Saber is in it again or not is irrelevant to him. By the time he enters, Black Sakura is well on her way to awakening and eats up Saber, removing her as a factor (In his mind at least).

>>51734014
I'm not seeing how that confirms that other Holy Grail Wars exist at the same time as the Fuyuki ones. Just that people have gone through trials to obtain the Holy Grail throughout history. In her time, she and her knights quested for the Grail too (Though unlikely to be the same one) and the rest of the statement just means she can keep challenging it as it goes on.

>>51734123
Occurs almost ten years after. It starts a month or so before Fate Stay Night starts.
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>>51733099
Hellfire on a- Yes. 100s are free. I don't think I've gotten through a /single/ jump without forgetting something along these lines.
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>>51733770
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>>51734138
Whoops.

...How the heck would a continuity drawback work in that case?
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>>51734138
Oh well.
It all falls down to fanwank anyway I guess.
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>>51734167
I've got no clue.
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>>51733770
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>>51734138
...Can i just say the jump got cut short or something? That's a heck of a lot easier than there being two of me.
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>>51733770
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Has the maker of Superman:TAS shown up since he dropped the latest update?
I would like him to consider changing the Pricing on The Jumpers companion option.
Instead of costing 500 CP initially and they have 800 CP, make it free, but they only get a Background and 0 CP. Then each 50 CP the Jumper spends gives them 100 CP each.

Also some of the other companions should get backgrounds, like the Partner getting Cop Background, and Intern getting Journalist background. (Companions would not get companions)
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>>51734210
Whoops. Meant to link this. >>51734201
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>>51734153
Needs to be that SAO Abridged scene.
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>>51734210
You can always just not make the Tsukihime jump be continuous from Zero or to Stay Night you know. But what you fanwank is up to you.
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>>51733770
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>>51734240
Seems like a cheap way of giving them 1000cp each for the same price as before.
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>>51733770
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>>51734275
Sorry, I've got kinda a thing for continuity drawbacks. Not doing so hadn't actually occured to me.
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>>51733770
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>>51733770
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>>51733770
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>>51734286
>Seems like a cheap way of giving them 1000cp each for the same price as before.
Dude, 500 CP is way overpriced nowadays for a group impost option. They end up having more CP than you do. It is to let you bring them all in affordably in exchange for them having less CP. Also
>500 CP
>cheap
whatever you say, nerfwhore.
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>>51734144
Coming Soon!
The Gods are Bastards v0.5!
Get any other feedback in while the Iron is hot!
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>>51734240
Personally, I'm slightly miffed that he imposed the worst possible type of drawback limit willy-nilly.
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>>51734344
Hey Heart, been meaning to ask something.

Does Recruitment in A Practical Guider to Evil let you companion canon characters?

If so, could I companion, say, the Dead King or the Tyrant of Helike?
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Renegade Jump # 53 Cave Story
Starting Location: Starting Point
Background: Armed Scout Robot (300)
Age: Robot
Gender: Female

Perks:
*Moonsong (0)
*Moonjump (0)
*Built to last (0)
*Run and Gun (100, Discount)
*Soldier from the surface (200, Discount)
*From Somewhere a Signal (200, Discount)
*Back-To-Back (0)

Equipment:
*Map System (100)
*Polar Star (100)

Companion
Quote
Perks:
*Built to last
*Run and Gun
*Soldier from the surface
*Moon Jump
Equipment:
Polar Star

Journal Entry # 752221

I… don’t know what is going on here. Things are trying to kill me I am helping a race of creatures called Mimiga; some of them have been driven berserk and I have had to fight them. It reminds me a bit too much of my time in the underworld. Also I am a robot.

Journal Entry # 752223

So apparently there is some Doctor who is oppressing the Mimiga’s and driving some crazy with these red flowers. Also I beat up a bag. It was a robot but it looked like a bag. You know this place was making sense but the bagbot is still strange. Then again I would take a million bagbots over some of the stupid places I have been.

Journal Entry # 752227

I found another robot, he can’t remember anything either. Together we are trying to bring down the doctor. Also we found a girl Mimiga who used to be human. We saved her brother and now she wants to leave the island and has offered us a chance to go with her. Sadly I can’t do that. We are going to finish things here and stop the doctor.
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>>51734144
>>51734412
I would like to say Headhunter is not a good perk. It's advantage (being able to beat anyone in elemental rock paper scissors) applies to anyone who has all 4 magics. Which are a prerequisite to buying it.
Instead it gives you this
>The Orcs of Athan’Khar hate humanity with a passion, a quite reasonable result of the Tiraan Empire hitting the Orcish homeland with so many magical weapons that even time has broken in the area, and even the local god was slain. These furious spirits constantly drive their host to kill, often driving them insane with their demands. While you do not suffer these consequences, good luck convincing others. You must take the Dark Secret drawback. It does not count against the Drawback cap.
Basically you are charging CP for a drawback, when you would be better off just buying all 4 magics and stopping there, and not being beholden to you undead sources of power, or on the empires kill list for being a head hunter.
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>>51734144
>>51734412
Also, you might want to update how Dark Secret and Gygax 20 interact, because having that perk with Dark Secret (Faked being a 20) seems perfectly valid, where if they find out you are not (attacked by someone who did not know you were a 20 and loosing, or getting beaten in a monster attack/act of nature), not only do you loose the perks benefits for the rest of the jump, they come after you for fooling them.
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I don't like how there's so many DB canons now. Ignoring one off movies and filler arcs that just kinda awkwardly into the main plot, you now have:

GT (De-canonized with Online)
Online (De-canonized with Super)
Heroes (Steals and reinterprets canon from all other sources)
Super (Current main canon)
Xenoverse (which contradicts Super now because of Future Trunks)
Fusions (which is just its own weird timeline)

It's all over the place.
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>>51734673
This is just how successful franchises evolve.
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>>51734673
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>>51734673
Spin offs are spin offs. You might as well stick the Yamcha reincarnation spin off on there too since it's "canon"
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Thinking of being a Drow in Neverwinter Nights, are there any good in setting ways of mitigating the weakness to bright light?
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>>51734714
Two-three of them are spinoffs, but GT was the original official sequel, then Online came out and Toriyama and co talked it up as the new sequel until the company managing it mismanaged it to death (no english or spanish release, with as popular as the series is in both language spheres?), and now the favored sequel is Super.

Heroes and Fusions just weird me out in how they're intentionally contradicting the plots of everything they steal from, even Xenoverse, and just mash it into their own version of future events.

Poor Xenoverse though didn't intend to contradict Super, they just couldn't predict the Zamasu arc.
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>>51734730
Stop being the elf equivalent of a NEET. Get some sunlight, anon. Alternatively, there are several sources of Light Immunity. I reckon you could either find an enchanted ring or make one.
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>>51734673
>Xenoverse Trunks
It contradicts more then that. Originally, Trunk's time travel being a sin was actually a bold faced lie made by the Supreme Kai of Time because she was lonely. Super on the other hand makes it a legitimate sin, enough to make Beerus consider destroying Earth for real as well as trigger Zamasu's "FUCKING NINGENS!" thing. The Time Breakers would have been stomped into the ground by Beerus and Whis.
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