/HHG/ The Horus Heresy General

iron hands da best
emperors children and word bearers are fucking shit

>>51719313

No! This can't be happening! I'm in charge here!

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>>51719327
Why do I even like this setting? Everything in it makes me either fucking sad, fucking angry or both :/

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>>51719298
>Rolled 2 (1d20)

The XIX will take this bread from [REDACTED]!!

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>>51719343
Not unless someone elects you, terran boi

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>>51719327
I like Word Bearers. They a cool dudes who don't afraid of anything and turn the gellar fields off

But iron hand are cool too

I'm losing sleep over my loadout over my Sekhmet squad termies. Should I have at least one maul for concussive vs characters? Should I have a power sword or a power axe on my sergeant?

>>51719395
pick something you're going to send them after

kit them to do that job

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>>51719368
Disregarding the memery that is ever present in this general, how do you like your Word Bearers?
Crusaders of the Truth, or Unhinged fanatics?
Agents of the Anihilator, or Aspirants of Aetheric Assimilation?

>>51719407

How about everything? Astartes? Artillery? Other termies? Characters? Spartans?

>>51719395
I think you want at least one chainfist in case a dreadnought happens. And keep as many force weapons as possible, because they're force weapons.

Not sure if the Force Stave (there is no such thing as a Force Maul FW) is a good option. Whilst it does have concussive, it basically always allows armoursaves for the targets that matter ... and relying on them to fail that 2+ for the concussive seems not that great.

Take axes if you don't want to get stuck against other terminators and have a competent local meta where they always make sure you gotta charge through terrain with terminators.

>>51719422
Pick one thing or they're gonna end up schizophrenic and retarded and not able to actually kill even ONE thing.

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Progress on my legion diorama.
1/2

>>51719412
Angry. Angry about Ultrmarines. To the point where they became Khornate in the 41st millenium after having enough sense to get off of Calth. Lots of Melta and Flamers, for sure.

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>>51719461
2/2

>>51719436

Hrmmm. 4 force axes out of 5 sounds good then. Thanks anon, I'll just keep accruing bits for now.

>>51719473
I really like the helmet on the Night Lord, how do you do it?

>>51719412

Guardians of the Covenant, the Illuminators, the Last Bastion.

>>51719463

>To the point where they became Khornate in the 41st millenium after having enough sense to get off of Calth

They didn't leave willingly. Their damned souls were blasted into the warp of the Ruinstorm. Video game about the Underground War where its basically Space Marine meets Dead Space meets Red Faction: Resurrection fighting hordes of twisted chaos zombies and daemons when?

>>51719520
The blue is stegadon scale green, then temple guard blue highlights. Then 50/50 blue and black wash.

The White was just two thinned down coats of ulthuan grey. I found its easier to black line the mouth grills with a pen after, than to paint around them with white.

>>51719609
Thanks, punisher marines will become a thing.

2500/2500

>I Legion, Ironwing RoW

>HQ

Delegatus w/ MC-TGS, AA, RF (100)
3-man LCS (105) 3x Axe
Rhino w/ Pintle HB w/ Acid (50)

>Troops

10-man Tac Squad (215) Extra CCW, Sarge w/ CWB+AA
Rhino w/ Pintle HB w/ Acid

10-man Tac Squad (215) Extra CCW, Sarge w/ CWB+AA
Rhino w/ Pintle HB w/ Acid

10-man Tac Squad (215) Extra CCW, Sarge w/ CWB+AA
Rhino w/ Pintle HB w/ Acid

>Elites

10-man VTS (290) 5x PS, Sarge w/ CWB+AA
Rhino w/ Pintle HB w/ Acid

Contemptor-Cortus Talon (290) 2x C-C w/ DCCW, Chainfist

>Fast Attack

Javelin Squadron (210) 3x Javelin w/ Acid, 6x HKM

>Heavy Support

Artillery Squad (225) 3x WW
Sicarian (200) Sponson HB, Pintle HB, Acid
Spartan (385) FS, AC, HB, Acid

Babbys first list, plenty of time to work kinks out since I'm saving up until early summer to buy dingles en masse.
Tacs sit on objs, extra CCWs to make them a bit more prickly. Javelins and Cortus hunt tanks. Sicarian picks off light vehicles and infantry. Vets can either dick on important objs or be infantry killers as needed. Delegatus and bros most likely do very little except not die and maybe try and contest objs. Whirlwinds either are AA, or cheap arty/tank tax if there is no air. Spartan is... Spartan.

Thoughts?

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>>51719600
>Space Marine meets Dead Space
Anon, we already have that one.
It's graviton weapons and the Halo Stars.

>>51719689
your tanks cant take acid rounds, and your list has no teeth, and nothing useful to put in your spartan

>>51719689
Ok one of the few lists I'd suggest a Deredeo over the whirlwinds for AA. Take the las cannons, maybe ML if you want. All dreads get Tank hunter so that makes those shots really scary, and it can shoot things other than planes, which unless your meta is riddled with them, aren't much of a worry.

>>51719723
ah fack, I fucking forgot it was LA or noughts only
I should probably drop the Spartan unless I can find something to stuff inside it, that and dropping the Acid on the tanks will free up ~400 points.
I think I have a good core, I'm just... unsure how to use my (shitty excuse for) LA rules while also making a nice killy unit or two

>>51719785
That would also mean throwing in another tank of some kind or dropping either the cortus talon or the javelins, which was the sole reason I avoided putting in a dorito

>>51719412
Crusaders who do what they do so that humanity can survive. It is a noble work, to ensure humanities survival.

>>51719830

I'm sorry to inform you that they're all dead.

>>51719852
We've embraced the truth. Only united can the neverborn and humanity claim the galaxy as our birthright. Only together shall we purge the xenos from our realm.

>>51719461
That World Eater's left arm/hand is all kinds of fucked up.

>>51719872
>Wants to purge xenos from this galaxy
>So imports xenos from another dimension and gives them free housing within his body
Gee.

>>51719812
>>51719786
I dropped the acid, pintle HBs except on the Sicarian, and the Spartan, putting me at 2020pts

wat do
remember, I need a tank for every non-tank unit, so it either needs to take a DT or I would need to add another tank somewhere

>>51719898
>Implying the daemons of the Primordial Truth share anything in common with those lesser creatures.

>>51719812

I'm no expert, but your list seems to be full of holes. Outflank or deep strike would wreck havoc in your backlines and only your Sicaran would be able to stop it (which means it would likely be the first target). Your frontline seems to be full of vulnerabilities and is dependent on the enemy walking into your killbox, where the tacticals would hang back and pepper whatever is approaching. But it'll crumble to an actual specialized gunline with long range weaponry.

Weak to a strong gunline, weak to deep strike, weak to general randomness, no real backbone in the army besides the Spartan. For 2500 points, I'd expect more redundancies than tac spam and a Sicaran hanging in the back.

>>51719908

You will have to add a tank somewhere.

>>51719898
Hey, man, even the KKK was willing to import Jews to fight the twin scourges of Catholicism and Blacks.

Source: My family had some encounters with the klan back in WWII.

>>51719908
Drop a tac squad, run more squadrons of tanks, as that's the point of Ironwing. You're not really getting any BS5 boosts at all. Also cortus seem ok, but will die pretty fast, usually do in any game I've played with them

>>51719956
thats because they were controlled opposition at that point

>>51719956
>Catholicism
>a scourge
Both praise God and use Bible, mr /pol/. Maybe you should focus first on those who don't.

>>51720029
>worshiping moloch
i see you are cuckpilled, impressive.

>>51720029
>>51720046

Can you please take this to /pol/ where it belongs?

For some reason, I'm flirting with the idea of fielding Mortis Boxnoughts with autocannons or lascannons instead of a heavy support squad. Decent idea? Terrible idea?

>>51720064
oh no, people are talking in the dead 30k thread, better cry like a bitch again.

you are the reason these thread are dead btw

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>>51720046
>i see you are cuckpilled, impressive.
He said in the chorus of his twin voices, while his body was host to a daemon.
He was one of the "lucky" ones. Those who would come after him would recieve daemons of ever lesser quality to be pupeteered by

>>51720112
ever wonder why the WB are based on the (((church)))?

>>51720120
>The WB linger on compliant worlds too much because priestly Kor Phareon spends time teaching the acolytes the Imperial """faith"""
Not really, no.

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>>51720029
I'm actually Catholic, my great-uncle was lynched for trying to woo a southern lass.

My grandfather on the other side was very obviously Jewish and the Klan kept trying to recruit him during the war. I'm talking a generation removed from pic related Jewish.

>>51720120
>WBs based on the Church
>Not Lutheranism
The only thing they're missing is Lorgar nailing his 95 theses, bound in human flesh, to the door of the Imperial Palace during the Siege of Terra.

>>51720259
What's the Word Bearer equivalent of that time Martin Luther wrote a scathing essay about how horrible peasants were because they robbed him?

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fucking protestants

>>51720273
When Lorgar turned Angron into a Daemon Primarch?

>>51720273
When he got super mad at the Ultramarines after Monarchia got wasted.

>>51720273
What about the time where he started writing about how the Jews needed to be driven away because they weren't lining up outside his door to convert?

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I'm building every consul for my TS just because I can, but now I'm realizing that I don't know what's the best load out for my forge lord.

How do you guys equip your forgelords?

>>51720749
>Catti-termintor
>cyber familar
>chainfist
>rad 'nads
>add tech-presit stuff to taste

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would using pic related heads in tartaros armor be a suitable enough upgrade to be considered "sekhmet" terminators? or should I just go whole hog and support GW by buying their scarab occult dudes.

New to 30k. Legion list building is a little overwhelming compared to my regular 40k territory. How do I make a Phosphex-using IW Ironfire army that's decent without running out of points by the fourth unit?

>>51720797

Honestly I would go Scarab occult. The Tzeench icons are minimal and you don't even really need to convert their equipment much.

>>51720844
by playing at 3k and not using ironfire you tremendous fucking faggot

>>51720852
Just a question, man. My 40k dudes are World Eaters and I wanted to mix it up some. I've never even fielded a barrage weapon before.

>>51720866
Just a heads up that Ironfire IW are considered cheese and anti-fun

if you play to run IW limit yourself to 2 quad mortars and 1 medusa/basilisk max, and field big bitter tac blobs

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Play alot of ZM with my local, am I a bad man for making a myrmidon heavy 13 model 1250pts list full of irradiation engines and grav imploders?

>>51720896
Fair enough. The alternative I considered was Blood Angels, but like IW, I struggled to get them set up to do more than a super mediocre job.

>>51720904
of course you are anon, you big old nigger

>>51720259
That would be kind of funny though. Horus: "This idiot is trying to nail some sheets to the bestes defended door in the imperium!"
Mortarion: "Thats why we are losing the war."
Perdurabo: -decimates internally-

>>51720079
This makes no sense

Anyone else off over half term, excited to do some priming and getting fucked by the weather?

>>51721291
Weather's just starting to get better here, so I'm looking forward

>>51721291
Its finally stopped raining here, so I plan to do a shitload of priming tomorrow to catch up with all the models ive assembled over the past few weeks

>2 Tantalus
>2 Raiders
>3 Venoms
>20 kabalites
>80 night goblins
>8 converted Squig machinegunners
>2 mega dreds
>landspeeder javelin
>20 mk 3 tacticals
>various characters ive converted

>>51721291
Off for half term but too much studying to have fun unless it's dark

>>51720563
No that was because he ate with a Jewish family and got food poisoning because they were poor

Should i get a melta or two on Sekhmets, or is relying on saturation power from plasma enough most vehicles?

Armoured Ceramite makes melta was less appealing.

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More work done on these guys, just waiting on FW shoulderpads now.

>>51721645
I run plasma and two chainfists per five, but if you're deepstriking them then melta can be effective against things like sicarans and artillery that can be overlooked

>>51721650
Please tell me you're removing mouldlines

>>51721737
yes, it may seem strange to do it after assembly, but I've found the results are the same but it saves me about half the time I spend doing it before assembly since I don't fuck with hidden ones

in that pic the glue is still drying on some parts, currently on #2 for moldlines and some other sanding

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>>51719600
>>51719700
>SM meets dead space.
Just putting that here.

>>51721805
Why are other orks passively watching the beakie stomp one of their boyz's head?

>>51722048
they know better than to interrupt a blood angel during stomping time?
They learnt that much from their little encounter with Mephiston

>>51721650
Good conversion so far. Making them look like bolters is IMO a perfect compromise. It only makes sense that "sniper vets" look like "sniper vets", though it's fine on the other hand to look "normal" and fluff the rule as being conferred by their skill or tactics.

What's the left shoulderpad by the way?
And double check that the barrels are straight aligned with the bolter. I fear they might be tilting to the left.

>>51722048
It's from Regicide, the goddamn chess game that superb animations and great graphics, all wasted on a goddamn CHESS GAME.

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>>51721805

>>51721650
Good work, I think it's a really good balance

>>51720904
The act of destruction is always sacred. There is no overkill.

Omnissiah Vult

>>51722048
Not much they can do at that point. Might as well watch the git get his head stomped.

>>51722403
And it was Gobnibble anyway

Nobody liked Gobnibbla

>>51722086
>>51722403
True enough.
kek

>>51722118
How the AI in case you played it? I thought about practicing some chess, it won't hurt if there's some blood on the field.

>>51722118
You seem mad that it was used for a chess game.
>>51722430
True enough. Gobibba was a surly Loota who deserved to die. He killed my Squig.

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>>51722351
his will be done, I will destroy so he may rebuild!

>>51722467
How does that cogboy's wires not get destroyed?

>>51722442
Haven't played it I'm afraid. Last time I played chess was more than a decade ago when my mother sent me away on a chess summercamp because she didn't want me to stay at home and play vidya.

>>51722453
Of course I'm mad. It came out at the time we were starved for a 40k game, everyone saw the teaser that looked cool, but they weren't clear it was a chess game at first. Such a waste of talent.

So what units would be classed as "Megaheavies"? Now superheavies are somewhat more common, what's taken their old spot?
Ordinatii, the Manta, Eldar Revenants, Reaver and Warlord Titans obviously, maybe the Stormbird and Warhound?
Those who have Titans, do Warhounds hit the table often enough for that? They're a bit borderline between the "Knight/Baneblade" levels and the Megaheavies.

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>>51722482
>Of course I'm mad. It came out at the time we were starved for a 40k game, everyone saw the teaser that looked cool, but they weren't clear it was a chess game at first. Such a waste of talent.
Maybe that talent can be used in the future for not a chess game. Have some Jackson.

>>51722598
>Megaheavies
Never heard that term before, (in any community,) so it's kind of difficult to answer your question.

>>51722632
Nah, I kind of made it up. There's now that class of completely huge Superheavy models that really aren't on the same tier as a Knight or Malcador, the really big bastards. Generally they don't actually get used outside of Apoc, same as the position of the old Superheavies like the Baneblade.

>>51719298
Christ /pol/ get the fuck out of /hhg/.
Most of you /pol/ scum probably don't even buy FW, you just screech autistically about mah rights and mah Trump while playing with plastic and Chinacast.

>>51722653
Ah, got it. Funnily enough I think of it the other way round, that there are superheavies and "supermiddleweights" like the malcador.

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>>51722666
Begone, demon!

We fight heresy wherever it is found!

>>51719785
No dorito dread. Take Morris contemptor with dual kheres. That bastard WITH tank hunter? Drink the tears.
Also, Exterminator protocols means termie blob with combi bolters is infantry murder.

>>51722679
Yeah, there's probably three types. The "Supermiddleweights" with the Malcadors, Crassus variants and such, which sometimes aren't LoW slots, like the Minotaur (Squadrons of the things, even) and Infernus, the Superheavies proper with Knights, Baneblade variants and probably the Thunderhawk and Marauder aircraft, and the Megaheavies with the Titans, Ordinatii and smaller voidships like the Manta.

Couple of them are borderline, though, like the Warhound, the Mastodon and possibly the Stormbird. Borderline is about 800 points, I think, but they're such large and shooty models it's blurry.

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>>51722693
Anon, don't rely to him. It'll ruin the thread.

How does one justify a Spartan Assault Tank? Sure, it's godamn unkillable, but for 370 points it's a big investment.

What do you fill it up with? One Termie blob doesn't seem smart, but a Tac blob feels like a waste. How can it make its points back?

>>51722479
Same way that the loose wires and cables on Space Marines in the art don't snag on things and break. The answer is, don't think about it.

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>>51722827
So, so as long as the cogboy doesn't think about the wires they'll be fine?

>>51722840
Hey, things can happen in the 40K universe if you just believe hard enough that they can. Stands to reason that not thinking about something will have the opposite effect, right?

Since I've decided saving money is for plebs, I want to do a White Scars Chogorian Brotherhood army. Need some help piecing together some things.

2000 points
HQ
Primus Medicae 140
-bike
-power glaive
-melta bombs

Delegatus 150
-jetbike
-refractor field
-melta bombs
-power glaive

Troops
2x Skyhunter Squadron 260 each
-6 jetbikes each
-2x volkite culverin each

2x Outrider Squad 200 each
-6 bikes each
-2 power swords each

Fast Attack
2x Landspeeder Squadron 110 each
-2 speeders
-graviton guns

Seeker Squad 305
-10 marines
-Rhino
-strike leader w/ artificer, melta bombs

Heavy Support
Sky Slayer Squadron 255
-5x multimelta

1980 total. 20 points to spend, not sure where to put it. I want to play primarily shooty, but the outriders are meant to assault with their power swords. Both consuls in one jetbike squad. I might want apothecaries for the outriders but that's 70 points per squad giving them bikes.

>>51722888
Might wanna grab some Nuncio Voxes, the seekers would be a good spot. It'll give you a good backup in case terrain is too dangerous

>>51722888
If the outriders are meant to assault, you might as well give each a sergeant with a glaive.

Incidentally, is 1d4chan down for anyone else at the moment?

>>51722992
Nuncio voxes are for deep striking though, right? I don't plan on having much if any, and the ROW requires infantry (ie seekers) to start in reserve so there's no guarantee it would be worthwhile anyway

>>51722875
So that explains how marines can keep their purity seals from being damaged in battle.

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>>51720068
>not missile launchers

>>51723129
Did the salamanders use purity seals/oaths of moment?
>sergeant, it caught fire again
>for fuck's sake brother

>>51723184
>sergeant, I'm concerned about the long-term effects of these asbestos purity seals on the health of the civilian population

>>51722048
> I 2

>>51722702
One of those would work as well. I was pointing out the buff that makes those las cannons actually reliable and penning Spartans and not perpetuating the meme of mortis Kheres

>>51723256

Implying the Imperium cares...

>>51722888
Fuck those seekers, make a killy a command squad

>>51723275
But it fucking works in Ironwing.
It covers your air defense, as well as being a good source of anti... well... everything.

>>51719412
Having Faith.

>>51723256
>Just make sure they don't tear or rip and nothing can go wrong

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>>51723278
Sallies do.

>>51723335
>sergeant, I'm concerned about indigestible particles of adamantium purity seals getting lodged in the respiratory or digestive systems of civilians

>>51723281
Could work...seekers are rather expensive as it is and I don't actually know how useful they are. I really only took them because they seem like the best infantry to take advantage of the outflank they get from the rite Drop them, maybe take a bike praetor instead of jetbike delegatus, bike command squad.

>>51723377
The issue I'd have with outflanking seekers is it takes several turns to be able to fire their best ammo (scorpius) because they have to stand still to do so, and even disembarking from the rhino is moving.

You may be better off with a veteran squad loaded up with combiweapons, they can come on, disembark, and unload into a target. Cheaper than seekers with combiweapons too.

>>51720068
I usually have one matoris boxnought in my list, stick a hunter killer missile on it with las and watch it poo stuff.

>>51723457
>and watch it poo stuff.
Designated shitting slot?

>>51723425
Think I'm gonna drop infantry entirely and go for the entire fast force. Having bikes as troops and getting hit and run is, I think, a good enough bonus that the infantry outflank stuff is just gravy.

Amended:
2000 points
HQ
Primus Medicae 140
-bike
-power glaive
-melta bombs

Praetor 450
-bike
-iron halo
-melta bombs
-paragon blade
-digital lasers
Command squad:
-4x chosen on bikes
-standard bearer on bike
-5x power weapon

Troops
2x Skyhunter Squadron 260 each
-6 jetbikes each
-2x volkite culverin each

2x Outrider Squad 230 each
-6 bikes each
-2 power swords each
-Outrider sergeant w/ power glaive

Fast Attack
2x Landspeeder Squadron 110 each
-2 speeders
-graviton guns


Heavy Support
Sky Slayer Squadron 210
-4x multimelta

2000 points on the nose. Not sure whether to go power axes or swords on my command squad. I also think this gives me a good balance between anti infantry shooting from the sky slayers, assault with the outriders and command squad, and anti armor with the sky slayers and the landspeeders. My other legion is World Eaters, and they're all assault with a weirdly high amount of anti tank (javelins and melta jetbikes) so a good shooty army is a nice change.

>>51723017
Yes

>>51722888
>Heavy Support
>Sky Slayer Squadron 255
>-5x multimelta

No.

>>51723981
? Why. It wrecks everything that isn't AC Spartans or Land Raiders. You can always move to the rear armor.

>>51722888
>saving money is for plebs
>Seeker Squad 305
>-10 marines
>-Rhino
I bet even the outriders will be plastic.
See you watching me leave you in the dust.
signed, Ravenwing

>>51722467
Oh fuck is that a rogue trader era robot?

>>51724059
Fuck the rowbutt, I think those are Termites behind it.

>>51724015
Admittedly I was going to have Mk IV seekers but I'm going to try to figure a decent way to make Mk II riders for all my bikes. Only problem is the legs

>>51724118
Kromlech sells some biker legs with somewhat MkII style segmented plating. I never liked them that much, so was never interested, but it'd an option.

Post paint scheme memes

>1ksons: sprayed shiny tamiya red with one flat gold highlight, washed once
>AL:sprayed blue, lead belcher trim if you're lucky
>IW: leadbelcher, meme oil, poorly painted hazard stripes

>>51724215
>IF: Army painter yellow with any brown wash, bonus for army painter dip

>>51724215
>DG: white primer, agrax

>>51724215
>plastic grey with highlights of various shades of resin

>>51724215
>WE: prime white, Dip in Blood for the Blood God

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>>51724327
>tfw knightanon didn't even do the second step

>>51724336
Or step 3: model your chainaxes

>>51722823

Because it hits surprisingly hard with its double quad lascannons and like you said, it's an indestructible game piece that will happy drive up into the enemies grill

>>51719298

I'd like to read more about the traitor primarchs before the heresy. I know Alpharius, Horus, Mortarion, Fulgrim, Lorgar, and Magnus had their own books, but what about Angron, Cruze, and Perterabo?

>>51722888

Plasma cannons on jetbikes are an acceptable risk due to the 2+

Don't put multi meltas on jetbikes, they want to be far back.

Find how to give your outriders sergeants with power glaives. Power glaives are your other legion trait and are exactly as important, use them at all opportunities unless you have a paragon blade.

>>51724444
Kek, Lord Fordquads

>>51724534
They're doing a series of books about the Primarchs before the Heresy.

>>51719298
I'm just saying the emperor wasn't elected. If he wanted to rule humanity he should have had a vote. I for one think Malcador would have made a great God Chancellor of Mankind

Does Sniper rule on Vets work on psychic powers? I.e always wounding on 4s Smite.

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Finished the flamer guys.

>>51724611
Awesome, saved.

>>51724603
The Sniper rule only applies to weapons not psychic powers.

>>51724444
The free ones?

>>51724603
What >>51724647 said. Sniper rule on a model is used when using a ranged weapon. Psychic powers aren't classified as weapons, even if they make shooting attacks. So Sniper rule would not work on them.

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Daily reminder.

>>51719422
Combi-plasma on everyone
Two chainfists
Two force axes
One force sword

Done. Shush now.

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>listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY-6x6ygwK8 and reading 'Scars'
>mfw

>>51724888
Why does trips want to start shit?

>>51724215
Is it really a meme, if you are supposed to do it that way?

>>51724888
Is that fucking AWG

Wrote a 4k Reductor list to get some bits for, going to work on it along with the Filiketos because sometime's it's nice to batch-paint a couple dozen simple infantry and not have to concentrate loads.
Thoughts?

4k Ordo Reductor - AoD FoC.

HQ:

- Magos Reductor with Machinator Array (150)
- Archmagos Archimandrite with Cyber-familliar, Abeyant, Machinator Array, Djinn-Skein and 4 Occularis, Chainfist, Photon Thruster (355) Warlord.

ELITE:

- Techpriest Enginseer Auixilia - 1 extra Enginseer, 4 Servo-arm servitors (105)

TROOPS:

- 3 Thallax, Photon Thruster, Destructor (175)
- 3 Thallax, Photon Thruster, Destructor (175)
- 12 Secutarii Hoplites, Omnispex (164)

FAST ATTACK:

- Arvus Lighter with Twin-Linked Multilaser (90)
- Lightning Fighter with 4 Kraken Missiles, Servitor Control and Auguries (210)

HEAVY SUPPORT:

- Macrocarid Explorator with Explorator Web, Flare, Ceramite, Grav Imploder and sponson Irrads (345)
- 3 Myrmidon Destructors with Graviton Imploders (240)
- Artillery tank squad - 3 Medusae, Siege Plating, Machine Spirit, twin-linked bolter (480)

FORTIFICATION

- Skyshield Landing Pad (75)

LORD OF WAR:

- Suborbital Strike Wing - One Sokar-Pattern Stormbird, Orbital Strikes Upgrade - (Has to be the 40k Version, so 1 less lascannon and some extra heavy bolters) - 1000pts.
Allied Detatchment - Miltia and Cults

HQ:

- Force Commander, Tainted Weapon (55)
- Provenances - Cult Horde and Tainted Flesh (70)

TROOPS:

- Levy Squad - 50 Levies, Frags, 2 CCW each. (110)
- Levy Squad - 50 Levies, Frags, 2 CCW each. (110)

HEAVY SUPPORT:

- 3 Mutant Spawn (85)

TOTAL: 3994 POINTS

Spawn are there because they seem fun, def. better things to do with the last 91pts.

>>51720563
>>51721626
It may have had something to do with the time they sacrificed a baby in Trent and drained his blood

>>51725132
Yup.
Aside from one post where I said who I was, I have been keeping the trip off.
But people like starting shit.

>>51724888
Seen this thrown around a bit and I know it's Space Wolves related, but where does this actually come from? Is it out of a book? Does it actually describe it as a wet Leopard growl?

>>51725192
Nope. It's because I have a trip and use it when posting content.
Peoples hate for trips do a lot further than I expected, enough to find personal pictures and attempt to dox me.

>>51725192
>Is it out of a book?

Prospero Burns.

>>51725192
The phrase is spammed in HH SW novels for some reason.

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>>51724215
ALPHALPHALPHALPHA

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>>51724215
>WS: Chunky white primer, blobs of red

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>>51724215
>WE: White primer, cut wrists to splash blood

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>>51724215
>SoH: Green but leave black primer in parts, some metal bits. Wash nothing.

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>>51724215
>IF: Prime black, slap some yellow

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>>51724215
>IF v2: Dip in yellow house paint, varnish

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>>51724215
>IH: Ask god for forgiveness

Redpill me on the SW rules.

>>51724215
>RG, DA: Prime black, dry brush light grey, wash black.
>IH: Prime silver, dunk in nuln oil.

>>51725352
Is that Sicaran made of cardboard and paint pots.

>>51724932
Honestly, you may also want to but more /w plasma/axes for 40pts each. They are just really good. Full ten man squad can probably outright vaporize 250pts worth of veterans while being silly mobile thanks to Levitate(2 dice with that 3+!) and durable thanks to being 2+/3++ with two wounds.

They are just amazingly point efficient unit, and act as really good distraction.

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>>51724215
>EC: Slap some gold on ur purp

Who the fuck is making these

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>>51724215
>BA: Just don't give a shit anymore

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>>51724215
>UM and Sallies: sfknhcefudas ef akj erg43 adli4t oaj,m arengjkarnfga ljql

>>51725132
The guy looks like one of my friends who would've reached level 30 had he not gone to prostitutes.

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>>51724215
>IH v2: Print stuff on black paper, and use as decals

>>51725390
Of course. If you get more, keep pumping in combis and axes.

I just meant that 2/2/1 if you're sticking to the starting size.

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>>51725433
Christ why

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>>51725282

>>51725341
Looks like a toy from Sonic.
>>51725352
Is that even resin?

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>>51725500
Because we are in the Age of Darkness

>>51725518
That script looks pretty sweet, actually.

>>51725282
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>>51725478

The Poorfag Heresy: Triggering of Anon.

In the grim darkness of the 3rd Millennium, there is only autism.

Wait we've seen these pics before.

>>51725545
please no, dont encourage him. the last time someone dared him, he sabotaged with the entire thread with these abominations

>>51725545
/hhg/ in a nutshell

>>51725545
[REEEEEEEEing in distance]

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>>51725282
>>51725301
>>51725311
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>>51725518

>>51725545
I don't hate them.

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First HH list I've made, doing some Imperialis Militia based out of a Feudal World

Force Commander - 175
(Power Armor, Iron Halo, Plasma Pistol+Power Weapon, Cyber-familiar) Alchem Jackers, Feral Warriors

Platoon Command Cadre - 65
(+4 grunts, Refractor Field, Carapace Armor)

Gorgon Heavy Transport - 295
Twin-linked Lascannon

Militia Grenadier Squad (20) - 145
Melta Gun, Flamer, Laslocks

Militia Infantry Squad (20) - 55
Melta Bomb

Militia Infantry Squad (20) - 55
Melta Bomb

Inducted Levy Squad (50) - 110
Discipline Collars

Auxulia Rapier Battery (2) - 100
Laser Destroyer Array

I'm not sure how many troop choices I should have for objectives or how anti-tank I need to be this low in points

>>51725672
>Feudal World
>(Power Armor, Iron Halo, Plasma Pistol+Power Weapon
Something isn't quite adding up here.

Also it 's just occurred to me that there isn't a provenance to make cavalry, what the fuck. Why can't I take a proper medieval army in HH damnit.

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>>51725282
>>51725311
>>51725301
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>>51725433
>>51725455
>>51725478

wew!

>>51725733
It's a combination of Feudal and modern. Like the Commander being given access to special equipment as long as it's not reproduced and hidden in a veil of religious purpose.

Like the Gorgon will be a mobile castle that's a type of relic for the planet

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>>51725738
brother!

>>51725738
Be strong, Clarence. Be strong for the Emperor.

>>51725751
>Like the Gorgon will be a mobile castle that's a type of relic for the planet
I like you, how does it move? Is it a ground level cloud castle a fog castle, if you will or is it pull by an entire Bretonnian army?

>>51725733
The biggest glaring issue with medieval militia is there's IIRC no option for shields or two-handed weapons for your units, everyone has to have pistol side weapons.

>>51725810
Alright, what would a medieval provenance look like?

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>>51725758
>BE STRONG BROTHER

>>51725799
That sounds far too complex for me, maybe it can be horse assisted. Not sure how I would model it, I'm thinking fancy tents over the open-topped part similar to a command tent

How many horses would it take to pull a Gorgon in neutral

>>51725936
>Not sure how I would model it, I'm thinking fancy tents over the open-topped part similar to a command tent
Anon, you said a castle, a castle is not a tent I want to see battlements, I want to see a keep and I want to some Theodosian walls. So get researching.

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>>51725738
Brother Smik?

>>51726066
What is this? A good idea for ants?

>>51726096
No, for lobsters.

>>51726129
>not "for shrimp"
ONE. JOB.

>>51725370
Grey Slayers are pretty cool.

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>>51726240
Ummm, no, actually they can't wipe out a tactical squad without taking casualties of their own, so they're CLEARLY shit.

>>51725873
You'd have the option to make it properly "medieval" or "space roman", and give them an option to be without pistols.
You'd also give them breacher shields, and the option to be without pistols or ranged weapons, which defeats the entire purpose of making an army and saying "these are techno-knights", if they just behave like a modern/Cadian-style regiment with an emphasis on CQC.

They'd also give the feudal world options somewhat like a rite of war, to display the diversity that occured in pre-modern armies.

>>51725370
They stole the Death Guard's scythes and have armor that gives +1W.

Deathsworn are pretty much everything Destroyers want to be.

>>51726299
It's not like Medieval armies were completely devoid of ranged weapons, just wouldn't have pistols.
I suppose you would have to remove power armour, iron halos and all that jazz as options, but then again plate armour and power armour have the same rules in talisman which is the only time they've appeared in the same game, to my knowledge.
>>51726293
Heh.

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So what bitz should I use to make my Genetor Magi? Was thinking Wrack parts and syringes, and maybe an Arachnarok Spider as the abeyant for my Scoria proxy? Remove the upper-back section of the abdomen, turn the abdomen into a command platform with a couple control consoles and a socket for his upper body and such. Not sure what I'd do for the Vodian Sceptre other than strap some evil medical tools to his mandibles and general cybernetics everywhere, though.

What for the lesser Magi and the Servitors and Enginseers, though?

>>51726293
>Naked Tac squad equivalent performs about on par with naked Tac squad
>Somehow this surprises people
Fuck it, I'm going to a steak house and not informing the press.

>>51726293
B&C is the dumbest warhammer forum and yiffs are the dumbest warhammer fanbase... a daring synthases.

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>>51726293
>why don't space wolves automatically turn chainswords/combat blades into +1 power swords
>why does charging straight against entrenched infantry prepared to preserve their own lives not immediately destroy them
>why is taking vehicles and combined arms better than infantry spam
Perty, get the phosphex...

>>51726350
>I suppose you would have to remove power armour, iron halos and all that jazz as options
No, because this is a world that's feudal in its culture. The technology on that world is low-tech, and so they're given or prefer to use melee-weaponry when fighting against "up to date" troops.
Or technology survived on that world, but only partially, so for example the power armour and energy fields are just as advanced, but guns have barely advanced beyond lasrifle levels of effectiveness, are tough to produce, and are only as accurate and easy-to-use as historical early guns, so you end up with an equivalent "meta" to our early modern warfare, but with a technology level possibly far in advance of our own, or even more crude even.

>>51726427
Just go with the simple and common explanation, nobles have technology and peasants wallow in the mud.

>>51726507
Other explanations exist.

And besides, mass society armed with with high technology beats a society with limited technological access.

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>>51726427
Feudal worlds don't make SHIT other than raw materials and food. Nearly everything anyone needs is made by forge worlds or industrial worlds. Cadia was famous for being able to outfit its own troops with equipment, few worlds can do this, let alone a Feudal world.

A generally low tech world would have no hope of even maintaining power armour, god forbid forcefield tech, because of the industrial and scientific base required. There is no chance they could actually make any.

Feudal worlds generally shit out Ecclisarchal nutters and cavalry by the thousand, but they're not the type to have even las weapon production.

A better representation would be a fuckton of levy with flintlock weapons or CCW led by a Noble in his passed down power armour (Make it look clunky as shit) with some Rough Riders allied in for shits and giggles, it's not like this is a serious list anyway.

>>51722734
Couldn't we call the Malcador and everything on that chassis "heavy"? That would make the Leman Russ a medium tank, which sounds fine to me.

I agree with the rest of your classifications. Though Ordinatus Minorus can probably just fit into the superheavy category. They may have a bigger gun, but they probably only weigh about the same as a Baneblade (and in older fluff at least, the Shadowsword's Volcano Cannon wasn't supposed to be very different from the Volcano Cannon on an Ordinatus or titan arm).

>>51722823
Unless you've got a really expensive unit that's meant to do most of your killing, I'd consider dropping all the upgrades.

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Just finished converting the standard bearer for my Vlka Fenryka huscarls. Banner is inspired by those fancy ass 11th century viking banners btw sorry for huge pic but didnt want to cut the banner off obviously. Thoughts?

>>51726603
Noice

>>51726600
If the Leman Russ is medium, what the fuck is a light tank? The Russ is as small as you get before you are talking about armoured vehicles, not tanks.

>>51726603
Way too fucking huge. That's big for a dreadnought to carry, let alone a single dude

>>51726603
The greenstuff hair looks like a pile of shit. Add some texture.

>>51726593
except that pre imperial caliban has crude boltpistols, chainswords and even powered armor. as seen in angels descent.

>>51726635
A predator?

>>51726640
It's a Great Frost Banner

>>51726593
It's a big galaxy, the scenario I described is entirely plausible and only ONE kind of "feudal world", which is not the same thing as "low-tech world".
Especially when this is describing worlds fresh out of Old Night, where literally anything could have existed. Tying down the setting to "this is how X was" is fucking retarded.
The type of world you're describing existed, but it's entirely different than another type of "feudal world", which as I described, would have come out of Old Night without being planet of the apes, and be its own self-sutaining thing, as it would have to have been during Old Night.

>>51726640
That shit is fabric and a space marine is literally strong as hell. I found it appropriately sized for a company standard, exspecially considering those banners irl had diameters up to 120 cm

>>51726640
It's just a cloth, and this is a superhuman in the most advanced power armour in the galaxy. He can lift it.

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>>51726603
Nice.

>>51726657
Kek. I assume it's carried on a fenrisian wolfwood standard?

>>51726646
Youre not wrong, but can you recommend a way of doing it? I cant seem to handle hair texture

>>51726705
The best way is to wear your damn helmet, there's a reason you were issued with one.

>>51726600
Yeah, that works OK. Ordinatii have that "This is my army, the rest is just to hold off the melee" feel you sometimes get with Titans, and they certainly have the firepower for it. Think they're another borderline case, honestly.

So:

Heavies:
- Malcador, Macharius and Crassus variants.

Superheavies:

- All the usual stuff, Knights, Baneblades, Thunderhawks and most of the old SH tanks.

Borderline:

- Warhound Titan, Ordinatii, Stormbird, Mastodon, Tau Supremacy Suit.

Megaheavies:

- All other Titans, inc. Xenos ones.
- Manta

>>51726705
Liquid green stuff and use one of the manipulator things to put some lines and curls into it.

>>51726705
Look at how GW models their hair. Use a hobby knife too.

>>51726718
>>51726733
Thanks for the advice.

>>51726705
just get a sharp spike or a needle or something and pull the greenstuff around when its wet

>>51726683
>>51726690
Strength doesn't matter, it's too fuck hueg.

It doesn't work proportionally it's 4 times his height and 3 times his width. it's unwieldy just from the dimensions.

What are some good unit choices for my Alpha Legion that emphasize them as a specialist weapon cadre with unlimited access to the arcane high tech weaponry the Legion was sometimes known for employing?

I've got 10 Lernaeans to bring 2 Conversion beamers to the field, and I plan to build a Conversion Beamer/Grav Fist dread. I've also got a squad of jump pack Destroyers for the obvious thematic reasons and because they're my favourite model in the HH range.

I've seen that plate from the Siege of Mezoa chapter in Retribution that talks about their preference for Sicaran Venators despite the pattern being known for field maintenance issues, and I know I'm going to need more reliable anti tank than the CBs (but I'm too passionate about CB Lernaeans to drop them, and beamers and chainfists is just too expensive pointswise) so that's a good idea.

>>51726603
Fuck yes. Do a Norse Raven banner for maximum defiance of wolvery.

>>51726785
>FATHER PLEASE NOTICE ME

>>51726593
Feudal worlds aren't necessarily low-tech, they just have a silly, old-fashioned social system. Keep in mind most knight worlds are feudal. The nobles can still maintain them (just), and the peasantry may still have access to some of the old STC stuff the original colonists brought with them.

But whatever technology has been forgotten has been replaced by low-tech stopgaps. They might have Leman Russ-like tractors, fuzzy 3D hololiths for entertainment, but depend on semaphore for long-distance communication. Or they might not have enough fuel for those tractors so they use oxen, but they can still make batteries so they have lascutters and power weapons.

>>51725672
Is this enough scoring troops though? The induced levy don't give points when killed so they're going to be straight cannon-fodder, but is there enough anti-tank in here?

>>51726785
>it's too fuck hueg.
It's not though. Have you ever heard of pikes?

>>51726818
Exactly.
The world he was describing is more like just a low-tech hive-world, with barely any "feudal" elements besides an aristocracy and the imperial faith, which wasn't a fucking thing in 30k.

>>51726795
Techmarines.
Seekers.
Destroyers.

>>51726844
Already got two of those boxes ticked, so I'm getting a sense that between getting a Socaran Venator or some LD Vindicators I'm pretty good.

>>51726795
medusan immortals would be cool with AL, volkite breacher shields and grav guns. never thought of it before now

>>51726718
If the Emperor meant Astartes to wear helmets why can they spit acid?

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>>51726894
The best and most loyal marines can't.

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>>51724611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5L7GyZeazM

>>51726922
That isn't Alpha Legion.

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>>51726922
Dorn had them surgically removed to prevent accusations that their tongues were acid.

>>51726937
>>>>>implying it isn't :^)

>>51726922
>and still dont wear helmets

>>51726603
Those are some huge hands.

>>51722117
they're actually meant for use as recons/seekers since I wanted some visual distinction between those squads beyond markings.

the barrels are straight, it's probably just a perspective issue on the camera from how they're being held by the marines. Left shoulderpad is just the partial lip one from the mk 4 sprue, which I'm using on support squads for easy visual references.

>>51726653
It's all based on a single DAoT suit and equipment worn by the founder of the Order, meaning Calibanites had some skill.

>>51727119
which means that a feudal world without any large industry could infact maintain +3 armors and post modern pistols... given some "plot armor" and coincidences in its history.

>>51727133
Nah, maybe 4+. It was never on a big scale though, only relatively few people had access to that.

>>51727198
>Nah, maybe 4+

>"nuh-uh"

>only relatively few people had access to that.
Ah yes, because 3+ saves are everywhere in the militia lists.

>>51727198
>>51727245
one of the knights does compare against astartes plate and feels it comes up lacking, but he mostly talks about the life support systems of astartes plate, but yes its less protective, but it is also noted that the best examples of caliban plate is not too far of even when it comes the life support functions of astartes plate.

So how cheesy is it to use the Levy blobs with Cult Horde and Tainted Flesh as allies so I can have some large scoring units to back my Genetors up? I figured I'd model about 40 as Skavenslaves with some other bits for joint use as Adsec, and mix in Ghouls and such for the rest. Obviously Admeched up.

Wanted some big blobs so I can fill the deployment against people like Mortarion and Custodes teleporting in and wrecking my shit, as well as tarpitting.

>>51727424
if you're going dark mech, sounds pretty fluffy actually. I'd imagine ghouls with the right paintjob and a little conversion would look great as mutated experiments being herded into the fight. For adsecularis I'd still stick with the normal models, as they're heavily augmented.

Why, exactly, is there a tank named for Leman Russ? The more I know about SW in general the less it really makes sense. Dorn or Guilliman seem more the type to have a tank named after them

>>51727455
Dark Genetors using the Reductor rules, because I apparently hate having fluff and characters so I picked the most hipster army I could think of ;)

That was the plan for the Ghouls, yeah, they're just flash-cloned chumps that they create a few days prior to their battles and throw into fights to eat bullets, since they have rather less room for standing forces on a Reductor fleet than a Forge World. Force Commander was probably going to be an Enginseer with a Wrack whip, as an "Overseer". Not sure what to do for sargents yet, maybe make one standing taller and with an actual pistol, or greenstuff on some extra muscle.
Adsec as Clanrats was mostly a cheapskate measure, I'll admit, and that way I can grab a Spire of Dawn box for a bunch of conversion bits and two Rat-Ogres to make into Vorax. Also would rather paint 100 basic infantry than 140. Normally I'm not that fussed about FW prices, but more than a pound per point is a bit much.
Also, if the rest of the model was going to be armoured monsters, mad scientists and artillery firing chemical shells, backed up by biological airships and cybersquid drones, having a bunch of shiny humans about would look a tad odd.

New provenance: Techno-barbarians

>grenadiers can all get power weapons 5 ppm
>can buy power armor (unsure of cost)
>can get some fancy ranged weapons too
>+1 Ld
>no discipline masters
>unrelated, but change augmented weapons to +1 S
>can't be mixed with the +1 armor/+1 I

>>51726974
Welcome to heroic scale

>>51727575
get the FW respirator helmets and use cadians, paint the hands like gloves. adsec thralls are pretty much levy troops if you're using rifles and not mitralocks. or if you really don't care use the gene-cult upgrade kit and paint them like fleet deckhands pressed into service.

>>51727537
Malcador and Valdor have tanks named for them too, and they were more obscure than the Primarchs.

It might be a thing done before his wounding by the Emperor for God-knows-what-reasoning, or some act of politicking by Guilliman after the council-of-Terra thing.
Or even a subtle act of politics by the Mechanicum, telling Guilliman that they weren't in support of his rearrangements and if Russ and Dorn got together to overturn it, they'd support giving the Ultramarines the Prospero treatment.

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Why would you give your opponent a ramp to run up. Just to check to you can use these and Stronghold assault rules in 30k right.
Also does anyone else know a good place to buy model trenches from?

>>51726603
Interesting choice with the long flaccid penis attached to his head

>>51727616
Got GSC neopytes converted up as Servitors on the cards, since their mining suits look good for that with a servo-arm and cybernetic head.

After a second look, Anvil Industries does a "Gothic Void Torso/Head" which looks about perfect for those and/or spaceship crew. I'll have a look.

Any bits recommendations for a terminator forge lord without using the iron father model?

>>51726795
Conversion beamers are awesome, but it does feel like a waste to give Terminators a long-range stand-off weapon. Combined with the destroyers you'll have a slightly weaker army. But they're both cool units so I'm not trying to dissuade you.

Brings lots of volkite too. If you use Pride of the Legion (which requires a lot of infantry squads) you can run the Lerneans as troops and then bring support squads with more volkite... really minimize the bolters.

>>51727625
If I recall correctly, I don't think they're in any of the rulebooks, but I don't see why anyone would deny you using them, at least for a friendly game (though the AV15 buildings might be a no-no).

Your best bet for inexpensive trenches is to make your own. Laser cut MDF isn't expensive and you can design an interlocking trench set with a free CAD program. I recommend eMachineShop.

A lot of "maker spaces" have laser cutters or there are plenty of services online. The bastard's going to be finding 1/8" or 3mm MDF.

>>51725810
>The biggest glaring issue with medieval militia is there's IIRC no option for shields

Use Cyber-enhanced's 6++ or SotDA's +1 to armour as the shield.

>two-handed weapons for your units

Grenadiers get Augmented Weapons (Str. 4), while not two-handed by rules, can surely be modeled that way.

>everyone has to have pistol side weapons.

Infantry, Grenadier and Levy squads all have the choice to have just two close combat weapons on them.

>>51727756
That's a tricky one, unless we talk third party, in which case your options are in this case as good as your google-fu.

It's basically impossible if you exclude GW bitz from Indomitus armour too. Then you're left with just Mechanicum or non-terminator techmarines to get bitz from, and if you go that route, then you can make anything work so long as you get that "claw" look and have some GS skill to put the pieces look together.

>>51727840
I'll look more into it as you describe. It's been a while since I looked at the rules for them.

>>51727537
My headcannon is that it's a post-Heresy name. At that time Russ was less kinslayer and more protector of mankind, so someone might've named it after him without asking.

A few novels, like Tallarn Executioner, never call the tank "Leman Russ". Of course, in that book they were only using variants, and they just called them Vanquishers, Executioners, etc. So someone else is thinking it too.

>>51727625
>Why would you give your opponent a ramp to run up.
Those are actually giant claymores.

>>51726293
Does B&C radiate some brain cancer inducing energy through the screen or something?

>>51727933
It reduces their toughness by 1.

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>>51726635
Russ is more of an Infantry tank, like the Churchill. Big, heavy, well armoured, slow as shit, and even had a gun option in 40k scale.

>>51727625
http://www.amera.co.uk/product.php?range=z

>>51726635
The Russ is configured a lot like a WWII medium tank. Good for infantry support, has a weapon that can take out other tanks, enough armor to be immune to small arms fire but still vulnerable to other tanks and infantry-carried anti-tank weapons, not terribly fast, used en masse, etc.

If there were a combat variant of the Centaur, that would be light. Light tanks went out of fashion once engines became powerful enough for tanks to have good armor, guns, AND speed (main battle tanks), but when they existed they generally had lousy armor. Sometimes not even enough to stop machine gun fire. But when good engines were available, they could have a decent gun and decent speed. They were often used in recon... I guess more like the Imperial Army/Guard uses the Salamander.

*cough* Predator *cough*

>>51728389
Think you mean the baneblade.

>>51728419
Huh?

Sorry, I wasn't exactly reading everything, I was just pointing out what a "light tank" looks like in comparison to the Leman Russ.

>>51728389
Named after the magos Fred Ator who designed it. Like the Land's Raider, the name has been corrupted over time.

>>51728468
>Fred Ator

Surely you mean Chief Arbiter Christopher Hansenius.

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>>51724611

>>51728468
I would like to have met the guy the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT was named after.

https://trackofwords.wordpress.com/2017/02/11/black-library-there-and-back-again-with-laurie-goulding/

Interesting interview with our old favorite, Laurie Goulding. It sounds like GW really mismanaged BL for a little while, but then it got better in time for all of last year's releases. Which means if you didn't like 2016's novels you're still free to dislike LG and BL. But if you did like them, this puts 2015 into context.

>>51728452
I think he was joking. There was some silly piece of very old fluff, back when no one though we'd actually look at the Horus Heresy in any depth, saying that Baneblades were once considered light tanks.

>>51728852
iirc leman russ by stc category was an agricultural vehicle in that same bit of fluff.

>>51728852
Man, imagine what IMMENSUS scale tanks look like.

Rolled 9 (1d20)

Blood Fists
Or
Imperial Angels

>>51729116
>Blood Fists
They already exist.

>>51729116
>not doing Imperial Angelscars shattered legion with custodian allies

500 point SW list

>Legion Centurion
>Plain, 50 points

>Grey Slayers
>Shields, Huscarl with PW/MB, 165 points
>Grey Slayers
>Bolters, Huscarl with PW/MB, 155 points

>Boxnaught
>MM, 130 points

>>51729184
500 points games are so small that generally anything can be made to work.
Yours seems fluffy and somewhat comfy even.

>>51729184
You aren't really going to get any meaningful critique of a list so small that it's basically compulsory units. It's fine, not much more to say. The SW like boxnoughts and hate contemptors so it's a good start.

>>51729035
I vaguely remember that, but I've never been able to find it again. I can believe it. If I were sending colonists off into space, I'd base their primary self-defense vehicle on a tractor too, and make it slab-sided for ease of production and material efficiency. If cost is no object you get Custodes-style vehicles. When cost is priority #1, you get Leman Russes.

>>51729184
A lot of people will want to play zone mortalis at that low points level, so might be worth sneaking some stuff that's extra effective (blasts/templates) in ZM games into the list, especially as everything you've taken is legal for ZM already. Even just a heavy flamer on the dreadnought (I'd save points by dropping half the combat shields) could make it a nastier proposition to face.

>>51729184
>trying to squeeze HH, especially SW in 500
Cute.
Right, first is that you're not going to need meltabombs with a MM boxnaught at 500 points, so replace them with a power weapon for your dude.

>>51727897
source?

>>51729286
again iirc it was an Index Astartes type article about tanks or stc or something. round 02 01 maybe

>>51729272
>>51729286
I build small lists when I am bored, my LGS either has pick up games at less than 1,000 or planned games at 2500+
>>51729349
>>51729362
I think I can do both and still have a good list.

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Excuse the shitty phoneposting but will people notice that my Dreadclaw is built wrong?

I didn't realise that it has a stubby little chode engine rather than the big, girthy turbine it was supposed to and it's stuck on too firmly for me to pull it off and correct it.

>>51729432
>night lords
Found the problem.

>>51729432
Putting in the freezer will make it easier to break.

I personally can't tell but I've never seen a resin drop pod variant in the flesh.

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>>51729116
IXth it is then, let us show the angels' mercy to the traitors!

>>51729135
I'm lost between all the apocrypha.
>>51729178
>not defending Terra with everything at your disposal

>>51729286
>but I've never been able to find it again.
It never existed, it's people misremembering the Siegfried light tank and the Land Crawler to the point of becoming a meme. Like that genie movie starring Sinbad.

>>51729565
I like the bloodletter in the bottom left that can't even look upon papa sang's glorious radiance.

>>51729565
>I'm lost between all the apocrypha.
It's just a reference to the Crimson Fists.

>>51729565

This remains, by far, my most favorite piece of Sanguinus art.

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>>51729661
He thinks that if he doesn't look at papa sang he won't be righteously slaughtered in the name of the Emperor.

He is so very wrong.
>>51729565
>mfw people don't immediately fortify terra upon hearing that the future of man is in trouble

>>51729717
They should really make his model look like that.
If not in 30k, then when he gets revived inevitably in 40k.

>>51729771
I expect resurrected 40k Sanguinius to become full on emo vampire.